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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2009, 04:38:33 PM »
Not that I have any love for the Ducks, Bob, but what's with the hatred for Anaheim?  :D

Hmmm.  I'll try outlining in a list format why I have such trouble with the Ducks.

1.  Chris Pronger is on their team.
2.  They may be the dirtiest team in the league.
3.  I am a Senators fan.....I don't really understand how the Ducks managed to beat the Wings in 2007 to get to the final, and, well, need I go into the rest? haha.
4.  IMHO they aren't that interesting a team to watch, though they do sometimes display an admirable dogged determination. 
And finally, #5:  Chris Pronger is on their team.   ;)
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« Reply #181 on: May 10, 2009, 11:09:09 PM »
Simple resolution, have Pronger traded to the Senators...
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« Reply #182 on: May 11, 2009, 12:01:05 AM »
Simple resolution, have Pronger traded to the Senators...

Funny.   ::)
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« Reply #183 on: May 11, 2009, 10:34:58 AM »
Did somebody say something about the Capitals getting to the finals?

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #184 on: May 11, 2009, 10:52:17 AM »
^Actually, Pravoslavbob, Greinke's ERA after a 6-0 start is 0.40.  That's been done by only two other people.  One of them was Fernando Venenzuela back in 1980, I think.  Can't remember the other guy.  Either way, it's damn impressive.
I think Randy Johnson did something like that once.

Not according to ESPN who compiled the stats of starting pitchers who went 6-0 with an ERA under .50.  There were only the three--Greinke, Venenzuela and some other guy.  I'm not going to argue with those guys.

BTW, how close is Johnson to winning #300?  Now that is far more impressive than a .50 ERA.

I'll be impressed when someone breaks Cy Young's win record. 512 is the magic number.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #185 on: May 13, 2009, 06:41:44 PM »
^Actually, Pravoslavbob, Greinke's ERA after a 6-0 start is 0.40.  That's been done by only two other people.  One of them was Fernando Venenzuela back in 1980, I think.  Can't remember the other guy.  Either way, it's damn impressive.
I think Randy Johnson did something like that once.

Not according to ESPN who compiled the stats of starting pitchers who went 6-0 with an ERA under .50.  There were only the three--Greinke, Venenzuela and some other guy.  I'm not going to argue with those guys.

BTW, how close is Johnson to winning #300?  Now that is far more impressive than a .50 ERA.

I'll be impressed when someone breaks Cy Young's win record. 512 is the magic number.

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Yeah, and Cy Young pitched every other day, too.  Ain't no manager even going to think about allowing a starting pitcher to do that nowadays.

Hey, did anyone happen to see the Phillies' Jayson Werth steal second, third, and home on the same trip around the bases during the seventh inning of yesterday's game against the Dodgers? :o

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« Reply #186 on: May 13, 2009, 08:55:57 PM »
Did anyone see Dodger center fielder Matt Kemp score from 2nd on a bunt ?
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« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2009, 11:30:41 AM »
Did anyone see Dodger center fielder Matt Kemp score from 2nd on a bunt ?
You're kidding me! Is there a video of this?
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« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2009, 11:56:57 AM »
Did anyone see Dodger center fielder Matt Kemp score from 2nd on a bunt ?


No, but I saw 2 homeruns get called back on replay.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #189 on: May 17, 2009, 10:17:41 PM »
Bye, bye, Celtics!  Orlando starts 4th Quarter w/ 13-1 run to expand their 5 point lead after 3 and bury Boston.

It's time now for King James to take the crown. ;D
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« Reply #190 on: May 17, 2009, 11:58:47 PM »
King James reign will end in LA...

Celtics were doomed without Garnett...
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #191 on: May 18, 2009, 12:18:23 AM »
King James reign will end in LA...
Nah!  Cleveland has been deadly consistent, while the Lakers have been self-admittedly bipolar.

Celtics were doomed without Garnett...
Yup.  No doubt about that.  No one to match up on Dwight Howard to keep him from pulling down rebounds and scoring points.
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« Reply #192 on: May 18, 2009, 12:23:01 AM »
Who has defeated Cleveland at home ?
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« Reply #193 on: May 18, 2009, 12:36:20 AM »
It's all about the Royals!

