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« Reply #5265 on: June 17, 2013, 11:25:42 AM »
I still don't understand why you are being so flippantly dismissive. Just putting a stat out there,  you can do the math yourself.

Now I'm onto to the next post...

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« Reply #5266 on: June 17, 2013, 11:40:46 AM »
I still don't understand why you are being so flippantly dismissive. Just putting a stat out there,  you can do the math yourself.

Now I'm onto to the next post...

Don't let Sportscenter eat away at your brain.

Sheesh, I was looking for a simple record of previous finals in a simple table to do some analysis for achronos to show this is a BS stat, found nothing, but someone else did something similar:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/11/4419160/nba-finals-history-spurs-heat
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« Reply #5267 on: June 17, 2013, 11:50:50 AM »
I guess you could also say that the only team to lose a series after winning game one on the road and game three at home since the 2-3-2 is the Miami Heat.

Too bad they can't play themselves.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5268 on: June 17, 2013, 04:12:27 PM »
I still don't understand why you are being so flippantly dismissive. Just putting a stat out there,  you can do the math yourself.
You can play "My stat is bigger than your stat" all you want, Achronos, but it ain't going to help your Spurs win this series.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5269 on: June 17, 2013, 04:41:42 PM »
Y'all remember how the University of Louisville won the NCAA Tournament? Well we're going to the World Series, too! And that's on top of winning the Sugar Bowl in football and reaching the championship game of the Women's Basketball Tournament.

Louisville clearly has the best athletic program of any college in America.
Heh, heh! Maybe my Oregon State Beavers will meet your Cardinals in the winners' bracket Game 7. GO BEAVS!
Meh, I guess it's in the losers' bracket that they meet.
Sorry, William, but it looks as if your Cardinals are going to be the first team to go two-and-out in the CWS. We're not even half way into the first elimination game, and the Beavers already lead 10-0. Your fielders giving up 7 unearned runs on 4 errors ain't helping.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5270 on: June 17, 2013, 06:26:06 PM »
I still don't understand why you are being so flippantly dismissive. Just putting a stat out there,  you can do the math yourself.
You can play "My stat is bigger than your stat" all you want, Achronos, but it ain't going to help your Spurs win this series.
Didn't say it was gonna help.

You got a warped view of my posts, Peter.

Now answer the real question:

What is your favorite NBA team?
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5271 on: June 17, 2013, 06:32:29 PM »
I still don't understand why you are being so flippantly dismissive. Just putting a stat out there,  you can do the math yourself.
You can play "My stat is bigger than your stat" all you want, Achronos, but it ain't going to help your Spurs win this series.
Didn't say it was gonna help.

You got a warped view of my posts, Peter.
Yes, they are warped, aren't they? ;) I'm not the one who posts a running commentary about every NBA Finals game as he's watching it.

Now answer the real question:
How is that a real question?

What is your favorite NBA team?
If I told you, I'd have to kill you. ;)
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5272 on: June 17, 2013, 06:33:22 PM »
Y'all remember how the University of Louisville won the NCAA Tournament? Well we're going to the World Series, too! And that's on top of winning the Sugar Bowl in football and reaching the championship game of the Women's Basketball Tournament.

Louisville clearly has the best athletic program of any college in America.
Heh, heh! Maybe my Oregon State Beavers will meet your Cardinals in the winners' bracket Game 7. GO BEAVS!
Meh, I guess it's in the losers' bracket that they meet.
Sorry, William, but it looks as if your Cardinals are going to be the first team to go two-and-out in the CWS. We're not even half way into the first elimination game, and the Beavers already lead 10-0. Your fielders giving up 7 unearned runs on 4 errors ain't helping.
Well, that's over. Oregon State 11, Louisville 4. Bye bye, birdies.
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« Reply #5273 on: June 17, 2013, 06:36:35 PM »
Is it the Lakers?

The Celtics?

The Trailblazers?

Or the defunct SuperSonics?

Don't worry I won't think your opinions are bias at all. Judging from your top players picks, they are anything but.

Don't know what the big secret is.

