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« Reply #630 on: November 05, 2009, 02:06:51 AM »

Even the Montreal Canadiens have taken decades long breaks from winning titles.

The Yankees will spend another half a billion on free agents and attempt at going 162-0.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #631 on: November 05, 2009, 06:28:16 AM »

It's so hard to get to the championship, no matter what you spend. Surviving three short series against the best is treacherous.

I'll be at the parade tomorrow!

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« Reply #632 on: November 05, 2009, 08:59:39 AM »

What the Yankees have done (purchase a championship) others have done (ahem, Boston).  I don't like it, but then again I don't have to.
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« Reply #633 on: November 05, 2009, 04:08:19 PM »

Here are some figures, gee, where are the Red Sox ? Wonder who spends the most every year...



New York Yankees Salaries - 2009
Player   Salary (US$)
1. Alex Rodriguez   33,000,000
2. Derek Jeter   21,600,000
3. Mark Teixeira   20,625,000
4. A.J. Burnett   16,500,000
5. CC Sabathia   15,285,714
6. Mariano Rivera   15,000,000
7. Jorge Posada   13,100,000
8 a. Johnny Damon   13,000,000
8 b. Hideki Matsui   13,000,000
10. Robinson Cano   6,000,000
11. Andy Pettitte   5,500,000
12. Nick Swisher   5,400,000
13. Damaso Marte   3,750,000
14. Jose Molina   2,125,000
15. Jerry Hairston Jr.   2,000,000
16. Melky Cabrera   1,400,000
17. Joba Chamberlain   432,575
18. Brett Gardner   414,000
19. Phil Hughes   407,650
20. David Robertson   406,825
21. Alfredo Aceves   406,750
22. Phil Coke   403,300
23. Francisco Cervelli   400,000
Total Team Salary:    208,097,414



Team   Payroll (US$)
1. NY Yankees    208,097,414
2. NY Mets    145,367,987
3. Chicago Cubs    134,058,500
4. Boston    122,435,399
5. Detroit    119,160,145
6. LA Angels    118,964,000
7. Seattle    112,053,666
8. Philadelphia    111,209,046
9. Houston    102,996,414
10. Chicago Sox    100,598,500
11. LA Dodgers    100,008,592
12. Atlanta    94,313,666
13. St. Louis    87,703,409
14. San Francisco    82,616,450
15. Kansas City    81,384,553
16. Milwaukee    80,182,502
17. Cincinnati    73,558,500
18. Arizona    73,516,666
19. Texas    73,439,238
20. Toronto    72,563,200
21. Colorado    72,428,000
22. Tampa Bay    68,230,934
23. Minnesota    67,634,766
24. Cleveland    66,757,366
25. Washington    62,001,000
26. Baltimore    61,885,566
27. Oakland    56,089,250
28. San Diego    37,800,800
29. Florida    35,774,000
30. Pittsburgh    25,197,000
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« Reply #634 on: November 05, 2009, 04:27:14 PM »

I dare you to tell Padres or Marlins fans how "poor" your Red Sox are.

Say what you want about the Steinbrenners, instead of pocketing their baseball profits, they put it back in the team.

And the Big Four, the Old Guard, were all home-grown. Smart trades and an excellently run farm system have also helped.

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
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« Reply #635 on: November 05, 2009, 04:49:52 PM »

I would love to see a low budget team win the WS, or any other sporting championship, all these "sports entertainers" make too much money...

The average Joe can't afford to take the family to a game...
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« Reply #636 on: November 05, 2009, 06:16:23 PM »

Here are some figures, gee, where are the Red Sox ? Wonder who spends the most every year...

