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« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2006, 06:36:34 PM » |
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Ah, the penny drops! See: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,10056.msg136886.html#msg136886 and the posts following. Which brings up another of GiC's techniques employed here. If you read his posts carefully, he has never advocated anything other than "mass re-education". Very skillfully, by employing wording similar to the Nazi "Final Solution", he has given you the impression that he supports it, but if you actually read his posts, he has never supported the idea of mass murder. Fairly warned be thee says I. That's not fair, you already warned everyone on this thread once  |
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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2006, 07:17:50 PM » |
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Yes, yes I totally grasp the technique used by GiC.
I must admit he does turn it into a bit of an art.
That said, I won't change a single response of mine.
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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2006, 03:13:51 AM » |
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No. Jesus just throws them in hell after we get done with them. In the Gospels, Jesus teaches that we will be judged according to what we knew, and how we acted on that knowledge. People who've never been given a real opportunity to consider the Christian faith aren't going to hell for it. Peace. |
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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2006, 08:00:18 AM » |
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In the Gospels, Jesus teaches that we will be judged according to what we knew, and how we acted on that knowledge. People who've never been given a real opportunity to consider the Christian faith aren't going to hell for it.
Peace.
Oh, I dont think they'll be condemned for merely their religion, but rather for maintaining an oppressive and archaic value system in spite of the fact that the light of western civilzation shines brightly all around them. We have offered them enlightenment and they have knowingly insisted on barbarism with no better excuse than that their heathen religion tells them to do so, and for that they will be held responsible. |
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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2006, 06:58:50 AM » |
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Oh, I dont think they'll be condemned for merely their religion, but rather for maintaining an oppressive and archaic value system in spite of the fact that the light of western civilzation shines brightly all around them. We have offered them enlightenment and they have knowingly insisted on barbarism with no better excuse than that their heathen religion tells them to do so, and for that they will be held responsible.
I think we could also apply this to many of us in the post-Christian West. Need we bulldoze nightclubs, porn shops, cinemas, and sports stadiums? We don't speak with much authority to Muslims because our own culture is increasingly secular and decadent. |
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« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2006, 02:00:30 PM » |
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I think we could also apply this to many of us in the post-Christian West. Need we bulldoze nightclubs, porn shops, cinemas, and sports stadiums?
We don't speak with much authority to Muslims because our own culture is increasingly secular and decadent.
I have long presented secularism as a cure for Islam. Indifference is a powerful tool, if replaced the Mosques with 'nightclubs, porn shops, cinemas, and sports stadiums' we would be making substantial progress. Though I would love to see the conversion of the infidels to Christianity, unlike some others here that is not my primary goal or concern in relation to the Moslems, I believe our first priority should be to eradicate Islam, by whatever means necessary, and go from there. Atheism, while sorely lacking when compared to Christianity, is a drastic improvement over Islam. |
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« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2006, 05:50:38 PM » |
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Atheism, while sorely lacking when compared to Christianity, is a drastic improvement over Islam.
Now, that's a little extreme. At least Muslims believe in the God of Abraham, and not all Muslims are violent in their faith. Peace. |
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« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2006, 06:00:22 PM » |
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[A]nd not all Muslims are violent in their faith.
Perhaps, but that is because said Muslims are peaceful people. The fact they are peaceful individuals doesn't change the fact that Islam is a violent religion and one that's gleeful when it comes to shedding Christian blood. |
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« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2006, 06:01:53 PM » |
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Now, that's a little extreme. At least Muslims believe in the God of Abraham, and not all Muslims are violent in their faith.
Peace.
Sort of..."If one righteous man is found..."? Huh? |
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