Maybe it's the Charlotte BobcatsHornets!
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« Reply #5274 on: June 17, 2013, 06:40:49 PM »
He doesn't want to say because he's hiding a terrible secret. Here is a pic of his favorite player on his favorite team:

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« Reply #5275 on: June 17, 2013, 06:43:41 PM »
Peter likes them flopping as hard as the sardines out of orthornom's can

Poop can actually.
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« Reply #5276 on: June 17, 2013, 06:56:33 PM »
Y'all remember how the University of Louisville won the NCAA Tournament? Well we're going to the World Series, too! And that's on top of winning the Sugar Bowl in football and reaching the championship game of the Women's Basketball Tournament.

Louisville clearly has the best athletic program of any college in America.
Heh, heh! Maybe my Oregon State Beavers will meet your Cardinals in the winners' bracket Game 7. GO BEAVS!
Meh, I guess it's in the losers' bracket that they meet.
Sorry, William, but it looks as if your Cardinals are going to be the first team to go two-and-out in the CWS. We're not even half way into the first elimination game, and the Beavers already lead 10-0. Your fielders giving up 7 unearned runs on 4 errors ain't helping.
Well, that's over. Oregon State 11, Louisville 4. Bye bye, birdies.

I didn't see the game because I thought it would be on later tonight. But looking at that score...wow. Terrible end for the season especially after the awful game on Saturday. We are bad.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5277 on: June 18, 2013, 09:20:35 PM »
2003 Tim Duncan is playing right now.

And it owns.
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« Reply #5278 on: June 18, 2013, 09:22:38 PM »
OMG HOW DID DUNCAN MAKE THAT SHOT?!?!!?!!?!?

UNREAL
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« Reply #5279 on: June 18, 2013, 09:23:35 PM »
Battier with the BS 3.
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« Reply #5280 on: June 18, 2013, 09:24:05 PM »
US vs. Honduras
World Cup qualifier
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And no one's winning
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« Reply #5281 on: June 18, 2013, 09:28:42 PM »
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5282 on: June 18, 2013, 09:38:02 PM »
Battier with the BS 3.
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« Reply #5283 on: June 18, 2013, 10:04:28 PM »
Should I get one?

And I want Duncan's autograph
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« Reply #5284 on: June 18, 2013, 10:06:42 PM »
Hey orthonorm. The over/under on Duncan's points this game was 18.5. He crushed that in just the first half.
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« Reply #5285 on: June 18, 2013, 10:27:21 PM »
Hey orthonorm. The over/under on Duncan's points this game was 18.5. He crushed that in just the first half.

Must be all the D&D.
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« Reply #5286 on: June 18, 2013, 10:27:43 PM »
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaalllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5287 on: June 18, 2013, 10:37:59 PM »
Should I get one?
Yes. It's a more appropriate place for a running one-liner commentary on an NBA Finals game than OC.net.
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« Reply #5288 on: June 18, 2013, 11:33:40 PM »
The Pittsburgh Trib is reporting that Letang is most likely gone, Fleury will most likely stay, and Iginla might sign. Another interesting story was on how the Malkin deal was done, in which they talked about how Crosby was fine with Malkin making more (as far as the cap goes), and Malkin was willing to structure his contract so that the Pens would continue to have financial flexibility in keeping/adding supporting players. Good deal.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5289 on: June 19, 2013, 12:10:31 AM »
Down 10 with 12 minutes to go...
Down 5 with less than 30 seconds to go...
The all-time leader in career 3-pointers made ties the game with a 3 with 5 seconds left to force OT.
The fifth best free throw shooter of all time (the same guy) puts his team up 3 with two clutch free throws inside the final second of OT.
LeBron scores another triple-double with 32 points, 11 assists, and 10 rebounds.

Miami Heat 103, San Antonio Spurs 100 (OT)

Next up: Game 7 for all the marbles.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5290 on: June 19, 2013, 12:16:57 AM »
Lebron James can thank Ray Allen for averting the "choke" label in Game 6.  Kawhi Leonard choked for missing the first free throw that would've won championship #5 for the Spurs.

With the Big 3 of the Spurs old and done, I think James explodes for 50 in Game 7 and silences his detractors once and for all with his second championship.

