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 on: Yesterday at 08:46:18 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by quietmorning
^^ Beautiful. Smiley

 on: Yesterday at 08:46:09 PM 
Started by Nephi - Last post by podkarpatska
When St. Paul  says:  'I wish  all were like me," unmarried, he does not imply one of two alternatives but unmistakably  gives preference  to one of the two, to a life thrown as a whole into the fire of Christ, ablaze like glowing iron. The viri probati [the "proven men", married men who might be ordained to the priesthood, once their commitment is proven] are cold iron, no matter how zealous they might be personally. The unmarried shepherd  is the glowing iron and he alone can communicate his radiance  to  others.  Catechesis by  married priests and by laymen  (possibly more by the latter) is unlikely to kindle  vocations  to the  unmarried priesthood.  One  begets one's likeness; one recommends his own. Only the word and example of celibate priests can awaken  the generosity of total dedication  in  young  people. [underline added]

-- 'The Meaning of Celibacy', Hans Urs von Balthasar

If the above is the typical Catholic perspective, then I have not much hope for married men's ordination in the RCC Latin Rite, and would be concerned for its continuing presence in the other rites.

Such utter nonsense is certainly historically common in the western Roman Catholic Church and it is behind the efforts over the past hundred and fifty years to restrict the rights of the Eastern Catholics. To me, and this is personal as such nonsense helped drive my grandparents to the Orthodox Church, polemic apologia like this has to make it exceedingly difficult for sincere and pious Eastern Catholics who try to reconcile their place within the Church of Rome as somehow being a bridge between east and west. If that is a bridge, I fear that the water below is poisoned and the fish are dead. But, on the bright side, such sentiments are by no means universally held by the Roman intelligensia - but among the masses, I don't know..... (On a personal note, the posting of this excerpt today as I return home from the ordination of my son and the third generation to serve the Orthodox Church in the priesthood since our Diocese was received into the Orthodox Faith was a poignant reminder of the reasons for the sacrifices that were made by so many immigrants and first generation Americans who formed the backbone of today's OCA and ACROD and UOC-USA by returning from the broken promises of the Unia into full communion with the faith of the Orthodox.)

 on: Yesterday at 08:44:20 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by CopticDeacon
Myself with (a real Coptic full) Deacon Boulos (Paul) after liturgy at the annual good shepherd retreat. I served in the Altar with him!:

I'm on the left. This is the choosing of the lamb (loaf of bread to be transformed to the Body of Christ)

NOTE: We're in a hotel ballroom, hence the lack of icons, iconostasis etc. All the Altar vestments and vessels are from my church!

 on: Yesterday at 08:42:57 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by quietmorning
A bumper sticker for your amusement:


I need one of these for my husband's truck. 

 on: Yesterday at 08:41:51 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by quietmorning

Ah, ok.  I am now educated.  Smiley Thanks!

 on: Yesterday at 08:39:27 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by Porter ODoran
Probably somewhere like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_City,_Grand_Cayman

 on: Yesterday at 08:38:39 PM 
Started by BrethrenBoy - Last post by BrethrenBoy
I've recently realized that Catholics and Protestants have a different way of numbering the 10 Commandments. Considering this I was wondering how the Orthodox number them.

 on: Yesterday at 08:34:51 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by quietmorning

What on earth?!

 on: Yesterday at 08:20:08 PM 
Started by Maximum Bob - Last post by quietmorning

Maximum Bob, It took me a few minutes to figure it out - but here is something I think you can use.  If you would like to quote this, you should be able to see the code for it, copy it and post to to either a new post or under your signiture. . maybe?  Let me know when you have it and I'll take this post down if I can still modify.

This was the only one I could find that would work with the code here on OC.net.

 on: Yesterday at 08:18:05 PM 
Started by ozgeorge - Last post by DeniseDenise
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