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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2016, 07:34:23 AM »
English?
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2016, 09:45:53 AM »
Indeed, if you could providd at least an English summary of what is occurring that might be helpful.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2016, 10:14:59 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2016, 10:43:03 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2016, 10:45:10 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

No I mean on American online forums, if something in another language, it should be translated into English. Your a complete (removed - Mor)
(removed - Mor), hope you don't cry too much the next four years.

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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2016, 11:01:41 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

That is a distinct possibility.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2016, 11:04:03 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

No I mean on American online forums, if something in another language, it should be translated into English.

Online communities are by definition international, and linked external sources don't fall under OC.net's rule of mandatory translation. If the OP had offered one, however, everyone would have benefited.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2016, 11:26:20 AM »
In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

...Your a complete (removed - Mor)...

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2016, 11:29:27 AM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

No I mean on American online forums, if something in another language, it should be translated into English. Your a complete (removed - Mor) (removed - Mor), hope you don't cry too much the next four years.

Calm down.

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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 11:32:37 AM »
We should have plowed salt through Germany in 1945. Germany is a blight on civilisation and the world. Never should that black ship have been allowed to set sail again.

I'd be willing to spare the Bavarians, though. Delightful chaps they are.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 11:44:40 AM »
Indeed, if you could providd at least an English summary of what is occurring that might be helpful.

I'll try. (I don't know if the international press has made it a topic meanwhile, but when the largest German newspaper - read by ca. 30 Million daily - reports, I thought it could be interesting for the audience here).

An "ecumenical" delegation of RC and Proestant bishops and churchleaders with their heads, Cardinal Marx and Bedford-Strohm made a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in Mid October this year. While they werde visiting the Al-Aksa Mosque they removed their pectoral crosses due to respect to the Muslims.

When they were critisized afterwards Bedford-Strohm explained that they didn't were it at the Lamentation wall (correct?) either and were asked this by Israeli security officials.

This turned out to be not according to the facts.

BTW The pectoral cross of the RC official bishop's and cardinals's dress is an integral part.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 11:51:56 AM »
We should have plowed salt through Germany in 1945. Germany is a blight on civilisation and the world. Never should that black ship have been allowed to set sail again.

I'd be willing to spare the Bavarians, though. Delightful chaps they are.

Somehow offending.

The truth is, it is a spiritual desert, but the two broad christian denominations/organisations are extremly wealthy.the religious leaders bureaucrats, spending their time most likely with politics.

*4.842 Billion EURO tax revenue for the Protestant and 5.460 Billion EURO for the RCC in 2013. This has even increased in the last years though declining in members (real estate etc. not included).
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2016, 12:02:34 PM »
English please, hopefully English will be mandatory the next four years.

In Germany? They probably speak better English than you do.

No I mean on American online forums, if something in another language, it should be translated into English. Your a complete (removed - Mor) (removed - Mor), hope you don't cry too much the next four years.

Do I need a green card for my next post?  8)

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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2016, 12:09:31 PM »
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2016, 05:25:20 PM »
The topic in its roots is polemical, and it is visible in the posts above, so I am unlocking it and moving it to the Religious Topics section. However, please, keep being far from political digressions.
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Re: Top-Representatives of German Churches kowtowing to Islam
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 05:37:12 PM »
For those wondering what is going on, the gist of the articles is that the top two clerics from Germany, Heinrich Bedford-Strohm and Cardinal Marx, Lutheran and Catholic, respectively, put their pectoral crosses away whilst visiting the Dome of the Rock.
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