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What language(s) can you speak/write in (does not need to be fluent)?

English
192 (31.9%)
Greek
52 (8.7%)
A Slavic Language
52 (8.7%)
Romanian
11 (1.8%)
Spanish/Spanish Derivitive
57 (9.5%)
Romance (Italian, French, etc)
68 (11.3%)
German/Germanic
50 (8.3%)
Swahili/African
4 (0.7%)
Arabic
24 (4%)
Coptic
7 (1.2%)
Klingon/Binary/Other Artificial Language
20 (3.3%)
Not listed.  Boo!
64 (10.6%)

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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #225 on: May 17, 2018, 02:27:39 AM »
Huh. Interesting. I wonder if using it too much cuts down on your ability to recognize subtle ironies, though lol.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #226 on: May 17, 2018, 10:39:52 AM »
I speak Piglatin.  ::)

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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #227 on: May 19, 2018, 03:12:06 PM »
What do you think of this, Rapha?
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #228 on: May 19, 2018, 03:48:33 PM »
What do you think of this, Rapha?
Bad list. Vorstellung is so simple. Bref and on can be very easily translated, it just won't be an 100% dynamic translation. Hellhörig is very singular, but it doesn't hold a complex concept, so it can be paraphrased. Pan(i) is just classic T-V distinction, which is usually ignored in translating to English. It's funny to know, however, that tertulia (in Portuguese, tertúlia) is such an exclusive Iberian concept.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #229 on: May 19, 2018, 04:02:12 PM »
Yeah, I would just render Pan(i) as "sir/ma'am" or "m'lord/lady."

The confusion over Vorstellung makes me think of other German etymologies like "verstehen" or "es gibt" (I feel like Heidegger's Existentialism could only really have been concocted by a German speaker lol), but those aren't really translation issues per se.

Nunch'i would probably best be rendered as "reading the room" or "empathizing" or something.

A santiguadora sounds to me like the Medieval British idea of the Bedesman (with a bit of influence from generalized "witch woman" practices). But I guess that wouldn't be any clearer to the average reader.

What bothers me most about the article is that these words are from Man Booker nominees, but maybe they were just throwing something out there half-heartedly when they were busy doing a million other things at the same time. I don't know.



So what would be your picks for really hard to translate words?
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #230 on: May 19, 2018, 04:22:59 PM »
Yeah, I would just render Pan(i) as "sir/ma'am" or "m'lord/lady."
Sometimes it's just "you". T-V distinction is an interesting thing in Portuguese. Europeans and Africans have a very simply T-V distinction in singular ("tu"/"você"), but none in plural (only "você"), but some dialects in northern Portugal preserved it for plural ("vós"/"você"). Many Brazilian dialects loss "tu", and the ones that kept it, kept it as an extremely informal pronoun (not just a T pronoun, but below that). Therefore, as soon as formal Brazilian Portuguese started to deviate from formal European Portuguese as a standard, we snipped "tu" from formal language. Eventually we started needing a V pronoun for very formal situations and started using "o senhor/a senhora/os senhores/as senhoras". This sounds ridiculously formal outside Brazil, but now we have a singular and plural V pronoun, but with usage less restrict than V pronouns in most languages.

For that matter, many Brazilian dialects (including that of Rio) have a threeway distinction. We alternate between "tu" and "você" (or most usually the contraction "cê") among close family and friends (or when we want to be really rude), we use "você" (with less frequency for "cê") consistently with people we don't know, and "o/a(s) senhor(e/a)(s)" for bosses, elders, politicians, judges, etc.

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The confusion over Vorstellung makes me think of other German etymologies like "verstehen" or "es gibt" (I feel like Heidegger's Existentialism could only really have been concocted by a German speaker lol), but those aren't really translation issues per se.
Yeah, Heidegger is particularly crafty for that matter.