How about the two recent world championship years?  How 'bout them?
(Oh, btw: they're still in the "spending a ton of money" category, even if they're "only" #4.)
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« Reply #637 on: November 05, 2009, 06:17:35 PM »

It's fascinating that #1 (NY) is spending between 8 and 9 times as much as #30 (Pit).  Wow.
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« Reply #638 on: November 05, 2009, 08:16:54 PM »

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
Hmm...exactly the same fate as the Twins, who spent half as much. The idea of "buying a championship" just doesn't fly with me. In baseball, spending more money just doesn't necessarily translate into better results.
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« Reply #639 on: November 05, 2009, 08:48:42 PM »

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
Hmm...exactly the same fate as the Twins, who spent half as much. The idea of "buying a championship" just doesn't fly with me. In baseball, spending more money just doesn't necessarily translate into better results.
Yes, and I notice that one of the teams in the 2008 World Series is ranked #22 on the team payroll list, yet they finished better in their division than both division mates, the #1 Yankees and the #4 Red Sox, and beat the Red Sox in the ALCS.
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« Reply #640 on: November 06, 2009, 12:07:52 AM »

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
Hmm...exactly the same fate as the Twins, who spent half as much. The idea of "buying a championship" just doesn't fly with me. In baseball, spending more money just doesn't necessarily translate into better results.
Yes, and I notice that one of the teams in the 2008 World Series is ranked #22 on the team payroll list, yet they finished better in their division than both division mates, the #1 Yankees and the #4 Red Sox, and beat the Red Sox in the ALCS.

The other 29 teams (including the Rays) didn't spend $424.5 Million to lock up Sabathia, Teixiera and Burnett to long term contracts.  The Steinbrenners have another half billion (or more) to buy the best talent in baseball.

The NY Yankees are the Monopoly of MLB (itself a protected monopoly).  In the 1970's and 1980's, it was the Oriole Way.  In the 1990's and beyond, the Yankee Way rules except no one has the ability to spend $2.5 Billion on stadiums and players like the Yankees have done.
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« Reply #641 on: November 06, 2009, 02:07:05 AM »

Any predictions or thoughts on BAMA vs LSU this Saturday?

As a Tide fan, I'm worried about this game. LSU matches up well with us, and they have a lot of talent. We should be able to run the ball on them, and our defense should play great as always. I think it's gonna come down to special teams and turnovers. What worries me is that our kickoff coverage has been poor all year, and they have a great return man in Trindon Holliday. Could be the deciding facet of the game.

This game most likely determines the western division of the SEC. If we win, we're locked into the SEC Cahmpionship. If LSU wins, then they control their own destiny from here on out.

But I've got to stay positive and optimistic. Let's hope the Tide Rolls again! Wink

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« Reply #642 on: November 06, 2009, 07:54:11 AM »

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
Hmm...exactly the same fate as the Twins, who spent half as much. The idea of "buying a championship" just doesn't fly with me. In baseball, spending more money just doesn't necessarily translate into better results.
Yes, and I notice that one of the teams in the 2008 World Series is ranked #22 on the team payroll list, yet they finished better in their division than both division mates, the #1 Yankees and the #4 Red Sox, and beat the Red Sox in the ALCS.

The other 29 teams (including the Rays) didn't spend $424.5 Million to lock up Sabathia, Teixiera and Burnett to long term contracts.  The Steinbrenners have another half billion (or more) to buy the best talent in baseball.

The NY Yankees are the Monopoly of MLB (itself a protected monopoly).  In the 1970's and 1980's, it was the Oriole Way.  In the 1990's and beyond, the Yankee Way rules except no one has the ability to spend $2.5 Billion on stadiums and players like the Yankees have done.
And for all they spent, they didn't even make the playoffs last year. In fact, before this one, they hadn't been to a World Series since 2001, and then they were defeated by the Diamondbacks, a team that had only been in existence for four years. It seems the Yankees' strategy isn't terribly successful.

Perhaps your complaint has more to do with your team's lack of commitment to winning than in anything the Yankees are doing?
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« Reply #643 on: November 06, 2009, 03:16:54 PM »

A big payroll can produce a good team, but it can't produce a championship. What did Boston accomplish with their payroll? Oh, yes---three and out.
Hmm...exactly the same fate as the Twins, who spent half as much. The idea of "buying a championship" just doesn't fly with me. In baseball, spending more money just doesn't necessarily translate into better results.
Yes, and I notice that one of the teams in the 2008 World Series is ranked #22 on the team payroll list, yet they finished better in their division than both division mates, the #1 Yankees and the #4 Red Sox, and beat the Red Sox in the ALCS.

