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Offline Asteriktos

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Protodeutera Council?
« on: May 03, 2003, 07:03:30 PM »
Over at E-cafe Nicholas posted an article about what's going on at Mount Athos right now; part of this text said:

...According to the Protodeutera Ecumenical Council 15th cannon, the monks had an obligation to cease commemoration of the patriarch, since the Roman Catholic Church is a known heretical group to the Orthodox Church, and has been declared as such by the holy synods of the Church. The fathers of Esphigmenou correctly invoked the 15th cannon' The declaration of heresy of the Roman Catholic church can only be lifted by another ecumenical synod, and cannot be done by any one individual in the church, patriarch or otherwise.

Does anyone have any information on this Protodeutera Council? Does anyone know which "synods" are meant regarding a condemnation of the Catholic Church? I'm sure there are some, but how "pan-orthodox" were they, and when were they? I've always been interested in post-schism Church History, but information on it is so hard to come by (at least between the 12th and 17th centuries) :-";"xx
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Re:Protodeutera Council?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 07:24:24 PM »
Nicholas dug up this link, which helped.  

Protodeutera = Constantinople 861
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Re:Protodeutera Council?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2003, 09:21:21 PM »
As I understand it, the First-and-Second Council of Constantinople in 861 was a local and not an ecumenical council.

I am not disagreeing with the statement that the RCC holds some heretical doctrines.

Canons 13-15 of the Council of Constantinople (861) permit withdrawing from communion with Church authorities who publicly preach a heresy already condemned by the Fathers or one of the Ecumenical Councils.

Since the Orthodox Church has withdrawn from communion with the RCC, it is presumed her leadership did so for that reason.

Of course, under canons 13-15 the Protestant Reformation could also be justified! ;D

(If the Protestants had only sought reunion with the Holy Orthodox Church, they would have been on the right course!)

« Last Edit: May 04, 2003, 09:44:25 PM by Linus7 »
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