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« Reply #315 on: July 27, 2009, 12:25:17 PM »

We all know that Tiger is the best,
I dispute this. He fails to make the cut as often as he wins.

68 wins, 5 missed cuts....
I knew that was an exaggeration, but I didn't realize by how much. Still, he's not always in the lead or even within striking distance of it. There are many others just as good as he is.
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« Reply #316 on: July 27, 2009, 02:34:45 PM »

We all know that Tiger is the best,
I dispute this. He fails to make the cut as often as he wins.
Tiger Woods?  He who holds the record for most consecutive PGA tour events WITHOUT missing a cut?  Yeah, he did miss the cut at the most recent British Open, but that's quite rare for him.
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« Reply #317 on: July 27, 2009, 02:36:52 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin
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« Reply #318 on: July 27, 2009, 04:17:33 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
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« Reply #319 on: July 27, 2009, 05:10:30 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
Yup.  And this is the NL Central we're talking about, the division no one wants to win.
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« Reply #320 on: July 27, 2009, 05:41:51 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
Yeah. Remember that the last time we won the World Series, we squeaked into the playoffs, earning the wild card spot on the very last game of the season.

On the other hand, we can reminisce about a World Series win that occurred after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Grin
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« Reply #321 on: July 27, 2009, 11:30:13 PM »

We all know that Tiger is the best,
I dispute this. He fails to make the cut as often as he wins.

68 wins, 5 missed cuts....
I knew that was an exaggeration, but I didn't realize by how much. Still, he's not always in the lead or even within striking distance of it. There are many others just as good as he is.

Look, I'm not a Tiger Woods fan. Like I said earlier, I don't care for his unsportsmanlike demeanor on the golf course. But to say that there are many others just as good as Tiger is just silly. I have to respect his mental and physical ability. He will probably break Nicklaus's record for  all time Major wins before he's through. He's one of the most rare and special competitors that I've ever seen. I gotta give it to him.

But still, Vijay's my man. Smooth, classy, and underrated. Vijay has the prettiest golf swing I've ever seen.

But let's be objective and admit that Tiger stands alone.

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« Reply #322 on: July 28, 2009, 12:26:32 AM »

Tom Watson kept Nicklaus from having 22 or 23 Majors.  Perhaps Watson made Tiger's job easier in that regard.

I feel Tiger's career will be done at 35 because even a rebuilt knee can only withstand so much torque that Tiger generates with each swing.  Tiger doesn't have Watson's "smart man's" game.  While Tiger missed the cut at the Open Championship, Tom Watson, rebuilt hip and all, was 8 feet away from greater immortality....
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« Reply #323 on: July 28, 2009, 12:45:01 AM »

Tom Watson kept Nicklaus from having 22 or 23 Majors.  Perhaps Watson made Tiger's job easier in that regard.

I feel Tiger's career will be done at 35 because even a rebuilt knee can only withstand so much torque that Tiger generates with each swing.  Tiger doesn't have Watson's "smart man's" game.  While Tiger missed the cut at the Open Championship, Tom Watson, rebuilt hip and all, was 8 feet away from greater immortality....

I was rooting for Tom, as was most everyone. What an incredible Golf Tournament! But I felt good for Stewart Cink. He's come close so many times and I was happy to see him win a major.

I have to disagree with you about Tiger not having Watson's "smart man's" game. I think Tiger's intellect and poise under pressure is even more impressive than his physical attributes. But I do think he hurts himself with his unsportsmanlike antics on the course. And it's strange, because whenever he's interviewed - win or lose - he comes across with class and honor. But on the course he allows his temper to get the better of him. Time will tell if this one flaw keeps him from surpassing the Golden Bear.

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« Reply #324 on: July 28, 2009, 02:04:09 AM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
Yeah. Remember that the last time we won the World Series, we squeaked into the playoffs, earning the wild card spot on the very last game of the season.

