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I enjoyed "Orthodoxy and Heresy of the Anti-Chalcedonians according to St John Damascene" by George Martzelos and I corresponded with him and told him so. It was very clear that he found nothing heretical at all in our Christology, and he made it clear that what was required was accepting Chalcedon as a fact, and that whatever was believed didn't really matter as long as the fact of Chalcedon were accepted. It was useful to have such a view presented so clearly.
Yes, but he doesn't define what the "fact" of Chalcedon is. If it is the Definition of Christology, then there is no problem. But his article clearly says we have to accept Chalcedon as a whole regardless of what we actually believe.

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Positively, I did think that he drew out that sense that a community could be considered Orthodox and heterodox at the same time. That was, to some extent how we also viewed the Chalcedonians.
But he didn't say a community can be Orthodox and heterodox. He said a community is Orthodox by dogma but heretical by ecclesiology. I think most will agree that a heretic is more than just a heterodox schismatic. By accusing Sts. Dioscorus' and Severus' of a Christology with natures confused and separated, something that never factually happened, Martzelos and St John Damascene are muddying the waters of what heresy is. How then can Martzelos (or those who take the same position) expect us to accept the "fact" of Chalcedon when he is advocating the opposite for OO Christology? 
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Reviews / Re: New Age (and the like) in Movies/TV
« Last post by Cyprian700 on Yesterday at 04:30:03 PM »
Is everyone in this forum so captivated, hypnotized, and utterly enslaved by Hollywood, and so in love with the things of this world, that there is no one here who has seen any of the YouTube videos documenting foreknowledge of 9/11 embedded in Hollywood movies and TV?   Surely there must be at least one person here who has come across a video about the Simpsons 9/11 episode, or seen this video about 9/11 hidden in Steven Spielberg's Back to the Future, sixteen years ahead of time?

BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

Hollywood Predicted 9/11 !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41FRnNDZkuI

Feldman starred in Spielberg films such as Goonies and Gremlins during the time he described being surrounded by pedophiles.

Corey Feldman: Pedophilia Is Hollywood's Biggest Problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roW238dfUUk

Back To The Future 3 - Pedophilia scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq5-6PkVGCg

I have extensive knowledge of the inner workings of Freemasonry and the Illuminati, and its propaganda arm Hollywood, and I can assure everyone, that it is not only 9/11 that is hidden in not merely a few, but literally hundreds and thousands of their productions, but also many of the other sensationalized attacks and psy-ops, such as the Boston Marathon bombings, Aurora and Sandy Hook supposed shootings, Paris attack supposed shootings, etc.  Also Hollywood reveals foreknowledge of natural disasters they deliberately perpetrate such as Hurricane Katrina, the Japanese 3/11 tsunami, many earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tornadoes, flood events, etc.
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My argument was Theodore did not merely have a terminilogical disagreement.  If it was merely terms, Theodore would be Orthodox. But the theology of Theodore is more than terminology, unlike what is argued concerning Leo, Dioscorus, Severus, etc.  Based on a few studies lately, like Fr. John Behr and Daniel Keating, Theodore is unmistakably heterodox.  He didn't merely reject theosis.  Even immortality is "created", not uncreated.  There can be no sharing of properties whatsoever between divinity and humanity, even within Christ.  When I get to a computer, I can share some quotes with you to show the stark contrast.  How about that?
I expect you can find mistakes in what he said, just like teaching two hypostases before the union is a mistake.

It goes back to whether we want to consider someone as orthodox regardless of the plain meaning of their teachings. How do you explain a person teaching two hypostases before and at the moment of union as orthodox? The best way I can think to do that is to propose that since Severus taught that there was always one person in Christ, that Severus did not in effect believe the formulahe had just given, even though he explained it at length.

So it is with Theodore M. In case immortality is uncreated and divine, then even if Theodore M. asserts the opposite, then by asserting immortality of Christians, he has still in effect asserted their divinization.

I find the arguments over Theodore M. and Theodoret to be superfluous to my real goal, which is reunion.
To make it a necessary issue to solve, you would have to assert that they actually taught two persons (Nestorianism) and that their alleged teaching to this effect is what Chalcedon's writers meant by "in two natures... and... one... hypostasis... unseparated".

