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 51 
 on: Yesterday at 11:04:50 PM 
Started by Yurysprudentsiya - Last post by LBK
From Chapter 28 of the Russian Typikon:

On disorderly cries

Disorderly cries by the church singers ought not to be allowed in church singing. And those who make them are not allowed either. Let them be removed from their ministry, and sing in the church no more. For it is proper to sing according to the order, and with one accord to glorify the Master and Lord of all, as if coming from our hearts through one mouth. Those who disobey are condemned to eternal torture, since they do not follow the tradition and rules of the Holy Fathers.

 Grin Grin Grin

 52 
 on: Yesterday at 11:04:01 PM 
Started by biro - Last post by biro
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/local/somerset-county/2014/10/22/years-faith-manville/17658445/

Although next year will be the big 100, the parish of St. Peter and St. Paul in Manville, New Jersey is already in a festive mood.

From the article:
Quote
In 1915, a small group of worshipers rented a building in a lumber yard on North Main Street. With just the bare necessities, the parishioners, many of whom came to Manville to work at the Johns Manville Corporation, built a strong bond. Their ethnic backgrounds were mostly from Russia, Ukraine and other Eastern bloc countries. In 1916, the parish purchased the property where the church sits today, constructing an 18-by-37-foot wooden chapel. This structure was destroyed by fire in 1922, was rebuilt, and again destroyed by fire in 1935. The current building was then constructed and has been the church’s home ever since.

 53 
 on: Yesterday at 11:00:10 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by kelly
My favorite picture of my Bishop, His Grace Bishop John of Caracas and South America (Ministering to the Old Rite Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia):





Very cool! You are Old Rite?

 54 
 on: Yesterday at 10:59:58 PM 
Started by charbelkaleab - Last post by Paisius
Why are you deliberately being provocative?   



Why are you allowing a picture on an internet forum to provoke you?

 55 
 on: Yesterday at 10:59:24 PM 
Started by Elijah - Last post by Sam G
My favorite picture of my Bishop, His Grace Bishop John of Caracas and South America (Ministering to the Old Rite Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia):




 56 
 on: Yesterday at 10:56:15 PM 
Started by kelly - Last post by Georgii
I want to say that shifty-looking old guy with the badge, but he isn't wearing a crown....well, I've never actually been able to see an orthodox wedding yet, so I dunno.

I haven't been to an Orthodox wedding for a long time either, much less my own, but the crowning comes after the exchange of rings.

Btw, the old guy's Order of St. Vladimir, Second Class pegs him as the governor of a province or major city, head of a ministerial department or the like.

 57 
 on: Yesterday at 10:53:06 PM 
Started by Yurysprudentsiya - Last post by Shlomlokh
Truth be told, many Slavic accustomed ears have a difficult time fully appreciating Byzantine Chant and many non Slavic accustomed ears have an equally tough time fully appreciating the disparate strands of Slavic chants and/or polyphonic choral singing. One of the greatest historical accomplishments of external Orthodoxy is that the Church has developed in such a manner that while liturgically we are the same (with very few significant regional differences) very different musical cultures have developed around that immutable liturgical core.
I started out in a Russian-style parish using polyphony. Once I was exposed to good Byzantine Chant, I could not handle polyphony any more. 4 part music even is too chaotic, IMHO.

In Christ,
Andrew

Hear, hear.

I've come to respect and even appreciate well chanted Byzantine music. But at the end of the day, I don't really like it and don't want to hear it in my church and that's a fair choice to make.

We can respect each other's traditions without picking sides.

Didn't you just pick a side?  Btw, I have heard plenty of horribly executed Carpatho-Russian chants.

I've probably heard more bad Rusyny and Halychan chant than you...and awful choirs whose directors probably should stick to simple Obichod or Kievan Chants.

But bad singing is still a heartfelt effort in most cases. It's not intentionally bad. I hate criticizing church singers as we have to work with the gifts we have. But practice surely helps regardless of tradition.
Absolutely. All for the glory of God, we hope!

In Christ,
Andrew

 58 
 on: Yesterday at 10:52:59 PM 
Started by Justin Kissel - Last post by Misplaced Book
While I would also applaud the idea that the mistreatment of Native American peoples should be highlighted and addressed, I would also agree with the point that some of them were more brutal than the Spaniards could ever have dreamed to be.


The Mexica (Aztecs) were an example.  If the term "savage" could be applied to a culture, it would be them.

Their sacrifices and devotion to Huitzilopochtli were infamous, and this is the reason why the Spanish didn't have a shortage of native allies to topple their empire.

 59 
 on: Yesterday at 10:51:21 PM 
Started by kelly - Last post by kelly
I like my version better.  Grin

 60 
 on: Yesterday at 10:49:27 PM 
Started by kelly - Last post by biro
Wowsers!

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