On the other hand, we can reminisce about a World Series win that occurred after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Grin
Of course, some could say you guys won the World Series a few years ago only because the Tigers, particularly their pitchers' fielding, self-destructed.  Didn't the Tiger pitchers average more than an error per game in that series?
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« Reply #325 on: July 28, 2009, 02:37:46 AM »

Josh Willingham of the Washington Nationals hits two grand slams in a 14-6 rout of Milwaukee.  Only 18 pitchers have pitched perfect games, but only 13 players have hit two grand slams in one game, making the latter feat even more of a rarity.  (Prior to Fernando Tatis hitting two slams in one inning for the Cardinals 10 years ago, the only NL player to hit two grand slams in a game WAS a pitcher.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290727108&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
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« Reply #326 on: July 28, 2009, 02:42:42 AM »

Josh Willingham of the Washington Nationals hits two grand slams in a 14-6 rout of Milwaukee.  Only 18 pitchers have pitched perfect games, but only 13 players have hit two grand slams in one game, making the latter feat even more of a rarity.  (Prior to Fernando Tatis hitting two slams in one inning for the Cardinals 10 years ago, the only NL player to hit two grand slams in a game WAS a pitcher.)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290727108&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Talk about Fernando Tatis and grand slams:  I see that he hit a game winning pinch hit grand slam tonight, as well.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290727121
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« Reply #327 on: July 28, 2009, 05:31:43 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
Yeah. Remember that the last time we won the World Series, we squeaked into the playoffs, earning the wild card spot on the very last game of the season.

On the other hand, we can reminisce about a World Series win that occurred after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Grin
Of course, some could say you guys won the World Series a few years ago only because the Tigers, particularly their pitchers' fielding, self-destructed.  Didn't the Tiger pitchers average more than an error per game in that series?
Yes, and without in any way discrediting the remarkable achievements of the Red Sox, we lost the 2004 Series because we made eight errors in that four-game series. Funny thing is, though, that the '04 Cardinals were in many ways superior to the '06 team. I considered the '06 win making up for the disaster of '04. St. Louis is in my opinion, the most self-defeating team in the major leagues. It came as no surprise to me that we were #1 in blown saves last year.

But, lest you think our winning is just a fluke, let me remind you of all our World Series wins:
1926
1931
1934
1942
1944
1946
1964
1967
1982
2006

And of yours:
1907
1908
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« Reply #328 on: July 28, 2009, 06:15:17 PM »

THIS JUST IN:  Cubs overtake the Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Grin

Awwwww... well, it's not really a surprise, though.  They're the most self-defeating team I've ever seen.
Yeah. Remember that the last time we won the World Series, we squeaked into the playoffs, earning the wild card spot on the very last game of the season.

On the other hand, we can reminisce about a World Series win that occurred after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Grin
Of course, some could say you guys won the World Series a few years ago only because the Tigers, particularly their pitchers' fielding, self-destructed.  Didn't the Tiger pitchers average more than an error per game in that series?
Yes, and without in any way discrediting the remarkable achievements of the Red Sox, we lost the 2004 Series because we made eight errors in that four-game series. Funny thing is, though, that the '04 Cardinals were in many ways superior to the '06 team. I considered the '06 win making up for the disaster of '04. St. Louis is in my opinion, the most self-defeating team in the major leagues. It came as no surprise to me that we were #1 in blown saves last year.

But, lest you think our winning is just a fluke, let me remind you of all our World Series wins:
1926
1931
1934
1942
1944
1946
1964
1967
1982
2006

And of yours:
1907
1908
So what?  I've only been alive since 1971.
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« Reply #329 on: July 28, 2009, 07:16:30 PM »

Why are we discussing baseball in a thread about SPORTS?!
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« Reply #330 on: July 28, 2009, 08:36:36 PM »

Why are we discussing baseball in a thread about SPORTS?!