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #194 on: May 18, 2009, 12:44:58 AM »
Who has defeated Cleveland at home ?
Like that matters in the NBA Finals?
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« Reply #195 on: May 18, 2009, 01:25:12 AM »
Everything matters...when Phil gets into your head
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #196 on: May 18, 2009, 03:00:07 AM »
Everything matters...when Phil gets into your head
Didn't help the Lakers against Boston last year, especially that last game when the Celtics beat LA by 32.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #197 on: May 18, 2009, 07:22:20 PM »
King James reign will end in LA...

Celtics were doomed without Garnett...

I agree.  Although, I really thought they were going to beat the Magic and then lose to the Cavs.

I'm a big KG fan, and I was not happy with the news of his injury.  :(

Was anyone here shocked as I was when KG decided to leave Minnesota last year to join the Celtics?   There were rumors of him leaving, but it was to join the Lakers though, not the Celtics.
And I totally was not happy seeing Paul Pierce getting MVP last year.  If anything, Ray Allen in my opinion deserved it more (if not KG).

PS I think Cavs will beat Orlando 4-0, Lakers will beat Nuggets 4-3, and Cavs will beat Lakers 4-0.  I can smell it.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #198 on: May 18, 2009, 07:49:37 PM »
King James reign will end in LA...

Celtics were doomed without Garnett...

I agree.  Although, I really thought they were going to beat the Magic and then lose to the Cavs.

I'm a big KG fan, and I was not happy with the news of his injury.  :(

Was anyone here shocked as I was when KG decided to leave Minnesota last year to join the Celtics?   There were rumors of him leaving, but it was to join the Lakers though, not the Celtics.
And I totally was not happy seeing Paul Pierce getting MVP last year.  If anything, Ray Allen in my opinion deserved it more (if not KG).

PS I think Cavs will beat Orlando 4-0, Lakers will beat Nuggets 4-3, and Cavs will beat Lakers 4-0.  I can smell it.
So, you think the Cavs will actually do what no one else has done before:  win every playoff game?  Of course, they just became the first team to ever win their first eight playoff games by double-digit margins.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #199 on: May 18, 2009, 08:18:26 PM »
King James reign will end in LA...

Celtics were doomed without Garnett...

I agree.  Although, I really thought they were going to beat the Magic and then lose to the Cavs.

I'm a big KG fan, and I was not happy with the news of his injury.  :(

Was anyone here shocked as I was when KG decided to leave Minnesota last year to join the Celtics?   There were rumors of him leaving, but it was to join the Lakers though, not the Celtics.
And I totally was not happy seeing Paul Pierce getting MVP last year.  If anything, Ray Allen in my opinion deserved it more (if not KG).

PS I think Cavs will beat Orlando 4-0, Lakers will beat Nuggets 4-3, and Cavs will beat Lakers 4-0.  I can smell it.
So, you think the Cavs will actually do what no one else has done before:  win every playoff game?  Of course, they just became the first team to ever win their first eight playoff games by double-digit margins.

I just have a feeling that this time, it will happen.  But I know chances are I'm wrong.
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« Reply #200 on: May 21, 2009, 10:37:29 PM »
What happened to those Cavs and King James ? They lost at home to...the Magic  :P

Who knew...  8)
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #201 on: May 21, 2009, 10:46:01 PM »
What happened to those Cavs and King James ? They lost at home to...the Magic  :P

Who knew...  8)
But I don't think they'll lose another home game in this series.  They know now that they can't just stand around and let King James carry the team over the Magic by himself.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #202 on: May 22, 2009, 12:05:57 AM »
As long as King James has no real help, SuperHoward and the Magic win the series.

I can't wait to see King James sprinkle his magic dust for the Knicks.  He will bring the Knicks back to glory just as KG did for the Celtics.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #203 on: May 22, 2009, 12:33:38 AM »
As long as King James has no real help, SuperHoward and the Magic win the series.
Oh, King James has teammates capable of giving him the help he needs, as evidenced by Cleveland's ability to jump out to a 15-point halftime lead.  They just need to keep active for the whole 48 minutes and not grow complacent to the point of sitting back and watching LeBron attack the defense by himself.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #204 on: May 22, 2009, 01:04:21 AM »
As long as King James has no real help, SuperHoward and the Magic win the series.
Oh, King James has teammates capable of giving him the help he needs, as evidenced by Cleveland's ability to jump out to a 15-point halftime lead.  They just need to keep active for the whole 48 minutes and not grow complacent to the point of sitting back and watching LeBron attack the defense by himself.

