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« on: February 01, 2007, 02:44:42 PM »

Adhinc, nemo in hoc  scribebam, puto quod primum loquar.  Haec est lingua romana prima.  Ergo,gramatica pessima mea  exruciabimini.  Latina est melia lingua istis linguis vulgaris
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 02:57:00 PM »

Fluenti leporique Ciceronis careo.  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 05:04:05 PM »

Augustinus dantxxy s.d.p.
Iam de latino foro adhuc ignorabam, sed nunc, invento hoc, gaudeo, colloquia multa de orthodoxa fide, necnon et de aliis rebus, habere sperans.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 06:54:53 PM »

Latina est melia lingua istis linguis vulgaris
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Dantxny,

Scamandrius tibi salutem dat.

Non exsistit forma verbi "melia."  Forma comparativa adiectivi--bonus, -a, -um--est melior, melius quod  adiectivum declinationis tertiae finium terminorum duorum est.  Sic, melior est et masculus et feminina.

Quid forma linguae latinae utamur?  Ciceronisne aut medii aevi?

Avete atque valete, omnes!

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 07:10:54 PM »

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Te adhuc perperam intellegem.  Delecarabo quod de orthodoxia lucros habes latina utori et conloqui.  Puto quod membris fidei nostrae est iniustitia magna quod patris latinis antiquis non studemus.  Haec Iniquitas Amplificatione eruditionis sanetur. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 07:25:17 PM »

Scamandrie,
Gratias tibi ago.
Ciceronis discabam, sed christianam studeo nunc.  Latinam Ciceronis praefero.  Mea culpa sententiarum verbosarum in angla me impedit.  correctionibis tuis cum forma comparativa, gratias tibi.  Parum dormivi et signiter sum.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 10:15:09 PM »

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Quid forma linguae latinae utamur?  Ciceronisne aut medii aevi?
Eadem est lingua:ornatior Ciceronis, rusticior medii aevi. Utimini ambis.
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Puto quod membris fidei nostrae est iniustitia magna quod patris latinis antiquis non studemus.
Sunt orthodoxi latinis patribus studentes eosque amantes.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 10:24:49 AM »

Eadem est lingua:ornatior Ciceronis, rusticior medii aevi. Utimini ambis.Sunt orthodoxi latinis patribus studentes eosque amantes.


Ita vero!  Sed, qui Latinorum patrium disparatissimi aut neglectissimi sunt? Puto magnos scribentes hymnorum, sicut Coelium Sedulium, Prudentium et alios, qui tam pulchrtiduinem ecclesiae in illis verbis dederint. 

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2007, 01:06:28 PM »

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Ita vero!  Sed, qui Latinorum patrium disparatissimi aut neglectissimi sunt? Puto magnos scribentes hymnorum, sicut Coelium Sedulium, Prudentium et alios, qui tam pulchrtiduinem ecclesiae in illis verbis dederint.
In schola partem hymnorum sancti Ambrosii, Prudentii  Venantii Fortunatique legere debui;hi etsi multum placuerunt mihi,  omnium Latinorum Christianorum scriptorum tamen, sanctum Romae papam Leonem maxime amavi pro brevitate copiaque sermonum ejus atque elegantia dispositionis verborum.
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P.S.  Dantxny, alia grammatica res.  Forma vocativi "Scamandrius" est Scamandri.  Verba, quae finem habent -us, format -e et, quae finem habent -ius,  -i.  Tamen, ego sum multo mirabilis  tua humanitate et cultu!

Hanc scio.  Putavit quod nomenem tuum  cum Scamandrus non Scamandriusfacit.  Cum meas litteras conficitus sum; - tum, nomenem verum  recognovi.  Gratias tibi ago, quamvis.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2007, 09:51:15 PM »

Danihel ,
Vates non sum, sed apparet  a Scamandrio  grammatico peritissimo te iterum admonitum iri errorum grammaticorum in hac tua praecedenti epistula praesentium. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2007, 11:13:05 PM »

Danihel ,
Vates non sum, sed apparet  a Scamandrio  grammatico peritissimo te iterum admonitum iri errorum grammaticorum in hac tua praecedenti epistula praesentium. Wink

