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Western standards

What are Western standards?
Wide acceptation of LGBT, Mass (or any other service) being more a concert than a Mass, no fasting on Fridays and general relaxation of the requirements. Well, it's difficult to put it in words, but the difference is easily felt.

The BBC weighs in with an article entitled "Vatican 'removes criticism' of Polish politicians' views of Muslims"

According to the article, "A Polish bishops' spokesman had blamed "inappropriate" political discourse for creating an "artificial fear of Muslims" in the country, according to a report in La Stampa newspaper.
  "But the remarks later appeared to have been removed from the Vatican website."

Toward the end of the article: "Much of Poland's conservative Catholic establishment is uncomfortable with Pope Francis's push for a more flexible and compassionate church."

For more, see: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36902882
That's true. And not only so conservative.
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Christian News / Re: Russian nuns enter Kiev, despite threats
« Last post by RaphaCam on Today at 01:37:26 PM »
Because ethnic Ukrainians under the MP probably wouldn't need to have been distinguished as "Russian Orthodox" before all these schisms arose.
No matter what it is called, it still the canonical Church of Ukraine nothing justifies Schism (except heresy), is it a problem many Ukrainians feel they don't their own Church? Yes absolutely, it's a tragedy they don't have a Ukrainan Church, does it justify Schism? No
Yes.
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Non-Religious Topics / Re: Are we suppose to hate Homosexuals?
« Last post by Porter ODoran on Today at 01:30:15 PM »
Well, I think the comunist past has something to do with this violence, as far as I know, the Soviet Union had some laws that made homossexuality illegal and was persecuted by the state, even after Stalin.

In terms of morality and values Soviet Russia was not that different from Tsarist Russia (maybe not counting a short period after the revolution, after which they returned to conservative values).

Yes and no. Most Americans don't realize, for example, that quite a few things such as the secret police and gulags were merely inherited by the Bolsheviks -- they were created by the Czars. On the other hand, saying the Communist Revolution made no moral or values changes in Russia is really ridiculous.
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Christian News / Re: Russian nuns enter Kiev, despite threats
« Last post by seekeroftruth777 on Today at 01:29:15 PM »
Because ethnic Ukrainians under the MP probably wouldn't need to have been distinguished as "Russian Orthodox" before all these schisms arose.

No matter what it is called, it still the canonical Church of Ukraine nothing justifies Schism (except heresy), is it a problem many Ukrainians feel they don't their own Church? Yes absolutely, it's a tragedy they don't have a Ukrainan Church, does it justify Schism? No
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Non-Religious Topics / Re: Are we suppose to hate Homosexuals?
« Last post by Porter ODoran on Today at 01:27:12 PM »
Well, I think the comunist past has something to do with this violence, as far as I know, the Soviet Union had some laws that made homossexuality illegal and was persecuted by the state, even after Stalin.

I don't think this is accurate. There have been some new laws limiting gay voices, yes. The American newsmedia and activist groups greatly deplore them, yes. But calling them "violent persecution" would require some real evidence on your part.
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"Hey Father, did you know you are doing that -wrong-? I read it in the Rudder. "
Now I think I know how to get slapped by a priest without being Arius.
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Liturgy / Re: What is the minimum age in your parish to be an altar server?
« Last post by gzt on Today at 01:25:48 PM »
I've seen 4 year olds do it, but usually maybe 5 or 6. The key questions are 1. do they want to do it 2. can they be quiet and follow directions 3. can they be reverent. Some of this can be learned "on the job" if they have the right can-do attitude. But what you don't want to have to do is give them a bad experience because they weren't ready yet.

It is also very important what kind of person is in charge of the altar servers, whether it's the priest or they have a sacristan or a senior altar server or whatever. Sometimes the person in charge has an approach that doesn't work well for people under the age of 6 or 8 or whatever.
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Christian News / Re: Russian nuns enter Kiev, despite threats
« Last post by RaphaCam on Today at 01:24:26 PM »
Because ethnic Ukrainians under the MP probably wouldn't need to have been distinguished as "Russian Orthodox" before all these schisms arose.
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"Hey Father, did you know you are doing that -wrong-? I read it in the Rudder. "


it would be online two minutes...;)



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if OCnetters used this....the Church would close it down in a day....'continuous annoying contact'
"Hey, Father, how do you feel about Trinity icons and Pope Dioscorus of Alexandria?"
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