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Jews can secure eternal salvation without converting to Christianity, senior Catholic theologians say in a report published Thursday, in the latest refinement of their stance on a vexed theological issue.

Where's the link to the actual document?
Courtesy of Xavier:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20151210_ebraismo-nostra-aetate_en.html
This didn't actually just come out on Thursday, 22 September 2016 it seems.
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Convert Issues / Re: Evangelical Orthodox (the EOC) Nostalgia Music
« Last post by Elisha on Yesterday at 06:48:52 PM »
So it took just eight messages to some innocent nostalgy to evolve into an argument. This is OC.net.

I don't think there's much argument in this thread...not even close to the extent of most others.
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I think folks should keep an open mind about church music. Also, I think that small departures from traditional styles/melodies should be considered in context. In the case of St Athanasius, here is a huge contextual fact:

Matins:Monday, Wednesday, Friday @ 6:45 AM
Vespers:Tuesday & Thursday @ 5:30 PM
Great Vespers:Saturday @ 6:00 PM
Orthros:Sunday @ 9:00 AM
Divine Liturgy:Sunday @ 10:00 AM
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Religious Topics / Re: Using Marijuana (weed)?
« Last post by mcarmichael on Yesterday at 06:13:02 PM »
Can you back this up?

I would refer you to "Cannabis and the Brain: A User's Guide", at http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/cannabis-and-the-brain-a-user-s-guide, but I feel like it's a red herring, because alcohol kills brain cells for sure, and that's not why it's wrong to drink too much afaik.
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Christian News / Re: Historicial visit of patriarch Bartholomew to Croatia
« Last post by Dominika on Yesterday at 06:10:40 PM »
Everything seems to be historical now.
Serbian media report it's the first visit of the ecumenical patriarch to Croatia, so I think it deserves this adjective.

I agree, and I hope this begins a healing process between the Serbs and Croatians, who have so much in common.

Yes, I hope so. And we are actually one nation, divided by religion; well, we were always two separate groups, but rather of the same ethnos, it's a very specific situation.
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Christian News / Re: Historicial visit of patriarch Bartholomew to Croatia
« Last post by wgw on Yesterday at 05:56:23 PM »
Everything seems to be historical now.
Serbian media report it's the first visit of the ecumenical patriarch to Croatia, so I think it deserves this adjective.

I agree, and I hope this begins a healing process between the Serbs and Croatians, who have so much in common.
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Liturgy / Re: translations of the Creed
« Last post by MalpanaGiwargis on Yesterday at 05:51:11 PM »
Why do you add the phrase "God of God"? The Greek text reads "Φῶς ἐκ φωτός, Θεόν ἀληθινόν ἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ" = "Light of Light, true God of true God"

The liturgical version of the Latin has it; it was present in the Creed of 325, but not present in that of 381. Since the Gelasian Sacramentary omits it, I don't know how it found its way back into the Latin.
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Jews can secure eternal salvation without converting to Christianity, senior Catholic theologians say in a report published Thursday, in the latest refinement of their stance on a vexed theological issue.

Where's the link to the actual document?
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Liturgy / Re: Instruments and Incense
« Last post by wgw on Yesterday at 05:20:13 PM »
Bells are musical instruments, however, as are our liturgical fans, and we do use them liturgically, amd the Ethiopians, Copts and Armenians use a broad range of musical instrumentation.   

The bells and liturgical fans, as used in the Syriac tradition, are hardly what people would think of when hearing the term "musical instruments", even if they are by some technicality.

I have to confess I find this baffling, and also a difficult stance to take given that the liturgical fans are used, like most percussion instruments, at certain climactic points in the liturgy (of course, this derives from the ancient use of peacock or ostrich feathers and the need to keep flies out of the holy oblatiom).

But, that being said, what do you think of when you hear the term "musical instruments?"
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Other Topics / Re: Favorite Star Trek Series
« Last post by Charles1967 on Yesterday at 05:02:52 PM »
In the words of Shatner.on that famous saturday night live segment from the 70s....cmon people Get a Life..
Its just a T.V. show.

...but being a reformed trekkie. I loved the old cheezy TOS
Great writers and storylines. Loved the going back in time episodes. Espesially the gangster of the 20s episode
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