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Just wondering if anyone here who is able to understand the language(s) can say something about how Croatian news media reported on the visit.
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Diego on Today at 12:08:03 AM »
Interesting. Well, its nice to know we Lutherans aren't the only ones with the issue! LCMS technically communes only LCMS and the other 35 or so Churches in the world that are in full Altar Fellowship with it. In reality, however, the Pastor is free to make a Pastoral decision to permit others. MOST Pastors who choose to do this would probably only permit other Lutherans to commune, but some do permit anyone who believes in the Real and Objective Presence of Christ in the Eucharist to commune. And since we don't have Bishops, its kind of allowed.

Aha. Thank you for the definitions.

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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by RaphaCam on Yesterday at 11:56:12 PM »
What is SOC, and what is ROCA-PSCA?
Syriac Orthodox Church (the dominant Oriental Orthodox jurisdiction in Latin America) and Russian Orthodox Church Abroad - Provisional Supreme Chuch Authority (a Russian Orthodox jurisdiction outside of communion with mainstream Eastern Orthodoxy).
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Diego on Yesterday at 11:51:40 PM »
What is SOC, and what is ROCA-PSCA?
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Onesimus on Yesterday at 11:50:05 PM »
Typically there needs to be either the intent to become EO or some other extenuating circumstances that allow for this.   It's not as if a person can just do it because they want to or think the differences aren't important.   Sickness, inability to travel, family matters...these are the kinds of things that are typically valid.   As I understand it, bishops from both communions must come to an agreement as to reception in individual cases.   Whether / how that ha-pens is above my pay grade.
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Christian News / Re: Historicial visit of patriarch Bartholomew to Croatia
« Last post by RaphaCam on Yesterday at 11:44:27 PM »
Is there a lot of hate between the average Serb and the average Croat? People in the internet are mostly so hateful but it's hard to take an actual picture. Everybody was telling me terrible things about Macedonians and their feelings toward other nations and I thought there would be so much taboo but I was relieved to see my Macedonian clients laughing with Bosniaks and Serbs. I also met two Greeks who were fond of Macedonia in this period.
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by RaphaCam on Yesterday at 11:38:35 PM »
I wouldn't do it, for two reasons. One disciplinary, the other of principles.

My disciplinary reason is that I feel I should abide to the rules of the Eastern Orthodox Communion, and therefore to her cannonical boundaries. To mention three Orthodox groups existing in my area, I wouldn't commune in the SOC not because of mia physis, but for the same reason I wouldn't commune in ROCA-PSCA or Greek Old Calendar.

My matter of principle is that I feel if our churches are meant to be together, we must still understand what happened over the last 15 centuries and repent. I'm new in this debate but I personally don't like the idea of pretending nothing happened.
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Onesimus on Yesterday at 11:36:05 PM »
^ It's complicated.   It comes down to bishop's discretion and its case by case.   In Lebanon, Syria, etc. it's commonplace as far as I understand.
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Diego on Yesterday at 11:30:56 PM »
So the EO permit the OO to commune and vice-versa? I know the RCC (theoretically) permit the EO, the OO, the PNCC, and the Church of the East to commune. It urges them to respect the discipline of their Churches in the process.

An even better question might be the following: How close are the EO and the OO to actually healing the breach between them? I am very curious as to that point.
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: Reception of the Eucharist
« Last post by Onesimus on Yesterday at 11:15:57 PM »
We have several OO (coptic & ethiopian) who attend and commune at our Church.  Though I live in San Francisco where there are no OO churches, there are 6 within an hour drive, three of which are within 30 mins. My sponsor for chrismation was a Coptic Christian, but has been part of EO Churches for years.   I think he communes at both when traveling to Egypt, or on occasion here...but its the exception for him.

I'll ask him more about it when I see him and see if he has anything to contribute.     





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