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Offline nonchal

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tall monastic hats
« on: April 29, 2007, 10:55:09 PM »
(I guess this is a "liturgical" issue. Don't know where else to post it.)

When did Eastern Orthodox monks start wearing those tall monastic hats? What is the point? Which jurisdictions do not wear them? I know some don't because I have seen some EO monks with more normal looking hats that fit around the skull. Thanks.

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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 11:04:03 PM »
When did you guys start wearing those pointy hats? lol ;)
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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 05:19:42 PM »
"So, George, what is it that draws you to the Faith?"

"I'd have to say the hats."
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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 07:53:32 PM »
Which hat do you mean? The kamilavka - the tall cylindrical kind? No idea - but Malankara Syriac clergy wear them as well. If you mean 'skufia', they are simply cut and sewn in a cross across the top - different nations have different customs.
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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 09:56:29 PM »
"So, George, what is it that draws you to the Faith?"

"I'd have to say the hats."

I was just thinking of that Seinfeld episode.  The writers were obviously clueless about Orthodoxy (like the "conversion ceremony"--haven't they heard of baptism?) but it was hilarious.  I would say the Latvians should be insulted, except that Seinfeld made fun of everybody, including his own ethnic group.

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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 11:34:28 PM »
The kamilavka was introduced during the Ottoman reign.  The scufia and cowl are both more ancient as attested to by their use by the Old Rite which does not use the kamilavka.
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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2007, 12:36:21 PM »
Is there really a "Latvian Orthodox Church"? :D

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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2007, 05:56:04 PM »
Sometimes a hat is just a hat maybe and the style depends on the culture, climate, materials and technology available.  Then sometimes, as time passes a style becomes a custom or it goes along with people when they move to a different situation. Just a thought.

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Re: tall monastic hats
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 12:45:36 AM »
Is there really a "Latvian Orthodox Church"? :D

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Evidently there is. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Orthodox_Church

According to this article, the writer of the episode thought he was making up a fictitious religion.  Then he got all these letters from the Latvians thanking him for bringing attention to the Church.