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 on: Today at 04:43:49 PM 
Started by Porter ODoran - Last post by TheTrisagion
Do the Amish believe that all non-Amish are going to hell?

 72 
 on: Today at 04:41:58 PM 
Started by Porter ODoran - Last post by Porter ODoran
Has your family shunning you since leaving the Amish faith?

I left a sect that comprises about half reactionary Mennonites and half freedom-seeking Amish. Their practice of the ban is inconsistent. However, when I was excommunicated, by family sent me a letter (I wasn't nearby at that time) deciding to reduce me to one letter a year on my birthday. Fortunately, for various reasons, by now (twenty years later) we're all back in touch and mostly on good terms. I do have one childhood friend who still won't eat with me in his house (a classic implementation of the ban).

The ban itself is an interesting subject, historically. It arose when Hoffman had been imprisoned and a radical Dominican named Dirk Philips, a brother of one of Hoffman's first followers, came and took the reins of the church. Based on his letters and contemporary accounts, he seems to have been a vicious partisan, soon reducing the Mennonites (tho they were not yet known that way) to a fifth their size -- and his favorite tool was the ban. He was the only Mennonite or Amish leader, as far as I know, to insist it be practiced in the marriage bed.

 73 
 on: Today at 04:41:31 PM 
Started by JamesR - Last post by byhisgrace
The theory behind the "naturalistic arguments" is that one can have a basic understanding of God simply by observing creation, based on an understanding of Romans 1:19-20
What does it mean to observe creation?
Seeing from creation that there has to be a divine maker, an intelligent designer if you will.

 74 
 on: Today at 04:40:35 PM 
Started by SouthSerb99 - Last post by SolEX01
After a rough start to their season, it's nice to see Beast Mode and the Legion of Boom back on top both in winning percentage (one of 5 NFC teams with the same 11-4 record) and in fewest points allowed (among all NFL teams, not just the NFC).

Dallas-Pittsburgh IV looks like an intriguing Super Bowl matchup....

Indeed! With a victory we would erase from memory our humiliating defeat last time!

If Seattle and Dallas meet in the playoffs, Tony Romo would have to expunge the demons from his fumbled FG attempt and defeat Seattle.
Of all the teams going to the playoffs, there will be none that I root harder against than Dallas.

Dallas is very motivated - wanting a 9th SB appearance and tying Pittsburgh with 6 wins.  Plus, they haven't won a SB with Jerry Jones as owner/GM God (I think they had a GM in the 90's when they won 3 SBs).
As a Steelers fan, I will be petitioning every saint I can think of to prevent that from happening.

If Elder Troy of Polamalu was more like Ray Lewis, he would be deserving of a Lombardi to end his career.  Alas, Elder Troy ought to be thankful that he has one and should not glorify himself in seeking a second Lombardi.   Wink

 75 
 on: Today at 04:39:56 PM 
Started by JamesR - Last post by NicholasMyra
The theory behind the "naturalistic arguments" is that one can have a basic understanding of God simply by observing creation, based on an understanding of Romans 1:19-20
What does it mean to observe creation?

 76 
 on: Today at 04:38:32 PM 
Started by JamesR - Last post by TheTrisagion
I try not to answers questions like "How do you know God exists?" I've never met anyone argued into the Kingdom of God.

 77 
 on: Today at 04:37:25 PM 
Started by JamesR - Last post by Volnutt
Here is what I don't understand. Here are the Seven Sorrows:

    The Prophecy of Simeon. (Luke 2:34–35) or the Circumcision of Christ
    The Flight into Egypt. (Matthew 2:13)
    The loss of the child Jesus in the Temple. (Luke 2:43–45)
    Mary meets Jesus on the way to Calvary.
    Jesus dies on the cross. (John 19:25)
    The piercing of the side of Jesus, and Mary's receiving the body of Jesus in her arms. (Matthew 27:57–59)
    The body of Jesus is placed in the tomb. (John 19:40–42)

Some of those are things that no mother should ever have to experience, but some of them are not really all that tragic. Circumcision? Lots of women have their sons circumcised without great sorrow. Losing your child in the temple?  Moms lose track of their children all the time, most of the time, it is upsetting, but not the equivalent of a dagger to the heart. No one made a statue of my mother with a dagger in it when she lost me for several hours in a department store when I was young.

I'm not trying to be trite or in anyway disrespect the Theotokos, but I think it distorts her humanity to say that she sustained a greater emotional impact than any other mother would at these events. She knew Christ was the Son of God and she experienced extreme pain at the loss of her Son, as much as any mother could, but I can't see how it hurt her more than the mother in Iraq who sees terrorists butcher her child for being a Christian.  There is a common element of humanity that helps us relate to the Theotokos and understand her pain just like we can better relate to God because of Christ's incarnation. To remove that and say it is far beyond our comprehension distorts the power of the Incarnation.
Makes sense. I hadn't read the Seven Sorrows in a long time.

 78 
 on: Today at 04:35:45 PM 
Started by orthoreader - Last post by TheTrisagion
No idea what first amendment is, but it seems Metr. Hilarion visited Macedonia with the knowledge of Serbian Church.
https://www.facebook.com/orthodox.christian.news/posts/1671685479724720
Sorry, you can't be on the internet if you don't uphold 'Murican laws as universally inspired.


 79 
 on: Today at 04:33:33 PM 
Started by JamesR - Last post by byhisgrace
Or you could realize that apologetics doesn't fill a hungry belly or calm an agitated soul.
I know. That's why Evangelism doesn't stop with the veracity of the Resurrection, but the message of the Gospel itself.

 80 
 on: Today at 04:32:50 PM 
Started by SouthSerb99 - Last post by TheTrisagion
After a rough start to their season, it's nice to see Beast Mode and the Legion of Boom back on top both in winning percentage (one of 5 NFC teams with the same 11-4 record) and in fewest points allowed (among all NFL teams, not just the NFC).

Dallas-Pittsburgh IV looks like an intriguing Super Bowl matchup....

Indeed! With a victory we would erase from memory our humiliating defeat last time!

If Seattle and Dallas meet in the playoffs, Tony Romo would have to expunge the demons from his fumbled FG attempt and defeat Seattle.
Of all the teams going to the playoffs, there will be none that I root harder against than Dallas.

Dallas is very motivated - wanting a 9th SB appearance and tying Pittsburgh with 6 wins.  Plus, they haven't won a SB with Jerry Jones as owner/GM God (I think they had a GM in the 90's when they won 3 SBs).
As a Steelers fan, I will be petitioning every saint I can think of to prevent that from happening.

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