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Title: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Psalti Boy on August 24, 2006, 05:38:55 PM
Could anyone tell me if there are any sites online where I can find music from the Oriental Orthodox Church?  Thanks
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Αριστοκλής on August 24, 2006, 05:43:24 PM
Hey, consider this my request as well. I like to hear Ethiopian especially.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Anastasios on August 24, 2006, 05:52:11 PM
http://tasbeha.org/
http://www.copticchurch.org/Audio/Alhan/listen_and_learn_hymns.htm
http://st-takla.org/Links/Coptic-Links-03-Multimedia.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Αριστοκλής on August 24, 2006, 05:55:06 PM
Thanks, but "Kyrie Eleison" in tribal congregational chant is unforgetable!

Heard it in high school history class in 1967 and never since (schools' not what they used to be).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Anastasios on August 24, 2006, 05:55:52 PM
http://www.syrianorthodoxchurch.com/Hymns.html

And finally, not Oriental Orthodox but Assyrian:

http://www.cired.org/pdf/raza.html (my fave is part II, some 4 min into it)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: StBrigid on August 24, 2006, 05:56:23 PM
Here are a couple I know of:

Coptic:
http://www.coptichymns.net
http://tasbeha.org/
http://www.agpeya.org

Syriac:
http://www.syriacmusic.com/

Armenian:
http://www.vem.am
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Psalti Boy on August 24, 2006, 06:38:28 PM
Thank you all.  I'll check them out.    :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 24, 2006, 09:39:42 PM
http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=643

The CD at the bottom--Yekmalian Divine Liturgy--is a very good recording of an entire Armenian liturgy, including the chants of the priest and deacons.  It's two CD's and it also comes with a booklet which translates the liturgy into English.  It's a bit expensive, though, at 29 dollars.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: coptic orthodox boy on August 25, 2006, 12:37:04 PM
Psalti Boy

I personally don't have a myspace, but when I did, I came across a few good cites with OO Liturgical music.  It's all free, just hit the link, then the song you want at the link.

Syrian:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=36228971
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=82303769

Ethiopian:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=94582938

For CDs, you can also go to this link
http://www.monasterygreetings.com/Products.asp?PCID=112

I own a few, my favorite being the Ethiopian Liturgy.  There's a part, about 10 minutes into the cd, when the priest is censing the church.  It is very beautiful to hear the chants with the little bells from the censer ringing.

Well, I hope this helps.

shawn




Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on August 25, 2006, 02:07:58 PM
This should be a sticky.

Thank you all.

Still missing a few, like Celtic and Malankara (if different) hymnology  Would love to hear those as well.

Mina
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on August 25, 2006, 11:29:38 PM
Paslti boy and anyone else interested,

The best of Coptic chant and music is scarce on the internet. I have been to just about every known site and 75% of what I have found is quite low quality, in terms of recording and voice. Most of the files on the net better serve the interests of one who seeks to learn Coptic chant/music, rather than one who seeks to enjoy Coptic chant/music in my opinion. If you want the gems, just ask me; I will gladly direct you to the best quality recordings on the net, and upload those you will never find on the net.

Here is one of my favourites that I have uploaded from a CD I own; it's the Goodfriday hymn Omonogenis chanted in Arabic:
http://www11.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=26921
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 26, 2006, 12:53:03 AM
This is another good one:


http://www.narek.com/store/product.php?productid=19260


It is a collection of Armenian hymns sung by a choir of young people orphaned by the war in Karabagh.  It's absolutely beautiful.  The last couple of songs are folk songs, but they are kind of cute.  The only complaint I have is that one of the hymns (I think #11) is cut off suddenly in the middle.  I don't know why they did that.  The CD is worth it though.  On the above website they let you listen to samples.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: John of the North on August 26, 2006, 02:54:39 AM
Blessed be,

Ethiopian Orthodox: http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/music/songs.htm

The Virgin Mary Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in Los Angeles also has CDs of their youth choir available:
http://www.ethiovirginmary.org/index_a.htm

www.tewahedo.org

Fiqir bandinet,
Ras Markos Yohannis Binyam
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Macarius on August 26, 2006, 09:23:15 PM
Paslti boy and anyone else interested,

The best of Coptic chant and music is scarce on the internet. I have been to just about every known site and 75% of what I have found is quite low quality, in terms of recording and voice. Most of the files on the net better serve the interests of one who seeks to learn Coptic chant/music, rather than one who seeks to enjoy Coptic chant/music in my opinion. If you want the gems, just ask me; I will gladly direct you to the best quality recordings on the net, and upload those you will never find on the net.

Here is one of my favourites that I have uploaded from a CD I own; it's the Goodfriday hymn Omonogenis chanted in Arabic:
http://www11.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=26921


yes , it is for learning the chants only not for enjoying the chants ..
i have a great Coptic Chants in nice voice and recorded in good way , i hope i can upload it to the internet ... i enjoy the chants in the feasts in my church because the deacons do it very well especially the bright saturday .. but most of the years they don't sing it well
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 29, 2006, 12:56:50 AM
I just discovered this website of Armenian Church music:

http://www.sograd.com/aacca/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: SaintShenouti on November 18, 2006, 12:58:54 PM
Quote
Still missing a few, like Celtic and Malankara (if different) hymnology  Would love to hear those as well.

Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on November 22, 2006, 12:07:43 AM
Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.

yup
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: paul2004 on November 29, 2006, 10:59:23 PM
Some songs from Indian Orthodox liturgy:

http://www.stgregorioschurchdc.org/cgi/doc.cgi?doc=Syllabus.doc&lang=en

-Paul
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on November 30, 2006, 01:46:07 AM
Some songs from Indian Orthodox liturgy:

http://www.stgregorioschurchdc.org/cgi/doc.cgi?doc=Syllabus.doc&lang=en

-Paul

Thank for that. Beautiful; though it sounds very Byzantine. And what's the deal with the organs (they turned me off a little)?!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on November 30, 2006, 01:50:16 AM
Are there any recordings of complete and live Indian Orthodox Liturgies in english that can be downloaded online?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: paul2004 on December 12, 2006, 07:03:14 PM
Dear Ekhristos Anesti, Liturgy is celebrated fully in English on two Sundays in a month (in some parishes only on one Sunday). I could not find a complete recording of Divine liturgy in English online. But here is a video of Divine Liturgy of Easter, almost complete in Malayalam with Metropolitan H.G. Mar Makarios of Canada & U.K. as the chief celebrant.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rxQ0pecJQUQ

You will find rest of the video, as well as other videos on the right side.

Peace

Paul
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 13, 2006, 02:27:02 AM
Dear Paul,

I've seen the youtube.com videos; they're beautiful. However, I would really, really like to hear an english recording of the Liturgy. If there are none readily available online, are there at least any CD's of quality recorded full english Syrian Orthodox Liturgies that I can purchase online?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Thomas Daniel (Reji) on December 13, 2006, 07:37:26 AM
Music of the Syriac Orthodox Church is enriched and has a sterling history running from the beginning of our times derived from the ancient Sumerian and Acadian musical period

http://www.syriacmusic.com/

Poetry and Music of the Syriac Orthodox Church

http://sor.cua.edu/Music/index.html

Beth Gazo D-ne`motho
The Treasury of Chants
http://sor.cua.edu/BethGazo/index.html

Listen to the Divine Liturgy
http://www.soc-wus.org/worship/liturgy.html

Notes and Hymns of the Divine Liturgy in Syriac
http://www.soc-wus.org/worship/hymns.html

Notes and Hymns of the Divine Liturgy in Malayalam
http://syrianorthodoxarchdiocese.com/music.html

St. Ephrem Patriarchal Choir
http://www.soc-wus.org/worship/patriarchal%20choir.htm

Selected Hymns
http://www.soc-wus.org/worship/selected%20hymns.htm






Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 03, 2007, 12:20:23 PM
I just found this site that has Armenian hymns you can listen to.  The CD they're from seems great, but I haven't ordered it yet.  I think you can get it through amazon.

http://www.vem.am/?go=projects/recording/choir/order
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on March 03, 2007, 07:49:50 PM
Salpy:

I have that one. It is excellent, and worth taking the time to order.

Michael
Title: more music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 12, 2007, 12:30:42 AM
Hello everyone.  I am new here.  I am an American who converted to Orthodoxy.  I belong to a Serbian parish.

The topic of Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox has fascinated me for quite some time.  Thank you very much for having this thread available.

On a side-note, does anyone here know where to purchase Oriental Orthodox chant on the internet?


Thank you,

God bless all
Title: more music
Post by: Entscheidungsproblem on June 12, 2007, 12:46:44 AM
Hello everyone.  I am new here.  I am an American who converted to Orthodoxy.  I belong to a Serbian parish.

And they say no one converts at Serbian parishes.   :P

Welcome to OC.net, by the way!  ;D
Title: more music
Post by: JawaMan on June 12, 2007, 12:55:05 AM
On a side-note, does anyone here know where to purchase Oriental Orthodox chant on the internet?
No, but one episode of Our Life in Christ had Ethiopian music on it. That was really cool.
Title: more music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 12, 2007, 03:28:49 AM
Dear Seraphim,

To be frank, OO chant on the net is quite lacking quality-wise, so free downloads are not usually the best representations in that respect. An exception to the rule: any of the hymns from here: http://www.davidensemble.com/english/multimedia/hymns_of_basilius_mass.htm

Notice for each hymn you have the choice of downloading the acapella, the instrumental, or the acapella mixed with the instrumental.
Title: more music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 12, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
EkhristosAnesti,

Thank you SO much for that link! 
The hymns are beautiful.
Also, the sound quality is excellent.

If anyone else knows of other sources to either purchase or download Oriental Orthodox chant,
please let me know.

Thanks again

God bless
Title: more music
Post by: Αριστοκλής on June 12, 2007, 11:34:50 AM
EkhristosAnesti,

Thank you SO much for that link! 
The hymns are beautiful.
Also, the sound quality is excellent.

If anyone else knows of other sources to either purchase or download Oriental Orthodox chant,
please let me know.

Thanks again

God bless

I "ditto" that 'thank you'. Now I don't have to search youtube for Coptic chants & hymns.
Title: more music
Post by: Didymus on June 12, 2007, 12:29:45 PM
If you search on Amazon.com you should be able to find a CD called "Ethiopian Liturgy" which you can buy together with "Syrian Liturgy" however these are cut to fit onto a single CD and only contain about 70 minutes worth of chanting. The "Eastern Churches' Collection" is also available if you're interested.

Salpy, thanks for saying you're Armenian. It doesn't say below your name anymore due to a computer problem that meant it was easier to remove that section. You could always add it back in under another section as I have though.
Title: more music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 12, 2007, 02:28:29 PM
Dear Seraphim and Aristokles,

You're both very welcome.

Seraphim (and anyone else interested),

There's an abundance of online sources for Coptic chant, and 90% of the files offered for download are disappointing (either due to the poor quality of the recording or the cantor--this is primarily because most are aimed towards an educational, rather than an aesthetic, purpose), so, in the interest of saving you time, I discourage you from any attempt to sift through the plethora of available online downloads; i'm going to create an esnips account and will commit myself to do my very best to upload at least a couple of good quality files (from the number of CD's i've obtained over the years) every week.
Title: more music
Post by: JawaMan on June 12, 2007, 03:50:34 PM
i'm going to create an esnips account and will commit myself to do my very best to upload at least a couple of good quality files (from the number of CD's i've obtained over the years) every week.
To quote Star Wars: "But my lord, is that legal?"
Title: more music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 12, 2007, 04:11:48 PM
To quote Star Wars: "But my lord, is that legal?"

The CD's I have wouldn't be available online, and most of them were purchased from Egypt. I wouldn't have the time to upload them all even if I wanted to, but I only intend on providing 1-2 tracks from each nevertheless.
Title: more music
Post by: Salpy on June 12, 2007, 04:21:30 PM
I am taking the thread on OO music and making it a "sticky," since interest in the subject is periodically renewed. 

EA, if what you are talking about really is legal, maybe it should be done on this music thread.  I'm looking forward to it, as I love Coptic music. 
Title: more music
Post by: minasoliman on June 12, 2007, 05:53:08 PM
Another thing you can do is make these songs available for streaming, not downloading purposes.  Long ago, with debates about whether to use Ibrahim Ayad recordings for downloading, the webmaster respected the copyright and said that uploading them for streaming would be appropriate and the legal thing to do.

I don't know much about legalities, but what do you think?
Title: more music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 12, 2007, 07:58:55 PM
EkhristosAnesti,

I would very much appreciate you sharing your music collection with us.   :)

As far as legalities, when the content is sacred I would not worry too much.  After all, the cantors don't have the copyright to music that has been around for centuries.  Also, a cantor is supposed to be singing for God not for money.  If there isn't a way to purchase the music, then what harm is there in sharing?  Just some thoughts.

God bless
Title: more music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 12, 2007, 09:14:22 PM
"one episode of Our Life in Christ had Ethiopian music on it."
Jawaman
_____________________________________________________________________


Do you have a link to this episode?

Ethiopian chant seems to be the hardest to find.

God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 13, 2007, 01:38:37 AM
Repies #25-38, above, were moved into this thread after being split from another topic:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11799.0.html#top

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 13, 2007, 12:17:38 PM
I've created an esnips folder which may be accessed here: http://www.esnips.com/web/MiscellaneousCopticOrthodoxChant

The files in this folder can be streamed and downloaded (the file will automatically stream once you select it; you will find a light grey download button below the streaming file, however, should you wish to download it).

The first file i've uploaded is Ya Mariam El Bekr by the Anba Reweis choir: http://www.esnips.com/doc/424f5acc-dd90-48b3-af1e-314044d7a186/Ya-Mariam-Al-Bekr---Anba-Reweiss-Choir

I will post an update upon each file I upload (which I will try to do on a weekly-fortnightly basis).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 14, 2007, 01:15:27 AM
EA,

the song is beautiful... thank you for sharing.  :)

However, I don't see a "gray button" to download the song. 
Do I have to be a member of esnips to download it?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 14, 2007, 09:30:59 AM
Dear Seraphim,

Apparently one would need to register and sign in in order to be able to dowload the files. Registration is simply a matter of providing an email address (which becomes your username) and creating a password. You should receive an email in order to activate your account, however, from my experience, you will not be bothered with any additional emails thereafter.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 14, 2007, 03:25:40 PM
EA,

I signed up and the download works fine.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 24, 2007, 02:12:47 AM
http://www.esnips.com/doc/3020c727-166b-4ce8-84f8-a52fa2bf73a4/Axion-Ke-Dikeon-(St.-Basils-Coptic-Liturgy)---Fr.-Paul-Melek

I've uploaded one of the priest's responses in the 'Heavenly Hymn' segment of the 'Liturgy of the Faithful', according to Coptic Orthodox Liturgy of St. Basil the Great.

Here's a line by line translation (he chants the first line in Coptic and the rest in Arabic):

Coptic: Axion ke dikeon, axion ke dikeon, alithos ghar khen omethmi, axion ke dikeon.
Translation: Meet and right, meet and right, truly indeed it is meet and right (i.e. to give thanks unto the Lord).

Arabic:  ayuha al-kaen’u al sayed al Rabu al ila al haq. Al-kaenu kabl al-dahur wa maleku ila al-abad.
Translation: O You, who are, Master, Lord, God of truth, being before the ages and reigning forever.

Arabic: Al-sakenu fi al-a’ali wa nazeru ila mutawade‘ein.
Translation: Who dwells in the highest and looks upon the lowly.

Arabic: al-lazi khalaka al-sama, al ard, wal bahara, wa kula mafeeha
Translation: Who has created the heaven, the earth, the sea and all is therein.

Arabic: Abu rabena wa ilahana mukhalesna yasoo’ el maseeh, haza el-lazi khalakta beehi kola shay’an mayoora wa la-mayoora.
Translation: The Father of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ, by whom you have created all things, seen and unseen.

Arabic: al-galesoo a’la a’rsh magdehe el mazgoodu lahu men gamee’a el quwat al muqadassa.
Translation: Who sits upon the throne of His glory, and who is worshipped by all the holy powers.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 02, 2007, 02:19:21 AM
A Marian hymn known as Mahlaky Ya Mariam chanted by Anton Iyad, who is the very young son of Ibrahim Ayad, the lead cantor at St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Cathedral in Cairo, Egypt:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c943bc3b-54e6-467d-a8cc-a43b1cb6e782/Mahlaky-Ya-Mariam---Anton-Iyad

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 12, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
The Coptic patriarchal hymn, E-Aghapi--one of the few hymns that is chanted entirely in Greek:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/e8020803-7181-4b53-9318-3d6607e69155/E-Agapi
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on July 12, 2007, 12:52:58 PM
The Coptic patriarchal hymn, E-Aghapi--one of the few hymns that is chanted entirely in Greek:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/e8020803-7181-4b53-9318-3d6607e69155/E-Agapi

I like Anton Iyad's voice better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzbRtnEJGk8

(that's my Church by the way)

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on August 12, 2007, 10:04:19 AM
I like Anton Iyad's voice better

My only real problem with a lot of Coptic cantors (especially the Ayads) is that they make no effort whatsoever to pronounce Coptic or Greek words with an accent that would make them somewhat recognisable. It's especially frustrating when someone has grown up outside of Egypt and barely speaks a word of Arabic, yet sings the Greek and Coptic hymns like he left Cairo yesterday.

One need not be a skilled linguist to say Kyrios instead of Kereyos.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on August 21, 2007, 05:09:37 AM
A beautiful Armenian Orthodox hymn about the land of Armenia:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/fa7e220e-ee24-4ead-ae4d-9db6c111ba3c/Armenian-Orthodox-Hymn,-St-Marys-Choir-Cilicia

Maybe Salpy can give us some extra information about the meaning and context of this hymn.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 21, 2007, 07:08:35 PM
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,8076.0.html

Above is a link to a thread about the Armenian Church having four patriarchs, one of which is the Catholicos of Cilicia.  The Turks of course killed or expelled all the Armenian inhabitants of Cilicia during the Genocide and the Catholicos of Cilicia moved to Antelias Lebanon.  He has jurisdiction over the Armenian churches in Lebanon and certain other places in the Middle East. 

The song you posted is about the desire to return to Cilicia "When the sparrow returns to his nest, When the trees are clothed with leaves..."  It's not really a religious hymn in my opinion.  It has more of a nationalist character to it.  However, it is quite beautiful and I think representative of the kind of music which has developed in the Armenian diaspora since the Genocide.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on August 22, 2007, 07:56:39 AM
Dear Salpy,

Thanks for the information. I gather then that this hymn/song is not performed within a liturgical context?

Although I could not understand a word being sung, I could definitely feel a range of emotions being conveyed: nostalgia, pride (the good sort ofcourse), power, pain etc.

Would you happen to know what CD this file is from, and where one can purchase it? I just found this particular file whilst browsing through a folder of random files on my computer; I cannot even recall where I initially downloaded it from.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 22, 2007, 06:57:05 PM
You're right, the song would not be used liturgically.

I don't know what CD that file is from, or specifically any CD which has the song, but I would try to inquire of the Eastern Prelacy of the United States (This is different from the Eastern Diocese.)  They have a vast CD collection and since they are affiliated with the Catholicosate of Cilicia, I would think at least one of their CD's would have it.  Maybe they even have the specific CD the file came from.  I would e-mail them with a link to the file and see what they say.

 http://www.armenianprelacy.org/bookstore/books.htm

Here are some of their CD's:

http://www.armenianprelacy.org/bookstore/tradition.htm
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on August 23, 2007, 02:37:02 PM
The Coptic patriarchal hymn, E-Aghapi--one of the few hymns that is chanted entirely in Greek:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/e8020803-7181-4b53-9318-3d6607e69155/E-Agapi

Just out of interest. I noticed that the part that says "and all the country of Egypt, and the city of our God Jerusalem, and the Five Western Cities, and Libya, and Nubia, and Ethiopia, and Africa" is sung in Coptic, not Greek. Does this mean it was a later addition to the hymn?

And is there any significance in Ethiopia still being mentioned, despite it now having its own Patriarch? Or did they simply not wish to revise the hymn?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on September 03, 2007, 02:44:38 AM
Video – Coptic Chant in English

I have been listening to Coptic chant for quite some time… but I have never heard it in English… until now.

I came across a video on YouTube with Coptic chant in English… and I am so glad to finally hear it in my native language! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRFM1n6sI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRFM1n6sI6Q)

However, I was rather shocked by the exclusively Roman Catholic images that went with the chant… I am very confused.  I ask the Coptics on this forum two questions:

1) why do you think Coptic icons were not used for this video?
2) does anyone know where to purchase (or download) Coptic chant in English?

Thank you all for your help
God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on September 03, 2007, 08:31:09 AM
2) does anyone know where to purchase (or download) Coptic chant in English?

Chants performed by people who can actually chant in the proper Coptic manner, and that are recorded with high quality equipment? Not that I know of i'm afraid! My parish has a number of very talented and gifted chanters who often lead the English Liturgies. I tried to record them some time ago using somewhat professional software on my computer; unfortunately my computer crashed a while after and I lost all the files before I had the chance to back them up. I may try to re-record them soon.

For now, I don't have much to offer. Here is what I consider to be a reasonably good chant (in english) of one of the Sunday Gospel readings. It is nevertheless not without its shortcomings: 1) It's not the best quality recording, and 2) the reader sounds somewhat "fresh off the boat", but his accent is not too bad I guess: http://www.esnips.com/doc/550519b9-b74a-4e34-9157-652540e96fb3/Coptic-Gospel-Chant-in-English---Jn-14.1-11

Gospel Intro: Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. Our Lord, our God, our Saviour, and the King of us all, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, to Whom Glory is due forever. Amen.

Gospel reading (John 14:1-11): 1 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.” 5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” 8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on September 03, 2007, 03:22:44 PM
EkhristosAnesti,
thank you so much!  :D

I love hearing all the different Orthodox styles of reading the scripture.

God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 03, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
Dear Seraphim,

I sorta know this guy who posted the video.  I think he likes Western art and is very well-rounded when it comes to music and art.  It's just his own personal preference.

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on September 03, 2007, 04:26:05 PM
minasoliman,
thank you for the info

God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on September 07, 2007, 08:45:54 AM
Here is a segment of St Gregory's Anaphora to the Son of the Coptic Gregorian Liturgy chanted in english (except for the first three words) by Fr. Antonious Tanious:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c70d5a1c-f07a-4784-a2d9-a5478776948f/Segment-1---Coptic-Gregorian-Liturgy---Anaphora

PRIEST:

Agios.  Agios.  Agios. 

Holy, Holy, Holy are You, O Lord, and Holy in everything, and most excellent is the light of Your Essence.  Unexplainable is the power of Your wisdom, and no manner of speech can measure the depth of Your love for mankind.

You, as a Lover of mankind, created me as a man.  You had no need of my servitude, but rather, I had need Your Lordship.  Because of the multitude of Your tender mercies, You brought me into being when I was not. You have raised heaven as a roof for me, and established the earth for me to walk on.

For my sake, You have bound the sea. For my sake, You manifested the nature of animals.  You have subjected everything under my feet. You have not left me in need of anything of the works of Your honor.  You are He who formed me, and laid Your hand upon me.  You inscribed in me the image of Your authority. You have placed in me the gift of reason; and opened for me Paradise to enjoy.

You gave me the learning of Your knowledge.  You manifested to me the Tree of Life, and made known to me, the sting of death.  Of one plant You forbade me to eat of, that concerning which
You said to me, “Do not eat of it only.” But according to my will, I did eat. I put Your Law behind me of my own counsel and became slothful towards your commandments. I plucked for myself the sentence of death.

CONGREGATION:

Lord have mercy.

PRIEST:

O, thou, my Master, have turned for me the punishment into salvation.  As a Good Shepherd, You have sought after the one who had gone astray.  As a True Father, You have labored with me, I who had fallen. You have bound me with all the remedies that lead to life.  You are He who sent to me the prophets for my sake, I the sick.

You havw given me the Law as a help.  You are He who ministered unto me salvation to me when I disobeyed Your Law.  As a True Light, You have shone upon the lost and the ignorent.

CONGREGATION:

Lord have mercy.


I will post the rest of it later when I have time to enhance the quality of the recording a bit more as I did with this one.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 07, 2007, 11:55:29 AM
I stumbled upon this:

http://www.coptichymnsinenglish.net/

I also recommend people to listen to Fr. Antonious Tanious' Gregorian liturgy (in English) found here:

http://saint-mary.net/hymnology/divine_liturgies/st_gregory/

Fr. Bishoy Demetrious is also excellent, but it's in Arabic.

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on October 11, 2007, 10:07:37 AM
minasoliman...

thank you so much!  My OO chant collection is slowly growing, but I have such a desire to hear it in English.  These links are a most wonderful blessing.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music - "The Burning Bush" (English)
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on October 27, 2007, 11:34:53 AM
Here is a sample of an english recording of the Vigil Praise "The Burning Bush" which is chanted during the Coptic Month of Kiahk:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/c1b54380-4f6f-4347-88fc-d5821bdfa6e5/The-Burning-Bush---Kiahk-Tasbeha---English

The month of Kiahk (which begins this year on Dec. 11) is dedicated to the Virgin Mary in preparation for the Feast of the Nativity upon which the month of Kiahk concludes (7th Jan). Here are the lyrics of the sample selection I have uploaded:

I open my mouth and proclaim;
And utter hidden mysteries,
With the praise of Virgin Mary.
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

Gabriel the Messenger came to you,
"With the Incarnation of the Logos,
The Lord will dwell in your holy womb."
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

"The Holy Spirit will come upon you;
The Most High will overshadow you;
And you shall bear the Son of God."
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

Refrain:
The burning bush seen by Moses,
The Prophet in the wilderness;
The fire inside it was aflame,
But never consumed or injured it.


The same with the Theotokos Mary,
Carried the Fire of Divinity,
Nine months in her holy body,
Without blemishing her virginity.


David your father, said of you,
And prophesied about the birth;
That God will be held in your bosom.
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

All that was said has been fulfilled,
The proclamations and prophecies,
About the birth of Emannuel.
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

Through you blessed and fair Mary,
We were free from slavery,
God has filled you with eternal grace.
Blessed is the pride of the human race!

Refrain:
The burning bush seen by Moses,
The Prophet in the wilderness;
The fire inside it was aflame,
But never consumed or injured it.


The same with the Theotokos Mary,
Carried the Fire of Divinity,
Nine months in her holy body,
Without blemishing her virginity.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on October 27, 2007, 02:33:31 PM
I was wondering if anyone could provide me with the Syriac and English text to the hymn sung at the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLaYp-G5_wI). It's simply beautiful (as is everything in the Syriac rite).

The name of the singer would be great too.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on November 06, 2007, 12:23:47 PM
Indian Orthodox chant by Fr. Saji Thomas:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2887415995711769755&hl=en
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Entscheidungsproblem on December 21, 2007, 01:39:17 AM
Coptic Divine Liturgy in Italian:

http://www.esnips.com/web/messacoptainitaliano
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 22, 2007, 12:02:06 AM
This Ethiopian Orthodox hymn is beyond beautiful:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VNyy60aeGt8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 25, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
Another beautiful Ethiopian hymn:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C7D2v0BUzYc


I wonder if the woman singing in the video is a popular singer over there.  A couple of times in the video she seems to be singing to large crowds.  In any event, the hymn is beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 25, 2007, 09:28:37 PM

This is the Armenian "Lord have mercy."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8CxIqYGHztU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 25, 2007, 10:21:40 PM
Armenian Lord's Prayer, sung in a church in Fresno:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y27f5nU6whg&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 25, 2007, 11:02:02 PM
This is the Armenian "Lord have mercy."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8CxIqYGHztU

That was awesome. I love strong male voice solo chants. Do you know of any other hymns online of a similar style?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on December 25, 2007, 11:30:22 PM
I was wondering if anyone could provide me with the Syriac and English text to the hymn sung at the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLaYp-G5_wI). It's simply beautiful (as is everything in the Syriac rite).

The name of the singer would be great too.

Thanks!

I'm sorry, I can't be of much help re: the singer, or the exact text, but it is basically the introduction of a standard part of liturgical prayers called variously "Proemion" or "Hoosoyo".  Examples can be found here: http://sor.cua.edu/Liturgy/Anaphora/Supplications.html

Salpy and/or other Armenians, I have a question.  When His Holiness Karekin II was visiting America this past October, I had an opportunity to attend a couple of services with him at the cathedral in Manhattan.  There's a song they sing whenever he enters and exits a place, and I was told that's "his song", and it's only sung for the head of the Church.  I thought it was awesome: is it online somewhere? 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 25, 2007, 11:50:26 PM
That was awesome. I love strong male voice solo chants. Do you know of any other hymns online of a similar style?

I wish!

I really admire the way the Ethiopians have put so many of their gorgeous hymns on youtube.  There are very few Armenian hymns on there and the quality of most of them is not that great.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 25, 2007, 11:53:44 PM
Salpy and/or other Armenians, I have a question.  When His Holiness Karekin II was visiting America this past October, I had an opportunity to attend a couple of services with him at the cathedral in Manhattan.  There's a song they sing whenever he enters and exits a place, and I was told that's "his song", and it's only sung for the head of the Church.  I thought it was awesome: is it online somewhere? 

What you heard is probably one of these two hymns:

http://www.sograd.com/aacca/Miscellaneous/OrhnerkHayrabedagan.htm

http://www.sograd.com/aacca/Miscellaneous/Hrashapar.htm


_________________________

I'm editing this post to provide a link to better versions of the two above hymns:

http://pontificalvisit.org/ParishResources/parishResources.htm

If you click onto the Audio Recordings versions of the two songs, you will hear them nicely sung.

Just a note:  Orhnerk Hayrabedagan is a hymn asking God's blessing specifically for the Catholicos of Etchmiadzin.  Hrashapar, however, can be sung for other patriarchs, and I think I have heard it sung for a bishop who is entering a church in a procession at the beginning of the liturgy.  I think when the Catholicos last visited Los Angeles, the choir sung Hrashapar when he entered the church, and Orhnerk Hayrabedagan at the end of the service.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 26, 2007, 08:22:51 AM
There are very few Armenian hymns on there and the quality of most of them is not that great.

I found this precious jewel:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ywnAwgV9_ic

The video starts off like a documentary, but the host, Isabel Bayrakdarian (who seems to be a famous Armenian singer?), starts singing this beautiful Armenian Resurrection hymn ("Havum, havun") inside one of the ancient Armenian churches--The church of Sourp Keghart--at 2:55. It seems that the hymn itself dates back to the fifth century, and the composition to the tenth century. She sounds absolutely divine.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 26, 2007, 05:43:09 PM
Thank you.  That was beautiful.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on December 29, 2007, 04:48:55 PM
This Ethiopian Orthodox hymn is beyond beautiful:

This one's become a favourite of mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdMPkLejNbg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 29, 2007, 04:59:01 PM
Ethiopian music is awesome!  The rest of us need to follow their lead and put more of our hymns on places like youtube.  I always felt that our hymnology (OO and EO) is one of the best witnesses to the beauty of the Christian faith.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 29, 2007, 05:09:44 PM
Actually, here is a great Coptic video that actually has the translation of the hymn with it.  Cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzbRtnEJGk8&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 29, 2007, 07:30:46 PM
Actually, here is a great Coptic video that actually has the translation of the hymn with it.  Cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzbRtnEJGk8&feature=related

That's the church I normally attend when I'm home for the vacations.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 29, 2007, 07:50:13 PM
What a beautiful church!  Do you know the guy who did the video? 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 30, 2007, 12:34:38 AM
What a beautiful church!  Do you know the guy who did the video? 

Yes, I do :)  He's good at video editing and he plays the oud and piano (at least that's the two I seen him play).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 31, 2007, 01:09:23 AM
This hymn is sung in the Armenian Church on Holy Thursday and tells of Christ washing the feet of His Apostles:



http://youtube.com/watch?v=S87KgPfu1UI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on December 31, 2007, 02:35:23 PM
Just came across another beautiful mezmur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5ppQLrrjA&feature=related) by Deacon Tizitaw.

Any of the forum's Tewahedo members have any idea where we could get the names of, and words to, some of these songs?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: marmina on January 02, 2008, 02:29:06 PM
one of the most beatiful hymns in coptic church TENEN said in the month of kiahk the month that preceed  christmas all in greek except the last few words in coptic
http://rapidshare.com/files/80708577/tenen_tenoeh.mp3.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/80708577/tenen_tenoeh.mp3.html)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on January 04, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
It is indeed amazing how many Ethiopian Orthodox videos there are on YouTube.  I love them all.

It seems that most Ethiopian videos are studio-recorded hymns which are combined with other video footage.  It is very nice to see all the different visual clips with the same hymn... however, I really appreciate it when I find a video that is an actual live event where "what you see is what you hear."  There is something very special about seeing things in "real-time" and hearing the natural acoustics of the environment.  Also, even though there is usually a "lead singer," I enjoy hearing everyone singing at the same volume (it makes it seem like I'm actually there).

Having said that, here is my most favorite Ethiopian Orthodox video/song of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTM8g3au6s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTM8g3au6s)


God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 12, 2008, 05:27:05 PM
Having said that, here is my most favorite Ethiopian Orthodox video/song of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTM8g3au6s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTM8g3au6s)


God bless

I love how the congregation sings along in that one.  I don't see as much congregational singing as I would like in the Armenian Church.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on January 16, 2008, 04:10:33 AM
I always felt that our hymnology (OO and EO) is one of the best witnesses to the beauty of the Christian faith.

Very, very true. 
Funny... we were just discussing that tonight at our parish board meeting while brainstorming about missionary activity.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on January 16, 2008, 04:12:27 AM
I love how the congregation sings along in that one.

That's part of why I enjoy it so much.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 20, 2008, 04:38:39 PM
Courtesy of Salpy: A majestic Armenian Orthodox Hymn chanted during the Blessing of the Waters on Holy Feast of the Epiphany: http://www.esnips.com/doc/00c7142b-82f8-4587-81d2-e32df4906cfc/Ov-Zarmaneli-(O-Wondrous)

This file is Track 11 of the Armenian Christmas Hymns CD which can be purchased at the following link: http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4731


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 20, 2008, 04:40:09 PM
Salpy also sent me the lyrics to this hymn, but I will have to dig them up and type them out later as I am rushed for time this morning.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: alexp4uni on January 20, 2008, 05:51:03 PM
Salpy where can I order Varoujan Makarian? I searched Amazon and nothing turned up.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 20, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
Salpy where can I order Varoujan Makarian? I searched Amazon and nothing turned up.

Here is something by him:

http://www.liturgica.com/cart/musicInfo.jsp?catNo=AK015
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 20, 2008, 06:33:32 PM
Thank you, EA, for posting the Epiphany hymn.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 23, 2008, 07:57:01 AM
Courtesy of Salpy: A majestic Armenian Orthodox Hymn chanted during the Blessing of the Waters on Holy Feast of the Epiphany: http://www.esnips.com/doc/00c7142b-82f8-4587-81d2-e32df4906cfc/Ov-Zarmaneli-(O-Wondrous)

This file is Track 11 of the Armenian Christmas Hymns CD which can be purchased at the following link: http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4731

From the same album:

Looys Ee Loosoh ("Light from Light"):

http://www.esnips.com/doc/8da18b21-b4f3-4771-8d21-b315209855d3/Looys-Ee-Loosoh

Again, courtesy of Salpy. Thanks Salps!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 26, 2008, 08:18:30 PM
Segment of the Armenian Orthodox Liturgy by the Youth Choir of St Mary's Armenian Orthodox parish in Toronto:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/7a28285e-8080-48fc-a9ca-542878d08e08/Badarak---Toronto-youth-choir-of-St-Marys-Armenian-Orthodox-church

Salpy, do you know how one might be able to purchase any of their CD's? I went to the parish website and they weren't advertising anything; a google search failed to yield any relevant results either.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 26, 2008, 09:04:19 PM
I looked at a few websites and I couldn't find any CD's from this group.  The only thing I can think of is to contact the Canadian Diocese and ask if this group has any CD's and if they carry it.  I think they have a bookstore, but that part of their website is not up.

http://www.armenianchurch.ca/contact.php


If they don't have it, ask who would.  Also, you may want to just e-mail the parish that produced the music and see if they can help you.

The part of the liturgy recorded is a part that is right after the intercessions.  It is relatively new.  I think it began to be sung a couple of hundred years ago in Istanbul and it caught on everywhere else.  At least that is what I heard.  It is prayers for mercy.  You hear "Der Voghormia," and that means "Lord have mercy."  Some of the lines in English:

Again in peace let us beseech the Lord.

Lord, have mercy.

By all the saints whom we have commemorated, let us moreover beseech the Lord.

Lord, have mercy.

By the holy, divine and immortal sacrifice offered on this holy altar, let us beseech the Lord.

Lord, have mercy.

That the Lord our God, who has accepted the same at his holy, heavenly and itelligible altar, may in return send down upon us the grace and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, let us beseech the Lord.

Lord, have mercy.

Receive, save and have mercy and keep us, O Lord, by your grace.

Save us, O Lord, and have mercy on us.

Commemorating the all-holy Mother of God and ever virgin Mary together with all the saints, let us beseech the Lord.

Be merciful, Lord, and have mercy.



It is sung between the deacons and choir.  The "Lord have mercy" parts are by the choir, I think sung here by the kids.



Shortly after this, the Lord's Prayer is sung.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on February 02, 2008, 05:01:03 PM
Segment of the Armenian Orthodox Liturgy by the Youth Choir of St Mary's Armenian Orthodox parish in Toronto:

EkhristosAnesti, I continually appreciate your sharing OO chant with the forum via the eSnips website.  However, about a month ago, eSnips quit letting me download the songs you post.  Even when I signed in to the site, the download button still was not displayed.

I think I just figured out what happened.  eSnips made a change in their audio policy.  Whoever uploads audio files now has the option of making them down-loadable or not.  By default, the files are not down-loadable, so you have to manually select the download option for every audio file you upload. 

Here is a link to the eSnips audio policy page:
http://esnippers.typepad.com/esnippers_den/2007/12/the-download-bu.html (http://esnippers.typepad.com/esnippers_den/2007/12/the-download-bu.html)

Whenever you have time, it would be greatly appreciated if you could go back and make all your recent audio posts available for public download.
Thank you so much for all your contribution to this forum.  God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: HaileAmanuel on February 03, 2008, 07:43:24 PM
Dear Seraphim (and others who may be interested),

I am sorry that the Ethiopian Orthodox Church music is so difficult to find [outside of the actual Church].  At this moment, I cannot recall the brother's name, but there were some websites that he posted:

www.tewahedo.org & www.ethiopianorthodox.org

1st: You may go to, www.tewahedo.org, then go to the right of the screen, I think the eighth link down says, 'wedasie mariam andemta'--it means, 'The Interpretation of the Praise of St. Mary'. 

This prayer is a Monday-Sunday prayer that St. Ephraim the Syrian composed, and tradition says that he met St. Yared the Ethiopian in Egypt and transferred this prayer to him.  The history of 'how' the prayer was composed by St. Ephraim is a little lengthy.  Anyway, in the Ethiopian/Eritrean Orthodox Tewahido Church, this prayer is spoken and sung.  It's unbelievable and it's long when sung or chanted.

2nd: When you click that link, it will take you to a page that you will see St. Mary and Her Beloved Son on the left.  In the center of the page you will see the links for RealPlayer/WindowsMedia/PDF listed.  Above is the Amharic, which says, 'Wedasie Mariam Andemta' and on the other side it says, misbak, which means 'The Psalm', but it refers to the 'chanted' Psalm of David, usually for the Divine Liturgical Service or Se'atat.  In Ethiopia, the Psalms of David are also called mezmur, like the Coptic.

3rd: In the first link, which is on the top-left of the list, you can hear a very brief example of St. Yared's a-qwa-qwa-m.  In this a-qwa-qwa-m, you will hear the chanter singing about the Seraphim and the Sanctus [or Q-dus, Q-dus, Q-dus I-g-zee-a-b-hay-r Tsa-ba-o-t F-tsu-m...].

4th: On the opposite side, you can click on the list from top-to-bottom and hear the chanter, chanting the Psalm or misbak for the occasion.  On this occasion, the teacher is teaching about the Interpretation of the [prayer] Praises of Mary.  It takes place during the Fast of the Virgin [August], that is why there are 16 links. 

For the other link: www.ethiopianorthodox.org

1st: Click on ENGLISH, once you enter the site. 

2nd: Click below [under the link that says, English] on CHURCH MUSIC

3rd: Once you click on CHURCH MUSIC, there should be a page written mostly in Amharic, but will say Church Music in BOLD letters. 

4th: Underneath, there is a grid with Ge'ez/Amharic on the left and English on the right. 

5th: You may listen to what you like, of course, but the links for the ETHIOPIAN LITURGY, ST. YARED'S HYMNS and the WEDASIE MARIAM, I know that they work and are typically clear.  Please try them anyway. 

*If you click on St. Yared's Hymns, this is ma-ha-lay-t or chant, it is expressed through a-qwa-qwa-m for the specific holyday. A-qwa-qwa-m means 'to stand.' During this time of praise, those who studied this type of St. Yared's hymnology stand for a very long time chanting with the use of three instruments: Tsi-na-tsi-l [sistrum], ke-be-ro [drum] and me-qwa-mee-ya [prayer stick, just like the ones that the Sanhedrin & high-priests had on Passion of Christ].

From top to bottom, the links start with: (1) St. John (2) St. Michael (3) Birth of Christ (4) Baptism of Christ (5) Resurrection of Christ (6) Genbot Lideta-The Major Commermoration of St. Mary's Birth (7) Hedar Mikael-Commemoration of St. Michael in Hedar/Hator

I hope that this helped a little and I hope that you will be able to enjoy it.

Take care and peace to all,

HaileAmanuel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on February 08, 2008, 12:50:07 AM
HaileAmanuel...
thank you SO MUCH for sharing those links!   :)

It is such a marvelous blessing to hear some Ethiopian chant in English (although, of course, it sounds most natural in Ethiopian).
May God bless you
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: HaileAmanuel on February 08, 2008, 05:31:52 PM
Seraphim,

You are very welcomed.  Please take care and God be with you...

Sincerely,

HaileAmanuel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on February 20, 2008, 08:14:40 PM
It is such a marvelous blessing to hear some Ethiopian chant in English

I find it interesting that while the Ethiopian chanting is so radically different, the entoned reading is done in almost exactly the same way as in the EO churches, as opposed to the entoned reading of the Coptic or Syriac churches, which is very different.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 21, 2008, 01:11:48 AM
I split off a post asking for translations of Ethiopian Timkat hymns:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,14782.0.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: HaileAmanuel on February 21, 2008, 02:30:17 AM
Dear Orthodox11,

How are you?  I think that you may be referring to the Lections/Liturgy readings in English on the EthiopianOrthodox.org site?

This is not the typical tone of how the lections are read.  Now, if you hear the Amharic Lection readings, it will sound somewhat like the Ge'ez--which again, is a very different style and tone from all others that I have heard in various Churches.

Take care and if I find anything else, I will share it with the forum.

Sincerely,

HaileAmanuel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: falafel333 on February 21, 2008, 03:38:55 AM
Just out of interest I was wondering if anyone could contribute any liturgical audio from the Assyrian Church of the East.

Thanks
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on February 21, 2008, 05:27:07 PM
Just out of interest I was wondering if anyone could contribute any liturgical audio from the Assyrian Church of the East.

Thanks

Um... I was under the impression that the "Assyrian Church of the East" is not in communion with either OO or EO.
Am I correct?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on February 21, 2008, 06:02:17 PM
Dear Orthodox11,

How are you?  I think that you may be referring to the Lections/Liturgy readings in English on the EthiopianOrthodox.org site?

This is not the typical tone of how the lections are read.  Now, if you hear the Amharic Lection readings, it will sound somewhat like the Ge'ez--which again, is a very different style and tone from all others that I have heard in various Churches.

I heard entoned-reading (not sure what the best term is) in both English and Amharic when i visited an Ethiopian church recently, and the style was almost exactly the same as what I hear when things like the Psalter are read at the EO monastery here.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on February 21, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
Um... I was under the impression that the "Assyrian Church of the East" is not in communion with either OO or EO.
Am I correct?

Yes, that is true.  I think it might be more fit if another thread can be created for that purpose, i.e. finding the hymns of the Assyrian Church.

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: HaileAmanuel on February 23, 2008, 12:54:01 PM
I heard entoned-reading (not sure what the best term is) in both English and Amharic when i visited an Ethiopian church recently, and the style was almost exactly the same as what I hear when things like the Psalter are read at the EO monastery here.

[Sorry, I'm still ignorant concerning replies]

Peace Orthodox 11,

I will try to find the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church liturgy online with the traditional style of how lections are read. 

Take care,

HaileAmanuel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 11, 2008, 04:22:57 PM
I came across a beautiful video on YouTube of an Armenian Liturgy.  The sound quality of the recording is very rough, but if you can listen through the pops, hiss, and low volume you are surely in for a blessed treat!

0:20-2:00 is my favorite part. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnTiWT90rc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnTiWT90rc)

It is very interesting to hear the organ in an Orthodox service.  For Americans, the sound of an organ is almost always considered synonymous with Roman Catholicism.  However, in this video I didn’t even notice the organ sound at first… it blended so seamlessly with the chant.  It is nice to have a further understanding that certain “characteristics” of Rome (such as the use of organs during services) are not inherently wrong just because Rome practices them; rather, the real issue is of course the theological context in which Rome operates.

Anyway, I don’t want to get too far off on that tangent.  I just wanted to share this gem of a video!  God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 12, 2008, 01:29:50 AM
Beautiful Syriac Orthodox chant:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aME-GwLOya4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 12, 2008, 10:58:25 AM
It is very interesting to hear the organ in an Orthodox service. For Americans, the sound of an organ is almost always considered synonymous with Roman Catholicism.  However, in this video I didn’t even notice the organ sound at first… it blended so seamlessly with the chant.  It is nice to have a further understanding that certain “characteristics” of Rome (such as the use of organs during services) are not inherently wrong just because Rome practices them; rather, the real issue is of course the theological context in which Rome operates.

You will also find certain EO parishes, particularly in America, where the organ is used during services. However, this is of course a recent innovation and goes against the traditional position of the Church - rooted in the opinions of Fathers such as St. John Chrysostom - that discourages the use of musical instruments in churches.

In the Syrian Orthodox Church too, use of the organ is commonplace. But, again, this was a departure from the traditional teaching of that Church:
Quote
Traditionally, the use of musical instruments is avoided in liturgical services. In 1930, at the Synod presided by late Patriarch Elias III at Dayro d-Mor Mattay, the use of an organ was permitted. Today the use of musical instruments is becoming increasingly prevalent in Syriac Orthodox Churches, particularly in the services of the divine liturgy, weddings, etc. While the nominal use of an instrument enhances the spiritual experience, excessive use detracts from it, especially when it discourages the participation of the congregation. Along with the use of musical instruments, innovations on traditional Syriac melodies for hymns, especially in the divine liturgy, are now increasingly common, often influenced by the secular music of the larger society in which the Syriac Orthodox communities reside. While some of these innovations enhance the musical heritage of the Church, and provide a contemporary flavor to the ancient liturgies, departures from the Syriac musical genre and frequent innovations affects participation of the entire congregation in liturgical music and detracts from the sanctity and purpose of liturgical music.

Source (http://sor.cua.edu/Music/index.html)

Likewise, in the Coptic and Ethiopic traditions, percussion (cymbals, triangles, drums, etc.) is permitted, but melodic instruments are not.


I would be interested in knowing how/why/when the organ was introduced into the Armenian Church and whether the use of other instrumentation was common, or even acceptable, prior to its introduction. Salpy?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on March 12, 2008, 01:23:35 PM
There is an organ in my church. It's really only there for the benifit of the choir to help them for certain notes.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 12, 2008, 05:27:57 PM
in the Coptic and Ethiopic traditions, percussion (cymbals, triangles, drums, etc.) is permitted, but melodic instruments are not.


Well, I'm a little confused at this statement.  True, in all the Coptic videos I've seen the only instruments used were cymbals and triangles.  However, in most every Ethiopian video I’ve seen they not only use rhythmic instruments (drums, cymbals) but also melodic ones like flutes and stringed instruments. 

Also, I’ve noticed that in Ethiopian worship both the melodic instruments and the people are all singing the same note at any given time.  In other words: no actual harmony, just rhythmic melody.  This same principal also seems to apply to Coptic chant.

Some input from an Armenian, Copt, or Ethiopian would be very helpful at this point.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 12, 2008, 05:39:51 PM
There is an organ in my church. It's really only there for the benifit of the choir to help them for certain notes.


In my opinion, as long as the human voice is the overwhelming, main driving force, then some instruments for vocal “support” are fine. 

This video is the Orthodox Liturgy in Seoul, Korea.  The choir uses an organ in the same manner Andrew just described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx4liWFEyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx4liWFEyo)

The organ is hard to even notice until about 1:00 when everyone stops singing so the deacon can proclaim: “Wisdom, let us attend!” 
Then at 1:15 you can distinctly hear an organ begin the song. 

(By the way, I was so glad to find this video.  It was one of the first exposures I ever had to Korean Orthodoxy.)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 12, 2008, 06:05:02 PM
However, in most every Ethiopian video I’ve seen they not only use rhythmic instruments (drums, cymbals) but also melodic ones like flutes and stringed instruments.

I'm prepared to stand corrected, but I do not believe (and have never seen) flutes or stringed instruments are used as part of the Ethiopian liturgy.