The other 29 teams (including the Rays) didn't spend $424.5 Million to lock up Sabathia, Teixiera and Burnett to long term contracts.  The Steinbrenners have another half billion (or more) to buy the best talent in baseball.

The NY Yankees are the Monopoly of MLB (itself a protected monopoly).  In the 1970's and 1980's, it was the Oriole Way.  In the 1990's and beyond, the Yankee Way rules except no one has the ability to spend $2.5 Billion on stadiums and players like the Yankees have done.
And for all they spent, they didn't even make the playoffs last year. In fact, before this one, they hadn't been to a World Series since 2001, and then they were defeated by the Diamondbacks, a team that had only been in existence for four years. It seems the Yankees' strategy isn't terribly successful.

Perhaps your complaint has more to do with your team's lack of commitment to winning than in anything the Yankees are doing?
Yup.  The Red Sox have won more World Series titles since 2000 than the Yankees.
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« Reply #644 on: November 06, 2009, 06:23:49 PM »

Perhaps your complaint has more to do with your team's lack of commitment to winning than in anything the Yankees are doing?

Besides the Orioles (26 years and counting), how about the other 15 teams who haven't been to a World Series since 2000 - there is no commitment to winning?

Sure, the Pirates are the Bidwells of MLB.  What about the other 15 teams who can't afford billions for Stadiums and the like?  MLB is not Champions League where spending Billions doesn't guarantee success (ask the Glazers and Manchester United).
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« Reply #645 on: November 06, 2009, 07:47:23 PM »

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Any predictions or thoughts on BAMA vs LSU this Saturday?

As a Tide fan, I'm worried about this game. LSU matches up well with us, and they have a lot of talent. We should be able to run the ball on them, and our defense should play great as always. I think it's gonna come down to special teams and turnovers. What worries me is that our kickoff coverage has been poor all year, and they have a great return man in Trindon Holliday. Could be the deciding facet of the game.

This game most likely determines the western division of the SEC. If we win, we're locked into the SEC Cahmpionship. If LSU wins, then they control their own destiny from here on out.

But I've got to stay positive and optimistic. Let's hope the Tide Rolls again!

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My thoughts: the SEC officials won't be able to blow calls to allow SEC teams defeat non-SEC teams.  Though, the refs probably want Alabama to play Florida in the SEC championship game...so the ratio of penalties will be Alabama 1 for 5 yards to LSU's 15 for 115 yards.
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« Reply #646 on: November 06, 2009, 07:51:31 PM »

Tomorrow on CBS, Fedor Emelianenko will be fighting at 9:00/8:00 C.  For any interested in seeing one of, if not the best MMA fighter live in action, tune in.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVVrNOQtlzY
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« Reply #647 on: November 07, 2009, 09:35:33 AM »

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Any predictions or thoughts on BAMA vs LSU this Saturday?

As a Tide fan, I'm worried about this game. LSU matches up well with us, and they have a lot of talent. We should be able to run the ball on them, and our defense should play great as always. I think it's gonna come down to special teams and turnovers. What worries me is that our kickoff coverage has been poor all year, and they have a great return man in Trindon Holliday. Could be the deciding facet of the game.

This game most likely determines the western division of the SEC. If we win, we're locked into the SEC Cahmpionship. If LSU wins, then they control their own destiny from here on out.

But I've got to stay positive and optimistic. Let's hope the Tide Rolls again!

Selam

My thoughts: the SEC officials won't be able to blow calls to allow SEC teams defeat non-SEC teams.  Though, the refs probably want Alabama to play Florida in the SEC championship game...so the ratio of penalties will be Alabama 1 for 5 yards to LSU's 15 for 115 yards.
One call doesn't make the difference between winning and losing. "The referees made a mistake" is nothing more than a cop-out. A good player will not focus on the decisions of the officials but rather on what he can do better next time to help the team win.
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I'd agree with this statement for the most part.  However, when calls are called or not called and certain teams tend to win over and over again due to this type of officianting one can't argue that "the referees made a mistake."  Tim Donaghy is a prime example of a ref helping certain teams win games.
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« Reply #649 on: November 07, 2009, 11:17:49 AM »

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One call doesn't make the difference between winning and losing. "The referees made a mistake" is nothing more than a cop-out. A good player will not focus on the decisions of the officials but rather on what he can do better next time to help the team win.