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A santiguadora sounds to me like the Medieval British idea of the Bedesman (with a bit of influence from generalized "witch woman" practices). But I guess that wouldn't be any clearer to the average reader.
I would translate it to Portuguese as benzedeira, which is a similar office. They're still pretty strong in some regions, and Roman Catholic hierarchy often not only tolerates, but enforces their job. They're more like mystic healers than witches, though, some being pious Roman Catholics. My ex, who was born in the outskirts of a 3k-people town, was delivered by a benzedeira.

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So what would be your picks for really hard to translate words?
"Saudade" is often described as an extremely difficult concept to convey outside Portuguese language, but its overall meaning can usually be conveyed by "missing/longing/nostalgia". I like "cafuné", which means fondling the top of the head. "Endomingado" isn't such a common word, but I like how it may mean either "dressed up as for Sunday mass" or "depressed because it's Sunday".

From the top of my head, I recall tingo, a Rapa Nui verb meaning borrowing stuff until nothing is left. There's a book about untranslatable word with this title. There's some African language with a word for someone who always forgives two faults, but never three, and also a word in some Eskimo-Aleut language meaning constantly looking at the door to see if there are any guests. But I can't recall either.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #231 on: May 19, 2018, 06:37:05 PM »
I speak Piglatin.  ::)
Ichwhay ialectday orfay ordsway atthay artstay ithway owelsvay?
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #232 on: July 23, 2018, 09:51:27 AM »
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« Reply #233 on: July 23, 2018, 09:55:56 AM »
Starting my journey into learning Spanish!
Buena suerte ("good luck").

It's quite easy language.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #234 on: July 23, 2018, 12:51:05 PM »
Starting my journey into learning Spanish!
Llámame si quieras charlar, amo practicar mi español. Call me if you want to chat, I love practicing my Spanish.

I find the language extremely easy too, but since it's just bastardised Portuguese, it's easier for us.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #235 on: July 23, 2018, 02:30:11 PM »
Starting my journey into learning Spanish!
Buena suerte ("good luck").

It's quite easy language.

I found it easy as well, but I already had several years of French and Latin before then, so hardly a typical case.
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« Reply #236 on: July 23, 2018, 02:34:57 PM »
Ye Olde English
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« Reply #237 on: July 23, 2018, 02:51:38 PM »
I can offer Bavarian, a German dialect which can be so strong as to be unintelligible by standard German speakers. Unfortunately, most of the youth no longer can speak it properly.
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« Reply #238 on: July 23, 2018, 03:00:07 PM »
Starting my journey into learning Spanish!
Llámame si quieras charlar, amo practicar mi español. Call me if you want to chat, I love practicing my Spanish.

I find the language extremely easy too, but since it's just bastardised Portuguese, it's easier for us.

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« Reply #239 on: July 23, 2018, 03:07:00 PM »
I can offer Bavarian, a German dialect which can be so strong as to be unintelligible by standard German speakers. Unfortunately, most of the youth no longer can speak it properly.
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I love Austro-Bavarian, it's my favourite German dialect! Very sad to hear from you that it has disappeared among youth.  :( Are you aware if it's the same situation on Austria or the Bavarian countryside...? I'm even sadder by the loss of Low German, which is so unique and has such a long tradition.

I can only offer fake Bavarian, like barely pronouncing "b/d/g", or putting a lot of "a" on words.
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« Reply #240 on: July 23, 2018, 03:11:21 PM »


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So what would be your picks for really hard to translate words?
"Saudade" is often described as an extremely difficult concept to convey outside Portuguese language, but its overall meaning can usually be conveyed by "missing/longing/nostalgia". I like "cafuné", which means fondling the top of the head. "Endomingado" isn't such a common word, but I like how it may mean either "dressed up as for Sunday mass" or "depressed because it's Sunday".



I think Saudade can also be easily translated as wistful.....'having or showing a feeling of vague or regretful longing'


for me a better 'untranslatable' thing is dar um jeito.....which has way more subtleties than the dictionary allows for....
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #241 on: July 23, 2018, 03:27:12 PM »
I can offer Bavarian, a German dialect which can be so strong as to be unintelligible by standard German speakers. Unfortunately, most of the youth no longer can speak it properly.
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I love Austro-Bavarian, it's my favourite German dialect! Very sad to hear from you that it has disappeared among youth.  :( Are you aware if it's the same situation on Austria or the Bavarian countryside...? I'm even sadder by the loss of Low German, which is so unique and has such a long tradition.

