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and you made him a thread with that man in it.......

Seriously.  The OP is a provocation and I intend to destroy my enemies. 
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodox Fundamentalism
« Last post by NicholasMyra on Today at 01:42:32 PM »
True. The modern mind, in all of its fundamentals, leaves no room for understanding without conceptual clarity. But it is precisely this sort of deep encounter that we must start from.
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Other Topics / Re: What are your pet peeves and OCD's?
« Last post by Justin Kissel on Today at 01:42:31 PM »
Pet Peeve #1: when people/reporters ask someone really old what they did to live to be really old. Then it's usually some stupid answer like "Well I drank two bottles of bear between 12 and 6 every day for 80 years" or "I ate a McDonalds Big Mac every day." Yeah, sorry Georgie, but that won't make you live a long time. Even if the answer sounds sensible, it's still a stupid question.
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodox Fundamentalism
« Last post by Fabio Leite on Today at 01:38:47 PM »
I would agree with Fabio's statement: To me, all forms of fundamentalism, hypertraditionalist or modernist, have the same root cause: they cannot withstand the natural tension of life and what a "solid ground".

I would only add that the problem develops in two stages: the first, I call the 'End of Repentance,' which means that one seeks the 'right way' to do something.

Usually, this leads to a wrong conclusion, as it did with the Pharisees.  They had lots of 'right ways,' and it led them away from God.

The second stage is the 'Monty Python Effect': take an absurd idea, and draw it out to its logical conclusions.  So, once you have adopted a false or silly premise, but follow it with perfect logic, it is very hard to refute until you reach its groundwork.  This is why so many fundamentalists are hard to refute... because no one questions the premise of finding the 'truth.'

We are told to follow Christ, and that He is, literally, the Truth.  When we know Him, we know the Truth.

Too many of us have not yet encountered the Truth, but we desire to speak of it.  Yet, those who have struggle to find words.  It is difficult to speak about the unspeakable.

So, those who think do the talking, yet their talking is about their thinking about something they have not encountered.  Those who have encountered most often are silent... or just plain disappointing to those who think a lot.

Fundamentalism allows thinkers to speak freely, provided they go through the proper steps of logic.  So, we have all kinds of fundamentalists, but we have little repentance.


Spot on.
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Religious Topics / Re: Public Apology & I might take a break.
« Last post by DeniseDenise on Today at 01:31:31 PM »
 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.



If you don't ask...they don't forgive you
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodox Fundamentalism
« Last post by FatherGiryus on Today at 01:29:36 PM »
I would agree with Fabio's statement: To me, all forms of fundamentalism, hypertraditionalist or modernist, have the same root cause: they cannot withstand the natural tension of life and what a "solid ground".

I would only add that the problem develops in two stages: the first, I call the 'End of Repentance,' which means that one seeks the 'right way' to do something.

Usually, this leads to a wrong conclusion, as it did with the Pharisees.  They had lots of 'right ways,' and it led them away from God.

The second stage is the 'Monty Python Effect': take an absurd idea, and draw it out to its logical conclusions.  So, once you have adopted a false or silly premise, but follow it with perfect logic, it is very hard to refute until you reach its groundwork.  This is why so many fundamentalists are hard to refute... because no one questions the premise of finding the 'truth.'

We are told to follow Christ, and that He is, literally, the Truth.  When we know Him, we know the Truth.

Too many of us have not yet encountered the Truth, but we desire to speak of it.  Yet, those who have struggle to find words.  It is difficult to speak about the unspeakable.

So, those who think do the talking, yet their talking is about their thinking about something they have not encountered.  Those who have encountered most often are silent... or just plain disappointing to those who think a lot.

Fundamentalism allows thinkers to speak freely, provided they go through the proper steps of logic.  So, we have all kinds of fundamentalists, but we have little repentance.
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Orthodox-Protestant Discussion / Re: I like this
« Last post by TheTrisagion on Today at 01:29:05 PM »
...Protestants say that the Nicene Creed will have to be judged by Scripture

Indeed we do. But we say the same about such documents as the Baptist Confession of Faith, John Wesley's standard sermons, or any other attempted distillation of Christian truth.
It was judged by Scripture when the Church accepted it. Why must every person become their own judge of the Creed?
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Religious Topics / Re: Public Apology & I might take a break.
« Last post by TheTrisagion on Today at 01:27:24 PM »
That's a nice sentiment. But you want my advice, don't apologize to anyone on here. More goes on behind the curtain than you may know. Certain users form cliches with the sole intention of instigating trouble and agitating other members until they are forced to respond with force, in which case, they shrivel back like sanctimonious little hypocrites. You only empower them by apologizing.
I think it is good to apologize to anyone you wrong, not because that person deserves it but because failing to do so harms ones self. I'm sure there are tons of people that I offend without thinking about it, that I should at least apologize to those who I do know I offend.  :)
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Faith Issues / Re: Orthodox Fundamentalism
« Last post by TheTrisagion on Today at 01:24:55 PM »
Perhaps I am just not "in the know", but I really don't know what he is referring to because he doesn't really seem to define his terms. Using this article, I have no idea if I fall on the "fundamentalist" side or the "anti-fundamentalist" side.
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Religious Topics / Re: Public Apology & I might take a break.
« Last post by minasoliman on Today at 01:21:27 PM »
That's a nice sentiment. But you want my advice, don't apologize to anyone on here. More goes on behind the curtain than you may know. Certain users form cliches with the sole intention of instigating trouble and agitating other members until they are forced to respond with force, in which case, they shrivel back like sanctimonious little hypocrites. You only empower them by apologizing.

I like your advice.  It's why I don't apologize to you or your "cliches".
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