They are used in pretty much every religious song - mezmur - i've ever heard (like the ones on youtube), but I've yet to come accross them in a liturgical context, which is what I was refering to above.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 12, 2008, 07:16:50 PM
I'm prepared to stand corrected, but I do not believe (and have never seen) flutes or stringed instruments are used as part of the Ethiopian liturgy.

They are used in pretty much every religious song - mezmur - i've ever heard (like the ones on youtube), but I've yet to come accross them in a liturgical context, which is what I was refering to above.


Ah, yes, now that I think about it, all the Ethiopian melodic instrument videos I saw were not in actual liturgical settings... although they were obviously very spiritual in nature.  I look forward to hearing someone clarify this issue.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 12, 2008, 07:43:37 PM


I would be interested in knowing how/why/when the organ was introduced into the Armenian Church and whether the use of other instrumentation was common, or even acceptable, prior to its introduction. Salpy?

I think the organ was officially approved for liturgical use during the 1920's.  What probably happened was after the Genocide when the survivors went into diaspora, they most likely saw the organs in their friends' Catholic and Protestant churches and wanted the same.  I don't know.  I'm not that wild about the organs.  They add to the "concert mentality" and sometimes drown out the choir.

The only other instruments I've seen are cymbals used by the Armenians from Istanbul during the Matins service.  We have deacons in our church from there and sometimes our priest lets them do their thing.  It's really quite awesome.  We're not talking the small cymbals used by the Copts.  We're talking the really big ones, like the ones used in orchestras. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 12, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
I think the organ was officially approved for liturgical use during the 1920's.  What probably happened was after the Genocide when the survivors went into diaspora, they most likely saw the organs in their friends' Catholic and Protestant churches and wanted the same.  I don't know.  I'm not that wild about the organs.  They add to the "concert mentality" and sometimes drown out the choir.

The only other instruments I've seen are cymbals used by the Armenians from Istanbul during the Matins service.  We have deacons in our church from there and sometimes our priest lets them do their thing.  It's really quite awesome.  We're not talking the small cymbals used by the Copts.  We're talking the really big ones, like the ones used in orchestras. 

Thanks Salpy! You don't suppose there's a recording of the matins from Constantinople available somewhere online do you?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 13, 2008, 12:24:14 AM
I've never seen a recording of the matins service from anywhere, unfortunately.  If I come across it, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 13, 2008, 12:49:52 AM
Thanks Salpy! You don't suppose there's a recording of the matins from Constantinople available somewhere online do you?

O.K.  I can't believe I found this on youtube.  I guess youtube has everything.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8E4tP7l9ae0

This is a recording of Park ee Partsoonts Asdoodzo done in Constantinople.  That hymn comes toward the end of the matins service.  It's a hymn which I think other Orthodox have also.  It starts off with "Glory to God in the Highest..."

Anyway, about a third of the way through you can hear them start with the cymbals.  Unfortunately, they don't show the deacon playing them.  You can hear them, though.  It really wakes you up when you are there early on a Sunday morning.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 13, 2008, 01:30:45 AM
O.K.  I can't believe I found this on youtube.  I guess youtube has everything.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8E4tP7l9ae0


Nice! Thanks for sharing.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 13, 2008, 01:31:40 AM
You were right. It's really quite awesome. ;D Thanks again!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jmkora on March 16, 2008, 09:57:56 PM
Try watching this to get a better feel for the Indian Liturgy:
http://www.youtube.com/v/xaooARLF4sw&rel=1
The celebrant is Rev.Fr.Aju Mathews. The consecration of the mysteries (from 1:28 to 3:19) is excellent.

Here are some hymns in Syriac, which is one of our liturgical languages. They are sung by Rev.Fr.M.P.George, who is the Principal of our School of Liturgical Music:
http://malankaraorthodoxchurch.in/images/zoom/BAIXHX/Itho_Itho.mp3
http://malankaraorthodoxchurch.in/images/zoom/BAIXHX/Oah_Umarudu.mp3
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 16, 2008, 11:04:27 PM
That is so cool!  Thank you!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: stashko on March 17, 2008, 04:11:27 AM
Most excellent thank you..i enjoyed the video's .....stasko/stanislav
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on March 20, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Try watching this to get a better feel for the Indian Liturgy...
Here are some hymns in Syriac...


Thank you so much for sharing the Indian video and chants!  It is so nice to hear the Indian Liturgy in English.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 25, 2008, 12:36:36 AM
Another Indian Orthodox video, I think related to the one posted earlier by jmkora.  The hymn in this one is so beautifully sung!  I think it's the Trisagion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3f50nNbDpY
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on April 30, 2008, 10:51:37 AM
and me-qwa-mee-ya [prayer stick, just like the ones that the Sanhedrin & high-priests had on Passion of Christ].[/i]

What is the purpose of the prayer stick, besides just making standing easier? Does it have a practical or symbolic function? And is it reserved for clergy, or can any layman use one?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on May 02, 2008, 08:38:50 PM
I love Ethiopian music. Here are a few of my finds on Youtube. All are sung by Yilma Hailu. He has a great voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOgHuYRxKJs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOgHuYRxKJs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aQGNeMoMIg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aQGNeMoMIg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgry2ajik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgry2ajik)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuC8nsT0seo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuC8nsT0seo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ruA96Fj0Rg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ruA96Fj0Rg)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Rosehip on May 02, 2008, 09:22:51 PM
I love Ethiopian music too. Here's one of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSUJffsRLA

The singing has such an ethereal quality to it. Can anyone tell me what it means when they hold their hands, palm upwards, as they sing?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 24, 2008, 04:26:06 PM
Here are some Palm Sunday processional hymns and chants by our Malankara Syrian Orthodox brothers.  I love how they have kids throwing the palm fronds in the air.  It must have been fun.   :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8D-ruysWvc&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on May 25, 2008, 09:11:28 PM
Here are some Palm Sunday processional hymns and chants by our Malankara Syrian Orthodox brothers.  I love how they have kids throwing the palm fronds in the air.  It must have been fun.   :)

Thanks, Salpy, that was beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on May 25, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
I found some very precious videos of Eritrean Orthodox children singing mezmurs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAG_9JSGfIg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAG_9JSGfIg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nVHH1-IBEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVOUxSUx8TI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6SWhJulDg&feature=related

 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 25, 2008, 10:12:25 PM
Those were beyond darling.  I especially liked the one where the kids had their own little prayer sticks.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on May 27, 2008, 10:49:52 AM
I love Ethiopian music too. Here's one of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSUJffsRLA

The singing has such an ethereal quality to it. Can anyone tell me what it means when they hold their hands, palm upwards, as they sing?

Prayer...

In Ethiopia singing is prayer put to song or poetry (Mezmur).

In the old testament you will read about worshipping God with hands "lifted up".

Ethiopia is very rooted in the "old testament world" which intrigues many who incounter the nation today. Much of the nations character, eb and flow is that which is relevant to life of "biblical" era old and new testament worlds living as a single undivided culture.

It is forgotton by many that Ethiopia has played a direct role in the entire biblical epic.

It is very complex.

I hope this answered your question.

The song you posted here is very beautiful indeed. It is in Ge'ez and so I am not sure of all the words. But I can tell you that it is filled with praises of Gods gifts to us all and that such gifts are relevant to us and work (sera) with us (Christians) to keep us safe in this life while preparing for the next life.

Peace to you
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 30, 2008, 12:11:02 AM
This is a hymn sung in the Armenian Church during Holy Thursday night.  It depicts Christ in his suffering yearning for the comfort of His holy mother.  Every year when this is sung, you can hear people in the congregation crying.  It is very sad and beautiful.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk0buDhyGSE&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on May 31, 2008, 04:17:24 PM
On Monday (June 2, 2008) I am going to be meeting with a group of Muslims... and I want to share some Orthodox chant with them.

Does anyone know of links to Orthodox chant in ARABIC

EkhristosAnesti has already shared two Arabic songs on his esnips account (Ya Mariam Al Bekr, Axion Ke Dikeon)... and thank you so much for that!  :)

If anyone knows of more... please share.

Thanks, and God bless
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 31, 2008, 06:02:35 PM
You might want to try Coptichymns.net

http://www.coptichymns.net/index.php?module=hymns&func=catview

and Tasbeha.org

http://tasbeha.org/mp3.html

I think they have hymns in Arabic as well as Coptic.  I've seen some of them on Tasbeha come with lyrics and translations.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on May 31, 2008, 11:34:26 PM
Thanks, Salpy, I bookmarked them both!  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on June 01, 2008, 12:30:11 PM
http://www.coptichymns.net/modules.php?name=Coptic_Media&op=modload&file=index&p=Spiritual%20Songs/Arabic%20Songs

Here's some in Arabic, hymns and some traditional songs sung in the Coptic Church.  I would look at the ones with the end "Ayaad" since they stick with the traditional.  I haven't listened to the other ones.

Look also at "Pascha Songs."  My favorite in this one is this (Omonogenes, or "Oh Only Begotten Son" in Arabic):

http://www.coptichymns.net/modules.php?name=Coptic_Media&op=modload&file=index&l=12&p=Spiritual%20Songs/Arabic%20Songs/Pascha_Songs/pascha_ayuhal-ibn.rm

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 03, 2008, 10:00:46 AM
Here's some in Arabic hymns and some traditional songs

Thanks, for your help, Mina. :) 
I downloaded most of the chants last night... they are certainly beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on June 04, 2008, 03:54:51 PM
Thank you Mina. There are some very beautiful chants on there.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 09, 2008, 12:05:56 AM
A beautiful Coptic Orthodox burial hymn from Holy Friday:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=No5PkVen3UA&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 09, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
I believe I may have found a Serbian mezmur (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iuczNQonTXQ&feature=PlayList&p=754899B8745C8CDF&index=5)!!!  :D

Any honest, constructive feedback on how this video is like/unlike Ethiopian mezmurs?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 10, 2008, 12:05:15 AM
That was absolutely beautiful!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on June 10, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
I believe I may have found a Serbian mezmur (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iuczNQonTXQ&feature=PlayList&p=754899B8745C8CDF&index=5)!!!  :D

Any honest, constructive feedback on how this video is like/unlike Ethiopian mezmurs?


Very beautiful, but different.

I do hear elements in the arrangement that like that of Ethiopian Mezmure.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 14, 2008, 07:18:37 PM
It could just be me, but this song really seems to contain a lot of the ancient roots of contemporary American jazz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aghj2Nqorag&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aghj2Nqorag&feature=related)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on June 16, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
It could just be me, but this song really seems to contain a lot of the ancient roots of contemporary American jazz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aghj2Nqorag&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aghj2Nqorag&feature=related)

You do know that the "ancient roots" of American Jazz is African.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 16, 2008, 02:53:15 PM
You do know that the "ancient roots" of American Jazz is African.

Yes... I posted this particular song because, of all the mezmurs I've heard, this particular one seems to be the most "Jazz-like."
(and, of course, it is also very beautiful!  :))
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 16, 2008, 05:22:17 PM
Here are some Palm Sunday processional hymns and chants by our Malankara Syrian Orthodox brothers.  I love how they have kids throwing the palm fronds in the air.  It must have been fun.   :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8D-ruysWvc&feature=related

The above is repy 131 on page three of this thread.  Just now, I discovered an old thread elsewhere in the OO section describing what the children in that video are doing:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,5591.0.html#lastPost
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Quinault on June 16, 2008, 07:06:23 PM
That is really great. My daughter wants to go now!

Could anyone translate and tell me what they are singing?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 16, 2008, 07:17:55 PM
the children in that video...

Beautiful, darling, sacred!  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 16, 2008, 07:20:05 PM
Jacobite Syrian Christian Holy Mass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH5rZ_hGmDE)

This church's decoration is quite elaborate and colorful... like looking at a glimmering rainbow.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 17, 2008, 01:47:51 PM
The above youtube video seems to show what Mor Ephrem once described as a "simultaneous celebration."  It seems like an interesting Indian Orthodox tradition.  Mor Ephrem's comments on it can be found here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,192.new.html#new
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 17, 2008, 03:08:30 PM
The above youtube video seems to show what Mor Ephrem once described as a "simultaneous celebration."  It seems like an interesting Indian Orthodox tradition.


Very interesting indeed.

I was a little confused when I first saw this video (because of the "simultaneous celebration"), but then I vaguely remembered the thread Salpy just mentioned.  Thanks for connecting the dots for us, Salpy.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 21, 2008, 02:44:49 PM
The Lord's Prayer in Syriac:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLZr11JhMM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 23, 2008, 03:29:20 PM
St. Nersess Seminary has an instructional page on the Liturgy.

http://www.stnersess.edu/classroom/badarak/index.php?iw=1&lid=2&unth=1&id=1

If you click on the "hymns" button at the top, you get some of the hymns sung during the Armenian liturgy, with the music.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on June 23, 2008, 04:34:30 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxXMnIuiv38) goes out to all my peeps who today embark on the Fast of the Holy Apostles Peter and Paul.  8)

I've been wanting to post this since Pascha...

A young Ethiopian woman plays the "begena" (also called Harp of David)...
which I understand is only to be played during times of fasting.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 25, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
This is a "vesting hymn" sung at the beginning of the liturgy of the Armenian Church:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=s7t8TNX4oM4

I think the pictures in the liturgy are from Noravank Monastery, an ancient monastery in Armenia.

The translation of the hymn is as follows:

O mystery deep, inscrutable, without beginning,
You have decked your supernal realm
As a nuptial chamber to the light unapproachable
And adorned with splendid glory the ranks of the fiery spirits.

Heavenly King,
Preserve your Church unshaken
And keep in peace
Those who worship your name.

(Translation taken from the Divine Liturgy book published by the Eastern Diocese of the United States.)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 26, 2008, 01:27:16 AM
This is something chanted every Sunday in the Armenian Church, by the deacons standing around the altar:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bPvIW1x_OMM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 28, 2008, 01:21:54 AM
Famous Armenian singer, Lucine Zakarian, is heard in this video.  The hymn played here, Horjham, is not a hymn you hear every Sunday, but rather on certain feast days:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cO77g4mRHm8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 08, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
A Coptic Nativity hymn, E-Parthenos, in English and Arabic:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AmFZg_89wO4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 10, 2008, 02:01:51 PM
Some beautiful chanting from the Coptic midnight praise service:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_YYgScw-fSU&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on July 10, 2008, 03:20:34 PM
Some beautiful chanting from the Coptic midnight praise service:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_YYgScw-fSU&feature=related

I agree. Beautiful!

I ran into trouble with a person or two that I emailed the link to. I forget how badly many people see the protestant, secular style 'pictures' that the Copitc Church chooses to use on and in some or certain of its media material.

I have so much of it I no longer notice.

Certain people are hyper sensitive to seeing 'western' images on, in or relating to eastern material. The Coptic tradtional Icons are accepted among this same group of people I know for example.

Anyway they did love the hyms.

These same people love the Coptic people and the blessed Coptic Holy Christian Traditions. Most of these people are American born converts to Orthodoxy of African ancestry. They expect to 'see' eastern tradition and are shocked and disappointed that we (Ethiopian churches as well) use such images at times or in certain situations.

My work is almost all missionary among converts. So I am obligated to reach them. I get so much support from the Coptic Church with this effort.

It is amazing how a small thing to us we do not even see the convert sees in bold colors.

WE must be alert to this somehow.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 10, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
I think all of our Churches over the last couple of centuries became exposed to Western religious art and in many places began using it.  That is definitely true of the Armenian Church.  I am thankful that in Armenia now they have set up schools of iconography where young people are learning the old style.  I know the Copts are also reviving their iconographic tradition.  Let's pray that this continues.

It's great that you are e-mailing these links to people.  I always believed that one of the best witnesses to the Christian faith is our music.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on July 10, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
I ran into trouble with a person or two that I emailed the link to. I forget how badly many people see the protestant, secular style 'pictures'...

Certain people are hyper sensitive to seeing 'western' images on, in or relating to eastern material...

American born converts to Orthodoxy... expect to 'see' eastern tradition and are shocked and disappointed that we (Ethiopian churches as well) use such images at times or in certain situations...

It is amazing how a small thing to us we do not even see the convert sees in bold colors...

WE must be alert to this somehow.


Americans are raised with the understanding that Christianity is an exclusively Western European religion that has been historically racist against all non-European races and cultures. 

Our contemporary culture presents us this view:
Ancient Christianity = Papism/Romanism, Crusades, Inquisition, mass extermination of indigenous culture.....
Modern Christianity = Protestantism, slavery, endless quarrels, emotionalism

One of the most common complaints about "Christian art" is that Jesus is always depicted as a blond-haired blue-eyed Western European... in the renaissance, emotional, photo-realistic style.  Most white Americans are ashamed of Western European history (mostly all the things done in the name of "Christianity") and most black Americans are (understandably) very bitter.  So, when you have a country full of people who are both ashamed and bitter about most anything Western European/"Christian"... but who are still seeking Christ, they are SO EXCITED to finally find anything from "eastern"/Orthodox Christianity.  They finally feel liberated from their shame and bitterness.  HOWEVER, when all of a sudden they see this new, fresh, pristine "eastern" world tainted with the dreaded "western" culture it causes all that shame and bitterness to come rising back to the surface... giving a feeling of "I KNEW it was too good to be true!"
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on July 10, 2008, 10:13:02 PM
I am thankful that in Armenia now they have set up schools of iconography where young people are learning the old style.  I know the Copts are also reviving their iconographic tradition.

Glory to God!  :D

Let's pray that this continues.

Amen!  Lord have mercy!

It's great that you are e-mailing these links to people.  I always believed that one of the best witnesses to the Christian faith is our music.   :)

Most definitely  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on July 15, 2008, 02:10:14 PM

Americans are raised with the understanding that Christianity is an exclusively Western European religion that has been historically racist against all non-European races and cultures. 

Our contemporary culture presents us this view:
Ancient Christianity = Papism/Romanism, Crusades, Inquisition, mass extermination of indigenous culture.....
Modern Christianity = Protestantism, slavery, endless quarrels, emotionalism

One of the most common complaints about "Christian art" is that Jesus is always depicted as a blond-haired blue-eyed Western European... in the renaissance, emotional, photo-realistic style.  Most white Americans are ashamed of Western European history (mostly all the things done in the name of "Christianity") and most black Americans are (understandably) very bitter.  So, when you have a country full of people who are both ashamed and bitter about most anything Western European/"Christian"... but who are still seeking Christ, they are SO EXCITED to finally find anything from "eastern"/Orthodox Christianity.  They finally feel liberated from their shame and bitterness.  HOWEVER, when all of a sudden they see this new, fresh, pristine "eastern" world tainted with the dreaded "western" culture it causes all that shame and bitterness to come rising back to the surface... giving a feeling of "I KNEW it was too good to be true!"

Seraphim my good brother!

Thank you ofr your very clear and concise way of explaining this issue. It is very well put.

I may need to use this explanation one day !

You hit the point right on.

Thanks.

God bless you +
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on August 07, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
Ethiopian pop star Teddy Afro (Tewodros Kassahun) singing Orthodox mezmur  ;D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl8LWjZgsE

Would one of our Amharic speakers be able to give a translation?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on August 08, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
Here are two wonderful Ethiopian songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx9mt0sP5tg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx9mt0sP5tg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLeMkfdDFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLeMkfdDFI)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Amdetsion on August 08, 2008, 06:18:29 PM
Ethiopian pop star Teddy Afro (Tewodros Kassahun) singing Orthodox mezmur  ;D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl8LWjZgsE

Would one of our Amharic speakers be able to give a translation?

Traditionally Orthodox songs are sung in all Ge'ez; not Amarinya. It sounds like this recording is using both Ge'ez and Amarinya; mixed.

It is a very powerful song I must say. Starting with excerpts from 'our father prayer' and then transitions into the Ethiopian Orthodox prayer to the Holy Virgin not the whole prayer but in peaces. Rather creatively. The song sways along with points of God our savior, "descended from david" and so on.

The song appeals to the Mother of God to intercede for mankind.

It is a very penitent piece. I have never heard sung this way. The arrangement is not Orthodox but secular Ethiopian traditional. The arrangement used is usually used with love songs and such which is Tedy Afros fame. As such many conservative Ethiopians will not look too favorably upon the song for this reason.

I feel the song is challenging to listen to.

I was surprised. Very surprised.

I beleive the artists is trying to test the waters of how far he can go. Maybe he may think that this style of mewze'ka will replace traditional 'mez'mewr' or add to it even if only to reach the younger generation. I do not know.

I am a conservative and feel that the artist is reaching a little bit far and should be careful with what he is doing.

Art is art and Holy is Holy. These are not good mixes to me.

Rome got caught in this mixing of art and holy tradition and produced many good things I imagine but also has to live with the reputation of 'art' in regard to its religious artifacts which is unfortunate. The Cisteen Chaple is to me a really difficult experience. The paintings are outragious and provocative but at the same time have a intent to express 'holyness'. This same thing happened with choral and liturgical chant in the western church which is now viewed as 'art' as well do the the large scale use of these religious forms in secular venues such as Opera and so-called 'classical' music.

I prefer to keep sacred sacred.


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on August 10, 2008, 02:41:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOSWpV2JbfY

Quote
Church of Christ The Savior in Shushi, Karabakh (Artsakh)

The Christian monuments of Shushi are at last free from vandals and in the hands of their rightful owners being restored to it its past.  The church of Christ The Savior, which is a centerpiece of the city, was in undignified by years of disrepair, vandalism, and destruction under Azeri rule. During the Azeri-Karabakh war, the church was turned into ammunition depot of rockets used for daily shelling of capital Stepanakert.  However, after liberation of Shushi by Armenian forces of Karabakh, the church of Christ the Savior was restored and put back in service for locals. This video has remarkable footage of the first moments, when the church was liberated and restored.



This video brought :'( of joy.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 16, 2008, 05:59:28 PM
Another Armenian hymn sung by Lucine Zakarian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djoq5OalnOI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 17, 2008, 07:26:56 PM
Here is some chanting recorded in India:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWjG4Y9jpPA&NR=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 17, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
From a Good Friday service in a Syriac Orthodox Cathedral:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFw2yZIhyA&feature=related

The chanting is gorgeous, and also note the symbolism in the service, including what I think is supposed to represent the sealing of Christ's Body in the Holy Tomb.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on August 22, 2008, 01:18:11 PM
From a Good Friday service in a Syriac Orthodox Cathedral:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFw2yZIhyA&feature=related

Wow, thanks!  I've had a Syrian chant album for years with this song on it.  It is wonderful to actually SEE it being sung in a church... and quite a joy to be able to sing along!  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: alexp4uni on August 22, 2008, 03:07:01 PM
From a Good Friday service in a Syriac Orthodox Cathedral:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFw2yZIhyA&feature=related

The chanting is gorgeous, and also note the symbolism in the service, including what I think is supposed to represent the sealing of Christ's Body in the Holy Tomb.

Somehow the Syrians on the commenting board were a little touchy when the curtain was closed and the camera was still on.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 22, 2008, 04:08:59 PM
Wow!  I just saw the comments under the video.  I hadn't noticed those before.  I would think, however, that the video would not have been published without the knowledge and consent of a priest or the bishop.  I think the entity publishing it was the cathedral.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on August 29, 2008, 06:27:11 PM
http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp (http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp)

Coptic chant in English sung by the monks of St. Anthony's Monastery in California.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on August 29, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp (http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp)

Coptic chant in English sung by the monks of St. Anthony's Monastery in California.

Actually, while this was guided by the Monastery, most of the voices were normal lower ranking deacons (like singers and readers), many of them I know and met.

The one who said "Amen! Alleluia! Kyrie Eleison!" before the Hooses would be the late HG Bishop Karas, the previous Abbott of the monastery, a very holy man I and many others have loved personally, truly a saint.

It is a blessing to hear his recorded voice in the Psalmody.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on September 11, 2008, 03:01:23 PM
http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp (http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp)

Coptic chant in English sung by the monks of St. Anthony's Monastery in California.


Awesome!  Thanks for sharing.  So wonderful to have both discs available for free download!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 17, 2008, 09:29:36 PM
Here is Only Begotten Son and the Immortal Word of God (O Monogenes) in Malayalam:

http://www.imeem.com/people/CnAF6pb/music/uo64Piuh/038ninmaathavump3/

I got this link from our poster dhinuus in this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,17446.msg254056.html#new
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on September 20, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
Ethiopian New Year spirtiual song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aL9l8a--o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aL9l8a--o)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 22, 2008, 10:40:30 PM
About 40 seconds into this video you can hear the vesting hymn that is sung at the beginning of the liturgy when the priest enters the church.  This is the same hymn that was sung in the link posted in reply #159 of this thread.  However, this one is sung by a choir and its melody is the melody which you typically would hear in an Armenian parish church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxUPoHHum6w
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 26, 2008, 01:28:33 AM
Some beautiful chanting and hymns from the end of an Indian Orthodox liturgy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XuR3udUXc&NR=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 05, 2008, 12:02:04 AM
Another beautiful mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTOXZOQCva8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 06, 2008, 12:09:52 AM
This is a recording of the hymn sung during the Kiss of Peace in the Armenian Church.  The hymn is ancient, but the music in this recording was written by Gomidas Vartabed, about one hundred years ago.  The recording starts with the deacon calling for the Kiss of Peace, and advising those who are outside the doors and can't partake to pray.  This, of course, goes back to the days when those doing penance were not allowed in the nave during the Eucharistic part of the liturgy.

If you click onto "more info," you get the translation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjbTAA9XteI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 07, 2008, 12:20:42 AM
Syriac hymn, Haw Nurone, sung by deacons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKcPXrJaiW0&feature=related

The words to the prayer can be seen by clicking on "more info."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: OrthodoxPilgrim on October 07, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
The Syriac Hymn: "O Habibi" usually sung on Good Friday......I fondly remember singing this church in Malayalam in the Mar Thomite Church....the words that such that will surely bring tears...I believe the same is sung in Arabic and is sung in the Eastern Catholic church as well.......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aIEHPM2mw

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: OrthodoxPilgrim on October 09, 2008, 10:21:26 AM
I don't know if anyone has posted this already, but it's the "Ave Maria" in Syriac..."Shlomo Lech Mariam"

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FHID7QAY0E
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 10, 2008, 01:13:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6yguKvKCO4

Above is a Syriac prayer, Ebke, Ebke, sung by a monk of St. Ephraim Monastery in Syria.  The translation is included under "more info."


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on October 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
The Syriac Hymn: "O Habibi" usually sung on Good Friday......I fondly remember singing this church in Malayalam in the Mar Thomite Church....the words that such that will surely bring tears...I believe the same is sung in Arabic and is sung in the Eastern Catholic church as well.......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aIEHPM2mw



Lord have mercy. That is so beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 13, 2008, 12:05:49 AM
I think this guy is trying to do something artsy with the traditional hymns of the Armenian Church.  I'm not sure how I feel about it.  It is interesting, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEZyHIhe_9E
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 15, 2008, 12:19:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3Ev9fcAps

Above is some beautiful and joyful singing at a Coptic mission in Zambia.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 17, 2008, 12:09:46 AM
Prayers for mercy by an Armenian choir in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeoYVrFk1Vo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: OrthodoxPilgrim on October 19, 2008, 12:05:36 PM
A very moving prayer by Coptic monks from a monastery in California.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRFM1n6sI6Q

In Christ,

+
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 22, 2008, 12:08:01 AM
I think this is a Syriac hymn attributed to St. Ephrem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqURwDo3K0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 22, 2008, 07:03:29 PM
I think this is a Syriac hymn attributed to St. Ephrem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqURwDo3K0

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9840.msg249975.html#msg249975  ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: OrthodoxPilgrim on October 23, 2008, 10:30:25 AM
I am positive that this has been pasted here already. But I need to post it again....this is incredibly moving....

The Armenian Hymn "Der Voghormya" ("Lord Have Mercy")


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxIqYGHztU


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Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 29, 2008, 12:09:48 AM
Syriac Orthodox hymn, To Ba-Shlom Ru 'Yo Shariro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWCE5PI_Ow
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 11, 2008, 09:06:01 PM
This hymn is sung in the Armenian Church after Communion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTEQpxgnRZs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 14, 2008, 11:52:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8rnuP-VKA&feature=related

An Armenian hymn sung at the tomb of St. Gregorios in India, during the recent visit of His Holiness Karekin II.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on November 15, 2008, 02:17:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8rnuP-VKA&feature=related

An Armenian hymn sung at the tomb of St. Gregorios in India, during the recent visit of His Holiness Karekin II.

Out of curiosity, the tomb of St. Gregorios is under the protection of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, not the Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2008, 02:29:21 AM
I have no idea. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on November 15, 2008, 02:50:57 AM
So I guess that the Armenians have no problems with using accompanying instruments along with their chanting?

I really have no idea how much of an issue this is in different churches, it just seems unusual to me based of my limited Orthodox experiences.

Can you direct me to any CDs available with Armenian Chant that don't have any accompanying instruments?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2008, 03:18:44 AM

Can you direct me to any CDs available with Armenian Chant that don't have any accompanying instruments?


I think using the organ started during the 1920's.

Arevagal in Geghard is one of my favorite CD's of chant with no accompanying instruments.  Below are a few places that sell it:

http://www.abrilbooks.com/music/5261.html

http://www.armenianprelacy.org/bookstore/religious.htm   (third down on the right)

http://www.narek.com/store/product.php?productid=18671&cat=260&bestseller

The last link will let you listen to samples.  I think the very last track has a light organ playing with the singing, but the voices of the children who sing it are so angelic, you don't notice.   :)  The rest of the hymns I think are sung by seminarians.  Track nine is the Trisagion.  The twelveth track, for which the CD is named, has the hymns of the Prime Service.  I love those hymns.  They were written by St. Nerses the Gracefilled.  "Arevakal" means "coming of the sun."  "Arev" is sun, "kal" is coming.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on November 15, 2008, 03:33:58 AM
One of the sites describes that the songs were originally used as worship of the sun and were adapted for Christian "Son" worship.  Do you know anything about this?

By the way, thank you for sharing, I will most definitely buy this.

What do you think of this album:

http://www.liturgica.com/cart/musicInfo.jsp?catNo=AK015 (http://www.liturgica.com/cart/musicInfo.jsp?catNo=AK015)

Is it also worth buying?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on November 15, 2008, 04:01:53 AM
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2008, 04:25:19 AM
I haven't listened to the CD you linked to, so I can't tell you what it's like.

With regard to the Arevakal service, I don't know for sure about the accuracy of the information.  The Narek site that makes that statement is not really a religious site, so who knows who wrote it.  

There is some truth to the statement that the Armenians before Christianity worshiped fire and, I think, even the sun.  I seem to recall being told that in preChristian times, villages would have a person whose job it was to call for the sun right before sunrise.  I seem to recall seeing it in an Armenian movie once, but it was many years ago and I can't recall what the movie was.  

It could be that some of this carried over into Christianity.  It would make some sense, since images of light are often used to describe Christ.  ("I am the Light of the world.")  St. Nerses definitely used images of light and the rising sun in the Prime prayers.  You see this in the English translation of some of those prayers, which I copied in the OO Prayer thread, reply #2:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13200.msg183101.html#msg183101

I have a story about the Prime prayers.  I love them so much, that I memorized some of them a long time ago in the original Classical Armenian.  About 14 or 15 years ago, there was a strong earthquake that struck in the early hours of the morning.  If I recall correctly, it was 6.9, or thereabouts.  Anyway, my mom was trapped in her bedroom, and it was pretty awful getting her out.  She was alright, but the house was an absolute mess and trying to clean up and evaluate the damage was pretty hard with just flashlights and camping lanterns.  (When you live in Southern California, you always have some of those in the house.  This wasn't our first big earthquake.)  The electricity of course was out, and right after a quake, you can't be sure for a while if you can use the gas or even if the water is OK.  Then, of course, there were lots of pretty strong aftershocks, which came quickly and often.

Anyway, back to the prayers.  It seemed like it was taking forever for the sun to rise, and I was feeling a bit desperate for better light than I could get with something that was battery operated.  I went out onto the back porch to get some air, and while I was out there, I just started whispering some of the Prime prayers.  Of course, that didn't hurry the sunrise or anything.   :)  But it did help me feel God's presence at a time when I needed it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2008, 03:56:20 PM
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).

You may want to check out the CD mentioned and linked to at the bottom of page four of this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9840.msg249970.html#msg249970

It's chant by the monks of St. Antony Monastery, in California:

http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 16, 2008, 01:38:20 AM
I love this mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF7uGIg1cl4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on November 16, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
Here is a very beautiful mezmur; one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgScZfz8ZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgScZfz8ZE)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 18, 2008, 03:18:45 AM
Some chanting and hymns at a Christmas service in a Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FKzbyDo6PQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 22, 2008, 02:57:27 AM
Two hymns ("sharagan") of the Armenian Church:

The first is the Trisagion.  The second one is sung before the Great Entrance.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 22, 2008, 05:31:58 PM
My goodness, but I must have been tired when I made the above post.  I forgot to paste the link!

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyK0LAj61c
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 24, 2008, 02:22:20 AM
Another Armenian hymn.  I'm not familiar with it, but it seems like a special feast day hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxmVhJMqR6E&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 03, 2008, 02:12:06 AM
Syriac Orthodox Christmas prayers sung in Aramaic, in Jerusalem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA354kM3fXA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 11, 2008, 01:06:17 AM
Seminarians singing an Armenian hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my6DmORFiA0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: ialmisry on December 11, 2008, 08:51:16 AM
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).

UNESCO did one on Syriac Chant, but I think it is out of print (or whatever word used when they don't make a CD anymore).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: ialmisry on December 11, 2008, 08:52:22 AM
I haven't listened to the CD you linked to, so I can't tell you what it's like.

With regard to the Arevakal service, I don't know for sure about the accuracy of the information.  The Narek site that makes that statement is not really a religious site, so who knows who wrote it.  

There is some truth to the statement that the Armenians before Christianity worshiped fire and, I think, even the sun.  I seem to recall being told that in preChristian times, villages would have a person whose job it was to call for the sun right before sunrise.  I seem to recall seeing it in an Armenian movie once, but it was many years ago and I can't recall what the movie was.  

It could be that some of this carried over into Christianity.  It would make some sense, since images of light are often used to describe Christ.  ("I am the Light of the world.")  St. Nerses definitely used images of light and the rising sun in the Prime prayers.  You see this in the English translation of some of those prayers, which I copied in the OO Prayer thread, reply #2:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13200.msg183101.html#msg183101

I have a story about the Prime prayers.  I love them so much, that I memorized some of them a long time ago in the original Classical Armenian.  About 14 or 15 years ago, there was a strong earthquake that struck in the early hours of the morning.  If I recall correctly, it was 6.9, or thereabouts.  Anyway, my mom was trapped in her bedroom, and it was pretty awful getting her out.  She was alright, but the house was an absolute mess and trying to clean up and evaluate the damage was pretty hard with just flashlights and camping lanterns.  (When you live in Southern California, you always have some of those in the house.  This wasn't our first big earthquake.)  The electricity of course was out, and right after a quake, you can't be sure for a while if you can use the gas or even if the water is OK.  Then, of course, there were lots of pretty strong aftershocks, which came quickly and often.

Anyway, back to the prayers.  It seemed like it was taking forever for the sun to rise, and I was feeling a bit desperate for better light than I could get with something that was battery operated.  I went out onto the back porch to get some air, and while I was out there, I just started whispering some of the Prime prayers.  Of course, that didn't hurry the sunrise or anything.   :)  But it did help me feel God's presence at a time when I needed it.

Thanks for the testimonial.  Lovely how when trained in prayer, it just comes.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 21, 2008, 10:37:01 PM
From a Coptic church in Nairobi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz2BKykU8To&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 02, 2009, 02:46:29 AM
I recently recorded a friend of mine chant the Coptic Nativity hymns E-Parthenos and Pijinmisi in English. The file is available for download on my website: click here (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1#Eparthenos).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: prodromas on January 02, 2009, 03:00:49 AM
I recently recorded a friend of mine chant the Coptic Nativity hymns E-Parthenos and Pijinmisi in English. The file is available for download on my website: click here (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1#Eparthenos).
I am unable to right click to download the files :(
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 02, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
Yeah sorry about that. A friend of mine handles the technical side of things; not sure why right click doesn't work. Nevertheless, a pop-up dialogue giving you the option to save the file to a particular location should open upon clicking the link.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: prodromas on January 02, 2009, 09:48:24 AM
Yeah sorry about that. A friend of mine handles the technical side of things; not sure why right click doesn't work. Nevertheless, a pop-up dialogue giving you the option to save the file to a particular location should open upon clicking the link.

Nah, it just opens another window with the music file playing as opposed to downloading it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 02, 2009, 11:18:07 AM
Hmmm...I'll speak to my friend about getting right click enabled once he returns from his short trip. Thanks for pointing out this little glitch.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 12, 2009, 01:15:37 AM
Awesome Christmas carols:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtghP14OlR0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 15, 2009, 02:10:35 AM
The chant used in this Indian Orthodox liturgy is lovely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERH9s_7nn4&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 16, 2009, 11:26:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKLN4-drww

The above video captures hymns from the Armenian liturgy.  It starts with a hymn sung at the beginning of the great entrance and ends with a hymn sung when the gifts are consecrated.  Unfortunately, the camera is mostly on the choir, rather than the altar.  However, at about 4:40, you see the part where the priest lifts the nushkhar and says, "Take, eat, this is My Body..." and raises the cup and says, "Drink this, all of you.  This is My Blood..."  At the very end, you can kind of see the priest blessing the gifts, as the deacon censes them.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 17, 2009, 02:42:11 PM
A discussion about deacons in the Armenian Church was split off and put here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,19286.html#lastPost
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 18, 2009, 01:18:13 AM
The Gospel reading of Jn 2:1-8 in Coptic chant is available for download on my website here (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 24, 2009, 02:50:26 AM
This video has some of the Sunrise Service (Arevakal) prayers, which were discussed in replies 206-209, above.  I'm pretty sure this comes from the "Arevagal in Geghart" CD I mentioned in reply 206:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSL-fwC5Oqs

The four prayers which are being sung are translated into English in our OO prayer thread, reply 2:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13200.msg183101.html#msg183101

You hear each prayer starting with the word "Looys" being sung.  "Looys" means "light."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 09, 2009, 02:31:55 PM
Again, from the "Arevagal in Geghart" CD I mentioned in reply 206, some more of the Sunrise Service prayers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIxdjpBvM8U&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1tWsPERd2E&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F_cQHo2VcI&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaLMko0Gi8Y&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvKF-O2y-Qo&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYGr9KPo24Y&feature=channel_page


These are posted in the order that they are sung during the service, except that the "Looys" hymns I posted just above a couple of weeks ago should be inserted fifth in order.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 10, 2009, 10:37:39 PM
I'm not sure where this hymn is from.  It's not in the Arevakal service.  If my Classical Armenian is correct, it means, "Open to us, Lord, the door of Your mercy, so we may cry to you with lamenting."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9C59SqdMRU&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Yeznik on February 16, 2009, 04:19:50 PM
I'm not sure where this hymn is from.  It's not in the Arevakal service.  If my Classical Armenian is correct, it means, "Open to us, Lord, the door of Your mercy, so we may cry to you with lamenting."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9C59SqdMRU&feature=channel_page

This is a part of the Lenten service, I think its done on Palm Sunday. This hymn is sung by the priest, who kneels before the alter when the curtain is closed and uses a hammer striking a piece of wood, symbolizing knocking on a door, while singing Batz Mez Der.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 16, 2009, 05:04:02 PM
So that's where it's from!  I love that service.  It is always so nice to look upon the altar again after so many weeks of the curtain being closed.  Thanks for the info.   :)

This Palm Sunday service is mentioned in reply #1 of the following thread about OO Churches and Lent:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11249.msg152436.html#msg152436
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 19, 2009, 03:20:30 AM
The Nicene Creed, chanted in Classical Armenian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou1tln1Kb0s&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on February 19, 2009, 11:38:58 AM
The chant used in this Indian Orthodox liturgy is lovely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PERH9s_7nn4&feature=channel


This video is indeed lovely... I also like part 1. 
In fact, I like the chant in part 1 so much that several months ago I decided to use a short part of the chant on my website homepage.  :)
(http://www.orthodoxmysteries.com (http://www.orthodoxmysteries.com))

Here is the part of the video I used:
Mar Beshanania Orthodox Church Vanchithra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uzn7ytOvP4&feature=channel_page#t=6m14s)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 27, 2009, 10:58:03 PM
This is a litany, sung during the Armenian liturgy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmWf5p5Ry6U&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on March 05, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
I have uploaded some hymns used by the Malankara Syriac Orthodox (Jacboite and Indian Orthodox) Church during the Great Lent. In the Syriac tradition, on each Sunday of the Lent, we commemorate different miracles by our Lord. These hymns are for the most part desribing various miracles. I have made an attempt to give a rough English translation of the hymns in the info section of Youtube.

Hymn from the Third Sunday of Lent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQYsmTvHyY

Hymns from the Fifth Sunday of Lent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86VYfeG5ISc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVhV0diWxg

In Christ,
Mathew G M
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 07, 2009, 12:14:34 AM
From another thread:

Yes, you reminded me of the vowels:

There is a particular hymn sung in Lent right after the reading of the Synexarium (Saints of the Day), called "Megalo" or "The Ever-Greatest."  The hymn's first verse (which I think is pure Greek) is the longest part of the hymn, and it goes like this:

"Meghalo arshe-erevs yestos e-onas ak-ranton agios o Theos, agios Yes-sheros, agios athana-tos, o estavro-tees de-emas, e-leyson e-mas."

"The ever-greatest pure highpriest forever is the holy God, holy Mighty, holy Immortal, who was crucified for us, have mercy upon us."

from http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Hymns%2FFasts%2FGreat_Lent%2FCantor_Gad_Lewis%2FMeghalo%2FMeghalo_Lesson_1.116.mp3 (this is also lesson one of the hymn, if you like to learn it)

Here's a full recording from Arch-Psalter Ibrahim Ayad, the Psalter at St. Mark's Cathedral in Cairo (Papal residence).  This is Megalo plus the Trisagion:

http://www.umich.edu/%7Eawadd/hymnsmtg/hymns/08lent/m.ibrahim/M.Ibrahim_Ayad_Meghalo_%28Live%29.mp3

God bless.

PS  This is just one of a plethora of "vowelated" (for lack of a better word) hymns that the Coptic Church has; these are usually hardest to learn.

Ah, yes, and an analysis of the hymn Megalo if you like.  By the way, the hymn has three verses before it goes into Apenchois.  So this is only a third of the very looooong hymn.  It's why in churches today, we only sing the first verse, but meditations on the second and third is encouraged while the deacon is singing it.

http://www.copticheritage.org/PagEd+index-page_id-755.phtml

God bless.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 07, 2009, 01:01:31 AM
and notes:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~awadd/hymnsmtg/notes/08lent/Meghalo.jpg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 09, 2009, 10:46:40 PM
The quality of the recording is not that great, but it's part of an Armenian requiem.  You also kind of get to see what the bema in an Armenian Church looks like during Lent, with the curtain closed over the altar, and an icon of the Crucifixion set up in front of the curtain.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJ1_AUZBUQ

For more information on the Armenian custom of covering the altar during Lent, see reply 1 of the following thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11249.msg152436.html#msg152436
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 07, 2009, 03:10:44 AM
Holy Week hymns from the Coptic Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnq6fPbbyWE
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on April 08, 2009, 12:37:37 AM
The 'long' Kyrie Eleison said during Palm Sunday (as well as on Good Friday): click here. (http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Hymns%2FMajor_Feasts_of_the_Lord%2FPalm_Sunday%2FWagdi_Bishara%2FRaising_of_Incense%2F17-Amen_Kiryelyson_Long_Vespers_Wagdi_Bishara.mp3)



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on April 08, 2009, 05:46:46 AM
The Twelfth Hour Gospel reading of Good Friday chanted in english:
http://stpeterandstpaul.org/index.php?page=download&op=getFile&title=16+Gospel

Notice that the first half of the Gospel reading is chanted in the mournful tune. When the reader reaches the part of the Gospel where the Jews quote Christ saying "I will rise again" the reader switches suddenly to the joyful tune.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 09, 2009, 12:23:23 AM
A Syriac hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wN65laS6uA&feature=channel_page

If anyone knows anything about this hymn, information would be appreciated.  It is really beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on April 09, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
An english recording of the 12th Hour Good Friday reading from the Lamentations of Jeremiah: click here. (http://stpeterandstpaul.org/index.php?page=download&op=getFile&title=15+Lamentation+English)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on April 09, 2009, 07:17:54 PM
An english recording of the 12th Hour Good Friday reading from the Lamentations of Jeremiah: click here. (http://stpeterandstpaul.org/index.php?page=download&op=getFile&title=15+Lamentation+English)

Wonderful! Thank you
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 18, 2009, 07:22:54 PM
I was there last night at St. Ephraim Cathedral.  This hymn which was recorded in this video was quite beautiful.  They had a power point display on the wall showing the words in Syriac and translated into English.  It is a prayer about the Holy Cross and it was wonderful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VvOTsXRyk
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on April 18, 2009, 09:18:39 PM
Khristos Anesti

Last year I prepared a small video presentation on an Armenian Orthodox Resurrection hymn on my website. I also made available for download the complete audio file as well as an english translation of the text:

http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48:nortsaghik&catid=27:smnuhymnody&Itemid=22
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on April 18, 2009, 09:41:58 PM
Khristos Anesti

The video presentation introducing the below article begins with an english rendition of a segment of an Armenian Orthodox Resurrection hymn and concludes with a segment of a Coptic Resurrection hymn. Both segments pertain to the subject of the article viz., the joy of the Angels on account of the Resurrection. Throughout the article there are snippets of other OO Resurrection hymns that can be streamed. Download links for many of the sound clips are provided at the end of the article:

http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53:christisrisenarticle&catid=39:smnudoctrineother&Itemid=14
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 22, 2009, 08:08:05 PM
Some joyful singing by children on Palm Sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymf_FdKaQtU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliuKNnefOM&feature=channel_page


This reminds me of the children of the first Palm Sunday:


15 But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they were indignant.

 16"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him.
      "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read,
   " 'From the lips of children and infants
      you have ordained praise'[a]?"

(Matthew 21)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 28, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
This is the hymn that is sung during the kiss of peace in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvqGByujCls

Krisdos ee mech mer haydnetzav, Vor enn Asdvadz asd pazmehtzav. Khaghaghootyan tsayn hunchetzav, Soorp voghchooyni hraman duvav, Yegeghetzis mi antzn yeghev, Hampooyrus hot lurman duvav, Tushnamootyunun heratsav, Sern huntanoorus supretsav. Art bashdonyaik partzyal uztsayn, Dook zorhnootyun ee mi peran. Miasnagan Asdvadzootyan, Voroom srovpekn yen surpapan.

Translation:

Christ is in our midst hath been revealed. He who is God is here seated. The voice of peace hath resounded. Holy greeting hath been enjoined. Here the Church is become one soul. This kiss is given for a bond of fullness. The enmity hath been removed. And love is spread over us all. Now ministers, raising your voice, give ye blessings with one accord to the consubstantial Godhead, to whom Seraphim give praises.

http://www.cilicia.com/armo_badarak27.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 01, 2009, 12:33:59 AM
Hymn sung before Communion in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQb_1-313w&feature=channel_page


 ORHNYAL EH ASDVADZ, Krisdos badarakyal, pashkhi ee michi meroom, Aleluia. zMarmin yoor da mez geragoor, yev soorp zaryoon yoor tzogheh ee mez, Alelluya. Madik ar Der yev arek uzlooys, Alelluyah. Jashagetzek yev desek zi kaghtzr eh Der, Alelluya, (Orhnetzek uzDer hergins, Alelluya, Orhnetzek uzna ee partsoons, Alelluya) Orhnehtzek uzna, amenayn hreshdagk nora, Alleluya, Orhnetzek uzna amenayn zorootyunk norah, Alelluya.

Translation:

Blessed is the Lord, Christ is sacrificed and shared among us, Alleluia. His body He gives us for food and he bedews us with His Holy Blood, Alleluia. Draw near to the Lord and take ye the light, Alleluia. O taste ye and see how sweet is the Lord, Alleluia. (Praise the Lord in the heavens, Alleluia. Praise Him in the heights, Alleluia). Praise ye Him, all His angels, Alleluia. Praise ye Him, all ye His hosts, Alleluia.

http://www.cilicia.com/armo_badarak37.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 02, 2009, 08:05:58 PM
A Coptic Resurrection hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlSYIxS7gI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 04, 2009, 01:23:37 AM
A lovely mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GPI1PmAJTo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on May 04, 2009, 05:46:44 PM
With the recent launch of 'St George the Prince of Martyrs' on The Online Treasury of the Divine Riches of the OO Church (http://www.erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92:stgeorge&catid=47:smnuindexoffathers&Itemid=17), 3 new audio files with accompanying lyrics have been made available for download (click here to be directed to the relevant page) (http://www.erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1#stgeorgeaudio):

1. 'Treading the Road of Affliction' by Vivian El-Sudany; a Coptic Orthodox 'mediha' to the Great Martyr.
(Multimedia presentation based on this audio track can be viewed on the website, or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zHonBOqGRU)

2. Annual Coptic Doxology to St George by cantor Mark Tadros chanted in both English and Coptic.

3. Coptic ode to St George by cantor Mark Tadros chanted in English.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Thomas Daniel (Reji) on May 07, 2009, 04:13:01 PM
Visit following Internet Radio and TV of Malankara Jacobite Syrian Christian Church.
Most of the programs are in native language of Malayalam


shubho - Radio Malankara - http://radiomalankara.com/

teshbuhto - Malankara Vision - http://malankaravision.com/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 11, 2009, 01:15:30 AM
Coptic hymn to the Mother of God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA4ifqxxZU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 18, 2009, 07:49:47 PM
Coptic hymn to the Mother of God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA4ifqxxZU


One of my favorites, although I wish most of our churches sing this in a higher tone than presented, but understandably, some voices can't handle high tones.