I can only offer fake Bavarian, like barely pronouncing "b/d/g", or putting a lot of "a" on words.
It is somewhat better in Austria and rural Bavaria, still very much in decline.
I can speak it really well, I think, but when I talk to my grandfather, I realize how much I have been influenced by English and standard German.
I'd love to hear you speak fake Bavarian :D
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #242 on: July 23, 2018, 03:58:07 PM »
for me a better 'untranslatable' thing is dar um jeito.....which has way more subtleties than the dictionary allows for....
Never thought about that, but indeed.

I'd love to hear you speak fake Bavarian :D
Wia keat's, freind? (how are you, friend? in fake Bavarian)
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« Reply #243 on: July 23, 2018, 04:01:45 PM »
Ye Olde English

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« Reply #244 on: July 23, 2018, 04:22:52 PM »
for me a better 'untranslatable' thing is dar um jeito.....which has way more subtleties than the dictionary allows for....
Never thought about that, but indeed.

I'd love to hear you speak fake Bavarian :D
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #245 on: March 14, 2019, 03:03:29 PM »
Is there any good reason to learn an auxlang and/or interlang? I was thinking about Toki Pona since it's so quick to pick up, but it feels like it's still wasted effort that I could put towards learning a natural language.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #246 on: March 14, 2019, 03:24:14 PM »
Is there any good reason to learn an auxlang and/or interlang? I was thinking about Toki Pona since it's so quick to pick up, but it feels like it's still wasted effort that I could put towards learning a natural language.
Toki Pona is nice to train your logical skills. I imagine the same can be said of Lojban or Ithkuil for very different reasons. Esperanto, however, is nowadays just a display of ultimate geekiness, although it had such strong political connotations decades ago.
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« Reply #247 on: March 14, 2019, 03:28:57 PM »
Yeah, that's what I was kind of thinking, myself.
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« Reply #248 on: March 14, 2019, 03:31:45 PM »
If I still had patience for useless languages (and by useless I mean those that don't give me access to new texts, media or people), I'd go for Ithkuil. Of course, as long as I wasn't too focused on Irish.  :laugh:
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« Reply #249 on: March 14, 2019, 03:58:35 PM »
Fun fact, not even Quijada is actually fluent in it.

As for Irish, there's plenty of old texts to read and Irish TV shows you could watch it in. I'd like to learn it too someday, for the sake of getting back to my roots.

I think the general "bucket list" order for me going forward is:

German (already middling skill, needs a lot of improvement)
Polish
Church Slavonic
Spanish
Latin
Ancient Greek
Irish
Amharic
Russian
Georgian
Arabic
Armenian
Japanese
Some Alaska Native language, I can't decide, maybe Tlingit.
Hawaiian

Wichita and Lashootseed also fascinate me as languages that almost completely lack labial sounds, but they're both super dead (I mean, so are Latin and Koine, but it's a bit different, isn't it?) I also don't know how well received a white boy trying to learn Native languages would be in general.
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« Reply #250 on: March 14, 2019, 04:03:47 PM »
Wichita and Lashootseed also fascinate me as languages that almost completely lack labial sounds, but they're both super dead (I mean, so are Latin and Koine, but it's a bit different, isn't it?) I also don't know how well received a white boy trying to learn Native languages would be in general.

I know this is the "Tumblr fringe," but I also can't help but wonder how common this attitude is out there (good reply roasts, though) :-\

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« Reply #251 on: March 21, 2019, 06:38:24 PM »
Found in the youtube comments on a video about hard languages-

"Speaking polish is unhealthy for your tongue and teeth"

Serious? Joking? No idea lol!

