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 61 
 on: April 17, 2014, 05:49:43 AM 
Started by Asteriktos - Last post by Asteriktos
St. Paul

He only mentioned actions and people "giving into" their twisted desires; he never condemned "orientation" in itself, although, I imagine that homosexuals are expected to stay chaste even in their heart and mind, just as Christ commanded heterosexual people.

Please reread the original post. Then Rom 1. Smiley

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 on: April 17, 2014, 05:48:04 AM 
Started by Asteriktos - Last post by Asteriktos
I suppose Paul doesn't count does he?



Not for this thread, no. He didn't explicitly teach or argue what I am asking about, and at most we can only read into certain statements of his the idea, though frankly I don't think you can do even that in a fair way.

 63 
 on: April 17, 2014, 05:25:02 AM 
Started by JoeZollars - Last post by Cyrillic
Joseph de Maistre - Considerations sur la France

 64 
 on: April 17, 2014, 05:07:46 AM 
Started by Asteriktos - Last post by Nicene
I suppose Paul doesn't count does he?


 65 
 on: April 17, 2014, 04:01:44 AM 
Started by Albertan - Last post by Cyrillic
Many people and clergy in the UOC-MP (and NOT Galicians) are seriously contemplating going over to Constantinople.

Why not? The MP illegitimately usurped the Ukrainian Church from Constantinople in 1686, and given recent events a correction of an "historical injustice," to quote the president of Russia, wouldn't be out of place.

 66 
 on: April 17, 2014, 03:51:41 AM 
Started by Albertan - Last post by Gorazd
Many people and clergy in the UOC-MP (and NOT Galicians) are seriously contemplating going over to Constantinople.



Byron and Dalibor, have you even been to Ukraine?

 67 
 on: April 17, 2014, 03:39:05 AM 
Started by Albertan - Last post by Cyrillic
Unfortunately, The Ukraine has fallen under the spell the catholic Galicians and its baptist "president". The Ukraine will continue to go down the path of destruction unless it get rids of these bad influences.

So, how are you going to get rid of the Galicians? Ethnic cleansing?

Why so drastic? Galicia needs to be separated from Ukraine or given back to Poland.

The Galicians seem to be doing fine in Ukraine and don't seem to be in need of your solutions.

 68 
 on: April 17, 2014, 03:32:12 AM 
Started by Albertan - Last post by Dalibor
Unfortunately, The Ukraine has fallen under the spell the catholic Galicians and its baptist "president". The Ukraine will continue to go down the path of destruction unless it get rids of these bad influences.

So, how are you going to get rid of the Galicians? Ethnic cleansing?

Why so drastic? Galicia needs to be separated from Ukraine or given back to Poland.

 69 
 on: April 17, 2014, 03:29:23 AM 
Started by Nephi - Last post by PeterTheAleut
The evening service on Good Friday is the Lamentations of Christ or the Matins of Holy Saturday.

The other service is the Unnailing of Christ from the Cross - usually at 3 PM.

This OCA parish doesn't do Lamentations, but has the Unnailing/winding-cloth Vespers at 6. I'll for sure be attending that one either way, for my first time.

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Some churches perform the royal hours immediately after the Thursday night Passion (e.g. Matins of Holy Friday) - others perform them on Friday morning.

This parish has both Matins (7:30 am) and 6th/9th Royal Hours (11:00 am) on Friday morning. Which of these two would be more important?
If by Matins you mean what many other parishes read on Thursday night as the Passion Vigil, the service with the 12 Passion Gospel readings, then I would consider this the more important. The Royal Hours basically recap the same readings, except that each Hour focuses on the Passion narrative according to only one of the four Gospels (all four Gospels covered over the course of all the Royal Hours: 1st, 3rd, 6th, and 9th). The Matins of Holy Friday (Vigil if read on Thursday night) covers the whole Passion narrative from the time Judas Iscariot left the Last Supper to commit his act of treason all the way to Christ's death and burial, and from all four Gospels. If you cannot attend both Matins and the Royal Hours, then Matins is the one I would advise you to attend.

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 on: April 17, 2014, 03:25:41 AM 
Started by Albertan - Last post by Cyrillic
Unfortunately, The Ukraine has fallen under the spell the catholic Galicians and its baptist "president". The Ukraine will continue to go down the path of destruction unless it get rids of these bad influences.

So, how are you going to get rid of the Galicians? Ethnic cleansing?

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