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Surely, it's past, but it was other: fear if I manage with fasts, separation celebration of Pascha with my mother (but on the other hand, it's been the case with my father over the years, as he's Orthodox), not proper time of the Holy Week services (that are heart of liturgical year and spirituality generally saying) in Warsaw parishes.
So, not so difficult things to overcome; especially, that actually I've been broguht in Orthodoxy and Catholicism together because of my mixed family, so that's propbably different experience from most converts.
Religious Topics / Re: Pascha egg game: 2016
« Last post by Dominika on Today at 10:33:48 AM »
Today I've won with my mum ;) So, I'm not so good daughter :P
Other Topics / Re: Picture of the Day
« Last post by Dominika on Today at 10:33:07 AM »
;D Where can I play it? (the link is given in the description of the video)
I'm not a bossa nova listener...there are translations of Tom Jobim's songs to english?
Christian News / Re: Orthodox church burns down on Easter sunday
« Last post by Aram on Today at 10:27:18 AM »
It could be a simple as someone emptying a censer into a garbage can too soon, then it smolders until catching onto something else. From the looks of their schedule, they had liturgy in the morning and a luncheon at 1PM. Completely plausible that someone went back into the church to clean up, a stray person went in and lit a candle during lunch, something got overlooked, and bingo--you have a fire.

These things don't have to happen immediately. A house down the street burned a few years back. They had one of those clay fireplaces in the backyard, and the husband put the ashes in a garbage can in the garage at the end of the evening, not realizing they weren't cooled yet. Fast forward about five-six hours later, half the house goes up in flames. And that's a building significantly smaller than this church.
Here in Brazil almost all gospel bands try to be like Hillsong, they even translate the songs, is quite awful because they have to force the portuguese lyrics into a melody made for a song in english.

I suspect they do a less good job then all of Jobim's BN compositions.....;)
Here in Brazil almost all gospel bands try to be like Hillsong, they even translate the songs, is quite awful because they have to force the portuguese lyrics into a melody made for a song in english.
Non-Religious Topics / Re: PRINCE: "The Cross"
« Last post by PeterTheAleut on Today at 10:10:29 AM »
I don't believe Prince is dead. I believe his death was likely staged/faked.  So am I allowed to criticize him since he's not dead?   

The Illuminati / Hollywood fakes deaths all the time.  A couple of famous examples of our generation are Princess Diana, whose death was obviously faked, and O.J. Simpson, who never killed Ron and Nicole.   No one did. The whole murder trial was faked/staged and everyone (O.J., LAPD, DA's office, Goldman family, all the attorneys on both sides, Judge Ito, Press / Hollywood) were in on the whole psy-op.
What evidence can you provide that will convince anyone not already predisposed to believe in wacky conspiracy theories?

I have collected an abundant amount of overwhelming evidence, and am willing to share with those who are genuinely interested in the truth.  Public evidence that anyone can readily examine.  I do not intend to present myself as a Hollywood insider that has some scoop that no one can easily verify for themselves.  I will prove everything from public rituals originating from Hollywood and elsewhere.

Which shall we examine first?  O.J. or Diana?   I will cite some of the most famous American Hollywood films that many people have seen, although it will be useful to cite a few obscure films as well.

Eddie Murphy is O.J. Simpson.  His character is O.J. Simpson in the film Trading Places (1983), and his character Axel Foley represents O.J. Simpson in the Beverly Hills Cop trilogy (1987-1994).

Bill Cosby is O.J. Simpson on The Cosby Show and The Cosby Mysteries.
Tom Hanks is O.J. Simpson in Forrest Gump (1994).
Jeff Bridges is O.J. Simpson in Against All Odds (1984) and Jagged Edge (1985)
Al Bundy / Bud Bundy are O.J. Simpson on the TV show Married With Children
Charlie Sheen is O.J. Simpson in The Chase (1994)
Keanu Reeves is O.J. Simpson in Point Break (1991) and Speed (1994)

There are many more...

Princess Diana? 

One of the highest-grossing films of all-time is Titanic (1997).  Titanic is all about the faked/staged crash and death of Princess Diana.  Sarah Connor in James Cameron's hit film series The Terminator (1984) and Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) is Princess Diana.

