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Religious Topics / Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Last post by Indocern on Today at 12:27:29 PM »
Don't you all say that God love sinners. If satan is sinner why God not love him?
God loves everyone but as long as the devil remains unrepentant, he is the enemy, more over Christ refers to him as the father of all lies and murderer from the beginning, hardly a "good guy".

I think you are in need of help, you hold on to some very wild theories and heretical ideas...

Yes, maybe he is evil, dengerous but he is right that I don't have where to go out. Our city is very small and I don't like to live here. I also can't go out I don't have nobody with whom to go out. Maybe mr. Lucifer have someone in mind.
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Even for those who knew KOINE GREEK, they still twisted Paul's words.

Thou must be referring to your ancient Orthodox scholars.
And please don't tell us that they were relying on the Spirit for clarification.
If so, may we see some refs to their praising God for being led by the Spirit?
However, it seems when I request an ancient proof, none is forthcoming.

"Those led by God's Spirit are sons of God." (Romans 8:1)

Doesn't mention being led by the ancient Orthodox scholars, traditions of men, etc.
Matter of fact, the NT warns against them (tom).
Good olde tom ... no gender ... must be an it, or a them.

Or, we could go with "the doctrines of men" ... we call 'em dom.
Jesus, Paul, Peter ... warn against these tom and dom.
Tom and Dom ... twin brothers! ... very dangerous!
Not like the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit ... not at all.
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Faith Issues / Re: Canonical situation with the French Orthodox Church?
« Last post by RaphaCam on Today at 12:22:19 PM »
Basically the same situation as the Lusitanian Orthodox Church: Westerners decided to build national authentic Orthodoxy from scratch, were eventually received by a canonical synod, then some inner problems arose and the synod cut the primate off, after which many followed him, although keeping the Orthodox Catholic faith. Fortunately the Brazilian Orthodox Church managed not to be thrown into this sad fate and returned to Polish omophorion.

The EP has a decent presence in Brazil.  I know of a good number of UOCofUSA parishes are there.
Yeah, it does, we have a large Ukrainian community, mostly Eastern Catholic, but some Orthodox faithful too. But I was specifically talking about Orthodox Christians under Archbishop Chrysostom of Rio and Bishop Ambrose of Recife, who are occasionally referred to as the "Brazilian Orthodox Church", but are part of the Polish Orthodox Church, which was a difficult situation to sustain after Portuguese bishops entered in schism. But we managed to do it, which could be an example to groups in similar canonical situations.
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Rakovsky,
I know it will be a piece of cake for YOU to provide me with a link
which shows that your ancient fathers of the Orthodox Church taught …
Jesus was called “the Son of God” because He was “fathered” by God, the Holy Spirit.
I’m just wondering who the first Orthodox theologian was to realize this.
Or, if you don’t know who the first one was, anyone will do.
Many thanks!
(We do agree that the Holy Spirit is God, right? And we agree that
He was responsible for the Fetus being in Mary’s blessed womb?)

I'm presuming that my pal, Rakovsky, has not all of a sudden disappeared off the planet.
I sure hope and pray that he's still with us.

You don't know Rakovsky.  He's like the energizer bunny that just keeps going.  Be patient
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  So let's not delude ourselves on how "plain and obvious" Scripture is.

I thought I have been espousing repeatedly that we need to rely on the Holy Spirit for clarification.

I use a Greek lexicon, and W.E.Vine, and Strong's ... for the supposed meaning of words!

That just proves that Scripture is not obvious and plain.  Even for those who knew KOINE GREEK, they still twisted Paul's words.

Sola Scriptura is not Scriptural.
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Rakovsky,
I know it will be a piece of cake for YOU to provide me with a link
which shows that your ancient fathers of the Orthodox Church taught …
Jesus was called “the Son of God” because He was “fathered” by God, the Holy Spirit.
I’m just wondering who the first Orthodox theologian was to realize this.
Or, if you don’t know who the first one was, anyone will do.
Many thanks!
(We do agree that the Holy Spirit is God, right? And we agree that
He was responsible for the Fetus being in Mary’s blessed womb?)

I'm presuming that my pal, Rakovsky, has not all of a sudden disappeared off the planet.
I sure hope and pray that he's still with us.
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Define "persecuted" or I shall assail thee with stinging taunts.

Be my guest while you answer:
So, what is your #1 pet peeve ... which of the doctrines I have discussed?
IOW, details, please!

It's not what you discussed; it's how you discuss it.  You seem to portray yourself in an arrogant manner.  This is why many people here respond sarcastically to you.
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Christian News / Pope Francis receives new Mitre
« Last post by Bob2 on Today at 12:18:53 PM »
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  So let's not delude ourselves on how "plain and obvious" Scripture is.

I thought I have been espousing repeatedly that we need to rely on the Holy Spirit for clarification.

I use a Greek lexicon, and W.E.Vine, and Strong's ... for the supposed meaning of words!

My deepest and most profound apologies for not being a Greek scholar.

BTW, I have perceived that Vine is probably OSAS, so I keep this in mind when consulting him.
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Religious Topics / Re: UOC-KP's delegation received in the Phanar
« Last post by LizaSymonenko on Today at 12:17:44 PM »

I'm not certain what your point is here.

Christ often met with and lunched with all manner of sinners...so...what difference does it make whom these people are?

I met the Patriarch of Jerusalem last year.  Nobody did a background check to see if I was worthy to get his blessing.

May I ask... Whether ALL sort of meeting are OK, then why Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew was so angry about Greek clergymen visiting Moldova and Georgia and speaking there on the Council in Crete at the invitation of local hierarchs?

Well...neither I, nor the gentlemen referred to were clergy.  Where the Church is concerned (and her clergy, or official representatives of her), there is always proper protocol that needs to be adhered to.
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