I'm kind of with you. I do think baseball is a sport, but I just can't get into it. And especially with the rampant steroid scandals, I just don't waste my time anymore. So let's get back to college football, international soccer, and other exciting things!

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« Reply #331 on: July 28, 2009, 08:43:24 PM »

Here's a question:

Who do you think are the three greatest athletes of all time, and why?

Here are my 3:

Pele

Muhammad Ali

Michael Jordan


And here are some of the criteria I use in my consideration:

-Raw atheletic ability
-Heart, effort, and determination
-The impact they had on their sport
-The impact they had on their society
-Championships and wins
-Statistics
-The quality of the competition they faced
-Character



I look forward to reading other opinions!

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« Reply #332 on: July 28, 2009, 10:37:21 PM »

Here's a question:

Who do you think are the three greatest athletes of all time, and why?
Spartacus. For all three.
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« Reply #333 on: July 29, 2009, 12:05:01 AM »

I was rooting for Tom, as was most everyone. What an incredible Golf Tournament! But I felt good for Stewart Cink. He's come close so many times and I was happy to see him win a major.

Cink deserved to win a major.  A little change of pace. 

I have to disagree with you about Tiger not having Watson's "smart man's" game. I think Tiger's intellect and poise under pressure is even more impressive than his physical attributes. But I do think he hurts himself with his unsportsmanlike antics on the course. And it's strange, because whenever he's interviewed - win or lose - he comes across with class and honor. But on the course he allows his temper to get the better of him. Time will tell if this one flaw keeps him from surpassing the Golden Bear.

I've never seen Tiger act unsportsmanlike on the course.  Any examples?
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I have to disagree with you about Tiger not having Watson's "smart man's" game. I think Tiger's intellect and poise under pressure is even more impressive than his physical attributes. But I do think he hurts himself with his unsportsmanlike antics on the course. And it's strange, because whenever he's interviewed - win or lose - he comes across with class and honor. But on the course he allows his temper to get the better of him. Time will tell if this one flaw keeps him from surpassing the Golden Bear.

I've never seen Tiger act unsportsmanlike on the course.  Any examples?

Well he hits the ground a lot with his clubs after he hits a poor shot. He also uses a lot of profanity. During the British Open some of the commentators even mentioned it a few times. They usually don't bring it up because of his popularity, but after he missed the cut they showed some highlights of his unportsmanlike behavior. A famous golfer who is retired even remarked about it publicly (I forget who now). He said that he is disappointed to see someone with so much talent act like that.

But look, Golf is a cruel sport so I can understand the frustration. If I played golf I'm sure I'd act a lot worse than Tiger. And he's not nearly as bad as Sergio Garcia is.

Tiger's caddy also irritates me. He's really obnoxious.

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« Reply #335 on: July 29, 2009, 03:45:10 AM »

Here's a question:

Who do you think are the three greatest athletes of all time, and why?

Here are my 3:

Pele

Muhammad Ali

Michael Jordan


And here are some of the criteria I use in my consideration:

-Raw atheletic ability
-Heart, effort, and determination
-The impact they had on their sport
-The impact they had on their society
-Championships and wins
-Statistics
-The quality of the competition they faced
-Character



I look forward to reading other opinions!

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Roman Šebrle, the world record holder in the decathlon, the ultimate track and field event for determining all-around athleticism:

Speed:  100 meters, 110 meter hurdles, 400 meters
Explosive strength:  shot put, discus, javelin
Jumping ability:  long jump, high jump
Agility:  110 meter hurdles, pole vault
Endurance:  1500 meters
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« Reply #336 on: July 29, 2009, 04:46:08 AM »

Here's a question:

Who do you think are the three greatest athletes of all time, and why?

Here are my 3:

Pele

Muhammad Ali

Michael Jordan


And here are some of the criteria I use in my consideration:

-Raw atheletic ability
-Heart, effort, and determination
-The impact they had on their sport
-The impact they had on their society
-Championships and wins
-Statistics
-The quality of the competition they faced
-Character



I look forward to reading other opinions!

