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Are there any other cases where a Roman priest consulted other sees on an official matter without consulting Rome?

I'm sure there was plenty of consulting during the 150+ years when the Popes of Rome had to be accepted by the Byzantine emperor or his deputy to actually become pope. Many of them were more comfortable speaking Greek anyway.
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Other Topics / Re: The Menswear Thread
« Last post by vamrat on Today at 02:22:49 PM »
I'm just happy when a guy doesn't wear a hoodie everyday.

Hoodies are never appropriate for white folk.

Only because you weren't a teenager in 2001.  Next you're going to tell me that a center part and wallet chain aren't cool either.
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Other Topics / Re: W.A.G.-word association game
« Last post by Maria on Today at 02:21:08 PM »
sweet n' sour sauce
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Convert Issues / Re: Who made Orthodoxy an exclusive club or group? ...
« Last post by Maria on Today at 02:19:36 PM »
Maybe we have different ideas of what is Orthodox ... and that's ok.

Yes, folks do have different ideas of what Orthodoxy is, but pride enters in, anger soon follows, and that is not okay.

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Other Topics / Re: The Menswear Thread
« Last post by Alpo on Today at 02:17:14 PM »
I'm just happy when a guy doesn't wear a hoodie everyday.

Hoodies are never appropriate for white folk.

Hoodies are never appropriate for anyone.



Yes, we can.
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While not Rome alone, the worldwide Church gave Alexandria the authority to give the annual Easter date and give encyclicals.  We have not dogmatized Alexandria as the sole arbiter of Easter dates, since Pope Gregory who created the new calendar did not recognize Alexandria's infallibility in Easter dates.

never...it was a Nicene canon that gave Alexandria the authority

I don't know what traditions the Coptic Church has handed down, but as for what is written in the texts I have available to me... well let's just say that you might want to check on this.  ;)
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Convert Issues / Re: Who made Orthodoxy an exclusive club or group? ...
« Last post by WPM on Today at 02:05:00 PM »
Maybe we have different ideas of what is Orthodox ... and that's ok.
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The see of Peter never failed in remaining a beacon of orthodoxy. Only polemicists with their roman hatred wish it fell.


I don't get it. Is that a Catholic practice?

Yes. Crucifixion is a Roman practice.

 :D i should make this my signature! Please may i?
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Nobody denies the reality of judging the dead. The point (which you clearly missed) was that they were not judging the bishop of Rome but a dead man who at some time was once bishop of Rome. That is the Pope is only one man at one time. They judged Honorius who was a dead man but not a the bishop of Rome for he was St. Agatho who later was succeeded by Leo II.

This is embarrassingly silly...
This is embarrassingly silly. If you fail to see the distinction then you really need to read up on the nature of the priesthood. Only one Bishop at one time. This is a real concept or else it can be extremely dangerous the unity of the Church if we do not hold to this

No, I think it's the schizophrenia that results from trying to give a mere man the constancy of God without actually making him God.

Way off and honestly not worth a response

So they were judging a dead man who was once Bishop of Rome for stuff he did when he was dead?
No when he was alive. More specifically what he wrote

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Or was it for stuff he did while he was alive and not the Bishop of Rome?  Or was it for stuff he did while he was alive and simultaneously the Bishop of Rome?

The stuff he did while he was alive period. The issue here is while he holds the see he cannot be judged.  Hence even in Catholicism we have cases of popes (post schism) being judged after their deaths at councils for stuff they did during their papacy.

So he was judged for his papacy.  Thanks.

When a Pope dies, how do the liturgical prayers of his funeral (and the texts of his Mass and Office, if a saint/beatus) refer to him?
Don't confuse him with the facts.
But to be fair, not all Popes are so lucky to have funeral mass.
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Pope Pius III forbade the celebration of a requiem Mass [of his predecessor Pope Alexander VI], explaining: “It is blasphemous to pray for the damned.”
https://books.google.com/books?id=B6fxdwS-cdsC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=%22forbade+the+celebration+of+a+requiem+Mass,+explaining:+%E2%80%9CIt+is+blasphemous+to+pray+for+the+damned.%E2%80%9D%22&source=bl&ots=S_R_MEeCCw&sig=DEsmQ479SBcbhh30uldy2HztgbM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UgUcVY6aBYjngwTN14LwDw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22forbade%20the%20celebration%20of%20a%20requiem%20Mass%2C%20explaining%3A%20%E2%80%9CIt%20is%20blasphemous%20to%20pray%20for%20the%20damned.%E2%80%9D%22&f=false
(not really a good book, but on this it is correct)

This is rather odd. Isn't he dead?

Aren't those papal vestments. They look like them (notice the slippers).

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A camauro (from the Latin camelaucum, from Greek kamelauchion, meaning "camel skin hat") is a cap traditionally worn by the Pope of the Catholic Church [sic].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camauro
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The Papal Slippers are an historical accoutrement worn by the Bishop of Rome. The papal slippers were a form of episcopal sandals worn by bishops. However, unlike the (rarely seen) episcopal sandals, which change with the liturgical colour, the papal slippers were always red...Usually elaborate, papal slippers were made by hand with red satin, red silk, and gold thread; they featured an embroidered cross garnished with rubies...it was customary for pilgrims having an audience with the Pope to kneel and kiss one of his slippers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Slippers
Who's the pope here?

Our Popes remain Pope after their repose

rather odd that their supreme pontiffs do not. But then, their ecclesiastical community isn't big enough for two popes.



Of course, Wandile's biggest problem is that he is contradicting the verdict of one of his "infallible supreme pontiffs."
who is speaking ex cathedra here?

This is all out of respect for the office he held before his death.It is not a declaration that he is still pope. If it were, then the intermediate phase between  papacies would not be called "Sede vacante" (empty/vacant chair)
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The point is the use of the argument in the original post, the idea that Rome wrote to Corinth concerning some of their situations.  But this is not anything unique to Rome, so the argument that this proves Rome's primacy lacks the consistency with other inter-parish letters.
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