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Offline Bono Vox

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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2007, 10:40:31 PM »
Folks,

As wonderful as the police and dick dale are, they are not U2 and do not posses the magic of U2.   ;)

With that being said, I do think that Coldplay are the next U2. Can I get an Amen?!
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2007, 10:56:40 PM »
Folks,

As wonderful as the police and dick dale are, they are not U2 and do not posses the magic of U2.   ;)

With that being said, I do think that Coldplay are the next U2. Can I get an Amen?!

Can't go there with you, brother!

Here is my assessment.
U2 took on the mantle of the Beatles
Springsteen took on the mantle of the Stones
the Police took on the mantle of Zepplin
and Hendrix - well no one revolutionized guitar playing like he did

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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2007, 04:22:32 PM »
DM is good for sure.  U2 was OK, they got better after Eno.  Eno is the BASF of music: he does not make the music that most of us listen to (unless you are me), he makes the music we listen to better (U2, Talking Heads, DEVO, Bowie's Low and Heros, Roxy Music).

Guitar?  Robert Fripp.  Sorry, Edge is not worthy to hold a used G string from the Fripp guitar (if it was even tuned to G, you never know with Fripp).

Lyrics?  Bowie and Cat Stevens are my favorites.

And there is always a place in my heart for Gary Numan.  Are "Friends" electric?  Maybe . . .
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2007, 09:17:01 PM »
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DM is good for sure

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U2 was OK, they got better after Eno.  Eno is the BASF of music: he does not make the music that most of us listen to (unless you are me), he makes the music we listen to better (U2, Talking Heads, DEVO, Bowie's Low and Heros, Roxy Music).

Agreed

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Guitar?  Robert Fripp.  Sorry, Edge is not worthy to hold a used G string from the Fripp guitar (if it was even tuned to G, you never know with Fripp).

BLASPHEMY! You should be burned at the steak as a heretic!  :D
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2007, 11:15:50 PM »
BLASPHEMY! You should be burned at the steak as a heretic!  :D
And what would you use for the firewood?  Old guitars?
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2007, 11:46:06 PM »

Here is my assessment.
U2 took on the mantle of the Beatles
Springsteen took on the mantle of the Stones
the Police took on the mantle of Zepplin
and Hendrix - well no one revolutionized guitar playing like he did
The U2 of 20 yrs ago sounded more like their idols- the clash. The U2 of today? Well a good analogy is wine- better with age. BUT the mantle of the Beatles? Methinks not.
Never, repeat, never have liked Springsteen's stuff. I do love the Stones. Can you tell where I'm going with this one?  ;)
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2007, 11:48:57 PM »

Lyrics?  Bowie
Which manifestation? The Thin White Duke? Ziggy Stardust?

and Cat Stevens are my favorites.
You mean Yusuf Islam. He hates that old moniker.
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #97 on: August 29, 2007, 08:04:06 AM »
Which manifestation? The Thin White Duke? Ziggy Stardust?
You mean Yusuf Islam. He hates that old moniker.

I like most of Bowie except for the stuff he was putting out in the late '80s and early '90s.  My absolute favorites are the "Berlin Trillogy" of Low, Heros, and Lodger.  I perhaps like Station to Station a bit more than Lodger.  Scary Monsters was probably the last of his great albums in my opinion.  My wife, on the other hand, prefers some of the ones that came after.

I know that Cat Stevens does not like his old moniker, but I liked his music much better when he was searching for the Way than when he thought he found it.

Brian Eno is perhaps my favorite of all musicians.  Funny thing is, he is not a musician (by his own admission).  Perhaps that is why I have enjoyed most of his work, including the ambient experiments.  It is amazing what one can do when nobody has taught him that it cannot be done!  I am glad that he and Brian Ferry made up in recent years since I believe that Ferry is one of the best of the modern vocalists.  I can't think of anyone's lyrics that he cannot make sound better.  Not to mention that he is a pretty good songwriter himself.
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #98 on: August 29, 2007, 08:07:24 AM »

BLASPHEMY! You should be burned at the steak as a heretic!  :D

Well, upon reflection, I should qualify that.  At the time that I wrote my statement I was thinking of skill and innovation.  Now, which would I rather listen to?  That nod would have to go to The Edge probably nine times out of ten (unless Fripp is playing for Bowie or Eno).
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #99 on: August 29, 2007, 09:40:12 AM »
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Well, upon reflection, I should qualify that.  At the time that I wrote my statement I was thinking of skill and innovation.  Now, which would I rather listen to?  That nod would have to go to The Edge probably nine times out of ten (unless Fripp is playing for Bowie or Eno).

You are forgiven, now go in peace.  ;)
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2007, 08:17:22 PM »
The U2 of 20 yrs ago sounded more like their idols- the clash. The U2 of today? Well a good analogy is wine- better with age. BUT the mantle of the Beatles? Methinks not.
Never, repeat, never have liked Springsteen's stuff. I do love the Stones. Can you tell where I'm going with this one?  ;)
Well, by their own admission, U2 idolized the Ramones. They certainly were influenced by many punk bands on both continents, though.

Agreed on Springsteen, not with the Stones. Never have cared for anyone who wanted to be "the answer to the Beatles." Sir Paul's lance, methinks, doth cut mightily upon meeting thy flesh, humble peasant Mick.
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #101 on: August 31, 2007, 11:25:57 PM »
The U2 of 20 yrs ago sounded more like their idols- the clash. The U2 of today? Well a good analogy is wine- better with age. BUT the mantle of the Beatles? Methinks not.
Never, repeat, never have liked Springsteen's stuff. I do love the Stones. Can you tell where I'm going with this one?  ;)

I am not talking about how they sound, but their place in the music pantheon.
The Beatles had this expansive body of music and so does U2
The Stones are the blue collar party rock & roll band and so is Springsteen
Zeplin was the epitome of the rock trio of the 70's/the Police was that for the 80's
Stevie Ray approached Hendrix but no one has really done what Jimi did: maybe by committee - SRV, Eddie Van Halen, Prince, but even then, not quite

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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #102 on: September 01, 2007, 11:56:22 AM »
Zeplin was the epitome of the rock trio of the 70's
so which member of Zep do you eliminate to make them a trio?
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2007, 08:15:10 PM »
^ Since John Bonham died, I guess they are now....
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #104 on: September 01, 2007, 10:20:18 PM »
so which member of Zep do you eliminate to make them a trio?
I am thinking of the instrumentation, Zep had a vocalist plus guit/bass/drums
Police combined vocalist with the bass player - But Sting's ego might be so big that he counts for two people! ;)
instrumentally, both rock trios
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Re: For all you U2 fans
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2007, 10:14:18 AM »
^ Since John Bonham died, I guess they are now....

I don't know.  When Led Zeppelin was inducted into the Rock n' Roll Hall of Shame...I mean, Fame..., John Paul Jones said a few words "thanking" both Robert Plant and Jimmy Page for remembering to invite him.  Apparently he had been "disinvited".  So maybe Plant and Page considered only John Bonham the third member.

That's really a shame, too since JPJ was and is the most musically talented of the four of them.  He was not only versatile in the number of instruments he played but he also arranged most of the songs into the forms heard on the albums, though he was never given much, if any, song writing credits.  He's also a pivotal figure in the history of bass players.  I'd rank him up there along with Jack Bruce, Geddy Lee, Cliff Burton, Steve Harris and Geezer Butler.  Just MHO.
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