Selam
Roman Šebrle, the world record holder in the decathlon, the ultimate track and field event for determining all-around athleticism:

Speed:  100 meters, 110 meter hurdles, 400 meters
Explosive strength:  shot put, discus, javelin
Jumping ability:  long jump, high jump
Agility:  110 meter hurdles, pole vault
Endurance:  1500 meters


Cool. Never heard of him. Where is he from and when did he compete?

After my the first three I already mentioned, I think I would put Jim Thorpe at number 4. He could do anything!

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« Reply #337 on: July 29, 2009, 08:20:38 AM »

Cool. Never heard of him. Where is he from and when did he compete?

He is from the Czech Republic, and he has competed since about the mid-90s until the present day.
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« Reply #338 on: August 14, 2009, 03:31:01 AM »

Please study and learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_football

There will be a test later...
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« Reply #339 on: August 14, 2009, 06:53:38 AM »

Actually I rather enjoy Canadian football.
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« Reply #340 on: August 17, 2009, 02:02:55 AM »

Tiger Woods just blew a lead on the final day to lose a major tournament!  First time in his PGA career he's ever done that.
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« Reply #341 on: August 17, 2009, 04:58:56 AM »

Tiger Woods just blew a lead on the final day to lose a major tournament!  First time in his PGA career he's ever done that.

Yeah, give a lot of credit to Y.E. Yang from South Korea. Not many people can go toe to toe with Tiger on the final day and come out on top.

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« Reply #342 on: August 17, 2009, 05:13:55 AM »

But the highlight of the weekend was...

USAIN BOLT! Usain Bolt, the Jamaican sprinter who won three Gold medals in the Beijing Olympics, shattered the world record Sunday in the 100 meter dash and posted a 9.58! He may very well be the most dominant athlete that I have ever seen. Incredible. And looking at his body, I think he's all natural. I don't think he's on the needle.

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« Reply #343 on: August 17, 2009, 11:59:31 PM »

Tiger Woods just blew a lead on the final day to lose a major tournament!  First time in his PGA career he's ever done that.

He played too conservative...this was bound to happen at some point, though nobody expected it to be Yang to defeat him.

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« Reply #344 on: August 23, 2009, 06:43:08 PM »

Looks like this year's Major League Baseball season is turning into a season of rarities.  First we have Mark Buehrle pitching the 18th perfect game in Major League history.  Then we have Josh Willingham hitting two grand slams in one game for only the 13th time this had ever been done.  Now this: the 15th ever unassisted triple play.  Watch Phillies second baseman Eric Bruntlett pull the snag, bag, and tag special to finish his team's win over the Mets today.

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Turns out this was only the second such triple play to actually end a game.
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« Reply #345 on: August 23, 2009, 07:45:09 PM »

Three more weeks until the official start of Football season! Woot! Woot! Grin
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« Reply #346 on: August 23, 2009, 08:14:42 PM »

Three more weeks until the official start of Football season! Woot! Woot! Grin

BAMA opens against Virginia Tech at the Georgia Dome on September 5th! Should be a great game. RTR!!!

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« Reply #347 on: August 23, 2009, 08:27:17 PM »

Three more weeks until the official start of Football season! Woot! Woot! Grin

BAMA opens against Virginia Tech at the Georgia Dome on September 5th! Should be a great game. RTR!!!

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Pshaw! Keep your College Football. Too many teams, too many conferences, and the Bowl system is a joke. I like the NFL!

Not to mention, I usually spend all day Saturday running around, getting my errands/housekeeping done so I can spend all my time after Church on Sunday watching Football! Cheesy

After all, that's what Sunday's were made for: God, family, and football. In that order! lol

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« Reply #348 on: August 23, 2009, 08:42:05 PM »

Three more weeks until the official start of Football season! Woot! Woot! Grin

BAMA opens against Virginia Tech at the Georgia Dome on September 5th! Should be a great game. RTR!!!