I want to record one from a church in Jersey City where I grew up as part of the choir of Epsaltos, who kept a high tone on most of their hymns.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on May 19, 2009, 02:29:07 AM
One of my favourite Coptic melodies: the Trisagion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTKF2CzNLA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on May 19, 2009, 03:33:41 AM
The Coptic chanting seems so sssssllllllllloooooooowwwwww!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 19, 2009, 08:43:18 PM
The Coptic chanting seems so sssssllllllllloooooooowwwwww!

That's their style.  It's quite ancient.   :)

This may be an example of a "vowelated" hymn that Mina mentioned in reply 241, above.  Either he or EA can confirm whether that is the case.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on May 19, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.

I here post a link to the Institution of the Eucharist segment of the Coptic Basillian Liturgy because it's performed by one of my favourite bishops, H.G. Bishop Youssef:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3us3wPPpts



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 19, 2009, 09:32:48 PM
It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.

I here post a link to the Institution of the Eucharist segment of the Coptic Basillian Liturgy because it's performed by one of my favourite bishops, H.G. Bishop Youssef:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3us3wPPpts


Is it just me or is the audio a bit off from the video?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on May 19, 2009, 09:39:52 PM
The Coptic chanting seems so sssssllllllllloooooooowwwwww!

That's their style.  It's quite ancient.   :)

This may be an example of a "vowelated" hymn that Mina mentioned in reply 241, above.  Either he or EA can confirm whether that is the case.


It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.


Sssooooooocccooooooolll!   8)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: stashko on May 19, 2009, 09:50:18 PM
One of my favourite Coptic melodies: the Trisagion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTKF2CzNLA


Beautiful ...i just don't care for those western ugh  images ,i dislike them with a passion.....i prefer the traditional icons EO and OO ...And especially, i don't care for the divine mercy image.....That Revelation to a polish nun to honor and to celebrate the first Sunday after pascha resurrection Sunday as  a greater mercy to mankind than The resurrection itself like The Lords Passion crucifiction death and resurrection wasn't good enough...That alone makes me question the authenticity  of that apparition that claims to be Jesus....

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on May 19, 2009, 10:16:01 PM
I wouldn't read anything into the visual displays.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 23, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
Another beautiful Ethiopian mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii6JXWmKJG8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 07, 2009, 01:44:11 AM
Thought i'd make mention here of the recent updates to www.erkohet.com relevant to this thread:

The first stanza + chorus of a Coptic Pentecost hymn, Asomen To Kyrio, chanted in Greek, followed by Coptic, followed by English, is available for download here (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1#Asomen).

An explanation of and contemplation on the prolonged vowel intonations unique to Coptic chant is provided here (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100:copticmelismata&catid=27:smnuhymnody&Itemid=22).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 15, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Awesome Coptic hymn, Ti met esnouti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsyqKTOhm8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: IPC on June 16, 2009, 12:20:44 AM
I didn't know ethiopians did zagrouta.

Do other non african orientals do zagrouta? I know georgians and armenians don't.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 16, 2009, 12:45:19 AM
I'm afraid I don't know what zagrouta is.  Could you explain?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: IPC on June 16, 2009, 01:12:22 AM
Dear Salpy,

Zagrouta is the sound women do to celebrate, like a very fast rololololololololiiiiiiiii, like the one you can hear in the ethiopian song posted in here.

Zagrouta is common in middle east, northern africa, and other african regions.

I'm so glad you didn't hear me trying to do the zagrouta, I can't, and it's very unbefitting for a man to do that.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 16, 2009, 01:14:46 AM
Oh, I know what you are talking about now.   :)  Thanks.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on June 16, 2009, 08:26:36 AM
I didn't know ethiopians did zagrouta.

Do other non african orientals do zagrouta? I know georgians and armenians don't.



If I correctly understood what zagrouta is, then I have heard something like that in the Coptic church. It was a consecration of some girls as 'sisters' in a Coptic monastery (not yet nuns). I was unprepared and suddenly I hear that zagroutta, like some voice of strong alarm. I became very confused and frightened, I thought, 'What happened, what happened?'  :D. Then they explained to me that it was a way to express their joy and congratulate the sisters.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on June 16, 2009, 08:51:39 AM
Awesome Coptic hymn, Ti met esnouti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsyqKTOhm8


Dear Salpy. Are you an Armenian from Istanbul? Sorry for this silly question  :). Because I was unable to listen to that hymn; it was like my ears were sawed.  I have listened to much better performances of Coptic hymns. The Armenians in Armenia are not able to listen to such songs. I have some mp3 files, better performances of Coptic hymns, kindly sent to me by a Coptic brother, I like most of them, but even they were rejected by our listeners, when I asked that they might be broadcast through some Christian radio here, in Armenia :(. Even the very small vibration that exists in the singing of the Turkish Armenians or Greeks is not 'understood' here. They think it's a Muslim style and that it is acceptable only in folk music but not church hymns. So usually only the performances of Armenian and Russian choirs are broadcast here (I mean the church songs, performed by them).

Some Coptic hymns have really wonderful melodies, there are some nice Coptic Alleluias that I have listened to, but when they are performed in the Coptic style, those beautiful melodies just lose their beauty in the unprepared ears of foreigners, because not every ear is, or can be, accustomed to it.

Well, our brother EA knows that there is some theology hidden behind it :). However, it's not for all ears. Pity for those beautiful melodies to not reach to many ears because of that unique style. :( Because I wished that much more people knew Coptic hymns.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 16, 2009, 11:36:55 AM
I was born and raised in Los Angeles, which means I grew up hearing a little bit of everything. 

We have deacons from Istanbul at our church.  They are very knowledgeable about the old ways of doing the chants, at least from a Western Armenian standpoint.  I know in Armenia and Iran it is probably different.  I know what you mean about the Middle Eastern sound of the way the Istanbul Armenians do it.  However, I have been told that such a way of singing is really originally Christian, and that the Arabs and Turks borrowed from us.

I know the sound of the Coptic chanting is very different from what we are used to in our Church, but I really like it.  It's very ancient, and I find it deeply spiritual.  Last Saturday, I was at a Coptic Monastery which is about two hours outside of Los Angeles, and I bought a CD of Coptic hymns.  I've been listening to it in my car, and I really love it.

Regarding the zaghrouta, I've heard it at a Coptic baptism.  It's a sound made to express happiness.

The only time I've heard Armenians do it was at a party I went to some years ago, that was thrown by some Armenians I knew from Beirout.  A lot of people were drunk and we were dancing the shoorch bar and all of a sudden everyone around me was making that sound.  It wasn't a religious context, of course.  People were just drunk.   :)


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on June 16, 2009, 11:53:51 AM
Yes, I understand you. The Armenians may be different, I mean, they may have different tastes in music etc. I love the church songs of Syrians. They are so like the Armenian folk songs. Sometimes I want to cry when I listen to those Syriac simple songs.

I discovered that their songs are very like our folk songs while being in Egypt. I was there for a long time, among the Coptic Christians and far from the Armenians. One day a Syriac priest with some other servants and singers came to us and offered a Liturgy in a Coptic church, but, of course, according to the Syriac rite. I wasn't impressed by the Liturgy. But when it was over and almost everyone had left the church, those Syrian singers, they were 2 or 3 ladies, started to sing some songs in Syriac. I can't explain what happened to me at that time. Those songs were so like our folk songs and I had so much missed my country and people that I started to cry like a child. The tears fell down from my eyes like rain. It was as if some wind from Armenian mountains came to me through that singing.

Now I have some mp3 files- Syriac songs. And one of them has completely the same melody as one of our national songs!!!  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: IPC on June 16, 2009, 10:10:14 PM
Awww vasnTearn! I can imagine how you felt. ehehehhehe

First time I heard a Georgian Oriental Orthodox service, I got very scared, I wasn't expecting such a loud service. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEtNpuohLs&NR=1






Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 16, 2009, 10:51:57 PM
That was beautiful.

The Georgians, by the way are no longer Oriental Orthodox.  They accepted Chalcedon in the early 600's. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on June 17, 2009, 04:26:36 AM
Awww vasnTearn! I can imagine how you felt. ehehehhehe

First time I heard a Georgian Oriental Orthodox service, I got very scared, I wasn't expecting such a loud service. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtEtNpuohLs&NR=1


Well, I don't know how you imagined that :). Because the Georgian singing was very nice and I liked it. If it is very loud, you can make the volume of the sound lower, that's very simple  ;). Besides, as Salpy already mentioned, they are not Oriental, but Eastern Orthodox.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: IPC on June 17, 2009, 11:09:32 PM
Salpy a large group of georgians, but not all, there is still the Georgian Oriental Orthodox Church (non chalcedonian).

vasnTearn It's impossible to moderate the volume in a real life church service.

I like georgian style chants, as a matter of fact, I can chant like that very well, but as a child, you get scared with loud sounds.

This is a family story that I've heard over, and over again, actually I remember vaguely that I got scared, but my mother is the one who tells me the whole story in detail. She took me to the wedding of her georgian friends when I was 3 years old and.......

Some relatives jokingly tell me "ohhhh so that's why you're so good at it, it scared you so much, that you do it over and over again, so it doesn't scare you ever again".












Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 18, 2009, 10:34:45 PM
A tangent on the Oriental Orthodox in Georgia and the Georgian Church was split off and put here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,21895.0.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 23, 2009, 03:25:34 AM
I think I've posted this hymn before (post 143) but this version of it is so lovely I just had to link it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaqHaA-PlO4&feature=channel

I think it is the Coptic hymn for Good Friday.

The guy who made the video seems to have made videos for many different Orthodox traditions.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 24, 2009, 11:57:02 PM
Some lovely singing in a Coptic church in Zambia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or-vTilWBWM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on June 25, 2009, 07:30:39 AM
The Armenian Liturgy (arranged by Komitas Vardapet), sung by the choir Hover.

http://www.araratian-tem.am/liturgy.php?id=11&lang=E


The Liturgy starts from the hymn 'O Mystery deep' which they have put as the first track of the second part section, strangely. Then follow that track.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 25, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
The Armenian Liturgy (arranged by Komitas Vardapet), sung by the choir Hover.

http://www.araratian-tem.am/liturgy.php?id=11&lang=E


The Liturgy starts from the hymn 'O Mystery deep' which they have put as the first track of the second part section, strangely. Then follow that track.


That's an amazing website.  I had never seen it before.  Thank you.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 04, 2009, 05:29:57 PM
Indian Orthodox prayers in Dallas Texas, during the visit of their new metropolitan there, H.G. Alexios Mar Eusebius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEI26WFOmc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2Fmalankaraorthodox71&feature=player_profilepage
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 05, 2009, 03:30:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIad6wy-SOY

^Just....wow...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 06, 2009, 11:38:07 AM
^ That is the sort of "Istanbul" way of singing that vasnTearn referred to in post 278.

It's very ancient and I really love it.  I heard it as a kid and I have memories of my grandpa singing his prayers that way.  To me it's deeply spiritual. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 07, 2009, 05:45:08 AM
^ That is the sort of "Istanbul" way of singing that vasnTearn referred to in post 278.


 ;D You are right, Salpy. The man there sings very heartily. That's a great plus and I really appreciate such singing. But if he made less Turkish 'movements' with his voice, or 'moved' it in an Armenian way, as, say, Komitas Vardapet would do, it would be even better.

Some people don't distinguish between those vibration-styles, while they can be Turkish, Arabic, Coptic, Armenian, Romanian, Spanish etc etc. The Armenian natural singing is also not European and I don't like when our songs are performed in thoroughly European style or accent. To my ears, some priests in our churches sing even better than many professional singers.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 11:48:21 AM
But if he made less Turkish 'movements' with his voice, or 'moved' it in an Armenian way, as, say, Komitas Vardapet would do, it would be even better.

I know the deacons at my church would argue with you over whether this style was really Turkish or Armenian.   ;D  They would argue that it is really an ancient Armenian style of singing and that the Turks copied it.  I wonder if someone has done a study on it.

Komitas Vardapet is awesome.  I think I read somewhere that he was basing his arrangements on a style of liturgical singing that came from the Armenian community in Iran.  Do you know what I am talking about, or am I totally confused about this?  Of course I can't recall where I read this and I could be remembering it wrong.  Do you know what his influences were? 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 07, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
But if he made less Turkish 'movements' with his voice, or 'moved' it in an Armenian way, as, say, Komitas Vardapet would do, it would be even better.

I know the deacons at my church would argue with you over whether this style was really Turkish or Armenian.   ;D  They would argue that it is really an ancient Armenian style of singing and that the Turks copied it.  I wonder if someone has done a study on it.


Dear Salpy
One of the main concerns of Komitas Vardapet was just that the Armenians in many places sang in Turkish or Kurdish styles and he always showed his disrespect towards it. And, of course, he did studies on this subject.

I know that some people, as the deacons of your church do, would argue over this style, whether it's Turkish, or the Turks have borrowed it from us. But I prefer to believe such specialists in Armenian music, as Komitas. When one listens to his own singing, one sees how his style is different from the style of, say, that performance of 'Amen hayr surp'. Komitas would never sing like that. I have some pm3 files of his performances of folk songs, recorded perhaps in 1915. The quality is not good, of course, but one is able to understand what and how is sung. I can send them to you, if you don't have them.

This refers not only to the church singing, but also folk songs, generally to all kinds of Armenian music. Have you listened to Hayrik Muradyan's performances of both folk and other kinds of Armenian songs? His singing is really Armenian. I like him so much. Neither Turkish or Kurdish, nor artificial European-opera kind performance. I mention the folk songs, because one expects to hear that Turkish style more in them than in church songs. But if even the folk songs can be performed in non-Turkish way, then how much more the sacred music.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on July 07, 2009, 01:36:18 PM
But if he made less Turkish 'movements' with his voice, or 'moved' it in an Armenian way, as, say, Komitas Vardapet would do, it would be even better.

I know the deacons at my church would argue with you over whether this style was really Turkish or Armenian.   ;D  

The first half quite reminiscent of some Byzantine hymnography.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
artificial European-opera kind performance.

I know what you are talking about.  I've heard choirs, as well as individual performers, do this to our liturgical music.  It is absolutely awful.

With regard to the Istanbul style, I guess you and the BoghsaHye deacons will just have to agree to disagree.   :)  You are right that Komitas didn't use that style.  However, our deacons and other like them must have their reasons for using it preserving it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 02:07:50 PM
But if he made less Turkish 'movements' with his voice, or 'moved' it in an Armenian way, as, say, Komitas Vardapet would do, it would be even better.

I know the deacons at my church would argue with you over whether this style was really Turkish or Armenian.   ;D  

The first half quite reminiscent of some Byzantine hymnography.

Really?  I actually know very little about EO liturgical music.  I've mostly been exposed to it through the OCA, and I know that would be different from what the Greeks use.  I'm curious as to how the Greek liturgical music would compare to the style in that particular Armenian hymn posted by EA.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on July 07, 2009, 02:19:03 PM
Really?  I actually know very little about EO liturgical music.  I've mostly been exposed to it through the OCA, and I know that would be different from what the Greeks use.  I'm curious as to how the Greek liturgical music would compare to the style in that particular Armenian hymn posted by EA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AptfaqIHz2c

I suppose you might want to move this since the thread is about OO music.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 02:21:25 PM
I won't move it.  It's too beautiful.   :)

Also, it does resemble the kind of chant the deacons at my church do.  Something that I notice especially is the way the others are doing a kind of humming to accompany the chanting.  The deacons at our church will sometimes do that.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on July 07, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
Something that I notice especially is the way the others are doing a kind of humming to accompany the chanting.  The deacons at our church will sometimes do that.

That's a feature of all Byzantine music. It is called the "ison", a word you have probably encountered elsewhere on oc.net. In the Armenian Church, is this a feature of the "Istanbul" way of singing you described earlier? If yes, perhaps it is an EO influence rather than a Turkish one?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
Something that I notice especially is the way the others are doing a kind of humming to accompany the chanting.  The deacons at our church will sometimes do that.

That's a feature of all Byzantine music. It is called the "ison", a word you have probably encountered elsewhere on oc.net.

I've seen that word used here and I never connected it to what the deacons at my church do.  There's probably an Armenian word for it, but I wouldn't know it.

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In the Armenian Church, is this a feature of the "Istanbul" way of singing you described earlier?


All I know is that it is done that way at my church.  You hear it mostly during matins, etc. when there is no organ playing.  I don't know how universal it is among the Armenians.  Perhaps vasnTearn can tell us if she hears it in Armenia.

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If yes, perhaps it is an EO influence rather than a Turkish one?

I'm afraid the deacons at my church would probably insist that it is an Armenian thing, and that the EO's copied us.    :D ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 07, 2009, 05:14:12 PM
Given the close historical ties between the Armenian and Syrian Orthodox Churches, perhaps the adoption by the former of the style of chant in question is the result of the latter's influence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjDJAkHnPQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIU-0VOwRow

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 07, 2009, 05:22:49 PM
I would say the Greek style linked by Orthodox11 sounds a little closer to what I hear at my church.  Still, I am sure that given the historical ties, there is an influence going back and forth between the Armenians and Syriac Christians as well.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on July 07, 2009, 05:35:21 PM
Given the close historical ties between the Armenian and Syrian Orthodox Churches, perhaps the adoption by the former of the style of chant in question is the result of the latter's influence?

I've heard a lot of Armenian chant that sounds very Syrian. But the particular hymn you linked to sounded more Byzantine than Syrian, and if it's a style unique to Armenians in Constantinople that seems just as plausable.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 08, 2009, 09:03:49 AM
You are right that Komitas didn't use that style.  However, our deacons and other like them must have their reasons for using it preserving it.

Of course, and their reason is being from Istanbul or, through parents, bearing the Istanbul culture. It's in their heart, mind, thinking, in their tastes. If they were from Armenia, they would be bearers of another cultural influence. But let's not forget that Istanbul wasn't and isn't Armenia, it's not the land of our fathers, we were arrivals there, as the Turks themselves. A human being as a cultural being is a product of the cultural environment in which he or she lives. And in that environment all the traditions influence each other. If somewhere the Turks, Greeks and Armenians lived in great numbers together, it is almost an inevitable reality that they influenced each other. That's natural. But it is very difficult to correctly determine what was borrowed from whom. I would not believe that only the Turks borrowed from Byzantians and the latter themselves were not influenced by the Turkic culture, and vice-versa. The same concerns the Armenians living among them. However, when determining what is more Armenian (I say more, but not thouroghly), it is better to find it in Armenia, in the historical homeland of Armenians where they lived for thousands of years, and not outside of Armenia, in the territories of others.

Just compare the architecture of the Armenian churches of Istanbul with that of Armenia. The Armenian churches of Istanbul are not Armenian in their appearance, it's so clear even from the first glance. They are more of Byzantine style. If I'm not mistaken, only one and the oldest Armenian church of Istanbul was built in the Armenian style.

Also, take the factor of the language. Already in the 19th century many Armenians outside historical Armenia, in other places of Anatolia, spoke Turkish. The same is unfortunately true about the Armenians of Istanbul of today. Most of them today speak to each other in Turkish, not Armenian. They know very little Armenian. I don't mean all of them, of course, but the majority. And since the language is also a way of thinking, those who speak Turkish or hear mostly the Turkish language everywhere, have a way of thinking different from the thinking of those who always speak and hear everywhere Armenian. And this can't but influence on their musical thinking too.

As for those Syriac songs, they are not like the Armenian church songs but the Armenian folk songs of mainly Sasun, Mush and surrounding regions, and they are like the Kurdish songs too. Again the same phenomenon. Where the Kurds, Armenians and Syrians lived together, they produced songs with similar melodies or sang in similar way. Now the Armenians of Armenia sing those same or similar melodies in some other, more 'polished' style. Because now they don't live among Kurdish majority. However, in the past, even the generation of my grandparents, would sing those Armenian songs like the Kurds. I remember my grandpa who sang in that manner, and his parents and all the inhabitants of our village were refugees of 1915 from Western Armenia, from a region near Sasun where they lived among Kurdish majority.

The Armenians of Russia and those who live in Armenia but are Russianized, preferring speaking Russian instead of their own tongue, will have some other thinking and tastes, of course also in music. So they will perform the Armenian church songs in some artificial 'Western', opera style, and pronouncing the Armenian words in some Russian accent. We can still see this in Armenia, unfortunately. These are mostly some professional musicians with Russian education.

I'm still in search of the pure Armenian style in singing the church songs. When I find it, I'll share my happiness with you, Salpy  :D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 08, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
However, when determining what is more Armenian (I say more, but not thouroghly), it is better to find it in Armenia, in the historical homeland of Armenians where they lived for thousands of years, and not outside of Armenia, in the territories of others.

That includes Western Armenia (now Eastern Turkey) from where your grandparents and mine came.  What is today the Republic of Armenia is not the only historical homeland of the Armenians.

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Also, take the factor of the language. Already in the 19th century many Armenians outside historical Armenia, in other places of Anatolia, spoke Turkish. The same is unfortunately true about the Armenians of Istanbul of today. Most of them today speak to each other in Turkish, not Armenian. They know very little Armenian. I don't mean all of them, of course, but the majority. And since the language is also a way of thinking, those who speak Turkish or hear mostly the Turkish language everywhere, have a way of thinking different from the thinking of those who always speak and hear everywhere Armenian. And this can't but influence on their musical thinking too.

Actually, there is a large Istanbul Armenian population in my church, and they all speak both Armenian and Turkish.  Some of them read and write Turkish better than Armenian, but they all speak Armenian, and many also read and write it.  In the Los Angeles community, the Armenians from Istanbul are looked upon as being among the most knowledgeable with regard to our liturgical traditions, including chant.  Our archbishop last year recognized them for this at an event to honor their contributions to our community.

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As for those Syriac songs, they are not like the Armenian church songs but the Armenian folk songs of mainly Sasun, Mush and surrounding regions, and they are like the Kurdish songs too. Again the same phenomenon. Where the Kurds, Armenians and Syrians lived together, they produced songs with similar melodies or sang in similar way. Now the Armenians of Armenia sing those same or similar melodies in some other, more 'polished' style. Because now they don't live among Kurdish majority. However, in the past, even the generation of my grandparents, would sing those Armenian songs like the Kurds. I remember my grandpa who sang in that manner, and his parents and all the inhabitants of our village were refugees of 1915 from Western Armenia, from a region near Sasun where they lived among Kurdish majority.

You do your grandpa--and mine--a disservice by assuming that their Western Armenian musical traditions were really Kurdish (or Turkish.)  The Western Armenians had a very ancient presence in what is today Eastern Turkey, more ancient than that of the Kurds or Turks.  It is true that the Western Armenians had close contact with the Kurds and Turks for many centuries, but why assume that when there were similarities between their cultures, that it was the Armenians who did all the borrowing and the Turks and Kurds who had the original native culture? 

The fact that there are differences between Western and Eastern Armenian styles does not mean that the Western styles are not authentically Armenian.  Variations between subcultures that develop within an ethnic group are natural.  The Western and Eastern Armenians were separated enough from each other politically (Western under the Turks, Eastern under the Persians) that different dialects developed between the two.  It stands to reason that other differences would also develop, including differences in musical styles, dance, food, etc.  The difference need not mean that one way is more Armenian than another.   

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I'm still in search of the pure Armenian style in singing the church songs. When I find it, I'll share my happiness with you, Salpy  :D


I'm not sure that a pure style exists in any kind of music.   :)  No ethnic group on this planet develops its musical style entirely in a vacuum.  Everyone is somehow influenced by their neighbors.  However, when a group takes that influence and blends it with what they have, and makes it their own, it then becomes their own music.  I'm sure that happened with the Western Armenians and their Kurdish, Turkish and Syrian neighbors.  It probably happened with the Istanbul Armenians and their Greek neighbors.  I would be astounded if the Eastern Armenians were not somehow influenced by their Persian neighbors.  Komitas himself composed his music in a polyphonic style, and I know that polyphonic composing is not natively Armenian, but borrowed from another tradition.  Yet all of this produced music that is authentically Armenian.  At least that is how I see it.   :)  I know you disagree and I get the feeling you are more educated in these matters than I am.  We will just have to agree to disagree.   
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 09, 2009, 07:25:52 AM
Hmmmm... Dear Salpy, you got me wrong at some points. Perhaps, the reason is my poor English by which I express my thoughts. Especially where you say that Armenia is not only the Republic of Armenia etc. Pls note, I was speaking only about one region of Western Armenia and not all the regions which had their different dialects and culture, including the musical culture, of course. And I never excluded Western Armenia as being our homeland. However, unfortunately, we can't check now how in all different regions people sang, I mean the style of their singing. We have their songs recorded on sheets of paper but not the way of singing. I only know that the Armenians of Karin, say, would sing differently from those from Mush, those in Mush differently from those in Van, those in Van differently from those in Alashkert etc etc.

I know the Armenians of Istanbul not badly. And some deacons and clergy from Istanbul too. In fact, I have taught them Armenian for a short time, more than 10 years ago, when they studied here and I was in Istanbul twice. So I know the Armenians of Istanbul and I know both their knowledge and their love for the traditions of the Armenian Church etc, but what relation does it all have with the fact of being influenced by the environment in which they lived for a long time and the problem of the Turkish language? We're speaking about different things. Have you asked your deacons also about the Turkish musical modes? They know it perfectly. At least those deacons whom I know. The deacons from Istanbul will listen to an Armenian tagh and will say what Turkish mode it corresponds to. See how well they know also the Turkish music.

I know, many will not agree with my opinion which is not mine at all. In fact, I'm just repeating the opinion of some musicologists, who, of course, know about this subject more than me. And of course, there will be other specialists who will say something different. And it is our right to choose between these opinions, depending on our own logic and understanding of the matter. The fact is that all (not only Armenian) Christian nations that once were (or now are) conquered by the Arabs and/or the Turks (who, along with the Islam, are also carriers of the Arabic Islamic culture in some way) have that special Arabic-Turkish-Muslim (call it as you like) way of nasal and vibrating singing. Even the Spanish people who are both genetically, and linguistically the same race with the Italians and French, have so different, Eastern, Arabic-influenced, musical culture and style of singing from those of their European brothers of the same family. And the reason is the same: unlike their other Western European brothers, they were under the yoke of Arabs for many centuries and were influenced by the Arabic culture which formed that special Spanish musical culture. Anyone who has ears can determine that striking difference between the Spanish and the other Western European musical cultures. And could we say, it was the Spanish people that influenced the Arabs, not the contrary? It would be some very naive and not scientific opinion. However, this influence doesn't mean that the Spanish music is Arabic, right? It seems you understood the word 'influence' used by me as 'copying'. While I'm not speaking about this or that musical culture in its completeness but only about one aspect of it about which we started our discussion. I'm reminding here- it is that nasal, vibrating way of singing, full of glissandos etc, and not the songs or melodies themselves. 

And what is unnatural or unjust, as it seems to you, in that the Armenian singing was influenced by the Turkish or Kurdish way of singing in those regions where the Armenians lived side by side with those nations and under their domination (this is a very important aspect) for very long time? This is natural and even inevitable. But why do you think that this means that the other side wasn't also influenced by the Armenian culture? Have I written such a thing? Didn't we speak about that nasal, vibrating style of singing only? Yes, I believe, that that way of singing among Christians is a result of Muslim influence, whether it is Arabic, Turkish or Kurdish or I don't know what else, having as their source mainly the Arabic culture which through Islam penetrated into the cultures of those other Muslim nations. Pls count all the Christian nations that you know who have that style of singing in this or that way. You'll see that those are nations who were or are under Muslim yoke for many centuries. Do you think this is just some coincidence? And this includes our brother Copts too who have lost even their mother tongue because of that Muslim yoke. They may not agree, that's their right, of course, but here I also believe that that style of nasal and over-vibrating singing is the influence of Arabic culture. Otherwise, the Coptic musical culture is very unique and wonderful, really deserving of more study and recognition by others. And thanks God, there are, indeed, good performances of Coptic songs that I like. For example, I like many of the performances of Coptic songs by the David Ensemble in Cairo. I think, the link to their web site was placed somewhere in this thread. 

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I'm not sure that a pure style exists in any kind of music.   Smiley  No ethnic group on this planet develops its musical style entirely in a vacuum.  Everyone is somehow influenced by their neighbors.  However, when a group takes that influence and blends it with what they have, and makes it their own, it then becomes their own music.  I'm sure that happened with the Western Armenians and their Kurdish, Turkish and Syrian neighbors.  It probably happened with the Istanbul Armenians and their Greek neighbors.  I would be astounded if the Eastern Armenians were not somehow influenced by their Persian neighbors.  Komitas himself composed his music in a polyphonic style, and I know that polyphonic composing is not natively Armenian, but borrowed from another tradition.  Yet all of this produced music that is authentically Armenian.  At least that is how I see it.   Smiley  I know you disagree

You don't know :). I agree with these your words entirely.






Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 09, 2009, 12:54:00 PM
I'm glad much has been cleared up between us.   :)  I think our main area of disagreement has to do with which way the influence went between the Muslims and Christians dominated by them.  It doesn't surprise me that an Armenian tagh sounds similar to a Turkish mode.  My take on it though, would be that the Turks were influenced by us and the Greeks, rather than the other way around.  I know that there are many who think Eastern Christians have been influenced by the Muslims, not only in music, but in other things.  I've heard people tell me that they think the prostrations that we traditionally do (yegirbakoutiun) are Muslim.  However, it is my understanding that the Christians were doing this before the Muslims, and they got it from us. 

The fact that the Muslims were politically dominant doesn't necessarily have to mean that the influence had to flow from them to us.  Here in the US, it was the whites of European ancestry who were politically dominant for three centuries.  Yet the most uniquely American form of music, jazz, has little or no European roots.  Rather it comes from the music brought over by the blacks from their African motherland.  So you see, the influence can flow that way also.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 09, 2009, 01:44:06 PM
I think our main area of disagreement has to do with which way the influence went between the Muslims and Christians dominated by them.  It doesn't surprise me that an Armenian tagh sounds similar to a Turkish mode.  My take on it though, would be that the Turks were influenced by us and the Greeks, rather than the other way around. 

Oh Salpy jan, it is not an area of disagreement at all. Of course the Turks took from both the Hellenized Anatolians (call them Greeks, if you like) and Armenians many things, first of all their lands and even the genes, through assimilation and islamization of so many people of Anatolia and Armenia. Sadly :(.  But again :), I was speaking only about that special style of singing, shared today, in fact, by the minority of Armenians, as I can understand, mainly by those from Istanbul. Though even in Istanbul not everyone likes that style, frankly speaking. So why not, let some part of our people sing in that way, there are always people who like that manner of singing more than the other manners.  By the way, one of the CDs of the choir Akn, which uses just that Istanbul style, can be downloaded through rapidshare. Do you like me to find the link to it and put here?

Since the discussion of cultural influences between nations etc is another topic (who, on whom, how, when, in what measure influenced :)), and is not, perhaps, for this forum, I'll stop here.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 09, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
  By the way, one of the CDs of the choir Akn, which uses just that Istanbul style, can be downloaded through rapidshare. Do you like me to find the link to it and put here?

Yes, please!  That would be great!

Also, if I remember correctly, I think you mentioned the recordings that were made of Komitas himself before he died.  Is that available in a way that can be linked here?  I know it exists on CD's and I have heard it.  But is it somewhere on the internet that can be linked?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 10, 2009, 06:23:55 AM
  By the way, one of the CDs of the choir Akn, which uses just that Istanbul style, can be downloaded through rapidshare. Do you like me to find the link to it and put here?

Yes, please!  That would be great!

Also, if I remember correctly, I think you mentioned the recordings that were made of Komitas himself before he died.  Is that available in a way that can be linked here?  I know it exists on CD's and I have heard it.  But is it somewhere on the internet that can be linked?

Thank you!

http://rapidshare.com/files/107448880/_al_sur__Akn_-_Chants_liturgiques_arm_niens_.zip

For the voice of Komitas Vardapet I found two performances of folk songs, recorded in 1912 in Paris.

The first is 'Hov areq'- a very sad song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf0GtVLBB74&feature=related

(the same also here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbuc7vilzXk&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFy63islPjk&feature=related)

The second is a gutanerg- a song of the man who works in the field with an ox and talks to his ox, telling him to work well. The song starts with the words, "Blessed is God". In that song there are many strange sounds and words meaning nothing, they are words for the ox- ox vocabulary  :D. I think the ox understood that language better, that's why. I like this funny and unique gutanerg :).  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQwCIJiL3-M&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 10, 2009, 11:23:15 AM
Thank you!  You're wonderful, vasnTearn!

Shad Shnorhagal em.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on July 10, 2009, 12:01:42 PM
Dear Salpy

I hadn't noticed there were two other songs too, in addition to 'Hov arek', in that 4th link that I provided above. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFy63islPjk&NR=1

After 'Hov arek' Komitas sings 'Mokats Mirza' and 'Arorn asats tatrak havkun'- I love these songs soooooo much. Mokats Mirza is about an Armenian mirza (some kind of prince or what) from Moks who was called to 'the town of Jazira', as the song says, and didn't return, he was martyred by the Arabs, as far as I remember his story. So this song is very ancient, perhaps from the times of the Arabic dominion in Armenia. The next song is a conversation between two birds- 'aror' and turtle-dove. Is it possible to find the English translation of this last song's words? I think, it must be somewhere, I think. It's a well-known Armenian folk poem.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 10, 2009, 03:48:08 PM
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 22, 2009, 11:58:31 PM
Syrian Orthodox Chant by a Syrian Orthodox monk-priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wo00EgsT6Y
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 24, 2009, 09:11:29 PM
Ethiopian chant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdybDgU1Oe0&feature=channel_page


and a child beautifully singing a mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuAisC46GMI&feature=channel_page

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 10, 2009, 12:02:16 AM
Very nice mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxsygfiAJX4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 15, 2009, 02:06:43 AM
I know I've posted a lot of mezmurs, but this one is really different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJj3vwob3k

Maybe it is just me, but I feel it has a mysterious, almost eerie, beauty to it.  It mentions Mount Tabor.  Does someone know if it is about the Transfiguration?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 17, 2009, 12:14:51 AM
A prayer of St. Gregory of Nareg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgiAL5h_oYM&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 22, 2009, 01:25:11 AM
An Ethiopian hymn about St. Arsema ("St. Hripsime" in Armenian):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1GoKRjyjCo

More information about this is given in reply #35 in this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,15818.msg350381.html#msg350381
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 28, 2009, 01:55:30 AM
I would love it if one of our Indian Orthodox brothers could give us more information about the tradition behind the Margam Kali:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itlrnp_xVCo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on August 30, 2009, 06:51:43 PM
Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.

yup

Huh? I thought the DL of the British Orthodox was Antiochene and the Office Alexandrian?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on August 30, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet. It's a section of the anaphora of the West Syrian rite chanted in English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 31, 2009, 07:47:05 PM
I would love it if one of our Indian Orthodox brothers could give us more information about the tradition behind the Margam Kali:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itlrnp_xVCo

One of our posters, Surajiype, has kindly provided me with information about the Margam Kali, which he told me I could repeat here:


"Margam Kali is a folk dance of the Syrian Christians of Kerala, as far as I know both the Orthodox and Syrian Catholics have this tradition (since this is a pre-portuguese tradition).   Margam means the Way and refers to the Way of the Nazarene. Kali means play, in this context it refers to the dance.

The dance is done around a large brass lamp and it is usually associated with Christ.
The lyrics most commonly speak about the Apostolic ministry of St Thomas in India, the conversion of the 7 brahmin clans and the spread of the Way in Malabar. 

Such a dance has a close parallel in the Hindu tradition, on the most important harvest festival of Onam (which falls in a day or two), hindu women gather around a lamp placed in a large vessel containing harvested rice and perform a dance similar to what the Christian women do.

You can also see the traditional dress of the Syrian Christian women in the video, such dress was common till my grandmothers generation, nowdays girls just dress up once in a while like this.  Like the Ethiopians, Indians had a penchant for white and it was mandatory for men and women to wear white when going to Church in the olden days."


Thanks Suraj!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: coptickev on September 01, 2009, 02:27:52 PM
Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.

yup

Huh? I thought the DL of the British Orthodox was Antiochene and the Office Alexandrian?
The BOC uses the Liturgy of St.James.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 03, 2009, 07:07:46 PM
A Syriac hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjxpxH0RE8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on September 03, 2009, 08:37:01 PM
The BOC uses the Liturgy of St.James.

But the Coptic Hours and Morning and Evening Raising of Incense.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 05, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
Tasbeha at a Coptic monastery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dF0HGuq9pg&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCFYHsByyDs&feature=channel

I think this is the monastery in Texas.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on September 07, 2009, 08:05:12 PM
Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.

yup

Huh? I thought the DL of the British Orthodox was Antiochene and the Office Alexandrian?
The BOC uses the Liturgy of St.James.

Then why was this person assuming that the BO use the Celtic rite?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: coptickev on September 07, 2009, 08:59:22 PM
Then why was this person assuming that the BO use the Celtic rite?
Probably because the northern regions of Britain and Scotland were evangelized by Celtic Monks from Ireland in the 6th and 7th centuries. These monks had their own distinctive liturgical practices. I suppose it was thought the a British Orthodox Church would resume these customs.

There are several "Celtic Orthodox" groups in the English speaking world, but AFAIK none are affiliated with a canonical Orthodox Church.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 11, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
Celtic?  Sounds interesting.  I assume that would be the rite in which the British Orthodox celebrate.

yup

Huh? I thought the DL of the British Orthodox was Antiochene and the Office Alexandrian?

Ya, I believe I was mistaken.  I read it at a forum once.  However, there are prayers that seem to be studied right now that were unique in Celtic Christian tradition.  I hope I don't butcher the name, I think the "Stowe Missel" it's called is a Celtic liturgical tradition.  I assumed that's what the British Orthodox used, until I found out otherwise.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 15, 2009, 12:34:46 AM
I am assuming this Syriac hymn of the Cross is appropriate for the Feast of the Holy Cross:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhb56R_4aE

I'm pretty sure it is the same hymn that is posted in reply 250, above, but this version is so beautiful, I just had to put it here.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 17, 2009, 01:49:23 AM
I am assuming this Syriac hymn of the Cross is appropriate for the Feast of the Holy Cross:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhb56R_4aE

I'm pretty sure it is the same hymn that is posted in reply 250, above, but this version is so beautiful, I just had to put it here.   :)

I'm starting to learn this hymn already  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 21, 2009, 12:36:51 AM
Syriac Hail Mary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMM9ZuRkKs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 22, 2009, 09:30:38 PM
Coptic hymns sung by the faithful, at a shrine of St. George in Cairo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPRMxnqRCg4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 23, 2009, 01:52:06 AM
Coptic hymns sung by the faithful, at a shrine of St. George in Cairo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPRMxnqRCg4

It's a Coptic style doxology for St. George chanted in Arabic followed by the Coptic hymn of Axia (St. Mary, Theotokos)/Axios (St. George), and ending with "Oh Lord hear us, Oh Lord have mercy on us, Oh Lord bless us" in Arabic.

Cymbals were played as usual.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on September 23, 2009, 07:31:02 AM
Here is a very beautiful Coptic hymn sung during Kiahk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8NUv7eGEI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8NUv7eGEI)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 29, 2009, 12:15:16 AM
A Syriac hymn, chanted by a priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X75qQWr1hCY

I love recordings like this.  They are more "real" than hymns sung by professional choirs.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on September 29, 2009, 07:23:51 PM
An exclusive Erkohet recording and production of the first ever English vocal rendition of the ancient and divine Syrian Orthodox Marian Hymn, 'Shlom Lech': click here to download! (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76%3Adownloads&Itemid=1#ShlomLech)

A video display presenting a syriac version of the same hymn was made available to erkohet by its creator for use as a multimedia introduction to Fr. Peter Farrington's recent article on the Virgin St Mary in the hymns of St Severus of Antioch: click here to view (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=126:the-virgin-mary-in-the-hymns-of-st-severus-of-antioch&catid=39:smnudoctrineother&Itemid=14).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 09, 2009, 08:41:09 PM
An English rendition of "My Coptic Church":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyFwbLqVm4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Jo2444 on October 10, 2009, 08:55:32 AM
Coptic hymns sung by the faithful, at a shrine of St. George in Cairo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPRMxnqRCg4
lol, i was scared for a sec, i thought id appear in that video since i was just there recently

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I love recordings like this.  They are more "real" than hymns sung by professional choirs.
exactly!

btw theres this really nice website:
http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Hymns.html
it even has lyrics translated and all

and another great site:
http://www.coptichymns.net/modules.php?name=Coptic_Media&op=modload&file=index&p=Coptic%20Hymns
both are IMO the best sites to find coptic music

i cant stop listening to these songs (tasbeha):
http://www.coptichymns.net/modules.php?name=Coptic_Media&op=modload&file=index&p=Coptic%20Hymns/Praises%20and%20Tasbeha/Midnight%20Praises/Coptic%20Midnight%20Praise/Choir%20of%20the%20Martyr%20Abu%20Fam/Part_1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 12, 2009, 12:49:41 AM
Another hymn to the Coptic Church, "Our Glorious Church":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRQd4P49Kg

The existence of hymns such as this and the "My Coptic Church" hymn posted earlier, only confirms what I have always seen, which is that the Coptic people really do have a special love for their Church.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on October 12, 2009, 01:04:38 AM
Another hymn to the Coptic Church, "Our Glorious Church."

A very nice video.  I gleaned a few things from it. 

1. The Copts use a lot of incense during services.  I think everyone in my parish would start coughing if my priest used that much. 

2. Apparently there are pews in Near Eastern churches after all.  Who knew?

3. The congregations have nothing but throngs of women and little girls in them.  I guess the Coptic men are doing other things.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 12, 2009, 01:32:15 AM
A post about flashing lights in church was split off and made into its own topic:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,23824.0.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 12, 2009, 01:39:30 AM
Another hymn to the Coptic Church, "Our Glorious Church."

A very nice video.  I gleaned a few things from it. 

1. The Copts use a lot of incense during services.  I think everyone in my parish would start coughing if my priest used that much. 

2. Apparently there are pews in Near Eastern churches after all.  Who knew?

3. The congregations have nothing but throngs of women and little girls in them.  I guess the Coptic men are doing other things.


The Copts do use a lot of incense.  With regard to the video showing mostly the women in the congregation, I'm not sure I would take that as evidence that there are no men present.  In Coptic churches, women and men stand on separate sides, and the person making the video may have just for some reason taken more shots of the women's side of the church.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 12, 2009, 03:36:00 AM
Another hymn to the Coptic Church, "Our Glorious Church."

A very nice video.  I gleaned a few things from it. 

1. The Copts use a lot of incense during services.  I think everyone in my parish would start coughing if my priest used that much. 

2. Apparently there are pews in Near Eastern churches after all.  Who knew?

3. The congregations have nothing but throngs of women and little girls in them.  I guess the Coptic men are doing other things.


The Copts do use a lot of incense.  With regard to the video showing mostly the women in the congregation, I'm not sure I would take that as evidence that there are no men present.  In Coptic churches, women and men stand on separate sides, and the person making the video may have just for some reason taken more shots of the women's side of the church.

I remember learning to be an altar deacon, every once in a while, I had to add one, maybe even two new coals into the censor for the priest (probably amounting to 6 or 7 coals burned for the day).  And then when adding the new smoke alarm system, our liturgies were seldom interrupted by the smoke alarms.  Upon going to another church, the priest there would not allow deacons to put coals in the censor.  He used one and a half, maybe two, and had two fans on either side of the altar venting the smoke away from him.  It turned out, he had asthma.  I also had a bishop who also had lung issues asking if the censor be put outside the altar.  This really gets me concerned of our use of the censor and the congregations who might not be able to handle it.

As for pews, well, I believe pews started when Copts complained of back problems (that's what a monk told me once in his remarks of whiny people).  In the old days, people sat on the floor.  Pews are relatively modernistic (although started a while ago, but probably only after influence of Western Christianity).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Rosehip on October 12, 2009, 06:51:24 PM
I would think so much incense could indeed be detrimental to pulmonary health, to say the least.

It was interesting to see the ostrich eggs in the "Our Glorious Church" video. I met a Coptic girl once who mentioned the fact that in the Coptic Church, ostrich eggs are symbolic of something (I forget what), and always hang in the Church.

I'd be interested in hearing more about this custom!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 12, 2009, 06:55:12 PM
Traditionally the eggs can be found in Armenian churches also.  I've been told they represent the Resurrection.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Rosehip on October 12, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
I can't quite remember everything she told me, but I believe she said something to the effect that the ostrich is one bird which never leaves its eggs unattended, and so is symbolic of God ever watching over us, or something to the effect. I wish I could better recall her words.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 12, 2009, 07:23:04 PM
I can't quite remember everything she told me, but I believe she said something to the effect that the ostrich is one bird which never leaves its eggs unattended, and so is symbolic of God ever watching over us, or something to the effect. I wish I could better recall her words.

That and rebirth and resurrection all in one decorative egg (with all the insides empty of course).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on October 13, 2009, 01:43:32 AM
I don't know about ostriches, but the symbols of the phoenix and the peacock were important in early Christianity.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 13, 2009, 02:01:08 AM
I don't know about ostriches, but the symbols of the phoenix and the peacock were important in early Christianity.

Peacocks are often used in Armenian iconography.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 13, 2009, 02:05:19 AM
This is the Lord's prayer in Armenian, sung to a tune which is very different from what you normally hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4uuhClZfos&feature=channel

A woman from the same group is singing another beautiful hymn here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ4As-DMbmo&feature=channel

It's a hymn which I've heard before in church, but I don't know much about it.  Hopefully someone who knows this stuff better than I do, will see this and give more info.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Jo2444 on October 13, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
I remember learning to be an altar deacon, every once in a while, I had to add one, maybe even two new coals into the censor for the priest (probably amounting to 6 or 7 coals burned for the day).  And then when adding the new smoke alarm system, our liturgies were seldom interrupted by the smoke alarms.  Upon going to another church, the priest there would not allow deacons to put coals in the censor.  He used one and a half, maybe two, and had two fans on either side of the altar venting the smoke away from him.  It turned out, he had asthma.  I also had a bishop who also had lung issues asking if the censor be put outside the altar.  This really gets me concerned of our use of the censor and the congregations who might not be able to handle it.
i just realized something... is inhaling the censor technically second hand smoking?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 13, 2009, 02:41:20 PM
I remember learning to be an altar deacon, every once in a while, I had to add one, maybe even two new coals into the censor for the priest (probably amounting to 6 or 7 coals burned for the day).  And then when adding the new smoke alarm system, our liturgies were seldom interrupted by the smoke alarms.  Upon going to another church, the priest there would not allow deacons to put coals in the censor.  He used one and a half, maybe two, and had two fans on either side of the altar venting the smoke away from him.  It turned out, he had asthma.  I also had a bishop who also had lung issues asking if the censor be put outside the altar.  This really gets me concerned of our use of the censor and the congregations who might not be able to handle it.
i just realized something... is inhaling the censor technically second hand smoking?

I don't know.  I haven't seen any studies on incense smoke and the effects it has on the lungs.  But it seems to have an effect on those prone to asthma or perhaps allergic.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 16, 2009, 01:10:58 AM
Coptic tasbeha hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWGY-4GjcTI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 21, 2009, 02:23:36 AM
A Syriac hymn, with transliteration and an English translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wo00EgsT6Y
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 20, 2009, 08:52:00 PM
A post communion hymn and dance in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bkt96v2CL4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 21, 2009, 04:03:32 AM
Indian Orthodox hymn for the Feast of the Transfiguration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jov_NzzhcMQ


Also hymns for Good Friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqXnHskP3EE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AGKXvrzpuI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 21, 2009, 01:06:11 PM
From a liturgy at a Malankara Orthodox church in Cleveland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13AMhmPuIfM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on November 25, 2009, 06:00:16 PM
Some short Indian hymns from a blog home recording:

Krupa Cheyyaname
Hruyjumathi kalkkirulil dyuthi yulavayi
Maathru vishudha
Jananee Parishudha


They're short, but absolutely beautiful!
http://diocesangeeksquad.blogspot.com/2009/01/fun-with-liturgical-songs-part-1.html (http://diocesangeeksquad.blogspot.com/2009/01/fun-with-liturgical-songs-part-1.html)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 10, 2009, 01:29:15 AM
An Ethiopian Mezmur, praising the Holy Trinity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JlcBVw0jc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 15, 2009, 10:14:05 PM
My Favourite Coptic Nativity Hymn, E-Parthenos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsI8-gfJUfI

Before presenting an amazing performance of the hymn (from 6:49 onwards) the lead chanter of the famous Coptic vocal group, 'David Ensemble', begins by giving amazing insight into the manner in which the melody and rhythm of this hymn translate the spiritual and theological principles lyrically expressed.

This mysterious, harmonious interplay between lyrics and melody/rhythm is a standard characteristic of all Coptic Orthodox Liturgical hymns.

