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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #450 on: April 20, 2015, 06:31:04 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #451 on: April 20, 2015, 09:29:59 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #452 on: April 20, 2015, 09:51:31 PM »
The 29 minute video went into this diatribe about the various Christian groups, and how they treat Christians according to Islamic law, whether by jizya under dimma status, by conversion for full rights, or death.  They showed examples of the jizya paying Christians in Iraq (probably staged) on how "peaceful" they live in ISIS when paying jizya.  They then showed examples of those who apostatized into Islam, and they were Africans, who vowed the shahada.  Finally, they showed the brutal killing of the 30 Ethiopians who refused to pay jizya (or probably did not have the money to pay it) or convert. 

They were given a chance to convert and they did not take that chance.  They chose the eternal glory with Christ over the falsehood of renouncing Christ and the Church.  May their prayers and the prayers of the 21 Coptic martyrs be with us all! 
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #453 on: April 20, 2015, 09:56:06 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #454 on: April 21, 2015, 09:21:17 AM »
The 29 minute video went into this diatribe about the various Christian groups, and how they treat Christians according to Islamic law, whether by jizya under dimma status, by conversion for full rights, or death.  They showed examples of the jizya paying Christians in Iraq (probably staged) on how "peaceful" they live in ISIS when paying jizya.  They then showed examples of those who apostatized into Islam, and they were Africans, who vowed the shahada.  Finally, they showed the brutal killing of the 30 Ethiopians who refused to pay jizya (or probably did not have the money to pay it) or convert. 

They were given a chance to convert and they did not take that chance.  They chose the eternal glory with Christ over the falsehood of renouncing Christ and the Church.  May their prayers and the prayers of the 21 Coptic martyrs be with us all!

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #455 on: May 06, 2015, 12:34:19 AM »
Further incidents of persecution:

http://www.aina.org/news/20150505151308.htm

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #456 on: May 08, 2015, 01:02:16 AM »
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In Egypt, a surge of persecution against Coptic Christians, one of the oldest Christian communities in the region, has been occuring despite Egypt's president's promises of helping Christians in the region.

http://www.aina.org/news/20150507143335.htm

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #457 on: May 09, 2015, 08:51:07 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/05/09/egyptian-youth-face-trial-for-insulting-islam-by-making-fun-isis/

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Four Egyptian kids who dared make fun of ISIS in a harmless video are headed for trial along with their teacher on charges of "insulting Islam," after their Muslim neighbors got hold of the footage and went to police.

Aged between 15 and 16, the youths could face up to five years in a youth detention center – while the teacher would serve any sentence he receives in prison – if the court finds them guilty of violating Egypt’s blasphemy law, Egypt-focused activists say.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #458 on: May 10, 2015, 08:34:12 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #459 on: May 10, 2015, 08:51:24 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #460 on: May 15, 2015, 01:06:36 AM »
More about the church dedicated to the 21 New Martyrs:

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"They [the Muslim side] stipulated that the building be of one floor, and without a dome or a cross, in addition to not sounding the church bell," Naguib Gabriel, chairman of the Egyptian Union for Human Rights, told Al-Monitor, lamenting the furor that surrounded building the church. Gabriel added that although the foundation stone was laid, "I do not believe the building will be completed under such a hard-line religious culture."

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/05/egypt-christians-muslims-churches-law-reconciliation-session.html#ixzz3aBGkZESY

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #461 on: May 19, 2015, 10:36:08 PM »
http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/2015/05/egypt-after-ransom-paid-coptic-christian-still-killed/

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Egypt: After Ransom Paid – Coptic Christian Still Killed

A 55-year-old Coptic Christian man was kidnapped and held for ransom.  Although his family eventually paid, and the Muslim abductors took the money, they still killed the hapless Copt.

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Killing Christian hostages even after loved ones pay their ransom is not uncommon in Egypt.  Such was the case, for instance, of 6-year-old Cyril Joseph: on May 2013, it was reported that his “family is in tatters after paying 30,000 pounds to the abductor, who still killed the innocent child and threw his body in his sewer system, where the body, swollen and moldy, was exhumed.”


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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #462 on: May 19, 2015, 11:08:41 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #463 on: June 01, 2015, 07:20:35 PM »
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A village in Beni Suef has witnessed religious conflict over the past week, following the alleged insulting of Islam by a Coptic man on Facebook, allegations denied by the accused.

Ayman Youssef Tawfiq, from the village of Kafr Darwish in Al-Fashn, around 100km south of Cairo, was accused of posting cartoons that are offensive to the Prophet Mohamed online. In what followed, Coptic homes in the village were allegedly attacked with rocks and Molotov cocktails, leading to numerous fires in houses and the destruction of a car.

