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Other Topics / Re: Random Postings
« Last post by Asteriktos on Yesterday at 07:31:31 PM »
It's times like these that I wish I played the lottery.
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Orthodox-Other Christian Discussion / Re: Another psuedo-Orthodox Church?
« Last post by Aram on Yesterday at 07:08:43 PM »
I'll say it: I take a slightly deranged enjoyment in reading the biographies and apostolic succession statements from all of these various churches. Nothing like Archbishop Metropolitan Mor Thomas Herbert Engelbert IV of the Apostolic See of Wahoo, Nebraska, who received his consecration in a living room from a guy with mismatched homemade vestments and is now Christ's Vicar to the Western Hemisphere. The longer the qualifiers, the better. These people are fascinating.
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Other Topics / Re: Need a new lawnmower
« Last post by RobS on Yesterday at 06:55:18 PM »

Is this what you do on your afternoon walks Mor?
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Other Topics / Re: Need a new lawnmower
« Last post by Mor Ephrem on Yesterday at 06:54:24 PM »
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Other Topics / Re: Random Postings
« Last post by Mor Ephrem on Yesterday at 06:45:57 PM »
That's not even a Haiku. Who is Mor Ephrem trying to impress?

No one Japanese, anyway.
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Orthodox-Other Christian Discussion / Re: Another psuedo-Orthodox Church?
« Last post by Mor Ephrem on Yesterday at 06:20:07 PM »
Haven't the Syriac and/or Malankara Churches expressly denied the validity of vagante lines claiming to originate with them?

I don't think so, at least not "expressly".  In a roundabout way, sure (e.g., "These groups have and have had no connection to us").  We are more likely to make such a declaration with regard to groups that pose a real threat to us, but no one is threatened by Mar Ellis Jackson IV and the members of the Holy Syro-Coptic Orthodox Russian Anglo-Catholic Apostolic Universal Church of Columbia Heights. 
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Faith Issues / Re: Were the Church Fathers Subordinationist?
« Last post by Porter ODoran on Yesterday at 06:09:22 PM »
I understand that to get Mina's input you have to go like this:

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Religious Topics / Re: Help Mor Ephrem Make a Minor Life Decision
« Last post by Mor Ephrem on Yesterday at 06:00:23 PM »
This year it's going to be served first time at my parish (but, unfortunately, according to the old calendar) - in Polish Church only some parishes serve it, and rather not on the vigil, but on the 3rd day of the Dormition. Such practice doesn't make sense for me, since the serivce is very paralle to Great Saturday Matins, and Dormition is called "Summer Pascha", so how lamentations and sadness and reflection of the Great Saturday can be on the 3rd day of Pascha?...

Maybe it's connected with the tradition that the apostles visited her tomb on the third day after her death and saw it was empty?  There are different layers of symbolism that probably do not mesh neatly, but it is a recent innovation.  ;)
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Faith Issues / Re: Were the Church Fathers Subordinationist?
« Last post by scamandrius on Yesterday at 06:00:08 PM »
A lot of the scholarly work I have been reading on the Trinity in the early Church tend to favor the view that the Church Fathers held to Subordinationism beyond just in the relational sense. I have been reading the Fathers alongside, and as much as I don't like admitting it, it really seems like they are. Does anyone have additional information? Anything to the contrary?

Try reading the actual fathers themselves rather than books merely ABOUT them and their thinking.  It will be worth it.



That's what I have been doing.

Sorry.  When you say "scholarly work" I assumed you were reading books by scholars about the fathers.

Well, I am. I am reading both.

Then why not read them on their own without the intermediaries?
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Haven't the Syriac and/or Malankara Churches expressly denied the validity of vagante lines claiming to originate with them?
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