What languages do we speak on OC.net?

[Athanasios]

Hello,

As far as Romance languages go, Italian and Spanish are very similar in vocabulary and Italian and French are very similar in grammar. That is what my high school Italian teacher told us.

[ozgeorge]

I am also proficient in binary, hex, ASCII, and UNICODE, C/C++, shell scripting languages, etc.. (yup, computer geek here)

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[Athanasios]

Hello,

01010111 01100101 00100111 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01101110 01100100 01100101 01110010 01100101 01100100 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 01110101 01101101 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100101 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001100 01101001 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100111 01111001 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01110010 01100001 01101110 01110011 01101100 01100001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00101110 00100000 01010111 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101111 01110101 01100111 01101000 01110100 00100000 01110111 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 00100010 01000111 01100101 01100101 01101011 00100000 01001111 01110010 01110100 01101000 01101111 01100100 01101111 01111000 01111001 00100010 00101110 00100110 00100011 00110110 00110101 00110101 00110011 00110011 00111011

There are 10 types of people in this world - those who know binary and those who don't.

That sounds like an interesting plan. Maybe we can hook it up to a synthesizer and see if heavenly music comes out. 

I myself prefer to deal straight with hex, as I find more than 4 octets of binary sheer drudgery.

[stanley123]

You could have included spanish in the Romance language category and you left out a big one, Latin...which though is the basis for Romance languages, is not actually counted amongst them.

In addition to Latin, I didn't see listed: Chinese, Vietnamese and Hebrew also.
BTW, for R Catholics, it's not like it was before Vatican II, when RC priests had to study Latin for several years.

[Simayan]

English, Spanish, French, Latin, Gaelic (courtesy of my grandmother), and some Greek.

[Galina-Volga]

I speak very simple    Russian and English.

[MoreThan1Hat]

Besides English, I can read French, German, Italian, Spanish, ecclesiastical Latin and Turkish (enough to read a simple newspaper article or order in a restaurant without getting served something really weird).  I'm getting better at reading transliterated Church Slavonic.

[Michał Kalina]

Podlachian (you can describe it as a mixture of Ukrainian and Belarusian with minor other elements (Polish and Russian)), Belarusian and Polish - native or hardly native
English - I hope I speak it quite well
Ukrainian and Russian - well to understand speech, not very hard to read, can't say anything
I also studied German but I can say not much except from Ich bin nicht vorbereitet.

and Church Slavonic a bit

[Agia Marina]

Newbie weighing in here:  I speak, read, and write English, Portuguese, Spanish (not as fluently as I would like), and I understand a good deal of ecclesiastical Latin thanks to the RCC and parochial schools. 

[HandmaidenofGod]

Welcome to the forum EVOO!

I speak English, French, and a teeny, tiny bit of Ukrainian.

[Catherine]

Hello, EVOO!

I speak Gaelic, Welsh, English, French, German, Danish and a little Russian.

[GregoryLA]

English natively, Japanese fluently (but not perfectly), Spanish decently, Swedish basically and several others barely.

[Irish Hermit]

Hello, EVOO!

I speak Gaelic, Welsh, English, French, German, Danish and a little Russian.

You speak Gaelic?  Irish or Scottish?  I am totally envious.  Irish is my patrimony but I find it too hard to learn it on my own.  I went to the Irish club and not a soul there speaks it!!  I knew that they wouldn't be able to help when the bar tender told me the most popular whisky at the club was Black Douglas!   

Otherwise, I can speak Russian, Serbian, and Latin (if that counts as a spoken language - years ago I did use it in Milan to persuade a priest to allow myself and a brother monk to touch and venerate the relics of Saint Ambrose.)

[Clancy Boy]

English, Japanese and Chinese fluently, learning Greek and Dutch.

[Clancy Boy]

Hello, EVOO!

I speak Gaelic, Welsh, English, French, German, Danish and a little Russian.

You speak Gaelic?  Irish or Scottish?  I am totally envious.  Irish is my patrimony but I find it too hard to learn it on my own.  I went to the Irish club and not a soul there speaks it!!  I knew that they wouldn't be able to help when the bar tender told me the most popular whisky at the club was Black Douglas!   

The Rosetta Stone software is very decent, and there are several online radio programs broadcast entirely in Gaelic.

I just ran across these, maybe they can be useful to you.

