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lol.  Maybe write a blog entitled "journeys to atheism".   Some Random dude and his authoritative thoughts on his newly aquired atheism.  The Internet is great for things like that.

I just took up motorcycle riding 1 year ago,  I was planning on writing a blog on offering tips and advice motorcycle safety, repair, and maintanence.

I died, then resurrected from laughter that was "incompatible with signs of life".  Srs.  Do you think a vlog would be better?  Maybe with me fishing and dramatic music and jump cuts to me and my children ... show casing how much better my life is now?

I mean... maybe I should interrupt liturgy with a trumpet that I conveniently disguise beneath the thousands of wraps around my arm of a prayer rope that's longer than everyone else's... because I'm really pious.

I never thought... that a sincere thread... would provide for such comedy gold. lol

Ah, the sanctimony of atheism ....

Oh, I remember those ones. Where some Atheists they are the "brights" that will save the earth from those coco religious people. Where Atheists are the defenders of freedom and science..etc Yeah, cause Stalin and Hitler weren't Atheists.
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Maybe if I don't shave before my dramatic, trumpeted introduction as an atheist before all the parish... I will be taken seriously.

Or perhaps write a self-published book titled, "Recipes for Pascha, that don't necessarily buy into your dietary tradition."

...then change jurisdictions.

Cyrillic was right on the money:

A flair for the dramatic, I see.
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lol.  Maybe write a blog entitled "journeys to atheism".   Some Random dude and his authoritative thoughts on his newly aquired atheism.  The Internet is great for things like that.

I just took up motorcycle riding 1 year ago,  I was planning on writing a blog on offering tips and advice motorcycle safety, repair, and maintanence.

I died, then resurrected from laughter that was "incompatible with signs of life".  Srs.  Do you think a vlog would be better?  Maybe with me fishing and dramatic music and jump cuts to me and my children ... show casing how much better my life is now?

I mean... maybe I should interrupt liturgy with a trumpet that I conveniently disguise beneath the thousands of wraps around my arm of a prayer rope that's longer than everyone else's... because I'm really pious.

I never thought... that a sincere thread... would provide for such comedy gold. lol

Ah, the sanctimony of atheism ....
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Maybe if I don't shave before my dramatic, trumpeted introduction as an atheist before all the parish... I will be taken seriously.

Or perhaps write a self-published book titled, "Recipes for Pascha, that don't necessarily buy into your dietary tradition."

...then change jurisdictions.
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Are you going to object to this too ?  As a person who come from the Middle East where thousands are dying because of denominational nonsense, I'm tried of seeing my Christian brothers and sisters are the same too.  In case you don't know; Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant Christians are dying in the Middle East. Not just Orthodox. Btw, the majority of Christians in Iraq are Catholics.

Every time I talk to some friends about what is happening in the Middle East, I'm reminded that Christians did the same few hundred years ago! And I expect some Christians want that to happen again.



Many Catholics do object to the Pope receiving a blessing from a "schismatic," or anyone, for that matter. In the case of His All-Holiness, though, the Catholic Church recognizes the validity of his Holy Orders, whereas this is not the case with Anglican prelates, so it's a different situation. The Patriarch of Constantinople possesses the episcopate, the Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury does not.

All baptized persons may bless, even non-Catholics. But not all blessings may be given by all people.
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lol.  Maybe write a blog entitled "journeys to atheism".   Some Random dude and his authoritative thoughts on his newly aquired atheism.  The Internet is great for things like that.

I just took up motorcycle riding 1 year ago,  I was planning on writing a blog on offering tips and advice motorcycle safety, repair, and maintanence.

I died, then resurrected from laughter that was "incompatible with signs of life".  Srs.  Do you think a vlog would be better?  Maybe with me fishing and dramatic music and jump cuts to me and my children ... show casing how much better my life is now?

I mean... maybe I should interrupt liturgy with a trumpet that I conveniently disguise beneath the thousands of wraps around my arm of a prayer rope that's longer than everyone else's... because I'm really pious.

I never thought... that a sincere thread... would provide for such comedy gold. lol
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Oriental Orthodox Discussion / Re: St. Cyril and the Apollinarians
« Last post by Severian on Yesterday at 11:33:31 PM »
Actually, I am going to request concrete evidence "mia physis" is of Apollinarian origin.
I'm waiting...