An english rendition of E-Parthenos exclusively recorded for erkohet.com may be downloaded from that website at the following link: http://erkohet.com/downloads/E-Parthenos_+_Pijenmisi_erkohet.mp3

To follow the english translation at the basis of the above recording (which is more accurate than the one displayed in the subtitles of the above-linked youtube clip), see here:
http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77%3Aeparthenos-lyrics&Itemid=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 16, 2009, 05:21:00 AM
My Favourite Coptic Nativity Hymn, E-Parthenos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsI8-gfJUfI

Before presenting an amazing performance of the hymn (from 6:49 onwards) the lead chanter of the famous Coptic vocal group, 'David Ensemble', begins by giving amazing insight into the manner in which the melody and rhythm of this hymn translate the spiritual and theological principles lyrically expressed.

This mysterious, harmonious interplay between lyrics and melody/rhythm is a standard characteristic of all Coptic Orthodox Liturgical hymns.

An english rendition of E-Parthenos exclusively recorded for erkohet.com may be downloaded from that website at the following link: http://erkohet.com/downloads/E-Parthenos_+_Pijenmisi_erkohet.mp3

To follow the english translation at the basis of the above recording (which is more accurate than the one displayed in the subtitles of the above-linked youtube clip), see here:
http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77%3Aeparthenos-lyrics&Itemid=1


Is it true that this hymn was added by recently by HH St. Pope Kyrillos VI?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 17, 2009, 02:13:25 AM
Some more beautiful Coptic chanting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DkK8uWWjHM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 26, 2009, 09:36:15 PM
The following clip displays, similar to the previous clip I posted a link for, another Coptic Nativity hymn--this time the reading of the Psalm in what is known as the 'Singari tune'--preceded by commentary on the interplay between the theological content of the hymn, its rhythm and its melody. Unfortunately, this clip does not have english subtitles as the other one does. For those who do not understand Arabic and would like to skip straight to the performance of the hymn, go to 4:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p848wyh8kqk

The lyrics of the hymn in english are as follows:

Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia. The Lord said to Me, "You are My Son, today I have begotten You. Ask of Me, and I will give You the heathen for Your inheritance, and the ends of the earth for Your possession. Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia.

Wondering why it takes Copts over 5 minutes to chant two lines? Read here! (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100%3Acopticmelismata&Itemid=22)  ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 30, 2009, 03:50:40 AM
I love the congregational singing in this video taken in a Coptic church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeXb83sWBLI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on January 06, 2010, 10:48:44 PM
Here are two Syriac hymns from the Syriac Orthodox Liturgy of Theophany (Denaha in Syriac).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4ioMqvOyQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wOxMnguRA4

Mathew G M
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Heorhij on January 06, 2010, 11:06:15 PM
Sorry guys, I can't relate to that, just like I can't relate to the Bysantine musical tradition. Paradoxically I, an Eastern European - a Ukrainian, - am still 100% engraved in the Western European musical tradition. The fundamentals of what I perceive as "music" generally, including the church music, are Western European Baroque tradition. That's what shaped Bortnyansky, Berezovsky, Vedel... All the "prostopinie" flies next to my ears never entering them, let alone the music of the pre-European Bysantine empire or the Arabic or whatever other music. I don't hate it... I am not saying it's bad... but it just isn't MINE...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 08, 2010, 12:35:02 AM
Here are two Syriac hymns from the Syriac Orthodox Liturgy of Theophany (Denaha in Syriac).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4ioMqvOyQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wOxMnguRA4

Mathew G M

I love the word to the hymns.  The first one:

The skies above the river smiled, filling the world with joy.
The crowds are amazed; the river agitated by the manifestation of the (Holy) Trinity.

The Son is standing in the moving waters, being baptized by His servant; The Holy Spirit descending from heaven; and the Father testifying: This is My Son.

By Your baptism, O Lord, purify our minds to be a place for
Your majesty. And by Your manifestation, enlighten our senses that we may thank You for Your goodness.


The second one:

John mixed the water of baptism,
Which Jesus sanctified when he went down into the river to be baptized in it,
At that moment when He came out of the water, heaven and earth paid Him honor,
The sun submitted its dazzling light and the stars bowed for Him,
Who sanctified all the rivers and springs, halleluiah, halleluiah


It's beautiful how the hymns make it seem like nature literally came to life when Christ entered the waters of the Jordan.  There is an Armenian Theophany hymn with a similar theme.  It must  be a common theme at Theophany.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: AmdeBirhan on January 08, 2010, 01:29:51 AM
VERY MOVING!  What a great sound! Betam Gubbez!

Ethiopian chant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdybDgU1Oe0&feature=channel_page


and a child beautifully singing a mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuAisC46GMI&feature=channel_page








(Edited by Salpy to fix quote tags.)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on January 08, 2010, 04:41:40 AM
From a liturgy at a Malankara Orthodox church in Cleveland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13AMhmPuIfM

I really liked seeing this.  It reminded me of this other oriental liturgy that is is English.  I'm sure it has probably been posted on here already, but I'll do it anyway just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: AmdeBirhan on January 09, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
Mayber this needs to go in a tangent thread my Brother Salpy, (by the way thank you for sharing the chants, I read it and will look at the chanting of it soon come thanks)
    but about the way nature respond to the Lord Kristos, our beloved Meriegieta Afework told us how the trees used to bow to Him as He walked, as I had read that the trees bowed to give Him fruits for His Mother while sojourning in Egypt, and he also told how the river fled from Him (psalms 114) and he told of how the water leaped up at the Lord's Command and tyhat John didnt move the water actually baptising him with his hand.  Also let us recall how 'the stones would praise " Him if not the children.  Actually I now remember how in psalm 148 the whole creation sing His praise.
Amde
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 09, 2010, 06:52:26 PM
I guess that really is a common theme then among the OO Churches.  It's really beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on January 09, 2010, 10:06:23 PM
Wondering why it takes Copts over 5 minutes to chant two lines? Read here! (http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100%3Acopticmelismata&Itemid=22)  ;)


Awesome, EA.  Thanks!  :) 

I've been interested in Egyptian culture since I was very young.  It is wonderful to know more specifics about how the pre-Christian paganism of Egypt was baptized in to Christianity.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: _Seraphim_ on January 09, 2010, 10:09:02 PM
and a [10 year old] child beautifully singing a mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuAisC46GMI&feature=channel_page





Precious!  My 10 year old niece was very captivated.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on January 10, 2010, 03:41:20 PM
From a liturgy at a Malankara Orthodox church in Cleveland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13AMhmPuIfM

I really liked seeing this.  It reminded me of this other oriental liturgy that is is English.  I'm sure it has probably been posted on here already, but I'll do it anyway just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWChywFF9eQ

I love that video.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on January 12, 2010, 06:42:34 AM
From the Armenian liturgy at St James Cathedral, Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded


The following is from the Armenian Liturgy served in Bethlehem, the cave where the Lord was born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBoOaSLPCE&feature=player_embedded


The videos are uploaded by Fr Ghevond Hovhannisyan, the dean of the Church of Holy Archangels, Jerusalem.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: coptickev on January 12, 2010, 10:44:56 AM
From the Armenian liturgy at St James Cathedral, Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded


The following is from the Armenian Liturgy served in Bethlehem, the cave where the Lord was born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBoOaSLPCE&feature=player_embedded


The videos are uploaded by Fr Ghevond Hovhannisyan, the dean of the Church of Holy Archangels, Jerusalem.



Awesome videos. I have a question about the Bethlehem one. The plate with the bread that the Deacon is giving out, does that mean that only the Priest is receiving the Body and Blood, or is that the Communion for the people?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on January 12, 2010, 10:55:30 AM
From the Armenian liturgy at St James Cathedral, Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded


The following is from the Armenian Liturgy served in Bethlehem, the cave where the Lord was born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBoOaSLPCE&feature=player_embedded


The videos are uploaded by Fr Ghevond Hovhannisyan, the dean of the Church of Holy Archangels, Jerusalem.



Awesome videos. I have a question about the Bethlehem one. The plate with the bread that the Deacon is giving out, does that mean that only the Priest is receiving the Body and Blood, or is that the Communion for the people?

I myself asked that question. It seems no one, except for the priest, had communion, even the clergy didn't partake... Strange. Maybe they had already had another Liturgy before that, that's why?????

I noticed that the second link I provided is the same with the first. It should've been the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5OUEoZXecU&feature=channel


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on January 12, 2010, 07:29:24 PM
From the Armenian liturgy at St James Cathedral, Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wNOelkL3U&feature=player_embedded


The following is from the Armenian Liturgy served in Bethlehem, the cave where the Lord was born.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBoOaSLPCE&feature=player_embedded


The videos are uploaded by Fr Ghevond Hovhannisyan, the dean of the Church of Holy Archangels, Jerusalem.



Awesome! I think the Armenian might be my favorite musical tradition of the OOC.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on January 13, 2010, 07:01:07 AM
Some more from the same Father's uploads (from this year's Easter services at the tomb of Our Lord Jesus Christ):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeyxfS5J_w&feature=channel

(in the above video you may see also the inside of the tomb or Kuvuklia)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-e2KLJ9f_g&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtpDQmvXoA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3FpS0JF8ls&feature=channel
Title: Beginning of the new year at St James Monastery, Jerusalem
Post by: vasnTearn on January 14, 2010, 11:04:54 AM
A fresh video from Jerusalem. At 12.00  am of the first day of the new year (according to Julian Calendar) the seminarians in the yard of St James Monastery, Jerusalem, sing "Glory to God in the highest" ('Park i bartsuns Astutso' - in Armenian), then a Theophany hymn ("The Sun of Righteousness has been manifested").

Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQCteuvMIM&feature=channel

Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCuEBDW2N_M&feature=channel

Title: Re: more music
Post by: Papist on January 14, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
i'm going to create an esnips account and will commit myself to do my very best to upload at least a couple of good quality files (from the number of CD's i've obtained over the years) every week.
To quote Star Wars: "But my lord, is that legal?"
"I will make it legal."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on January 20, 2010, 06:59:44 AM
The blessed Theophany of our Lord Jesus Christ, celebrated in Bethlehem by the Armenians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgtu9T1EcCE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSOzkx1uwyg&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TklibCAXQCc&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FGcpUxwEcA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLCGQk0hBdg&feature=channel
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 20, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
These videos you have been posting are amazing!  Thank you, VasnTearn.  Do you know the priest who has been recording them?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on January 21, 2010, 05:34:22 AM
These videos you have been posting are amazing!  Thank you, VasnTearn.  Do you know the priest who has been recording them?

Yes, dear Salpy, I know him. He is a hieromonk, Fr Ghevond Hovhannisyan. Pls pray for him and for all the members of our Church there. They need our prayers very very much...

I'm glad you liked the videos :).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Rustaveli on January 24, 2010, 10:48:08 AM
How about www.tewahedo.org, for Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo music...?:

www.tewahedo.org (http://www.tewahedo.org)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 26, 2010, 10:48:12 PM
It seems a new CD of Coptic hymns in English is being released for Lent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX5wwcdmzTc

http://www.orthodoxbookstore.org/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on January 28, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
From the Coptic Liturgy of St. Basil the Great. I thought this priest had a particularly beautiful voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGUNI_6vxCA&feature=channel

Greek: Holy, Holy Holy
Coptic: Holy, Holy, Holy, O Lord our God
Arabic: Who formed us, created us, and placed us in the paradise of joy. When you disobeyed Your commandment by the guile of the serpent, we fell from eternal life and were exiled from the paradise of joy. You have not abandoned us to the end, but have always visited us through Your holy prophets. And in the last days You did manifest Yourself to us, who were sitting in darkness and the shadows of death, through Your Only-Begotten Son, our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ, Who, of the Holy Spirit and of the Holy Virgin Mary...

People: Amen

...was incarnate and became man, and taught us the ways of salvation. He granted us the birth from on high through water and Spirit. He made us unto Himself a congregation, and sanctified us by Your Holy Spirit. This is He Who loved His own who are in the world, and gave Himself up for our salvation unto death which reigned over us, whereby we were bound and sold on account of our sins. He descended into Hades through the Cross.

People: Amen. We believe

He rose from the dead on the third day. He ascended into the heavens and sat at Your right hand, O Father. He appointed a day for recompense, on which He will appear to judge the world in righteousness, and give each one according to his deeds.

People: According to Your mercy, O Lord, and not according to our sins.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on January 28, 2010, 01:00:26 PM
My Favourite Coptic Nativity Hymn, E-Parthenos:
Is it true that this hymn was added recently by HH St. Pope Kyrillos VI?

This is the main Kontakion of the Nativity in the EO tradition. It is attributed to St. Romanos the Melodist, who lived after the schism of 451, so it seems quite likely that it was a recent addition to the Coptic tradition.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 30, 2010, 08:49:06 AM
Alleleuia, the thought of man shall confess to You, O Lord; and the rest of thought shall keep a feast to You. These sacrifices and offerings, receive them unto Yourself. Alleleuia. (http://coptichymnsinenglish.net/lotw%20st%20mark%20sd/al%20the%20thought%20of%20man.mp3)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on January 30, 2010, 08:49:36 AM
From the Coptic Liturgy of St. Basil the Great. I thought this priest had a particularly beautiful voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGUNI_6vxCA&feature=channel

Greek: Holy, Holy Holy
Coptic: Holy, Holy, Holy, O Lord our God
Arabic: Who formed us, created us, and placed us in the paradise of joy. When you disobeyed Your commandment by the guile of the serpent, we fell from eternal life and were exiled from the paradise of joy. You have not abandoned us to the end, but have always visited us through Your holy prophets. And in the last days You did manifest Yourself to us, who were sitting in darkness and the shadows of death, through Your Only-Begotten Son, our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ, Who, of the Holy Spirit and of the Holy Virgin Mary...

People: Amen

...was incarnate and became man, and taught us the ways of salvation. He granted us the birth from on high through water and Spirit. He made us unto Himself a congregation, and sanctified us by Your Holy Spirit. This is He Who loved His own who are in the world, and gave Himself up for our salvation unto death which reigned over us, whereby we were bound and sold on account of our sins. He descended into Hades through the Cross.

People: Amen. We believe

He rose from the dead on the third day. He ascended into the heavens and sat at Your right hand, O Father. He appointed a day for recompense, on which He will appear to judge the world in righteousness, and give each one according to his deeds.

People: According to Your mercy, O Lord, and not according to our sins.

Nice find!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 02, 2010, 02:01:11 AM
The Monogenes, I think in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDhFp4E7N4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on February 03, 2010, 10:25:51 AM
Consecration of the waters of the River Jordan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKN7UGv7tyE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1_ChJNSD50&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgjPw12oiVk&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQk4WD8SInk&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Iconodule on February 03, 2010, 11:00:33 AM
The Monogenes, I think in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDhFp4E7N4

Isn't this penned by St. Justinian, and therefore an EO hymn?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on February 03, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Isn't this penned by St. Justinian, and therefore an EO hymn?

There are traditions attributing it to Severos of Antioch. Read the description next to the youtube video, it explains this quite clearly.


That being said, the OO do not seem to have any problems with adopting EO liturgical influences at various points in history. The Nativity Kontakion of St. Romanos the Melodist mentioned above is one such example. There are numerous other examples, but O Monogenis is not one of them.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: vasnTearn on February 03, 2010, 11:18:44 AM
"Monogenis" is a part of the Armenian Divine liturgy too and in one of the letters by an Armenian Father (of the 8th century, if I remember correctly) it is attributed to St Cyril of Alexandria. :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: seko on February 08, 2010, 03:07:03 AM
http://fr-ghevond.livejournal.com/27691.html

Press on this link it has some amazing church music and photos.
This is from St.John the Baptist Celebration in Jerusalem.
Hope you guys find this interesting =)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: seko on February 13, 2010, 03:24:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDIoT984j0M

Look at this video it has some amazing Oriental Orthodox Armenian Music. :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 19, 2010, 11:06:13 PM
A beautiful recording of the Coptic Trisagion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvypI4naU_U
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 25, 2010, 11:29:11 PM
A mezmur for Lent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JHemzHe2CI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 02, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
A Malankara Orthodox hymn for Lent, sung in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1fC8XPKyFc

The translation is given on the right side where it says "more info."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 02, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
A Syriac Orthodox hymn sung during Lent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmc3iFYdzhQ

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 02, 2010, 11:00:53 PM
Another Lenten hymn, sung in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pHPhrOrQYM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 05, 2010, 02:22:21 AM
I'd like to share with you a hymn from a priest I learned the Church hymns from.  He is probably my favorite priest I'd love to hear to chant.  I like a strong voice and if possible with high tones.  I personally pray the same way, and I personally would get bored when I go to Coptic churches where deacons insist on a very low tone of chanting.  I know perhaps this shouldn't be the case, but since my childhood I was brought in Fr. David Bebawy's way of chanting, and forever am I attracted to it, since my vocal cords can also handle it (I guess since it was trained in it).

Anyway, without further ado, here's one example of Fr. David Bebawy chanting "Praise of the Three Youth" (Praise Him and Exalt Him Above All).  I'm not sure if someone posted it earlier in this thread, but this is one hymn chanted by Fr. David with a high tone that I love very much.  Just imagine praying tasbeha with this man:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Praises%2FMidnight_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2C_Coptic_Midnight_Praises%2FPart_1%2Ftrack09.417.mp3

And here's the hymn that is sung before the "Praise of the Three Youth:"

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Praises%2FMidnight_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2C_Coptic_Midnight_Praises%2FPart_1%2Ftrack08.416.mp3
(there's a part cut in the middle)

Fr. David is also known for his very articulate way in using the cymbals; this is a simple way (for him), but there are more articulate ways he uses the cymbals such as the Morning Praises in the first Joyful Tone:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Praises%2FMorning_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2FJoy01.mp3
(he gives instructions before he begins in Arabic)

Lyrics here:
http://www.alhan.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=57

God bless.
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Post by: Salpy on March 05, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
Hymns from the Prime Service (Arevakal) being sung in an Armenian Church in Georgia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F09aXw_gP3g
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Post by: Rafa999 on March 07, 2010, 04:55:18 AM
Mina reccomend me the best Coptic music at tasbeha.org lots to choose.
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Post by: Salpy on March 07, 2010, 11:31:33 PM
Very short (too short  :) ) video of chant during what appears to be a procession of Armenian clergy in the Holy Sepulchre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aImoaFljQh4
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Post by: Salpy on March 20, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
A Coptic Midnight Praise, sung in English;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3SnPHcBVjE
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Post by: minasoliman on March 22, 2010, 12:13:03 AM
This is an Arabic spiritual music of the song (sung among Coptic circles), "Just Like a Bird" done with the Oud, one of my favorite instruments.  Apparently this is a snippet from an upcoming album, and the professional way that this was done, (much better than the use of electric pianos which we have resorted to using for quite some time) makes me desire this album sooner:

http://coptichymnsinenglish.net/just%20like%20the%20bird.wav

Here the original Arabic version:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Songs%2FArabic%2FKanisaty%2Ftrack_09.mp3

And the English:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Songs%2FEnglish%2FCoptic_Hymns_and_Spiritual_Songs_1%2Ftrack11.mp3

God bless.
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Post by: Nazarene on March 22, 2010, 01:53:01 PM
I may be asking for the impossible but does anyone have link for chanting in Farsi (Persian)? I love this language and I'm sure it sounds beautiful. I know there are OOs in Iran.
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Post by: Rafa999 on March 22, 2010, 02:52:55 PM
This is an Arabic spiritual music of the song (sung among Coptic circles), "Just Like a Bird" done with the Oud, one of my favorite instruments.  Apparently this is a snippet from an upcoming album, and the professional way that this was done, (much better than the use of electric pianos which we have resorted to using for quite some time) makes me desire this album sooner:

http://coptichymnsinenglish.net/just%20like%20the%20bird.wav

Here the original Arabic version:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Songs%2FArabic%2FKanisaty%2Ftrack_09.mp3

And the English:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Songs%2FEnglish%2FCoptic_Hymns_and_Spiritual_Songs_1%2Ftrack11.mp3

God bless.

Thankyou. I love the old Egyptian instruments, especially the cymbals. Very beautiful music from the Copt bros.
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Post by: Salpy on March 22, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
I may be asking for the impossible but does anyone have link for chanting in Farsi (Persian)? I love this language and I'm sure it sounds beautiful. I know there are OOs in Iran.

Most, if not all, OO's in Iran are Armenian.  The Armenians chant in Classical Armenian.  I don't know if there are any Orthodox Churches that have chant in Farsi.
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Post by: Salpy on March 29, 2010, 09:26:19 PM
This is a hymn sung during Holy Week in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2duSIcsynnM

It sounds very familiar to me, but I can't place it or recall exactly when it's sung.  If someone else listens to this and knows, please tell us.   :)
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Post by: Salpy on April 04, 2010, 09:23:14 PM
A hymn sung by deacons in the Coptic Church, Esbeteer (One is the Holy Father):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXLjpbsSt4

This is the English translation of the words, written by the person who put the hymn on youtube:

One is the Holy Father
One is the Holy Son
One is the Holy Spirit, Amen.
Blessed be the Lord God forever Amen.
Praise the Lord all ye nations
Praise Him all ye people
For His mercy is confirmed upon us
And the truth of the Lord endures forever Amen, Alleluia.
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Post by: minasoliman on April 05, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
A hymn sung by deacons in the Coptic Church, Esbeteer (One is the Holy Father):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXLjpbsSt4

This is the English translation of the words, written by the person who put the hymn on youtube:

One is the Holy Father
One is the Holy Son
One is the Holy Spirit, Amen.
Blessed be the Lord God forever Amen.
Praise the Lord all ye nations
Praise Him all ye people
For His mercy is confirmed upon us
And the truth of the Lord endures forever Amen, Alleluia.


Actually they're singing the Papal version of the hymn.  What you have quoted is just the version said on normal days.  What those deacons hymned was a version said during feast days, and these are the words:

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Amen. One is the holy Father, One is the holy Son, One is the holy Spirit. Amen.

To You is dominion in the day of Your power, in the light of the saints, from the womb before the morning star, have I begotten You.

The Lord swore and will not repent, "You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." (Our holy father, the high priest) [3 times], Pope Abba (Shenouda).

If a metropolitan/bishop is present:
(And our father the (metropolitan/bishop), Abba (...)).

May the God of heaven confirm him (them) on his (their) throne for many years and peaceful times.

And humiliate all his (their) enemies under his (their) feet speedily.

Ask Christ on our behalf to forgive us our sins in peace according to His great mercy.

Blessed be the Lord God forever. Amen.

Praise the Lord all you nations, praise Him all you peoples, for His mercy is confirmed upon us, and the truth of the Lord endures forever. Amen Alleluia.

And that deacon did not need to say "One is the Holy Father..." again.  He should have just continued from "Blessed be the Lord God...."
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Post by: Nazarene on April 05, 2010, 02:54:47 PM
I may be asking for the impossible but does anyone have link for chanting in Farsi (Persian)? I love this language and I'm sure it sounds beautiful. I know there are OOs in Iran.

Most, if not all, OO's in Iran are Armenian.  The Armenians chant in Classical Armenian.  I don't know if there are any Orthodox Churches that have chant in Farsi.

I believe there are some Syrian Orthodox there too. Oh well guess I was asking for the impossible, pity as Farsi is such a gorgeous language, it would sound amazing chanted.
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Post by: minasoliman on April 05, 2010, 04:30:41 PM
I may be asking for the impossible but does anyone have link for chanting in Farsi (Persian)? I love this language and I'm sure it sounds beautiful. I know there are OOs in Iran.

Most, if not all, OO's in Iran are Armenian.  The Armenians chant in Classical Armenian.  I don't know if there are any Orthodox Churches that have chant in Farsi.

I believe there are some Syrian Orthodox there too. Oh well guess I was asking for the impossible, pity as Farsi is such a gorgeous language, it would sound amazing chanted.

Maybe one day...
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Post by: Andrew21091 on April 05, 2010, 11:33:14 PM
A beautiful prayer chanted in Aramaic by a Syrian Archbishop. I really love this recording

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6nTExkJ-Ks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6nTExkJ-Ks)
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Post by: kazakage on April 06, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
Indian Orthodox hymn for the Feast of the Transfiguration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jov_NzzhcMQ


Also hymns for Good Friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqXnHskP3EE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AGKXvrzpuI


Nice Salpy. and btw this one : youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY is sung always..
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Post by: Salpy on April 07, 2010, 12:01:53 AM
Syriac Orthodox prayer, I think from Holy Week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTWcVms3u8g
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Post by: Salpy on April 07, 2010, 12:07:46 AM

Nice Salpy. and btw this one : youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY is sung always..

Thank you for that.  I love your Church's music.   :)

I think this is the full link for what you posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY

Clicking on that will take people to it directly.  Let me know if it is not the right video.
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Post by: kazakage on April 07, 2010, 09:02:16 AM

Nice Salpy. and btw this one : youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY is sung always..

Thank you for that.  I love your Church's music.   :)

I think this is the full link for what you posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWKiOeGx8mY

Clicking on that will take people to it directly.  Let me know if it is not the right video.

okay..u r correct...itz sung during gud friday..i think i gt it confused with one of ur previous posts..:)) ;D
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Post by: Salpy on April 09, 2010, 02:00:44 AM
Good Friday procession in an Indian Orthodox Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNh8EmkWgXk

The hymn is just beautiful.
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Post by: Salpy on April 12, 2010, 09:23:59 PM
Coptic Resurrection hymn, To Lithos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEKX36YVBSU
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Post by: SamB on April 13, 2010, 02:40:05 AM
From amongst the best specimens of Syriac chant to be found on Youtube for the time being:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qpfNRc8zXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0JyrI2Bdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qtJIFxG14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhb56R_4aE

Beware the awful video montage, however.
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Post by: minasoliman on April 13, 2010, 04:12:31 AM
From amongst the best specimens of Syriac chant to be found on Youtube for the time being:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qpfNRc8zXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-0JyrI2Bdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qtJIFxG14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRhb56R_4aE

Beware the awful video montage, however.

I haven't listened to the other three, but I just had to comment on the first link.  Oh my God.  When I get back to the states, I might have to visit a Syriac Church bookstore for some Abouna Saliba recordings.  I love it!
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Post by: Salpy on April 17, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
Aramaic hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84yb1PQRTUE

I love the woman who is singing it. 
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Post by: minasoliman on April 17, 2010, 02:21:35 PM
browsing around, I found this Aramaic hymn of the Lord's Prayer sung by a famous singer from Lebanon I think (she became famous through an Arabic equivalent of American Idol).  What's interesting as I compare this to the other ways, she sings this at a much higher tone, and adds a Western ring to it with an operatic ending.  Very beautiful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j9X6qbPAtk&feature=related

Here's another one in a choral and lower tone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkntN2RHdxE&feature=related
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Post by: minasoliman on April 17, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
Abir Nehme singing "Hail Mary" at a Lebanese program (I guessing at this moment with the way she talks about the Syriac language and the liturgy, she seems to be Orthodox Syriac):

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcjpyv_abir-nehme-sings-in-the-syriac-lang_music
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Post by: Salpy on April 19, 2010, 10:51:06 PM
Malankara Orthodox hymns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=fw-wEkJtivk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fkeralamax%23p%2Fu
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Post by: Salpy on April 26, 2010, 05:35:52 PM
Isabel Bayrakdarian singing "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord of Hosts":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Y9yzTxCfw
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Post by: Salpy on May 03, 2010, 01:56:55 AM
Some beautiful chant and a liturgical dance at an Eritrean Church in Chicago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oahZc74Xck&feature=related
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Post by: SamB on May 03, 2010, 06:42:32 AM
Abir Nehme singing "Hail Mary" at a Lebanese program (I guessing at this moment with the way she talks about the Syriac language and the liturgy, she seems to be Orthodox Syriac):

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcjpyv_abir-nehme-sings-in-the-syriac-lang_music

The Hail Mary appears to be the Maronite version, and not that of the SOC.

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What's interesting as I compare this to the other ways, she sings this at a much higher tone, and adds a Western ring to it with an operatic ending.

I'm sorry, however, Mina, but I personally cannot stomach that awful signature sound that is Majidar-Roumi operatic warbling.  Lebanese Maronites in particular lose all restraint around it, eager to apply it as a facelift to what should rather be left alone.  The modern-day trend of utter cheesiness in contemporary Maronite worship includes subjecting religious material to the overly saccharine soap-opera treatment.  Frankly, I rather prefer to endure listening to one of Um Kulthum's songs being played as a mix. ;) (It is true and I am a surviving witness--coming from one wicked New Year's party--to the fact that dark and demented souls do exist that would violate a specimen as "Inta Umri" in the most torturously sacrilegious way by injecting it with a techno beat.)
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Post by: minasoliman on May 03, 2010, 04:18:28 PM
(It is true and I am a surviving witness--coming from one wicked New Year's party--to the fact that dark and demented souls do exist that would violate a specimen as "Inta Umri" in the most torturously sacrilegious way by injecting it with a techno beat.)

LOL!  I totally agree with you.  My cousin thought he'd please me (since I love Oum Kalthoum) by making me listen to the techno "remix," and I did feel not only it violated her song, but I kinda felt violated by it too.

I will say though that despite her operatic "Ameen" at the end, most of the Lord's Prayer is preserved only with a higher tone of music.  That's pretty much it.  If you ever heard George Wassouf sing "Inta Omry" he sings it a lower tone, since his voice can't reach Oum Kalthoum's high tone.  I'm a very bit advocate of "high toning" some of our Coptic hymns, with a strong voice like how Fr. David Bebawy sings them as I shared earlier.

I assumed that since Abir Nehme sang the "Lord's Prayer" at a Syriac Orthodox Church that she was Orthodox, but I may be wrong.

Here's one sung by a priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLZr11JhMM&feature=related
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Post by: minasoliman on May 03, 2010, 04:37:39 PM
Abir Nehme singing "Hail Mary" at a Lebanese program (I guessing at this moment with the way she talks about the Syriac language and the liturgy, she seems to be Orthodox Syriac):

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcjpyv_abir-nehme-sings-in-the-syriac-lang_music

Okay, here's the Syriac Orthodox way to sing "Hail Mary:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpMM9ZuRkKs

(I'm not sure if EA posted the English version here, but if you go to Erkohet, he has a recording of it in English).
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Post by: minasoliman on May 03, 2010, 04:41:44 PM
Another beautiful Abune D'Bashmayo recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I
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Post by: Salpy on May 06, 2010, 09:47:10 PM
I love this mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBe7DksGJo
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Post by: Alveus Lacuna on May 07, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Don't know if this has been posted, but you have to listen to the whole thing. It's "mesmer"izing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNE8URlONIk&feature=related

And another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmTrV4XjI&feature=related
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Post by: Feanor on May 07, 2010, 05:03:34 AM
Don't know if this has been posted, but you have to listen to the whole thing. It's "mesmer"izing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNE8URlONIk&feature=related

And another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmTrV4XjI&feature=related


Wow.... I am speechless. That was profoundly beautiful.
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Post by: minasoliman on May 10, 2010, 05:14:02 PM
From another thread, nice recordings of Syriac daily prayers:

Recordings of the Syriac Orthodox Daily prayers (Shhemo) are here http://www.zmirotho.org/Shhemo/ShhemoIndex.htm (http://www.zmirotho.org/Shhemo/ShhemoIndex.htm) (in Syriac)
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Post by: Timos on May 10, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
I'm not sure if this link has already been posted but this is an entire Syriac Liturgy in Aramaic and Arabic:

http://www.youtube.com/user/BCSYRIAC#p/u/9/_wKPWCpsVUU
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Post by: Salpy on May 20, 2010, 10:56:57 PM
I like the congregational singing at this Ethiopian Orthodox parish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Ffefe4247%23p%2Fa%2Fu%2F1%2FhtUV6vrhLYs&v=htUV6vrhLYs&feature=player_profilepage
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Post by: Salpy on May 24, 2010, 09:41:51 PM
The Gospel being chanted in the Malankara Syriac Orthodox Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7elZOMD-0ic
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Post by: Salpy on May 28, 2010, 01:04:59 AM
A beautiful Coptic hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE300iCKvxE
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Post by: Alveus Lacuna on May 28, 2010, 02:12:22 AM
I like the congregational singing at this Ethiopian Orthodox parish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Ffefe4247%23p%2Fa%2Fu%2F1%2FhtUV6vrhLYs&v=htUV6vrhLYs&feature=player_profilepage

If you like that, check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cEO3ynXpI&feature=related

They are so joyful!
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Post by: Salpy on May 31, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
This video is of hymns sung on "Easter night" at a Coptic church.  I wonder if they mean the night before Easter morning, or Easter Eve.  The women are carrying lanterns in the dark, and I wonder if they represent the myrrh bearing women.  Can anyone give an explanation of what is in the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Axk0I2_80
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Post by: jydeacon on May 31, 2010, 05:39:12 PM
This is not a regular practice at the church to sing spiritual songs unless this is outside the service. From what it looks like, it seems this is right before the resurrection enactment. This is not common to see and is ritualistically inappropriate to do such in the middle of the liturgy. But that is my take on the matter, this could simply be a choir singing outside of the service. During the Holy 50 or even on bright saturday
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Post by: Salpy on May 31, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
Thanks for the insight.

My guess was that it was being done outside of the liturgy, due to the clapping that occurred when the women finished.  When I saw it, I had the feeling that it was a dramatization of the women at the Tomb.
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Post by: minasoliman on June 01, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
Actually, I think this is right before Onim Nai, a Coptic hymn said during an Easter liturgical service.  What gives it away is the deacon after they were done who started singing the beginnings of Onim Nai.
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Post by: jydeacon on June 01, 2010, 07:47:33 PM
You're right mina, I didn't finish the entire video, It was during the liturgy, however, I still stand by what I said in saying singing these spiritual songs during a Liturgy is wrong, not only that but in a choir fashion to the congregation.
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Post by: Salpy on June 01, 2010, 08:04:10 PM
That's too bad.  The music was beautiful.  What was the hymn about?

Also, why were the lights off?
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Post by: jydeacon on June 01, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
I don't have time at the moment to translate whats being said, but the lights are off because its during the resurrection re-enactment. We turn the lights off representing the darkness we were in before the resurrection, a deacon outside of the alter(alter curtains closed representing the separation between us and God) Says Christ is risen in Greek, Arabic, and in the diaspora the language of the country(english here) 3 times each. Then they go on with the part of a psalm(which one slips my mind) but the words are: Lift up your gates, O you Princes and be lifted o you everlasting gates(3 times) so that the King of Glory may enter. Who is the King of Glory? The Lord, the powerful, the strong, the mighty, victorious in battles; He is the King of glory." The lights are then turned on and we do a procession around the church chanting hymns for the resurrection. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM8GFZk5ObE
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Post by: Salpy on June 01, 2010, 11:54:01 PM
Thank you.  That's beautiful.
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Post by: jydeacon on June 01, 2010, 11:58:41 PM
Also here is the Resurrection enactment from the Cathedral in Cairo this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdxdVaO8sec&feature=related starts at about 50 seconds. Mind you, lead deacon(Ibrahim Ayad) recently had surgery for his voice and HH Pope shenouda is quite old, so it may not sound as beautiful as possible. HH had a great voice when he was younger
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Post by: minasoliman on June 02, 2010, 12:20:41 AM
Dear jydeacon,

What about the songs said in the video by the girls and the one man in the middle.  What were they saying?  I'm very deficient in Arabic, and I can only make out some of the words they said.
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Post by: jydeacon on June 02, 2010, 12:08:20 PM
Well from what I can hear, (My proper arabic is not that strong), the second and 3rd are about the resurrection, but I can't really make out what they are saying. I'm not sure what the first is about. Sorry!
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Post by: jydeacon on June 02, 2010, 12:10:57 PM
On a side note, thought I'd share a Psalm from the Agpeya(book of hours) chanted in its tune. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0LleY73_pY
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Post by: Salpy on June 02, 2010, 01:21:28 PM
Absolutely beautiful.
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Post by: Salpy on June 04, 2010, 05:24:22 PM
An Ethiopian spiritual song about St. Arsema (Hripsime):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4GSm13cc7k

Thanks to our brother Hiywot, who brought this to our attention, we have the translation of the words:

Ney Arsema holy – Ney Arsema martyr
Arsema, Arsema, – Ney Arsema
When I call thee Arsema – Ney Arsema
To intercede for me – Ney Arsema
To God thy creator – Ney Arsema
My sins, my mistakes – Ney Arsema
Let me confess to thee – Ney Arsema
Lead me O Arsema – Ney Arsema
Holding my hands – Ney Arsema
etc...

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,15818.msg442180.html#msg442180
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Post by: Salpy on June 07, 2010, 12:22:05 PM
This is sort of the official hymn of Holy Etchmiadzin, the Mother Cathedral of the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fgomiteci&v=Yf2uESP68Qk&feature=player_profilepage

I found the words and translation on an online church newsletter:

http://www.stsahmes.org/NewsPub/buletin/2005/052905.pdf

(Church newsletters can be so useful!  :) )  Here are the words and translation:


The Hymn of Holy Etchmiadzin
 
Etchmiadzinn ee Horeh yev looys parratz unt numa,
Tsaynk hunchetzeen santaramedk antuntotz.
Desyal uzlooys medz Hayrabedeen Kreekoree,
Badmer tzundzootyamp havadatzyal arkayeen.
Yegayk sheenestsook soorp uzkhoranun loosoh,
Kanzee ee suma dzakyats mez looys ee Hayastan ashkharhee.

The Only-Begotten descended from the Father, and the light of
glory was with him;
Voices resounded in the depths of Hades.
The patriarch Gregory saw the great light,
And joyfully told of it to the believing king.
Come let us build the sanctuary of light,
For therein shone forth light unto us in the land of Armenia.


The vision mentioned in the hymn was the vision of St. Gregory the Illuminator, in which Christ appeared to him.  The newsletter describes the vision, and how the name Etchmiadzin is derived from it:

"The name Etchmiadzin is a compound word in Armenian consisting
of two elements: etch, meaning “descent” and Miadzin, meaning “the Only
Begotten.” St. Gregory the Illuminator, the enlightener of the Armenian na-
tion and the founder of the catholicate as an institution, saw in a vision Christ
descending from heaven and striking the ground with a golden hammer. The
site was next to the court of King Drtad III in Vagharshabad, the present-day
Etchmiadzin. Gregory built an altar on the site of the descent and surrounded
it by a wall. The structure was soon converted to a church and represented the
earliest phase of the present-day cathedral."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 11, 2010, 06:48:19 PM
Hymn for the Dormition of the Mother of God in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rx9ZPK7Q0M


Here are the words in English, posted with the video:

St.Thomas wondered;
"How will I reach Jersusalem,
from India; so soon?"
when he heard the Holy Spirit telling him:
"Go and attend the funeral,
of the Mother of your Lord"

Suddenly a cloud came,
and took me in.
I saw the Virgin being carried up,
by the angelic hosts.

I told; "Dear Mother please wait;
Let me receive blessings by venerating,
your holy body."
The anglic hosts stopped, and with delight,
I approached her, venerated her,
and received blessings.

To show as proof of me witnessing
her undestructed body going to paradise,
I also got her handkerchief and belt.
And along with the angels, I praised God,
on this day of her dormition.

When St.Thomas saw the other disciples,
near the tomb of Virgin Mary, to convince them what he saw,
he requested them: "Please open her tomb,
so that I can also venerate her body,
just like you all could."

The disciples opened her tomb and saw it was empty.
They were amazed and told St.Thomas,
it was here that we laid her body.
At that moment, St.Thomas showed
the other disciples her handkerchief and belt
and he told them, her body is in paradise.

Let He who gave glory to the Dormition of His Mother; the Mesiah be glorified.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dionysios on June 12, 2010, 08:11:21 PM
This is sort of the official hymn of Holy Etchmiadzin, the Mother Cathedral of the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fgomiteci&v=Yf2uESP68Qk&feature=player_profilepage
Absolutely wonderful!
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Post by: Salpy on June 13, 2010, 12:26:14 AM
Welcome Dionysios!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dionysios on June 13, 2010, 09:48:01 AM
Welcome Dionysios!
Hello Salpy!
Greetings from Serbia to all OO brethren and sisters!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jydeacon on June 14, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
This is a full Midnight praise service done in primarily in English(from australia) and coptic with some arabic.
http://cid-4a98a4404168acc2.office.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public/St%20Mark^4s%20Sydney%20Tasbeha%202 (http://cid-4a98a4404168acc2.office.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public/St%20Mark^4s%20Sydney%20Tasbeha%202)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on June 16, 2010, 08:18:02 PM
Another interesting version of "Aboun D'Bashmayo" chanted by an Indian Orthodox priest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzqUXGlZUCA&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 23, 2010, 12:25:31 PM
A resurrection hymn in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foRgf9G0Ess

Posted with the video is a translation of the hymn, as well as the transliteration of the words:


ENGLISH TRANSLATION

O Mary! I am the Gardner
I am the one who established Paradise
O Mary! I am the life of all living things.
I am the rising up and resurrection.

I was murdered
I was in a tomb
Do not touch me,
for I have not yet ascended to My Father.

"With glory He has risen from the tomb",
Go and tell this good news to My disciples

MALAYALAM TRANSLITERATION (MA NGLISH)

O Mariyame! Njaan thottakkaran thanne
Njaan Parudeesaye stapichool sreshtan
O Mariyame! Njaan jeevikal tan jeevantaan
Punarujeevana-mod-ezhunnelppum Njaan tan
Njaan kollappettoon
Njaan kallarayaarnnon
thotteedarute Njaan
Taatandika meerittilla
Mahimayoda kabaree-nnazhunneett-nenneevam
sishyarodaayi ni suvisheshikka
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 23, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Again in Malayalam, this is part of a hymn by St. Jacob of Serugh that is sung during the washing of the feet on Holy Thursday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_0xsFCW0ns


This is the English translation provided with the video:

Simon Peter said: "I pray that I may be yours,
Wash not just my feet, wash my hands and head too.
If I cannot be Your disciple without being washed,
O Lord God, wash me completely.
Let me never loose my unity with You,
Wash me completely."

Gabriel and the angels bow down and cover their faces,
Saying: "Are You washing the feet of Simon?
Though You humbled yourself, prepared to serve,
why do You show this kind of humility to men,
O Son of God!"

Lord! the earth and heaven grieved at Your suffering.
Men and Angels were amazed at Your humility.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 25, 2010, 09:08:56 PM
With the feast day of St. Moses the Strong coming up, I thought I would link to a glorification hymn for him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWsI-n-TPBo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 29, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
This is a hymn in the Coptic language, but it comes with English and Arabic translations.  It mentions all the angels and many saints:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uddcg7F5ZVs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 11, 2010, 11:56:51 PM
The Nicene Creed chanted in Armenian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fwitheddie&v=YkVSoEE2pCU&feature=player_profilepage
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 20, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
I can't resist putting these kids on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDevRSibiQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on July 21, 2010, 04:52:22 AM
hey i cant download any indian songs pls help
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 22, 2010, 02:32:15 AM
Does anyone know where to download any Indian hymns?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: surajiype on July 26, 2010, 03:22:18 AM
The best place to view and to download Malankara liturgical music would be youtube.  Some downloadable music is here
http://malankaraorthodoxchurch.in/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=204&catid=39

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 26, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
Thank you!   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on August 03, 2010, 01:49:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Andrew21091 on August 03, 2010, 02:40:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g)

Beautiful! I love it!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on August 05, 2010, 10:33:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml1nXkUUa0g)

Beautiful! I love it!
Thank you.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 07, 2010, 11:08:40 AM
There is a new set of CD's for the Rite and Hymns of the Glorification Service in the Coptic Church:

http://www.copticheritage.org/Productions_glorificationservice.phtml
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on August 09, 2010, 03:42:33 PM
There is a new set of CD's for the Rite and Hymns of the Glorification Service in the Coptic Church:

http://www.copticheritage.org/Productions_glorificationservice.phtml

The Video Ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0RXMwbq2Os
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on August 13, 2010, 01:29:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8isDywNHHXI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8isDywNHHXI&feature=related)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 18, 2010, 09:53:56 PM
A Malayalam hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D357XSp8_cI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on August 19, 2010, 10:22:39 AM
This is a spritual song entitled "Sebhat"([Thanking God for creating us to worship Him. Thanking Mary, mother of the Lord Jesus. And giving thanks for the cross on which Christ was crucified.) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8NwrsDkzfg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8NwrsDkzfg)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on August 19, 2010, 01:10:14 PM
I'd like to share with you a hymn from a priest I learned the Church hymns from.  He is probably my favorite priest I'd love to hear to chant.  I like a strong voice and if possible with high tones.  I personally pray the same way, and I personally would get bored when I go to Coptic churches where deacons insist on a very low tone of chanting.  I know perhaps this shouldn't be the case, but since my childhood I was brought in Fr. David Bebawy's way of chanting, and forever am I attracted to it, since my vocal cords can also handle it (I guess since it was trained in it).

Anyway, without further ado, here's one example of Fr. David Bebawy chanting "Praise of the Three Youth" (Praise Him and Exalt Him Above All).  I'm not sure if someone posted it earlier in this thread, but this is one hymn chanted by Fr. David with a high tone that I love very much.  Just imagine praying tasbeha with this man:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Praises%2FMidnight_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2C_Coptic_Midnight_Praises%2FPart_1%2Ftrack09.417.mp3

And here's the hymn that is sung before the "Praise of the Three Youth:"

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Praises%2FMidnight_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2C_Coptic_Midnight_Praises%2FPart_1%2Ftrack08.416.mp3
(there's a part cut in the middle)

Fr. David is also known for his very articulate way in using the cymbals; this is a simple way (for him), but there are more articulate ways he uses the cymbals such as the Morning Praises in the first Joyful Tone:

http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?s=Praises%2FMorning_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2FJoy01.mp3
(he gives instructions before he begins in Arabic)

Lyrics here:
http://www.alhan.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=57

God bless.

Bringing back Fr. David Bebawy to the forefront, here's a video of him singing an Arabic spiritual song about the Annunciation of the Virgin Theotokos:
http://vodpod.com/watch/2020940-song-about-st-marys-annunciation
And since this is also a marriage season in the Church, here he is with his powerful high-toned voice chanting the Wedding Gospel:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2381853851932325114#
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 10, 2010, 10:47:41 PM
Coptic Hymn:  Je nai nan - Have mercy - جي ناي نان

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfFQi4HVvbo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: hailemaryam on September 13, 2010, 06:29:52 AM
Could anyone tell me if there are any sites online where I can find music from the Oriental Orthodox Church?  Thanks
A song on Feast of Transfiguration, with the Ancient Traditional Church Schooling theme, showing scholars on exercise,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJj3vwob3k&feature=player_embedded#!
A well organized song/intact with its ancient melody/ can be found from Mahibere Selam, or Mahibere Kidusan CDs/youtube searches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKTrdhcvc4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtHoKFuLqZ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixd2uQJ2bGM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi8I82XB2S8&feature=related
with Ancient King David's Harp/10 strings psaltery/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rotv9cIJbg8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDpGXVnNEJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkPUZHfLUxo&feature=related






Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on September 14, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
This hymn is sung in the Armenian Church on Holy Thursday and tells of Christ washing the feet of His Apostles:



http://youtube.com/watch?v=S87KgPfu1UI

It sounds more similar to Russian chant than most Armenian chant I have heard. Do you hear it? Could you explain why?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: deusveritasest on September 14, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
A prayer of St. Gregory of Nareg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgiAL5h_oYM&feature=channel

This is so beautiful.  ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 15, 2010, 08:03:11 PM
This hymn is sung in the Armenian Church on Holy Thursday and tells of Christ washing the feet of His Apostles:



http://youtube.com/watch?v=S87KgPfu1UI

It sounds more similar to Russian chant than most Armenian chant I have heard. Do you hear it? Could you explain why?

I've heard Russian chant, but I guess I don't really know enough about it to hear the similarity.  To me the hymn just sound Armenian.  Maybe the Russians were influenced by us.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on September 17, 2010, 06:40:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/02kazak?feature=mhum#p/u/0/tM7ujACR8bQ

Malayalam intercessory song to St Gregorious of Parumala.
The song is taken from a CD which was released from our parish itself, and i uploaded it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on September 17, 2010, 10:38:29 AM
Wedding songs of Malankara Orthodox/Jacobite Syrian Churches ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KTpzrybOo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHn1KUV90bE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn4JSezTa-k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q4ub4gcCVE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFdfDqSVGdc&feature=related



Title: Deyroyo Samuel Issa
Post by: Brigidsboy on October 10, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
A gem from the Syriac Tradition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhazr7Evrbo&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhazr7Evrbo&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: hailemaryam on October 24, 2010, 06:38:17 PM
My special invitation for all, the Ethiopian Seatat, the most lovely hymn in the Church Services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxZgQh4B-8

Enjoy it
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2010, 11:29:17 PM
My special invitation for all, the Ethiopian Seatat, the most lovely hymn in the Church Services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxZgQh4B-8

Enjoy it

Absolutely beautiful! 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 15, 2010, 11:30:12 PM
Here is someone playing the organ and singing in an Armenian Church in Canada:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnq9HQ2a-nQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on November 16, 2010, 04:09:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HFL5mVt_Zo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HFL5mVt_Zo)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on November 22, 2010, 04:40:58 AM
this is Ethiopian
http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/churchmusic/mezmuretewhedo/series.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 04, 2010, 01:20:45 PM
A hymn in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVrI8qbdRPo

This is the description that goes with it:


This is the Malayalam translation of the Syriac hymn by Mor Jacob of Serugh, that is sung during the verpers on the feast of the Nativity of our Lord (Christmas).
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
-----------------------------------
Sing Halleluiah!
as the shepherds sang in Bethlehem.

Come and see,
the one who dwells in the chariots of heaven,
being carried in the hands of the virgin.

The one who is glorified by Gabriel and the angels,
is being carried in the hand of Joseph.

Glory to Thee:
whose praise fills the heavens
and who brought peace and joy to earth by his incarnation.