Thanks for reminding me, The Cavs coach is nothing like zen master Phil Jackson. 

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #205 on: May 23, 2009, 01:21:52 AM »
Looks like King James just one-upped the last superstar basketball player to wear his number 23.  Remember Michael Jordan over the Cavaliers' Craig Ehlo?  Now it's LeBron James over Hedo Turkoglu.  (buzzer-beating 3-pointer to win Game 2 by 1 and tie the series at 1-1)
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« Reply #206 on: May 23, 2009, 07:33:58 PM »
One lucky shot...but he's not in Jordan's league yet
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2009, 04:10:49 AM »
One lucky shot...but he's not in Jordan's league yet
But then neither was Jordan when he hit the shot over Ehlo (in that MJ was still a few years away from winning his first NBA title).
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« Reply #208 on: May 26, 2009, 12:08:28 PM »
One lucky shot...but he's not in Jordan's league yet
But then neither was Jordan when he hit the shot over Ehlo (in that MJ was still a few years away from winning his first NBA title).

LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

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« Reply #209 on: May 26, 2009, 12:48:23 PM »
One lucky shot...but he's not in Jordan's league yet
But then neither was Jordan when he hit the shot over Ehlo (in that MJ was still a few years away from winning his first NBA title).

LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.
Wasn't Michael Jordan's league the NBA? ;)
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #210 on: May 26, 2009, 01:02:41 PM »
LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

King James will surpass Jordan if he signs with the Knicks or Panathiakos in Greece or China's #1 team.   ;)

I'm a Knick fan - through good and bad - through Ewing's missed tip in against the Pacers on May 21, 1995.   :'(

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #211 on: May 26, 2009, 02:58:02 PM »
boy was i wrong...twice!
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« Reply #212 on: May 26, 2009, 03:13:19 PM »
LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

King James will surpass Jordan if he signs with the Knicks or Panathiakos in Greece or China's #1 team.   ;)

I'm a Knick fan - through good and bad - through Ewing's missed tip in against the Pacers on May 21, 1995.   :'(

I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #213 on: May 26, 2009, 03:23:29 PM »
I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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As you said, NBA Parity will cost James his chance to eclipse Jordan.  Look at Orlando knocking off Boston (without an injured KG).  James is still young except it is more difficult to win back to back Championships never mind 6.  That is why for the right price, James can establish international fame by playing in China (as rumored) or Greece (as rumored).

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #214 on: May 26, 2009, 04:46:20 PM »
I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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As you said, NBA Parity will cost James his chance to eclipse Jordan.  Look at Orlando knocking off Boston (without an injured KG).  James is still young except it is more difficult to win back to back Championships never mind 6.  That is why for the right price, James can establish international fame by playing in China (as rumored) or Greece (as rumored).

Not even Orlando, the Bulls almost knocked off the defending champions..........

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #215 on: May 26, 2009, 04:49:50 PM »
LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

King James will surpass Jordan if he signs with the Knicks or Panathiakos in Greece or China's #1 team.   ;)

I'm a Knick fan - through good and bad - through Ewing's missed tip in against the Pacers on May 21, 1995.   :'(

I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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I'd be willing to bet that Jordan would have never won an NBA title if he didn't have Scottie Pippen as his sidekick.  Everyone likes to point out that Pippen never won an NBA title without Jordan, which is correct.  But what most of these pundits overlook in their Jordan-mania is that Jordan never won an NBA title without Pippen, either.
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« Reply #216 on: May 26, 2009, 04:51:46 PM »
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #217 on: May 26, 2009, 04:53:41 PM »
As most of us saw, the 2004 Greek Olympic team picked and rolled their way around the US team, with Lebron James.

Wouldn't James just want to play with these pick and roll artists and Jeff van Gundy learning Greek and coaching Panathiakos.   :P

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #218 on: May 26, 2009, 05:17:40 PM »
As most of us saw, the 2004 Greek Olympic team picked and rolled their way around the US team, with Lebron James.
But King James has since worked on his defense to the point that he actually finished second this year (incidentally, to Dwight Howard, the centerpiece of the Orlando Magic defense LeBron now has to attack) in the NBA Defensive Player of the Year voting.
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« Reply #219 on: May 26, 2009, 05:23:07 PM »
But King James has since worked on his defense to the point that he actually finished second this year (incidentally, to Dwight Howard, the centerpiece of the Orlando Magic defense LeBron now has to attack) in the NBA Defensive Player of the Year voting.