Raiders of the Lost Ark and the character Henry Indiana Jones, played by Harrison Ford, is about Princess "Diana" and Prince Harry.   Raiders of the Lost Ark (of the covenant), Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.  Notice all three of the titles of these films relate to Jerusalem (Crusades) and the temple in Jerusalem.

Harrison ("Harry-(the)-son") Ford is Henry (Prince Harry's formal name is Henry) Indiana (inside-Diana) Jones (the most popular surname in Wales, as in the Princess of Wales).

Actress Carrie Frances Fisher, Princess Leia, is Princess Diana in Star Wars.  Princess Diana's middle name is Frances, like the actress.  Princess Leia is the twin sister of Luke Skywalker.   Diana is the twin sister of Apollo, the sun god.  He is called Skywalker because the sun walks across the sky every day. 

Speaking of Apollo, the Apollo 11 purported moon landing was a staged hoax; a satanic fertility ritual revolving around the pretended or supposed virgin crescent-moon goddess Princess Diana.   Diana is a virgin goddess is she not?  Does anyone recall the fuss the press made about Lady Diana Spencer being a (purported) virgin prior to her marriage to Prince Charles?  Diana is the Roman goddess of fertility and childbirth, of hunting, and the moon. 

The Apollo 11 purported lunar landing was an elaborate occult ritual staged by the lying satanic agency NASA. That NASA is comprised of lying satanists is obvious. Why ought we suppose that NASA's logo features the red forked-tongue of the serpent? The red forked tongue ("chevron") also forms the T, to go along with NASA which is an anagram of SATAN.

The hoax moon landing occult ritual was oriented around Revelation 12 and Princess Diana, as the (supposed/pretended) virgin crescent moon goddess, also a personification of the character "Wonder Woman".

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great WONDER in heaven; a WOMAN,,," i.e. Wonder Woman, Princess Diana of Themyscira

Wonder Woman (Princess Diana alias Diana Prince)

Rev 12:1 ...a woman clothed with the sun,

Apollo is the sun god. the twin brother of Diana (Greek: Artemis) the moon goddess.

Rev 12:1 ...and the moon under her feet

The Apollo 11 lunar module placed the moon under her feet (so they claim), did it not?

Rev 12:1: ...and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

The Apollo lunar missions have purportedly put exactly twelve men "stars" on the surface of the moon. It is surely not a coincidence that for over four decades the number of men who have purportedly walked the lunar surface has remained at exactly 12, and not any more.

Rev 12:3  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon...

HRH Prince Harry is Prince of Wales.  The flag of Wales features a great red dragon.

Flag of Wales

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron

Princess Diana the "Wonder Woman" bringing forth the Antichrist...

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness...

"Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed."

The John F. Kennedy Space Center was formed July 1, 1962, Princess Diana's first birthday.

Prince Diana's birth, 1 July, was arranged to occur in the sign of Cancer. The sign of Cancer is ♋️ i.e. a 69. Ought we suppose it to be just a coincidence that the hoax moon landings were Back in the Summer of '69, during July, in Diana's sign of Cancer?

The hoax Apollo 11 lunar mission departed on July 16, 1969, the anniversary of the Trinity Atomic Test in 1945.  There was a "trinity" of three astronauts that participated in the Apollo 11 mission.  Would someone likes to tell us which three astronauts represented the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?

The lunar module supposedly "put the moon under her feet" on July 20, the Grand Climax on the Satanic calendar.

On the anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing hoax, July 20, 2012, in Aurora Colorado, they staged The Dark Knight Rises theater shooting hoax, where the actor who played the perpetrator dyed his hair red/orange and declared "I am the Joker".

Aurora is the goddess of the dawn and the mother of Lucifer the morning star. The "joker" dyed his hair red to allude to Prince Harry. "Old Harry" is a centuries old term for the devil in England.

Princess Aurora in Sleeping Beauty deliberately alludes to Princess Diana.

The July 20, 2012 Aurora Batman staged shooting at the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises was literally a "Dark (K)night" since it purportedly took place at a midnight screening, on the first day following a new moon, i.e. a waxing crescent moon for Diana the crescent moon goddess.

