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Other Topics / Re: Last thing you drank
« Last post by Eruvande on Today at 03:02:28 PM »
Bog standard Aldi tea with a drop of milk. Does a job.
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BCsenior, earlier eddybear mentioned Jesus baptism. What you are saying doesn't line up with Matthew 3:16.
How do you explain this?

Matthew 3:16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold,
the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 
17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”


What have I said that doesn't agree with this?

BTW, whenever the Spirit came UPON someone in Acts,
they were receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
which is different than receiving Him INSIDE at salvation.
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Other Topics / Re: Life is absurd
« Last post by RaphaCam on Today at 03:00:01 PM »
I must say I won't marry her if she have been talked to some other male in her all life.
You may change your mind once you meet her.

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Here is some reasons I don't want to have children:

1. My wife will be very ugly with big belly.
2. She will love somebody else than only me as it must be.
3. She will take care of somebody else than only me as it must be.
4. She will not spend 100% of her time for me. /I don't want my wife to leave me for even 5 minutes!/
5. I don't want to have somebody from my blood I want to be only me. Or blood of my wife. Our blood must be together and only we must be alive from our blood.
6. She will talk to somebody else than only me as it must be!
You may change your mind once you meet your baby.
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Other Topics / Re: OCnet Quotable Quotes
« Last post by minasoliman on Today at 02:56:39 PM »
Dude!
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There are "SWMs" in the Orthodox Church like you wouldn't believe.

In a Greek Orthodox monastery in Meteoria (central Greece),
I picked up a super book about the annual manifestation of
God's Holy Fire in Greece, which as been going on for 1000 years!
Jerusalem?

Yes, I messed up!
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There are "SWMs" in the Orthodox Church like you wouldn't believe.

In a Greek Orthodox monastery in Meteoria (central Greece),
I picked up a super book about the annual manifestation of
God's Holy Fire in Greece, which as been going on for 1000 years!
Jerusalem?
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There are "SWMs" in the Orthodox Church like you wouldn't believe.

In a Greek Orthodox monastery in Meteoria (central Greece),
I picked up a super book about the annual manifestation of
God's Holy Fire in Greece, which as been going on for 1000 years!
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But one last question:  what's W.E.Vine?

Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words -- maybe as famous as Strong's Concordance.


Okay, we Orthodox Christians do the same thing.  We also use ancient writings to get a good sense of what a passage might mean.  That doesn't mean we replace that for inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but we believe that what we read also come from those who were also inspired by the Spirit.

I think you'll get a better appreciation of this in reading writings from such folks like John Chrysostom or Gregory Nazienzen or Cyril of Alexandria.  They left many commentaries, definitions, concordances that assist us when we get at an impasse in our reading and prayers.

In all the 2000 years of Christianity, you are the first person I have read that writes about the Spirit as father of Jesus.  That's why it doesn't sound like the tradition of Christ and his apostles, but a "new tradition" that Christ never taught.  It does however sound like other groups that the ancient Christian Church have condemned, like Gnosticism.  Hence my characterization.  This is just our observation here.
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Like the idea that God the Son hasn't existed eternally before the incarnation?

I've requested several times for verses which substantiate this.
They may be there, but I don't recall seeing them.

The refs must be referring to the Son of God saying or doing something (present tense),
but NOT in the future (new covenant).

Fair enough, or will this request also go in the IGNORE trash bin?
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So what does it mean that the Holy Spirit "served as Jesus' father"?

Jesus was called “the Son of God” because He was “fathered” by God, the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is God, right?
He was responsible for the Fetus being in Mary’s blessed womb?

Not to worry, Protestants don't get it either!
So how did God the Father come to be called as such?
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