Augustine,
Sis dextrus, IVR. Smiley  (In Voce Rideo).
Iove!  Atque maiorus classicus sum.  Mihi, Latina est lingua cum legibus  rumpenda. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2007, 02:38:36 AM »

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Puto magnos scribentes hymnorum,
Neglecti sunt quod poemata eorum Latine scripta, in Orientalis Ecclesiae liturgia locum suum invenire non potuerunt.  Nam alium hymnum Occidentali auctore compositum, in Ecclesiae Orthodoxae  usu , nisi illum "Te Deum"  tum Sancto Ambrosio Mediolani episcopo, tum Sancti Nicetas Remesianae episcopo adscriptum, nescio.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2007, 05:26:09 PM »

Scamandrio  grammatico peritissimo
Eheu!  Utinam verum sit!  Gratias ago.

Dantxny Augustineque, sumusne soli tres in hoc colloquio?  Opus est nobis plures!

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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2007, 02:27:03 AM »

Scamandri,
Tres scribentes, plures legentes, ut puto.
At Deus solus legentium numerum novit.
Cura ut valeas.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2007, 08:16:13 PM »

Dantxy, Augustine,

Hocne legistis?  O deus, miserere nobis!  Si linguam Latinam clarissimus ecclesiae Romanae Catholicae pro lingua Latina dux non amat, quae spes est nobis? Embarrassed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/28/wlatin28.xml

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2007, 11:03:48 PM »

 Augustinus Scamandrio s.d.p.
Vero, haec illustrissima lingua Romanorum moritura est.
At quid alteri expectemus? Haec est generatio, cuius cultus atque humanitas in illa civitatum pessima, Hollywood vocata, finguntur.
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2007, 10:22:44 AM »

  Haec est generatio, cuius cultus atque humanitas in illa civitatum pessima, Hollywood vocata, finguntur.

Scamandrius Augustino salutem dat,

Secundum verba Catonis Censori, "Hollywood delenda est!"  Grin  Protraditine, tamen, sunt a magistris linguae Latinae et ecclesia?  Vero, Hollywood causa est multo, sed culpemus illos qui officium defendendi illustriam linguam habent.  Possumusne creare patriarchum Latinae ritae pro Orthodoxis?

Ave atque vale,

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Possumusne creare patriarchum Latinae ritae pro Orthodoxis?
Hoc difficillime esse puto quod sedem super illam apostolicam veteris Romae patriarchus iamiam sedet quamvis non Orthodoxus.
Melius est pro redintegratione Occidentalis Ecclesiae orare.
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2007, 11:15:34 AM »

"Gavisi sunt discipuli, viso Domino", nobis Evangelista enarrat.
Idem eorum gaudium, hoc paschale tempore necnon et omnibus diebus nostris nobiscum maneat et post praesentem exilium aeternae Christi Paschae coheredes fieri mereamur.
Christus resurrexit!
Vere resurrexit!
Die tertia Paschae, AD.MMVII.
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"Gavisi sunt discipuli, viso Domino", nobis Evangelista enarrat.
Idem eorum gaudium, hoc paschale tempore necnon et omnibus diebus nostris nobiscum maneat et post praesentem exilium aeternae Christi Paschae coheredes fieri mereamur.
Christus resurrexit!
Vere resurrexit!
Die tertia Paschae, AD.MMVII.

Sanctum Pascha tibi et tuae familiae, Augustine!  Mihi fortunatum erat legere illam partem evangeli de Sancto Johanne Vesperes de Agape. 
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Gratias tibi ago, Scamandri pro votis sinceris tuis.
"Vitam ferentem, pulchrius vere Paradiso, aula regia splendidius, sepulchrum Christe monstrasti tuum, fontem quoque resurrectionis nostrae."
Troparion Horarum Sanctae Paschae quod Latine de Vallachice verti.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2007, 12:19:42 AM »

Ubi omnes discipuli linguae Latinae erant?   Venite!  Iterum hoc incipiamus!
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2007, 08:14:24 PM »

Ego ecce hic sum! Thema colloquii propone.
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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2007, 09:06:01 PM »

Aut magis quam "hic sum". "adsum" scribere debuissem.
Ignoscite mihi fratres atque litterarum cultores.
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2007, 12:10:31 AM »

Aut magis quam "hic sum". "adsum" scribere debuissem.
Ignoscite mihi fratres atque litterarum cultores.

