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 51 
 on: Today at 07:56:13 PM 
Started by Trevorthodox - Last post by Trevorthodox
"Often these immigrants were baptised as infants and haven't ever thought much about why they are Orthodox."

Sorry - it's these kind of assumptions that get on my last nerve.

If God spared me to live 100 years, I could never even come close to the beautiful, rock-solid faith of the yiayias I have met. Trust me, humility doesn't come natural to me, but I am so humbled by their faith and devotion.

I completely agree with you that yiayias are marvellous! I am not making assumptions about people because I am speaking about young people coming to England for education and employment. Precisely the ones who I know in my own community. It's often a first time away from home and family and some of them really do come to think about their faith. We care deeply to love and serve these students and migrant workers, too see their faith flourish in a foreign land.

 52 
 on: Today at 07:51:21 PM 
Started by john_mo - Last post by JamesR
Unfortunately child brides were rather common back then (as they are in many parts of the world today.) Including in ancient Israel. Including a famous saint we know about, who we might not want to call a potential child molester whose molestation was only averted by divine intervention.

Who?
he's talking about Joseph and Mary. Mor. See most scholars put Mary's age between 12 and 15 now Joseph and Mary were engaged before she was with child. Now see Joseph being in 50''s had a choice have  her stoned to death put her away silently or continue the marriage. We know how the story goes from there.

According to the Protoevangelium of St. James, she was 16 when this all happened--which is a lot different from the 6-9 age of Aisha. While that's still a pretty huge taboo in modern western society, it's no longer pedophilia since a 15-16 year old is (usually) sexually matured. I mean, I have my vices, and yet despite my well known infatuation with a 15 year old, I wouldn't consider myself a pedophile. That's also not to mention that according to the same account, St. Joseph only married her because God Himself commanded him to, and that he objected to it precisely on the grounds that he thought the age difference was too much. With that in mind, I don't think he had any intention of having sexual relations with her, and even if he did, I think sexual relations with a 15-16 year old is better than a 6-9 year old child.

EDIT: As for the stoning thing, I thought the Romans prohibited the Jews from executing someone unless they sought Roman approval? Hence why they needed to seek Pontus Pilate's permission when they wanted to kill Christ. In fact, wasn't that apocryphal story about the woman caught in adultery an attempt by the Jews to get Christ to violate the Roman law by executing someone without their permission?

 53 
 on: Today at 07:42:44 PM 
Started by xariskai - Last post by Peacemaker
Gonna head over to Dutch Bros Coffee because they are having a special in my town - $1 medium coffee of any sort.  laugh

 54 
 on: Today at 07:39:51 PM 
Started by Regnare - Last post by LenInSebastopol
One could think that the real sin is lust and, as such, that sin is between a person"s confessor and God.
Usually there is no repentance in that "lifestyle", thus there can be a denial of forgiveness.

One's language must be precise and careful in such, as it is not acceptable to "kill people" and stating it in simplistic terms is duplicitous.

As to the first pont above, it has been worked out well that there is acceptable behavior and circumstances in the death of another human being. It was with homosexuality as well until the 1970's when the psych community declassified this personality disorder and thus opened up the courts to address the issue in the public square which now begs the question everywhere including some churches.
As to point three, I do not know "the Orthodox position on every taking of a human life or homosexual behavior.  As to St. Basil's rule on the taking of life being a pennance, I find that PTSD was correctly diagnosed with a cure almost 1800 years ago, to show the wisdom of our Fathers, much the same used in dealing with the problem the OP is petitioning.

 55 
 on: Today at 07:38:23 PM 
Started by andrewlya - Last post by Jude1:3
Are there any sins that unforgivebale for God? I.e. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for example)




   One that I can think of off the top is The people who receive the Mark of The Beast and worship the the Beast.

*Revelation14:9-11
 
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man Worship the Beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be Tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
 And the smoke of their Torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who Worship the Beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 56 
 on: Today at 07:38:05 PM 
Started by andrewlya - Last post by Peacemaker
No one has ever gone to hell for sinning, only when they don't repent.  police

 57 
 on: Today at 07:34:23 PM 
Started by andrewlya - Last post by andrewlya
Can I also ask this...do Protestants believe that now since they are saved by the grace of faith,obedience to God (i.e. commandments) and Jesus's teachings as not as important as the belief in God and Christ?

I think the phrase "not as important" misses the point. Good works, and growth in holiness, are sought in every believer, and their importance are part of any real Christian life. The motivation is gratitude and a desire to please the God one loves. "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?" asks Paul the Apostle, and replies, "God forbid" or "By no means!" Such an attitude is wholly out of place in any Christian.

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Do Protestants believe that no matter what sins they commit they are saved anyway? Are there any sins , in Protestant's views, that can "unsave" a person?

It is debated, and different teachers and believers have different views. Calvinists believe it is impossible for a person to be lost once he is born again; he will endure to the end. The doctrine is the P of TULIP, where P stands for the Perseverance of the Saints. It is also called Eternal Security.
"Eternal Salvation" and "impossible for a person to be lost once he is born again", these concepts I had never come across before. So, even murderers and rapists will be saved as long as they have a faith? Do the Calvinists believe that at least they need to repent their sins?
And what verses of the Bible do Calvinists base such a belief of Eternal Security?

 58 
 on: Today at 07:31:35 PM 
Started by john_mo - Last post by xOrthodox4Christx
Unfortunately child brides were rather common back then (as they are in many parts of the world today.) Including in ancient Israel. Including a famous saint we know about, who we might not want to call a potential child molester whose molestation was only averted by divine intervention.

Who?
he's talking about Joseph and Mary. Mor. See most scholars put Mary's age between 12 and 15 now Joseph and Mary were engaged before she was with child. Now see Joseph being in 50''s had a choice have  her stoned to death put her away silently or continue the marriage. We know how the story goes from there.

Joseph didn't marry... Mary, for the sake of having sexual relations. It was a contract to protect the Theotokos and her Child. St. Joseph and Mary became engaged only to provide a safe environment for the Christ child.
really then why was Joseph going to put marry away silently invoking God to visit him in a dream to tell him not to do this and Mary was telling truth. Plus protestant believe Jesus had brothers and sisters I well know orthodoxy teaching on the theotokos just pointing that out to them

The bolded is obvious, because he knew what his community would think about it, the same things you are suggesting.

 59 
 on: Today at 07:28:58 PM 
Started by mikeforjesus - Last post by xOrthodox4Christx

Which Orthodoxy are you talking about? I don't think this site tolerates anything else than the Orthodox religion to be referred to as Orthodoxy much more with majuscule letter.

The Eastern Orthodox Church is what I was referring to. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches faith is a gift from God and not a work.

Faith itself is a gift from God. Being faithful is a work.

 60 
 on: Today at 07:28:07 PM 
Started by Arachne - Last post by hecma925
3:14am, I've been procrastinating on stuff and due to my stupid actions I'm now tired and am only going to get a little sleep.


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