Glory to the one, who brought gratification in all directions by his incarnation,
and to the Father who send him, and to the Holy Spirit.

Sing Halleluiah!
as the shepherds sang in Bethlehem.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on December 04, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Wonderful footage of A Syriac Orthodox Service from Jerusalem.

http://vimeo.com/6572881 (http://vimeo.com/6572881)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on December 10, 2010, 12:30:44 PM
wow thnx a lot Brigidsboy ! The tune is so different in malayalam..
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on December 16, 2010, 12:45:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4tlI88W0U
Kadheeshaat Aaloho
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: abdedaloho on December 17, 2010, 06:55:11 PM
Shlomo !!!

I am quite new here.. This is first posting I am making here. I am Syrian Orthodox from India. Great to be a part of this community.

Below provided is hymns in Syriac and malayalam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNaYQovgUz4&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 17, 2010, 10:26:04 PM
Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: abdedaloho on December 18, 2010, 07:30:57 PM
Shlomo !!!

Thank you Salpy.

Below given is the hymn sung in the Syrian orthodox Church prior to the commencement of the public celeberation of the divine Liturgy. The hymn was composed by Late Mor Gregorios Geevarghese ( Perumbilly ) who was a master of Beth Gazo - the Syriac liturgical music. This is one of the hymns I love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAEoAqhveGg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: abdedaloho on December 18, 2010, 07:47:07 PM
Below is the first stanza of the Kukiliyon ( Prayers of incense ) being sung in the eight different tunes / melodies as stipulated in the Syriac liturgical music. Syrians use a system of eight melodies called the "oktoechos" in singing hymns, based on combinations of four elements namely heat, cold, humidity, and drought. They observed that the first and fifth develop a sensation of heat and humidity. The second and sixth increase cold and humidity, the third and seventh heat and drought, and the fourth and eighth cold and drought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8M26KZtg38&translated=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on December 20, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
Just adding a few more Syriac Othodox Songs, I too am an admirer of the beautiful music in my church, too bad my voice is terrible =p

A Syriac Song after the Holy Qurbono; Balkim Thetumal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajfAM3OSbqI

One of my favourite songs during the wedding ceremony Sundharikalil Athi Sundhari Nee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KTpzrybOo

The songs sung during the Intercession to St. Mary, the first one is my personal favourite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w11Um21h_FE

A prayer written by Mor Ephrem for the night time, Karthave Kripa Cheyyaname
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWLXeG4_V0

Our Father ( Abun d Bashmayo) sung by world famous singer Abeer Nehme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zPKQNetK1Y
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on December 20, 2010, 10:49:57 AM
Hail Mary (Shlom Lech Maryam) in Syriac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7MyqXdjhVA

A syriac song, I am the true light (Enono Nuhro Shariro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjxpxH0RE8

Wa habibi a Good Friday song in Arabic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGUVmgLX1M

The same song in Syriac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aIEHPM2mw

A more knowledgable person correct me if im wrong, but I believe this is the Malayalam version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8SXj-Sh2c
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on December 20, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
The Christmas Prayers for the Morning in Malayalam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4sQFZXnoQw

A song from the evening prayers of the Christmas service in Malayalam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeccYEXYjbg

A song from the Midnight prayers of the Christmas service in Malaylam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZ0nDYql7U
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on December 23, 2010, 01:53:18 PM
Paslti boy and anyone else interested,

The best of Coptic chant and music is scarce on the internet. I have been to just about every known site and 75% of what I have found is quite low quality, in terms of recording and voice. Most of the files on the net better serve the interests of one who seeks to learn Coptic chant/music, rather than one who seeks to enjoy Coptic chant/music in my opinion. If you want the gems, just ask me; I will gladly direct you to the best quality recordings on the net, and upload those you will never find on the net.

Here is one of my favourites that I have uploaded from a CD I own; it's the Goodfriday hymn Omonogenis chanted in Arabic:
http://www11.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=26921

The link does not provide a hymn.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 28, 2010, 12:03:08 AM
A beautiful Christmas Eve hymn at a Malankara Orthodox Church in Houston:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPwgMdWAF0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on December 28, 2010, 02:44:06 AM
A beautiful Christmas Eve hymn at a Malankara Orthodox Church in Houston:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPwgMdWAF0

This is the same song + Kadishat Aloho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syhd4gAXBRo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: abdedaloho on December 30, 2010, 03:14:28 PM
Syrian Orthodox Prayer hymns for the departed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipxTN8AhJk

God Bless !!!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on December 30, 2010, 11:53:22 PM
Syrian Orthodox Prayer hymns for the departed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipxTN8AhJk

God Bless !!!
Can you please provide an english translation.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 31, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Syrian Orthodox Prayer hymns for the departed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipxTN8AhJk

God Bless !!!
Can you please provide an english translation.

...and a transliteration as well...that was beautiful; I personally like to learn how to say this.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 17, 2011, 01:02:47 AM
A Christmas mezmur from Ethiopia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzhvX_iXEw
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on January 20, 2011, 06:13:24 PM
The Precise Order of Chanting 'Shudhan Nee Aaloho' - Tone 1 in Syriac
(Kadheeshath Aaloho) from the Syriac (Jacobite) Orthodox Liturgy.

(This tune is sung only during the evening worship)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GP5T3YOZs&hd=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on January 21, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
Enameseginehalene(We thank You.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzGNZ4oI0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzGNZ4oI0U)
This is just one chorus from the song:
His voice wake us up from the holy mountain
Yared's sistrum, 'mesenko', harp
Zion 'daughters' rise for 'mezmur'
Say holy and triune; praise His name
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on January 21, 2011, 05:32:30 PM
A Christmas mezmur from Ethiopia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzhvX_iXEw
Salpy, do you hear Amharic?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 21, 2011, 11:05:47 PM
I really don't know what language the mezmur is in.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on January 22, 2011, 07:59:46 AM
hi
 
 MEZMUR means (in GEEZ  the language of the Ethiopian orthodox church) spiritual song
or giving praise through the use of music or hym   
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 22, 2011, 07:31:31 PM
An Armenian Epiphany hymn is now available for download at Erkohet.com:

http://erkohet.com/index.php/audio#ovzarmanali
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on January 25, 2011, 07:55:49 AM
I really don't know what language the mezmur is in.

The word klezmer comes from the Hebrew words kle, vessel or instrument, and zemer which means song.

since the ethiopian language is semitic it is related to mezmur (amharic/geez)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on January 25, 2011, 08:04:07 AM
An Armenian Epiphany hymn is now available for download at Erkohet.com:

http://erkohet.com/index.php/audio#ovzarmanali


is this an orthodox site (church)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on January 25, 2011, 08:48:34 AM
An Armenian Epiphany hymn is now available for download at Erkohet.com:

http://erkohet.com/index.php/audio#ovzarmanali


is this an orthodox site (church)



sorry i was not aware
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Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on January 25, 2011, 08:50:15 AM
why is it that it has no Ethiopian and Indian songs

 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 25, 2011, 10:28:35 PM
The site is relatively new and its owner is most likely still looking for Indian and Ethiopian contributors. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on January 27, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
The site is relatively new and its owner is most likely still looking for Indian and Ethiopian contributors. 

I have the entire Holy Qurbono from a CD I purchased in India, I also have a few songs from the Passion Week services in Malayalam. Can someone tell me how to upload these to Erkohet?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 27, 2011, 10:41:42 PM
You may want to contact the owner of the site:

http://erkohet.com/index.php/contact

Let him know that you are willing to work with him on getting resources from your tradition.  I would think he would be happy to have the help.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on January 27, 2011, 11:26:51 PM
actually, it would be nice if there was an OO hymns website that can compile all the hymns of every OO Church, comparable to the coptichymns.net website.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on February 02, 2011, 03:05:36 PM
Tewodros's Yosef mezmur about St. Mary how she adds 'beauty' to our 'house':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzGNZ4oI0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzzGNZ4oI0U)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Elijah on February 04, 2011, 02:34:53 PM
This one is about how incredible His grace is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmlbp8FR18g&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmlbp8FR18g&feature=related)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on February 05, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
I have the entire Holy Qurbono from a CD I purchased in India, I also have a few songs from the Passion Week services in Malayalam. Can someone tell me how to upload these to Erkohet?
Most of the CD's that you can purchase in India, creates a fusion of Orthodox Chanting and pop music. There are very few CD's brought out with Orthodox Chanting in its pure form with no fusion with pop music. If you have Orthodox Chanting CD's in its pure form, then its worth sharing.
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Post by: kazakage on February 08, 2011, 11:27:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9JQBzFJ5uU

Malankara Orthodox Song in English.. :)         
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on February 08, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
The Precise Order of Chanting 'Shudhan Nee Aaloho' - Tone 1 in Syriac
(Kadheeshath Aaloho) from the Syriac (Jacobite) Orthodox Liturgy.

(This tune is sung only during the evening worship)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GP5T3YOZs&hd=1

I had posted the same song with the original link. It was sung by Roy Achen  (OrthodoxPraises) ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on February 10, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
A popular contemporary ode of the Coptic Church:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXDbm1l4iAc

One of my favourite Coptic Marian hymns (typically chanted as part of the Midnight Praise services during the Coptic month of Kiahk):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TyW_fgOLp0

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 13, 2011, 01:15:51 AM
On this deacon's blog, you can hear a hymn from the Armenian ordination rite.  He recorded it during the consecration of three bishops:

http://www.mattash.com/post/530818851/this-hymn-is-sung-during-the-ordination-rite-of
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 08, 2011, 11:40:37 PM
A Coptic Communion hymn for Lent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9f9DwfindY
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on March 09, 2011, 03:56:32 AM
Today is the feast day of Pope Kyrillos VI, one of today's most popular and potent intercessors amongst the Copts.

A sweet non-liturgical doxology for the Saint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG18WqrzhVQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 09, 2011, 10:53:29 PM
Today is the feast day of Pope Kyrillos VI, one of today's most popular and potent intercessors amongst the Copts.

A sweet non-liturgical doxology for the Saint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG18WqrzhVQ

I have to say, I'm usually not a fan of music made for spiritual songs, but this was awesome, and the singer's voice is beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: binoj on March 12, 2011, 01:02:15 AM
Are there any recordings of complete and live Indian Orthodox Liturgies in english that can be downloaded online?

EkhristosAnesti:

Two youtube links that I found useful. It is celebrated by a priest who was born and brought up here. It is only small portion of the liturgy. But unfortunately I could not find full recording of the Holy Qurbano (Eucharist)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utMP5z4_SeI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNE8URlONIk

Thanks,

Binoj
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 21, 2011, 01:30:01 AM
Sunday Psali for the Lord said by the monks of the Sourian Monastery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUwBexzGDjA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 23, 2011, 10:31:09 PM
Armenian hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFSvQ90H_6g
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 27, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
An Ethiopian mezmur about the Holy Mother of God: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TkR-TAx5kc

The video accompanying it has some beautiful icons of her.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 03, 2011, 07:11:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPEktdjoT0


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This is the chanting of Psalm (Mezmur) 91 and 121 in Malayalam. These two psalms are chanted as part of the Soothara (Bedtime) prayers of the Syriac Orthodox Church.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: kazakage on April 08, 2011, 01:00:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YZNgQrJKyE

A small clip showing the various churches of both Malankara Orthodox and Malankara Jacobite churches. :)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on April 08, 2011, 08:26:43 PM
is this an ORTHODOX SONG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf4IErOE_gQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on April 08, 2011, 08:34:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjP7bK99qsc&feature=related
I MEANT THIS
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: NIKODIMOSETHIO on April 09, 2011, 07:48:02 PM
sorry guys the address is as follows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjP7bK99qsc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on April 12, 2011, 01:37:36 AM
Coptic hymn sung during Holy Week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb_ITZ_vNWM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on April 19, 2011, 02:37:55 AM
An English rendition of the Coptic/Greek hymn of Evlogimenos by the Coptic Pop group "Trinity", chanted in Palm Sunday and in the presence of the entrance of the Pope into the Church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIpBrXJ3Kjo&feature=related

In its original language, by the "Elshahid Abu Fam" group in Egypt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2Ul8pIHNI&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 03, 2011, 12:03:53 AM
Some chanting and prayers for mercy in an Eritrean Orthodox church on Good Friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fqll6DpUFE

About 13 minutes into the video, there is a procession.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 22, 2011, 10:17:31 PM
A Syriac hymn about the Nativity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldc5gWL1xN0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 23, 2011, 01:32:20 AM
A Syriac hymn sung during Lent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hklgRC23Y&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 03, 2011, 06:46:25 PM
If I recall correctly, this hymn is sung at Theophany in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ru4fQOmkTc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: jobin219 on June 03, 2011, 11:08:37 PM
This is the chanting of Psalm (Mezmur) 91 and 121 in Malayalam. These two psalms are chanted as part of the Soothara (Bedtime) prayers of the Syriac Orthodox Church.  ;D

http://youtu.be/qLPEktdjoT0 (http://youtu.be/qLPEktdjoT0)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 06, 2011, 12:54:06 AM
Syriac hymn, "Basali":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIx0Q6il8U
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on June 06, 2011, 08:23:54 AM
This thread is wonderful. Thank you all so much.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 23, 2011, 12:15:20 PM
I guess someone who went to an Armenian wedding recently decided to record some of the hymns.  Some of the recordings are pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JocjUf7gnb4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3i-RKLS8tQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on June 23, 2011, 01:40:28 PM
Beautiful, but all the zoom shots at the ceiling in the second vid are kind of annoying lol.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on June 23, 2011, 01:57:54 PM
A Syriac lady singing the Our Father in Aramaic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84yb1PQRTUE&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Aram on July 12, 2011, 01:49:44 AM
If I recall correctly, this hymn is sung at Theophany in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ru4fQOmkTc
This is from Holy Thursday.  Very beginning of the Vodnlva (Feet Washing) service.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 12, 2011, 01:53:12 AM
Thanks.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 15, 2011, 03:15:16 AM
Christ is Risen!
Hello everybody this is my first time in here, I thought I might share one hymn from you tube in here with the translation that I did the best I could. The singer's name is zerfe kebede,may the Lord bless her and keep her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7KcicFq_YE&feature=related

My nard( type of perfume) is my Redeemer and He has captured my heart with the sweetness of His  scent
Having seen the piercing of His hands I left all and followed Him.(2x)

I have no sleep for my eyes, and my tears have bathed my face
I have woken up in the middle of the night and I am out in search of my beloved.

My nard.....

You are the rose of saron that I found in the desert
I am sick for Your love; I am healed with Your cross

My nard....

 Surpassing the mountains, encompassing the horizons
Just when the sun started to set and as the evening approached Your love summoned me my Lord.

My nard....

His left arm made me rest in peace, with His right arm He snatched me from death and embraced me.
I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine , who can take me away from the King!

My nard...
-------->>-------
this is it for today, untill next time my dears :)
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Aidan on July 15, 2011, 03:53:51 AM
Thanks for the translation.

The music is surpassingly beautiful and sublime.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 15, 2011, 08:32:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQE-78WaXE
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 15, 2011, 04:22:26 PM
Christ is Risen!
you are most welcome Aidan. Dear Volnutt, I saw you posted Mirtneshe's hymn so I tried to translate that one as well so others can enjoy it too. I ask all to keep in mind that english is not my first language  ;D
This hymn refers to the individual Christian and then the experience of the suffering Ethiopian church collectively, it is both melancholic and joyful at the same time as most orthodox hymns are :) I pray its edifying beauty comes forth .


There is no one like You for me O Lord
Your Love O Lord has touched my heart
I learnt to meditate on Your commandments as a babe
O Lord ,only You remain as You Are, only You remain the same.(x2)

May my boat serve You to teach
May my heart hear Your words only
Though the day has turned into night
The fish still heard Your command.

There is no one like You……

You are my beloved, You are my glory
Yours is my house ,Yours is my body
You have leveled the mountain beneath my feet
Do not stop Your help so I may not fear, so I may not die.

There is no one like You……


I regret the days I have lived without knowing You
Lo! Such love that You are, sweeter than the sweetness of honey!
What life is there other than You?!

There is no one like You……

You have slain our slayer
Helped us pass those days of suffering
We know Yours is tomorrow the new day also
So we cleave to You and with longing hearts sing Your Glory!

There is no one like You……
……………..>><<…………..
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 15, 2011, 04:24:25 PM
It's very Psalm-like, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Iconodule on July 15, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
Is there any place where one can purchase CD's by Mirtinesh or other mezmur artists?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 19, 2011, 06:28:11 AM
A Mezmur about the Theotokos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd-VP_SA7FU&NR=1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 19, 2011, 10:12:57 PM
Christ is Risen!
Iconodule, I do not know if there is any credible online store you can get those CDs but if u know any ethiopian stores you might want to look for them in there.however u can easily listen to most of the hymns online from youtube, or other church websites.
Hello Volnutt, this one you posted is realy one of my favorites.With this mezmur I feel its necessary to include a brief explanation of the accompanying video clip, it depicts the ‘abenet’ school /  in these schools the church students from all over the country come to learn writing, reading , memorizing scripture starting with the psalms and the gospel ,holy liturgy  and other prayers of the church, the understanding ,deciphering and creating the poetic renderings done in the geez language. The church music with its various levels, theology of the church, the dogmas and cannons , the teachings of the church fathers, etc.  as you can see the traditional way of how the church managed to pass on the faith and holy tradition has not changed much. Most of those students have traveled great distances left their home towns to come and settle near the school. each day they rely on the nearby Christian households for their daily food. Usually the students travel two by two, into villages and when they come near a household, they use the most loved and revered name, a name invoked at the birth of every Ethiopian Muslim or Christian, to ask for whatever that household is capable of giving. ‘ be ente sima le maryam, tezekerun’ / in the name of Mary, remember us/   this way of asking for help is an identifying mark of those students ,this will get them the support they need , be it water, flour, spices, the traditional Ethiopian bread, whatever stew is available, whatever grain they have sometimes even shelter from the elements. Their tradition is to bring what they have together and share it with those who did not get enough for that day. If it takes a village to raise a child, it definitely takes a village in Ethiopia to send them to the school of the Orthodox Church to become servants of the church. The care of those students is entrusted to the Theotokos as each of them leaves the safety of their parents home. The villagers see the caring for those who are under her protection a blessing and a Christian duity. The life of the students is not an easy one, it’s filled with trials that test their determination to finish school, and mature in the spiritual life and sometimes the danger extends even to their physical safety as they travel from village to village. The attempt to improve the present condition of the abenet schools is an ongoing effort with in the church.
 now I have atempted to translate the hymn.. so it goes like this.

I don’t get enough of calling your name, I take you wherever I go, you nurture my soul.
Come enter my house and your praise be abundant in me./2x/

You are the inheritance of the saints, O city of our God.
Glorious refuge of those in need.
Bless me my dear mother with your love
 And may my soul be the fountain of your praise.

I don’t get enough of calling your name…./2x/
   
 In you is written the word of our freedom
You are the tablet of the alphabet of life and your teaching is holiness.
No one created is able to contemplate the depth of your mystery.
The beauty of your name lingers in the heart forever.

I don’t get enough of calling your name…./2x/

In the solitude of my exile
I found blessed company in you and light in the midnight hour
You rekindled my hope, and quenched my thirst
Filled my humble abode with the abundance of your blessing.

I don’t get enough of calling your name…./2x/


With the sweetness of your name and your loving kindness
You are my comfort in my hour of sadness
In you the peace of the world is initiated
And you never abandon those that suffer through the storm of time.

I don’t get enough of calling your name…./2x/
.........>>.........
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 20, 2011, 12:20:01 AM
That's amazing. I'm glad that they are keeping such traditions alive.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 20, 2011, 01:20:28 AM
What is the bowing with all the staffs called? This mezmur is so beautiful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJj3vwob3k
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on July 20, 2011, 04:19:57 AM
Great Friday in the Syriac Cathedral in Burbank, CA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VvOTsXRyk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VvOTsXRyk)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 20, 2011, 03:51:17 PM
I like it!

What is the box with the roses behind the Cross?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 27, 2011, 12:16:17 AM
Christ is Risen!
Greetings Volnutt , very briefly (because there is a lot of symbolism that is integrated within it)I will try to explain .what you are seeing and hearing is called ‘wereb’ the way they are moving is called ‘shibsheba’ . It’s usually done with two groups facing each other,( although it can be done in groups of three or four also; they all have their own symbolisms) one group representing the angels the second humanity both praising God together. If the place has an elevated area like you are seeing on the video those on the highest plane represent the angles those on the lower plane represent the humans, because of the Incarnation of the Logos this new song this new union of praise of the two races ascends to the throne of the Triune God. This alignment is what is most often preferred when wereb is done to commemorate that restoration of the children of Adam among the celestial Choir that praises God without ceasing. This restoration is symbolized in the way they move during ‘shibesheba’ .  It’s a constant movement from left to right as it is a constant joyful testimony and thanksgiving for what Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has done for us. Christ has taken Adam from death to life, from shame to glory, from hell to paradise. There is a lot of bowing symbolizing the passion of our Lord, The journey to Golgotha carrying His cross all for the love of mankind. There is the victorious joyous bowing of all humanity renewed in the Risen Christ to the Triune God. God willing I might be able to add few things to this discussion. Until then, here is the wereb and what it means roughly translated , I am only sorry that someone else did not do this particular translation because I feel I have not kept the poetic beauty of this wereb. Because most werebs are short poetic bundles who make a play of words holding vast meaning in them, well in any case this is the best I could do.

Deber tilul,wedebir regu’e lemint yitenese’u adbar regu’ane / debir zesemru yehadir westetu egziabeher aman tesebeha bedebre tabor, aman be aman /2/ tesebeha bedebere tabor.

 It is a steady and fruitful (fertile) mountain, but why mention (raise?) the steady mountains, because it’s this mountain God chose to dwell in. indeed! truly! He is glorified on Mount Tabor. Truly, truly He is Glorified on Mount Tabor.

Aman be aman
Tesebeha bedebre tabor

Truly ,truly, He is Glorified on Mount Tabor!
Truly Glorified!
On Mount Tabor!
…….>>….
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.


   

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 27, 2011, 12:49:01 AM
Wow. Thanks.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on July 27, 2011, 01:00:39 AM
I like it!

What is the box with the roses behind the Cross?

It represents the tomb of Christ. A small wooden cross is wrapped in fine linen and placed within it. It is carried in a procession around the church at the conclusion of the service.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 27, 2011, 01:04:45 AM
I thought it was. Thanks.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on July 27, 2011, 05:40:51 PM
I thought it was. Thanks.

Here is a more recent version. Unfortunately the cameraman had technical difficulties but the resolution is much better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gkzu4NOT-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gkzu4NOT-o)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 29, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Nice montage of Indian Orthodox pictures set to music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RyM8p8g4fA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 31, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
Christ is Risen!
I think this is so beautiful, God bless the Armenians, and the Syrians who are sharing this beauty with us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKBtb3zZhOE

the priest's version is also so so beautiful, ever since i found this on you tube,I like to listen to it often, but especialy at the end of a stressful or rather long day, both the prayer and the way it is being prayed here just  comforts and reassures me that God is in control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7asymfkO4&feature=related

Again thank God for those who shared this with us!


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on July 31, 2011, 02:53:28 PM
Very nice! Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 31, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
Christ is Risen!
After the great lent, the fast that is cherished by all members of the church, is the fast of the Assumption of the Body of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In Ethiopia because school is closed at this time millions of orthodox youth flock to the monasteries all over the country for the entire time of the fast. and those who remain in the cities most leave the comfort of their beds and sleep on the floors, observe strict dietary restrictions, and attend ‘seatat’ the midnight prayer of the church as well as the Divine Liturgy done at mid day during week days and in the morning during the weekends. The children that come to the Divine Liturgy are so many that in order to be done on reasonable time the Holy Eucharist is given on one day for boys and the next for girls, it is at this time that most children get to learn a lot about their faith, the Traditions of the church, while fasting, and attending the Divine Liturgy they get to smell the incense, they see the holy icons, they hear of the Love and Mercy of God through the prayers of the church and when the Holy Scriptures are read, they experience the, the bells , the candles, the thousands of Christians around them, all asking the intercession of The Theotokos asking her to come among them with her Beloved Son Jesus Christ and bless them.  My most found memories of my experience within the church as a child are during this fast period. I think children need to participate in the Church services, when they experience it, when they understand it, when they are familiar with it, love is easily nurtured, and that love I think helps one to stay anchored in the orthodox way. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kklioVrL4kI&feature=related

Here is one part of the midnight prayer of the church, ‘ ne’ei ha’bene O  dingil mis’ele weledeki fikure’ki Iyesus Christos, keme tibareki la’elene’.
‘Come to us O Virgin, along with your beloved Son Jesus Christ, and bless us.’

This particular prayer is accompanied with a solemn ritual, it is done in a group of two and when one group says the first prayer, the other group prostrates themselves and pray the prayer of Mary known as ‘the magnificat’ it starts with ‘ selam lehki enze nisegid nibleki O Maryam nastebetsuaki emarewe neawi temahetsene beki , be ente Hanna emeki we Iyakhem abuki mahebere neyom dingil bareki’  we prostrate ourselves and say peace be unto you O Mary, and bless  your name,  in you we seek protection from the beast that hunts us , for the sake of your mother Hanna, and your father Joachim  we ask you Virgin to bless our assembly. Then comes the prayer St Mary prayed in Luke:1 :46-54. As that group finishes that prayer they get up at the same time the other group would be prostrating and the prayer continues...

Blessed day everyone
 Glory be to the Father and to the Son and the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 02, 2011, 01:42:49 AM
Christ is Risen!
Dn.Theodoros's mezmur

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRV1le7tJA&feature=related


The tides rose against me
The storm came after me
And those who sow said who will rescue him now!
But I escaped in peace and stillness
Because all things are possible with you O Lord.

I am healed with your wounds
I am a captive of your love
You trampled down my death by your death
And behold you raised me up to Life.
The tides…

When I came before you in prayer of supplication
You did not reject me
I humbled myself like the tax collector
And your grace and mercy sheltered me
The tides..

If I am ever shouting for joy and singing
It's because I know your love
If I am ever calling your name Lord
It's because you have changed the story of my life.
The tides..

My eyes cannot see any other than you
For you are captivating and adorable
You became my family, you became my relative
For surely who else could bare to be with me?
The tides..

blessed day.. :)
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever until the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 07, 2011, 05:14:41 AM
Christ is Risen!

Selam everyone :)
Another mezmur by Dn. Theodoros ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax9c1LAxo3I

In The Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, One God! Amen.
Be Vigilant and Pray so you may not enter into temptation. Mathew 26:41

Let us be vigilant and pray so we may not enter into temptation
Let God enter our lives and all our assemblies
 By prostrating ourselves in prayer to our Father 
Let us be girdled with might.
So we may live in grace and our adversary will be driven away.

Rise Up for Prayer!
Let us be Vigilant and Pray…….

Remember we are in the middle of the battle field
And our enemy’s legion is fully armed.
O how many among us he has stricken down finding us unarmed.
We have run out of oil , and the light of our lanterns grows dim.
How can we see the enemy’s fortress if we abandon the light?

Rise Up for Prayer!
Let us be Vigilant and Pray…….

The Lord will lean His ears towards us
He will smite the enemy
He will break his snare and will save us those who trust in Him.
He will lead us into the green pastures restoring our Hope.
Who is known to be ashamed after calling on the Name of God.!?

Rise Up for Prayer!
Let us be Vigilant and Pray…….

For He is the Oil of Glory poured on the wounded
 Healing to the world and is given without payment.
The Father of Love will open His gates when we knock
He will bless us giving us what we seek.

Rise Up for Prayer!
Let us be Vigilant and Pray…….

........//........
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 09, 2011, 10:15:18 AM
Christ is Risen!

Selam everyone :)
Dn.Theodoros Yossef's mezmur..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo-ozRFOyAk&feature=related



Until we see your resurrection O Virgin
We are holding vigil and will fast united in Spirit.
Until it is revealed to us the truth that Thomas saw.
We will not leave from your gates O Covenant of Mercy!

He that trampled down death: Your Son is with You!
So which grave can hold You in ?
From Thomas we heard news of Your Assumption
Your resurrection is true indeed; we saw Your Burial Shawl.
 
For death is already defeated by death
thus had no power over You!
We wanted to see the glory Thomas saw
Mystified why this mystery was hidden from us
Closing our doors we are prostrated in prayer
Reveal yourself and shine your light upon us
For Your children we long to see You!

For death is already defeated by death
Thus had no power over You!
Until we see your resurrection O Virgin
We are holding vigil and will fast united in spirit.
Until it is revealed to us the truth that Thomas saw.
We will not leave from your gates O Covenant of Mercy!

Your psalmist father David has written to us
Saying who among us will not see death?
Though in time this became true in You also
You did not descend in to the grave forever defeated by death!


For death is already defeated by death
Thus had no power over You!
Until we see your resurrection O Virgin
We are holding vigil and will fast united in spirit.
Until it is revealed to us the truth that Thomas saw.
We will not leave from your gates O Covenant of Mercy!

When Thomas descending from his chariot told us of this news
We were astounded by what has occurred.
Now we long to see this glory
O virgin intercede for us! O Covenant of Mercy!

For death is already defeated by death
Thus had no power over You!
Until we see your resurrection O Virgin
We are holding vigil and will fast united in spirit.
Until it is revealed to us the truth that Thomas saw.
We will not leave from your gates O Covenant of Mercy!


..............//.................

Blessed day :)

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.








Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 10, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
Christ is Risen!

Selam everyone:)

Harp mezmur by Sosena Gebre Iyesus, I am sorry I couldnot keep the poetic beauty , its more of a literal translation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV6gPW9uTmg

Our Creator is Goodness by His Essence
He is Forgiving, Merciful, Kind, Patient and Loving.
Though mankind sinned against Him
He came searching for him, and kept knocking at his door.

Our Lord was Born in a stable and saved us!

Summoned from His Throne by His love for mankind
He United Himself with flesh, O Uncontainable Glory!
While mankind was still the enemy filled with wickedness
To make him His family He United Himself with Man's flesh.

Our Lord was Born.

Mankind that was stripped of grace and glory
Is restored to his glory by the Love of The Creator
Finding him dwelling under the shadow of death
Heart filled with sorrow and lamentation
He wiped away his tears and gave him Life.

Our Lord was Born..

When God was Born in flesh from the Virgin
Grace was restored to Man.
Through the annunciation of Gabriel of His Birth of the Virgin
He made mankind heir to the heavenly kingdom.

Our Lord was Born.

So we won't die in vain, as we flee from Him
His birth became the Sign of Our reconciliation.
For He has taken our flesh and glorified us
Praise be unto Him for all eternity.
Our Lord was Born..
………..//……….
Blessed day  :)
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on August 10, 2011, 06:07:21 PM
I notice some youtube commenters got a bit angry about women playing the begena. Is that just a bit of cultural chauvinism or was it actually a Church prohibition?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 10, 2011, 06:56:13 PM
selam Volnutt :)

Ah! yes , that was dear old chauvinisim getting vented right there :) no such Church prohibition exists.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on August 10, 2011, 07:13:41 PM
selam Volnutt :)

Ah! yes , that was dear old chauvinisim getting vented right there :) no such Church prohibition exists.
Good to hear.  :)

God bless!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 10, 2011, 07:30:11 PM
Christ is Risen!
during fast seasons, no drums , or cymbals with the hymns we are going to listen to. instead its harps, other strings, and flutes only.
 so here is another harp mezmur this is a poetic form of the Our Father, and the Salutation of Mary. by Alemu Aga.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbWwjUsJxKg&feature=related

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 12, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
Christ is risen!
Selam everyone :)
I thought I would write the lyrics in Amharic too so if anyone is so inclined can join the zemari with the mezmur. Keep me in your prayers. the reading is from Psalm 142(3):9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uKR2NSPw8


Kezemenat befit ante neberek/    Before time was there You were
Hulun asalifeh tinoraleh/   After ending all You will remain.
Emqideme zemenat zemenawi /    Before time was there You were
Dehere zemen hadis Iyesus Nazerawi /    and after time ceases there you will be O Jesus the Nazarene


Kibreh genana new bante keberealehu/  You are exalted in Glory and I am glorified by You.
Zelalemawi  neh  bante enoralehu/  Your years have no end and I live by You.
Beselefu mekakel aleh kene gara/  in the midst of battle You are there with me.
Yeserawit geta etsub yante sira/ How marvelous is your work O Lord of Hosts!


Kezemenat befit…

Kelaye ke aryam ke zufaneh girma / on High above the heavens from the Glory of Your Throne
Qidus ale Kirub misgana tessema / the Cherubim are heard praising ‘Holy!’
Wudasse kebebew menberun eleleta’ / praise surround His throne and the sound of triumphant cymbals
Baryah lamesegeneh fiqedelegne getta / Grant me Your servant to praise You too O Lord!


Kezemenat befit….

Ye amalikt amlak yemimeseleh yelem / No one is like You, O God of gods
Ayene yayew hulu yalante alehonem / Nothing my eyes see is done without You.
Fitrete alemu genezebeh newena / Because all creation is Yours
Alphana Omega yidreseh misgana / To You belongs all praise O Alpha and Omega.


Kezemenat befit…

Yemidir hayalan ayeqomum befiteh / the mighty of the earth can’t stand against You
Yihen serah belo yelem yemiweqsih / No one can chastise You for the work of Your hands
Semayina midrin fetreh yemitegeza/ You are the Creator and Ruler of the Heaven and the Earth
Enamelekihalen  ye hiwotachin beza / our Redeemer we worship You!

Kezemenat befit….

………….///………..
Until next time, Selam :)

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on August 12, 2011, 10:51:01 PM
Amharic is a neat language.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 16, 2011, 05:06:41 PM
Christ is risen!
Selam everyone :) I think so too Volnutt ;D thanks.

Dn.Tewodros yoseph 's mezmur.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6D9oYVyfXc


People condemned me but You saved me/ sewoch feredubigne ante gin adankegne/2x/
my God May You be praised/ amlake hoye temesegeneligne
 my Lord May You be praised/ getaye hoy temesegeneligne
For I can only utter words of Your Praise/ lela min qal alegne

Those who did not want to ignore my flaws or cover my weakness/ liyalefugne yalewededu neqen liseweru
People were quick to talk about my sins / sewoch fetenubegne bedelen liyaweru
But You embraced and covered me with Your Love/ ante gin sebsebeh  befiqir  shefenkegne
You did not abandon me saddened by my transgressions/ bemetelalefe  azeneh  satileyegne
 this is the love that broke my attachment to sin and thus forever binds me to You./ yih  fiqreh
seberegne   atabeqegne  kante
And it summons me to your house every day./ dejeh  yametagnal  hule  iyegotete
 
Sewoch…….

Declaring me wretched sinner/ merkesen awejew
They picked their stones/siyanesubigne   dingay
Your miracle sheltered Your child from suffering/ seweregne  tamirih  lijih  saliseqayi
Because you chose to forgive me with Your love/ wedeh silemarekegne
Outrage filled the hearts of men/ bizuwoch tekezu
Demanding I perish for my sin/ yih ayedelem bilew ye hatiyat demozu
My Lord,Who knows me like You do / kante belaye geta man liyaweqegne yichilal
No one can tip the scale of Your Love/ yefiqrihin mizan   manis   yazabawal

Sewoch……
Your redemption is glorious for your fallen child/madaneh yidenqal lewedekut lijih
Your mercy weighs more on Your scale of justice at all times / meheretih  yidefal  hulem  bemizanih 
Indeed your justice is not like men’s/ indesew ayitayi firdihim yileyal
 You have judged in mercy for the freedom of Your servant./ lebariyah  arenet   bemiheret  ferdehal
Giving your love abundantly You straightened my way/ fiqr iyezerezerk megeneden yeterek
You judged for your child in righteousness for my salvation/ sile lijih tsedeqin le dehenet yeferedek

Sewoch….

You said ‘I will not condemn you go in peace.’/ ene aleferedebehim beselam hid alekegne
 So I won’t continue to sin, you kept your loving eyes ever on me./ dagim endalebedil befiqr iyayehegne
I will lift up my soul towards your righteous laws/ wede tsedeqih higoch nefsen afesalehu
If you love me like this where else would I go?!/ endih kewededekegne  wedet ehedalehu
I will not depart from you O Well of Love./ aleleyim ke ante kefiqir medereke
Prostrating myself I will Worship You./ amelkalehu anten fitih tenberekeke.

Sewoch….


Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.

Blessed day  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 17, 2011, 04:40:36 PM
Christ is Risen!
Selam everyone  :)

Again forgive the literal translation , obviously I am niether a poet nor is my vocabulary that plorific  :)

This mezmur speaks to those are acquainted with suffering..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIHWT4kyU_c&NR=1

Yezelalem Tesfa/ Everlasting Hope. By yilma

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

Besew zend bimuatet tesefana dessita/ Though hope and joy have gone from men.
Egnas fetari alen hulun yemireta/ But We have our God who will conquer all.
Tessfa endelelachew anehonim keto/ We will not be like those who have no hope
Kirstos alelin yemiyasay abereto/ We have Christ our Light who will shine for us.

Yaleqesu hulu yisiqalu ayiqerim/ Those who weep today shall be filled with joyful laughter
Yilewawetewal  geta  medehanealem/ For the Lord the Savior of the World will transform all
Manim yaletebeqew yalasebewin dil /A victory that men can’t imagine or expect
Legna lemesekinoch geta yisetenal /The Lord will give to us the lowly

besew zend...

Sewoch bitebebu genzeb lemesebseb/If men became wise only to gather money
Yitelalefalu baletebequt mereb /They will be entangled by a net they won’t expect
Egziabheren yizew beqin kaleteguwazu/If they do not walk in righteousness with God
Kifat ena tenkol bizu new mezmu /Cruelty and malice will bring to them innumerable suffering.

besew zend....

Dehoch aseleqiso giff yemisebeseb/He that gathers injustice with the tears of the poor
Min yimelish yihon begeta fit siqerib? /What will be his answer when he stands before the Lord?
Lezihich achir zemen yemisegebegebu /Those who are greedy for this brief moment in time
Ayerekum ayetegebum dehoch eyaserabu/They will not quench their thirst nor get filled while starving the poor

besew zend....


Yeehil sheeta tefeto  mesobum biraqot/Though our baskets are empty and we have long forgotten the smell of food
Tessfachin mulu naw egnas begeta fit /In the presence of the Lord our hope remains full
Yihin kifu gize yashagiral geta / The Lord will help us pass this time of suffering
Kesseran behuwala letselot  eneberta  /So let us, after doing our works persevere in prayer.

besew zend...
 
.......//......

"I will both sleep and rest in peace, for You alone,O Lord, cause me to dwell in hope." Psalm 4:9

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!

blessed day  :)



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 17, 2011, 09:25:20 PM
Your translations are great, Hiwot!  Thank you for all you are doing.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Volnutt on August 17, 2011, 10:44:26 PM
She certainly brightens my day up  :)!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 18, 2011, 01:40:18 AM
Selam Salpy,Voulnutt, thank you both for being so kind :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on August 18, 2011, 02:30:24 AM
Selam Hiwot! I am loving your translations of the Tewahedo mezmur. Thank you so much for them! The Ethiopian Orthodox mezmur is very special to me, but I do not know the language so it is good to finally learn a little. :)

If it is not too much trouble, could I ask for a translation of this mezmur by Mirtinesh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg4zbiXkdF4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg4zbiXkdF4)

It has been a favorite of mine for a long time now. Somewhere in the comments for the video it says that the text is based on the book of Ruth, but it would be so wonderful to know the actual words. Ameseginalehu.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 18, 2011, 01:09:30 PM
Christ is Risen!
Selam everyone :)

Dear dzheremi selam, it is truly the least I can do, but thank you for your kind words; keep me in your prayers.This mezmur is indeed based on the book of Ruth, and from the story, it draws parallels with the historical and present situation in Ethiopia (Naomi the faithful one) and the suffering of the people and their hope for deliverance by God. Their prayer for righteous leadership like David (a leader after God’s own heart)  was born from the line of Boaz( to indicate ,from the line of Christians ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg4zbiXkdF4

Introduction is a paraphrase of Ruth 1:1-2 Bebetelehem rehab behonebet zemen arat nefsat wede moabawiyan mender tesededu yesetitum sim nuhamin neber./When there was  famine in the land of Bethlehem four souls sojourned to the land of the Moabites ,the name of the woman was Naomi.


Nuhamin deguwa set zares min honeshal/ Good woman Naomi, what troubles you today?
Dessta  kanchi  reqo  hazen  tsentobishal/ for joy has left you and sorrow has engulfed you
Bemoab  kagegnesh  zeyet  ena  sinde/ if you found oil and wheat in the land of Moab
Ebakish  anchi  set  atitsnagnim  ende/ please woman why aren’t you comforted?

Sidetegna negne lageru engeda/ I am a sojourner in a foreign land
 Lemoab sewoch  yehonekugne bada/ a stranger to the people of Moab
Enbaye yefesal bayenoche moleto/ my eyes over flow with tears
Besew hager laye wedajun ato/ for the loss of my kinsmen in a foreign land

Ketagesut hulum yalefal/2// with patience all shall pass
Gin eskiyalef yalefal/ though great is the toil until it does

Ayezosh enatachin ejig atikefi/ be consoled our mother do not despair
Yihen yechinqun qen betsenat elefi/ pass this day of suffering with perseverance
Dineget endezebet tarik yilewetal/ history changes sudden and fickle
Yemayetewish neguss liredash yimetal/ and your faithful King will come to your aide.

Ebakachihu tewugne Ruth ena orpah/ please turn back Ruth and Orpah
Edilebis honeku nuroyem kefa/ for misfortune plagues me and my life is a misery
Lijochem raqugne mot wesedachew/ my children are far from me taken away by death
Nafeqewalena wede abatachew/   As they have longed for the countenance of their Father.

Ketagesut hulum yalefal/2/ with patience all shall pass
Gin eskiyalef yalefal/ though great is the toil until it does

Nuhamin Ethiopia talaqitua midir/Naomi Ethiopia O land of greatness
Silemin temolash huket ena shibir/ why are you filled with chaos and strife
Yemekera meret honesh akeldama/  a land of suffering , a field of blood
Eskemeche dires endezih emama/ O Momma, how long will you be this way!?

Merarawin weyen asegonchitognal/  He has made me drink the bitter wine
Mengeden hulu beshoh atirobignal/ He has blocked my ways with thorns
Fiqir ena selam requwal kebete/Love and peace have deserted my home
Yasecheneqegnal bichegnenete/ desolation torment me.

Ketagesut hulum yalefal/2/with patience all shall pass
Gin eskiyalef yalefal/ though great is the toil until it does

Begizew yihonall ersu yefeqedew/ all will be in good time according to His will
Besimu lemiyamenu neger lebego new/ to those who believe in His Name, all things work together for good
Yeahizabin selif keqitrish yagedal/ He will guard your gates from the army of the heathen
Beboaz azmera Dawit yiweledal/ from the lot of Boaz David will be born.

Yaregelegne be eweneet litsenana be’ersu/ let it be done to me, may He comfort me thus
Liben yabertaw qidus menfesu/ let His Holy Spirit strengthen my heart
Beselam yider miskin wegene/ and my lowly countrymen May they dwell in peace
Yageren tifat aleyew beayene/ may my eyes never see the destruction of my country!

Ketagesut hulum yalefal/2/ with patience all shall pass
Gin eskiyalef yalefal/ though great is the toil until it does

........//.......

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!

blessed day  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on August 18, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
Wow...that is so beautiful. Amazing. Thank you, thank you, Hiwot. Egziabher yibarkih.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 18, 2011, 01:42:18 PM
Amen! antenim Egziabher yibarekih/God bless you too!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 18, 2011, 07:58:39 PM
Christ is Risen!

Selam everyone  :)
It’s the eve of the feast of the Transfiguration in the Ethiopian Calendar, for those that share a similar calendar, I wish a blessed feast of Transfiguration! and I wanted to share a bit of the tradition one would see in Ethiopia on this day along what is more of a traditional way of celebratory song . I have tried to paraphrase some of the information I got from the book ‘the History of the Ethiopian Church’ by By the His Grace the late Archbishop of Showa Abune Gorgoriyos (M.A) of Eternal Memory.
This is the day our Lord reveled the Light of His Divinity and the Glory of His Majesty. This feast day is celebrated every August 13 E.C. this feast day also has another name among the faithful: it is called ‘Buhe’.  The name Buhe (uncovered, bared, bold) might have come from the fact that this is a time when the gloominess of the winter starts to give way to the light of the spring. As the Ethiopian  saying goes ‘ after buhe there is no winter, and after the rooster crows there is no more night’. However in Palestine this time of the year is a time of summer where hardly any clouds are seen. In our country the children before the approach of this feast day start to weave ropes into whips and crack those making loud thunderous sounds usually in unexpected moments which can be scary to unsuspecting people. They do this to symbolize how like thunder the voice of God is and how the three apostles were terrified and fell on the ground. The mothers in preparation for this feast day’s traditional meal (the traditional Ethiopian wheat bread) they take special care in preparing the wheat for the bread. On the eve of the feast day (August 12) the neighborhood children will go from house to house singing ‘buhe, buhe,’ and with different traditional creative lyrics they will sing about the day. The household they went to the mothers will give them the bread prepared for that purpose and the children will sing the thanks giving and blessing part of the traditional songs and will go to the next house. On the eve night most neighborhoods light campfires to remember the Light of Tabor.
This feast is very special to the traditional Students of the Church, they go around villages collecting what they need for the preparation of the feast and since the villagers know the tradition they give them in abundance. The students then will prepare a feast from what they have gathered and serve it after the Divine Liturgy for the faithful who came to attend the Liturgy. And within the church this is the day where we get to pick our drums and cymbals we have put away for the fast and celebrate with joy then we will put them away again after this day until the feast of the Assumption of the Most Pure Theotokos. Well this might perhaps help a little bit to understand what one is seeing if ever one finds oneself in Ethiopia on this day  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd3ol0PJNDU&feature=related


O come o come our God on a Pillar of Clouds  /  amlakachin na na beameede demena
O come o come Immanuel for You are The Light!/   Ammanuel  na na birehan nehena
Blessed land of Tabor and Hermon / tabor harmonem yetadelech mekan
On it is revealed the Divine Light/ yetegeletebat yemelekot birehan

From within the clouds the Father testified/  Abim mesekere bedemena sale
Saying this is My Beloved Son/  yemiwedew lije yihe new iyale
He said hear Him to the whole world./   ersun simut bilo le alem tenagere

Mosses from those who knew death and Elijah from those that did not/  kemotut muse eliyas ke heyawan
They stood on his sides and gave witness/  qomew mesekeru beqegn begiraw
For Peter John and James /  petros,yohanis, yakob hulachew
God revealed His Glorious Majesty/ amlak getinetun geleto yasayachew
Blessed are their eyes that saw Him/ yekeberu nachew yayut ayenochachew

Blessed land of Tabor and Hermon / tabor harmonem yetadelech mekan
On it is revealed the Divine Light/ yetegeletebat yemelekot birehan
O come o come our God on a Pillar of Clouds  /  amlakachin na na beameede demena
O come o come Immanuel for You are The Light!/   Ammanuel  na na birehan nehena


And I too desire as Peter did/  enem emegnalehu yepetrosin mignot
To live with Him in His heavenly dwelling/ abero lemenor besemayu bet
And  desire to be fed the milk of His Word./ degemom lememegeb yeqalun wetet

The blessing part…

Year after year – may it be renewed/ amet awedamet- degemina amet
Grace and blessing—year after year -may it be renewed/  tsega bereket-- amet degemina amet
 Truly He has given us - year after year – may it be renewed/  setonal be ewenet- amet degemina amet
With the Ray of His Light—year after year- may it be renewed/ beberehanu tsedal - amet degemina amet
He has illumined our lives – year after year- may it be renewed/ hiwotachin bera - amet degemina amet
For all time in History—year after year – may it be renewed/ hulum bezemenu tarik iyesera- amet degemina- amet
His Church will remember—year after year- may it be renewed/ bebetechristian yinoral sizeker- amet degemina amet
The wonder our Lord –year after year- may it be renewed/  dinq yetederegew yegetachin sira - amet degemina amet
Revealed on Mt Tabor—year after year- may it be renewed/  be tabor terara- amet degemina amet
May He grant us see this day next year—year after year—may it be renewed/  le ametu yaderesen -amet degemina amet
May He keep us well—year after year—may it be renewed/ hulachin bedehena- amet degemina amet
May our Lord grant us to meet in peace—year after year—may it be renewed/ selam yagenagnen-amet degemina amet
May He grant us health—year after year—may it be renewed./ getachin betena - amet degemina amet


Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!

Blessed day :)








 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 22, 2011, 01:14:27 AM
Christ is risen!
Selam:)
 Come dear friends! Let us sing the Glory of Zion the City of Our Lord!

Reading From the daily prayer book "Behold the praise of Our Lady Mary Virgin Mother of God read on Monday !/ wudaseha le egzietine maryam dingil weladite amlak  zeyitenebeb be’elete  senuy!"

The Lord willed to return Adam who was downcast and sad to his earlier dwelling. O Pure One intercede for us!/ feqede egzie yageezo le adam hizune wetikuze lib  weyagebewo habe zetikat menberu. Seali lene Qidist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL9z8TlqZ30&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVLA1YKPaA

( two videos of the same mezmur)

Hold the lyre and the harp, bring abundant praise and shout with joy/  mesenqon begenan yazu , eliletan wudasen abezu
Let the heavens and the earth hear it, as you bring your praise to Mary!/ semayat midrim yademitu lemaryam missganan ametu!
It’s a glorious Hymn of the mystery, of the grace given to men/ etsub new   qinew yesew lijoch tsega
  to those who praise him, the choir of his singers./   amesegaagnochu ye zemegnoch menga
Awakening the Harp the heart of God called on her being captive of her Glory./libe amlak terat begenan ansito lekibruwa tereto!

