Topic: Armenian lessons?

[Salpy]

The fourth lesson is up.  How is everyone doing?

[Salpy]

There's a link for an online Classical Armenian dictionary.  Cool.   

[ialmisry]

There's a link for an online Classical Armenian dictionary.  Cool.   

I have to refresh my memory, but I remember that someone (the Mekhetarists?) put out a dictionary in Grabar, Ecclesiastical Greek and Latin.  I wonder if it is online.

[vasnTearn]

There's a link for an online Classical Armenian dictionary.  Cool.   

I have to refresh my memory, but I remember that someone (the Mekhetarists?) put out a dictionary in Grabar, Ecclesiastical Greek and Latin.  I wonder if it is online.

The dictionary you are searching (Nor Bar'girk' haykazean lezui, 2 volumes, Venice, 1836-37) is digitized and put online but the access is by subscription. The link of the dictionary is this -
http://www.sd-editions.com/AnaServer?lalt+0+start.anv+id=Norbarg

The dictionary is in Armenian and there are examples from medieval texts for almost all words. But it doesn't provide with the Greek and Latin equivalents of all words, only some.

[ialmisry]

Is there any site with Armenian handwriting?

[vasnTearn]

Is there any site with Armenian handwriting?

http://hayeren.hayastan.com/english/abr.html

On the page the link of which I've given you'll see the alphabet. Click on any of the letters, it will open and you'll see 4 buttons. The second and fourth buttons are for handwriting. To go back to the alphabet for the other letters, click on the word ԱՅԲՈՒԲԵՆ (you'll understand where to click yourself too).

[ialmisry]

A site with frequency lists for Mesrob's Grabar (Classical Armenian) Bible:
http://212.34.228.170/bible/index_w_f.htm
with a concordance.

[vasnTearn]

A site with frequency lists for Mesrob's Grabar (Classical Armenian) Bible:
http://212.34.228.170/bible/index_w_f.htm
with a concordance.

Thank you, ialmisry! This concordance is wonderful. It also includes the inflected forms of the words.

[vasnTearn]

There's a link for an online Classical Armenian dictionary.  Cool.   

I have to refresh my memory, but I remember that someone (the Mekhetarists?) put out a dictionary in Grabar, Ecclesiastical Greek and Latin.  I wonder if it is online.

Now that dictionary can be found online here:
http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=26&pageNumber=676&query=%D5%AE%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%B2

The Classical Armenian-English dictionary published in 1875 is here:
http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=16&pageNumber=1050&query=%D5%AE%D5%BA%D5%A5%D5%B2

[ialmisry]

Another good resource, R. Bedrosian's page at UT at Austin:
http://rbedrosian.com/grabar.html
It also has a searchable text for the Zohrab Bible etc.

[DeniseDenise]

I have a question.


How difficult is it for someone who has say a semester of college level Modern Western Armenian (a bit rusty but i got an A in it) to swap over to the classical?

[Salpy]

The alphabet is the same, and there is some overlap in vocabulary between Classical and Modern Armenian, but the grammar is very different.  Classical Armenian grammar is pretty complex, and is more difficult than Modern Western Armenian.  Still, if you want to study Classical Armenian, go for it.     It's quite beautiful.

[Salpy]

There are some online lessons here:

http://vasntearn.blogspot.com/2010/07/classical-armenian.html

[raffisx]

Salpy Jan

Great initiative my friend , loving the thread and the blog .

blessings
Raffi

[xOrthodox4Christx]

If you are familiar with Assimil, you can purchase Armenian lessons books.

Also, I like this site: http://www.lexilogos.com/english/

[KostaC]

Which modern are you interested in--Eastern or Western?

I'm trying to seek an internship in Istanbul, and if I can at least learn a few phrases to converse with the Armenians of the City just for the heck of it, I'd be thrilled. Could I place my vote for Western, then?

That would be what the Armenians of Istanbul speak, right? Isn't Western based off the spoken dialect of the Politan Armenians?

[Brigidsboy]

Which modern are you interested in--Eastern or Western?

I'm trying to seek an internship in Istanbul, and if I can at least learn a few phrases to converse with the Armenians of the City just for the heck of it, I'd be thrilled. Could I place my vote for Western, then?

That would be what the Armenians of Istanbul speak, right? Isn't Western based off the spoken dialect of the Politan Armenians?

Yes, you are correct. Western Armenian dialect originated in the dialect spoken in Constantinople.
Here is a list of useful phrases in both Eastern and Western Armenian. Start with this and let me know if you would like more.

http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/armenian.php

[CopticDeacon]

Its a little late but I want to hop in. Where are the other lessons for classical Armenian? Only lesson 9 is available.

[ialmisry]

A site with frequency lists for Mesrob's Grabar (Classical Armenian) Bible:
http://212.34.228.170/bible/index_w_f.htm
with a concordance.

Thank you, ialmisry! This concordance is wonderful. It also includes the inflected forms of the words.

to update the link
http://212.34.228.170/bible_28E/index.htm

[RaphaCam]

Նեվեր գոննա գիվե յոու ուպ, նեվեր գոննա լետ յոու դովն, նեվեր գոննա րուն արոունդ անդ դեսերտ յոու. Նեվեր գոննա մակե յոու կրյ, նեվեր գոննա սայ գոոդբյե, նեվեր գոննա տելլ ա լիե անդ հուրտ յոու.

[juliogb]

Նեվեր գոննա գիվե յոու ուպ, նեվեր գոննա լետ յոու դովն, նեվեր գոննա րուն արոունդ անդ դեսերտ յոու. Նեվեր գոննա մակե յոու կրյ, նեվեր գոննա սայ գոոդբյե, նեվեր գոննա տելլ ա լիե անդ հուրտ յոու.

Is that a song or something? Armenian looks harder than georgian to me, at least its alphabet.

[DeniseDenise]

Just make flash cards to memorize the letters. Before you even try to figure out words.

One side the letter, the other the name and the 'sound'


It's what I did for both Cyrillic and Armenian script. And I got an A in my year of Armenian classes so it must have worked. 

[ialmisry]

A site with frequency lists for Mesrob's Grabar (Classical Armenian) Bible:
http://212.34.228.170/bible/index_w_f.htm
with a concordance.

Thank you, ialmisry! This concordance is wonderful. It also includes the inflected forms of the words.

to update the link
http://212.34.228.170/bible_28E/index.htm

To update the link
http://www.arak29.am/bible_28E/index.htm