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Pshaw! Keep your College Football. Too many teams, too many conferences, and the Bowl system is a joke. I like the NFL!

Not to mention, I usually spend all day Saturday running around, getting my errands/housekeeping done so I can spend all my time after Church on Sunday watching Football! Cheesy

After all, that's what Sunday's were made for: God, family, and football. In that order! lol

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!



I'm just the opposite. I only deal with college football. Pulling for an NFL team is just pulling for a business. NFL players hop from team to team from year to year. They're all playing for themselves. Every team runs the same cookie cutter offense. Too many games that don't mean anything. No true rivalries. Prosaic atmosphere.

But college players are still hungry. They play passionately for their team, their school, and their state. Every game counts. You have intense rivalries. Each college - whether big or small - has it's own unique traditions and culture. And nothing beats the atmosphere of a college campus on a Saturday afternoon game day.

But hey, that's just me. To each his own.Wink

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« Reply #349 on: August 23, 2009, 09:48:21 PM »

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

Rex Ryan and gang are waiting for that Week 1 game against the Vikings where the revamped Jet defense will send Favre back to permanent retirement....    Grin
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« Reply #350 on: August 23, 2009, 10:02:02 PM »

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

Rex Ryan and gang are waiting for that Week 1 game against the Vikings where the revamped Jet defense will send Favre back to permanent retirement....    Grin

And God's people said... "Amen!" lol  laugh
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« Reply #351 on: August 23, 2009, 10:06:28 PM »

And God's people said... "Amen!" lol  laugh

I always thought Brett Favre was a decent guy until the Super Bowl Win more than a decade ago just went to his head.

At least Elway had grace and class to retire at the top.  A lot of people are forgetting the good things from Brett Favre's career and this desperation from Favre will steamroll teams and kill the confidence of starting quarterbacks (Tavares Jackson comes to mind and there are many others).

As an aside, I like to see the Ravens finish 3-13 this year.
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« Reply #352 on: August 23, 2009, 10:13:44 PM »

And God's people said... "Amen!" lol  laugh

I always thought Brett Favre was a decent guy until the Super Bowl Win more than a decade ago just went to his head.

At least Elway had grace and class to retire at the top.  A lot of people are forgetting the good things from Brett Favre's career and this desperation from Favre will steamroll teams and kill the confidence of starting quarterbacks (Tavares Jackson comes to mind and there are many others).

As an aside, I like to see the Ravens finish 3-13 this year.
Personally, the Lions HAVE TO win at least one game this year.  They can't possibly go 0-32 over a 2-year span, can they?
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« Reply #353 on: August 24, 2009, 07:31:19 PM »

Personally, the Lions HAVE TO win at least one game this year.  They can't possibly go 0-32 over a 2-year span, can they?

No 0-32 slumps.

Anyway, Too bad I can't go to a Casino in Delaware and bet $10 on the Lions winning Super Bowl XLIV.   Cry
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« Reply #354 on: August 24, 2009, 09:13:36 PM »

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS! 

I always admired the NY/NJ crowd for their creativity:

J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS!
M-E-T-S, METS, METS, METS!
N-E-T-S, NETS, NETS, NETS!

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« Reply #355 on: August 24, 2009, 09:34:01 PM »

Hockey: Detroit Redwings  (duh. And we got a nice Greek boy on the team too! Smiley )

Football (american) UofM Wolverines (pro sucks, bunc of egotistical maniacs)

Soccer: dont really follow

Baseball: dont care but the cardinals for my Grandpa and the Cubbies cuz I'm from there. Tigers...eeeh, whatever.

basketball: what? did someone say something, I was sleeping.  Except at college, where BBall was king (IWU Spartans!)