Hold the lyre and the harp, bring abundant praise and shout with joy/  mesenqon begenan yazu , eliletan wudasen abezu
Let the heavens and the earth hear it, as you bring your praise to Mary!/ semayat midrim yademitu lemaryam missganan ametu!

Pouring forth praise with the sweetest tune, / betium lissan beminqoreqorew
with the melody of the heavens we inherited from the fathers/ besemayu silt ke abew beweresenew
 We enter her dwelling place and prostrate ourselves saying peace be upon you/ selam leki ej enenesalen kemeqedesuwa gebeten
Hold the lyre and the harp, bring abundant praise and shout with joy/  mesenqon begenan yazu , eliletan wudasen abezu
Let the heavens and the earth hear it, as you bring your praise to Mary!/ semayat midrim yademitu lemaryam missganan ametu!



We grew up within her tent, in a land entrusted to Her,/ be asrat hageruwa be dinkuwanua adegenal
 what have we lacked while taking refuge in  her,/ kersuwa gar noren min godelobin yaweqal?
 however much we sing  and cry out  with joy, we won’t get satisfied No  not even for a moment!/ yetun binezemir anerekaam lafeta binawered eleleta

Hold the lyre and the harp, bring abundant praise and shout with joy/  mesenqon begenan yazu , eliletan wudasen abezu
Let the heavens and the earth hear it, as you bring your praise to Mary!/ semayat midrim yademitu lemaryam missganan ametu!



While we are in the land of our inheritance and not in a foreign land / be baed ayedelem be erstachin laye nen
 Take the hanging lyre down,/ mesenqon aweredu yeteseqelewin
 And in the land of our exile in a foreign land  she precedes our tears and fills us with hymn. Be engidenet bet enbachinin qedema molachin bezema

 Hold the lyre and the harp, bring abundant praise and shout with joy/  mesenqon begenan yazu , eliletan wudasen abezu
Let the heavens and the earth hear it, as you bring your praise to Mary!/ semayat midrim yademitu lemaryam missganan ametu!


..........//............

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!

Blessed Feast of the Dormition/Assumption :)
Selam:)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 24, 2011, 05:20:41 PM
Christ is Risen!
Selam everyone:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSFySVfV1pQ&feature=related


In the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit One God Amen! /  Besime  Ab weWeled Wemenfes Qidus  Ahadu Amlak Amen!

Give Thanks to the Lord of Lords Hallelujah/ Gineyu le Egzi Agaezet Hallelujah
For His mercy endures forever./ Esme le alem miheretu
(Prayer of the hours ‘seatat’ of Abba Giyorgis the Gassicha)


Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher

Look and see this incomparable love/  yihin liyu Fiqir eyu temeleketu
For the Heavenly Father calls us His Children/  lijoche yilenal yesemay abatu
He loved us freely even giving His only son to us/  wedonal  benetsa  And lijun seto
So let us open our mouth and praise the Father./ Abin enamesegen afachin tekefeto

Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher

Revealed in flesh we saw Him and we touched Him/  besiga tegeleto ayenew dassesenew
Even unto the Cross He obeyed with love./  eske  meseqel dires be fiqir yetazezew
We have seen the Son, and we believe in His Name/ Weldin ayetenewal aminenal besimu
And on us is the Seal of His Blood./ ale belayachin Deme mahitemu

Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher

When rage against us was unleashed from the assembly of kings /  benegestat mender binesabin quta
To speak on our behalf the Holy Spirit came/ sile egna linager Menfes Qidus meta
With fire He anointed The Church/ BeteChristianin  beEsat akebere
So we are afraid no more! And our weakness is gone!/ endanefera  honin  dikamachin qere !

Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher

In Trinity and Oneness our protector Lives / Andim Sostim hono ale sitebiqen
He does not will that we perish eternally / lezelalem tifat ayefeqidim liseten
The abundance of His Love, and what He for our sakes has endured/  legna yalefewin yefiqirun bizat
Beholding this we grew up with no fear of death/ iyayen adegenal sanifera  mot

Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher


Though the infinite Glory of His Kingdom is beyond contemplation/  Girmawi  Mengistu mituq bitehonim
His Praise and Hymn of adoration will not cease from our mouth/  misganana qi’ne  keafachin ayegodelim
He is without blemish and faithful He remains/ taminuwal befitachin enken sayenoribet
Let us shout with joy to God our helper./ leredan Egziabher  elel  enbelilet

Hallelujah /3x/ Praise in Heaven and Earth /  Hallelujah /3x/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God the Creator of Man/ sewin lefetere le Egziabher
Praise in Heaven and Earth/ Misgana besemay bemidr
Be to God who loves us / egnan lewedede le Egziabher

.............//................

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!

Blessed Day :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 25, 2011, 03:09:09 AM
Christ is Risen!
Selam everyone :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQkIe6yPpU&feature=related

   
Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x/ / Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x/ / yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/

Bearing glorious news when he told you that you shall conceive/ tistenisee silish bekebere zena
You said let it be done to me so generations shall be comforted/ yihuniligne aleshiw tiwelid enditsinana
And all the angels hearing it from Gabriel/ ke Gebriel semtew melaektu hulu
They give glory to the tabernacle of the lamb / lebegu maderiya kibrin yisetalu
Bowing down we also cry out Blessed!/ Bits’et enilalen  egnam adegedegen
Following the example of the lord of Rama (heaven of angels)/ ye Ramawin leul abenet adregen

Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x// Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x// yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/

Your root is on earth and your vine in heaven/ sirish bemidir new haregish besemay
You are the purest golden pot filled with our sustenance/ nitsuh mesobewerq yetmolash sisay
We ate and drank the fruit of your womb/ yemahitsenish firen belanew tetanew
Hearing of it in Ephrata and finding it in the fields of the wood/ be Ephrata semten bedur agignetenew
We have ate the hidden manna/ yetesewerewin menna beltenewal
And along with the elect we cry out blessed!/ ketemeretut gar Bits’et belenal!

Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x// Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x/// yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/



The one that made the babe in womb to jump for joy in defiance of nature/ ketefetro belayi tsinsin yazelele
In you is established the Pillar of Fire/ ye essat miseso banchi tetekele
O city of God house of our food/ ye Egziabher hageru  ye enjera betachin
How wondrous is your glory our mother/ minigna dinq new kibrish enatachin
Bowing down we also cry out blessed!/ Bits’et enelalen egnam adegdegen
Following the example of St. Elisabeth/ Qidist Elisabethin abenet aderegen

Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x/ Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x/// yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/


Seeing him asleep born in a manger/ teweldo begirgim tegneto silayut
Men and Angels together glorified him/ sew ena melakit aberew akeberut
The wall of separation is broken down by your Son/ yetilu gidgida belijish ferese
With the new Eve the race of Adam got recompensed/ be dagemit hewan yadam lij tekasse
With humility we prostrate ourselves / ij enenesalen honen be tihitina
For testifying of your glory is our glory!/ kibrishin memesker kibrachin newina!

Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x/ Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x/// yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/


Seeing him asleep born in a manger / teweldo begergim tegneto silayut
Men and angels together glorified him/ sew ena melakit abrew akeberut
The wall of separation is broken by your Son/ yetilu gidgida be lijish feresse
With the new Eve the race of Adam got recompensed/ bedagimit hewan ye adam lij tekasse
Bowing down we also cry out Blessed!/ Bits’et enelalen egnam adegedegen!
Following the example of St. Gabriel / Qidus Gabrielin abinet aderegen!

Gabriel from heaven and Elisabeth from earth /2x/ Gebriel  besemay Elsabeth bemidr/2x/
Give witness to your glory O Virgin/2x// yimesekeralu dingil yanchin kibr/2x/


Glory be to the Father to the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!

Blessed day  :)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 29, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
Christ is risen!
Selam everyone :)


 Mezmur Ze Tewahedo by Zemarit Mirtnesh Tilahun

Title : endemin chalshiw?/ How did you contain Him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STscBUQt7Lo&feature=related


How did you contain that Fire?! /Endemin  chaleshiw yanin essat
How did you contain that Divinity?!/ Endemin chaleshiw yanin melekot
Whom the heavens and earth cannot contain/ Semayna midir mayechiletun
We saw him conceived in your womb!/ Tetsenso ayenew banchi mahetsen...........repeat the last two lines

Fire is his garment and He is girded with fire and lightening/  Qemisu esat kidanu esat new mebreq
His eyes shine like flames of fire and His voice is like many waters/ ayenu miyabera dimtsu ende awelo minetiq
You are the censor holding the true burning coal/ ewenetegna fim yetemolabish maetent
You are the mother that gave birth to the fire that destroyed the abyss./  le siol gibaet esat yeweledesh enat

How did you contain that Fire?! /Endemin  chaleshiw yanin essat
How did you contain that Divinity?!/ Endemin chaleshiw yanin melekot
Whom the heavens and earth cannot contain/ Semayna midir mayechiletun
We saw him conceived in your womb!/ Tetsenso ayenew banchi mahetsen........repeat the last two lines

The seven curtains of the fire of His Glory/  sebatu  ye esat megarejawoch yekibru
The four living creatures that hold His Throne/ Aratu ensisat yemishekemut menberu
In your womb was it on the right? In Your womb was it on the left?/ behodish beqegne, weyes behodish begira?
Where was it established O Bride of the King!?/ yet tetekele anchi yenegus mushira!?

How did you contain that Fire?! /Endemin  chaleshiw yanin essat
How did you contain that Divinity?!/ Endemin chaleshiw yanin melekot
Whom the heavens and earth cannot contain/ Semayna midir mayechiletun
We saw him conceived in your womb!/ Tetsenso ayenew banchi mahetsen......repeat the last two lines

Virginity unalterable by motherhood/ beEnatinet  yemayiferis dingilina
High honor uncoverable by servitude / beGeredinet yemayeshefen li’elina
It is beyond contemplation O Virgin/ kehilina belay yanchis liyu new dingil
The depth of your mystery / mistrish telquwal tilq endelelew gedel

How did you contain that Fire?! /Endemin  chaleshiw yanin essat
How did you contain that Divinity?!/ Endemin chaleshiw yanin melekot
Whom the heavens and earth cannot contain/ Semayna midir mayechiletun
We saw him conceived in your womb!/ Tetsenso ayenew banchi mahetsen........repeat the last two lines

The sign of Horeb the hope and longing of mosses / yeKoreb kistet yemusse tesefa nafeqot
The burning bush unburnt by the fire/ lemlemuwa tekil yalaqatelat esat
The fire is your Son and you are the unburnt bush/ esatu lijish qitelu anchi nesh Maryam
From the mountain (the church) shine today for the world./Zarem dimeqi beteraraw layi leAlem.

How did you contain that Fire?! /Endemin  chaleshiw yanin essat
How did you contain that Divinity?!/ Endemin chaleshiw yanin melekot
Whom the heavens and earth cannot contain/ Semayna midir mayechiletun
We saw him conceived in your womb!/ Tetsenso ayenew banchi mahetsen........repeat the last two lines


...............//...............

Glory  be to the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 29, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Selam :)
 Another mezmur by mirthnesh

Title : where is the dwelling place of Wisdom?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkCu3lg-w_I&NR=1

Prayer: Lord Truly You are the source of Wisdom , in Your greatness You have made everything beautiful in its time! / getaye hoy be ewenet yetibeb hageruwa ante neh negerin hulu begizew wub aderegeh sertehewalina talaq neh!

O my Lord ! O my God! Who dwells in the Heavens ./ getaye hoye amelake hoy besemay yalehew/2x/
In Your creation I see You and the Splendor of Your Beauty./ ayehalehu befitretih getegna honeh/2x/

What is the depth You have prepared for the ocean and what is its limit?/ yazegajehelet yewuqiyanos tilequ yet yihon metenu?
What is the measurement of the heavens their depth and their width?/ yesemay darecha tileqtu sifatu min yihon metenu?
No one can tell the works of your hand even with thousand tongues!/ sheih quwanquwa  biweled tenegero tenegero ayaleq yante sira!
With Your thoughts of Wisdom You did not need a helper or counselor friend./  silasebkew tibeb eredat atisham mekar balienjera /2x/

O my Lord ! O my God! Who dwells in the Heavens ./ getaye hoye amelake hoy besemay yalehew/2x/
In Your creation I see You and the Splendor of Your Beauty./ ayehalehu befitretih getegna honeh/2x/


 all that You have created by speaking in silence, obeys Your laws of creation./ dimtsih sayisema befeterekew sira fitret yitazezal
And to the One Lord, to the One King, all serve with Love./ hulum land geta hulu land nigus befiqir yigezal
The birds singing in one accord with the psalmists/ Aewafe mezmur kezemegnoch gara und wegen honewal
They have revealed to us the wonder of Your Wisdom and Holiness. / dinq tibebihin qidusenetihin legna asayitewal/2x/

O my Lord ! O my God! Who dwells in the Heavens ./ getaye hoye amelake hoy besemay yalehew/2x/
In Your creation I see You and the Splendor of Your Beauty./ ayehalehu befitretih getegna honeh/2x/


You have made the firmament of water and its walls of fire. / wuhawinim tefer gidgidawin esat adrigeh sertehal
You hold the four winds sealed  at the four corners of the earth. / aratun nefasat be maezen alem weseneh zegetehal
When You command them the clouds ascend from the end of the earth./  bemitazew gize yiwetal demena kemidir darecha
Within Your palms you hold the lot of a man which unlocks the mystery of his life./ be ejih chebitehal yesewin lij eidil yehiwotun meficha /2x/
O my Lord ! O my God! Who dwells in the Heavens ./ getaye hoye amelake hoy besemay yalehew/2x/
In Your creation I see You and the Splendor of Your Beauty./ ayehalehu befitretih getegna honeh/2x/


.............//.............
Glory be to the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on August 29, 2011, 11:28:10 PM
Selam :)
 Here is another mezmur by Mirtnesh

Title Selam libelish / let me say hail!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562c8BTIKzk&feature=related

With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of Gabriel/ be Gabriel selamta
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of John/ be Yohanis selamta
Let me say Hail /2x/to your purity  / selam libelish/2x/ le Qidisenash
Hail! to your beauty / 2x/ to your humility/selam lemelkish/2x/ le tihitinash

With the victorious and the vigilant/ ke dil neshiwoch bota ke tiguhanu bota
You are their legacy O Virgin among mankind/2x/ r’est  nesh dingil besew lijoch mehal/2x/

Beyond compare is your beauty , the purity of your soul/ liyu new dem gibatish yenefesish nitsehena
From the heavens the Father saw you adorned with humility/ Ab ayesh kesemay agitesh betihitina
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of Gabriel/ be Gabriel selamta
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of John/ be Yohanis selamta
Let me say Hail /2x/to your purity  / selam libelish/2x/ le Qidisenash
Hail to your beauty / 2x/ to your humility/selam lemelkish/2x/ le tihitinash

O Intercessor who gave birth to the Sun/ amalajitu hoy yeweledeshiw tsehay
The virgins love you and call you ‘our boast’/2x/./ denagil yiwedushal memekiyachin yilushal/2x/

Beyond compare is your beauty , the purity of your soul/ liyu new dem gibatish yenefesish nitsehena
From the heavens the Father saw you adorned with humility/ Ab ayesh kesemay agitesh betihitina
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of Gabriel/ be Gabriel selamta
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of John/ be Yohanis selamta
Let me say Hail /2x/to your purity  / selam libelish/2x/ le Qidisenash
Hail to your beauty / 2x/ to your humility/selam lemelkish/2x/ le tihitinash



With a mystery that is limitless and beyond contemplation/ memeten memermer yelelebet mistir
When the Divine became Man you became His Mother/2x/ sew sihon melekot enatu honeshelet/2x/

Beyond compare is your beauty , the purity of your soul/ liyu new dem gibatish yenefesish nitsehena
From the heavens the Father saw you adorned with humility/ Ab ayesh kesemay agitesh betihitina
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of Gabriel/ be Gabriel selamta
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of John/ be Yohanis selamta
Let me say Hail /2x/to your purity  / selam libelish/2x/ le Qidisenash
Hail to your beauty / 2x/ to your humility/selam lemelkish/2x/  le tihitinash

The pure field of Ephrata where we found the Savior/ Ephrata nitsuh ersha yedihenet medaresha
Adorned with apparel interwoven with gold you sit at His right hand./2x/  werq new qemisesh beqegnu teqemitesh/2x/

Beyond compare is your beauty , the purity of your soul/ liyu new dem gibatish yenefesish nitsehena
From the heavens the Father saw you adorned with humility/ Ab ayesh kesemay agitesh betihitina
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of Gabriel/ be Gabriel selamta
With the salutation of Elisabeth/ be Elisabeth selamta
With the salutation of John/ be Yohanis selamta
Let me say Hail /2x/to your purity  / selam libelish/2x/ le Qidisenash
Hail to your beauty / 2x/ to your humility/ selam lemelkish/2x/ le tihitinash

.........//.........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!

Thats it for today, God willing may we meet in peace, blessed day  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: zekarja on August 30, 2011, 07:55:58 AM
Doxologies: St Severus (Patriarch of Antioch)

The confirmed leaders, the great defenders, the winners of the fight, the bright lamps.

+ The pillar of Orthodoxy, is Abba Severus the patriarch, the teacher of the rational, flock of Christ.

Your upright teaching, defeated the heretics, like the two edged sword, through the power of Christ.

+ Likewise we magnify You, with David the psalmist, You are the priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek.

Every knee bows to the Lord, every tongue blesses Him, the glory of God has spread, and filled the whole world.

+ Pray to the Lord on our behalf, O teachers of the Orthodoxy, Severus and Dioscorus, that He may forgive us our sins.

Source: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/1902
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on September 03, 2011, 11:33:16 PM
A modern Arabic rendition of the Sunday Vigil service hymn known as, 'The Psali for Jesus Christ': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUhKdg90NJo&

The on-screen translation is rather poor. A better translation of the hymn can be read here: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/1246
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 11, 2011, 01:24:10 AM
Selam lekulekemu :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aSa1GfE13c&feature=related


Be qidusu terara kersu gar nen  /  on the Holy Mountain we are with Him
Letebezen lebegu iyezemern/  singing for our Redeemer the Lamb
Min liyaqomew yihinin wub misgana/  what can stop this beautiful praise
Yemayishar yenigus qal newina/  for it is unbreakable word of the King

Karyam  yefeleqew zema/  melody that springs from the heaven of angels
’ kesemay kebegu ketema./  from Heaven the City of the Lamb
Atebat  alemin bemulu/  engulfed the whole world
 lijochu hale luya silu /when His children cry out hallelujah

Be qidusu terara kersu gar nen  /  on the Holy Mountain we are with Him
Letebezen lebegu iyezemern/  singing for our Redeemer the Lamb
Min liyaqomew yihinin wub misgana/  what can stop this beautiful praise
Yemayishar yenigus qal newina/  for it is unbreakable word of the King

Seyefina  biret  yemayechilew/   undefeatable by the sword or the gun
Senselet  ginb  yemayaqomew/  unstoppable by chains or walls
Yamliko maebel newina /  because it is the flood of His worship
Ayeqomim yegeta misgana/  the praise of the Lord is unceasing

 Be qidusu terara kersu gar nen  /  on the Holy Mountain we are with Him
Letebezen lebegu iyezemern/  singing for our Redeemer the Lamb
Min liyaqomew yihinin wub misgana/  what can stop this beautiful praise
Yemayishar yenigus qal newina/  for it is unbreakable word of the King



Teseberew yamoab mederekoch/  the courts of Moab became destroyed
Rist honu lenegus selefegnoch/  and given inheritance to the army of The King
Admasun midrin yeshefenew/  we covered the whole world and the horizon
Beqine bezimareyachin new/  by the hymn of our praise

 Be qidusu terara kersu gar nen  /  on the Holy Mountain we are with Him
Letebezen lebegu iyezemern/  singing for our Redeemer the Lamb
Min liyaqomew yihinin wub misgana/  what can stop this beautiful praise
Yemayishar yenigus qal newina/  for it is unbreakable word of the King

Yaqoyen ye iyerusalem /  He helped us to remain in Jerusalem
alebeson hayelin kearyam/  filling us with Power from above
Wetenal simun teshekemen /  we have ventured out bearing His Name
Torina qestu layaqomen/  will not be stopped by the lance and the arrow

Be qidusu terara kersu gar nen  /  on the Holy Mountain we are with Him
Letebezen lebegu iyezemern/  singing for our Redeemer the Lamb
Min liyaqomew yihinin wub misgana/  what can stop this beautiful praise
Yemayishar yenigus qal newina/  for it is unbreakable word of the King

 the reading 'For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased .And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.' 2 peter 1:17-18

 ending prayer 'We thank You O Lord because through Your Son You made us your Children .To You  be all Glory, and Praise, Worship and Adoration from earth unto the heavens both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen.'
 
selam  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 11, 2011, 05:19:44 AM
selam lekulekemu  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQs7GovUcqw&feature=autoplay&list=ULKTIKiLWJUts&lf=mfu_in_order&playnext=12


Have you ever sung and danced from a roof top or hanging from a fence or a tree? I mean the spiritual kind of song ;); you might like to see some do it. ;D It might remind you of what  Zacchaeus did to  see Christ among the crowd of people, it does that to me. well there is somekind of  order to the chaos you see :-\  ;D and I always loved the crowd’s unrehearsed spontaneous selection of hymns and coordination on these processions. Because of the editing they switch the hymns quickly with each I cannot translate it all, but the feast is that of epiphany the day before, the feast of canna, and St. Michael on this day that you see. As you can see they attempt to sing about all those feasts. The ark on this procession is that of St. Michael. You might see the icon of St Michael as it is raised high the youth chanting ‘ersu new Michael! Ersu new Michael!’/ ‘it is him St. Michael! it is him St. Michael!’ they also chant,’ look at him shining like the sun ‘ / eyut siyabera ende jember’ they switch and start to sing egziabher yimesegen lezih yaderesen’ Thanks be to God for letting us see this day’ then it switches again and they say ‘ anchi yordanos minigna tadelesh ye egziabher menfes kelay werdobish yealem medihanit tetemeqebish/ and you Jordan how lucky you are for the Spirit of God descended from heaven and the Savior of the world got baptized in you!.’ At some point they say, be ede yohanis tetemqe Iyesus nazrawi semayawi be ede midrawi/ by the hand of John, Jesus the Nazarene got baptized lo the heavenly by the hand of the earthly/ there is a lot of halleluiahs going on … well   that was just a snapshot of what goes on during this feast. Hope you enjoyed it somehow  ;D

selam to u all
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 12, 2011, 11:28:28 PM
Biruk awede amet! Melkam addis amet! Enqutatash! Enkuan le Qidus Yohannis beal beselam aderessachihu!  Happy New Year! ;D

As part of the celebration of the New Year, this time being spring time in Ethiopia young girls and children go around form house to house bringing flowers and singing. Little boys draw New Year well-wishing paintings, and go around giving it to people. On the eve of the New Year, the celebratory torches are lit campfires made and people sing around them in thanksgiving for the ending of the winter and the coming of the spring and the New Year. I thought I would share one of the songs of the young girls with you; the tune is traditional so it’s a public melody,  I used to enjoy hearing the high pitched voice of the girls singing here and there as I passed through neighborhoods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyZDfGOS2b8&feature=related

Esey des des yibelen/2x/  addisu amet metalin des des yibelen/2x/ yea let us be joyful and rejoice, for the new year has come for us let us rejoice
Ho beln metan ho bilen /2x/ getoch alu bilen/ together we come rejoicing and trusting we will meet the lord of this house
Ho belen metan ho bilen/2x/ emete alu bilen/   together we come rejoicing and trusting we will meet the lady of this house
Ho bilen metan ho bilen/2x/ zemen metual bilen/, together we come rejoicing because the New Year is here
Abebayehosh/2x/- lemlem/2x/ / we have seen the flowers/  fresh and green
Balenjeroche- lemlem gibu betera-lemlem / enter my dear friends one by one
ke egziabher meqedes-lemlem / in to the Temple of God
 keza terara- lemlem/ on to that Mountain
enditadenqu-lemlem / so you may marvel
yamlakin sira-lemlem / at what God has done
hiwot yagegnal-lemlem/ for  Life is given
ersun yetera- lemlem/ to  those who call His Name
abeba abeba feka zemen siteka/2x/ the flower!  the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived
abebayehosh-lemlem/2x/ / we have seen the flower –fresh and green
kiremt alefe- lemlem/ the winter has passed
chelemaw tefa- lemlem/ the darkness is no more
yemeseqelu qal-lemlem / the word of the Cross
honelin tesefa-lemlem/ has become our hope
enagelgelew-lemlem/ let us serve Him
betu gebten-lemlem/ entering into His dwelling place
tinish tiliqum-lemlem/ young and old alike
teselefen-lemlem/ enter together
 abeba abeba feka zemen siteka / the flower , the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived
abebayehosh lemlem/ we have seen the flower-fresh and green/2x/
yanin Kunene- lemlem/ that  exile
zemene fida-lemlem/ the years of our slavery
yemotu werat- lemlem/ the reign of death
 yamidre beda-lemlem/ and desolation
lik ende kiremit-lemlem / just like the winter
hede tegefo-lemlem/ it passed cast away
tsehay wetalin-lemlem/ the sun has risen for us
chelemaw alefo-lemlem/ the darkness has passed
abeba abebaw feka zemen siteka/ the flower , the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived

abebayehosh –lemlem/ we have seen the flower-fresh and green/2x/
yihew mesekerem-lemlem/ behold September
yihew tsehayi-lemlem/ behold the Sun
nigusu werdo-lemlem/ the king has descended
kelay seamy-lemlem/ from the heavens above
awede amet hone-lemlem/  the herald of the new year
desta selam-lemlem/ joy and peace
fiqir sigelet-lemlem / when love is reveled
kearyam-lemlem/  from the heavens
abeba abeba feka zemen siteka/ the flower , the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived
abebayehosh-lemlem/ we have seen the flower-fresh and green/2x/
yihew abeba-lemlem/  behold the flowers
lemlem qetema-lemlem/ the green and lush grass
addisu zemen-lemlem/ the new year
amitutalina-lemlem/ has brought with it
berun kifetu-lemlem/ lift up  the gates
mekuwanintochu -lemlem/ You rulers
yekibir nigus-lemlem / the King of Glory
yigeba betachihu-lemlem/ let Him enter into your house
abeba abeba feka zemen siteka/ the flower , the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived
abebayehosh-lemlem/ we have seen the flower-fresh and green/2x/
betachihu yimula-lemlem / may your home be filled
selam desita-lemlem/ with peace and joy
tesefachihu ersu-lemlem/ and may your Hope be Him
yehulu geta-lemlem/ the Lord of All
kezemen zemen-lemlem/ from year to year
yashegagerachihu-lemlem/ may He let us pass
yeshibetin zewed -lemlem/ the crown of grey hair
yishelimachihu-lemlem/ may He give to you
abeba abeba feka zemen siteka/ the flower , the flower has bloomed when the new year arrived
yishetal doro doro yemamiye guwaro/2/from your kitchen comes the delightful smell of your chicken stew my dear mother
yishetal tej tej yababeye dej/2/ and my dear father, your court smells of the sweet honey wine
abeye ehe! degemom emameye metahu beselamta kebet alu biye enkuan le addisu amet aderesot biye/
O my dear father, and o my dear mother, I come in peace hoping to find you home and to say, thank the Lord for granting you to see the new year.
keberew yiqoyun keberew yekibrin wenegel semetew yebegun siga beletew yamlakin fitun ayetew kebrew/ in glory may you await us yea in glory, having heard the Gospel of Glory, having ate the Flesh of the Lamb, having seen the face of God yea in such glory may you await us next year too.

.......//.....
selam lekulekemu :)





Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 14, 2011, 01:39:12 AM
Selam lekulekemu :)
Let us remember St.John the Baptist, and his message with this mezmur

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiU615PeMqU&feature=related


Yohannes dingil /2x/nebiye leul/ Johannes Virgin Prophet of the King
Yohannes dingil /2x/memhere wengel/ Johannes Virgin teacher of the Gospel

Gena bemahitsen legeta yesegedek/ while still in the womb you bowed down to the Lord
Bemenfes qidus hayil bedesta yezelelk/ By the power of the Holy Spirit you leapt for joy
Nazrawi sebaki bebereha yadegek/ Nazarene preacher raised in a desert
Yersun adagninet le alem yesebek/ who preached to the world that He is the Savior
Hizbun yazegajeh tamagne  meleketegna/ a loyal messenger, who prepared the people
Yenesehan timqet yatemek eregna/ a shepherd who baptized the baptism of repentance
Tirgiyaw tedeledelual mengedum teqantual/  the way is prepared, and the path is made straight
Yohannes sibeketih kelibachin gebutual/ yohannis your message has entered our hearts

Yohannes dingil /2x/nebiye leul/ Johannes Virgin Prophet of the King
Yohannes dingil /2x/memhere wengel/ Johannes Virgin teacher of the Gospel


Kehuwalaye yimetal be esat yemiyatemeqew/ after me shall come One who baptizes with Fire
Ersu yekebere kene yelaqe new/ and He is Glorious and Mightier than me
Yechamawin  kiroch mefetat bayegebagne/ even though I am not worthy to untie the straps of His sandals
Ersu new getaye bemenfes yemolagne/ He is my Lord, the One who filled me with the Spirit
Libonachihu yiqena asegebut kefetahihu/ Lift up your repentant hearts and Let Him enter
Bemotu yikefetal  yemedan berachihu /  the gate of your salvation shall be opened by His death.
Ye alemin hatiyat yemiyaseteserey beg /The Lamb who takes away the sin of the world
Enanten yishomal lijochu bemadereg/ He will glorify you by making you His Children

 Yohannes dingil /2x/nebiye leul/ Johannes Virgin Prophet of the King
Yohannes dingil /2x/memhere wengel/ Johannes Virgin teacher of the Gospel



Kefiteret akibiro geta amesegenohal/because the Lord has honored you among mankind
Fiqrina selamta kibir yigebahal/ you deserve to be loved, saluted, and honored
Bahitawi yegedam hiwotin yemitesebek ,/ a hermit, who is the example of  the desert life.
Yalenat yalabat bersu fiqir yadegek/ fatherless and motherless in there you grew up with His Love.
Yeteseteh tsega qalkidanih tsentual/the grace given to you and His covenant with you is steadfast
Yedekamoch birtat yeduyan fewes honuwal/ and it has become the strength of the weak and healing for the sick.
Letelat mercha neh kechinqet medagna/ you help us defeat the enemy and prevail over despondency
Yohannes redeteh yiderebin be egna/ Johannes may your help be with us always.

Yohannes dingil /2x/nebiye leul/ Johannes Virgin Prophet of the King
Yohannes dingil /2x/memhere wengel/ Johannes Virgin teacher of the Gospel

.........//........
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 19, 2011, 07:26:21 PM
My cousin is part of this new group called CoptAcapella.  They released a unique rendition of a Coptic spiritual song, "My Coptic Church":

http://ia700705.us.archive.org/21/items/MyCopticChurch/MyCopticChurch.mp3

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 20, 2011, 03:10:19 AM
Selam Lekemu :)
O Mina! that was so beautiful!!! pls more! more! more! if you have some more of this groups mezmur pls. I cried listening to it, it was so moving.

Isaiah 19:19 "In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the LORD at its border."

Thank you for sharing Mina  :) , May God increase the grace of this group ten fold. may they hear the hymn of the celestial choir.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 20, 2011, 09:42:51 PM
My cousin is part of this new group called CoptAcapella.  They released a unique rendition of a Coptic spiritual song, "My Coptic Church":

http://ia700705.us.archive.org/21/items/MyCopticChurch/MyCopticChurch.mp3

Enjoy :)

This really is beautiful.  Do you know if they are going to put together a CD?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 20, 2011, 10:00:31 PM
My cousin is part of this new group called CoptAcapella.  They released a unique rendition of a Coptic spiritual song, "My Coptic Church":

http://ia700705.us.archive.org/21/items/MyCopticChurch/MyCopticChurch.mp3

Enjoy :)

This really is beautiful.  Do you know if they are going to put together a CD?

They have a free podcast, and they update it every once in a while:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/coptacapella/id456677533

They just released another track, "Love, Love" in it.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Iconodule on September 21, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
I really want to know where to get good CD's or high-quality downloads of this Mezmur stuff- it's awesome. I know you can get the MP3's from Youtube but the sound quality isn't as good.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 21, 2011, 10:30:15 PM
Alright, since writing about Ahmed Gragn and Ethiopia in this thread (http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,39715.msg642152.html#msg642152) has kind of bummed me out a little, I did a little search for Oromo Orthodox mezmur, and with great joy found some really amazing stuff by Deacon Geremu Bayesa:

Haalle Luuyyaa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMG676sfqfs)
Kidane Mihret (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1CaZfsp6SA&feature=related)
Kulkulu Michael (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMdKrzpyfxI&feature=related)

The Oromo are a formerly majority-Christian people who were mostly converted to Islam in the 14th century. The Oromo are a Cushitic people, speaking a language related to Somali, Afar, etc. These recordings are very special because Protestants are active in converting Oromo such that most of what you'll find if you look for Oromo Christian hymns are Protestant gospel songs. If there exist more Orthodox hymns in Cushitic languages, I'd love to hear them... (Hiwot? Habte?  ;))
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 22, 2011, 02:55:48 PM
yes its beautiful ! I know people who can speak Oromufa but they have gone back home, when they return I will ask them to help me to translate into Amharic so I can translate it into English. you can find the whole CD mezmur of Deacon Geremu on this website

 http://www.tewahedo.org/g_m.html

I have not found mezmur  in any other language besides ,oromufa and tigrigna, and I have very limited understanding of tigrigna and I do not want to mess up the translation so I have asked my dear Eritrean friend to help me translate, so I will try to post some tigrigna mezmur both from Ethiopia and Eritrean zemariyans as I am able.

I know there are quite a few oromufa mezmurs out there, mahebere kidusan had published one album in oromufa that i know of, but apparently they have not found their way on line yet. there is a need though to use all the major languages of the south to make mezmurs for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

blessed day  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 22, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
Selam lekemu :)

The finding of the Holy Cross is celebrated in Ethiopia on September 26/27on leap year or in Ethiopian calendar September 17 starting from the eve on the 16th. This day marks the first  day of the 6 month it took to excavate the Holy Cross, St. Helena found the Holy Cross on Megabit 10 ( March 19). It is commemorated on both Months with  the celebration of the Divine Liturgy and the singing of Hymns. However in addition to all of these on September 16 evening there is a great procession to the Holy Cross square, in Addis Ababa, and in remembrance of St. Helena’s using the smoke of the incense from the bonfire as an indicator of where the Holy Cross was buried there is a bonfire lit with a sign of the cross made with ‘meskel daises’ a bright yellow daisy that blooms at that time and covers the fields everywhere you see with golden hue. Sunday School Choirs from all over the city come to the Square singing the message of the Cross, the Exultation of the Cross, re enacting the search of the Holy Cross by St. Helena, carrying the flags of all sovereign nations of the world as part of the message of the cross being the brotherhood of mankind and as a reminder of the message of peace and love it brings the world. This day is one of the National Holidays so people gather in thousands to celebrate it, the day of the demera/ lighting of the fire is the eve of meskel, The celebration is in every Orthodox Christian home and parish churches also where bonfires with the sign of the cross are prepared and after being blessed by priests they are lit and the celebratory singing ensues , and after the fire burns down and people go to their homes only to return in the morning to get the ash and mark themselves on their foreheads with a sign of the cross, so when you go into town on meskel day you see people with the sign of the Cross marked with ash on their foreheads everywhere. Here is one mezmur   about the Finding of the True Cross.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YWGEf5im8c


Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

Yetil gidgeda-- yeferesebet /with it is broken down the wall of enmity
Sew ke egziabher gar--yetareqebet/ with it man is reconciled with God
Ye egziabher lij--yenegesebet/ on it the Son of God was enthroned Victorious King
Yemot abegaz -- yewedeqebet/with it death is abolished

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

Ayehud beqinat --mesqelun qeberew/  In envy the Jews buried the Cross
Biqeberut enkuan --be qoshashachew/ although they buried it with their refuse
Getan meqawem-- silemayechilu /because they cannot stop the Lord
Yihew tegegne --weta meseqelu/ behold the Cross is found and is exulted

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

Degu kirakos-- shimagelew/ blessed kirakos the old man
Elenin merat --bedemeraaw/ Lead Helena with the burning incense
Geta bersu laye --bemeseqelu/ for the Lord was Crucified on it
Tisu segede --wede meseqelu/ the smoke bowed towards the Cross.

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

Ye emenet milikit --meseqel newena/ because the Cross is the Sign of Faith
Teraraw meda --hone ende egena/ once again the mountain became leveled
Endetenesa --geta endeqalu/ as the Lord is risen according to His word
Kegudguwad weta-- etse meseqelu/ His Cross came out of the pit and is exalted

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found


Egnam bemeseqel enemekalen/ and we boast because of the Cross
Be egziabher tibeb --mech enaferalen/ we are not ashamed of the Wisdom of God
Mognenet enkuwan --bihon le alem/ although it is foolishness to the World
Hayil tsewen new-- lezelealem/ it is forever our strength and our refuge

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

Gidgidaw fersual --yeliyunetu/ the wall of separation is broken down
Midrina semay --honu endeteintu/ the heaven and the earth have become one as before
Nefsena siga --bersu tarqewal/ the soul and the flesh have reconciled by the Cross.
Hizb ena ahizab -- wandem honewal/ people and the nations have become brothers!

Eseye elele belu tegegne meseqelu/2x/ Yeah rejoice and ululate joyfully for the Cross has been found

.........//..........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Sebhat le Ab weWeld weMenfes Qidus ye'ezeni we'zelfeni leAleme alem amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 22, 2011, 06:07:02 PM
Thank you for the link to Deacon Geremu's album, Hiwot. I'm in heaven now!

I have not found mezmur  in any other language besides ,oromufa and tigrigna, and I have very limited understanding of tigrigna and I do not want to mess up the translation so I have asked my dear Eritrean friend to help me translate, so I will try to post some tigrigna mezmur both from Ethiopia and Eritrean zemariyans as I am able.

That would be wonderful!

I have always wondered, since first being exposed to Tewahedo mezmur several years ago, about mezmur in other languages in Ethiopia. I guess Afan Oromo, Amharic and Tigrinya are it, huh? That is too bad. What about the Southern people who are majority Christian, like the Dorze? It would be amazing to hear their polyphonic singing in mezmur...maybe someday... :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 22, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
 dzheremi,you are very welcome!
It would be beautiful if there would be mezmur albums released in those languages, it might be my lack of information but I will ask when I call back home if they do have Cd's on any other languages. if they do not I pray they do soon because it is absolutely imperative that the faithful be served in their own language. especially with mezmurs.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Iconodule on September 22, 2011, 06:31:12 PM
Thanks for the links Hiwot- this is a jackpot!

Can someone more technically competent than I explain how I might download these songs instead of just playing them?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 22, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
you are very welcome Iconodule  :)
I am very technologicaly challenged  but I think if you can download it with real player then after you are done downloading you can convert it using the convert feature on realplayer to mp3 or whatever you wish. if that does not work i hope somebody tells us something that does   :-\
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on September 22, 2011, 06:51:44 PM
Thanks for the links Hiwot- this is a jackpot!

Can someone more technically competent than I explain how I might download these songs instead of just playing them?

I like to use this sometimes:

http://www.video2mp3.net/

See if this works.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: William on September 22, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
Is there any good OO music in English? It seems like most of what's being posted in this thread is in the particular Church's respective liturgical language.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 22, 2011, 07:57:09 PM
One of my favorites is the English Midnight Praises (http://www.stantonymonastery.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85:english-midnight-praise&catid=26:audio&Itemid=3) by St. Antony Monastery in California. They have also recorded a few hours of the Agpeya (Coptic book of the hours) in English, but I haven't had a chance to listen to those yet. I bet they're great.

St. Mark's in D.C. has several CDs that are at least partially in English (I only own Kiahk vol. 3, but from what I remember the verses generally alternate: One in English, one in Arabic, one in Coptic). A lot of the churches in Canada and Australia seem to have English-language CDs recorded, too, though I don't have any. And if you go to a Coptic site like tasbeha.org you can find many liturgies recorded in English by Fr. Anthony Hanna, Fr. Antonious Tanios, etc. in their media section.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 08, 2011, 01:49:27 AM
A beautiful Coptic hymn, with transliteration and translation:

http://www.copticheritage.org/spiritual_songs/rashi_song
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on October 10, 2011, 05:34:34 PM
selam lekulekemu  :)

On this day Meskerem/September 29 of Ethiopian Calendar, or October 10 of European Calendar, our most beloved, the glorious, Virgin Saint and Martyr Hripsime/Arsema of Armenia and her Companions are commemorated. As she remains quick to aid  the Christians in Ethiopia through her unfailing miraculous intercession and love, she is in turn highly honored, loved and  very dear to Ethiopians, along with the ancient  and new churches and monasteries built in her name, there continues youth and adult  associations forming in her name in Ethiopia. Here is one mezmur about her. May her intercession be with us. Amen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz83IG9wvU0&feature=related

Ye Iyesus arebegna ye emenet selefegna/ the warrior of Jesus, Charging with Faith
Honeshal Arsema  midir yihin yisma/ this is what you are Arsema so let the world hear of you.

Yedanshebet demu arefobish mahetemu/ sealed with the blood of salvation
Meseqel teshekemesh seyefin yeteqebelsh/ in carrying the cross you accepted the sword
Aberash arsema qeltesh endeshama/ like a candle you shined while melting
Lesemaetenetish zemachin yidresish/ and we sing of your martyrdom

Ye Iyesus arebegna ye emenet selefegna/ the warrior of Jesus, Charging with Faith
Honeshal Arsema  midir yihin yisma/ this is what you are Arsema so let the world hear of you.

 Tansash Armenia tasebesh Ethiopia/ let Armenia remember you and Ethiopia commemorate you
 Yimesekerew alem tsinatshin zelalem/ let the world witness of your zeal and steadfastness.
Lekefeleshiw waga geta ejun zerega/ for the price you paid, the Lord stretched His arm towards you.
Aklil berasish lay anurwal elshaday/ and the Almighty Crowned your head with the crown of Glory.

Ye Iyesus arebegna ye emenet selefegna/ the warrior of Jesus, Charging with Faith
Honeshal Arsema  midir yihin yisma/ this is what you are Arsema so let the world hear of you.

Gejzeim gejzi endalew timeketegnaaw ayew/ the proud saw that there is a Lord even over the lords
Tor endemayegeza kegeta meaza/ that the lance will not rule over the beauty of the fragrance of the Lord
Yihew tarik qomo Simshin teshekemo /  behold the pillar of witness stands baring your name
Weresenew zinashin Azemin gedleshin/ we sing of your good fight,as we remember your life.

Ye Iyesus arebegna ye emenet selefegna/ the warrior of Jesus, Charging with  Faith
Honeshal Arsema  midir yihin yisma/ this is what you are Arsema so let the world hear of you.

Kebizuwoch terta temertesh kegeta/ chosen by the Lord from among many
Letalaqu kibir seberesh yafiqir/ captive of that love that calls you for the great glory
Athanasia enatish meche tetsetseta/your mother Athanasia never regretted your fight
Yemoteshew lersu new motishin lemotew/ for she knows that you have died for the Him who died for you

Ye Iyesus arebegna ye emenet selefegna/ the warrior of Jesus, Charging with  Faith
Honeshal Arsema  midir yihin yisma/ this is what you are Arsema so let the world hear of you.


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Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on October 11, 2011, 01:24:24 AM
^ Thank you for this.  I'm going to link it in the thread we have about her.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on November 11, 2011, 08:10:42 PM
Selam Lekulekemu :angel:

Mezmur by the secular singer Teddy afro( although most people  in Ethiopia do not like it when secular singers want to do both, that is the secular songs and the sacred mezmur,  and I agree for the most part however I also think this opens the chance for his fans who are christian and non christian alike to hear the message of the Gospel and who  knows...  ;D )  Anyway ,I was listening to this today and thought may be you guys might enjoy it as well.Here Teddy prays for himself and his country men, so bad translation all, here it goes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl8LWjZgsE&feature=related


Our Father who art in Heaven/ Abbatachin  basamayat yaleh

Above all others Hallowed be thy Glorious Name/ teleyeto yeemoges  kebur semeh

The Lord of Hosts descending from the heavens above/ ke samayat kelaye ke Tsebaot waredo

Born from my Lady the Virgin Mary/ Ke emebete ke dingil Maryam taweldo

For my sins my Redeemer died on the Cross/ bemesekel laye sile hatiyate beza hono

Emmanuel our God became Man and remained with us./Ammanuel  Egziabher  ke egna gar hono


Behold the Savior of the World, who is the gift of Mary/ ya medehane’alem ye Maryam tsega

For my redemption His side was pierced by a lance ./Beza leehon lane gonun tewega



You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena
 
Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen. Yakebereh amlak yidresih misgana, Amen.


He set me free on Golgotha / Arenet awetagne qeraneyo la’yee

For my sake He endured suffering/silene bizu aye siqayee


You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena

Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen./ yakebereh amlak yideresih misgana , Amen.

Ethiopia Stretches her hand towards God and She says Hallelujah (2x) Ethiopia tabetseh idewiha habe Egziabher Hallelujah!(2x)



May Glory be to His Name the Lord who saved me,/ wudasse leSimu ladanegne geta

How can I , return His favor?/ bemin limelesew ye’ersun wuleta?

Hale! Hallelujah! for the Lord who was slaughtered/ hale !hallelujah! leta’redew  geta

So how can I return His favor? Amen/ be min limelesew ene ye’ersun wuleta? Amen.

The Heavenly Glory, the Son of Mary / Samayawiw tsega , yemaryam lij

Unlocked the gates of Sheol by His Cross/ BeMeseqelu zega ye see’olin  dej


You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena

Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen./ yakebereh amlak yideresih misgana , Amen.


Give peace Lord and well being to our country / Selam aman aregat hagerachinin

Compassionate Mary our Mother/ azagnitiwa Maryam enatachin

I entreat you Virgin the Mother of my Lord/ Aderashin dingil yegetaye enat

Intercede for us with your Son when we pray in faith. Amen. / astarqin kegeta sintselaye be ‘emenet, Amen.



 Ethiopia Stretches her hand towards God and She says Hallelujah (2x) Ethiopia tabetseh idewiha habe Egziabher Hallelujah!(2x)



                                 ................///................


Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: zekarja on November 11, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
Selam Lekulekemu :angel:

Mezmur by the secular singer Teddy afro( although most people  in Ethiopia do not like it when secular singers want to do both, that is the secular songs and the sacred mezmur,  and I agree for the most part however I also think this opens the chance for his fans who are christian and non christian alike to hear the message of the Gospel and who  knows...  ;D )  Anyway ,I was listening to this today and thought may be you guys might enjoy it as well.Here Teddy prays for himself and his country men, so bad translation all, here it goes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl8LWjZgsE&feature=related


Our Father who art in Heaven/ Abbatachin  basamayat yaleh

Above all others Hallowed be thy Glorious Name/ teleyeto yeemoges  kebur semeh

The Lord of Hosts descending from the heavens above/ ke samayat kelaye ke Tsebaot waredo

Born from my Lady the Virgin Mary/ Ke emebete ke dingil Maryam taweldo

For my sins my Redeemer died on the Cross/ bemesekel laye sile hatiyate beza hono

Emmanuel our God became Man and remained with us./Ammanuel  Egziabher  ke egna gar hono


Behold the Savior of the World, who is the gift of Mary/ ya medehane’alem ye Maryam tsega

For my redemption His side was pierced by a lance ./Beza leehon lane gonun tewega



You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena
 
Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen. Yakebereh amlak yidresih misgana, Amen.


He set me free on Golgotha / Arenet awetagne qeraneyo la’yee

For my sake He endured suffering/silene bizu aye siqayee


You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena

Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen./ yakebereh amlak yideresih misgana , Amen.

Ethiopia Stretches her hand towards God and She says Hallelujah (2x) Ethiopia tabetseh idewiha habe Egziabher Hallelujah!(2x)



May Glory be to His Name the Lord who saved me,/ wudasse leSimu ladanegne geta

How can I , return His favor?/ bemin limelesew ye’ersun wuleta?

Hale! Hallelujah! for the Lord who was slaughtered/ hale !hallelujah! leta’redew  geta

So how can I return His favor? Amen/ be min limelesew ene ye’ersun wuleta? Amen.

The Heavenly Glory, the Son of Mary / Samayawiw tsega , yemaryam lij

Unlocked the gates of Sheol by His Cross/ BeMeseqelu zega ye see’olin  dej


You are the God whom Ezra with the lyre and David with the harp Glorified/ Ezra be masanqo Dawit bebegena

Let this thanks giving reaching you Amen./ yakebereh amlak yideresih misgana , Amen.


Give peace Lord and well being to our country / Selam aman aregat hagerachinin

Compassionate Mary our Mother/ azagnitiwa Maryam enatachin

I entreat you Virgin the Mother of my Lord/ Aderashin dingil yegetaye enat

Intercede for us with your Son when we pray in faith. Amen. / astarqin kegeta sintselaye be ‘emenet, Amen.