PS: Even if James explodes for 50, I hope I'm wrong and that the Spurs Big 3 have one "final" game left in the tank.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5291 on: June 19, 2013, 01:16:15 AM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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« Reply #5292 on: June 19, 2013, 01:35:18 AM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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I don't have the energy to break out your comments, so I'll address them in general (I nearly took a bar apart in the last 8 minutes of the game).

Yeah, I don't understand why the Spurs didn't foul then.

Lebron has lived down to your expectations most of this series. He has been "soft" beyond belief and it is embarrassing. Worse is his entitled looks for fouls. Tonight with just minutes left in a likely loss he sat on the floor yelling for a foul while the Spurs drove the ball up the court. I would (wow I actually cursed there) have a long and spirited talk about his seeming attempts to merely draw fouls without driving for the shot then getting back on defense.

Given the fact I nearly killed people tonight over this game (a lot of non basketball fans showed up at the bar to cheer against Lebron or just keep whining about fouls which nearly started a race war), I am not sure you can count San Antonio out. One thing is certain, they played a great game tonight and the Heat didn't, and the Spurs lost.

But I could see the Spurs winning game seven. The have better coaching. Deeper pool of talent and experience. It's Miami's series to lose and what I saw tonight wasn't too reassuring. San Antonio ain't gonna be shook like Miami seems capable of.

I wouldn't bet on the next game give the odds right now. I wouldn't've bet tonight either.

Lebron for his own sense of sanity better pull off an amazing performance in game seven win or lose.

So Gebre, let's say Lebron closes game seven huge with a win, who does the series MVP go to?

Could you be looking at the losing squad getting an MVP nod? Green or Duncan?

I don't see how Lebron earns it, unless maybe he single handedly wins game seven in a close out manner.


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« Reply #5293 on: June 19, 2013, 01:43:05 AM »
Rules? Baseball don't need no stinkin rules!
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5294 on: June 19, 2013, 01:49:23 AM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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I don't have the energy to break out your comments, so I'll address them in general (I nearly took a bar apart in the last 8 minutes of the game).

Yeah, I don't understand why the Spurs didn't foul then.

Lebron has lived down to your expectations most of this series. He has been "soft" beyond belief and it is embarrassing. Worse is his entitled looks for fouls. Tonight with just minutes left in a likely loss he sat on the floor yelling for a foul while the Spurs drove the ball up the court. I would (wow I actually cursed there) have a long and spirited talk about his seeming attempts to merely draw fouls without driving for the shot then getting back on defense.

Given the fact I nearly killed people tonight over this game (a lot of non basketball fans showed up at the bar to cheer against Lebron or just keep whining about fouls which nearly started a race war), I am not sure you can count San Antonio out. One thing is certain, they played a great game tonight and the Heat didn't, and the Spurs lost.

But I could see the Spurs winning game seven. The have better coaching. Deeper pool of talent and experience. It's Miami's series to lose and what I saw tonight wasn't too reassuring. San Antonio ain't gonna be shook like Miami seems capable of.

I wouldn't bet on the next game give the odds right now. I wouldn't've bet tonight either.

Lebron for his own sense of sanity better pull off an amazing performance in game seven win or lose.

So Gebre, let's say Lebron closes game seven huge with a win, who does the series MVP go to?

Could you be looking at the losing squad getting an MVP nod? Green or Duncan?

I don't see how Lebron earns it, unless maybe he single handedly wins game seven in a close out manner.





Good thoughts brother. Do I dare say we agree in our assessment?

If Lebron dominates game 7 then I give him the MVP of the series. His performance in tonight's fourth quarter was excellent. If he plays four quarters like that in game 7, then those combined 5 quarters will have been the difference in the series. So I'd give it to him.

But even if the Spurs lose, I'm convinced that Tim Duncan is a better player than Lebron. At least right now. Lebron has lots of years left and he'll only get better. But Duncan is much more consistent right now. I hope the Spurs will use him for four quarters in game 7 like they used him in the first two quarters of tonight's game.


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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5295 on: June 19, 2013, 02:13:36 AM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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I don't have the energy to break out your comments, so I'll address them in general (I nearly took a bar apart in the last 8 minutes of the game).

Yeah, I don't understand why the Spurs didn't foul then.