After days of conflict, meetings were held in the village, but the outcome was the forcible displacement of Youssef and four of his relatives' families. Despite the meeting, a further 10 homes were reported by Coptic sources as having been burned in ongoing attacks.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #464 on: July 10, 2015, 06:32:40 PM »
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After the foiled suicide attack on the ancient temples of Karnak in Luxor, Egypt—a tourist designation—the Islamic State promised a “fiery summer” to the Christian Copts and Sisi government. 

http://www.copticsolidarity.org/cs-releases/3791-islamic-state-in-egypt-a-fiery-summer-awaits-worshippers-of-the-cross

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #465 on: July 10, 2015, 06:34:01 PM »
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A bomb was placed by a Coptic Christian church in Egypt, but security was able to dismantle it before it exploded earlier today.
 

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #466 on: July 10, 2015, 06:34:49 PM »
http://www.copticsolidarity.org/events

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #467 on: July 10, 2015, 07:22:10 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #468 on: July 10, 2015, 07:33:18 PM »
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #469 on: July 10, 2015, 08:27:07 PM »
Through the prayers of the Evangelist Mark and Popes Peter, Athanasius and Cyril, Lord have mercy upon the land of His refuge!
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #470 on: July 10, 2015, 09:56:23 PM »
Lord have mercy! Is al-sisi in charge or not I thought he was going to stop Coptic persecution!

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #471 on: July 10, 2015, 10:16:32 PM »
http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/2015/05/egypt-after-ransom-paid-coptic-christian-still-killed/

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Egypt: After Ransom Paid – Coptic Christian Still Killed

A 55-year-old Coptic Christian man was kidnapped and held for ransom.  Although his family eventually paid, and the Muslim abductors took the money, they still killed the hapless Copt.

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Killing Christian hostages even after loved ones pay their ransom is not uncommon in Egypt.  Such was the case, for instance, of 6-year-old Cyril Joseph: on May 2013, it was reported that his “family is in tatters after paying 30,000 pounds to the abductor, who still killed the innocent child and threw his body in his sewer system, where the body, swollen and moldy, was exhumed.”


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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #472 on: July 10, 2015, 10:21:13 PM »
Lord hvlave mercy im still getting a glitch anyways what I wasgoing to say what happened to Egypt muslim population in the past the Ikwan and the Salafis were minorties and up until 1970's the Sinai population was Sufis from what I herd. Today it seem all salafi and Ikwan regardless ST. Mary the Theotokos, ST. MARK and ST. Cyrill intercede and pray on thexCopts behalf.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #473 on: July 27, 2015, 06:23:49 PM »
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Christians Under Pressure: From Bigotry At School to Imprisonment and Murder
By Jared Malsin, Saba Imtiaz, Tom Phillips, Peter Beaumont
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Posted 2015-07-27 18:55 GMT

As a boy growing up in a country where football is a national passion, Mina Fayek joined a youth programme at a local sports club in the wealthy Cairo neighbourhood of Heliopolis. He started training, but one day he overheard his coach make an offhand remark: no Christians would join the first team, or make it to the championships.

"My parents and I knew this is not going anywhere, and I had to choose another game," Fayek, 26, a software engineer and blogger, recalled. He tried handball and basketball, two sports seen as more acceptable for Egyptian Christians to play.

Fayek, an affable young man, believes his social status shielded him from the worst forms of persecution inflicted on poorer Egyptian Christians. Instead, he was subject to a more subtle form of discrimination: the sense that the highest echelons of power and status in his country were off limits because of his religion.

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http://www.aina.org/news/20150727145519.htm

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #474 on: July 27, 2015, 06:32:32 PM »
so Salpy it looks like it more of the attitude of suppression instead of outright persecution right now in Egypt. Do you think al-sisi doing enough? or is his hands tied? any websites you recommend concerning the plight of Egypt's Copts?

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #475 on: July 27, 2015, 07:08:29 PM »
There's still plenty of persecution:

A mob surrounding a Coptic home because of an allegation that people were worshiping there:

http://www.copticsolidarity.org/cs-releases/3797-incensed-muslims-surround-christian-home-accused-of-being-turned-into-church


I don't know whether al Sisi is doing enough.  That would be for our Coptic brothers to comment on.

Good websites to keep track of persecution of Christians would be aina.org and copticsolidarity.org.