147 days later the same global criminal cabal (Mystery Babylon) staged the Sandy Hook Elementary hoax shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.

Sandy Hook was also scripted to occur on a Friday, like the Aurora psy-op before it, because the pagans dedicate Friday to Venus/Aphrodite. It was also the first day following a new moon, i.e. a waxing crescent moon.

Not only were both these sensationalized high profile staged shooting psy-ops both staged on Friday's the first day following a new moon, but there are more connections that can be explored. This post is getting long, so I will be brief.

Friday July 20. 2012 Aurora shooting was on the anniversary of Apollo 11 supposed moon landing ...

Friday December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook was the anniversary of the purported Apollo 17 departure from the lunar surface for the final time, on December 14, 1972.

So, one supposed shooting on Friday the first day following a new moon on the anniversary of the day that man supposedly first set foot on the moon, Aurora, and then five months later another sensational shooting on Friday the first day following a new moon on the anniversary of the day that man supposedly last set foot on the moon.

None of this is a coincidence, and much more could be said.

Lady Diana is the Sandy Hooker (a personification of the Prostitute or Great Whore of Babylon) and the Sandy Hook shooting psy-op ritual was about the conception of Prince Henry Charles Albert David, a.k.a. Prince Harry.

Princes Diana is also Queen Isis, the mother of Horus.

This is all related to the ISIS Fertility Centre in Colchester, Essex, Bourn Hall Clinic, and IVF (in vitro fertilisation) involved with the conception of the Antichrist.  Upper parts of the River Thames are also called Isis, including when it flows through the university city of Oxford, England.  It is all connected to a distortion of the memory of St. Mary Magdalene, and the blasphemous fiction that she had relations with Jesus Christ.  It's all about the secrecy of the birth of the Antichrist and the rose.

Sub rosa

One will notice all the Mary Magdalene and Sophie references to the rose in the Da Vinci Code, (including Rosslyn Chapel and the "Rose Line") in the novel/film, and one will also note frequent scenes with Katniss Everdeen associated with roses (especially white roses) in The Hunger Games.   All this is contrived to connect to England's Rose, Diana, who bears the thorn, as in Damien Thorn the Antichrist in The Omen (1976) released on June 6, and the remake in 2006 that was released at 6:06:06 on 6/06/06. 

The Holy and Wonderworking Unmercenary twins Cosmas and Damian, martyrs at Rome, are celebrated on July 1 (Old Style) to connect to Diana's birthday.    Another set of twin saints, Holy Wonderworkers and Unmercenaries Cosmas and Damian of Mesopotamia, are celebrated on November 14 (New Style) Prince Charles' birthday.  So both Diana and Charles are connected in  a way through their birthdays to St. Damian, and Damien the Antichrist.  All of this has been contrived.

Prince Harry blasphemously proclaims himself as "Henery the Eighth, I AM, I AM"  (You will see this I AM logo all over Prince Harry on TV in the coming week as Prince Harry comes to the states for the Invictus Games.)

Harry wears polo shirts and such that have I AM embroidered on them, as if he thinks he is God.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Revelation 17:10-11)

Prince Harry styles himself the 8th king (the beast) of the Apocalypse.

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (Exodus 3:13-14)

I'm 'Enery the Eighth, I am,
'Enery the Eighth I am, I am!

Prince Harry was conceived in an occult ritual ilkely on December 14 (i.e. Sandy Hook) in 1983, nine months before his birth on September 15, 1984.

Prince Harry's Hebrew name is David. Christ is called David in the following verses from prophet Ezekiel, but Antichrist will seek to usurp this name David for himself. Christ is Prince of princes; Antichrist will be a prince. Christ is King of kings; Antichrist will be a king.

"For so after the prophets, were the false prophets; and after the apostles, the false apostles; and after Christ, Antichrist. For unless the devil see what to imitate, or against whom to plot, he neither attempts, nor knows how." (St. John Chrysostom)

It should be noted that this passage from Ezekiel was centuries after King David had died, and "my servant David shall be their prince for ever" could only refer to Christ.

