*This is more of a question towards the Eastern Orthodox but the opinions of Roman Catholics, in love, would be greatly appreciated.
As we gather our voice in the Eastern Orthodox world to this ecumenical uproar towards unity with Roman Catholicism, we should often consider what some of the barriers are which we face for this endeavor. There are at times a frustration which encompasses us as we see these barriers that cause separation and find ourselves in a Catch-22 that is so remarkably absurd to the mindset of the East that it invariably engulfs us towards permanent dissolution. But to face these in love and charity as Jesus Christ acted and requested of us, it seems difficult to foretell if this action of unity becomes compromise to our faith in Eastern Orthodoxy.
Let us consider for a moment that Roman Catholicism comes to agreements in its core differences. A breakdown of these issues, the basic explainable differences of Papal Infallibility- Papal Supremacy- the Filioque Clause, that separates us were to be reached, in compromise.
Ã‚Â· Papal Infallibility is only applied to the Bishop of Rome in his jurisdiction
Ã‚Â· Papal Supremacy is applied to his jurisdiction
Ã‚Â· The Filioque Clause is nullified and the original Nicean Creed is used
How would this be taken in light of the Eastern Orthodox Church in unification with Rome?
Another question which arises in the Ecumenical discourse between the two bodies is where will the seat of Power in the Church be recognized. The due outcome if the Papacy of Old Rome enforces us to recognize the Seat of Peter is not legitimate to the Eastern Orthodox Church and is unavoidable as we have seen since the Schism through the several attempts at unification in the last Millenium by the Roman Catholics.
Where would the Marian Doctrine stand on the East if there was a unification between Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism? Is this something we allow to remain if there is unification without discourse between the two bodies? What if Roman Catholic Mariology like the Immaculate Conception were to be considered jurisdictional within the West and this caused an influence upon the East as something of acceptance? Something to consider is the Augustinian concept of Original Sin which created many of the Marian Doctrines applied throughout the centuries to eventually create the Immaculate Conception. Would this be something which would eventually be retracted if there was unification?
On another point to consider is the Prophetic Visions and saints who throughout the history of the Roman Catholic Church have not been very Ã¢â‚¬Å“OrthodoxÃ¢â‚¬Â to say the least. What would become of the saints who opposed Orthodoxy, or let alone, the Saints who were not very Roman Catholic, say St. Photios? What would occur if the unity of Old and New Rome occurred and there was no resolution to this issue? Could there be a compromise of saints which would flood the very corners of our Church who opposed the Saints who have remained true throughout the last Millenium? The Vision at Fatima- the Virgin of Guadelupe- Our Lady of Lourdes- Our Lady of Sorrows- Our Lady of the Snows; are these to be introduced into the Orthodox World as acceptable?
What are some of the issues that Roman Catholicism has to endure from the Eastern Orthodox Church? The rejection of the Papacy as infallible; the rejection of the Papacy as the Head of the Church Worldwide; the acceptance of the Filioque Clause; some Saints who insulted Old Rome in the name of Constantinople- other than these, its semantics which at one point Old Rome upheld dearly.
What are some of the issues the Eastern Orthodoxy has to endure from the Roman Catholic Church? I can only see this: 1,000 years of doctrines that took away and added to our Holy Mother Mary, our Lord Jesus Christ and our Patriarch as a secondary member of a council under the Authority of the Seat of Peter. This seems to be an undertaking that is unfairly weighed and compromise would influence our Holy Orthodox Church to dangerous levels of sacrilege.
Eastern Catholicism, as many have argued whether it is something of bastardization enforced upon Eastern Orthodox lands as a means of unifying the two bodies, has been underway. One introduction to the West that is undergoing some alterations is the Liturgy. Sources given to this author of this text is that the Vatican is rewriting the Roman Mass back to some of its origins, with influences coming from the Ruthenian and other Eastern Catholic bishops who were complaining that the Roman Mass presently used is not enough to accept or palatable for their bi-liturgical practices. This has caused some grievances in the West to some extent, but it is being held as a possible compromise in ecumenical circles for reunification efforts with the East.
So how are we to undertake these forced steps toward reunification with Old Rome? Are we to accept certain doctrines of the West with simple love? Should we undergo tearing down the barriers and demanding changes, on both sides for this endeavor? Or should we simply stay separated and close our doors until they come into the fold individually as the case has been for the last 200 years? Or do we start buying rosaries to go along side of our prayer ropes and chotkis and pray Ã¢â‚¬Å“-Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, amen-Ã¢â‚¬Â and at the same time ask St. Mary to save our souls by being our Holy Co-Redemptrix?
What, and how are your views different towards unification with the Roman Catholic Church? What do you see occurring? How do you see it happening? What compromises are in store for us and what changes will Old Rome make to unify 300 million people of the One, True Faith with theirs?
*I am by no means a scholar, nor am I well versed in the Ecumenical Movement, short of despising it mostly in the name of compromising my faith to be accepted and accepting others. I have little doctrinal studies within the Church but I am well versed in Protestant Charismatic Evangelicalism and Showmanship. I am a recent convert to Orthodoxy and am very zealous, if you have not noticed due to my posts, that I am strongly opinionated towards seeing, witnessing and accepting anything outside of Orthodoxy, due to many years of witnessing the destruction of faiths and lives from outside sources claiming to be light/manna from heaven.
But I pose these questions mainly to learn, and also to show my point of view. Challenge me, and teach me, gentle brethren and sisters of our faith!
What are you views on these positions?
Christ is in our midst,