I'd agree with this statement for the most part.  However, when calls are called or not called and certain teams tend to win over and over again due to this type of officianting one can't argue that "the referees made a mistake."  Tim Donaghy is a prime example of a ref helping certain teams win games.
I take issue with the idea that certain teams win because of the officials. Can you cite some examples from Tim Donaghy's career that support your point?
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« Reply #650 on: November 07, 2009, 11:29:00 AM »

I can't give any personal accounts from Donaghy, because his book will now not be published.  However, since I am unemployeed, I spend parts of my day watching ESPN.  Last week there was a lot of discussion concerning Donaghy's book and how currupt NBA officials can be.
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« Reply #651 on: November 07, 2009, 11:31:08 AM »

I can't give any personal accounts from Donaghy, because his book will now not be published.  However, since I am unemployeed, I spend parts of my day watching ESPN.  Last week there was a lot of discussion concerning Donaghy's book and how currupt NBA officials can be.
I don't consider sports commentators to be valid sources. Regarding the topic of officials determining winners, I just don't see it. Can you make a case for this, citing examples?
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« Reply #652 on: November 07, 2009, 01:08:50 PM »

I can't prove the few cases listed below, but here are some which come to mind.  I should note that I don't believe these games/matches were fixed, but I do believe (whether consciously or unconsciously) the refs were helping one team/fighter win over another.

*Super Bowl XL
*MMA fight in Britian.  UFC 75.  Michael Bisping (British) vs. Matt Hamill (American).  From wikipedia:
On September 8, 2007 Bisping faced former Ultimate Fighter 3 rival Matt Hamill in London, England and won a controversial split decision after 3 rounds. Hamill pushed the pace and took Bisping down numerous times in the first two rounds, with Bisping hitting solid strikes and blocking numerous takedown attempts towards the end of the second and in the third round. One judge scored 29-28 for Bisping, another 30-27 for Hamill and the split decision of 29-28 for Bisping as the winner. The American crowd blamed the result on being in Bisping's home country, however the lone British judge voted for Hamill while both American judges scored for Bisping.
You can watch the fight at mma-core.com (just use the search engine)
*MMA fight.  UFC 104. Lyoto Machida (Champion) vs. Mauricio Rua (challenger).  From wikipedia:
At UFC 104 Rua lost a controversial unanimous decision to UFC light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida. All three judges scored the bout 48-47 in favor of Machida in the fight. According to Judge Peoples, the judges favored Machida because he was considered to "land the more damaging strikes throughout the fight" and be the more 'effective aggressor".[21] UFC President Dana White criticized the judging and stated during the post-fight press conference that he was "ready to make the rematch as fast as we can". [22] The rematch will be held at an unannounced date. [23]
You can watch the fight at mma-core.com (just use the search engine).
Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. 
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« Reply #653 on: November 07, 2009, 06:40:12 PM »

Okay, I know that you're a fan of MMA, but it's not exactly a professional sport, at least not on the level of football, baseball, golf, or tennis. So I would expect that the referees would be less professional. What about Super Bowl XL do you feel was unfair? Please keep in mind that I didn't see it.
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« Reply #654 on: November 07, 2009, 11:41:23 PM »

I see Penn State choked again when it came to a big game. *shakes head* I actually fell asleep during the game.  Watching Strikeforce now. Seems that a vocal minority of fans want a kickboxing match, not MMA.
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« Reply #655 on: November 07, 2009, 11:47:28 PM »

