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 on: Today at 08:52:42 AM 
Started by hecma925 - Last post by hecma925
Too many serious thread going on about the horrible things going on.  I would like to visit these countries some day.  So, for those that have visited/lived in Ukraine and Russia: what are some nice places to visit?  Natural wonders to see?  Historical sites of great importance?

In Ukraine, I would like to visit the Primeval Beech Forests in Carpathia, considered a World Heritage Site.  In Russia, I would like to see the Sayan Mountains.

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 on: Today at 08:52:21 AM 
Started by Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) - Last post by vamrat
Putin and the FSB are the final test for the "Russian revival".

Should the Russian people, and mainly the Russian church, at last oust these blasphemers who say the name of God in vain, then Russia will have at last outgrown the worst parts of its history.

If they buy into it again, the world, the Church, and themselves, will pay a sad price.

When you take it upon yourself to call a confessed Orthodox Christian a blasphemer, you have clearly shown that you are far worse and less of a Christian than the one you judge.

It's either naïve or outright stupidity to judge people on their words instead of their acts. Putin is a murderer who rose to power based on assassinations after heading the institution that most killed Orthodox Christians in the world. His relation to Orthodoxy is just because there are enough anti-Americans in it that are willing to join him out of common hatred. Putin/Dugin's new alliance of hate is nothing short of demonic.

Once again, research Donatism.  Communism was wrong and evil, but denying repentance is outright heresy. 

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 on: Today at 08:51:55 AM 
Started by Balthasar - Last post by Αριστοκλής
Umm, your questions are answered in the part Mor quoted. I read the document, and it is not preaching the truth in love, it is a rambling monologue of every imaginable fault, flaw or error in Catholicism, written in the same way that a junior high English report might be. "A website says you did x, when will you repent? We read in the newspaper that you said y, you dirty apostate! Also when will you tell us about what is really going on with your German banker, hmm?"

Westboro Orthodox perhaps ??  I'd expect such from a John Hagee .

Seriously, how are Bishops vetted in Greece? Anyone know? What type of region, population etc.do these two come from.

Actually, they sound like more than a few from Mt. Athos. I imagine it will be a while before any pope visits the Holy Mountain.  Cheesy

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 on: Today at 08:49:11 AM 
Started by Asteriktos - Last post by DeniseDenise
This'll probably rusty the jimmies of a few anti-tattoo proponents on here.

I'm already considering my second tattoo. I want to get a California flag on my left shoulder to impress the women in North Carolina with Smiley

I really want to see the quality of the women that would be impressed by that tattoo.  It would be a scream.

Doesn't matter as long as she's physically attractive. I'm no catch either  Wink

California has prestige. There's bound to be more than a few rural Southern women who'd be impressed by this strange, cultured man from a land of exotic wonder.

That makes sense coming from a Californian.  Prestige in relation to what?

It doesn't.

That's a mental picture of hype.

Anyhow, I remembered where I saw Bear Flag (CA) tattoos recently!
First was on a guy who pumped my gas in Oregon. Just about the worse place to have your CA-ness showing on the west coast.

Second was up here in WA, one of the guys at the drive through window at Taco Time has one too!


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 on: Today at 08:48:48 AM 
Started by Severian - Last post by podkarpatska
Down with Sunni fundamentalists, glory to God for Shia fundamentalists? Working together with Hezbollah sounds somewhat bad. Syrian goverment is in fairly bad situation but Shia zealots are not nice either.

Did that "artwork" get commissioned  by Kim Jung Un? BFF' s and all that.

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 on: Today at 08:46:15 AM 
Started by Timon - Last post by LBK
Greatmartyr Catherine of Alexandria is well and truly venerated by the Orthodox Church. This is all that really matters. Whatever other churches and groups do or say about her is of no consequence.

I suppose you are right. There are even plenty of folks out there who say Jesus never existed...

That's a different issue.  People who say Jesus never existed are deluding themselves.  St. Catherine is not a dogma, but a spiritual example for us.  If she did not exist, then this does not hurt the faith.

Yet, for the EO at least, venerating imaginary or non-existent people is wrong and improper.
would that be like vereating "Holy Silence"?

Not quite. Holy Silence (a winged androgynous angel) is a prefiguration of Christ, and iconography should show Him in the fullness of His revelation, as God Incarnate.

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 on: Today at 08:45:48 AM 
Started by Balthasar - Last post by podkarpatska
Isn't it a pity we have to have humans as bishops?  And so do the Romans.

Only a Great and Holy Council can decide.  Until then we just have to pray.

+1.

