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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1800 on: April 16, 2016, 12:58:06 PM »
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Oh boy, here rises my contrarian nature. Sorry, but this really aggravates me, because it equates English with literacy. Oh what a blessing for those poor ignorant, illiterate folks (who may know five languages) to finally be able to understand read English!  ::)

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Fixed it for you. It is, indeed, a blessing that you take for granted.

Because it's not a blessing to be able to read in languages other than English?

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Hardly. (I can do that in five, btw.) The video promotes functional literacy in the language of one's country of residence. Do you have an issue with that?

Yeah, I have an issue with the latent racism of the video.
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I found a healthy pride in that video: here is a man willing to become more literate in another language. A noble thing that is. He shows his goodness by raising a son, while he worked having no time to learn reading since he was a grown man, a foreigner in a strange land, probably doing crappy jobs to take advantage of this New World that could not do what that Old World was doing to everybody else who stayed behind.
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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1803 on: April 21, 2016, 02:17:05 AM »
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I TRY not to hate it when you make me tear up!
Thanks.

Oh boy, here rises my contrarian nature. Sorry, but this really aggravates me, because it equates English with literacy. Oh what a blessing for those poor ignorant, illiterate folks (who may know five languages) to finally be able to understand read English!  ::)

Selam

Fixed it for you. It is, indeed, a blessing that you take for granted.

Because it's not a blessing to be able to read in languages other than English?

Selam

Hardly. (I can do that in five, btw.) The video promotes functional literacy in the language of one's country of residence. Do you have an issue with that?

Yeah, I have an issue with the latent racism of the video.
Selam

I found a healthy pride in that video: here is a man willing to become more literate in another language. A noble thing that is. He shows his goodness by raising a son, while he worked having no time to learn reading since he was a grown man, a foreigner in a strange land, probably doing crappy jobs to take advantage of this New World that could not do what that Old World was doing to everybody else who stayed behind.
Gebre, you got your head stuck up in retrograde! Get it out, take a whiff of fresh air. You read like a 3rd generation American.
My folks came as foreigners and all (except the wife), had to learn English as that was now their country.

Why didn't the video portray white people learning English? I suspect it's because the people that made the video assume that African or "Black" languages are "illiterate" languages, but Europeans who don't know English don't really need to learn English, because French and German and Dutch are "literate" languages. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive about it, but sometimes things like this seem completely condescending and rife with racist overtones. Just my opinion.


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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1804 on: April 21, 2016, 03:16:41 AM »
Why didn't the video portray white people learning English? I suspect it's because the people that made the video assume that African or "Black" languages are "illiterate" languages, but Europeans who don't know English don't really need to learn English, because French and German and Dutch are "literate" languages. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive about it, but sometimes things like this seem completely condescending and rife with racist overtones. Just my opinion.


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Because the video's target audience is the adult immigrant in the US? Just a thought.

I don't understand why you keep comparing English to other languages. It's not a matter of which one is more 'literate'. It's a matter of being fully functional in the language used where you are. The average American will never find himself having to live in a place where every scrap of writing, from street signs to newspapers, is in a language he can't decipher. If we drop you off in the middle of Tokyo and you can't read Japanese, you'd be as hamstrung as the guy in the video, even if everyone around you spoke English.
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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1805 on: April 21, 2016, 04:00:54 AM »
Why didn't the video portray white people learning English? I suspect it's because the people that made the video assume that African or "Black" languages are "illiterate" languages, but Europeans who don't know English don't really need to learn English, because French and German and Dutch are "literate" languages. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive about it, but sometimes things like this seem completely condescending and rife with racist overtones. Just my opinion.


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Because the video's target audience is the adult immigrant in the US? Just a thought.

I don't understand why you keep comparing English to other languages. It's not a matter of which one is more 'literate'. It's a matter of being fully functional in the language used where you are. The average American will never find himself having to live in a place where every scrap of writing, from street signs to newspapers, is in a language he can't decipher. If we drop you off in the middle of Tokyo and you can't read Japanese, you'd be as hamstrung as the guy in the video, even if everyone around you spoke English.

I understand. I just wish it would have included some other races in the video as well. It just seems like so often Africa and indigenous Black cultures are portrayed as in need of some form of Western cultural salvation.

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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1806 on: April 21, 2016, 02:39:16 PM »
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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1807 on: April 22, 2016, 12:22:05 AM »
Why didn't the video portray white people learning English? I suspect it's because the people that made the video assume that African or "Black" languages are "illiterate" languages, but Europeans who don't know English don't really need to learn English, because French and German and Dutch are "literate" languages. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive about it, but sometimes things like this seem completely condescending and rife with racist overtones. Just my opinion.

Selam

Because the video's target audience is the adult immigrant in the US? Just a thought.

I don't understand why you keep comparing English to other languages. It's not a matter of which one is more 'literate'. It's a matter of being fully functional in the language used where you are. The average American will never find himself having to live in a place where every scrap of writing, from street signs to newspapers, is in a language he can't decipher. If we drop you off in the middle of Tokyo and you can't read Japanese, you'd be as hamstrung as the guy in the video, even if everyone around you spoke English.

I understand. I just wish it would have included some other races in the video as well. It just seems like so often Africa and indigenous Black cultures are portrayed as in need of some form of Western cultural salvation.

Selam

The truth I see is that both cultures are needed for mutual salvation.
Except I may be a racist as I see the African way has more to offer than receive in the exchange.
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Re: Video of the Day
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Re: Video of the Day
« Reply #1809 on: April 29, 2016, 04:59:41 AM »
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Re: Video of the Day
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I suppose something was added to the incense ;)
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