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News from Mt. Athos
« on: December 04, 2006, 07:05:39 PM »
I found this article on the net dated today, December 3, 2006.  Though many of us are familiar with the situation on Athos regarding monks who are not in favor of Vartholomaios' overtures to the West and have been punished for it by being blockaded within their monastery, what is contained in the news article is a very recent development.  This is indeed tragic.

http://www.studiomatrix.com/news/article00178.shtml

Lord, have mercy (x40)!

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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2006, 07:12:01 PM »
This same article was posted earlier and caused a debate that forced me to move the thread to Politics:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9925.0.html

I'll do it again in a heartbeat if the same debate re-occurs.
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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2006, 07:19:50 PM »
This same article was posted earlier and caused a debate that forced me to move the thread to Politics:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9925.0.html

I'll do it again in a heartbeat if the same debate re-occurs.

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Sorry, didn't know that!  I wasn't trying to be provacative.  Thanks for the correction!

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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 07:23:15 PM »
Don't worry about it---you're not a known troublemaker (at least not yet...)  ;)

My statement was directed more towards others, in case they decided to continue their debate!
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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2006, 07:41:17 PM »
I like the monks of Athos and I think they are used by God to prevent the unholy union of churches that is based on false ecumenism. I hope they remain influential in your part of the world and continue their strong opposition to this reunion.

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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2006, 07:23:13 PM »
If the Pope finally joins us, rejects the filioque and his infallibility, then there is nothing unholy about it.
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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2006, 08:12:27 PM »
If the Pope finally joins us, rejects the filioque and his infallibility, then there is nothing unholy about it.

And the fathers of Esphigmenou would not complain in the least if that were the case.
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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2006, 10:48:13 PM »
I for one am shocked :o that the Greek government is agreeing to such a cruel blockade!!  There must be other hierarchs that are in dissagreement with the EP on this subject.  If I may ask, what is it exactly that the EP is doing that is not following the teachings of the Eastern Orthodox faith??

please enlighten me,  Juliana

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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2006, 11:15:26 PM »
Would you mind doing some searches for posts that already covered this? When this issue comes up it causes some controversy and since it's already been covered in depth maybe we can avoid another round. The recent thread on the Pope visiting Constantinople has some videos I posted that provided evidence for my point of view on the issue (my bishop does not commemorate Pat Bartholemew), and I think GreekisChristian of all people has a good pro-EP point of view. Obviously I think I am right and he is wrong, but you know, that's for you to decide :)
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Re: News from Mt. Athos
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2006, 11:23:11 PM »
Thank you Anastasios,
 I went back and reviewed an earlier thread to aquaint myself with said subject.  I certainly don't want to cause any friction here and your advice is duly noted.  Much obliged,   Juliana :)