An Chré

Creidim in aon Dia amháin.
An tAthair uilechumhachtach
a rinne neamh agus talamh
agus an uile ní sofheicthe agus dofheicthe
agus in aon Tiarna amháin,
Íosa Críost, Aon-Mhac Dé,
an té a rugadh ón Athair
sula raibh aon saol ann,
Dia ó Dhia, solas ó sholas
fíorDhia ó fhíorDhia;
an té a gineadh agus nach ndearnadh,
agus atá d'aon substaint leis an Athair;
is tríd a rinneadh an uile ní.
Ar ár son-na an cine daonna,
agus ar son ár slánaithe,
thuirling sé ó neamh.
Ionchollaíodh le cumhacht an Spioraid Naoimh é
i mbroinn na Maighdine Muire
agus ghlac sé nádúr daonna.
Céasadh ar an gcrois é freisin ar ár son;
d'fhulaing sé páis faoi Phontius Píoláit
agus adhlacadh é.
D'aiséirigh an treas lá
de réir na scrioptúr;
chuaigh suas ar neamh;
tá ina shuí ar dheis an Athar.
Tiocfaidh sé an athuair faoi ghlóir
le breithiúnas a thabhairt
ar bheo agus ar mhairbh,
agus ní bheidh deireadh lena ríocht.
Creidim sa Spiorad Naomh,
Tiarna agus bronntóir na beatha,
an té a ghluaiseann ón Athair agus ón Mac.
Tugtar dó adhradh agus glóir
mar aon leis an Athair agus leis an Mac;
is é a labhair trí na fáithe.
Creidim san aon Eaglais
naofa, chaitliceach, aspalda.
Adhmhaim an t-aon bhaisteadh amháin
chun maithiúnas na bpeacaí.
Agus táim ag súil le haiséirí na marbh
agus le beatha an tsaoil atá le teacht.
Amen.


Urnaigh an Tighearna:

Ar n-Athair a tha air nèamh, gu naomhaichear d'ainm.
Thigeadh do rìochachd. Dèanar do thoil air an talamh, mar a nìthear air nèamh.
Tabhair dhuinn an-diugh ar n-aran làitheil. Agus maith dhuinn ar fiachan, amhail a mhaitheas sinne dar luchd-fiach.
Agus na leig ann am buaireadh sinn; ach saor sinn o olc;
oir is leatsa an rìoghachd, agus an cumhachd, agus a' ghlòir, gu sìorraidh.
Amen.

[Irish Hermit]

Hello, EVOO!

I speak Gaelic, Welsh, English, French, German, Danish and a little Russian.

You speak Gaelic?  Irish or Scottish?  I am totally envious.  Irish is my patrimony but I find it too hard to learn it on my own.  I went to the Irish club and not a soul there speaks it!!  I knew that they wouldn't be able to help when the bar tender told me the most popular whisky at the club was Black Douglas!   

The Rosetta Stone software is very decent, and there are several online radio programs broadcast entirely in Gaelic.

I just ran across these, maybe they can be useful to you.

Thanks, Clancy Boy, but it is not really the reading or writing which kills me.  It is the pronunciation.   And I've found that a lot of it is so subtle, at least to my ear, that radio programmes aren't enough.  I need a teacher who will go over and over it with me.  :-)

[Νεκτάριος]

English, Japanese and Chinese fluently, learning Greek and Dutch.

Can you recommend any good course books for Chinese that are easily available in China?  This is an uphill battle for me!   

[ytterbiumanalyst]

Welcome, EVOO! You must be a Rachel Ray fan.

[Agia Marina]

Welcome, EVOO! You must be a Rachel Ray fan.

Hello there, and thank you.  I'm not a Rachel fan.  She's too brusque for me.  But, I knew the "evoo" was gonna make people wonder.    "EVOO" stands for Eastern V. Oriental Orthodoxy.  I'm still looking into both of them.  Maybe I better start a thread about my questions.

[Catherine]

I knew that they wouldn't be able to help when the bar tender told me the most popular whisky at the club was Black Douglas! 

 

Hello, EVOO!

I speak Gaelic, Welsh, English, French, German, Danish and a little Russian.

You speak Gaelic?  Irish or Scottish? 

I speak Irish Gaelic. Gaelic words are pronounced very differently from how they are spelled, and so the Irish Gaelic language can be quite difficult to learn (Irish Gaelic focuses on a lot of lenition (aspiration) and eclipses (nasalization), which changes the sounds of various words, of course - see the link). There are a number of resources on the internet, actually. A quick google search of "learn Irish Gaelic" yielded this website:

http://www.hocanimation.com/IrishPronGuide.pdf (It is a pronunciation guide.)


Having said that, I suggest lots of Irish audio lessons, lots of patience and a native speaker. Feel free to ask me any questions. I shall be more than happy to help you. Irish Gaelic is a beautiful language and it is worth the effort.

