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Religious Topics / Re: 1 Timothy 4:14
« Last post by mikeforjesus on Today at 04:48:45 AM »
Thanks Carl
How is the ordination itself prophecy applied to the candidate ?
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Other Topics / Re: Random Postings
« Last post by hecma925 on Today at 04:40:05 AM »
^It's never that exciting.


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Other Topics / Re: Picture of the Day
« Last post by Justin Kissel on Today at 04:10:34 AM »
~~• Live ♥ Laugh ♥ Love •~~

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HEY!!! You too Sev

Yeah why do I always bounce back here every year idk
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Other Topics / Re: Random Postings
« Last post by Justin Kissel on Today at 04:04:50 AM »
Meanwhile on oc.net...

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Slavic Languages / Troparion/Kontakion translations
« Last post by hecma925 on Today at 04:03:37 AM »
I was happening on some saints' lives for January 11 and compared the troparia/kontakia for that particular day.  On http://oca.org/saints/troparia/2015/01/11 , there are only those for St. Theodosius the Great.  I took a look at http://days.pravoslavie.ru/Days/20150111.html  and saw another saint's troparion/kontakion and a troparion to the Elets Mother of God.  Google Translate sucks when it comes to stuff like this, so if someone could give a good translation it'd be much appreciated.

Troparion:
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Тропарь преподобного Михаила Клопского, Новгородского
глас 8
Иже на земли Христа ради волею в буйство преложився, / мира сего красоты отнюд возненавидел еси / и, плотская играния увядив постом и жаждею и на земли леганием, / от зноя же и студени, от дождя и снега / и от прочия воздушныя тягости никогда же уклонился еси, / душу же очистил еси добродетельми, яко злато в горниле, / отче преподобне Богоносне Михаиле, / и ныне на Небесех предстоиши престолу Пресвятыя Троицы. / Но яко имея дерзновение многое, / моли Христа Бога спастися душам нашим.

Kontakion:
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Кондак преподобного Михаила Клопского, Новгородского
глас 8
Духа Святаго силою уподобился еси Богоглаголивым древним пророком,/ сказав безвестная и тайная и еже годе судьбам Божиим в сбытие, / и ина многа чудеса о Христе сотворив,/ и люди удивив, торжествовати устроил еси вопиющия: / слава Богу, прославляющему святыя Своя.

Mother of God Troparion:
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Тропарь Божией Матери в честь иконы Ея Елецкой
глас 4
Днесь светло красуется древний град Елец,/ поминающе славное чудо Пресвятыя Богородицы:/ егда бо на стогнах Первопрестольныя Москвы/ икону Ея чудную людие московстии сретаху,/ тогда Сама, Владычице, на горе Аргамачстей во граде Ельце,/ на сретение нечестивому Тамерлану изшедше,/ грозное его нашествие вспять обрати./ Сего дивнаго явления изображение на новописанней иконе зряще/ и Заступницу нашу за вся благодеяния Ея благодаряще,/ умильно Ей взываем:/ и в предняя не остави нас, о Мати Милосердая.

Icon Elets Mother of God


Thanks!
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Nice to see you posting again, Poppy.
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nafs? Self? Needs? idk

How much are we guided by that in what religion we choose?
It influences every decision we make surely?
So then how can we find out anything objectively?

Like say for instance 'you' fall in love with a Syrian girl who happens to be Muslim and you got it bad, like you can't eat, sleep, all you can do is think about her (ok I'm using a dumb example but) if you have no religion, that might promp you to join it?

So many subtle and not so subtle things influence us all, how can we even avoid that?

Joinin any religion has nothing to do with 'God' sometimes, it's just like joining a club. But I hate even those people who say they follow God without defining what version of God it is they follow.....ykno?

It's like they made this 'God' up in their head and they like him and so they become their own judge of their behaviour and deeds.

That makes me want to vom when I chat with someone like that, total irritation.

Any helpful thoughts?

Don't really have even a clue who you mean by 'someone like that'.

My only helpful thought is to stop hating people and instead open your heart/ears so you can listen to them and discover what motivates their beliefs and actions you disagree with.

Ok so you missed my whole entire question and focused on the last line.

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nafs? Self? Needs? idk

How much are we guided by that in what religion we choose?
It influences every decision we make surely?
So then how can we find out anything objectively?

Like say for instance 'you' fall in love with a Syrian girl who happens to be Muslim and you got it bad, like you can't eat, sleep, all you can do is think about her (ok I'm using a dumb example but) if you have no religion, that might promp you to join it?

So many subtle and not so subtle things influence us all, how can we even avoid that?

Joinin any religion has nothing to do with 'God' sometimes, it's just like joining a club. But I hate even those people who say they follow God without defining what version of God it is they follow.....ykno?

It's like they made this 'God' up in their head and they like him and so they become their own judge of their behaviour and deeds.

That makes me want to vom when I chat with someone like that, total irritation.

Any helpful thoughts?

Don't really have even a clue who you mean by 'someone like that'.

My only helpful thought is to stop hating people and instead open your heart/ears so you can listen to them and discover what motivates their beliefs and actions you disagree with.
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Religious Topics / Re: Creationism, Evolution, and Orthodoxy
« Last post by William T on Today at 03:37:18 AM »
FYI:  I'm making the distinction between natural science (biology, physics, chemistry) and human science (psychology, economics, sociology).  That's all I was doing, that's a common distinction in universities.
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