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 on: Today at 08:44:35 AM 
Started by Balthasar - Last post by podkarpatska
Umm, your questions are answered in the part Mor quoted. I read the document, and it is not preaching the truth in love, it is a rambling monologue of every imaginable fault, flaw or error in Catholicism, written in the same way that a junior high English report might be. "A website says you did x, when will you repent? We read in the newspaper that you said y, you dirty apostate! Also when will you tell us about what is really going on with your German banker, hmm?"

Westboro Orthodox perhaps ??  I'd expect such from a John Hagee .

Seriously, how are Bishops vetted in Greece? Anyone know? What type of region, population etc.do these two come from.

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 on: Today at 08:43:21 AM 
Started by Sirach - Last post by gueranger
Fascinating.  So you don't believe anyone's soul is actually in heaven right now?

Christ is there.  So is our Lady.  Enoch and Elijah, too.  But they have their bodies.  It is the life we live on earth, a life in which soul and body are united, which prepares us either for heaven or for hell.  In the resurrection, soul and body are reunited, and can enjoy the reward or suffer the punishment.  Prior to that, it is but a foretaste...   

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Where are they?  Hades?
 

...a foretaste in Hades or in Paradise. 

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The larger context of the prayer you referenced is, "We beseech You, Almighty Lord, unite us with the multitudes of the first-born whose names are inscribed in heaven. We remember them that they may also remember us before You and partake with us of this spiritual sacrifice for the preservation of the living, for the encouragement of us, the miserable, and for the rest of the faithful departed, our parents, brethren and masters by Your grace and mercy and of Your Only-begotten Son and of Your Holy Spirit, all holy, good, adorable and life-giving, Who is of one substance with You, now, always and forever."

It's rather clear contextually that we, "the miserable," are testifying to our need for the spiritual aid of them, "the multitudes of the first-born whose names are inscribed in heaven," to be united with them.  Again, I wouldn't describe this, ordinarily, as "praying for" them, but rather for us through their intercession and spiritual help.

We remember them...

1.  so that they may remember us

2.  so that they may partake of the sacrifice with us

While you seem to want to focus on #1, I'm arguing that #2 is equally important: if they partake of the sacrifice, it is offered for them.  For example:

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We worship and thank You, O Creator of the worlds and the Framer of creation, the Blessed Root Who sprang forth and came up out of the thirsty ground Mary, and by the scent of Whose glorious sweet fragrance the whole earth was filled, and Who dispelled the foul odor of paganism from all the regions by His glorious teaching. We offer You pure incense after the manner of the priest Aaron, who offered You pure incense by which he withheld the pestilence from the people of Israel. Yea, O Lord God, we beseech You to accept this fragrance of incense which we, in our weakness, offer to You for our sins and our iniquities and for our father Adam and our mother Eve, for the Holy Mother of God, Mary, for the prophets and the apostles, for the just and the righteous, for the martyrs and confessors, for the holy fathers and the doctors of true faith, for the anchorites and the monks, for the rich and the poor, for the orphans and the widows, for the distressed and the afflicted, for the sick and the oppressed and for everyone who has asked and bidden us to remember them in our prayers unto You, O Christ our God,and on behalf of the living and the dead for the rest of their souls in the heavenly Jerusalem. Glory and praise we shall raise up to You and to Your Father and to Your Holy Spirit, now and forever. Amen.

O High Priest and the Lord of Lords, Who entered and dwelt in His Holy Church on the altar, accepting the praises of the angels and the choicest sweet fragrance from all rational, incorporeal and perceptible beings.  Even now, O Lord, accept, with this sweet savor of incense, the praise of our mouths and the thanksgiving of our tongues, and through it, may we receive from You tranquillity for Your people, peace for Your flock, atonement for Your sheep and sweet smelling fragrance for Your Church. With it, grant rest and make good remembrance of Your Mother, Your saints and for all the faithful departed, O Christ the Son, Who are worshiped and glorified with His Father and His Holy Spirit, now and forever. Amen.

http://sor.cua.edu/Liturgy/Anaphora/Prep.html
 

That just blew my mind. Thank you!

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 on: Today at 08:39:19 AM 
Started by Timon - Last post by hecma925
Greatmartyr Catherine of Alexandria is well and truly venerated by the Orthodox Church. This is all that really matters. Whatever other churches and groups do or say about her is of no consequence.

I suppose you are right. There are even plenty of folks out there who say Jesus never existed...

That's a different issue.  People who say Jesus never existed are deluding themselves.  St. Catherine is not a dogma, but a spiritual example for us.  If she did not exist, then this does not hurt the faith.

Yet, for the EO at least, venerating imaginary or non-existent people is wrong and improper.
would that be like vereating "Holy Silence"?

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