Slán agus beannacht leat... 

[Agia Marina]

Thank you all for the warm welcome. 

[Myrrh23]

I'm learning Chinese this semester at college. Beautiful language!!

[ytterbiumanalyst]

Welcome, EVOO! You must be a Rachel Ray fan.

Hello there, and thank you.  I'm not a Rachel fan.  She's too brusque for me.  But, I knew the "evoo" was gonna make people wonder.    "EVOO" stands for Eastern V. Oriental Orthodoxy.  I'm still looking into both of them.  Maybe I better start a thread about my questions.

I see. Where there's an acronym, there are usually several ways to interpret it.

[EofK]

I'm learning Chinese this semester at college. Beautiful language!!

Yay!  I always wanted to learn Chinese.  It is beautiful and very subtle.

[GabrieltheCelt]

Does Hillbilly count?   

[Νεκτάριος]

I'm learning Chinese this semester at college. Beautiful language!!

Yay!  I always wanted to learn Chinese.  It is beautiful and very subtle.

Subtle?  Are we talking about the same Chinese here?  I find it to be very brusque and strait forward relative to most European languages.  And the beauty starts to wear off when every conversation you attempt begins with someone staring and saying laowai.  That being said, I like the language, even if it is an uphill battle to learn it.       

[Liz]

I like this thread!

I only really speak English, but I have studied French and Italian, Latin and Greek, Old English and Old Norse, and a very little German. I love languages! I'm trying to learn Russian atm for my Russian fiance, but I am finding it harder than anything else I've tried so far (except maybe the Norse). 

I'm also trying to brush up my Latin for uni in a few weeks - eek!

What I want to know is, what language would you all love to be able to speak/read? For me (other than the Russian I'm struggling with!) it would have to be Hebrew. What about you?

[Michał Kalina]

Spanish, Greek and Arabic. I can't decide which one I would like to read most.

[GabrieltheCelt]

... what language would you all love to be able to speak/read?

I can speak just a little Arabic and Romanian, but I wish I were more proficient with them.  Another language I'd absolutely love to learn is Irish Gaelic as I'm saving up for my trip to the ancestral homeland in Donegal, Republic of Ireland.

[GregoryLA]

I like this thread!

I only really speak English, but I have studied French and Italian, Latin and Greek, Old English and Old Norse, and a very little German. I love languages! I'm trying to learn Russian atm for my Russian fiance, but I am finding it harder than anything else I've tried so far (except maybe the Norse). 

I'm also trying to brush up my Latin for uni in a few weeks - eek!

What I want to know is, what language would you all love to be able to speak/read? For me (other than the Russian I'm struggling with!) it would have to be Hebrew. What about you?

I took Old Norse in uni.  I hardly remember anything though except that "maelti" means he said (i think) and "vid erum vikingir stekir och fraegir" means "we're strong and famous vikings"!

Also, there are a ton of langauges I'd love to learn.  Especially though Georgian and Greek.

[Agia Marina]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

[Liz]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

[Heorhij]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

Liz, here, where I live (a small college town in Mississippi, USA), I know a woman from Brazil (of course a native Portuguese speaker) who married a man from Puerto Rico (of course a native Spanish speaker). She says that it took them some time to adjust to each other when they were dating, so that they even had to use some English to clarify their points. But now, when it's been a good number of years and they have two kids, they understand each other very well when each of them speaks his/her own language. 

[Agia Marina]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

Portuguese and Spanish are very much alike.  Additionally, we have a language in common with Spain - Galician.  Written Galician is nearly identical to written Portuguese.  It is still spoken in the northernmost regions Portugal and in northwest Spain.  However, it is much easier for Portuguese speakers to understand the Spanish language than the reverse.  Portuguese pronunciation is not as crisp and clean as Spanish, so it's sometimes difficult to understand by Spanish-speaking people.

[Agia Marina]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

Liz, here, where I live (a small college town in Mississippi, USA), I know a woman from Brazil (of course a native Portuguese speaker) who married a man from Puerto Rico (of course a native Spanish speaker). She says that it took them some time to adjust to each other when they were dating, so that they even had to use some English to clarify their points. But now, when it's been a good number of years and they have two kids, they understand each other very well when each of them speaks his/her own language. 

I have family and friends from Brazil.  There is a vast difference between Portuguese spoken in Portugal and Portuguese spoken in Brazil.  And, the Spanish spoken in Puerto Rico is significantly different from Spanish spoken in Spain or even Mexico.  Both are dialects of the mother tongue and use slang abundantly.  That slang has become part of the vernacular.  I can truly say, it is easier for me to understand Spanish than it is to understand Brazilian Portuguese.  And, unless my Puerto Rican friends slow down their Spanish and pronounce all the letters in their words (which they often don't), then all is lost. 