Lebron has lived down to your expectations most of this series. He has been "soft" beyond belief and it is embarrassing. Worse is his entitled looks for fouls. Tonight with just minutes left in a likely loss he sat on the floor yelling for a foul while the Spurs drove the ball up the court. I would (wow I actually cursed there) have a long and spirited talk about his seeming attempts to merely draw fouls without driving for the shot then getting back on defense.

Given the fact I nearly killed people tonight over this game (a lot of non basketball fans showed up at the bar to cheer against Lebron or just keep whining about fouls which nearly started a race war), I am not sure you can count San Antonio out. One thing is certain, they played a great game tonight and the Heat didn't, and the Spurs lost.

But I could see the Spurs winning game seven. The have better coaching. Deeper pool of talent and experience. It's Miami's series to lose and what I saw tonight wasn't too reassuring. San Antonio ain't gonna be shook like Miami seems capable of.

I wouldn't bet on the next game give the odds right now. I wouldn't've bet tonight either.

Lebron for his own sense of sanity better pull off an amazing performance in game seven win or lose.

So Gebre, let's say Lebron closes game seven huge with a win, who does the series MVP go to?

Could you be looking at the losing squad getting an MVP nod? Green or Duncan?

I don't see how Lebron earns it, unless maybe he single handedly wins game seven in a close out manner.





Good thoughts brother. Do I dare say we agree in our assessment?

If Lebron dominates game 7 then I give him the MVP of the series. His performance in tonight's fourth quarter was excellent. If he plays four quarters like that in game 7, then those combined 5 quarters will have been the difference in the series. So I'd give it to him.

But even if the Spurs lose, I'm convinced that Tim Duncan is a better player than Lebron. At least right now. Lebron has lots of years left and he'll only get better. But Duncan is much more consistent right now. I hope the Spurs will use him for four quarters in game 7 like they used him in the first two quarters of tonight's game.


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From a raw statistical analysis, Lebron is simply the best player in the series, but I am not sure if that necessarily translates immediately into being an MVP, as counter-intuitive as that sounds.

I think leadership and how someone handles themselves on the court and some other so-called intangibles should be considered and can't help but be considered.

I dunno, I just don't like Lebron's attitude during this series and wouldn't mind seeing the Heat take the series and give Duncan the MVP. He is implacable, honest, and humble.  A real sportsman along with being the real center of the team on the court rather than Lebron who is at best a catalyst and sometime leader. He is only 28 which I constantly find myself reminding people of. I don't know what they expected from a 25 year old when he moved to Miami or even a 28 year old in terms of team leadership.

Given his absurd talent, absurd remuneration for that talent, he has held it together as well as any young person I imagine could.

Stats are going to lead you to Lebron in nearly any series, as he is simply the greatest basketball player alive.

Part of me would like to see Duncan get some accolade and perhaps take a little from Lebron. Unlike the haters I was around tonight, I think it would be good for him in the long run and the league to recognize the consistency of character, poise, and performance of Duncan.

Then boot that straw man of a coach in Miami and get someone who can coach Lebron and really develop him into the potential he has to become the sort of presence Duncan is on the court. If can't coach your star, you can't coach anyone else.

I am wired and tired, so with a grain of salt.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5296 on: June 19, 2013, 02:46:35 AM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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I don't have the energy to break out your comments, so I'll address them in general (I nearly took a bar apart in the last 8 minutes of the game).

Yeah, I don't understand why the Spurs didn't foul then.

Lebron has lived down to your expectations most of this series. He has been "soft" beyond belief and it is embarrassing. Worse is his entitled looks for fouls. Tonight with just minutes left in a likely loss he sat on the floor yelling for a foul while the Spurs drove the ball up the court. I would (wow I actually cursed there) have a long and spirited talk about his seeming attempts to merely draw fouls without driving for the shot then getting back on defense.

Given the fact I nearly killed people tonight over this game (a lot of non basketball fans showed up at the bar to cheer against Lebron or just keep whining about fouls which nearly started a race war), I am not sure you can count San Antonio out. One thing is certain, they played a great game tonight and the Heat didn't, and the Spurs lost.

But I could see the Spurs winning game seven. The have better coaching. Deeper pool of talent and experience. It's Miami's series to lose and what I saw tonight wasn't too reassuring. San Antonio ain't gonna be shook like Miami seems capable of.