Another comment- "Even Saying "I love you" in Polish feels Like Killing someone 😂"



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« Reply #252 on: March 21, 2019, 06:45:43 PM »
Another comment- "Even Saying "I love you" in Polish feels Like Killing someone 😂"
It's about German, not Polish.
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« Reply #253 on: March 21, 2019, 07:03:01 PM »
Maybe Ich liebst du is a stab and Kocham cię is an axe chop, lol?
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« Reply #254 on: March 21, 2019, 11:44:58 PM »
Native languages of Francophone Africa don't have clicks, but I'm sure this misses the point of the meme.  :P
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #255 on: March 22, 2019, 01:21:21 AM »
Native languages of Francophone Africa don't have clicks, but I'm sure this misses the point of the meme.  :P

Yeah, I hate it when somebody counters ignorance with ignorance (also, while Taa has 100+ clicks, none of them are all clicks). Beyond that, it was a good roast.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #256 on: March 23, 2019, 05:06:08 PM »
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Any Tanzanian fans of Return of the Jedi probably have a favorite character in Nien Nunb, the co-pilot of the Millennium Falcon that helps Lando Calrissian blow up the second Death Star, who spoke the language of the Haya people native to the east African country. It’s called Sullustese in the Star Wars universe.

Kipsang Rotich, the Kenyan actor who voiced Nunb in the movie, became a minor celebrity in his home country after his voice was heard in what was then the final movie of the Star Wars saga. Rotich was recently tracked down to potentially voice Nunb again in The Force Awakens. Expect to hear some more Haya language in Star Wars again very soon.

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I admit to being uneasy with wholesale borrowing, even as I find myself taking inspiration from the (Wikipedia articles on) grammars and phonologies of various real world languages for my novel's conlang, like Tolkien did. At least it was Rotich's choice and he was well-received for it back home, I guess. Better than just using Quechua as Huttese because it's allegedly obscure (which it's not) lol.

I'm honestly not sure how I'd feel if I was a speaker of a minority language (especially an endangered one) and I found out that someone in Hollywood was using it for aliens. :/
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #257 on: March 24, 2019, 10:21:40 AM »
Right now,

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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #258 on: March 24, 2019, 07:12:39 PM »
Right now,

I'm forming sentence structures in Mixed English.
English mixed with what?
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #260 on: April 05, 2019, 02:40:08 PM »
People who speak Latin, would you ever use a mnemonic like this lol? To me it seems far more complicated than what it's trying to teach lol.

No, it would make total mish-up in my head.
However, I don't speak Latin, just know some things about it, as I had to study it for 2 years during theological studies.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #261 on: April 05, 2019, 02:47:53 PM »
People who speak Latin, would you ever use a mnemonic like this lol? To me it seems far more complicated than what it's trying to teach lol.
No because the song doesn't include the roots so you could mix up stuff in the future, but otherwise yes.

BTW, that's a real problem in teaching dead languages. There was a lot of advancement in second language acquisition at least since Maximilian Berlitz, but people still teach Latin or Ancient Greek in a pretty... dead method.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #262 on: April 05, 2019, 03:14:41 PM »
People who speak Latin, would you ever use a mnemonic like this lol? To me it seems far more complicated than what it's trying to teach lol.
No because the song doesn't include the roots so you could mix up stuff in the future, but otherwise yes.

BTW, that's a real problem in teaching dead languages. There was a lot of advancement in second language acquisition at least since Maximilian Berlitz, but people still teach Latin or Ancient Greek in a pretty... dead method.

Indeed... Tables, tables and tables. Both for Latin and Koine in my experience. Plus some sentences from Bible or poetry.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #263 on: April 05, 2019, 04:24:45 PM »
Fun fact, not even Quijada is actually fluent in it.

As for Irish, there's plenty of old texts to read and Irish TV shows you could watch it in. I'd like to learn it too someday, for the sake of getting back to my roots.

