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Convert Issues / Re: Bible version used?
« Last post by NicholasMyra on Today at 02:46:29 PM »
The Lord's Prayer, from The Message:
If every translation were discounted based on its kerfuffles, we wouldn't have anything left.
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For example, the incoming Yale freshmen were encouraged to read a pornographic book during their summer break. Some students opted out.

I have no idea which book you're talking about, but I'd be surprised if it's considered to be 'pornographic' outside of the narrow confines of the soccer moms' minds.

Does religion have to equal puritanism?

Some students opted out.

A pathetic lot who've shown that they lack the academic mentality.
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For example, the incoming Yale freshmen were encouraged to read a pornographic book during their summer break. Some students opted out.

I always preferred the labs to the lectures.
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I remember my freshman year at a Catholic university and the horrid books that were on the Freshman English book list as part of their accreditation requirements.
Accrediting agencies don't supply colleges with reading lists.
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodoxy and sex!
« Last post by Agabus on Today at 02:40:38 PM »
I was ready for some good young fogey trolling, not a walk down memory lane.
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Liturgy / Re: Origins of Orthodox Vestments From the History of Vestments
« Last post by wgw on Today at 02:32:33 PM »
So what headgear do newly ordained priests wear?
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http://www.catholiccompany.com/disorientation-how-to-go-to-college-without-losing-your-mind-i30743/

Is there an Orthodox Christian equivalent on this topic for our Orthodox youth as they prepare for college so they will not lose their faith?

I have read on several church websites that priests have special classes geared towards their graduating high school seniors so that they will be better prepared for college.

These priests believe in preparing the youth to withstand profound attacks on their faith.

For example, the incoming Yale freshmen were encouraged to read a pornographic book during their summer break. Some students opted out.

I remember my freshman year at a Catholic university and the horrid books that were on the Freshman English book list as part of their accreditation requirements.
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodoxy and sex!
« Last post by wgw on Today at 02:30:58 PM »
The Song of Solomon itself is quite risque.  In fact, a good argument for retaining liturgical languages is for use whenever it might come up in the lectionary.
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Faith Issues / Re: Return to Orthodoxy
« Last post by Cyrillic on Today at 02:25:24 PM »
As I try now to return to Eastern Orthodoxy, having better clarity on the differences, I am excommunicated during the process of penitence, because of wanting more in-depth information that would clarify the differences for me, and also for wanting to still stay with my family:  I do not wish to break off from them, in all most important ways we are still deeply connected.  Hi-ranking CONVERT Orthodox clergy (I am a native) seem to demand that I break my own identity, DNA, blood, family bonds, ethnic extended family, and deep appreciation of the Christian faith that holds our people together -- even though I have found the distinction in the important doctrinal differences that would take me back to Eastern Orthodoxy.  All of these other things are non-doctrinal issues, which they impose unreasonably on me. 

Could you elaborate on that? I have no idea what it's about.
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My point in this thread is you can be wrong religiously and still understand and make good art including painting and drama. St. Gregory's is as if Catholic liberals had taste, not surprising since they're Episcopalians. No anti-elitist, inverted-snobbish class prejudice against art (we're Irish; that artsy stuff is pretentious, "English"), open-minded enough to appropriate other people's traditions (which can be rude; your point) rather than parrot all the Western liberal assumptions from 50 years ago (no incense; guitars, not chant!). I understand they offend because their content is wrong, since they're outside our churches. But they capture the feeling of Eastern rites and for that I give them due credit.

Agreed.  The fact these people are worshipping in this manner indicates a desire for liturgy but a confusion regarding doctrine.  The priest of that church however, who claims their liturgy is based on his "extensive research" is a wolf in sheep's clothing in so far as he is feeding them just enough to keep them in this impassioned state while denying them access to a genuine expression of piety.
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