Orthodox Opinion of RC The Liturgy of Hours

[Br. Max, OFC]

JBC: there are also order specific LOTH sets.  i.e. - Franciscan which I wished we would use, but the availability is such that it was decided to go with the regular LOTH.

[jbc1949]

JBC: there are also order specific LOTH sets.  i.e. - Franciscan which I wished we would use, but the availability is such that it was decided to go with the regular LOTH.

Same with the Dominicans and Carthusians.  Some others too?  These Orders also had their own Ordos of the mass.  I do not know to what extent that these Ordos were suppressed since Vatican II.  Some may still be in existence today although in a "reformed" condition.  The Amborsian liturgy was "reformed."  Perhaps also the Mozarabic Rite too.  I just don't know.

[Deacon Lance]

Jim,

The Psalms in the Byzantine Book of Prayer and Byzantine Daily Worship are from the Septuagint Psalter translated by Baron Jose De Vinck and Fr. Leonidas Contos and published by Alleluia Press.  It is the offical Psalter of the Melkite Catholic Eparchy and the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese, the Pittsburgh Metropolia uses it and the Grail Psalter.  Light and Life has it.
http://www.light-n-life.com/shopping/order_product.asp?ProductNum=SEPT050

Fr. Deacon Lance

[jbc1949]

Jim,

The Psalms in the Byzantine Book of Prayer and Byzantine Daily Worship are from the Septuagint Psalter translated by Baron Jose De Vinck and Fr. Leonidas Contos and published by Alleluia Press.  It is the offical Psalter of the Melkite Catholic Eparchy and the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese, the Pittsburgh Metropolia uses it and the Grail Psalter.  Light and Life has it.
http://www.light-n-life.com/shopping/order_product.asp?ProductNum=SEPT050

Fr. Deacon Lance

Thanks for the heads up, Fr. Lance.  BTW, I presume that the Metropolia uses the Grail Psalter as published in the LOTH and not the newer "inclusive language" version.  IMHO the Grail Psalter is OK.  It reads out loud better than the NAB Psalter.  I refer to the 1970 edition not the recently revised inclusive language 1986 NAB Psalter.  I find the NAB Psalter easy to read.  It just doesn't sound all that great when proclaimed publicly IMHO.

Jim C.

[Deacon Lance]

Jim,

Byzantine monastics generally don't take the hours at their proper times but aggregate them.  Generally Midnight, Orthros and Prime are taken together, Terce, Sext, and Typika together, None and Vespers together, and Compline alone, so actually they are gathering for prayer 4 times a day.  

The Syrians aggregate everything into two services: None, Vespers and Compline in the early evening and Nocturns, Matins, Terce and Sext in the early morning.  

The Chaldean/Assyrian tradtion only has three hours Ramsha (Vespers), Lilya (Midnight), and Sapra (Morning) plus Subba'a (Vigil) held on some feasts.

I judge  five times a day at the proper hour better than aggregating the services together just for the sake of doing them.  

Fr. Deacon Lance

[Deacon Lance]

Jim,

Yes, the Metropolia, or rather the new Seminary publications use the non-inclusive Grail Psalter.  However, most parishes have the Levkulic books for celebrating the Liturgy of the Presantified and Vespers and these use the De Vinck/Contos Septuagint Psalter.

Fr. Deacon Lance

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