[rwprof]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

Portuguese and Spanish are very much alike.  Additionally, we have a language in common with Spain - Galician.  Written Galician is nearly identical to written Portuguese.  It is still spoken in the northernmost regions Portugal and in northwest Spain.  However, it is much easier for Portuguese speakers to understand the Spanish language than the reverse.  Portuguese pronunciation is not as crisp and clean as Spanish, so it's sometimes difficult to understand by Spanish-speaking people.

Which is certainly not to be confused (particularly on this forum) with the Eastern European Galicia.

[Agia Marina]

I'm another one that loves languages.  I'd like to learn Latin (more than the ecclesiastical Latin I learned in school) and Greek, for starters.  And, although I'm fluent in Portuguese and it is my first language, I'd like to perfect my vocabulary skills.

Can I ask you then, how alike are Portuguese and Spanish? I've never known if they're quite close or more distant, like French and Italian?

I've heard people speaking Portuguese and it sounded beautiful though 

Portuguese and Spanish are very much alike.  Additionally, we have a language in common with Spain - Galician.  Written Galician is nearly identical to written Portuguese.  It is still spoken in the northernmost regions Portugal and in northwest Spain.  However, it is much easier for Portuguese speakers to understand the Spanish language than the reverse.  Portuguese pronunciation is not as crisp and clean as Spanish, so it's sometimes difficult to understand by Spanish-speaking people.

Which is certainly not to be confused (particularly on this forum) with the Eastern European Galicia

Absolutely not!  We would never do that. 

[theotokos]

Türkçe or Turkish in English 

[Christianus]

I'm surprised that there are about the same amount of Spanish speakers here, as Greek speakers, maybe the orthodox faith is returning to Hispania,
and that there are more romance speakers here than Greek

[Fr. George]

I'm surprised that there are about the same amount of Spanish speakers here, as Greek speakers, maybe the orthodox faith is returning to Hispania,
and that there are more romance speakers here than Greek

I sincerely doubt that there are equal numbers of Spanish and Greek speakers here.

[HandmaidenofGod]

I'm surprised that there are about the same amount of Spanish speakers here, as Greek speakers, maybe the orthodox faith is returning to Hispania,
and that there are more romance speakers here than Greek

That probably has to do more with the foreign language requirement to graduate High School than it does a "return of Orthodoxy to Hispania." When the options are only Spanish or French, Spanish is usually more popular. Also, with the large influx of Latin American immigrants in the US, it's not surprising that many people have learned Spanish for work. Especially if they happen to live in Texas, Southern California, Miami, etc. (I am not saying that to put anyone down, just merely expressing that knowing Spanish has become a requirement for some.)

[Asteriktos]

That probably has to do more with the foreign language requirement to graduate High School than it does a "return of Orthodoxy to Hispania." When the options are only Spanish or French, Spanish is usually more popular. Also, with the large influx of Latin American immigrants in the US, it's not surprising that many people have learned Spanish for work. Especially if they happen to live in Texas, Southern California, Miami, etc. (I am not saying that to put anyone down, just merely expressing that knowing Spanish has become a requirement for some.)

Fwiw, my own experience mirrors what you're saying... sort of. I was in vo-tech in high school, so I wasn't required to take a foreign language. But if I had been required to take a foreign language, it would have been Spanish, and that's what many of my friends/family took as well (though my wife took French for whatever reason).

[ytterbiumanalyst]

I'm surprised that there are about the same amount of Spanish speakers here, as Greek speakers, maybe the orthodox faith is returning to Hispania,
and that there are more romance speakers here than Greek

Do you understand what a straw poll is?

[trifon]

I speak Polish (born in Poland), and English fluently.  I studied Serbian in university, but would hardly call myself anything other than 'intermediate' beginner.  Since I divide my time between Serbia and Bulgaria, I've gotten at least the basics of Bulgarian, but have a long way to go before I can call myself 'intermediate'

[Fr. George]

Fwiw, my own experience mirrors what you're saying... sort of. I was in vo-tech in high school, so I wasn't required to take a foreign language. But if I had been required to take a foreign language, it would have been Spanish, and that's what many of my friends/family took as well (though my wife took French for whatever reason).

In hindsight, I'm surprised that Spanish was being pushed nearly as hard 10+ years ago in H.S. as it is now.  The Spanish classes in Junior High and High School were easily the largest and had the largest recruiting movement; I happened to take the most unpopular choices at each level (French in Junior High, Latin in HS).

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