Per Hercle!  Pessimus discipulus latinae linguae es quem vidi!  Ita in cruce!   Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2007, 02:37:14 AM »

Quid loquamur?
Pauca de vita mea scribere velim:
Illam magnam civitatem quae Mediooccidentalibus regionibus Americae caput est  incolo, sed eius nomen palam dicere nolo.
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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2007, 12:59:15 AM »

Semper ubi sub ubi!

Err...mea culpa!  Grin
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Ecclesia Orthodoxa Vallachica hodie patriarcham novum elegit.
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2007, 06:50:13 PM »

Ecclesia Orthodoxa Vallachica hodie patriarcham novum elegit.

Verumne?  Quis electus est?
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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2007, 07:24:53 PM »

Danielem, metropolitum Moldaviae et Bukovinae elegerunt.
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2007, 11:30:56 PM »

Sanctus Trinitias Danielem benedicat!

Bonus vir Dei est?
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Hoc spero, sed vero, cordium secreta Deus solus novit.
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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2007, 04:55:05 PM »

Audivi Danielem conspiravisse cum securitate tempore communisto.  Tamen, nulla probatio id probare existet.
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Varia dicta sunt, sed verum Deus solus novit.
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Varia dicta sunt, sed verum Deus solus novit.

Verum.  Tamen, ego sum incertus multo quod "ecumenistus" valde habetur.  Ecclesiae Orthodoxiae tantos episocopos non opus est.  Fidem nostram conservemus!  Ne id reducemus dicendo cum hostibus fidei nostrae! 
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"Nativitas Christe, Deus noster, tua,  lucem scientiae mundo revelavit; quod hac stellarum cultores stella docti sunt te Solem Iustitiae adorare et te ex alto Orientem novisse; gloria tibi, Domine."
Cultoribus atque  Latinae linguae amantibus felicem Nativitatis festum exopto, necnon et letum  novum annum.
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"Nativitas Christe, Deus noster, tua,  lucem scientiae mundo revelavit; quod hac stellarum cultores stella docti sunt te Solem Iustitiae adorare et te ex alto Orientem novisse; gloria tibi, Domine."
Cultoribus atque  Latinae linguae amantibus felicem Nativitatis festum exopto, necnon et letum  novum annum.


Tibi eundem exopto, Augustine!
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2008, 02:23:40 PM »

Tribus miraculis ornatum
diem sanctum colimus:
hodie stella magos duxit ad praesepium,
hodie vinum ex aqua factum est ad nuptias,
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Haec est dies illa, quam fecit Dominus;
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« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2008, 12:04:06 AM »

Quis illum hymnum scripsit?  Non illum cognosco!
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« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2008, 02:25:47 AM »

Auctorem nescio, sed Latini ritus est hymnus. Ego autem pulcherrimum eum inveni et spiritiu eodem cum hymnis nostrae Orientalis Ecclesiae.
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Auctorem nescio, sed Latini ritus est hymnus. Ego autem pulcherrimum eum inveni et spiritiu eodem cum hymnis nostrae Orientalis Ecclesiae.

Ecclesiae Occidentalis hymnorum scriptores non habentur pares esse cum scriptoribus orientalibius.  Sanctus Ambrosius aut Coelius Sedulius aut Fortunatus sunt maximi et optimi scriptores hymnorum in occidentale sicut sanctus Cosmas aut Sanctus Johannes Damascenus sunt in orientale. Ut possim canere plures hymnos occidentales in orientale ritu exopto.
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2009, 02:54:47 PM »

Jejunuium Nativitatis mane oritur et huius anni cursus ad finem  accedit.
Tam rapidum tempus, ut cum Horatio velim clamare:

"Eheu fugaces, Postume, Postume,   
  labuntur anni nec pietas moram   
rugis et instanti senectae   
  adferet indomitaeque morti;"
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2009, 06:18:26 PM »

Horatium Flaccum, vatem optimum maximumque, multo diligo.