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. (Ezekiel 37:24-25)

Gloria Frances Stuart is the actress who plays the old Rose in Titanic.  Notice her middle name is Frances, just like Princess "Die" and the Princess Leia actress, Carrie Frances Fisher.   Her last name is Stuart, and Diana descends from the Scottish Royal House of Stuart.  Rose's mother is played by red-haired actress Frances Fisher.  Diana's mother is named Frances.

The star of Titanic is named Rose, and the young version of Rose is played by British actress Kate Winslet.  Why is the character named Rose?  What did Elton John sing at Diana's fake funeral?  "Goodbye England's Rose..."  The character Jack, played by Leonardo DiCaprio, is short for Jackal.  That is why DiCaprio's character Jack goes to the bow of the ship Titanic, spreads his arms out in the shape of a cross, and shouts: "I'm king of the world!" (i.e. I am the Antichrist). Then he arches his head towards the sky and starts howling like a wolf.   That's why they made DiCaprio, the Jack(al) in Titanic, The WOLF of Wall Street.

Diana was a kindergarten teacher on Lupus Street at the Young England School in the Pimlico section of London.  Lupus is Latin for wolf.  Marty McFly's mother Lorraine is Diana in Back to the Future (1985).  Why ought we suppose Michael J. FOX played Teen WOLF(1985), which was released the following month?

Lady Diana is the wolf, the jackal, the fox, and the dog.  The mother of the Antichrist is a jackal in The Omen films.  Harvey Spencer Stephens plays Damien Thorn.  Diana Spencer. "Every Rose has its Thorn..."  Who is England's Rose that bears the thorn, the Antichrist?  What did they sing about Diana the fertility goddess of the moon?  "Goodbye England's Rose..."

What day did they script Diana to be married?  July 29, 1981, on the feast of St. Lupus (wolf).

Caledon (Cal) Hockley, the rich and controlling fiance of Rose in Titanic, represents Prince Charles.  This is why in the film he refers to them as royalty, like the Prince and Princess of Wales:

"We are royalty, Rose.
You know, there is nothing I couldn’t give you.
There is nothing I’d deny you, if you would not deny me.
Oh, open your heart to me, Rose." (In the Madonna video to the song, Open Your Heart (1986) she plays a stripper/whore.)

His name is Caledon for Artemis (Diana) and the Calydonian Boar

Calydonian Boar

Why did the Titanic crash in the film?  It was going too fast.  Why did Diana purportedly crash?  Her driver was supposedly driving at a high rate of speed.  What time did the Titanic crash into the iceberg?  Shortly before midnight.  When did Diana purportedly crash?  Shortly after midnight.  The Titanic turned to the port side and consequently struck the iceberg on the starboard side.  That was the story with the Diana crash.  Her driver supposedly swerved to the left and the car struck the pillar on the right side.  Diana was riding in the back of a Mercedes, which has a silvery-white star for its emblem.  What does it say on the cap of the helmsman right before the Titanic strikes the iceberg?  White Star Lines.

What day did the Titanic sink?  April 15.  What is the purported lover of Diana, Dodi Fayed's birthday?  April 15.   Dodi Fayed is the executive producer of Chariots of Fire (1981).  This film is about the Antichrist too.  What is on the film poster?  A flaming torch.   How do the pagans celebrate the festival of Diana?  With flaming torches.


Where did they say Diana crashed in Paris? (Recall, Jack in Titanic liked to draw nude sketches of prostitutes in Paris, and Rose asks Jack to draw her the way he draws those girls in Paris. This is the Paris-Diana-Great Whore of Babylon connection.)

She supposedly crashed in the tunnel of the Pont de l'Alma (Alma Bridge).  Alma/Almah is the Hebrew word for 'virgin' in Isaiah:

Behold, a virgin (almah) shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (Isaiah 7:14)

The purported death of Diana was all carefully scripted many years in advance.

The character Sophie in The Da Vince Code is Princess Diana, the "Holy Grail".  Notice she sticks her head out the window like a dog.  She was in a car crash.  The Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons also have embedded foreknowledge of the Illuminati's plans to install Pope Francis.  He has been groomed for his role from birth, just like Putin and Obama, who are all agents of the same secret society, headed by the Jewish-Masonic Sanhedrin.