Okay, I know that you're a fan of MMA, but it's not exactly a professional sport, at least not on the level of football, baseball, golf, or tennis. So I would expect that the referees would be less professional. What about Super Bowl XL do you feel was unfair? Please keep in mind that I didn't see it.
I do remember watching the game (Super Bowl XL) and hearing the commentary on how the Steelers benefited from a number of controversial calls in their win over the Seahawks.
  • Offensive pass interference call that nullified a Seattle TD and forced them to settle for a FG.
  • Ben Roethlisberger's TD on a 1-yd QB sneak after video review was not conclusive to prove that he did NOT carry the football across the plane of the goal.
  • Seahawk QB Matt Hasselbeck getting flagged for a low block on a Steeler interception return, a call NFL officials admitted a few months later was wrong
(much of the above recalled from my own memories of the game, but with some augmentation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XL)

However, as disappointed as I was with the Seahawks' loss, being the Northwesterner I am, and with what I perceived to be poor officiating, the thought did not cross my mind that the officials were actually trying to help the Steelers win, which is what coptic orthodox boy is alleging.  I just thought the officiating was sub-par for such an important game.  To me, it's one thing to recognize obviously bad officiating--good officials sometimes make terribly bad judgment calls, just ask Don Denkinger--, but to draw the conclusion that the officials are actually trying to help a team win is a judgment of motive that requires extensive evidence to prove.
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« Reply #656 on: November 07, 2009, 11:55:30 PM »

Well, so go the Ducks. Sad  One week after beating USC in impressive fashion, they lose at Stanford 42-51.  Give Stanford FB Owen Marecic, a graduate from our local Jesuit high school, credit, though.  His blocking was key to RB Toby Gerhart's 223 yards rushing on 38 carries.  Marecic even played the first quarter at middle linebacker in place of an injured first-stringer but was pulled shortly after playing out of position on a long Duck TD run.
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« Reply #657 on: November 08, 2009, 12:11:16 AM »

Fedor won with a strong right hand Smiley
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« Reply #658 on: November 08, 2009, 12:18:59 AM »

Fedor won with a strong right hand Smiley

Great fight!
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« Reply #659 on: November 08, 2009, 12:19:50 AM »

Okay, I know that you're a fan of MMA, but it's not exactly a professional sport, at least not on the level of football, baseball, golf, or tennis. So I would expect that the referees would be less professional. What about Super Bowl XL do you feel was unfair? Please keep in mind that I didn't see it.
I do remember watching the game (Super Bowl XL) and hearing the commentary on how the Steelers benefited from a number of controversial calls in their win over the Seahawks.
  • Offensive pass interference call that nullified a Seattle TD and forced them to settle for a FG.
  • Ben Roethlisberger's TD on a 1-yd QB sneak after video review was not conclusive to prove that he did NOT carry the football across the plane of the goal.
  • Seahawk QB Matt Hasselbeck getting flagged for a low block on a Steeler interception return, a call NFL officials admitted a few months later was wrong
(much of the above recalled from my own memories of the game, but with some augmentation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XL)

However, as disappointed as I was with the Seahawks' loss, being the Northwesterner I am, and with what I perceived to be poor officiating, the thought did not cross my mind that the officials were actually trying to help the Steelers win, which is what coptic orthodox boy is alleging.  I just thought the officiating was sub-par for such an important game.  To me, it's one thing to recognize obviously bad officiating--good officials sometimes make terribly bad judgment calls, just ask Don Denkinger--, but to draw the conclusion that the officials are actually trying to help a team win is a judgment of motive that requires extensive evidence to prove.
Okay, those sound like bad calls, based upon my limited understanding of the rules of American football. My point is, though, that the officials' made a bad call alone does not lose a game. For instance, the low block call did not cause the Steelers to intercept the football. The interception would have occurred even with a good call, and was entirely Hasselback's doing. One hopes for good officiating, especially in a championship game, but mistakes do happen, especially in a game like American football, which contains a lot of action in a short amount of time.
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« Reply #660 on: November 08, 2009, 12:26:13 AM »

