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« on: June 26, 2014, 02:19:40 AM »

"For if we have been united together in the likeness of His Death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His Resurrection,"-Romans 6:5.

I was taught that the Mystery of Baptism is not merely done "in the likeness" of Christ's Death and Resurrection but is truly a real, ontological participation in Christ's real Death and Resurrection.

The phrase "likeness" seems to suggest as the Protestants say that it's merely a symbol and not a true participation in these real events of Christ's life, which is why I assumed Baptism was considered a Mystery.

That being said, what exactly did St. Paul mean by the phrase "likeness" in the original Greek? What does it mean in the context of this passage, and is "likeness" an accurate translation or does the Greek word--which I believe is "homoiōmati" carry a different meaning?
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 02:42:00 AM »

homo means same.

Anyway, I think you are reading too much into a single passage.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 02:44:52 AM »

The root is ὁμός, "one and the same," but I'm sure you could find that yourself. It's a common enough word that a list of usages seems as long as your arm, but "in the likeness" strikes me as a perfectly good translation. It's interesting that the word is hardly found outside Romans.
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