Utinam sicut ille scibere possim (in lingua Anglica!)
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2009, 03:55:17 AM »

Confiteor: etiamsi Latinas litteras  didici, poemata sive versos classicorum vatum (Latinorum atque Graecorum) minus amo quam haec novissimorum poetarum, singulariter Gallice scribentium. 
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I am embarassed. As a Catholic I should be this comfortable with Latin.  Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2009, 03:21:44 PM »

^Ego te absolvo!   Grin
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2009, 01:38:04 PM »

"Hodie Dei bonae voluntatis praefiguratio et hominum salutis predicatio in Dei ecclesia, clare, Virgo ostendiur, et Chrisum praenuntiat omnibus . Magna voce ei clamemus: ave, Creatoris dispensationis peractio."
Modulus "apolytikon" in festo Sanctissimae Deiparae ingressus in ecclesiam.

Σήμερον τῆς εὐδοκίας Θεοῦ τὸ προοίμιον, καὶ τῆς τῶν ἀνθρώπων σωτηρίας ἡ προκήρυξις. Ἐν Ναῷ τοῦ Θεοῦ τρανῶς ἡ Παρθένος δείκνυται, καὶ τὸν Χριστὸν τοῖς πᾶσι προκαταγγέλλεται. Αὐτῇ καὶ ἡμεῖς μεγαλοφώνως βοήσωμεν· Χαῖρε τῆς οἰκονομίας τοῦ Κτίστου ἡ ἐκπλήρωσις.
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I am embarassed. As a Catholic I should be this comfortable with Latin.  Smiley
^Ego te absolvo!   Grin
quis vadum meus frater penitentia exsisto pro ignarus sanctus lingua?
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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2009, 06:30:38 AM »

"Per aspera ad astra"

the slogan on a pack of Pall-Mall's
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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2009, 01:24:50 PM »

Fregisti Cruce tua mortem, aperuisti latroni Paradisum lamentationem myrophorarum convertisti et Apostolis predicare iussisti, quia surexisti Christe, Deus noster, mundi donans magnam misericordiam.
Modulus "apolytikon" modus septimi, quem Latine vertit indignus peccatorque Augustinus.
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« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2009, 06:36:29 PM »

Memoriam sanctae Christi martyrae Caeciliae hodie fecimus, quae in multis locis apud varios populos, celestis protectrix varium artium, in primis musicae, honoratur.
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« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2009, 03:48:14 AM »

Ignoscite mihi amici atque linguae latinae cultores: "variarum", non "varium" scribere debuissem.
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« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2009, 12:49:24 PM »

Diabolus tu es!
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^Ego te absolvo!   Grin
LOL!  Grin
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« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2009, 03:29:32 AM »

Diem actionis gratiarum laetam vobis exopto.
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« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2009, 01:18:50 PM »

Augustine,

Diem gratiarum agendarum festivam tibi et tuis famulis exopto.

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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2009, 03:06:12 AM »

Scamandri et alii,
Carnem huius clarissimae indicae sive turcae aut saracenae gallinae manducavistisne?
Ego edi et placuit mihi valde.
Valete.
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« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2009, 12:43:36 PM »

Augustine,

Ita vero, turcam edi.  Bona erat sed nunc, ego sum eroque "vegetarianus" dum diem Natavitatis Christi sequar.
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"Fidei rectorem, mansuetudinum imaginem, castitatis doctorem te veritas rerum monstravit,gregi tuae . Ideo alta humilitate acquisivisti, paupertate divitia; Pater antistes Nicholai, Christum Deum exora animas nostras ut salvas faciat."
Troparion sancti Nicholai archiepiscopi, cuius memoria proxima Dominica facietur.
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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2009, 04:00:30 AM »

Sancti Nicolai dies nobis imminet cum copiosis donis bonis atque sedulis pueris, cum fustibus malis atque petulantibus.
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Hac die Dominica memoriam facimus sanctorum patrum avorumque secundum carnem Domini nostri ICXC, qui ante Legem atque in Lege floruerunt atque Christi adventum primum atque secundum praenuntiaverunt.
Precibusque eorum saluti participes efficiamur.
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Nativitas sancta Christi laetis letitiam augeat, moestis moestitiam auferat !
Gaudeant nunc omnes fines terrae , nobiscum Deus, cuius pacis  atque imperii non erit finis.
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Annum novum optimum, laetitiae plenum atque bonorum operum laetum dignetur nobis Dominus Deus tribuere. Et salvos faciat nos.
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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2010, 05:05:27 PM »