Okay, I know that you're a fan of MMA, but it's not exactly a professional sport, at least not on the level of football, baseball, golf, or tennis. So I would expect that the referees would be less professional. What about Super Bowl XL do you feel was unfair? Please keep in mind that I didn't see it.
I do remember watching the game (Super Bowl XL) and hearing the commentary on how the Steelers benefited from a number of controversial calls in their win over the Seahawks.
  • Offensive pass interference call that nullified a Seattle TD and forced them to settle for a FG.
  • Ben Roethlisberger's TD on a 1-yd QB sneak after video review was not conclusive to prove that he did NOT carry the football across the plane of the goal.
  • Seahawk QB Matt Hasselbeck getting flagged for a low block on a Steeler interception return, a call NFL officials admitted a few months later was wrong
(much of the above recalled from my own memories of the game, but with some augmentation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XL)

However, as disappointed as I was with the Seahawks' loss, being the Northwesterner I am, and with what I perceived to be poor officiating, the thought did not cross my mind that the officials were actually trying to help the Steelers win, which is what coptic orthodox boy is alleging.  I just thought the officiating was sub-par for such an important game.  To me, it's one thing to recognize obviously bad officiating--good officials sometimes make terribly bad judgment calls, just ask Don Denkinger--, but to draw the conclusion that the officials are actually trying to help a team win is a judgment of motive that requires extensive evidence to prove.
Okay, those sound like bad calls, based upon my limited understanding of the rules of American football. My point is, though, that the officials' made a bad call alone does not lose a game. For instance, the low block call did not cause the Steelers to intercept the football. The interception would have occurred even with a good call, and was entirely Hasselback's doing.
The interception occurred even before the bad call, further confirming your assessment.
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« Reply #661 on: November 08, 2009, 12:34:55 AM »

Tomorrow on CBS, Fedor Emelianenko will be fighting at 9:00/8:00 C.  For any interested in seeing one of, if not the best MMA fighter live in action, tune in.
(A highlight video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVVrNOQtlzY

 Fedor is one the meanest and baddest MMA fighters I've seen in quite a while.  And though it'll never happen, I'd love to see him and Mike Tyson go just one round.  The thing is though, you're only the baddest for a while; there's always someone hungrier than you.
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« Reply #662 on: November 08, 2009, 01:10:40 AM »

Who did Cincinnati defeat to be #5 (soon to be #4) in the BCS Rankings?

How can you be #4 in the BCS and give up 45 points to UConn?   Huh
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« Reply #663 on: November 08, 2009, 02:13:38 AM »

Who did Cincinnati defeat to be #5 (soon to be #4) in the BCS Rankings?

How can you be #4 in the BCS and give up 45 points to UConn?   Huh
1.  Cincinnati only gave up 45 today.
2.  The BCS standings that would take account of their win today haven't come out yet, so Cincinnati is not yet up to #4.  Your assumption that they will move up has therefore not come to fruition yet.
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« Reply #664 on: November 08, 2009, 02:14:52 AM »

Who did Cincinnati defeat to be #5 (soon to be #4) in the BCS Rankings?

How can you be #4 in the BCS and give up 45 points to UConn?   Huh
1.  Cincinnati only gave up 45 today.
2.  The BCS standings that would take account of their win today haven't come out yet, so Cincinnati is not yet up to #4.  Your assumption that they will move up has therefore not come to fruition yet.
Shhh. You'll ruin his conception that the BCS standings are made up in a smoke-filled room. Grin
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« Reply #665 on: November 08, 2009, 02:56:23 AM »

Perhaps your complaint has more to do with your team's lack of commitment to winning than in anything the Yankees are doing?

Besides the Orioles (26 years and counting), how about the other 15 teams who haven't been to a World Series since 2000 - there is no commitment to winning?

Angelos has plenty of money to spend on the Orioles. He used to spend it---back in the 1990s. Baltimore used to get into bidding wars with the Yankees on free agents---I remember Angelos almost stealing David Cone from the Yanks back in 1995.

But now Angelos wants to keep his money and field a lousy team. Blame Angelos for that, not the Steinbrenners.
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« Reply #666 on: November 08, 2009, 11:44:06 AM »

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Fedor is one the meanest and baddest MMA fighters I've seen in quite a while.  And though it'll never happen, I'd love to see him and Mike Tyson go just one round.  The thing is though, you're only the baddest for a while; there's always someone hungrier than you.