Even though you're a Wolverine and I'm a Crimson Tider, it's nice to see someone else who recognizes that college football is where it's at! Terrell Owens? Michael Vick? Brett Favre? Plaxico Burress? Dontae Stallworth? They really expect me to fork out 100$ or more to go watch these Jackasses?! Roll Eyes

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« Reply #356 on: August 25, 2009, 01:37:12 AM »

Hockey: Detroit Redwings  (duh. And we got a nice Greek boy on the team too! Smiley )

Football (american) UofM Wolverines (pro sucks, bunc of egotistical maniacs)

Soccer: dont really follow

Baseball: dont care but the cardinals for my Grandpa and the Cubbies cuz I'm from there. Tigers...eeeh, whatever.

basketball: what? did someone say something, I was sleeping.  Except at college, where BBall was king (IWU Spartans!)


Even though you're a Wolverine and I'm a Crimson Tider, it's nice to see someone else who recognizes that college football is where it's at! Terrell Owens? Michael Vick? Brett Favre? Plaxico Burress? Dontae Stallworth? They really expect me to fork out 100$ or more to go watch these Jackasses?! Roll Eyes

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GO DUCKS!!! Grin
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« Reply #357 on: August 25, 2009, 02:35:51 PM »

Hockey: Detroit Redwings  (duh. And we got a nice Greek boy on the team too! Smiley )

Football (american) UofM Wolverines (pro sucks, bunc of egotistical maniacs)

Soccer: dont really follow

Baseball: dont care but the cardinals for my Grandpa and the Cubbies cuz I'm from there. Tigers...eeeh, whatever.

basketball: what? did someone say something, I was sleeping.  Except at college, where BBall was king (IWU Spartans!)


Even though you're a Wolverine and I'm a Crimson Tider, it's nice to see someone else who recognizes that college football is where it's at! Terrell Owens? Michael Vick? Brett Favre? Plaxico Burress? Dontae Stallworth? They really expect me to fork out 100$ or more to go watch these Jackasses?! Roll Eyes

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GO DUCKS!!! Grin

Is that Oregon?

Selam
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« Reply #358 on: August 25, 2009, 03:56:32 PM »

Hockey: Detroit Redwings  (duh. And we got a nice Greek boy on the team too! Smiley )

Football (american) UofM Wolverines (pro sucks, bunc of egotistical maniacs)

Soccer: dont really follow

Baseball: dont care but the cardinals for my Grandpa and the Cubbies cuz I'm from there. Tigers...eeeh, whatever.

basketball: what? did someone say something, I was sleeping.  Except at college, where BBall was king (IWU Spartans!)


Even though you're a Wolverine and I'm a Crimson Tider, it's nice to see someone else who recognizes that college football is where it's at! Terrell Owens? Michael Vick? Brett Favre? Plaxico Burress? Dontae Stallworth? They really expect me to fork out 100$ or more to go watch these Jackasses?! Roll Eyes

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GO DUCKS!!! Grin

Is that Oregon?

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Darn quackin', it is!
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« Reply #359 on: August 25, 2009, 04:07:00 PM »

Hockey: Detroit Redwings  (duh. And we got a nice Greek boy on the team too! Smiley )

Football (american) UofM Wolverines (pro sucks, bunc of egotistical maniacs)

Soccer: dont really follow

Baseball: dont care but the cardinals for my Grandpa and the Cubbies cuz I'm from there. Tigers...eeeh, whatever.

basketball: what? did someone say something, I was sleeping.  Except at college, where BBall was king (IWU Spartans!)


Even though you're a Wolverine and I'm a Crimson Tider, it's nice to see someone else who recognizes that college football is where it's at! Terrell Owens? Michael Vick? Brett Favre? Plaxico Burress? Dontae Stallworth? They really expect me to fork out 100$ or more to go watch these Jackasses?! Roll Eyes

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GO DUCKS!!! Grin

Is that Oregon?

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Darn quackin', it is!

You guys have cool uniforms!

Selam
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