^Amen.
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Tempus Triodii velociter advenit hoc anno . Publicani et pharisaeii, dominicam proximam nostrum kalendarium inscripsit qua memoriam facimus unius humilitatis, alterius superbiae, atque hoc modo, ad  sanctae Quadragessimae spiritales agones praeparamus.
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Festum Presentationis Domini nostri Jesu Christi in templo hodie colimus.
Gaudete :
"Nunc dimittis servum tuum, Domine, secundum verbum tuum in pace:
Quia viderunt oculi mei salutare tuum
Quod parasti ante faciem omnium populorum:
Lumen ad revelationem gentium, et gloriam plebis tuae Israel."
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Quo est Caligula? Sum Caligulae filius; Brutus. Debeo Caligulam videre! Sad
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« Reply #68 on: March 09, 2010, 10:10:54 AM »

^Ne intellegam te filium Caligulae, pessimi imperatoris adusque, esse?  Valde malum id est.
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« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2010, 12:34:49 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmyCH4sPm6U

Gloria Laus et Honor

Gloria laus et honor tibi sit Rex Christe
Redemptor Cui puerile decus prompit Hosanna pium

Israel es tu Rex Davidis et inclyta proles
Nomine qui in Domini
Rex benedicte venis

Coetus in excelsis te laudat
Coelicus omnis  Et mortalis homo
et cuncta creata simul

Plebs Hebraea tibi cum
palmis obvia venit
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Gloria Laus et Honor

Gloria laus et honor tibi sit Rex Christe
Redemptor Cui puerile decus prompit Hosanna pium

Israel es tu Rex Davidis et inclyta proles
Nomine qui in Domini
Rex benedicte venis

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Coelicus omnis  Et mortalis homo
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Plebs Hebraea tibi cum
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Augustine, Quam Pulcherrimum Hymnum nobis dedisti!
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« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2010, 01:33:49 AM »

Si placuit tibi, gaudeo.
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« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2010, 01:42:12 AM »

Si placit tibi, gaudeo.
*si tibi placet...
Augustine tibi dico:maxime, mihi placet multissimum hac cantio romana. (multissimum muchisimo Hispanice vel Italiane moltissimo.)
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« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2010, 01:44:26 AM »

Si placuit tibi, gaudeo.
Unde linguam latinam didicisti? Classicam vel ecclesiaticam?
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« Reply #74 on: March 29, 2010, 01:59:12 AM »

Latinam in schola didici, apud lycaeum universitatemque.
In primis perlegimus  classicos, sed ecclesiasticos auctores maxime amavi.
Vae mihi nunc, sed Latina mea ad priscam rusticitatem videtur mihi revertere.
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« Reply #75 on: March 29, 2010, 02:04:04 AM »

Latinam in schola didici, apud lycaeum universitatemque.
In primis perlegimus  classicos, sed ecclesiasticos auctores maxime amavi.
Vae mihi nunc, sed Latina mea ad priscam rusticitatem videtur mihi revertere.
augustine scis quod ego desiderabam?
ecclesiam orthodoxam esse romanam et latine loqui denovo volo.
¿nonne, Augustine, vis eam latine loqui iterum?
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Tu Christiane, ubi vivis?
Ubi Latinam discis?
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« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2010, 02:08:05 AM »

Tu Christiane, ubi vivis?
Ubi Latinam discis?
Californiam incolo.
Hispanica et latinis libris latinam dedici.
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Tu Christiane, ubi vivis?
Ubi Latinam discis?
Californiam incolo.
Hispanica et latinis libris latinam dedici.
Eheu splendia illa atque callida amoenissima terra Californiae.
Ego autem, exsul in media America, in civitate illa quae caput est omnium medioccidentalium civitatum.
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« Reply #79 on: April 06, 2010, 03:52:38 AM »

Tu Christiane, ubi vivis?
Ubi Latinam discis?
Californiam incolo.
Hispanica et latinis libris latinam dedici.
Eheu splendia illa atque callida amoenissima terra Californiae.
Ego autem, exsul in media America, in civitate illa quae caput est omnium medioccidentalium civitatum.
Exsul?
verbo caput,vis dicere capitolium?
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« Reply #80 on: April 06, 2010, 10:24:49 AM »

Dicere volo maximam urbem mediae Americae.
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« Reply #81 on: April 27, 2010, 02:52:34 AM »

Tribus miraculis ornatum
diem sanctum colimus:
hodie stella magos duxit ad praesepium,
hodie vinum ex aqua factum est ad nuptias,
hodie in Jordane Christus baptizari voluit,
ut salvaret nos universos.
Haec est dies illa, quam fecit Dominus;
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« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2010, 11:48:06 PM »

Cervisiam habes.
Cervisiae careo.
Qualis amicus es?