*crosses arms, taps foot against floor*
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Religious Topics / Re: Semantics of the Filioque
« Last post by scamandrius on Yesterday at 11:31:16 PM »
http://vox-nova.com/2007/07/30/the-semantics-of-the-filioque/

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In Latin, there are four ways in which to convey the conjunction “and” (unfortunately, English only has one): ac, atque, et and que. The first two of these are emphatic, pointing to a close and proportional relationship between two entities: Sonny atque Cher; pater atque mater (father and mother).

The third of these conjunctions, et, expresses association but is less emphatic than atque or ac. We use et for anything from association, such as in civitas et patria (state and country) and stellae et caelum (stars and sky), to dependent clauses: Et in Spiritum Sanctum… .

The fourth of these conjunctions, -que, is even less emphatic than et and simply indicates a connection or relation between two entities or clauses. When connecting nouns, -que is tagged onto the end of the second term, which immediately follows the first term: ex Patre Filioque (Filio + -que). This indicates a mere connection between the Father and the Son in the procession of the Holy Spirit. The Father and the Son do not have an equal or proportional function according to this clause.

If the Latin churches wanted to emphasis the Son’s role in the procession of the Holy Spirit, or even to point toward the Son playing a major role in this procession comparable to that of the Father, then the Latin Creed most certainly would have read: ex Patre et Filio. And if the Catholic Church wanted to point to the Son’s equal role in the procession of the Holy Spirit, the Latin Creed would have read: ex Patre atque Filio.

Thoughts?

Interesting.  In the Latin Creed following "Ex patre filioque procedit" comes "qui cum Patre et Filio simul adoratur et conglorificatur."  I would assume that since the Spirit is equally God and equally worshipped along with the Father and the Son so why did the Latin fathers not use atque to stress that relationship.  I think this is grasping at straws.  It's nice to see that the defenders of the Filioque are trying more creative, though just as futile, attempts to justify it and that they seem to be moving from ex=per.  I think the more likely explanation is that the enclitic, -que, is the most common word in the Latin language. 
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Ugh, can't believe I have to see the Vatican being reduced to this. It's kinda sad, akin at marveling at the beauty of Church of England cathedrals and realizing the state the CoE is currently in.

It's the same here  :'(
The article is pretty terrible. The Vatican has no jurisdiction over the matter. Also, it was just some guy in the Vatican press office who said it was cool with Catholics.

Its really not that big of a deal. The Catholic Church does not own Rome after all. Should the Catholic Church hate the man and protest everything that is named after him? Come on now, even if he opposed the CC he is a significant person in history. I would "back" it too (its ok I guess. Just dint ser the relevance). It doesn't mean his theology is being accepted.
"For this reason we forbid anyone from this time forward to dare, either by words or by deeds, to receive, defend, sustain, or favour the said Martin Luther. On the contrary, we want him to be apprehended and punished as a notorious heretic, as he deserves, to be brought personally before us, or to be securely guarded until those who have captured him inform us, whereupon we will order the appropriate manner of proceeding against the said Luther."
-Edict of Worms

Ok so he is a heretic... Like nobody knew that.

That's not the issue here. Protestants (SDA) want to name something after him in a city the CC has no control over. An official at th CC said Catholics are cool with it. Not that they accept Lutheran doctrine now. You will find it surprising that most Catholics don't hate the man.
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Religious Topics / Re: Creationism, Evolution, and Orthodoxy
« Last post by ativan on Yesterday at 11:21:01 PM »
@Ativan

Science isn't in search of truth and has nothing to say about it...

Scientists aren't concerned with truth, but only with useful predictions. That's it. Science isn't getting closer to some sort of "ultimate reality" here and really has no intention to do so.
Basically, you are saying it does not matter what theories we have to explain observable phenomena as long as these theories makes useful predictions. Let's take very concrete example. I want to ask a question how life came into existence and what caused diversity of life. Are these questions scientific ones? If they are not then Neo-Darwinism is not science since it tries to answer questions beyond science. So, we have to assume that these questions are scientific ones since we have (or at least scientists claim they do) theories about it. Today's theory which claims to have answers to these questions is Neo-Darwinian theory. This theory claims that all life form arouse from common ancestor by random mutations and natural selection. Within the context what you have just said it does not really matter if diversity of life is caused by random mutations and natural selection as long as Neo-Darwinism makes useful predictions, am i right?
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