 Ethiopia Stretches her hand towards God and She says Hallelujah (2x) Ethiopia tabetseh idewiha habe Egziabher Hallelujah!(2x)



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Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!

This is beautiful, Hiwot!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on November 11, 2011, 09:47:05 PM
^^ thank you Zekarja , I am glad you liked it :angel:
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 16, 2011, 12:13:33 AM
Some beautiful Syriac chant in India:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF7Ets-YRAU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on December 16, 2011, 12:35:12 AM
Incredible! I love it. Thank you, Salpy! I wish there was more chant like this available among the Syrian videos from India. There are a lot more videos with incredibly distracting (to me) instrumentation in them. It is good to see a pure one!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 16, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
Thank you Salpy, that was indeed truly beautiful!

listen to this beautiful congregation, I believe they are praying the kiahk midnight praise  correct me if they are not, look how the entire congregation sings.. Its so beautiful to my ears and eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp8NUv7eGEI&feature=related

Ok I really like this beautiful hymn too, its in English.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqzNf2m9FI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on December 16, 2011, 09:58:03 PM
Huh. I've never heard that in English before. It sounds good. I like how they elongated the pronunciation of "Mary", since they spell it out in Arabic (maybe it would sound too weird to do that in English? "O, M-A-R-Y") Here is that same hymn in the Arabic, sung by Adel Maher: Ya Mim-Rim-Ya-Mim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYgNbk-QFp0)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 16, 2011, 10:12:28 PM
Thank you dzheremi, the arabic sounds realy great, it even helps to get the tune.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 21, 2011, 05:39:49 PM
I know that Der Voghormia (Lord have mercy) has already been posted here somewhere, but I like this version of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmpmyo0yUfU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 21, 2011, 06:05:59 PM
Salpy, that was beyond beautiful!

how do you pronounce Der voghormia?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on December 21, 2011, 06:16:15 PM
i agree, i loved it.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 21, 2011, 07:49:09 PM
Salpy, that was beyond beautiful!

how do you pronounce Der voghormia?

Der rhymes with "hair."

Voghormia is pretty much pronounced how it is spelled, with the gh sounding kind of like a French r.  If you listen closely to the video, you can hear it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 21, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
Thank you so much salpy!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 24, 2011, 12:41:21 AM
I'm not sure what to make of this song about the Mother of God.  It uses modern instrumentation which I normally don't like.  Also, much of the imagery in the video is not from the Armenian Orthodox tradition.  Still, there is something about it that that I liked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeyL1waY88

I think at least part of it is filmed in Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on December 24, 2011, 10:55:24 AM
^Very cool. Please post links to any similar "modern remixes" should you find any.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Aram on December 27, 2011, 12:20:42 AM
I'm not sure what to make of this song about the Mother of God.  It uses modern instrumentation which I normally don't like.  Also, much of the imagery in the video is not from the Armenian Orthodox tradition.  Still, there is something about it that that I liked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeyL1waY88

I think at least part of it is filmed in Jerusalem.
Most everything in that video is from Jerusalem and the surrounding areas, including several sites that have to do with Mary that are held by other confessions, yet are venerated by Armenians anyway.  Saw a few familiar faces from the Armenian Quarter, too.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 29, 2011, 01:42:48 AM
Thanks for the info.  I've never been to Jerusalem.  Perhaps some day...    :) 

The video reminds me of this one, which I posted some time ago and which I think also may have been made in Jerusalem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEZyHIhe_9E
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on December 29, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
I'm not sure what to make of this song about the Mother of God.  It uses modern instrumentation which I normally don't like.  Also, much of the imagery in the video is not from the Armenian Orthodox tradition.  Still, there is something about it that that I liked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeyL1waY88

I think at least part of it is filmed in Jerusalem.

Wow, I loved it. As EA said, if you find anything else like this please post it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 30, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Here are some very nice mezmurs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsizhz1Cby8

The video gives a transliteration and translation of the words.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 05, 2012, 12:44:03 AM
Selam all!

This mezmur is  one among many that are more of a traditional(customary) mezmur from the shepherds and young kids in Ethiopia sung during the week of the Feast of the Nativity into the feast of Theophany around the neighbor hoods. The tune is also a public tune. Hope you will enjoy it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMzQupxZ70s


He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)


As it has been foretold by the mouth of the prophets--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Sineger nebere be nebiyat af ---Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

By the One God by the One Spirit--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Be andu be Egziabher be andu be Manfes--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

That A Day will break; a Sun shall rise--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

And qen endihon tsehay endiweta--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

The King we have been longing for, taking on flesh behold he has come!--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Yenafeqenew Negus siga lebeso meta!--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)



He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)



Abraham longed to see that day--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Abraham yanin qen lemayet nafeqe--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

David knew of His birth in Ephrata --- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Dawit be Ephrata lidetun aweqe--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Elijah foresaw His birth of the Virgin--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Isayiyas keDingil siwalad ayena--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Thus he prophesized saying behold “A sign!”--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Tinbit tenagere ‘milikit’ alena--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)



He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)


When A Star came out of Jacob--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Kokeb ke yacob yiwetal sibal--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

The heaven he shined from was His Virgin Mother--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Semay honechilet enatu dingil--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

And shining among His people--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Behizbum mekakel hono yemiyabera--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

He destroyed the workings of the darkness.--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Bersu ferarese yechelemaw sira--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)



He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)


Enter into Bethlehem along with the shepherds--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Ke eregnoch gara Bethlehem gibu--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Bringing your gift along with the kings--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Kenegestatu gar amehan aqirebu--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Let us prostrate ourselves and worship the Child for He is Worthy!--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Eneseged le hitsanu yigebawalina! --- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

For governing power is upon His shoulders---- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Aleqinet siltan bechanqaw new ena --- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)



He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)


Reading from the Gospel of St. Luke 2: 8-11

Luke 2:8-11
King James Version (KJV)
8And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
9And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
10And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.  


When A Star came out of Jacob--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Kokeb ke yacob yiwetal sibal--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

The heaven he shined from was His Virgin Mother--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Semay honechilet enatu dingil--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

And shining among His people--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Behizbum mekakel hono yemiyabera--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

He destroyed the workings of the darkness.--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Bersu ferarese yechelemaw sira--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)


He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)


Enter into Bethlehem along with the shepherds--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Ke eregnoch gara Bethlehem gibu--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Bringing your gift along with the kings--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Kenegestatu gar amehan aqirebu--- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

Let us prostrate ourselves and worship the Child for He is Worthy!--- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Eneseged le hitsanu yigebawalina! --- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)

For governing power is upon His shoulders---- He is born to us-- from the Virgin!

Aleqinet siltan bechanqaw new ena --- Teweldenaho Emdingil(2x)



He is born to us-- from the Virgin!
Teweldenaho Emdingil!(2x)
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Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 16, 2012, 02:05:54 AM
Selam all :)
Another Nativity mezmur..

beGol   sekebe  beazrekt   teteblele
Egzie  wemedehin
Beza  kulu  alem  yom  tewelde!

He slept in a manger wrapped in a swaddling cloth
The Lord and Savior
The Redeemer of the World is born today!



This group sings the whole musical number of the hymn so its longer than 10 min, this particular hymn happens to be one of my favorite Christmas hymns especially when sung during the vigil at Church where everyone lights their candle and you can hear the sound of  the bells ringing , the heralding drums ,the ululating of  women , see the procession of the clergy with the Holy Cross and the Nativity’s Icon  with the rising incense it is one of a kind experience that  makes the young and old leap and dance with joy while singing the Redeemer of the World is born today! :angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV9jRxYZ-CI&feature=related  part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br20Duen5tw&feature=related  part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAhIkS5RpG0&feature=related  part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu83TJAjfoI&feature=related  part 4

Ok here is another one with the same mezmur with the single line “ beza kulu alem yom tewelde / the Redeemer of the World is born today!/ however with different guys singing it, the reading is from Luke 2:9-10  Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.”


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-ycqs0gPc&feature=related


..........///...........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 16, 2012, 02:12:16 AM
Another one  :angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYULNosbq_M


Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!



Andit bilatena ye 15 amet lij

A young girl of 15

Getan weledechihew bemelakit awaj

She gave birth to the Lord, the angels heralding his birth

Behitum dingilina tewelede geta

Keeping sealed her virginity, the Lord is born

Alemin yemiyadin  ye sewoch alegneta!

The savior of the world, the pride of mankind!



Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!



Yeh alem be qalu ketefeterebet

 Great is his wisdom that created the world with His Word

Yibeltal tibebu amlak sew yehonebet

But Greater still is His wisdom that God became Man with

Endemin yigermal yihe Tewahedo !

How wondrous is this Union!

Ayenew amlakin endesew teweldo!

For we saw God born as Man!





Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!



Fitsum dingilina kibir yetemelach

Filled with glory and the perfect splendor of virginity

Endemin amlakin bemahitsen yazech?!

How did she contain God in her womb ?!

Alemin beqalu yefeteren geta

The Lord who created the world with this word

Weledechiw dingil yehewan alegneta

The very same she gave birth to, she who is the pride of eve



Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!




Anchi bilatena enatachin Maryam

O maiden  and our mother Mary

Bemidir tefelego endanchi aletegegnem

No one was found that was like you on earth

Behasab be gibir nitsuh silehonech

Found being pure in thought and deed

Le amlak maderiya dingil temeretech!

The Virgin was chosen to be the bearer of God!



Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!



Fitsum dingilina kibir yetemelach

Filled with glory and the perfect splendor of virginity

Endemin amlakin bemahitsen yazech?!

How did she contain God in her womb ?!

Alemin beqalu yefeteren geta

The Lord who created the world with this word

Weledechiw dingil yehewan alegneta !

The very same she gave birth to, she who is the pride of eve!



Tewelede! Geta tewelede!

He is born! The Lord is born!

Tewelede! Amlak tewelede!

He is born! God is born!


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Glory be to the Father and  the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 16, 2012, 02:22:30 AM
Reading paraphrased excerpts from “the Faith of the Fathers ,from St. Cyril / Haymanote abew ze Kiyrllos/ ” and the Gospel of St.  Luke “ Dingil fetariwan weledechiw.  ersum yefeterewin siga meleso tewahadew. bebetelehem girgim yeneberewin girum mistir iyasebech enatu maryamim belibuwa titebeqe neber’’/ the Virgin gave birth to her Creator. He united himself to the flesh that he created. His mother Mary kept the glorious secret seen in the manger of Bethlehem and pondered it in her heart’’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdzcJaYGAXI&feature=related


Dingil fetariwan weledechiw

The virgin gave birth to her Creator

Bemeteqeleyam teqelelechiw

And wrapped him with a swaddling cloth

Yelemina sifra le engedoch marefiya

For there was no place of shelter for strangers

Girgim astegnachiw bekebetoch maderiya

She laid him to sleep in the stables of the animals



Cheneqat tebebat ye Dawit ketema

the city of David, became overwhelmed

Yegeta meweled tameru sisema

When she heard the news of the Lord’s Birth, hearing this wonder

Werede melaku miserach liyaawera

The angel descended to bring the good news,

Ye hitsanum kibir bemidir abera

As the Glory of the Child shined for the World.

Yieh mistir girum new keto mayeneger

Glorious is this mystery, no words can describe it

Maryamim belibuwa titebiqew neber

And Mary kept the secret in her heart



Dingil fetariwan weledechiw

The virgin gave birth to her Creator

Bemeteqeleyam teqelelechiw

And wrapped him with a swaddling cloth
 
Yelemina sifra le engedoch marefiya

For there was no place of shelter for strangers

Girgim astegnachiw bekebetoch maderiya

She laid him to sleep in the stables of the animals



Sebeasegel metu keruq misraq hager

The wise men came from the east

Werq etan kerebewin lersu lemegeber

To do homage they brought him gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh

Be enatum eqif agegnut hitsanun

They found the Child in the embrace of his mother

Lealem tenageru nigus meweledun

And they proclaimed to the world that a King is Born

Yih mitstir girum new keto mayineger

Glorious is this mystery, no words can describe it

Maryamim belibuwa titebeqew neber

And Mary kept the secret in her heart.



Dingil fetariwan weledechiw

The virgin gave birth to her Creator

Bemeteqeleyam teqelelechiw

And wrapped him with a swaddling cloth

Yelemina sifra le engedoch marefiya

For there was no place of shelter for strangers

Girgim astegnachiw bekebetoch maderiya

She laid him to sleep in the stables of the animals


Yeyehuda midir misganan temola

The land of Judea was filled with praise of thanksgiving

Nigus metuwalina ke nazereth gelilla

For the king has come from Nazareth Galilee

Tamirun tinager betelehem tawera

Let Bethlehem tell of his marvelous deed
 
Zimare siwetat tereseto qotera

for she has been engulfed with the song of His praise that made her  forget  the gloom of the census



Dingil fetariwan weledechiw

The virgin gave birth to her Creator

Bemeteqeleyam teqelelechiw

And wrapped him with a swaddling cloth

Yelemina sifra le engedoch marefiya

For there was no place of shelter for strangers

Girgim astegnachiw bekebetoch maderiya

She laid him to sleep in the stables of the animals




yemayetay taye tedassesse endessew

The unseen is seen, the untouchable is touched like men

Betebabu deret Adamin meselew

With his narrow chest he became like Adam

Geremat tibebu tanashewan mushira

The young bride marveled at his wisdom

Tewaheduwalina Qal ke siga gara

For United is the Word with Flesh.



Dingil fetariwan weledechiw

The virgin gave birth to her Creator

Bemeteqeleyam teqelelechiw

And wrapped him with a swaddling cloth

Yelemina sifra le engedoch marefiya

For there was no place of shelter for strangers

Girgim astegnachiw bekebetoch maderiya

She laid him to sleep in the stables of the animals


...........///................

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 16, 2012, 02:28:44 AM
the Last one for today  8) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxI5-_N6v6Y



Ye Ab Qal akiberosh

You are the one whom The Word of the Father honored

Enatu yaderegesh

And made you his mother

Egziabher be Qalu fitsum yakeberesh

God the Father truly glorified you with his Word

Yeminemekabish meselal anchi nesh/2x/

And you are the ladder that we take pride on./2x/




Qidisina lanchi tsedeqim lanchi hono

Purity is yours and yours is righteousness

Alemin yefetere be anchi teweseno

The creator of the world contained in you

Yegenet fire nesh hiwot yaferash

You are like the seed of Eden who brought forth the fruit of life

Anchin lemerete anchin lanetsash

For the One who chose you, for the One who purified you

Misgana yidresew lecheru amlakish/2x/

Glory be to your God who is good./2x/




Ye Ab Qal akiberosh

You are the one whom The Word of the Father honored

Enatu yaderegesh

And made you his mother

Egziabher be Qalu fitsum yakeberesh

God the Father truly glorified you with his Word

Yeminemekabish meselal anchi nesh/2x/

And you are the ladder that we take pride on./2x/





Adam yenorebish ye Edom genet nesh

You are like the paradise Adam lived in

Ye epheson wenze werq yemifelqibish

Like the golden river of Ephesus
 
Ye Gihon maebel Ethiopian yekebebesh

Like The tide of Gihon surrounding Ethiopia

Yordanosin honesh ahizabin fewesesh

Like Jordan brining healing to the gentiles

Belijum Qalinet Abim akeberesh/2x/

Yeah by His Son: the Word, the Father glorified you.




Ye Ab Qal akiberosh

You are the one whom The Word of the Father honored

Enatu yaderegesh

And made you his mother

Egziabher be Qalu fitsum yakeberesh

God the Father truly glorified you with his Word

Yeminemekabish meselal anchi nesh/2x/

And you are the ladder that we take pride on./2x/







Meazashin wedo Weld wahid wajesh

Favoring your fragrance the One Son made you His

Abbim be semayat be hilinaw tsafesh

And The Father in heaven wrote you in His mind

Menfes Qidus metto  anchin akeberesh

The Holy Spirit came over you and glorified you.

Emekabishalehu ‘ Emebete’ silish !/2x/

And I take great pride in calling you ‘my Lady’!/2x/




Weld bemewededu kanchi meweledu

Out His of Love the Son chose to be born from you

Nitsuh hono agegnetot qidusun sigashin

Finding you pure and holy

Le Qalu maderiya tsilat ena tabot

To make you the dwelling place of the Word, for you are like the tablet and the Ark

Beberuh demena temeseleshilet

Your likeness that of the bright Cloud

Ke sigash tekefelo kedemish dem wesedo

He took flesh of your flesh, blood of your blood

Kenefesishim  nefse fetsum Tewahedo!/2x/

Soul of your soul in The Perfect Union!/2x/



.......///..........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 19, 2012, 10:57:34 PM
My dears, I wish you a blessed Feast of Epiphany!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqIx2ZteOwA

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

eyut tihetenawin tsidequn temeleketu  / behold his humility , see his righteousness
bebaryaw ej hono yegeta timqetu / that made the Baptism of the Lord by the hand of his servant

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan


ante menagneu sew qidus bahetawi/ O you who have renounced the world, Holy Solitary.
bejeih tetemqo Eyesus nazrawi /  by your hand Jesus the Nazarene is baptized.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

tesewero sale ke’alem teleyeto/  of what was hidden before, from the eyes of the world
 awajun simu ale begun asayito/  he said hear the proclamation, and showed the Lamb.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan


neseha  eyegebu  iyetenazezu/  repenting and confessing of their sins
beYohannis  sebeket le Egziabher tegezu/ by the teachings of John they submitted to God.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

yesemayun  getta  midrawi  siyatemeqew/ When the heavenly Lord was baptized by the Earthly
mistyir tegelete alem hulu aweqew/  The Mystery is revealed and the whole world knew of it.

............///...........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 19, 2012, 11:03:47 PM
I love your translations.  Have a happy Timket!   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on January 20, 2012, 12:01:14 AM
My dears, I wish you a blessed Feast of Epiphany!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqIx2ZteOwA

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

eyut tihetenawin tsidequn temeleketu  / behold his humility , see his righteousness
bebaryaw ej hono yegeta timqetu / that made the Baptism of the Lord by the hand of his servant

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan


ante menagneu sew qidus bahetawi/ O you who have renounced the world, Holy Solitary.
bejeih tetemqo Eyesus nazrawi /  by your hand Jesus the Nazarene is baptized.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

tesewero sale ke’alem teleyeto/  of what was hidden before, from the eyes of the world
 awajun simu ale begun asayito/  he said hear the proclamation, and showed the Lamb.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan


neseha  eyegebu  iyetenazezu/  repenting and confessing of their sins
beYohannis  sebeket le Egziabher tegezu/ by the teachings of John they submitted to God.

Yohanneseni  yatemiq/2x/ /John was baptizing
Be henon  /4x/  in AEnon
bemaedote yordanos /  and teaching  in Jordan

yesemayun  getta  midrawi  siyatemeqew/ When the heavenly Lord was baptized by the Earthly
mistyir tegelete alem hulu aweqew/  The Mystery is revealed and the whole world knew of it.

............///...........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen.



This is one officially one my favorites.  Thank you  :)  It truly helped me meditate on the importance of the Forerunner's mission, in comparison with the Theotokos.  The Theotokos brought Christ to the world.  The Forerunner brought the world to Christ.  Happy Timket Hiwot!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 25, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
Thank you dear Salpy :)

 Dear Mina, I am glad you liked it, its one of my favorites as well.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 25, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
I love this mezmur  :angel:

Mezmur by Deacon tizitaw Samuel, Zemari Ezra, and Zemari Hawaz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nUhInh8JIQ


Kibre qidusan ye’eti /2x/ kibre qidusan / She is the honor of the Saints
Mudaye manna girum /2x/the vessel of the wondrous Manna
Mudaye manna / the vessel of the Manna


Yeqidusanu kibir neshina/ for you are the honor of the Saints
Enseteshalen qine misgana/ we bring you hymn of praise
Yeweledeshelen ye hiwot manna/ you are the one who gave birth for us the Manna of Life
Zinab yalebish tanash demena/ you are the little cloud carrying the Rain

Mudaye manna girum/2x/ the vessel of the wondrous Manna
Mudaye manna / the vessel of the Manna

Tihitina libsish fiqir wubetish/ Humility  your vestment, Love your resplendent beauty
Tsins yazelelal selamta dimtsesh/ the sound of your peaceful greeting makes the babe in the womb leap for joy
Esatun  weldesh esat taqefeshal/ You: gave birth to the Fire; You: embraced the Fire in your bosom
Sanzemerelish meche yimeshal/  what day goes by, without us singing in praise of you?!

Mudaye manna girum/ The vessel of the Wondrous Manna
Mudaye manna/ the vessel of the Manna

Yetsehay mewecha misraq honesh/ you are the East the Sun rose from
Talaqun birehan ayenebishe/ from which we saw the Great Light
Atichelemem hiwotachin/ no longer shall our lives be in darkness
Lijish eskale tsehayachin/ so long as we have your Son, who is our Sun

Mudaye manna girum/2x/ the vessel of the Wondrous Manna
Mudaye manna/ the vessel of the Manna

Se’ali lene selam leki/ entreat for us, peace be upon you
Temahetsena bekidaneki/ for we have put ourselves under your protection
Ne’ei regebeye misele weldeki/ O My Dove, come with your Son
Semaye wemedir yawedesuki/ and let heaven and earth praise you!

Kibre qidusan ye’eti /2x/ kibre qidusan / She is the honor of the Saints
Mudaye manna girum /2x/the vessel of the wondrous Manna
Mudaye manna / the vessel of the Manna


Closing prayer:
Endedemena yekebebu elif aelafat qidusan be zufanih zuriya tekemachetew anten bicha yamelkalu
Kibrina misgana amlekot ena wudasem hul gizem lante yihun lezelealemu amen/
Ten thousand times ten thousand of saints surround your throne like clouds and worship you alone O God, Glory and Praise, Worship and Thanksgiving be to you for all time and unto the ages of ages amen
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 25, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Mezmur by Estephanos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rDB0kJGd0Y&feature=related

Reading from the book of Daniel 7:9 ““As I looked,
thrones were placed,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat;
his clothing was white as snow,
and the hair of his head like pure wool;
his throne was fiery flames;
its wheels were burning fire.


Bezemenat yeshemegele/ The  Ancient of Days
 kibrin hulu yeteqelele/  encompassing of ALL Glory
Ende Geta ere man ale?!/Who is Like The Lord?!
Ende Egziabher ere man ale?!/Who is Like God?!

Tilobignal megonatsefiya/ He has put on His mantel on me
Leyetognal ke siga tidfiya/ and separated me from the race of the flesh
Besew mizan kibrin mayeleka/ He does not weigh worth by the measurement of men
Ewenetegna geta new leka!/ indeed  He is the True Lord


Bezemenat yeshemegele/ The  Ancient of Days
 kibrin hulu yeteqelele/  encompassing of ALL Glory
Ende Geta ere man ale?!/Who is Like The Lord?!
Ende Egziabher ere man ale?!/Who is Like God?!

Demena new menkorakuru / Cloud is His chariot
Nebelbal new zufan menberu/ flaming fire is the Altar of His Throne
Meseweriyaw ayederesim/ He conceals himself with heights unapproachable
Bemanim mot ayekesesim/ He cannot be accused of anyone’s death.

Bezemenat yeshemegele/ The  Ancient of Days
 kibrin hulu yeteqelele/  encompassing of ALL Glory
Ende Geta ere man ale?!/Who is Like The Lord?!
Ende Egziabher ere man ale?!/Who is Like God?!


Qen zemenat hulu siyareju/ days and ages grow old
Addisochu zebnew sijaju/ the new ones quickly age and are debilitated
Geta addis new hulem maleda/  yet the Lord is ever New , fresh like the new  morning
Fiqr yazenbal ke libu guada/ from the depth of His heart pours forth Love


Bezemenat yeshemegele/ The  Ancient of Days
 kibrin hulu yeteqelele/  encompassing of ALL Glory
Ende Geta ere man ale?!/Who is Like The Lord?!
Ende Egziabher ere man ale?!/Who is Like God?!


Mekanitun be lij bareke/ He blessed the barren with children
Hayelegnawin anberekeke/ He made the mighty bow down
Lemiskinoch silemirara/ because He is compassionate to the poor
Be Eyesus libachin kora/ our hearts take pride in Jesus.


Bezemenat yeshemegele/ The  Ancient of Days
 kibrin hulu yeteqelele/  encompassing of ALL Glory
Ende Geta ere man ale?!/Who is Like The Lord?!
Ende Egziabher ere man ale?!/Who is Like God?!


........///........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on February 04, 2012, 01:20:38 AM
Syriac Hymn sung by Malankara Syriac Orthodox Seminarians
http://youtu.be/UkzDPwq4PfA (http://youtu.be/UkzDPwq4PfA)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on February 04, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
I guess this a good place as any to start. Linked is the Dialogue of the Two Thieves, pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. It's traditionally sung by two deacons during Good Friday services in the Indian tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJCe-9ARKGo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJCe-9ARKGo)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 05, 2012, 01:15:42 AM
Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on February 13, 2012, 01:51:11 PM
ԿՈՄԻՏԱՍ "ՍՈՒՐԲ, ՍՈՒՐԲ" - KOMITAS, "SURB, SURB"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiR3vizvkZU


by the National Chamber Choir of Armenia

http://www.armchoir.com/#!/en/ (http://www.armchoir.com/#!/en/)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on February 13, 2012, 01:58:43 PM
I guess this a good place as any to start. Linked is the Dialogue of the Two Thieves, pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. It's traditionally sung by two deacons during Good Friday services in the Indian tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJCe-9ARKGo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJCe-9ARKGo)

Welcome to the forum, sheenj. That is truly beautiful!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 17, 2012, 11:09:58 PM
O Monogenes in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfKmN43UkI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on February 18, 2012, 10:53:25 PM
The Gospel of Palm Sunday - Syriac Orthodox church

Kashisho (Priest) Kenan Budak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4r4YIU6BLo&feature=plcp&context=C3519e45UAOEgsToPDskJs7pduRYW5-YcJNmVz7_9g

N. B. Watch what the children do near the end of the reading.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on February 18, 2012, 11:06:41 PM
Part of the Evening Service of Great Friday - Syriac Rite

"We bow to the Cross which gave salvation for our souls.
And together with the thief we say: Oh Christ, remember us when You come."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=imqMtoL2l0o
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on February 18, 2012, 11:16:18 PM
I'm not sure what to make of this song about the Mother of God.  It uses modern instrumentation which I normally don't like.  Also, much of the imagery in the video is not from the Armenian Orthodox tradition.  Still, there is something about it that that I liked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIeyL1waY88

I think at least part of it is filmed in Jerusalem.

Nazareth, Bethlehem and Jerusalem in that order. Beautiful!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on February 19, 2012, 02:32:14 AM
One more this evening:

The Hoosoyo (Prayers for mercy) and the Blessing of the Censer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXzxxBgxv_0

This parish is in Germany and seems to maintain a high standard of liturgical practice.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 03, 2012, 10:23:06 PM
A Coptic hymn in English, from the website of the American Orthodox Church:

http://stpauloc.org/?p=43
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on March 04, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
so beautiful, brigidsboy.
does anyone know the translation of this? i find the syriac orthodox liturgy and hymns in aramaic very beautiful.
schlomo!
(peace).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on March 04, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Mabsoota:

http://sor.cua.edu/Liturgy/Anaphora/PubCeleb.html (http://sor.cua.edu/Liturgy/Anaphora/PubCeleb.html)

This is the English translation of the first part of the Holy Qurbono. Scroll halfway down to the section titled "Proemion." The video starts with the non-celebrant Priest chanting the Deacon's line:
"Before the merciful Lord, before His absolving altar and before these Holy and Divine Mysteries, incense is offered by the hands of this reverend priest. Let us pray and beseech the Lord for grace and mercy."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on March 10, 2012, 01:25:13 PM
St. Paul American Orthodox Church has youtube videos that teach hymns in English:

http://www.youtube.com/stpauloc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on March 10, 2012, 02:39:25 PM
thanks sheenj for the translation.
i now understand why it is so beautiful.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 10, 2012, 08:04:38 PM
The Coptic Fraction chanted during Lenten liturgies (called "Fraction prayers" because during this time while the priest is chanting these words, he is also breaking the Body of Christ into smaller pieces to prepare for the Eucharist) by Fr. Boula Malek in Arabic, done in what I believe was a well-put together youtube video with a good translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcCiwBXI8M&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on March 10, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
Very beautiful! Thank you, Mina. Is this fraction for the Apostles fast and feast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2-iqilyaK0) also sung by Fr. Boula? The voice sounds similar to me (plus it was in the "related videos" sidebar).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 10, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Very beautiful! Thank you, Mina. Is this fraction for the Apostles fast and feast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2-iqilyaK0) also sung by Fr. Boula? The voice sounds similar to me (plus it was in the "related videos" sidebar).

Yes, in fact, this youtube user seems to love Fr. Boula pretty much.  All the videos he has are all by him.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on March 17, 2012, 10:21:42 AM

The Coptic Fraction chanted during Lenten liturgies (called "Fraction prayers" because during this time while the priest is chanting these words, he is also breaking the Body of Christ into smaller pieces to prepare for the Eucharist) by Fr. Boula Malek in Arabic, done in what I believe was a well-put together youtube video with a good translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcCiwBXI8M&feature=related

Thank you for posting this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-A4_txBIoU - I really enjoy this recording of the coptic lenten fraction. But if I'm not mistaken, this one is for the weekdays and the previous one for the Sundays. Anyway, both are truly spiritual, in terms of the lyrics and of the way of chanting.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 17, 2012, 04:42:55 PM

The Coptic Fraction chanted during Lenten liturgies (called "Fraction prayers" because during this time while the priest is chanting these words, he is also breaking the Body of Christ into smaller pieces to prepare for the Eucharist) by Fr. Boula Malek in Arabic, done in what I believe was a well-put together youtube video with a good translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcCiwBXI8M&feature=related

Thank you for posting this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-A4_txBIoU - I really enjoy this recording of the coptic lenten fraction. But if I'm not mistaken, this one is for the weekdays and the previous one for the Sundays. Anyway, both are truly spiritual, in terms of the lyrics and of the way of chanting.
It's the same one  ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on March 22, 2012, 09:11:52 AM
Shenoute to Makariou  (Shenouda the Blessed)

http://youtu.be/lAkfXM7c6yc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on March 23, 2012, 07:44:59 AM
Pope Shenouda wrote this poem while he was still a layman. It's calld "A stranger" or sometimes translated as "An Outlander".

Here is HH reading it with an on screen English translation
http://youtu.be/Qg_2X9GG8JQ

And here it is turned into a song
http://youtu.be/1NJgefSBXks

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on March 24, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
really beautiful.
many of his poems were way over my head (i'm no artist!) but this one is simple and beautiful.
now he is listening, face to face to God's poetry and enjoying the greater beauty that we can enjoy too if we also follow our Lord Jesus Christ to the end of our lives.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on March 26, 2012, 09:53:50 AM
Another poem of HH Pope Shenouda put to music

I love You, O Lord in Arabic (Ahebuk Ya Rab)
http://youtu.be/JCjWb7FWAWs

I love You, O Lord, in my solitude
You call to my heart by the depth of Your words
I love You, O Lord, in my tribulations
And in my time of need, and in the time of pain
I love You, O Lord, in my repentance
and in the time of tears, and the time of regret
I love You, O Lord, in the time of prosperity
I love You, O Lord, in the time of destitution
I love You whilst the palace is being built for me
and also whilst it is collapsing and being destroyed
I love You, the Heart Who binds my wound
and rejoice when the wound heals
I love You, the Spirit Who hovers around me
Who grants my soul the deepest graces


The facebook page where I found the wonderful translation:

Pope Shenouda's Poems
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pope-Shenoudas-Poems/119317074754460 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pope-Shenoudas-Poems/119317074754460)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on March 27, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
Released only yesterday, this short film offers highlights of the Armenian Matins Service for the Feast of the Nativity. A spectacular choir from the Holy Trinity Church in Constantinople.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoG_eiEZJv0&list=FLKDwcqV_dwT0pBZtljSNwkw&index=1&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoG_eiEZJv0&list=FLKDwcqV_dwT0pBZtljSNwkw&index=1&feature=plpp_video)
Title: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: fadyadel215 on April 08, 2012, 09:13:02 AM
Christ has risen hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJaV6sZ5Bo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJaV6sZ5Bo)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 11:13:47 AM
Khen Ephran - Coptic hymn for the Holy Week

http://youtu.be/VKP6wTpwMTI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 11:15:19 AM
Released only yesterday, this short film offers highlights of the Armenian Matins Service for the Feast of the Nativity. A spectacular choir from the Holy Trinity Church in Constantinople.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoG_eiEZJv0&list=FLKDwcqV_dwT0pBZtljSNwkw&index=1&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoG_eiEZJv0&list=FLKDwcqV_dwT0pBZtljSNwkw&index=1&feature=plpp_video)

Spectacular indeed! Thanks for sharing that.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
Lamentations of Jeremiah (in English)

http://youtu.be/1oJRRGs-Rog
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 12:55:27 PM
Lamentation of Jeremiah (in Arabic)

http://youtu.be/HCh6NL5RxB4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on April 09, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
thank u for khen efran!
am away at the moment, and have been to a lovely romanian church but am missing my dear coptic church.
yes, even the 'ooooo eeeee aaaaa ooooo' songs!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
thank u for khen efran!
am away at the moment, and have been to a lovely romanian church but am missing my dear coptic church.
yes, even the 'ooooo eeeee aaaaa ooooo' songs!

That's most of our hymns  ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on April 09, 2012, 02:23:24 PM
except 'thoak ta ti gom' (yrs is the power), 'the burning bush' and about 100 others...
 ;)
i can't wait to get home and sing thoak ta ti gom!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 09, 2012, 02:39:20 PM
Khen Ephran - Coptic hymn for the Holy Week

http://youtu.be/VKP6wTpwMTI

I'm the author of this presentation ;) Although I'm an Eastern Orthodox, I love coptic hymns for the Holy Week, especially this one ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 09, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
Khen Ephran - Coptic hymn for the Holy Week

http://youtu.be/VKP6wTpwMTI

I'm the author of this presentation ;) Although I'm an Eastern Orthodox, I love coptic hymns for the Holy Week, especially this one ;)

Very well done, Dominika! Thank you so much. I hope you can do some more in the future.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on April 09, 2012, 03:02:04 PM
hey, thanks, and God bless u.
i'm coptic and i have been in an eastern orthodox church today (and yesterday)
 :)
and i love the eastern orthodox people and religious rites.

also i am glad to 'know' such a famous person as u!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on April 09, 2012, 11:56:15 PM
Hosanna in the "Je Nai Nan" tune, chanted by Fr. Antonious Tanious of Manville, NJ and Manhattan, NY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbWq7OVUB-4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 10, 2012, 05:44:13 AM
I'm so glad you enjoy it :) If I have more time, for sure I'll make more ;)

That's great mabsoota you love our rites, it shows that we're all truly Orthodox Christians. I wish one day I could attend some Coptic services of the Holy Pascha Week :) And I have to admit I'm a simple person (or better: I try to be).

Have a blessed Holy Week :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on April 10, 2012, 08:40:17 PM
Selam everyone

a couple of mezmurs for the passion week. its a wonderful week to meditate on what all the Holy Scriptures say with One voice in the Holy Spirit about the Christ the Redeemer of the world and what that means to everyone of us. the following two mezmures try to integrate some of what is said and read during the Holy Friday service within their mezmurs. the reading done is read with a wurd nibab/ using a melancholic tone of reading the scriptures.... on the second mezmur( like the Friday service) prostrations are intended to accompany each of the kyrie eleison/ Lord have mercy split between two groups as one group prostrates the other rises up and says the other half of the prayer .... or in private one can do it alone also...God bless you all.


Without beauty. Mezmur by Deacon Theodoros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfNgp4SQVpk&feature=relmfu

Getaye hone dem gibat aleba
My Lord was like a man without beauty
Jerebaw bejiraf silene dema
His back he gave to the whip and bled for me
Yenen megeref ersu tegerefo
 Flogged for me
Kibr alebesegne ersu tegefo/2x/
As he was stripped off his garments he vested me with glory./2x/


Behaset shenego wetemed tetemedo
 The council of the deceitful laid a snare
Geta teyaze hiwoten feqedo
Because his will is that I live, for my sake the Lord got held
Kifuwoch biyayut ende wenebede
Though the wicked saw him as a criminal
Lene gin honuwal mewecha medehene/2x/
 But for me he is the way of my escape
Taserehal silene Eyesus medehene/2x/
For my sake you were bound Jesus my Savior./2x/


Mezmure Dawit 21/22: 17 Agetuni kelebat bizuhan
Psalm 21(22) :17 For many dogs surrounded me;
Wa’ahazuni maheberomu le ekuyan
An assembly of evildoers enclosed me.
Agetuni kelebat bizuhan
For many dogs surrounded me


Getaye hone dem gibat aleba
My Lord was like a man without beauty
Jerebaw bejiraf silene dema
His back he gave to the whip and bled for me
Yenen megeref ersu tegerefo
 Flogged for me
Kibr alebesegne ersu tegefo/2x/
As he was stripped off his garments he vested me with glory./2x/


Sizebetubet miraq sitefu
As they mocked and spat on him
Yemayedefer deferew sizelefu
He who is feared by all, they dared to blaspheme
Bekebebut fit qal kelekele
Surrounded by these he uttered not a word
Ene enedenager ersu zim ale
So I may be able to speak he remained silent.
Tardehal silene Eyesus medehene/2x/
For my sake you were slain Jesus my Savior. /2x/

Mezmure Dawit 21/22:17 Qenewouni edeweye wa’egereye
Psalm21/22: 17 They pierced my hands and my feet
Waholequ kulu aetsemeteye
and they counted all my bones
qenewouni edeweye wa'egereye
they pierced my hands and my feet.

Getaye hone dem gibat aleba
My Lord was like a man without beauty
Jerebaw bejiraf silene dema
His back he gave to the whip and bled for me
Yenen megeref ersu tegerefo
 Flogged for me
Kibr alebesegne ersu tegefo/2x/
As he was stripped off his garments he vested me with glory./2x/


Hiwot menechetuwal tewegeto gonu
Life has poured  forth from  his pierced side
Lekesashochum terefuwal madanu
He healing power overflowed even to those who accused him
Ej egerun mismar sichenekerew
As his hands and feet were pierced by nails
Ye motin eshoh kene neqelew
He plucked out the thorn of death from me.
Tewegah silene Eyesus medehene/2x/
For my sake you were pierced Jesus my Savior./2x/

Mezmure Dawit 68/69:22 wa’wedeyu hamote wuste mebeleye
Psalm 68(69):22 they gave me gall for my food
Wa’asteyuni behe’a letsimeye
And they gave me vinegar for my drink.
Wa’wedeyu hamote wuste mebeleye
They gave me gall for my food.


Getaye hone dem gibat aleba
My Lord was like a man without beauty
Jerebaw bejiraf silene dema
His back he gave to the whip and bled for me
Yenen megeref ersu tegerefo
 Flogged for me
Kibr alebesegne ersu tegefo/2x/
As he was stripped off his garments he vested me with glory./2x/


Ereqanun hono fetelew libsen
As he stood naked he weaved my vestment
Endihu wedogne teta homtaten
Because he loved me he took vinegar for his drink
Bemieheretu t’el nefesen areketo
He satiated my soul with the dew of his mercy
Alemelemegne ersu tetemeto
He vivified me with this thirst
Tetemah silene Eyesus medehene/2x/
For my sake you were thirsty Jesus my Savior./2x/

............///...........







Kyrie eleison mezmur by Deacon Behailu Tebeje.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJsBFjDRlY


Kyrie eleison  / kyriailaison
Kyrie Eleison/ kyriailaison
Kyrie Eleison/ kyriailaison


Kyriailaison/2x/ Ammanuel geta
Kyrie Eleison/2/ Emmanuel the Lord
Kyriailaison/2x/ betifi temeta
Kyrie Eleison/2x/ was slapped on the face
Kyriailaison/2x/ alemin litadeg
Kyrie Eleison /2x/ to save the world
Kyriailaison/2x/ teneda ende beg
Kyrie Eleison /2x/ he was led like a Lamb
Kyriailaison/2x/ Adamin lifewis
Kyrie Eleison/2x/ To heal Adam
Kyriailaison/2x/ qome ke pilatos
Kyrie Eleison/2x/ he stood before Pilot


 Mezemure Dawit 34/35 Gife’omu eggzio le’ele yiegefe’uni , Kyriailaison!
 (Psalm 34/35) Contend O Lord, with those Who contend with me; Kyrie Eleison!
Tsibe’omu eggzio  le’ele yetsebe’uni, Kyriailaison!
 Fight against those who fight against me.  Kyrie Eleison!
Gife’omu eggzio le’ele yigefe’uni, Kyriailaison!
Contend O Lord with those who contend with me. Kyrie Eleison!



Kyriailaison/ Kyrie eleison
Kyriailaison/ Kyrie Eleison
Kyriailaison/ Kyrie Eleison



Kyriailaison/2x/ ejun chenekerut
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ They nailed his hands
Kyriailaison/2x/ atintun qoterut
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ They have numbered all his bones
Kyriailaison/2x/ yeshoh aklil defeto
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Crowned with a crown of thorns
Kyriailaison/2x/ gedayun ereto
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Conquered Death
Kyriailaison/2x/ yehulachinin bedel
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ All our transgressions
 Kyriailaison/2x/teshare be’ ersu qusil
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Are wiped out by his wounds.



Mezmure Dawit 21/22:17-18  qenewouni edewiye wa egereye , Kyriailaison!
Psalm 21/22 :17-18 They pierced my hands and my feet. Kyrie Eleison!
Wa holoqu kulo aetsemeteye! Kyriailaison!
They have numbered all my bones. Kyrie Eleison!
Qenewouni edeweye wa egereye, Kyriailaison!
 They pierced my hands and my feet. Kyrie Eleison!



Kyriailaison /Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison/Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison/Kyrie Eleison!


Kyriailaison/2x/ eta tetatalu
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ They casted lots
Kyriailaison/2x/ lebesun tekafelu
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ They divided his garments among themselves
Kyriailaison/2x/lefirid tewesede
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ He was taken for judgment
Kyriailaison/2x/ edebeg tarede
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ And he was slain like a Lamb
Kyriailaison/2x/ lebeso kelemeda
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Robbed in Scarlet rob
Kyriailaison/2x/ tekefele eda
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ He paid  our ransom.


Mezmure Dawit 21/22:17 agetueni kelebat bizuhan. Kyriailaison!
Psalm 21/22:17 for Many dogs surrounded me;  Kyrie Eleison!
Wa’ahazuni maheberomu le ekuyan; Kyriailaison!
An assembly of evil doers enclosed me; Kyrie Eleison!
Agetueni kelebat bizuhan. Kyriailaison!
For many dogs surrounded me; Kyrie Eleison!


Kyriailaison / Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison/ Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison/ Kyrie Eleison!


Kyriailaison/2x/ hometaten atetut
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ For his drink they gave him vinegar
Kyriailaison/2x/ begemed gotetut
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Tying him with ropes they dragged him
Kyriailaison/2x/ bewenebedew fanta
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ In place of the criminal
Kyriailaison/2x/ Teseqele geta
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ The Lord was Crucified
Kyriailaison/2x/ hulum zebetubet
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ And all mocked him
Kyriailaison/2x/ bezele’alem Hiwot
Kyrie Eleison!/2x/ Who is the Eternal Life.


Mezmure Dawit 68/69:22 wa’we’deyu hamote wuste mebeleye. Kyriailaison!
Psalm 68/69:22 They gave me gall for my food, Kyrie Eleison!
Wa’ asteteyuni behe’a letsemeye. Kyriailaison!
And they gave me vinegar for my drink. Kyrie Eleison!
Wa’we’deyu hamote wuste mebeleye. Kyriailaison!
They gave me gall for my food, Kyrie Eleison!


Kyriailaison / Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison / Kyrie Eleison!
Kyriailaison / Kyrie Eleison!


..............///..........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on April 12, 2012, 08:52:33 PM
Selam beloved :)

‘Nitsuh Siga’ mezmur by Zerefe, is translated into Tigrigna and sung by Debre Geezen Medehane Alem Ertirean Orthodox Tewahedo Church Choir in Gezabanda Asmara I would like to thank the person who transcribed the Tigrigna lyrics on the video. I have included the Amharic version of the mezmur by Zerefe also. May the Lord bless them all and keep them steadfast in their service of Him and His Church. Amen.

TIGRIGNA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kke--_Hadsg

Nitsuh siga kebur dem
 Tekhefele le alem
 Kulu netsa wetsiu tefewisu bemedehane alem/2x/


Naye orit mesewaeti naye ensisa dem
Keheb zeyekealen hiwot neAdam
Eyesus Kirstos kab seamy weridu
Zefesese demu nemot awegidu

Nitsuh siga kebur dem
 Tekhefele le alem
 Kulu netsa wetsiu tefewisu bemedehane alem/2x/


Bzeye dem kerestos sele zeyenedehen
Seb kone almakena bezedeneq mistir
KabMaryam bemewesad nitsuh sigan demin

Nitsuh siga kebur dem
 Tekhefele le alem
 Kulu netsa wetsiu tefewisu bemedehane alem/2x/


Abreham kesew’e neti hade wadu
Ke’ezaz wesinu kefetsim feqadu
Keqwarits tnegero mesewaetu keyeqetsel
Be yeheshaq ayekonen medehan nayeza alem

Nitsuh siga kebur dem
 Tekhefele le alem
 Kulu netsa wetsiu tefewisu bemedehane alem/2x/

Nay nebeyatu mot naye tsadeqanu tsideqi
Keretsefo ayekelalen  neti naye mot minchi
Liqe kahenat baelu mesewaeti kayenuna
Bati kebur demu kab mot adehinuna

Nitsuh siga kebur dem
 Tekhefele le alem
 Kulu netsa wetsiu tefewisu bemedehane alem/2x/

………///………

AMHARIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-JAkVos0D8


Netsuh siga kibur dem
Tesete lealem
Hulum netsa weta tefewese bemedehane alem/2x/

Ye oritu mesewaet ye kebetochu dem
Mawej silalechale hiwot le Adam
Ye amlak lij Eyesus kesemay werede
Befesesew demu motin awardee

Netsuh siga kibur dem
Tesete lealem
Hulum netsa weta tefewese bemedehane alem/2x/


yaleKiristos dem sireyet yelemena
techino werede bekibir demean
kemaryam benesaw netsuh siga dem
edachinin talew lezele’alem

Netsuh siga kibur dem
Tesete lealem
Hulum netsa weta tefewese bemedehane alem/2x/


abreham lisewa lijun beterara
litamen weseno siyanesabet kara
kesemay tew alew endatadergew
beyehesaq ayedelem alem midenew


Netsuh siga kibur dem
Tesete lealem
Hulum netsa weta tefewese bemedehane alem/2x/


yenebeyatu mot yetsadeqanu tsidq
alechalem yemoten minchun lemadreq
andu liqe kahen ande metswaet hone
newer belelew dem layadagim dane.


Netsuh siga kibur dem
Tesete lealem
Hulum netsa weta tefewese bemedehane alem/2x/

………..///……….

The purest flesh and precious blood
Is given to the World
And all are liberated and healed by the Savior of the World.


Because the Law and the blood of the animals
Could not give Life to Adam
Jesus the Son of God descended from heaven
And with the shedding of His blood trampled down death.


The purest flesh and precious blood
Is given to the World
And all are liberated and healed by the Savior of the World.


For there is no salvation without the blood of Christ
He descended towards us carried by the purest cloud
By the Flesh and Blood He took from Mary
He freed us from our bondage, forever.


The purest flesh and precious blood
Is given to the World
And all are liberated and healed by the Savior of the World.


When Abraham tried to sacrifice his son on the mountain
Choosing to remain faithful and when he lifted the blade
From the heavens the Lord forbade him and told him not to do it
For the salvation of the world is not by Isaac’s blood.


The purest flesh and precious blood
Is given to the World
And all are liberated and healed by the Savior of the World.

 Neither the death of the prophets nor the sanctity of the saints
Could dry up death from its source.
The One High Priest offered up himself once in sacrifice for all,
And with the shedding of his pure undefiled blood saved us from death.


The purest flesh and precious blood
Is given to the World
And all are liberated and healed by the Savior of the World.

…………………///………………
Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 16, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
A Coptic Hymn of the Ressurection: Tolithos (Chanted in Greek)
http://youtu.be/4xlSYIxS7gI

While the stone was sealed by the Jews
and the soldiers were watching Your sacred body,
You rose, O Savior, on the third day, giving life to the world.
Wherefore, O Giver of Life, the Powers of Heaven cried out:
Glory to Your Resurrection, O Christ.
Glory to Your Kingdom.
Glory to Your Economy,
O Only Lover of Mankind!


In the EOC this same hymn is called, Troparia of the Resurrection - Tone One
http://youtu.be/NwRyBJaBowY

And here it is also in the Byzantine style, chanted in Arabic
http://youtu.be/GChlZpgY6j0

Just thought it was cool to learn that this was a common hymn.

PIKHRISTOS AFTONF! KHEN O METHMI AFTONF!
PIKHRISTOS ANNESTI! ALITHOS ANNESTI!
CHRIST IS RISEN! TRULY HE IS RISEN!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on April 21, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
A Coptic Hymn of the Ressurection: Tolithos (Chanted in Greek)
http://youtu.be/4xlSYIxS7gI

While the stone was sealed by the Jews
and the soldiers were watching Your sacred body,
You rose, O Savior, on the third day, giving life to the world.
Wherefore, O Giver of Life, the Powers of Heaven cried out:
Glory to Your Resurrection, O Christ.
Glory to Your Kingdom.
Glory to Your Economy,
O Only Lover of Mankind!