 Grin
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« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2010, 08:06:41 PM »

In nativitate sancti Johananes Baptistae hunc hymnum legemus:

1. Ut queant laxis resonare fibris
Mira gestorum famuli tuorum,
Solve polluti labii reatum,
Sancte Joannes.

2. Nuntius celso veniens Olympo,
Te patri magnum fore nasciturum,
Nomen, et vitae seriem gerendae
Ordine promit.

3. Ille promissi dubius superni,
Perdidit promptae modulos loquelae:
Sed reformasti genitus peremptae
Organa vocis.

4. Ventris obstruso recubans cubili
Senseras Regem thalamo manentem:
Hinc parens nati meritis uterque
Abdita pandit.

5. Sit decus Patri, genitaeque Proli,
Et tibi compar utriusque virtus,
Spiritus semper, Deus unus, omni
Temporis aevo. Amen.

Censeo enim, hunc hymnum, a Urbano papa,  immutatum essse; origo eius autem antiquior, ad Paulum diaconum ascendens.
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Προφῆτα καὶ Πρόδρομε, τῆς παρουσίας Χριστοῦ, ἀξίως εὐφημῆσαί σε οὐκ εὐποροῦμεν ἡμεῖς, οἱ πόθῳ τιμῶντές σε· στείρωσις γὰρ τεκούσης, καὶ πατρὸς ἀφωνία, λέλυνται τῇ ἐνδόξῳ, καὶ σεπτῇ σου γεννήσει, καὶ σάρκωσις Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ, κόσμῳ κηρύττεται.

Propheta et Precursor  adventus Christi, digne laudare te non possumus nos  amore te venerantes. Quia parentis sterilitas patrisque silentium absolvuntur in gloriosa et honorabile tua nativitate, atque Dei Filii incarnatio mundo annuntiatur.

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« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2010, 09:02:54 PM »

Sancte Iohannes ille Propheta et Precursor, ora pro nobis deum!
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« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2010, 11:17:53 AM »

In hoc inclyto festo Ss. Apostolorum Petri et Pauli:

Apostolorum passio
diem sacravit sæculi,
Petri triumphum nobilem,
Pauli coronam pæferens.

Coniunxit æquales viros
cruor triumphalis necis;
Deum secutos præsulem
Christi coronavit fides.

Primus Petrus apostolus;
nec Paulus inpar gratia,
electionis vas sacræ,
Petri adæquavit fidem.

Verso crucis vestigio
Simon, honorem dans Deo,
suspensus ascendit, dati
non inmemor oraculi.

Hinc Roma celsum verticem
devotionis extulit,
fundata tali sanguine
et vate tanto nobilis.

Huc ire quis mundum putet,
concurrere plebem poli:
electa gentium caput,
sedes magistri gentium.

Horum, Redemptor, quæsumus,
ut principum consortio
iungas precantes servulos
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« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2010, 01:08:59 PM »

^Quis est auctor huius?  Mirabile dictu!
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« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2010, 01:19:40 PM »

Sancto Ambrosio Mediolanensi episcopo attribuitur.
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« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2010, 01:30:04 PM »

Antiquior versio eiusdem hymni:


Apostolorum passio
diem sacravit saeculi,
Petri triumphum nobilem,
Pauli coronam paeferens.


coniunxit aequales viros
cruor triumphalis necis,
deum secutos praesulem
Christi coronavit fides.

primus Petrus apostolus
nec Paulus inpar gratia;
electionis vas sacrae,
Petri adaequavit fidem.

verso crucis vestigio
Simon honorem dans deo
suspensus ascendit, dati
non inmemor oraculi.

praecinctus, ut dictum est, senex
et elevatus ab altero
quo nollet ivit, sed volens
mortem subegit asperam.

