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 on: Today at 07:04:58 AM 
Started by Maria - Last post by Arachne
I learned to read when I was 2, haven't stopped since, including 19 years of formal education, and I've never worn glasses. I've never even had an eye test. I am slightly short-sighted, but it was never bad enough to require correction, and now advancing age is taking care of it. angel

 on: Today at 07:00:07 AM 
Started by MamaX - Last post by biro
Hi, Mama X. Welcome.

 on: Today at 06:58:54 AM 
Started by Maria - Last post by biro
I have worn glasses since grade school. I went to college.


 on: Today at 06:58:01 AM 
Started by MamaX - Last post by mabsoota
welcome from me too.

i think i can understand your story because of my own experiences.
(sorry my post is not short either!)

i have been orthodox for nearly 6 years and before that i was protestant (i passed through nearly every type of church due to moving house a lot, so i saw some strange things!)
my husbands' family are/were (some have passed on by now) east european protestants who had a lot of bad things to say about orthodox Christians. (you can imagine how easy it was for be to become orthodox...)

so i have met and heard of lots of nominally orthodox Christians (they know when their favourite saint's feast day is but are not sure if Jesus is actually God) who don't differ in their lifestyle from atheists. some of them have even been abusive to others, like you describe.
so when i meet someone from that background who becomes a protestant Christian, i think it may be a positive step for them, as they are seeking God, and God reaches out to them and they learn more of Him.
certainly there are some protestant Christians who are closer to God than some orthodox Christians.

but there still remains the problem of incorrect theology outside of the orthodox church, and eventually those protestant Christians who did not know God while attending the orthodox church need to realise that they still have something lacking. i have met a few people like this who have left the orthodox church, and i pray for them to find the fullness of the love of God.
surely to go through all these difficult experiences like you did and to conclude that there is still something lacking must be very painful.
but it is the most honest way when you seek God to stop at nothing until you are sure you have found the truth.

the most important thing to remember in all this (in my opinion) is that there is only one God and He rewards those who diligently seek Him (hebrews 11:6).
maybe He allowed you to leave the church in order to escape from a very bad situation, but also in order to show you that other churches are also lacking in some respects.
we need to continue to pray for all churches to know more of the love and truth of God, so that bad theology and bad care of people in the church are eliminated.

in orthodox teaching, we know that we come closer to God through prayer and Bible study (especially at church) and also through the Holy Communion.
don't worry now about not being in communion with the orthodox church, as we know that fasting and giving to the poor also helps us to understand God's priorities, so that we will know how to do the will of God.
God is with you and will continue to guide you.
He will bring you and your family into the orthodox church in His time, so as you continue to seek Him honestly, you will find Him.
then at the right time, you will come into full communion with the orthodox church. i don't expect you will need to do anything except going to confession and a statement of faith, although it's possible you may have to have chrismation again, depending on the church (but i really doubt it).

so, stay close to God, help those in need and do your best to love your enemies, and God will make His way, truth and life clear to you.
if you would like to talk more, you can send a personal message.

 on: Today at 06:51:48 AM 
Started by ignatios - Last post by Alpo

According to this website it wasn't written by St. Augustine but Bishop Fulbert of Chartres (ca 951-ca 1029). Btw, I found the link from CAF.  Tongue

 on: Today at 06:51:37 AM 
Started by Australian - Last post by biro
Lord have mercy.

Welcome to the forum.

 on: Today at 06:35:24 AM 
Started by Australian - Last post by Punch
What exactly has he asked you to do (not do)?

Your Spiritual Father is just a man.  While we are told to follow their instructions and be obedient, don't forget he is not infallible, and might in fact be mistaken.

However, only you know that.

You need to decide why you disagree with him so strongly. Is he wrong, or are you merely stubborn?


Exactly!  First off, you (the OP) really have not given enough information to even answer your question.  Is what he is asking you to do sinful?  Is he telling you to live as brother and sister (if so, run as far away from him as you can)?  What exactly is the disagreement that would tear you away from your future wife?  Second, this is why I reject the whole "spiritual father" cult that to me denies the working of the Holy Spirit in each one of us that are Baptized Christians.  As Liza writes, he is just a man and as such he is not perfect.

 on: Today at 05:59:08 AM 
Started by Maria - Last post by sakura95
Correct. This is to be the information section, but I cannot force anyone to read anything,

And I do not want to do so either.

So, if you do not want to read the article then go ahead and debunk education, or do your own thing.

I am doing eye exercises and eating a lot of colorful veggies and fruit to regain my eyesight.

And I did not get bad vision from going to school, but from the mumps.

The day I went back to school after having had the mumps (on both sides), my teacher sprang a vision test on us. The nurse lied and said that I could not see the broad side of a barn.

The doctor said that my vision was not that bad, and to let my eyes heal from the virus, but the teacher did not want to change my seat in the classroom as it would mess up her lesson plans. So, it was wear glasses or fail.

I wore glasses, but the prescription was so high 20/15 that my eyes were constantly stressed and caused pain, so every six months, I would fail the vision test again, and have to get a higher prescription. It was a racket, and my mom's budget suffered. Some months we could not get adequate food due to my stupid glasses.

The same thing happened to me, the teacher told me to get glasses when I told her I couldn't see because of the glare from the sunlight since I sat at the corner of the class. Initially, I ignored her but she got so persistent that I eventually have to give in and here I'm wearing glasses Sad

 on: Today at 05:35:38 AM 
Started by scamandrius - Last post by mabsoota
eritrean services are in a mixture of ge'ez and tigrinya, the current eritrean language.
in english speaking areas, they use some english as well.
i found them to be not too different from coptic liturgy, except they are sometimes even longer services!

 on: Today at 05:28:17 AM 
Started by Maria - Last post by LBK
Ever wonder why some folks are so myopic and narrow-minded?

Equating short-sightedness with narrow-mindedness is wrong and an unfair smear on those whose sight is imperfect. Angry

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