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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #476 on: July 27, 2015, 07:20:25 PM »
Another good website for Orthodox News generally is http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #477 on: August 31, 2015, 08:35:23 PM »
Mariam Malak, a Coptic girl, gets a 0% on her final exams:

http://www.copts-united.com/English/Details.php?I=1448&A=19991
http://www.copts-united.com/English/Details.php?I=1453&A=20082
http://www.copts-united.com/English/Details.php?I=1456&A=20141

Despite these reports, the Education minister reneged on his words, adamant to ruin the poor girl's life on a clerical error.  Just now I heard someone even say that the exam has written on it "In the name of God the beneficent and merciful" proving foul play against the girl.  Even a person who hasn't studied does not get a zero.  HG Bishop Suriel of Melbourne in protest wrote on his Facebook page that he would take care of Mariam's education in Australia.
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #478 on: September 01, 2015, 09:42:00 PM »
Al Ahram reports that an independent investigation will be opened:

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/139466/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-to-form-independent-committee-to-investigate.aspx

Egyptian Actor Mohamed Sobhy has supported Mariam Malak and finds it disheartening that she is accused of lying.  He has vowed to pay for her education, even if outside Egypt:

https://stepfeed.com/more-categories/big-news/egyptian-actor-pledges-pay-education-zero-secondary-student/#.VeZSQdNViko

MCNDirect.com also has a lot of articles on this issue.
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #479 on: September 09, 2015, 04:08:29 PM »
BBC has an blog article on the situation:

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34151528
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #481 on: November 02, 2015, 03:01:42 AM »
Arabic teacher whips 10 year old Coptic boy 40 times for not being quiet during Arabic class!

http://www.copticsolidarity.org/cs-releases/4175-arabic-teacher-savagely-whips-coptic-boy-40-times

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #482 on: November 02, 2015, 09:17:42 PM »
Arabic teacher whips 10 year old Coptic boy 40 times for not being quiet during Arabic class!

http://www.copticsolidarity.org/cs-releases/4175-arabic-teacher-savagely-whips-coptic-boy-40-times
Perhaps it's sectarian, perhaps not. Corporal punishment is an integral part of the Egyptian school system.
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #483 on: November 03, 2015, 10:42:27 AM »
Maybe once the takifiri insuregency in the Sinai dies down that the Copts demand a limited autonomy within the Sinai but still part of Egypt. Maybe then the persecutions will stop for the Copts. Reading about all your persecution upsets me a lot however we have to love our enemies which is tough. Copts are good role models on loving the enemy from my limited expirence with them.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #484 on: November 03, 2015, 05:20:42 PM »
Maybe once the takifiri insuregency in the Sinai dies down that the Copts demand a limited autonomy within the Sinai but still part of Egypt. Maybe then the persecutions will stop for the Copts. Reading about all your persecution upsets me a lot however we have to love our enemies which is tough. Copts are good role models on loving the enemy from my limited expirence with them.
Forgive me, but that idea is unfeasible. The overwhelming majority of Copts (99+%) wouldn't even want something like that.
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #485 on: November 04, 2015, 06:50:22 AM »
Maybe once the takifiri insuregency in the Sinai dies down that the Copts demand a limited autonomy within the Sinai but still part of Egypt. Maybe then the persecutions will stop for the Copts. Reading about all your persecution upsets me a lot however we have to love our enemies which is tough. Copts are good role models on loving the enemy from my limited expirence with them.
Forgive me, but that idea is unfeasible. The overwhelming majority of Copts (99+%) wouldn't even want something like that.

Okay it just seems living next to muslims for the past 1,000+ years isn't working.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #486 on: November 04, 2015, 05:42:19 PM »
It may not be working but neither will asking Copts to uproot themselves from homes, jobs, communities, etc. en masse to move into a desert ghetto.
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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #487 on: November 05, 2015, 10:06:04 AM »
It may not be working but neither will asking Copts to uproot themselves from homes, jobs, communities, etc. en masse to move into a desert ghetto.

that a excellent point Iconodule. I guess praying for them and even those that persecute them is the only solution.

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #488 on: November 25, 2015, 02:02:53 AM »
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Marwa Ahmed, 26, has reportedly been killed by her family after converting to Christianity and marrying a man from Fayoum, Egypt.

According to al-Tahrir, Marwa had moved to Alexandria from the town of Tamiyyah with her Coptic Christian partner three years ago. Since then, she had given birth to a boy and girl.

Eshhad, an online platform that aggregates and collates alleged religious persecution and sectarian attacks in Egypt, reports that Marwa was killed nearly two weeks ago by her uncle and cousins when they learned of her short visit back to Tamiyyah.

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http://www.aina.org/news/20151123021214.htm

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Re: Persecution of Copts in Egypt
« Reply #489 on: November 25, 2015, 02:09:49 AM »
I looked up the website mentioned above:

http://eshhad.timep.org/

Does anyone know anything about them?  They have an interesting (and distressing) map on their website.