hinc Roma celsum verticem
devotionis extulit,
fundata tali sanguine
et vate tanto nobilis.

tantae per urbis ambitum
stipata tendunt agmina,
trinis clebratur viis
festum sacrorum martyrum.

prodire quis mundum putet,
concurrere plebem poli:
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O Roma nobilis, orbis et domina,
Cunctarum urbium excellentissima,
Roseo martyrum sanguine rubea,
Albis et virginum liliis candida,
Salutem dicimus tibi per omnia
Te benedicimus: salve per saecula

Petre tu praepotens caelorum claviger,
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cum bis sex tribuum sederis arbiter
factus placabilis judica leniter
teque petentibus nunc temporaliter
ferto suffragia misericorditer.

O Paule suscipe nostra precamina
Cujus philosophos vicit industria
Factus oeconomus in domo regia
Divini muneris appone fercula
Ut quae repleverit te sapientia
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Nativitas tua, Dei Genitrix Virgo, gaudium annuntiavit universo mundo ex te enim ortus est Sol justitiae, Christus Deus noster qui solvens maledictionem dedit benedictionem et confundens mortem donavit nobis vitam sempiternam.
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In sequentia, hoc carmen consumite sicut beatus Ambrosius beatusque Augustinus!

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« Reply #93 on: October 27, 2012, 01:13:49 PM »

I am translating the Odes of Horace (into Dutch, not into English, btw) but I need some help:

quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare         
Tyrrhenum:
sapias, vina liques et spatio brevi
spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit invida
aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.

Quae refers to the ultimam [hiemes], I think. So it would be: "Which now weakens upon opposing pumice rocks [...]" Where does Mare Tyrrhenum fit in. Does it mean "Which now weakens upon opposing pumice rocks of the Tyrrhenian Sea "?

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« Reply #94 on: October 27, 2012, 01:27:30 PM »

Horace is depressing, especially the second stanza  Undecided

Ode I.5:

Quis multa gracilis te puer in rosa
perfusus liquidis urget odoribus
grato, Pyrrha, sub antro?
Cui flavam religas comam

simplex munditiis? Heu quotiens fidem
mutatosque deos flebit et aspera
nigris aequora ventis
emirabitur insolens,

qui nunc te fruitur credulus aurea,
qui semper vacuam, semper amabilem
sperat nescius aurae
fallacis. Miseri, quibus

intemptata nites. Me tabula sacer
votiva paries indicat uvida
suspendisse potenti
vestimenta maris deo.    
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« Reply #95 on: October 27, 2012, 03:04:28 PM »

I am translating the Odes of Horace (into Dutch, not into English, btw) but I need some help:

quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare         
Tyrrhenum:
sapias, vina liques et spatio brevi
spem longam reseces. dum loquimur, fugerit invida
aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.

Quae refers to the ultimam [hiemes], I think. So it would be: "Which now weakens upon opposing pumice rocks [...]" Where does Mare Tyrrhenum fit in. Does it mean "Which now weakens upon opposing pumice rocks of the Tyrrhenian Sea "?



Isn't "mare tyrrhenum" the subject (have no time to look for the preceeding lines): "Those that now, on opposing pumice cliffs, the Tyrrhenian sea weakens."
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« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2012, 03:11:35 PM »

The whole ode is:

Tu ne quaesieris - scire nefas - quem mihi, quem tibi
finem di dederint, Leuconoë, nec Babylonios
temptaris numeros. Ut melius, quicquid erit, pati!
seu plures hiemes, seu tribuit Iuppiter ultimam,

quae nunc oppositis debilitat pumicibus mare
Tyrhenum. Sapias, vina liques, et spatio brevi
spem longam reseces. Dum loquimur, fugerit invida
aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero.


From Ut melius I had:

"It's better to, whatever it may be, to suffer it! Whether Jupiter gives many winters or the last [ultimam], which [quae] now weakens on the opposing rocks of the Tyrrhenian Sea, etc"
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« Reply #97 on: October 27, 2012, 03:21:43 PM »

Just give debilitat a freer translation and it's gonna make sense. Mare Tyrrhenian is the direct object so you ave "the winter that's now tossing the Tyrrenian sea between pumice cliffs"
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« Reply #98 on: October 27, 2012, 03:28:23 PM »

Just give debilitat a freer translation and it's gonna make sense. Mare Tyrrhenian is the direct object so you ave "the winter that's now tossing the Tyrrenian sea between pumice cliffs"

This makes sense indeed. Thanks!

