"mongoloid"? <insert emoticon of one raised eyebrow here> What does that word mean *to you* and what historical texts have you read that used it please?
"Latin" reforms? Yet in some of your earlier rants they were described as "greek". On what do you base calling them Latin please?
And just for the record, the way that Nikon acted was harsh and (in this person's opinion wrong), but I don't see much difference in how you are declaring that there is Only One Right Way(tm).
Do you actually belong to a parish? Participate in weekly services with others?
Which EO churches? citations please? And is it the praxis that is considered right? In what way was *belief* in the basic doctines different as opposed to *praxis*?
I was unaware till just now about all these other posts over here. It will take me a while but I will work on giving good answers to all the questions. I have a life other than responding to these posts so it may take me a while. The word mongoloid, at that place, is related to the more important word that immediatly follows it, muslims. Most dictionaries suggest that a secondary meaning of the word is offensive towards Down syndrome, I do not mean to use the word in that secondary meaning. Any study of the downfall of Constantinople (something I suggest you do) will inform you that muslims, the mongol hordes, won Constantinople. One text that I recall talking about these facts was written by Ware. This is my meaning. I work to control those raised eyebrows, something I am sure you cannot understand at this point. About the Greek/Latin reforms, of the Eastern Orthodox Churches it was the Greeks who first succumbed to Latin ideas. So I have used both Greek and Latin somewhat interchangably. I will work on making this point more clear, thank you. Some of the Latin heretical ideas which overcame the Greeks were things like the God the Father icons, Augustinianism, the form of the hand in gestures like the personal sign of the cross or clerical blessings, etc., etc., etc. All of those particular points I just mention began from the influence which the Latins imparted to the Greeks during the time when the Crusaders sacked Constantinople. If a person carefully considers the facts these things are undeniable. I a sure that you do not understand the events in this way right now, but hopefully you will learn about them. As far as the one way idea goes, I simply want to obey God and not men, I believe that Christ taught about there being just one way. I know that this post of yours was first given to fatman, but speaking for myself I can say that as a person at an introductory level to the strict Old Believers that I do not personally recognize there being any right believing bishops left on earth at this present time. So there are no consecrated parishes on earth at this time either. I do have a small chapel here where I do what might be understood as something like reader services on a daily basis. I am only a beginner remember. There are no other Old Believers in San Diego that I know of but I have worshipped with others at every opportunity, never neglecting such things. I have been fortunate to have a friend from Russia who is decended from a line of Old Believers who often visits me and I visit him. We call each other "brat" which means brother. I also talk as regularly as possible with Old Believers from around the world and seek the personal advise from elder more respected Old Believers, often over 90 years old. From the start of the Nikon Greek/Latin reforms which caused the Russian Schism the Greeks never were against the Old Believers, to the contrary, they did not want to participate in the robber council of 1666. Other EO churches which have concluded that Old Belief is correct are the Russians theselves, which effectively overturns the council of 1666 anyway. If I have the facts right, off the top of my head, the Russian church did this around 1979. ROCOR also did the same around the same time. As far as in what way was *belief* in the basic doctines different as opposed to *praxis* I can tell you that many of those points have already been given, such as the sign of the cross, shortening of worship, acceptance of Latin sprinkle baptism for converts, etc., etc., etc. I am not sure how to keep up with all the posts here, but I will do what I can. Please do not think that am avoiding questions. I do care, or I would not be here.