I wouldn't bet on the next game give the odds right now. I wouldn't've bet tonight either.

Lebron for his own sense of sanity better pull off an amazing performance in game seven win or lose.

So Gebre, let's say Lebron closes game seven huge with a win, who does the series MVP go to?

Could you be looking at the losing squad getting an MVP nod? Green or Duncan?

I don't see how Lebron earns it, unless maybe he single handedly wins game seven in a close out manner.





Good thoughts brother. Do I dare say we agree in our assessment?

If Lebron dominates game 7 then I give him the MVP of the series. His performance in tonight's fourth quarter was excellent. If he plays four quarters like that in game 7, then those combined 5 quarters will have been the difference in the series. So I'd give it to him.

But even if the Spurs lose, I'm convinced that Tim Duncan is a better player than Lebron. At least right now. Lebron has lots of years left and he'll only get better. But Duncan is much more consistent right now. I hope the Spurs will use him for four quarters in game 7 like they used him in the first two quarters of tonight's game.


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From a raw statistical analysis, Lebron is simply the best player in the series, but I am not sure if that necessarily translates immediately into being an MVP, as counter-intuitive as that sounds.

I think leadership and how someone handles themselves on the court and some other so-called intangibles should be considered and can't help but be considered.

I dunno, I just don't like Lebron's attitude during this series and wouldn't mind seeing the Heat take the series and give Duncan the MVP. He is implacable, honest, and humble.  A real sportsman along with being the real center of the team on the court rather than Lebron who is at best a catalyst and sometime leader. He is only 28 which I constantly find myself reminding people of. I don't know what they expected from a 25 year old when he moved to Miami or even a 28 year old in terms of team leadership.

Given his absurd talent, absurd remuneration for that talent, he has held it together as well as any young person I imagine could.

Stats are going to lead you to Lebron in nearly any series, as he is simply the greatest basketball player alive.

Part of me would like to see Duncan get some accolade and perhaps take a little from Lebron. Unlike the haters I was around tonight, I think it would be good for him in the long run and the league to recognize the consistency of character, poise, and performance of Duncan.

Then boot that straw man of a coach in Miami and get someone who can coach Lebron and really develop him into the potential he has to become the sort of presence Duncan is on the court. If can't coach your star, you can't coach anyone else.

I am wired and tired, so with a grain of salt.

You must be tired and out of your mind, because I actually agree with everything you said. Get some sleep and tomorrow you'll realize once again how wrong I am.  ;)


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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5297 on: June 19, 2013, 07:10:36 AM »
Miami Heat fans are the worst. How do you leave a game like that?

I'm still trying to catch up.

Lebron looks gassed in the post game interview.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5298 on: June 19, 2013, 07:24:45 AM »
Miami Heat fans are the worst. How do you leave a game like that?

I'm still trying to catch up.

Lebron looks gassed in the post game interview.

One of the many reasons I don't like the Heat. Soft, soft, soft. Miami fans may be softer than Laker fans. I guess no matter how exciting the game is, when the coke wears off they have to bail to get another fix.


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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5299 on: June 19, 2013, 10:39:17 AM »
I hate sports but I felt like mentioning that my cousin went to prom with Kobe Bryant's cousin, and Kobe Bryant was there too with his date Brandy. They're all in a picture together and Brandy looks like an alien as usual.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5300 on: June 19, 2013, 12:34:49 PM »
"Update: NBC Miami got footage of disappointed fans leaving, and interviewed actual Miami fans depressed that their team did not rise to the occasion because they were unaware the Heat had actually won the game. It's as amazing as it sounds."
Heat vs. Spurs: Miami fans leave Game 6 early, miss incredible ending
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/19/4443978/heat-spurs-fans-leave-early-nba-finals-2013

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFL!!!!!!!!

They do not deserve this team at all.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5301 on: June 19, 2013, 12:41:29 PM »
Should I get one?
Yes. It's a more appropriate place for a running one-liner commentary on an NBA Finals game than OC.net.