Both fighters in their prime, Tyson would lose in a MMA fight; Emelianenko would lose in a boxing match (Fedor's striking can be considered very "wild", but in MMA very effective).  No doubt Fedor will one day lose but I think it will be due to age catching up with him and not a lack of heart.  If you listen to objective fans/analysts you can see the holes in Fedor's game (looping punches for example); and still Fedor's opponents cannot defeat him.
The most impressive thing for me is that Fedor doesn't cut weight.  He is a chubby fellow (though as strong as a bear) only standing 5'11 and weighing around 230 pounds.  Most light heavy weight fighters are around 6'1 and cut from 230 pounds to 205 pounds (take, for example, my avatar; Mauricio Rua is 6'1 and walks around at 228 pounds).  And even with his height and weight disadvantage, he is defeating heavyweight fighters who are around 6'3 and usually cut weight to make 265 pounds (no doubt Rogers came into that fight around 275-280 pounds).   
The card was good.  Still, I do miss PrideFC so very much lol.
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« Reply #667 on: November 08, 2009, 01:45:55 PM »


And for all they spent, they didn't even make the playoffs last year. In fact, before this one, they hadn't been to a World Series since 2001, and then they were defeated by the Diamondbacks, a team that had only been in existence for four years. It seems the Yankees' strategy isn't terribly successful.

If by "not successful" you mean "highest marketing revenue, highest average attendance and total attendance for years, best worldwide brand recognition amongst MLB teams, and more championships than second and third place (on the WS titles list) combined," then yes, their strategy isn't terribly successful.
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« Reply #668 on: November 08, 2009, 01:48:00 PM »

Yup.  The Red Sox have won more World Series titles since 2000 than the Yankees.

Largely because of their spending.  The teams that have the most money (NYY, Mets, Sox, Dodgers) go after the established talent and generally land it because they are able to pay more for it, which gives them  a competitive edge.  Are people really debating this?
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« Reply #669 on: November 08, 2009, 10:04:03 PM »

ROLL  JUUUUUULLLLIOOOOO  ROLL!!!

http://rollcrimsontide.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=34812
(Scroll down a little bit to see the highlight of Julio Jones racing 73 yards for the winning TD against LSU! Beautiful, simply beautiful!)

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« Reply #670 on: November 08, 2009, 10:52:22 PM »

Who did Cincinnati defeat to be #5 (soon to be #4) in the BCS Rankings?

How can you be #4 in the BCS and give up 45 points to UConn?   Huh
1.  Cincinnati only gave up 45 today.
2.  The BCS standings that would take account of their win today haven't come out yet, so Cincinnati is not yet up to #4.  Your assumption that they will move up has therefore not come to fruition yet.
Shhh. You'll ruin his conception that the BCS standings are made up in a smoke-filled room. Grin

The same smoke-filled room which decided that the Cincy "Bearcats" and TCU "Horned Frogs" were the "outsiders" with a chance to play for the BCS Championship.   Wink
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« Reply #671 on: November 08, 2009, 11:01:55 PM »

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I remember an episode of the X-Files where the cigarette smoking man and those like him were deciding such things. You don't wanna mess with those guys  Tongue

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« Reply #672 on: November 08, 2009, 11:30:45 PM »

According to latest BCS Rankings, TCU is #4.

Hop Horned Frogs, Hop
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« Reply #673 on: November 10, 2009, 12:35:01 AM »

Worst mascot in the league? Perhaps. But we still won tonight!

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« Reply #674 on: November 10, 2009, 06:46:43 PM »

GMs pass on expanding instant replay

Because getting the call right isn't as important as saving 10 minutes in game time. Of course, batters are free to scratch themselves as much as they want, and re-wrap their batting gloves for the third time. And pitchers can take their time as well, we can't rush them. Roll Eyes

EDIT--Just a note, my reaction isn't so much to this particular story, but the general vibe I get from those in charge of baseball in general on this issue.
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