As concerns the question of whether Dioscorus, Severus, and Theodore M. are heretics, personally, I prefer to be ecumenical, lenient, consistent, and open-minded when judging Christians' fundamental beliefs. I am fine if they are not labeled heretics by EOs or OOs, and Cyril actually opposed anathematizing Theodore M. himself.
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Christian News / Re: Orthodox church burns down on Easter sunday
« Last post by minasoliman on Yesterday at 04:06:02 PM »
I got into the habit of turning off candles with my fingers than with my breathe.  This was there's less chance of anything smoldering.
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My argument was Theodore did not merely have a terminilogical disagreement.  If it was merely terms, Theodore would be Orthodox. But the theology of Theodore is more than terminology, unlike what is argued concerning Leo, Dioscorus, Severus, etc.  Based on a few studies lately, like Fr. John Behr and Daniel Keating, Theodore is unmistakably heterodox.  He didn't merely reject the term of theosis, but even its concepts.  Even immortality is "created", not uncreated.  There can be no sharing of properties whatsoever between divinity and humanity, even within Christ.  When I get to a computer, I can share some quotes with you to show the stark contrast.  How about that?
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Christian News / Re: Orthodox church burns down on Easter sunday
« Last post by Aram on Yesterday at 03:59:32 PM »
And here's the cause: A box of candles.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/massive-fire-manhattan-church-caused-box-candles-article-1.2623420

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A box of candles left smoldering caused the massive inferno that destroyed a 160-year-old Manhattan church, FDNY Commissioner Daniel Nigro said Tuesday...

Nigro said a caretaker placed candles that had not been properly extinguished into a box. The fire was accidental, he said.
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"In two natures" is not a concept, it's "terminology". The concept is what is understood by the terms. 
It is terminology that carries with it concepts.

Whatever concept is reasonably understood by the term nature will make "in two natures" correct. If we say that Cyril understood nature to mean concrete substance, then we are still left with the fact that he openly spoke of Christ being in two natures.

In case you disagree, thenthe same kind of issue exists for Severus as it does for Theodore M. They both asserted two hypostases for Christ, but Severus said that the two hypostases were joined at the union, and that there were not two afterwards. Are they just expressing mistaken terminology or also substance when they assert two hypostases?

I prefer to say that these are terminological issues, or that even if they conceived of two hypostases, they did not actually believe this as a fundamental part of their beliefs (eg. Christ always being one person), which contradict their mistakes.
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Dear Remnkemi, where can I read this exchange between the archmandrite and pope Cyril IV?
How's your French? The French article was written by Oleg V. Volkoff in Bulletin de la Société d'Archéologie Copte, Vol 22, 1974-1975 with the title "Une tentative d'union entre l'Eglise Copte et l'Eglise Orthodoxe Russe" pp.169-176. It was reprinted by Le Monde Copte Vol 5, 1978 and can be found here..

I used Google to translate and cleaned it up as best I could (I don't speak French either). If you want it let me know.

If you really courageous, you can download Archimandrite Ouspenksy's original book Вероучение, богослужение и правила церковного благочиния египетских христиан (коптов) in pre-Revolution Russian. It describes his ideas and research on the Copts. I was not able to find Ouspensky's book "Le Pa­triarcat d'Alexandrie. Recueil de matériaux, de re­cherches et de notes concernant l'histoire du Patriarcat d'Alexandrie, T. I. St. Petersbourg, 1898" where he described the dialogue.
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Here in Brazil there is a big movement of ''calvinization'' among pentecostals, lots of young seminarists, pastors and theology amateur students are getting more and more interested in the Institutes, John Calvin, TULIP, 5 point calvinism...they are way more radical than born and raised calvinists that are ok, but those calvinist that came from pentecostalism they are usually quite agressive in defending their faith, sometimes making fun of arminianism, with jokes and memes and sometimes saying that calvinism IS THE GOSPEL, they are known for sharing tons of effect quates from Paul Washer, Sproul, Piper...

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Convert Issues / Re: On the requirement of a life confession
« Last post by Thomas on Yesterday at 03:44:11 PM »
Life confession helps to be more ready for the fresh start that Baptism and Chrismation offer, it is not required but may help you as a catechumen to make the new start. The basic point is do what your Priest requires for you to receive baptism and Chrismation.
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