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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #990 on: March 25, 2017, 02:06:59 PM »
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #992 on: April 08, 2017, 02:38:49 PM »
Joyous Ethiopian Orthodox

I wish I had such worship at my parish;D
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #993 on: April 24, 2017, 05:49:39 PM »
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #994 on: April 24, 2017, 06:16:28 PM »
Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

It's definitely a paraliturgical song. And with an error in writing (at least in standard Arabic), as it should be معنا not معانا ("with us").
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #995 on: April 24, 2017, 06:39:03 PM »
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

This was a Protestant concert gathering.  The Coptic priest responsible for this was deposed and if I'm not mistaken eventually excommunicated from the Church.

His Grace Bishop Abanoub took over the cave church of St. Simeon the cobbler and restored its Orthodoxy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6leWgcixE
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #996 on: April 24, 2017, 06:48:25 PM »


This was a Protestant concert gathering.  The Coptic priest responsible for this was deposed and if I'm not mistaken eventually excommunicated from the Church.

His Grace Bishop Abanoub took over the cave church to St. Simeon the cobbler and restored its Orthodoxy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6leWgcixE
Good info, thanks for sharing.
It sounds like somehow it got into the hands of a pro-Protestant priest and he set up bleachers outside for Gospel Music concerts?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #997 on: April 24, 2017, 06:49:45 PM »
Yes; he's no longer in the Church and these events no longer occur; he took advantage of the situation when we were transitioning between Popes.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #998 on: April 24, 2017, 06:57:39 PM »
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

Disgusting.  But sadly, I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone posted a video of Copts singing Protestant songs in the "Oriental Orthodox Music" thread.  Protestant songs are not Oriental Orthodox music no matter who is leading the people in singing them, even if they have on a black galabeya.

Yes; he's no longer in the Church and these events no longer occur; he took advantage of the situation when we were transitioning between Popes.

Glory to God.  I fervently pray that all "pro-Protestant priests" - as rakovsky terms them - in the Coptic Orthodox Church either repent and return to Orthodoxy or are likewise censured.  The spread of this poison must stop.
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