Katniss Everdeen is Princess Diana in The Hunger Games.  She is the archer, and Diana bears the bow.  Diana is the huntress goddess and so is Katniss a hunter.  The katniss plant is sagittaria sagittifolia.  The astrological sign of Sagittarius is symbolized by the archer.  Why ought we suppose most of these Hunger Games films come out in around the third week in November, when the sun enters the sign of Sagittarius, the archer?  Everything in Hollywood is scripted, and every Hollywood film is released on a specific day to signify an occult purpose.

Martha Stewart is Princess Diana.  As I said previously, Diana descends from the Scottish Royal House of Stewart.  The whole insider-trading scandal was a pre-orchestrated hoax, and the satanist Martha was in on it the whole time.  Martha Stewart was married on July 1, 1961, the day that Lady Diana was born.  Diana was married on July 29, 1981 the feast of St. Martha.

Selena Gomez (after the fact) is Princess Diana in her films, and in her music video "Slow Down".  Why ought we suppose that Selena Gomez is riding around in the back of a black Mercedes (like Diana was), late at night (it is completely dark in the video and there appears to be no traffic around), in Paris, just like Diana, singing slow down?  The Selena Gomez song was released on Festival of Diana (August 13)

Selena is the Titan moon goddess, as in Titan-ic.  Selena is simply a Latinized from of Selene, which is the Greek Titaness goddess of the moon.   Why ought we suppose that high priestess of Lucifer, Céline Dion, was chosen to sing the theme song to Titanic?  Céline is simply another from of Selene or Selena.

Selena Gomez purportedly has the disease Lupus.  Lupus means wolf.   Jennifer (the queen consort to King Arthur) Lopez played the starring role in Selena (1997).  Lopez is simply the Spanish word for Lupus, i.e. wolf.

Duchess Kate's younger brother James Middleton gave a cocker spaniel Lupo to Kate and William as their wedding present.  Lupo means wolf in Italian.

Selena Gomez was in a film called Monte Carlo (2011).  It was released on July 1, Princess Diana's birthday.  Princess Grace Kelly was in a car crash and allegedly died in Monte Carlo.  Selena ('moon goddess') Gomez plays the character Grace in the film. and Leighton Meester plays her stepsister Mary Margaret "Meg" Kelly.  Put the two names of the girls together, and you get Grace and Kelly, i.e. Princess Grace Kelly.   Selena Gomez goes to Paris and impersonates a princess in the film, even wearing blue sapphire and diamond jewelry that looks just like the jewelry Diana wore.  Gomez is chased by the paparazzi just like Diana.

Selena Gomez also stared in a film called Princess Protection Program (2009).  She stars alongside actress/singer Demi Lovato, who plays the princess, and later queen.


Lovato is a surname of northern Italian origin. It derives from the Late Latin personal name Lupatus, derivative of Latin lupus, meaning "wolf".  Meaning  "Like a wolf"

More recently Selena Gomez starred in a film Behaving Badly (2014) that was released in the USA on July 1, Diana's birthday. Her male co-lead is actor Nat Wolff.  Selena supposedly has Lupus, meaning wolf.  In another film she stars opposite Demi Lovato, which means "like a wolf".  Diana is the she-wolf that suckles the twin founders of Rome, Romulus and Remus.  Leto, the mother of Apollo and Artemis would also take the guise of a wolf, and hence Apollo is associated with the wolf:


The meaning of the epithet "Lyceus" later became associated with Apollo's mother Leto, who was the patron goddess of Lycia (Λυκία) and who was identified with the wolf (λύκος),[24] earning him the epithets Lycegenes (/laɪˈsɛdʒəniːz/ ly-sej-ə-neez; Λυκηγενής, Lukēgenēs, literally "born of a wolf" or "born of Lycia") and Lycoctonus (/laɪˈkɒktənəs/ ly-kok-tə-nəs; Λυκοκτόνος, Lykoktonos, from λύκος, "wolf", and κτείνειν, "to kill").