What a difference 5 years makes.  Without a sidekick a la Pippen, James will be known only for his magic dust.

In Greece, James could average 45 pts a game and have 2 or 3 Scottie Pippen wannabes as a competent supporting cast.   ;)

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #220 on: May 26, 2009, 05:30:23 PM »
But King James has since worked on his defense to the point that he actually finished second this year (incidentally, to Dwight Howard, the centerpiece of the Orlando Magic defense LeBron now has to attack) in the NBA Defensive Player of the Year voting.

What a difference 5 years makes.  Without a sidekick a la Pippen, James will be known only for his magic dust.

In Greece, James could average 45 pts a game and have 2 or 3 Scottie Pippen wannabes as a competent supporting cast.   ;)
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #221 on: May 27, 2009, 01:41:37 PM »
LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

King James will surpass Jordan if he signs with the Knicks or Panathiakos in Greece or China's #1 team.   ;)

I'm a Knick fan - through good and bad - through Ewing's missed tip in against the Pacers on May 21, 1995.   :'(

I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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I'd be willing to bet that Jordan would have never won an NBA title if he didn't have Scottie Pippen as his sidekick.  Everyone likes to point out that Pippen never won an NBA title without Jordan, which is correct.  But what most of these pundits overlook in their Jordan-mania is that Jordan never won an NBA title without Pippen, either.

I can see that supported, but I would wager that Pippen could've been replaced and the Bulls still would've won. In 1998 when the Bulls went 62-20 Pippen only Played in 44 games that season. If they won every game Pippen played in, they would've had an 18-20 record extrapolating this over 82 games would give you approximately a 41-41 record. Now thats probably stretching it since I'm sure they lost games that Pippen played in, so that would change the stats. It would be interesting to run a sim on one of those basketball games from the 90s to see what the Bulls would do with and withhout Pippen.

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King James and his court look like they're going to become the victims of a Magic Siege!

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #223 on: May 27, 2009, 01:46:29 PM »
I was so wrong....

Never again am I going to back a flawless record...sheesh!  They were so on fire.  Man if Orlando struggled against Celtics, then what does that say about a KG-less Celtics against the Cavs?

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #224 on: May 27, 2009, 01:57:49 PM »
LeBron James will NEVER be in Michael Jordan's League.

King James will surpass Jordan if he signs with the Knicks or Panathiakos in Greece or China's #1 team.   ;)

I'm a Knick fan - through good and bad - through Ewing's missed tip in against the Pacers on May 21, 1995.   :'(

I seriously doubt Jordan will be surpassed by James. James is not the all around player that Jordan was, nor is he able to single handedly carry his team through the playoffs. Further, the teams these days are weaker than the teams in the 80s and 90s when Jordan played. James may statistically pass Jordan, but he will never be greater than Jordan.

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I'd be willing to bet that Jordan would have never won an NBA title if he didn't have Scottie Pippen as his sidekick.  Everyone likes to point out that Pippen never won an NBA title without Jordan, which is correct.  But what most of these pundits overlook in their Jordan-mania is that Jordan never won an NBA title without Pippen, either.

I can see that supported, but I would wager that Pippen could've been replaced and the Bulls still would've won. In 1998 when the Bulls went 62-20 Pippen only Played in 44 games that season. If they won every game Pippen played in, they would've had an 18-20 record extrapolating this over 82 games would give you approximately a 41-41 record. Now thats probably stretching it since I'm sure they lost games that Pippen played in, so that would change the stats. It would be interesting to run a sim on one of those basketball games from the 90s to see what the Bulls would do with and withhout Pippen.

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Well, it looks as if Jordan had just started to hit his prime when Pippen joined the Bulls and Pippen had just started his decline when Jordan left the Bulls for good after the 1998 championship.  The Bulls were certainly blessed to have both athletes playing together in their primes.  Mike and Scottie made so much court magic together.

BTW, I still haven't forgiven Jordan for knocking down five three-pointers in the first half of Game 1 against my Blazers (1992 NBA Finals). >:(  Just kidding. ;)  Even though the Blazers lost that series, I considered it a great treat to be able to watch those two teams go head to head, when my summer military training allowed--I was on a 2-week exercise with many of the Marines from my reserve battalion.  The matchup of Clyde Drexler vs. Michael Jordan, the two best shooting guards of that day, was a spectacle to see!
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