I think the general "bucket list" order for me going forward is:

German (already middling skill, needs a lot of improvement)
Polish
Church Slavonic
Spanish
Latin
Ancient Greek
Irish
Amharic
Russian
Georgian
Arabic
Armenian
Japanese
Some Alaska Native language, I can't decide, maybe Tlingit.
Hawaiian

Wichita and Lashootseed also fascinate me as languages that almost completely lack labial sounds, but they're both super dead (I mean, so are Latin and Koine, but it's a bit different, isn't it?) I also don't know how well received a white boy trying to learn Native languages would be in general.
With the Biblical languages, learn them well enough to be dangerous on your own and then just use a lexicon.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #264 on: April 05, 2019, 04:25:54 PM »
In addition to contemporary American English, I also speak fluent Coonass and can communicate to people who speak Delta Mumble.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #265 on: April 05, 2019, 07:31:10 PM »
The only languages I still wish to learn are Mandarin Chinese, Modern Standard Arabic and Russian. There are many more I'd like to study, but I wouldn't really dedicate myself more than maybe browsing a grammar out of curiosity.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #266 on: April 06, 2019, 02:16:43 AM »
Modern

I perceive modern languages, typically formed in large cities were people from all over the world have an urgent need for basic communication in the local language causing it to simplify, omit the intellectual stuff that would be necessary for supporting a successful civilization. I understand that you wish to communicate with contemporaries, but I can't get myself to prefer modern over legacy.

Standard

Some people like unity a lot. I like dialects because they decentralise the thought process of society to the point where people become enpowered to make their own lives meaningful.

Arabic

I had joined the choir for a while in the local parish of socialist Svenska Kyrkan (the Swedish Church), and one evening after we had practiced, a lady in her 70:ies invited the four of us who were aged below 40 to a cup of coffee at her place. She had participated in the churche's programme to welcome, guide and teach immigrants and related that they had behaved "worse than the 'racists' had warned", with regard to sexual harassment.

We talked about many other things and as I found a dictionary in her library that I browsed through with interest, she asked about my language studies and what languages I would try to teach myself in the future. I responded that when I bought Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew-English lexicon and began to learn Hebrew and Syriac I promised myself that I would never have to study Arabic. It would be too much work, especially since Arabic is spoken in some twenty sovereign countries and therefor has a lot of synonyms and varieties. However, as more and more people around me spoke Arabic I could no longer afford to ignore it, so I would begin to teach myself some basics in a couple of weeks.

Her reaction surprised me a bit. She looked really sad and not triumphant or haughty as women usually are when lads mention their problems. I i r c, she had at least one son, and I thought I may have helped her understand his situation as well.

As we went home, I was glad that there was at least one woman among my acquaintances who was sympathetic towards my minorities. Unfortunately, this didn't last long. She made suicide next week.

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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #267 on: April 06, 2019, 02:26:39 AM »
Mandarin Chinese. Well, still learning it. Mandarin Chinese is pretty underrated considering it's the most spoken language in the world (albeit only in a few countries).
I also live in California, so I know some good Spanish. Being Orthodox I also know some Greek and Russian. Also some German because of my heritage. Also some French because of my future plans to travel to France. I hope to learn some liturgical Arabic later, being Antiochian and all  ;D
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #268 on: April 06, 2019, 02:36:46 AM »
I hope to learn some liturgical Arabic later, being Antiochian and all  ;D

Actually, there is no "liturgical" Arabic. It's just Arabic that's used for writing, official occassions and for basics in teaching foreirgners Arabic and its dialects.
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Re: What languages do we speak on OC.net?
« Reply #269 on: April 06, 2019, 02:52:20 AM »

Actually, there is no "liturgical" Arabic. It's just Arabic that's used for writing, official occassions and for basics in teaching foreirgners Arabic and its dialects.

I would say that liturgical Arabic is its own stylistic register that does sound somewhat quirky if you're not used to it. If you pay really close attention, you can occasionally catch Syriacisms in some hymns that were translated from Syriac originally-- using 'min' to express the agent of a passive, for example (in good Classical Arabic there's no way to express that, while in modern newspaper-language you say 'min qibal').
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