I changed it to "which now weakens the Tyrrhenian sea on opposing rocks". Not making it too free but not making it overly literal either.
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« Reply #99 on: October 27, 2012, 05:07:19 PM »

Is Latin taught in most Dutch high-schools? and how many years?
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« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2012, 05:27:16 PM »

Is Latin taught in most Dutch high-schools? and how many years?

We have segregated levels in high school. Only the highest level of high school has Latin and Greek. <5% of high school students do that level and only a few remain in the final classes. Around 15 students in the last three classes combined follow Greek courses in my school with 1500 students. Not that many schools offer the level which has Greek and Latin.

Latin is taught for 6 years, Greek for 5 years (not done the first year). I'm in my 6th year.
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« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2012, 05:34:35 PM »

When i was in school, in Romania, we started Latin in the 8th grade and went on throughout the 12th. Greek was only taught in few high-schools. But Latin was mandatory for everyone, although, of course, only a small number actually learned it.
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« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2012, 05:38:46 PM »

When i was in school, in Romania, we started Latin in the 8th grade and went on throughout the 12th. Greek was only taught in few high-schools. But Latin was mandatory for everyone, although, of course, only a small number actually learned it.

I pity the Romanian children being forced to learn Latin. Only a few really like it, all of my friends couldn't stand it. Did you learn Greek as well?

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« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2012, 05:39:55 PM »

When i was in school, in Romania, we started Latin in the 8th grade and went on throughout the 12th. Greek was only taught in few high-schools. But Latin was mandatory for everyone, although, of course, only a small number actually learned it.

I pity the Romanian children being forced to learn Latin. Only a few really like it, all of my friends couldn't stand it. Did you learn Greek as well?


Yes, but in college.
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« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2012, 01:45:14 PM »

Eheu fugaces, Postume, Postume, labuntur anni.
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« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2012, 03:58:01 PM »

I had Latin classes from 7th grade to 9th grade. A shame I was too young, Latin classes now would be very interesting.  Wink

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« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2012, 04:28:10 PM »

The latest addition to my book collection. A diglot of Horace (Latin-Dutch):

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« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2012, 04:31:12 PM »

I know next to nothing about Latin but you might be interested in Nuntii Latini. It's a Latin news service provided by Finnish public broadcasting company.
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« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2012, 04:39:24 PM »

I know Nuntii Latini. It's awesome.
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« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2012, 06:57:19 PM »

When i was in school, in Romania, we started Latin in the 8th grade and went on throughout the 12th. Greek was only taught in few high-schools. But Latin was mandatory for everyone, although, of course, only a small number actually learned it.

I pity the Romanian children being forced to learn Latin.
Why?  They love it: it affirms that they are not Slavs.

It's also not that different, sort of like Italian (except Romanian still has declension).
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« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2012, 07:01:16 PM »

O Roma nobilis, orbis et domina,
Cunctarum urbium excellentissima,
Roseo martyrum sanguine rubea,
Albis et virginum liliis candida,
Salutem dicimus tibi per omnia
Te benedicimus: salve per saecula

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Scribis "Cujus" in Romania/Dacia?
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« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2012, 05:35:25 AM »

"Cujus" in tempora post casum Imperii Romani Occidentalis et ante Renatum (in saeculis XIV-XVI) ab omnibus usus est.
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« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2012, 06:07:44 AM »

Jejunuium Nativitatis mane oritur et huius anni cursus ad finem  accedit.
Tam rapidum tempus, ut cum Horatio velim clamare:

"Eheu fugaces, Postume, Postume,   
  labuntur anni nec pietas moram   
rugis et instanti senectae   
  adferet indomitaeque morti;"


'Nec pietas moram rugis et instanti senectae adferet indormitaeque morti'?  "Quae enim commuicatio luci ad tenebras? Qui consensus Christo et Belial?  Quid facit cum Psalterio Horatius?" (Sanctus Hieronymus: Epistula 22:29)

Horatium Flaccum, vatem optimum maximumque, multo diligo.

AMEN!
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