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Faith Issues / Re: The Orthodox Church and Sin
« Last post by LBK on Today at 01:08:45 AM »
Is  C.S. Lewis Orthodox ?

No.
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For anyone interested, here is the book:
http://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Virginity-According-John-Chrysostom/dp/1887904301/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440909135&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=father+josiah+trenham

The other night, I watched a talk from Fr. Trenham on Youtube about marriage and virginity, and I was quite impressed.  I went to Amazon to check out his book, only to find very divergent opinions on it.  Has anyone else here read it, and if so, is it worth getting?
I haven't, but know someone who might have (a parishioner of Fr's).

I have to say, he speaks much better than he writes, IMHO.
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Religious Topics / Re: Scripture objection to homosexual acts.
« Last post by ialmisry on Today at 01:02:28 AM »

I'm sure several of the members here read/heard about the arguments used to show that the Holy Scriptures do not condemn homosexual acts. Including but not limited to; The verses that are used in Leviticus and Deuteronomy are not actually about two gay men having sex, but a married man having sex with another man, Romans first is not about sex in a private space, but about sex between men/women that used as an act of worship to pagan gods.

What is the conservative Christian response to these arguments ?
These assERtions are excrement.

This is not an answer.

Au contraire, it stands as the correct answer.

That it does not come as the answer you wanted to hear does not change that.

And trying to use inappropriate words to describe the other side argument is not doing anything good, except making it more difficult for me to be open to what is being said.
Quite appropriate words. Not as appropriate as I could have, but appropriate enough.

No conservative Christian-or any Christian for that matter-should be "open" to what is being said.

Take your ridiculous assUmption in Leviticus: judging by your eisogesis, a man can sleep with his neighbor's wife, his father's wife, his son's wife, the mother of the women he is sleeping with, or any farm animal-just as long as he himself is not married.
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For anyone interested, here is the book:
http://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Virginity-According-John-Chrysostom/dp/1887904301/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440909135&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=father+josiah+trenham

The other night, I watched a talk from Fr. Trenham on Youtube about marriage and virginity, and I was quite impressed.  I went to Amazon to check out his book, only to find very divergent opinions on it.  Has anyone else here read it, and if so, is it worth getting?
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Faith Issues / Re: The Orthodox Church and Sin
« Last post by Vanhyo on Today at 12:58:51 AM »
Is  C.S. Lewis Orthodox ?
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Faith Issues / Is there someplace I could live as a monk for a year ?
« Last post by spiltteeth on Today at 12:55:41 AM »
I'd love to live as a monk for a year to strengthen my faith apart from worldly distraction; thing is, I doubt I have what it takes to commit myself to actual monkhood.

Are there opportunities or places where I could go to live as a monk for awhile without committing myself to monkdom ?
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Reviews / Re: Bands you just absolutely hate
« Last post by Rhinosaur on Today at 12:55:12 AM »
I dislike all modern bands. Their music is diabolic and they are proud to show that.


Is that a young Princess Leia at the bottom?
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Other Topics / Re: W.A.G.-word association game
« Last post by Gamliel on Today at 12:50:26 AM »
me
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Faith Issues / Re: The Office of Priesthood
« Last post by ialmisry on Today at 12:48:42 AM »
I was under the impression bishop was episkopos, and priest was presbyter.

Episkopos is bishop, but the early Church viewed episkopos and presbyter as synonymous. Orthodox theologian, Father Laurent A. Cleenewerck observes: “I am well aware that the distinction between presbyteros and episkopos [bishop] is a delicate one. The consensus among scholars is that it cannot clearly be found in the New Testament or in such early works as 1 Clement. . .” (Laurent A. Cleenewerck, His Broken Body, [Euclid University Press, 2007], p. 72 brackets mine).

There is a Greek word for "priest" in the New Testament and it is not presbyter. Presbyteros simply means “older” (William D. Mounce, Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, [Zondervan, 2006], p. 208).
Nor quite. The word already had a clerical connotation before the NT. See the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament. It is also precluded by the Epistle to Timothy, in which St. Paul tells St. Timothy not to allow anyone to make an issue out of his young age:"Let no one despise you for your youth...Do not neglect the gift you have, which was given you by prophecy when the presbytery laid their hands on you."

The order of priest came out of the chorbishops, who first served as presbyters alongside the Apostles and then took their place as bishops, the (parish) priesthood taking the role thus vacated.

Priests are found in the epistles of St. Clement's (and the Apostles') contemporary St  Ignatius, so it's not an innovation.

Btw, "presbyter" is still the Greek word for priest, hence his wife is called "prebytera."
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Other Topics / Re: What are your pet peeves and OCD's?
« Last post by nothing on Today at 12:46:09 AM »
This:

"In my opinion"

Needs to stop.
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