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They hate the Holy Father just like they hated our Lord Jesus Christ because he hang around people the society didn't like. Nothing new to see.

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I wonder if the RC's in Poland will either form an SSPX-esqe "Church of Poland" or if some RC's will start to sway towards Orthodoxy over the course of my lifetime. I wouldn't be too surprised at the latter because it only seems imminent that Poland will start aligning with more conservative European nations like Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus in political matters.

Poles have long memories, surely they remember what the Russians did to them in the past, though? Not good things.
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Religious Topics / Re: Schlock Icons
« Last post by Minnesotan on Today at 05:23:32 PM »
^^ Photoshop of poor quality

It's from Illuminidol, a shop that offers literally dozens of them. Their tagline is "Idolatry for the 21st century".
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LOL again!
I'm very up to date with visit of pope Francis to Poland, because of my mother (who watches all the services, words etc. of the pope, if she's not at work) and because of my curiosity (as I was helping in the diocesan World Youth Day, because there wasn't enough number of people speaking Spanish).


There are crowds, big crowds in every place, which the pope visits, and you can easily hear shouts "niech żyje papież" (long live pope), "zostań z nami" (stay with us) etc. Also there are a lot of warm words in Polish media toward pope Francis, and many people are pleasantly surprised by his teachings and gestures - it's said by journalists and interviewed people, I can notice it among my RC friends and that's what my mother says (that's true, that before this visit many people were treating pope Francis with a kind of distance).

Surely, among some (and not all) pro-tridentine Polish Roman Catholics there are some negative opinions, but it's mainly because of some liturgical stuff around World Youth Day, not the services presided by pope Francis (as there are many traditional chants in Latin and Polish, and Latin is used as the main liturgical language).

That's a movie presenting one of 3 talks on Franciszkańska 3 street (that's a tradition started by John Paul II to talk in the evening via window with people coming to this street, where the residence of Cracow metropolitan is located)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKIreqczZAQ

In this crowd there was also Polish prime minister, because she was coming on this street also when John Paul II was visiting Poland.

Edit: John Paul II is precisely called here "nasz papież" (our pope), meaning the same nationality.
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Non-Religious Topics / Re: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
« Last post by mcarmichael on Today at 05:10:04 PM »
I like this song as much as anybody, but I'm not sure what this has to do with Convert Issues. Did you mean to post it in another subforum?

Perhaps. Meant it as a salute to my fellow inquirers here, forgot to say that.
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Other Topics / Re: W.A.G.-word association game
« Last post by William T on Today at 05:08:46 PM »
babylon
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I wonder if the RC's in Poland will either form an SSPX-esqe "Church of Poland" or if some RC's will start to sway towards Orthodoxy over the course of my lifetime. I wouldn't be too surprised at the latter because it only seems imminent that Poland will start aligning with more conservative European nations like Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus in political matters.
The first option is extremely unlikely, I don't think the RCC has more than one case of a sizable area entering in schism altogether resisting from Vatican II reforms. At least the traditionalist bishops in northern Rio who used to be under SSPX or something claimed to be an isolate case around the world. A growth of traditionalist orders inside the Polish Roman Catholic Church sounds very likely, however.

Let God grant the second option, though.
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I wonder if the RC's in Poland will either form an SSPX-esqe "Church of Poland" or if some RC's will start to sway towards Orthodoxy over the course of my lifetime. I wouldn't be too surprised at the latter because it only seems imminent that Poland will start aligning with more conservative European nations like Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus in political matters.
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Faith Issues / Re: are we really supposed to avoid non-Christians?
« Last post by Indocern on Today at 04:51:25 PM »
Here is a quote from St. Paul's second epistle to the Corinthians in Chapter 6:

"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God..."

Does that mean that we should actually have no friends who are not Orthodox, or at least who are not Christians?

1Cor. 16:22: If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
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Religious Topics / Re: Schlock Icons
« Last post by RaphaCam on Today at 04:50:04 PM »
Same dude, Sacred Mirrors, Christ and Sophia in "The Chapel of Sacred Mirrors which is ""Building an enduring sanctuary of visionary art to inspire every pilgrim's creative path and embody the values of love and evolutionary wisdom".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chapel_of_Sacred_Mirrors

One look at his paintings, and the biography pretty much writes itself, it's amazing.

This self promoting and rather dubiously sourced article does make me wonder though what Nirvana and Beastie Boys had to do with any this?
So I was right about Gnostics on acid, eh?
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