James Bond's romantic interest in the latest Bond film Spectre, French actress Léa Seydoux was also born July 1, the same as Diana, and, O wonder!  she was in a film Midnight in Paris (2011). Ring a bell?  Midnight in Paris?  When did Diana supposedly crash?  Around midnight in Paris?   That is why this same actress Léa Seydoux is in a car accident in the film Spectre, just like Diana.  All this is contrived by the devils in Hollywood.

The British actress Claire Forlani also has the same birthday as Princess Diana, and she is the star of Meet Joe Black (1998).  Her father is played by actor Anthony Hopkins from Wales, and she is daddy's little princess in the film, the princess of Wales. She stars opposite Brad Pitt, as in the pit of hell.  Brad Pitt is "Death" in Meet Joe Black, and she fornicates with Death, implying Princess Diana fornicated with Death.  This film is also about revealing foreknowledge of plans to install Pope Benedict, a.k.a. Joseph Ratzinger, who is Joe Black.  Joseph is the foster-father of our Lord Jesus Christ.  It's also about Joe Biden and Putin and Righteous Joseph the Handsome, and much more.

Joe Black is "Death" in the film, i.e. Black Death.   How was the "Black Death" plague spread throughout Europe?  From black rats.  Pope Benedict XVI is Joe "Black Rat" Ratzinger.  Prince Harry was born in the year of the rat, 1984.  Prince Harry has a scallop shell on his coat of arms.  So does Ratzinger.  Benediktos (Benedict in Greek) totals 666, according to isopsephy.

Even though Brad Pitt is an effeminate, like all the leading men in Hollywood, do not many ladies lust after Brad Pitt, thinking he is so handsome?   Brad Pitt is Joe Black.   Patriarch Joseph, the son of Jacob and Rachel, was handsome, like Brad Pitt, and his brothers were jealous of him and cast him into a pit. (as in Brad Pitt). Egypt is a Greek word meaning Black.  So Joe Black refers to Joseph the Handsome who was sold into slavery in Egypt by his brethren.  Brad Pitt's birthday December 18 is the same as Joseph Stalin, so there is a Joe Black-Joseph Stalin connection in the film as well.  There are a lot of things going on in this film, and in every Hollywood production.  I can't cover it all in one post.  Brad Pitt's birthday December 18 is also the day that Joe Biden's wife and daughter were allegedly killed in fatal motor vehicle accident.  In the film Brad Pitt (Joe Black) is struck in what appears to be a fatal motor vehicle accident.  Just another coincidence?  The film is about Joe Biden as well.

Much more could be said...
This is evidence of nothing but your hyperactive imagination. You're making wild connections with no substance. No one not already given to such laughable conspiracy theories will ever buy any of this crap.
Reviews / Re: New Age (and the like) in Movies/TV
« Last post by FormerReformer on Today at 10:08:10 AM »
All Hollywood movies and tell-a-vision programs are sophisticated occult rituals.  Not some, but all of them.  There are demonic concepts and plans for attacks against humanity embedded in and associated with every single production. One can not be a Hollywood producer or director without first being initiated into their secret satanic society.  Hollywood directors have no choice, but must embed references in their productions to the systematic program of worldwide attacks the Illuminati intends to carry out. All Hollywood producers and directors are satanists, and all of the top actors as well.  There are no Christians in Hollywood, period.

Hollywood is the ministry of magic as well as the chief propaganda arm of the Illuminati.

And did you know that part of the initiation is to force those who would be initiated to go to a Catholic church (they're totally in on it), sacrifice a rabbit on the altar, and bath in its blood?
Wow, are you behind the times! We - I mean they - changed the initiation ritual at the last quarterly meeting. Now one must go to a Unitarian church, dance naked widdershins around the altar, while peeing in the direction of a Catholic church.

At least, so I've heard. It's not like I have any inside information or anything....
Well, I think the society has more time to integrate these muslim imigrants, in Europe there is no time of adaptation, people usually form ethnic guettos as soon as they move to a european town and live in a parallel society. In the americas, imigrants are wealthier and more westernized, I know some muslim people from Tunisia, Morocco and Lebanon, all of them are very integrated to society, they don't live in ethnic guettos and so on...
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