No, I think it is pretty awesome.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5302 on: June 19, 2013, 12:43:53 PM »
"Update: NBC Miami got footage of disappointed fans leaving, and interviewed actual Miami fans depressed that their team did not rise to the occasion because they were unaware the Heat had actually won the game. It's as amazing as it sounds."
Heat vs. Spurs: Miami fans leave Game 6 early, miss incredible ending
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/19/4443978/heat-spurs-fans-leave-early-nba-finals-2013

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFL!!!!!!!!

They do not deserve this team at all.

I was behind enemy lines and folks were trying to get me to leave. I held down the fort and again nearly killed people.

The fans leaving is ridiculous but those people ain't the fans. People who can afford to attend any NBA games on a regular basis ain't the fan base of any team.

Good grief, look at the complexion of the people.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5303 on: June 19, 2013, 01:06:39 PM »
Hey orthonorm. The over/under on Duncan's points this game was 18.5. He crushed that in just the first half.

Must be all the D&D.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5304 on: June 19, 2013, 03:15:36 PM »
"Update: NBC Miami got footage of disappointed fans leaving, and interviewed actual Miami fans depressed that their team did not rise to the occasion because they were unaware the Heat had actually won the game. It's as amazing as it sounds."
Heat vs. Spurs: Miami fans leave Game 6 early, miss incredible ending
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/19/4443978/heat-spurs-fans-leave-early-nba-finals-2013

ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFL!!!!!!!!

They do not deserve this team at all.

I was behind enemy lines and folks were trying to get me to leave. I held down the fort and again nearly killed people.

The fans leaving is ridiculous but those people ain't the fans. People who can afford to attend any NBA games on a regular basis ain't the fan base of any team.

Good grief, look at the complexion of the people.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5305 on: June 19, 2013, 04:08:47 PM »
Dang! That was a tough loss. Great game though by both teams. Excellent basketball on both sides. Congrats to the Heat on pulling that one out. I'm afraid the Spurs needed to win this one. But they've proven they can come back from every loss. So we'll see. Hope they can do it.

Popovich has to own this loss. Spurs should have fouled when they were up by three with 29 seconds left. All they had to do was prevent a 3 pointer or a "and one." But they didn't foul and the Heat got the three they needed in the waning seconds.

Popovich will be questioned for sticking with Ginobli. But I can live with that decision. Ginobli played poorly, but he is one of the Spurs best players and Popovich had confidence in him. More questionable was why the Spurs got away from Duncan in the second half. He dominated in the first half. But no reason for the Spurs to blow a five point lead that late in regulation.

Lebron decided to play like a man in the fourth quarter. Which once again begs the question: why doesn't he play like that all the time? Even if the Heat win game 7 and Lebron scores 50, that still won't negate a lot of warranted criticism of Lebron and the Heat. They have continued to underachieve, and I continue to call them soft.

But that was a great basketball game all the way around. One of the best NBA games I've ever seen. Congrats to Miami on pulling out a tremendous victory. I think they win game 7 easily. Spurs needed to close it out tonight, and they blew it. I don't see them bouncing back from this one. But one thing about this series is that it's completely unpredictable. So I shouldn't count them out.


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Funny how when LeBron doesn't score as much as expected, most people blame him for choking or "not playing like a man" and give no credit to the tough defense played against him.
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5306 on: June 19, 2013, 07:02:04 PM »
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NBA confirms that Duncan was illegally substituted by the Spurs after Ray Allen 3 review. Wow. http://cbsprt.co/103pLjW
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« Reply #5307 on: June 19, 2013, 07:06:31 PM »
Hardwood Paroxysm ‏@HPbasketball 13m
NBA confirms that Duncan was illegally substituted by the Spurs after Ray Allen 3 review. Wow. http://cbsprt.co/103pLjW

Interesting.

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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5308 on: June 19, 2013, 07:07:36 PM »
I would like to say that this Ricky Davis video owns:

Ricky Davis Triple Double Ripoff - Ricky Davis misses a shot intentionally to get a handicapped triple double.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MezCclCSjNw&feature=player_embedded
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Re: The Sports Thread
« Reply #5309 on: June 19, 2013, 07:09:23 PM »
Phil Jackson @PhilJackson11
https://twitter.com/philjackson11/status/347485278434377728

Free throws; how one gets on the court in pick-up bball. How important is that, right Manu/Kawhi? I just had to lift shot up/over the belly

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