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 71 
 on: Yesterday at 04:00:42 PM 
Started by Balthasar - Last post by SolEX01
Keep trying to wrap that pretty bow around this turd of a document, Maria. Unless you want to take the time to read it, in which case I suppose you might realise you'd better stop.

Pretty bow? I have not said that this encyclical is pretty. The gossip in it is simply atrocious.

You're right, what I said was a gross mischaracterization, and I apologize  Undecided

No problem. I am beginning to wonder if the two bishops aren't agent provocateurs.

They might join the GOC since they've already anathematized the EP and Church of Greece.   Wink

Not likely:   http://www.oodegr.com/english/ekklisia/sxismata/oldcalendarists_repent.htm

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Thus everyone can perceive how, by being outside the Church, every kind of instability that is not consistent with the truth of the eternal Logos of God can infiltrate easily, and also how uncritical zealotism and soul-destroying Ecumenism comprise the two sides of the same coin of fallacy, which cuts one off from communion with the living God.

A lot can change in 5 years.   Cheesy

Since Met. Seraphim is not taken seriously by most people, chances are that he will find himself as a lone hierarch or a hermit within five years unless he also repents. He seems to be closing all doors.

Christ is Risen!

The GOC doesn't want Met. Seraphim for his anti-Catholic and anti-ecumenist stance.   Shocked

 72 
 on: Yesterday at 03:56:43 PM 
Started by Balthasar - Last post by Maria
Keep trying to wrap that pretty bow around this turd of a document, Maria. Unless you want to take the time to read it, in which case I suppose you might realise you'd better stop.

Pretty bow? I have not said that this encyclical is pretty. The gossip in it is simply atrocious.

You're right, what I said was a gross mischaracterization, and I apologize  Undecided

No problem. I am beginning to wonder if the two bishops aren't agent provocateurs.

They might join the GOC since they've already anathematized the EP and Church of Greece.   Wink

Not likely:   http://www.oodegr.com/english/ekklisia/sxismata/oldcalendarists_repent.htm

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Thus everyone can perceive how, by being outside the Church, every kind of instability that is not consistent with the truth of the eternal Logos of God can infiltrate easily, and also how uncritical zealotism and soul-destroying Ecumenism comprise the two sides of the same coin of fallacy, which cuts one off from communion with the living God.

A lot can change in 5 years.   Cheesy

Since Met. Seraphim is not taken seriously by most people, chances are that he will find himself as a lone hierarch or a hermit within five years unless he also repents. He seems to be closing all doors.

 73 
 on: Yesterday at 03:55:17 PM 
Started by SolEX01 - Last post by SolEX01
Christ is Risen!

Modern translations of the Holy Week services have translated the Greek, νυμφωνά, as Wedding Hall as opposed to Bridal Chamber.  Does this make sense?

I see your Wedding Hall adored O My Saviour....  Huh

 74 
 on: Yesterday at 03:53:52 PM 
Started by God Bless3232 - Last post by Mor Ephrem
Quote from: Paschal Rubrics
During all this week of Renewal, which is reckoned to be one radiant day, we have permission for everything.

Source

Wink





Don't get too excited, guys, it doesn't mean what you think. 

 75 
 on: Yesterday at 03:52:33 PM 
Started by William - Last post by WPM
There is information and official prayers in the back of the NKJV Orthodox NewTestament Bible.

 76 
 on: Yesterday at 03:50:33 PM 
Started by Jetavan - Last post by David Young
I suppose it depends what one means by "the Gospel". The phrase is often used to refer to the invitation to sinners to come to God through Christ and receive forgiveness and new life, and ultimately glorifucation. But the phrase can also be used to denote the whole of the Christian revelation. I would prefer to say, not that "Calvinism is a distortion of the Gospel", but rather that it contains the Gospel but leaves a lot out. Here in Wales most revivals have been led by Calvinists, from the 18th century onwards, though not (I think) the 1904-5 awakening. In England, the side of the 18th century awakening led by George Whitefield and his associates was Calvinistic. Scotland has been thoroughly Calvinist. God was pleased to use those preachers, and those movements, as channels to bring many sinners to Christ, who now (I have no doubt) are in Paradise with Christ, awaiting the resurrection of the just. But (in my personal view) Calvinism goes wrong in two ways: (1) it leaves out other truths, such as that Christ died for all, that God extends a sincere invitation to all mankind to come in repentance and Christian faith, and that that call of grace can be resisted; and (2) it seeks to answer questions God has not answered, and has created a logical, philosophical sealed system with no loose ends and no mystery.

I also feel (and many on this forum will disagree) that we all distort the Gospel. I think we Evangelicals under-emphasise the resurrection of Christ (and of the believer), whilst focusing almost exclusively on Christ's redemptive death and the forgiveness of sins committed. But my reading of Orthodoxy leads me to the conviction that Orthodoxy concentrates on the resurrrection to the extent of under-emphasising the Atonement achieved at Calvary. One could give other examples, but the point is made.

 77 
 on: Yesterday at 03:50:19 PM 
Started by William - Last post by William
I found the practice in the back of an old rite prayer book, but it only has rules for the daily cycle. 3 kathisma for matins, 1 for most else. Maybe Hawkeye would know more.

 78 
 on: Yesterday at 03:48:50 PM 
Started by William - Last post by Maria
Christ is risen!

When one misses liturgy, how many kathismata should he pray? Are there any in particular that he should pray or can he choose whichever?

Whenever we cannot attend the Divine Liturgy, my husband and I chant/pray the Reader's Typica. We chant the appropriate troparia and kontakia, and we also include the readings from the Bible. One can also pray the Divine Liturgy, but then substitute "Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy" for any priestly prayers of the Holy Service.

Praying the Kathismata is lovely, usually three are recommended, but one does not get the sense of the Liturgical cycle. If one is stranded without a Bible, then reciting the Jesus Prayer is also recommended. A priest told me that reciting the Jesus Prayer 300 times is appropriate. This I did while in the hospital with pneumonia on Pascha years ago. I could not sleep due to all the beeping monitors anyway, so I timed the Jesus Prayer to the beat of those monitors.

 79 
 on: Yesterday at 03:45:10 PM 
Started by Jetavan - Last post by Skydive
It is, I think, only fair to say that I was amongst Calvinistic Baptists 1971-6 and found some saintly, humble souls with a deep, lasting love for the Lord. Whatever the shortcomings of the system around them, they had undoubtedly found the Lord within it and walked with him as closely as people I've met from a range of other denominations. "The Lord knows those who are his," and I thank God for them.

I am sure that is true, but that does not change the fact that Calvinism is a serious distortion of the Gospel.

Fr. John W. Morris

yet you cannot say how.
Actually, I think he's done a pretty good job of explaining how Calvinism is a distortion of the Gospel.

Our theology and history preaches predestination in some form.. So I really don't see him or anyone giving another alternative based on the church's standing.

 80 
 on: Yesterday at 03:44:37 PM 
Started by God Bless3232 - Last post by WPM
I would rather replace masturbation with intimacy with a partner.

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