In the EOC this same hymn is called, Troparia of the Resurrection - Tone One
http://youtu.be/NwRyBJaBowY

And here it is also in the Byzantine style, chanted in Arabic
http://youtu.be/GChlZpgY6j0

Just thought it was cool to learn that this was a common hymn.

PIKHRISTOS AFTONF! KHEN O METHMI AFTONF!
PIKHRISTOS ANNESTI! ALITHOS ANNESTI!
CHRIST IS RISEN! TRULY HE IS RISEN!

From what I understand, HH Pope St. Kyrillos VI adopted this hymn from the Greek Church.  So this would be a very recent addition to the Coptic liturgical hymns.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on April 21, 2012, 04:05:53 PM
great idea, the multilingual resurrection hymn!
this (romanian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV4dvv-slPE

is basically the same as this (greek with coptic accent):
http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Hymns%2FMajor_Feasts_of_the_Lord%2FResurrection%2FA_Selection_of_Hymns_by_Ibrahim_Ayad_and_the_Chorus%2Ftrack06.1079.mp3

the first is the one i sang in the car on the way to church, the second in church  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on April 27, 2012, 01:04:27 PM
«Պարգեւատուն»  - Giver of Good Gifts

Hymn for Great Friday in the Armenian Rite.

(I am looking for a full translation. When I find it I will share it here.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keu3WNTx1MI&list=FLKDwcqV_dwT0pBZtljSNwkw&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on May 02, 2012, 12:53:24 PM
From what I understand, HH Pope St. Kyrillos VI adopted this hymn from the Greek Church.  So this would be a very recent addition to the Coptic liturgical hymns.

Thanks, Mina! I knew there were a number of hymns HH adopted from the Greeks, but didn't realize this was one of them.  Would you know any of the others?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 03, 2012, 08:03:03 PM
I know this is not paschal hymn, but today,today  I could not stop listening to it..I cant seem to stop the leaking as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL1lxH7s3Cw&feature=related
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 03, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
a beautiful hymn..

rabbi habibi sayedi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHFqQIanHlk

..
its almost midnight so..

Agios o Theos..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcftnHy1VY4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 04, 2012, 12:22:03 AM
You're right, Hiwot...it is almost midnight...and that means one thing...tasbeha! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3mBXJhxRoY) ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on May 04, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Since we've posted some of the Fraction Prayers, I'd be remiss without including one from Fr. Youssef Asaad.

Fraction Prayer for the Feast of the Resurrection & The Holy Fifty Days

Master, Lord, God Almighty, the Father of our
Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ, Who
through His Cross descended into Hades and
restored Adam and his children to paradise.
He buried us with Him, and through His death,
He abolished the power of death, and
on the third day He rose from the dead.

He appeared to Mary Magdalene and spoke
with her in this manner, "Tell my brethren that
they go to Galilee, and there shall they see Me.

The archangel descended from heaven, and
rolled the stone from the door of the tomb and
proclaimed the good news to the women
carrying the spices saying,

"Christ is risen from the dead,
by death trampling upon Death, and
has bestowed life upon those in the tomb."

He breathed in the face of His saintly disciples
and pure Apostles and saying, "Receive the
Holy Spirit. Whose sins you will remit, they are
remitted to them, and those which you will
retain, they shall be retained."

Therefore, we ask You, our Master, purify us
from all hypocrisy, that, with a pure heart, we
dare with boldness, without fear, to entreat
You, o God the Father, Who are in the heavens
and say: Our Father Who art in Heaven...


http://youtu.be/hMve8-qaD0g
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on May 04, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
Fr. Youssef Asaad - The Prayer of Reconciliation from the Liturgy of St. Gregory

“O You, Who are, Who were, Who continue unto the age,
the Self-existent, Consubstantial, Co-enthroned
and Co-creator with the Father.

Who for goodness alone, brought man into being from what was not.
And You placed him in the paradise of joy.

But after he had fallen by the guile of the enemy,
and the disobedience toward Your Holy commandment
and when You willed to renew him,
and restore him to his original rank:
-neither an angel, nor an archangel, nor a patriarch,
nor a prophet did You entrust with our salvation.

But You Yourself, without change, took flesh and became man,
and resembled us in everything except sin alone
You became for us a Mediator with the Father,
and the middle wall of division, You have broken down;
And the old enmity, You have abolished.

You reconciled the earthly with the heavenly,
and made the two into one,
and You completed the dispensation in the flesh.

And You ascended to the heavens bodily,
while You filled all with Your divinity.

You said to Your saintly disciples and apostles:
“My Peace I give to you, My Peace I leave with you.”

Grant this now also to us, O our Master,
and cleanse us from all blemish, all guile,
all hypocrisy, all evil, all malice
and the remembrance of evil entailing death.”


http://youtu.be/0GRyrzJKLY8


English translation taken from this article:

http://www.copticmedia.net/module-library-viewpub-tid-1-pid-352.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 04, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
From what I understand, HH Pope St. Kyrillos VI adopted this hymn from the Greek Church.  So this would be a very recent addition to the Coptic liturgical hymns.

Thanks, Mina! I knew there were a number of hymns HH adopted from the Greeks, but didn't realize this was one of them.  Would you know any of the others?
Ton Ceena narkon in Easter also and EeParthenos in Christmas
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 04, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
awesome dhzeremi :D

Wonderful you guys! keep it comming  :angel:
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on May 12, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
I don't know if this has been posted already but this is a great song commemorating the fathers of the Orthodox Church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM&feature=related)

Lyrics (Malayalam)

Orthodukso vishwasam nischithamaay sthaapichoraam
Ignathios Agnimayan, njaanaarnava Theologos,
Nalluravakum Kurillos, kaanjanajeehvan Mar Ivanios,
Mar Basil, Gregorios, Mar Diascoros, Cleemis,
Mar Philexinos ulkrishtan Severios,
Ee nirmalathaathanmaarthan ormadhinangal
Aakhoshicheedam varuveen.

Translation:

Come let us celebrate the rememberance of our holy fathers who gave the true orthodox belief to the world.
We remember Ignatius the Fiery One and Theologos (I think this is St. Gregory the Theologian) the sea of wisdom.
Kyrillos the sweet waterfall and Ivanios the Golden Tongued.
We also remember Baselios and our master Gregorios (of Nyssa?)
as well as Diascorus, Clemis,
Philexinos and our illustrious Severus.
May God help us with their prayers.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 12, 2012, 08:12:43 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 12, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Dear sheenji I loved it! do you know if they are using a sepecific style of Indian music or is it mixed? I could not tell. Even to my untrained ears Hindustani music: the traditional/ ancient/ classical kind, is so rich and exqusit that it sends me into a trance like state in its complex and mezmerising melody.Thank you for sharing this beautiful hymn.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 12, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Yeah, that was fantastic, Sheenj. Thanks so much for it.

Is this the part of the thread where I admit that I love Syraic Orthodox Wedding songs like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn4JSezTa-k)? While I love the classical stuff like Hiwot mentioned, I've always been more of a film music/Bollywood guy (the classic 50-60s stuff), so I think some of the instrumentation and the duet format of a lot of the wedding songs I've heard strikes that same kind of nerve.

But I have heard a very small amount of Indian Christian music that was more obviously influenced by the classical music tradition, such as this song, sung in Telugu (http://tindeck.com/listen/cfgu) (sorry for the bad sound; it's from an old phonographic record). I don't think any of it is connected to the Indian Orthodox, though (Telugu is spoken on the opposite coast from Kerala, where the majority of Malayalam-speaking Syriac Orthodox are, and the only other Telugu Christian recordings I've heard are Protestant and Roman Catholic). I could be wrong, though, as I don't actually speak either of the languages concerned. I think it's still neat to hear either way, but sorry for dragging the thread off topic for a bit. To make up for it, here's a Coptic Orthodox hymn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3CfmguEuU) from the Midnight Praises/Tasbeha that's been on my mind all day since we read this portion from the Gospel of St. John today at liturgy. :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 12, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
dzheremi, check out the movie pinjar, its not classic, but the story line and the music is quite fabulous IMHO. it looks at one of the dark times in the history of that part of the world from a deeply intimate perspective. the story line is quite awesome, one Ethiopian woman I know is married to a Punjabi man, and she lent the DVD to me, and after listening to my review, she decided to get me a DVD with English subtitles from her suppliers.

those links are great BTW thank you :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on May 13, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
Dear sheenji I loved it! do you know if they are using a sepecific style of Indian music or is it mixed? I could not tell. Even to my untrained ears Hindustani music: the traditional/ ancient/ classical kind, is so rich and exqusit that it sends me into a trance like state in its complex and mezmerising melody.Thank you for sharing this beautiful hymn.  :)

I think the main melody is Indo-Syriac while the bass drone is from the Byzantine style.

Yeah, that was fantastic, Sheenj. Thanks so much for it.

Is this the part of the thread where I admit that I love Syraic Orthodox Wedding songs like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn4JSezTa-k)? While I love the classical stuff like Hiwot mentioned, I've always been more of a film music/Bollywood guy (the classic 50-60s stuff), so I think some of the instrumentation and the duet format of a lot of the wedding songs I've heard strikes that same kind of nerve.

But I have heard a very small amount of Indian Christian music that was more obviously influenced by the classical music tradition, such as this song, sung in Telugu (http://tindeck.com/listen/cfgu) (sorry for the bad sound; it's from an old phonographic record). I don't think any of it is connected to the Indian Orthodox, though (Telugu is spoken on the opposite coast from Kerala, where the majority of Malayalam-speaking Syriac Orthodox are, and the only other Telugu Christian recordings I've heard are Protestant and Roman Catholic). I could be wrong, though, as I don't actually speak either of the languages concerned. I think it's still neat to hear either way, but sorry for dragging the thread off topic for a bit. To make up for it, here's a Coptic Orthodox hymn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3CfmguEuU) from the Midnight Praises/Tasbeha that's been on my mind all day since we read this portion from the Gospel of St. John today at liturgy. :)

If you like wedding songs try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcFvWCtuU8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcFvWCtuU8s)
The prelate is singing in 6 different Languages: Tamil, English, Syriac, Kannada, Hindi, and Malayalam.

As to the Classical Indian style, the closest Christian thing in Malayalam would be the folk stuff like Margam Kali.
Here's a good video of a Margam Kali if you're interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXkHHHU6Uc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXkHHHU6Uc)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 13, 2012, 01:48:56 PM
Wow, great links, Sheenj! Thanks!

From the "related videos" of the last link I posted, here is cantor Gad Lewis (my favorite) reciting the verses of the cymbals in Coptic, with a very well put together video behind it, including the words in Coptic so that you can sing along too... (what do you mean, I'm the only one who does that?  :D)


Verses of Cymbals - أرباع الناقوس (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfOfJVbnUds&feature=related)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on May 13, 2012, 05:14:50 PM
Wow, great links, Sheenj! Thanks!

From the "related videos" of the last link I posted, here is cantor Gad Lewis (my favorite) reciting the verses of the cymbals in Coptic, with a very well put together video behind it, including the words in Coptic so that you can sing along too... (what do you mean, I'm the only one who does that?  :D)


Verses of Cymbals - أرباع الناقوس (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfOfJVbnUds&feature=related)

Thanks for the link, unfortunately I can't keep up with the Coptic lettering fast enough :(
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 13, 2012, 05:36:44 PM
Yeah, it can be a bit difficult to get used to the rhythm, so it's hard to follow along at first. With this particular hymn (as with many) the last syllable of the line is split, and half of it is appended to the beginning of the next line in the meter, so "Shere ne Maria" becomes "Shere ne-e-e Mari/i-ya ... [ti-chermobi e-e-e-e-eth-nesos]". It's little wonder that the Copts rely on rhythm-keeping instruments like the cymbal and the triangle as opposed to melody-producing instruments. :) And of course it doesn't help that there is a slight delay in some spots before the next line appears in the video. I still thought it was particularly well done, though.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Ergib on May 14, 2012, 07:36:12 PM

I love this  http://youtu.be/xjFsl0chPLw

It's more like a prayer....makes me tear up everytime i hear it.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 14, 2012, 07:54:48 PM
So beautiful! I really love Tewahedo mezmur. Is it possible to find such recordings outside of Ethiopia and Youtube videos? If it is, I would like to buy some in order to support the wonderful work of the church and its beautiful artists like Deacon Engidawork, Mirtinesh, and Zerfe Kebede. For the Copts, we have a few places on the internet connected to monasteries, like St. Moses bookstore connected to the Abbey in Texas (this is how they make their money, by selling CDs, books, etc), but I haven't seen anything like that for the Ethiopian Orthodox. Only some announcements on some church websites saying "this album is available in person at the church". I'm over a thousand miles from there... :'(

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Ergib on May 15, 2012, 10:46:16 AM
So beautiful! I really love Tewahedo mezmur. Is it possible to find such recordings outside of Ethiopia and Youtube videos? If it is, I would like to buy some in order to support the wonderful work of the church and its beautiful artists like Deacon Engidawork, Mirtinesh, and Zerfe Kebede. For the Copts, we have a few places on the internet connected to monasteries, like St. Moses bookstore connected to the Abbey in Texas (this is how they make their money, by selling CDs, books, etc), but I haven't seen anything like that for the Ethiopian Orthodox. Only some announcements on some church websites saying "this album is available in person at the church". I'm over a thousand miles from there... :'(


I’m impressed! 
I love Deacon Engidawork, Mirtinesh, and Zerfe, as well. Thanks for letting me know about stmosesbookstore.org I will be using it to buy some English books. Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a Tewahedo website that sells CDs or other items to benefit Monasteries. If you need me serve you as a postal service, PM your PO box and I can buy from my church and ship you any CDs, VCDs you would like :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on May 15, 2012, 01:41:22 PM
I don't know if this has been posted already but this is a great song commemorating the fathers of the Orthodox Church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM&feature=related)

Lyrics (Malayalam)

Orthodukso vishwasam nischithamaay sthaapichoraam
Ignathios Agnimayan, njaanaarnava Theologos,
Nalluravakum Kurillos, kaanjanajeehvan Mar Ivanios,
Mar Basil, Gregorios, Mar Diascoros, Cleemis,
Mar Philexinos ulkrishtan Severios,
Ee nirmalathaathanmaarthan ormadhinangal
Aakhoshicheedam varuveen.

Translation:

Come let us celebrate the rememberance of our holy fathers who gave the true orthodox belief to the world.
We remember Ignatius the Fiery One and Theologos (I think this is St. Gregory the Theologian) the sea of wisdom.
Kyrillos the sweet waterfall and Ivanios the Golden Tongued.
We also remember Baselios and our master Gregorios (of Nyssa?)
as well as Diascorus, Clemis,
Philexinos and our illustrious Severus.
May God help us with their prayers.

This hymn is a translation of the following Syriac Hymn sung is the same tone as the Syriac one. In the attached video you can listen to H.G Mor Osthatious the Metropolitan of Mylapore singing it in Syriac.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLGHe9t12h8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 23, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
Christ is Risen!

One more Paschal hymn on the Eve of the Ascension!
By Dn. Theodoros Yossef

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4b9uqbszrA

Yefasikawin beg esrael aredu /Israel slain The Paschal lamb
Ersun temegebew kenne’an lihedu/ so they may eat it and go to Canaan
Bemeqan beguben qebut yebegun dem/ the blood of the lamb they smeared by the door-posts and lintel
Gibts bekurwan ata ke esrael alemotem!/2x/ As Egypt lost her first born, none died from Israel.



Alefe ! eyalu motin ameletewal / it passed over! They declared as they escaped death
Fere’onin astimo  bedil teshagerewal/ as He sunk the pherero they crossed over in victory
Beberachew yalewin demun temelekto/ seeing the blood by their door
Marakiwin qesefuwal merkognochun titto/ he has struck down the captor and did not harm the captives
Qades alefe berehaw,/ past  over  the desert of Cades
Hizbun berkata eyemeraw/ satiated, the Lord lead his people.



Yefasikawin beg esrael aredu /Israel slain The Paschal lamb
Ersun temegebew kenne’an lihedu/ so they may eat it and go to Canaan
Bemeqan beguben qebut yebegun dem/ the blood of the lamb they smeared by the door-posts and lintel
Gibts bekurwan ata ke esrael alemotem!/2x/ As Egypt lost her first born, none died from Israel.



BeQeranio laye legna begu tardual / on Calvary/ kraniou/ the Lamb is slain for us
Fereon ayedelem diyabilos teretual/ not pharaoh but the Devil is defeated
Betre muse’achinim yegeta meseqel new/ and instead of the staff of mosses, we have the cross of our Lord
Be ersu qetqeten new motin yegedelenew/ with it we have trampled down death and triumphed 
Ye Egziabher lij tegeletuwal / the Son of God is Revealed 
Motim bemotu teretual!/  And by His Death, He has defeated Death!



Yefasikawin beg esrael aredu /Israel slain The Paschal lamb
Ersun temegebew kenne’an lihedu/ so they may eat it and go to Canaan
Bemeqan beguben qebut yebegun dem/ the blood of the lamb they smeared by the door-posts and lintel
Gibts bekurwan ata ke esrael alemotem!/2x/ As Egypt lost her first born, none died from Israel.




Abrehamim banehon bemigmar  yenorin/ Though we are not like Abraham who lived with righteous deeds
Siol qulefuwan talech demun sileyazin/ Hades surrendered her key because we bear His blood
Lezih talaq kibir abeqan miheretu/ His mercy is the reason of our great exaltation in honor
Genet hoy tekefech yihew mileketu!/ Open ye Gates of Paradise, behold the seal of His Blood!( on The sign  that is The Cross)
Lelit beberehan tewatech! / The Night (Darkness) is swallowed by the Light
Siol merekowan leqeqech! / And Hades released her captives!




Yefasikawin beg esrael aredu /Israel slain The Paschal lamb
Ersun temegebew kenne’an lihedu/ so they may eat it and go to Canaan
Bemeqan beguben qebut yebegun dem/ the blood of the lamb they smeared by the door-posts and lintel
Gibts bekurwan ata ke esrael alemotem!/2x/ As Egypt lost her first born, none died from Israel.




Abrehamim banehon bemigmar  yenorin/ Though we are not like Abraham who lived with righteous deeds
Siol qulefuwan talech demun sileyazin/ Hades surrendered her key because we bear His blood
Lezih talaq kibir abeqan miheretu/ His mercy is the reason of our great exaltation in honor
Genet hoy tekefech yihew mileketu! / Open ye Gates of Paradise, behold the seal of His Blood!(On the Sign that is The Cross)
Lelit beberehan tewatech!/  The Night (Darkness) is swallowed by the Light
Siol merekowan leqeqech!/  And Hades released her captives!




Yefasikawin beg esrael aredu /Israel slain The Paschal lamb
Ersun temegebew kenne’an lihedu/ so they may eat it and go to Canaan
Bemeqan beguben qebut yebegun dem/ the blood of the lamb they smeared by the door-posts and lintel
Gibts bekurwan ata ke esrael alemotem!/2x/ As Egypt lost her first born, none died from Israel.

...........///..........

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 23, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
Thank you.  That was beautiful.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 23, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
So wonderful! There is so much depth in the Tewahedo mezmur...I must confess that if it weren't for your translations, Hiwot, I would be jealous that you understand them while I can't. :) Thank you for taking the time to translate them for us non-Amharic speakers.

I have probably posted this before, and it is out of season, but here is a nice rendition of a doxology for the Great Fast in the Coptic Church, in Arabic: ذكصولوجية للصوم الكبير (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp90L7srC_8&feature=related)

Sorry I can't translate it. I'm working on learning more Arabic, but I only understand a little bit of it right now without text or translation (the Lord's Prayer at the end, for instance). :-[
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 23, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
Thank you Salpy and dzheremi, God willing I will continue to share, and I too have to thank everyone who is sharing here, all the beautiful hymns of the Church, it has been a great blessing.  :)

Another one of Theodros’s mezmur , 2 videos of the same mezmur.

“ yilal andebete  / my mouth shall proclaim”
Video 1 .   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qeCKK1UbWk&feature=fvwrel

Video 2.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WtOK3XivO0&feature=related

Yilal andebete egziabher qidus new/ My mouth shall proclaim the Holiness of God
Ayetewegnim ena welaj endelelew/ for He shall not abandon me like an orphan
Tinant yetebeqegne yenegem tesefaye/ He is the one who protected me yesterday and my hope for tomorrow
Tilehalech nefese fiqir neh getaye/ my soul shall say to you, you are Love my Lord!


Yetinant hiwoten zor biye sayew/ when I looked back at my past
Mamelecha yelelew atrium eshoh new/ it was barred with walls of thorns no one can escape from
Wede erefte wetahu yidres misganaye/  to you I offer thanksgiving because I escaped to a place of rest
Dejoch bizegubegne ber honogne getaye/even though the doors were barred, my Lord became The Gate for me.


Yilal andebete egziabher qidus new/ My mouth proclaims the Holiness of God
Ayetewegnim ena welaj endelelew/ for He shall not abandon me like an orphan
Tinant yetebeqegne yenegem tesefaye/ He is the one who protected me yesterday and my hope for tomorrow
Tilehalech nefese fiqir neh getaye/ my soul shall  say to you,  you are Love my Lord!


Betilequ bereha migib metet honogne/ in the depth of the desert he became my food and my drink
Mengeden aqenaw ejen beafe aschanegne/ he straightened my way and I stood in awe
Be esat ena weha mekakel alefe/ having passed through water and fire
Temesegen elalehu qine moltot afe/ I give thanks to you with mouth filled with your odes of your praise

Yilal andebete egziabher qidus new/ My mouth proclaims the Holiness of God
Ayetewegnim ena welaj endelelew/ for He shall not abandon me like an orphan
Tinant yetebeqegne yenegem tesefaye/ He is the one who protected me yesterday and my hope for tomorrow
Tilehalech nefese fiqir neh getaye/ my soul shall say to you, you are Love my Lord!

 Yebechegneneten maebel getsesuwal/ He has rebuked the storm of my loneliness
Lene birehan hono lekesash chelemuwal./  the Light has shined for me, while the accuser is cast away in darkness
Qestun eyatefe tadegegne keseqaye/  he broke the arrows of the enemy and rescued me from my suffering.
Yegetaye hasab fiqr new bene laye/  My Lord’s banner over me is Love

Yilal andebete egziabher qidus new/ My mouth proclaims the Holiness of God
Ayetewegnim ena welaj endelelew/ for He shall not abandon me like an orphan
Tinant yetebeqegne yenegem tesefaye/ He is the one who protected me yesterday and my hope for tomorrow
Tilehalech nefese fiqir neh getaye/ my soul shall say to you, you are Love my Lord!


Tinant zare nege zelalem tebaqi/ yesterday today, tomorrow and forever he is my protector
Yeliben filagot salenegerew awaqi/ he knows what is in my heart even before I tell him
Bebaheriw qidus yelelew amsaya/ Holy by His Nature, and no one is like Him
Simu wedebe new meleheqen metaya/  His name is my shore where I will be anchored


Yilal andebete egziabher qidus new/ My mouth proclaims the Holiness of God
Ayetewegnim ena welaj endelelew/ for He shall not abandon me like an orphan
Tinant yetebeqegne yenegem tesefaye/ He is the one who protected me yesterday and my hope for tomorrow
Tilehalech nefese fiqir neh getaye/ my soul shall say to you, you are Love my Lord!

....///.....

Glory be to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, One God, both now and ever and unto the ages of ages Amen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Ergib on May 24, 2012, 04:14:31 PM
Hiwot, your translations are amazing! Are you zemari by any chance?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on May 24, 2012, 04:35:16 PM
Hiwot, your translations are amazing! Are you zemari by any chance?

thank you Ergib, :) as to being zemari, no I am not.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on May 31, 2012, 08:47:30 AM
From the "related videos" of the last link I posted, here is cantor Gad Lewis (my favorite) reciting the verses of the cymbals in Coptic, with a very well put together video behind it, including the words in Coptic so that you can sing along too... (what do you mean, I'm the only one who does that?  :D)

Verses of Cymbals - أرباع الناقوس (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfOfJVbnUds&feature=related)

dzheremi, I'm just amazed at the knowledge you have!

I also love Muallem Gad Lewis.  I must say, I do hate those recordings with all that extra echo/reverb effect.

Here is his voice in a very simple setting with no effects or overdriven microphone!

Meet & Right (Coptic) by Cantor Gad Lewis
http://youtu.be/52sY5OuBcDg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 31, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
I agree, CoptoGeek, about the echo/reverb, but a lot of Coptic recordings have this (unfortunately), so I would rather have a recording of Gad Lewis with annoying reverb than one by Ibrahim Ayad with annoying reverb...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on June 03, 2012, 12:09:05 AM
isn't this lovely?  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc5Ayi3sxzg&feature=fvwrel

Je Nai Nan in Spanish , Coptic, English , French,Arabic, and Greek.


It certainly reminded me of why language was one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit on Holy Pentecost.... to proclaim the Mighty Works of God to All Nations!

Acts 2:1-12

1When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. 2And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. 4And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. 7And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? 8And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? 9Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, 11both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” 12And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?” [/b]

Blessed Feast of Holy Pentcost to everyone! :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 03, 2012, 12:20:07 AM
Beautiful!

And I had no idea that the Copts had a mission in Bolivia.  Wow!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on June 03, 2012, 12:26:56 AM
Beautiful!

And I had no idea that the Copts had a mission in Bolivia.  Wow!

Indeed! WOW is what I said too! Glory be to God!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on June 03, 2012, 12:54:57 AM
At the church in which I was baptized last week, St. Mark COC-Phoenix (actually Scottsdale, but who's counting), there was a presentation during the servant's meeting with two girls who had gone to the missionary church in Bolivia. They are doing GREAT work there (and I don't just mean the two girls, I mean the whole church). Bolivia is an extremely poor country, but the people there are very dedicated to God and the Church. Here is the website of the Diocese of Bolivia (http://orthodoxbolivia.org/), and here is the Nativity liturgy in Spanish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmeDlNDeDOY). Last I heard, over 400 Bolivians attend liturgy. May the Lord continue to bless the Church as it grows throughout Latinoamerica.

Related: Liturgy from St Mary and St Mark COC, Tlayacapan, Morelos, Mexico (http://www.copticmexico.org/liturgy.html) (It's my dream to go here one day, as I like to joke with people from church that I will finally be useful and they will have to turn to me to understand what is going on for once. ;D)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on June 04, 2012, 12:39:48 AM
Glory be to God! dzheremi, thank you for that post, what a beautiful thing to see! I pray that the Lord grant your wish so you go there and benefit from serving His people in there.  :)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on June 04, 2012, 04:57:11 AM
At the church in which I was baptized last week,

WHOAH!
dzheremi, i am late in saying 'alf mabrook'!
sorry to be late with the congratulations.
 :o
i am so, so happy for u brother!
 :D
i wish a blessed fast of the apostles to u and all the others reading this page.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on June 04, 2012, 05:07:41 AM
Wa alf shukr, ya Mabsoota! (Do I start calling you aunt now? I feel weird doing that, since I'm about 11 years older than our friend TITL who does that...on the other hand, you know my name, which is more than Ican be said of some of that aunties actually at the church here, so that's got to count for something! Heh. God bless them all.)

A blessed fast to you, too, and to all!

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on June 04, 2012, 05:19:26 AM
no, i'm not quite old enough...
 ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 04, 2012, 01:02:13 PM
Congrats, Dzheremi!

I'm going to bump the baptism thread so you and Seafra can tell us about your experiences. 

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,44573.0.html#top

I'm hoping for youtube videos.   :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on June 10, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
 Malankara Orthodox hymn for the Feast of Resurrection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr_LeVdxzjw&feature=channel&list=UL)

O Mary! I am the Gardner
I am the one who established Paradise
O Mary! I am the life of all living things.
I am the rising up and resurrection.

I was murdered
I was in a tomb
Do not touch me,
for I have not yet ascended to My Father.

"With glory He has risen from the tomb",
Go and tell this good news to My disciples

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on June 10, 2012, 01:52:16 PM
A Hymn from the West Syrian Rite Sacrament of Ordination sung in Syriac, Malayalam, and English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8PAYsQLzY
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on June 11, 2012, 02:19:14 AM
Everybody, Everybody! Look! Three and a half HOURS of high quality, no reverb/no echo-having, translated Coptic/English/Arabic tasbeha for Kiahk with Muallem Gad Lewis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RYrBUHOD8w&feature=related)! This is my new favorite thing on the internet. Sorry, everything else. Try to have more tasbeha next time.

I could just cry that I found this now at midnight when I have to be up in a few hours to get on a plane to travel to California. Does anyone know any service by which I can capture the audio from this video in order to put it onto an ipod? I only know free services that do much smaller conversions, less than 10 minutes. I want to be able to have this everywhere! :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on June 11, 2012, 03:36:29 AM
  :laugh: :laugh: that was indeed awesome! a gem! Thank you, thank you.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on June 11, 2012, 02:47:53 PM
peace, dzheremi, maybe u can watch it when u come back?
 ;)
personally, i find the prayer book (agpeya) to be the best thing to have on planes. that way u can occasionally exchange conversation with the person next to you. listening to music says 'don't talk to me', and maybe the guy next to u needs a word of encouragement.
 :)
ps, it is very good, thanks for linking to it!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 15, 2012, 06:46:56 PM
An Armenian hymn by St. Mesrob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxwEUAK_iaA&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: biro on June 15, 2012, 07:02:28 PM
Beautiful singing.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on June 16, 2012, 02:52:56 AM
Yes, very beautiful. Also it is very nice to see the Armenian icons. I haven't seen too many icons from the Armenian tradition. They're quite nice.

Syriac Orthodox lady sings the Lord's Prayer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84yb1PQRTUE&feature=related)

A slice of Syriac Orthodox life in Turkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XTFpU1Vsw&feature=related) (Tur Abdin; I think Deir ul-Zafaran/Mar Hananyo, but I'm not sure)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on June 26, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
I found a great recording of the Friday Ramsho (evening) prayers conducted at the Orthodox Theological Seminary in Kottayam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqLL80aqZqA&feature=related (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqLL80aqZqA&feature=related)

The prayers are in Malayalam and Syriac.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on June 30, 2012, 10:34:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHa2Oakg2kY

^Psalm 5 in Arabic. The tune in which it's being chanted doesn't reflect a traditional or known Coptic melody; yet it's somewhat reminiscent of the general spirit of some of the more melancholic examples of Coptic-style chant (e.g. the Coptic Good Friday reading from the Book of Lamentations).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: psalm110 on July 04, 2012, 06:02:43 AM
Hi All

Can anyone tell me the name of this hymn which is in arabic, I'm wondering if its available in Greek.

http://youtu.be/wWguK9A8mkg

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on July 04, 2012, 01:21:19 PM
بوليئيليون = booleeleeoon (from Greek "Polyeleon" ), in other words psalm 135 (in arabic مزمور = mazmoor).

Here is the link for this hymn sung in Greek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQbCKO45As
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on July 04, 2012, 01:39:57 PM
That's not Oriental. That's Byzantine! :)

Hymn 135 in Coptic from St. Macarius monastery in Egypt, 1977 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJLSRsqFRZ4)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: psalm110 on July 04, 2012, 06:24:57 PM
Very beautiful in both languages
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 04, 2012, 06:36:00 PM
Very beautiful in both languages

Indeed! its three actualy, the Arabic, the Coptic and the Greek, So beautiful! thank you Psalm110, Dominika and dhzeremi.

the Name of the Lord God of Israel ,being praised by the tongues of All Nations who are Redeemed by the Blood of the Messiah, They praise Him with the Mezmur of his servant Dawit! singing Hallelujah!

Christ is Risen!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on July 04, 2012, 08:30:26 PM
Okay, so I tried to find Psalm 135 in Syriac usage just to hear how they do it and compare it to the Coptic, Arabic, and Greek that have already been posted, and instead of finding that I found Psalm 91 and 121 in Malayalam as chanted by the Orthodox in India (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPEktdjoT0). Really, really great stuff, I think. Makes me want to learn Malayalam. How hard can it be...? :D  :o :'(
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Orthodox11 on July 04, 2012, 09:09:11 PM
Okay, so I tried to find Psalm 135 in Syriac usage just to hear how they do it and compare it to the Coptic, Arabic, and Greek that have already been posted, and instead of finding that I found Psalm 91 and 121 in Malayalam as chanted by the Orthodox in India (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPEktdjoT0). Really, really great stuff, I think. Makes me want to learn Malayalam. How hard can it be...? :D  :o :'(

The Trisagion on the same youtube channel isn't too dissimilar from the Byzantine version in Tone Pl. 1.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on July 04, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
Yeah. Many of the chants on that particular channel are noticeably influenced by the Byzantine modes, even when they don't have EO counterparts, like the previously linked Malayalam hymn "Orthodukso" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM), which exalts us to remember the Saints Dioscoros, Severus, Philoxenos, etc., in addition to several saints that are recognized by the EO.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 16, 2012, 02:12:49 AM
A-1 Coptic Chant in English of the Gospel reading for the feast of the Holy Resurrection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL1S9fRx3a0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on July 16, 2012, 06:47:31 PM
Yeah. Many of the chants on that particular channel are noticeably influenced by the Byzantine modes, even when they don't have EO counterparts, like the previously linked Malayalam hymn "Orthodukso" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW2zbUG0VnM), which exalts us to remember the Saints Dioscoros, Severus, Philoxenos, etc., in addition to several saints that are recognized by the EO.
I think a lot of the similarities might be due to the fact that the Syriac modal system and the Byzantine modal system share a common root. After all the Byzantine Rite is Antiochene in origin.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on July 17, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
One of my favorites:

The Fourth Canticle (Tasbeha: Psalms 148, 149 and 150) Chanted by the Choir of the Martyr Abu Fam.

http://youtu.be/n3mBXJhxRoY
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 20, 2012, 01:23:21 AM
Hymn for the feast of the Transfiguration, sung in Malayalam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em0iR0-xJnw&feature=related

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on July 20, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
Pope Shenouda wrote this poem while he was still a layman. It's calld "A stranger" or sometimes translated as "An Outlander".

Here is HH reading it with an on screen English translation
http://youtu.be/Qg_2X9GG8JQ

And here it is turned into a song
http://youtu.be/1NJgefSBXks

I found a nice English language rendition of the song version above.

A Stranger I Lived in the World
His Holiness Pope Shenouda III's poem غريب عشت في الدنيا translated to English by Sami Saad and sung by Justina Guirguis and Jacob Guirguis on guitar. St-Mark Coptic Orthodox Church, Montreal, Canada.

http://youtu.be/fHYp4gSz5rc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on July 23, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
thanks so much for this, it is becoming my favourite poem this year.
but i think the sound quality is better in this one (by the same people):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5NBqTrzsmA&feature=related
they uploaded it the previous day.
may the Lord give us a brave leader like him and bring times of spiritual refreshing to our brothers in egypt.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on July 24, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
Glad you liked it, mabsoota. I still terribly miss HH, but know he is praying & interceeding for us.

Maybe its just me, but doesn't her voice have a little bit of an Amy Lee of Evanescence feel to it? Upper Egypt meets Little Rock in Montreal.  8)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on July 25, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
hmmm, i think the canadians are a better group (and less depressing lyrics!)
we all miss baba shenouda, even those (like me) who didn't meet him (yet!)
i especially love all his booklets explaining the Christian faith.
he is a great example for us to follow.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: EkhristosAnesti on July 25, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
I'm guessing this is a studio quality recording of the same young lady in the live recording linked to above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGsPsbAtK0

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on July 25, 2012, 11:30:50 AM
I'm guessing this is a studio quality recording of the same young lady in the live recording linked to above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGsPsbAtK0


Beautiful! Thanks, EkhristosAnesti.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Severian on July 25, 2012, 03:53:57 PM
For some very nice Syriac Orthodox hymns, I recommend visiting ProjectSyriac's Youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectSyriac
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mtmamma on August 23, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
I discovered this recently. Coptic Box.

http://copticbox.com/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on August 28, 2012, 09:42:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rx9ZPK7Q0M - Malankara Orthodox hymn for the Dormition of the Theotokos

St.Thomas wondered;
"How will I reach Jersusalem,
from India; so soon?"
when he heard the Holy Spirit telling him:
"Go and attend the funeral,
of the Mother of your Lord"

Suddenly a cloud came,
and took me in.
I saw the Virgin being carried up,
by the angelic hosts.

I told; "Dear Mother please wait;
Let me receive blessings by venerating,
your holy body."
The anglic hosts stopped, and with delight,
I approached her, venerated her,
and received blessings.

To show as proof of me witnessing
her undestructed body going to paradise,
I also got her handkerchief and belt.
And along with the angels, I praised God,
on this day of her dormition.

When St.Thomas saw the other disciples,
near the tomb of Virgin Mary, to convince them what he saw,
he requested them: "Please open her tomb,
so that I can also venerate her body,
just like you all could."

The disciples opened her tomb and saw it was empty.
They were amazed and told St.Thomas,
it was here that we laid her body.
At that moment, St.Thomas showed
the other disciples her handkerchief and belt
and he told them, her body is in paradise.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on August 30, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
Absolutely beautiful!


St. Efrem Patriarchal Choir of the Syriac Orthodox Church with Abeer Nehme

Bturo Dihud ('Today songs of rejoicing resound on the Mount of Judea')

http://youtu.be/PPEuBXWLeCQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on August 30, 2012, 08:03:32 PM
Wonderful! I love Abeer Nehme. I wish her chant CDs were possible to buy outside of the Levant.

"Tsagumn hrashali", St. Movses Khorenatsi (V c.), arr. by Yervand Yerkanian, sung by Geghard Monastery Choir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1iJqpy_FNZ0)

^^^ This blew my mind when I found it earlier today; and there are many videos of this group on Youtube. Really stunning.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 07, 2012, 05:36:47 PM
Absolutely beautiful!


St. Efrem Patriarchal Choir of the Syriac Orthodox Church with Abeer Nehme

Bturo Dihud ('Today songs of rejoicing resound on the Mount of Judea')

http://youtu.be/PPEuBXWLeCQ

The performations of all Syriac hymns from this channels sounds so finely! And it's nice there are subtitles English and Arabic. Thank you for posting this!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Cantor Krishnich on September 07, 2012, 08:38:18 PM
Wonderful! I love Abeer Nehme. I wish her chant CDs were possible to buy outside of the Levant.

"Tsagumn hrashali", St. Movses Khorenatsi (V c.), arr. by Yervand Yerkanian, sung by Geghard Monastery Choir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1iJqpy_FNZ0)

^^^ This blew my mind when I found it earlier today; and there are many videos of this group on Youtube. Really stunning.

I also love Abeer Nehme. Her version of "Aboun D'Bashmaya" (the "Our Father" in Syriac) is breathtaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCq_aRU8Pfc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCq_aRU8Pfc)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 08, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
If you like Abeer Nehme, maybe try Ghada Shbeir. I don't think she's Orthodox (Maronite, I think), but she did a nice CD of unaccompanied Syriac chant a few years ago that's actually available via Amazon at a decent price (it's just called "Chants Syriaques", IIRC). This song isn't on it, but it's pretty interesting: "In Bethlehem" - Aramaic lullaby of St. Mary to the new-born Christ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4536l4Y4VY) (so says the description; I've never heard this tradition before)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Cantor Krishnich on September 08, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
If you like Abeer Nehme, maybe try Ghada Shbeir. I don't think she's Orthodox (Maronite, I think), but she did a nice CD of unaccompanied Syriac chant a few years ago that's actually available via Amazon at a decent price (it's just called "Chants Syriaques", IIRC). This song isn't on it, but it's pretty interesting: "In Bethlehem" - Aramaic lullaby of St. Mary to the new-born Christ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4536l4Y4VY) (so says the description; I've never heard this tradition before)

She's also very good. One of my all time favorites is Sister Marie Kerouz (you've probably heard of her), she was born a Maronite but is a Melkite -Greek Catholic Nun. She has an amazing ability being able to sing both European Classical pieces and Oriental Classical music and Oriental chant (Syriac and Byzantine) with one of the best voices that I've heard. 

Syriac/Maronite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQ9vJ4OioQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQ9vJ4OioQ)
Byzantine Chant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFH8abHmO-o&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFH8abHmO-o&feature=related)
Italian Catholic Hymn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz2C-62aaso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz2C-62aaso)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 08, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
I've never been able to get into Sr. Marie Keyrouz. I've tried on numerous occasions. Her Byzantine material isn't too bad, to my untrained ears, but her Syriac stuff just grates on me. Oddly enough, I have Maronite friends who say the same thing (though they also usually say that it's impossible to find good Maronite chant, especially after the start of the civil war when things really started going downhill, pastorally-speaking, and the motivation/authority needed to pass on the authentic chant was scattered to the wind, to be replaced by awful modern "Arabic Neo-Maronite" arrangements, a la Fr. Louis Hage and the Choral Department of the Universite Saint Esprit Kaslik in their terrible late 1970s recordings). I think she sounds right at home with the Italian hymn, though. Very pretty. Thanks for sharing.

And now for something completely different: The Hymn of the Seven Tunes (Coptic Orthodox) - chanted in English by the deacons of St. George COC, Toledo, OH. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 09, 2012, 09:17:45 AM
Abeer Nehme, Ghada Shbeir - beautiful voices! Earlier I knew only the first one, so thanks dzheremi for posting the video presenting the second one!

As for Sister Marie Kerouz, I have similar feelings as dzheremi. Maybe, because actually I prefer male (sometimes mixed) voices, however there are some exceptions like my compatriot Divna Ljubojević. But for me, sr. Kerouz sounds too much Western ;)

I also don't like new Maronite arrangements. Arabic languages is so beautiful and for me these new arrangements doesn't suit to this language and are not so deep. However, I like some recordings from this site: http://www.jiehonline.com/pweek09.html I know there are passion hymns, but I understand meaning only of a few of them, as my Arabic is very poor.


And now for something completely different: The Hymn of the Seven Tunes (Coptic Orthodox) - chanted in English by the deacons of St. George COC, Toledo, OH. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58)


Great chant! Do you have the lyrics? I also love the icons from this video!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 09, 2012, 12:34:59 PM
You can find the words at places like this page (http://www.hazzat.com/Seasons/tabid/57/ctl/ViewHymnContents/mid/404/Navigation/Season/ServiceHymn/240/Format/1/Default.aspx), but without the opening part you hear in that video, so it's not complete. The missing words are:

We worship the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit - Hail to the Church, the house of the angels
Hail to the Virgin who gave birth to our Savior - Hail to Gabriel who announced to her the good news
Hail to Michael the Archangel - Hail the twenty-four presbyters
Hail to the Cherubim, hail to the Seraphim - Hail to all the hosts of the heavens
Hail to John, the great forerunner - Hail to the twelve apostles
Hail to our father Mark the Evangelist - the destroyer of idols
Hail to Stephen, the first martyr - Hail to George, the morning star
Hail to the whole choir of the martyrs - Hail to Abba Anthony and the three Macarii
Hail to the whole choir of the cross-bearers - Hail to all the saints who have pleased the Lord
Through their prayers, O Christ our King, have mercy upon us in Your kingdom
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on September 09, 2012, 01:50:28 PM
awesome you guys! Thank you for sharing these beautiful hymns!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on September 11, 2012, 03:24:19 PM
Gudo d'Kenoro - Tubonitho Virgin Mary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DDuleiRh0

Gudo d'Kenoro - Malakho men Shelyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43X11e1_f4

Halel Halel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b3kUYXkA-U
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 11, 2012, 04:13:09 PM
Gudo d'Kenoro - Tubonitho Virgin Mary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DDuleiRh0

Gudo d'Kenoro - Malakho men Shelyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43X11e1_f4

Halel Halel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b3kUYXkA-U

I've enjoyed especially the third one - do you have a translation of it into English (I know that all the time I ask about the lyrics - but I love Oriental Orthodox music and I want to know the meaning of these hymns and songs)? I understand only one word - "Qadish" means "Holy". I know that one of Syriac Christmas hymns is called "Halel Halel" - is the link this hymn?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on September 11, 2012, 04:35:32 PM
I've enjoyed especially the third one - do you have a translation of it into English (I know that all the time I ask about the lyrics - but I love Oriental Orthodox music and I want to know the meaning of these hymns and songs)? I understand only one word - "Qadish" means "Holy". I know that one of Syriac Christmas hymns is called "Halel Halel" - is the link this hymn?

Unfortunately not :( but "halel" means "praise" (you probably knew), so it's "praise praise". "Aloho" means "God", they say "Bar Aloho" several times and "Bar" means "Son" (so "Son of God"). At 2:49, "Haymonutho" means "faith" (or religion). They say "Betelhem" around 1:00, means "Betlehem" of course. At 3:13 they say "etraham layn" which means "have mercy on us".

Yes, this should be the Christmas one, with Betlehem and all.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 11, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
Dominika, are you perhaps thinking of this Maronite Catholic hymn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLduuAAqsnE)? That one is pretty well-known even among non-Maronites like me, since it was included on the Turkish-released 2CD collection of Syriac Church and secular music "Suryaniler" a few years ago (there are so few recordings released for general consumption like that that I pick up whatever I can find that is in Syriac, whether it is Orthodox or not; "Suryaniler" has both Orthodox and Catholic hymns). I don't know if it shares a text or a melody with any Syriac Orthodox hymn. I have found some hymns shared in common by the Maronites and the Orthodox, but they are the basic ones by St. Ephrem like you would expect, and I don't know if this is one of them. It would help if I spoke the language...maybe someday! :-[
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 12, 2012, 07:40:16 AM
Suryoyutho - thanks for the help :)

Dominika, are you perhaps thinking of this Maronite Catholic hymn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLduuAAqsnE)? That one is pretty well-known even among non-Maronites like me, since it was included on the Turkish-released 2CD collection of Syriac Church and secular music "Suryaniler" a few years ago (there are so few recordings released for general consumption like that that I pick up whatever I can find that is in Syriac, whether it is Orthodox or not; "Suryaniler" has both Orthodox and Catholic hymns). I don't know if it shares a text or a melody with any Syriac Orthodox hymn. I have found some hymns shared in common by the Maronites and the Orthodox, but they are the basic ones by St. Ephrem like you would expect, and I don't know if this is one of them. It would help if I spoke the language...maybe someday! :-[

I'd forgotten how this hymns sounds,now thanks to you I've recalled it. I think the lyrics of both hymns can be very similar - as you've mentioned, many Maronite hymns are based on St. Ephrem works. One of the hymns that are used in botch Churches, also sung on the Nativity, is "Shoubho Lhaw Qolo".

Here I'm putting the lyrics of the Maronite hymn you've posted:

هَلِلْ، هَلِلْ، هَللويا. الله تجلّى، الله الكلمة حلّ الظلمة وحلّ محلاّ
قدّوس، قدّوس، قدّوس الله، الليلة تجلَّى بأحلى حكاية
قدّوس، قدّوس، قدّوس الله، آية وجايه تشرح آية.
باري البرايا تمَّم كلامو حُبُو وكلامو لكلّ البرايا، عنّا سلامو أغلى العطايا حُبُو وكلامو لكلّ البرايا
يا خالق مولود محلاك طفل زغير يا واعد موعود يا حدود سرّ كبير
مهما الدهر يدور كيف يودّينا خلّيك درب النور للآب يهدينا

I know very little Arabic, but the first parts of two first verses are practically the same as Syriac hymn
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on September 12, 2012, 07:51:22 AM
I think I'll add to all the great Syriac hymns we have here with a great recording of Fr. M. P. George singing Bak'Dus Qudishin, a song commemorating the departed clergy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJfcY8acX7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJfcY8acX7w)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on September 12, 2012, 08:53:52 AM
Among all these wonderful women listed above, let's not forget the Grand Lady of them all:

Fairouz - Sho Beyholha We Oulo (Syriac) / Soubhan El Kalima (Arabic)

http://youtu.be/hAYUmlewJSc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 13, 2012, 08:22:45 AM
Coptic Orthodox hymn in Arabic for the Feast of the Holy Cross

The first part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJEPb76Ipi8
The second part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgyUxvnMbU

And the lyrics in English and Arabic: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/805

I think it's a beautiful and detailed description of the feast of the Elevation of the Holy Cross
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Cantor Krishnich on September 13, 2012, 10:12:19 AM
Among all these wonderful women listed above, let's not forget the Grand Lady of them all:

Fairouz - Sho Beyholha We Oulo (Syriac) / Soubhan El Kalima (Arabic)

http://youtu.be/hAYUmlewJSc

Beautiful! Fairuz brings back memories for me although I'm not an Arab or from the region. My dad who was Indian but also spoke Arabic listened to Fairuz alot.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on September 22, 2012, 03:51:43 AM
Sabre hlayo, the opening part sounds like it could've been a stage song in one of the old Street Fighter games...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2sKq6gfo8

Suryoyo All-Stars - Tralfo Shnayo (2000 years), this isn't a Church song but it is dedicated to all Christian minorities around the world (mostly focused on the Genocide almost 100 years ago). It's also a song where you hear both the spoken Syriac and Arabic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRrnQPaZZY

Gudo d'Kenoro - Mothan Bethnahrin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgBtIYsT-tg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on October 04, 2012, 03:46:58 PM
Famous Coptic hymn "Eporou" ("O King of Peace") for the Holy Pascha Week in Spanish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVJQhMHo5Kc&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on October 12, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
Beautiful! Fairuz brings back memories for me although I'm not an Arab or from the region. My dad who was Indian but also spoke Arabic listened to Fairuz alot.

Indeed, Fairuz is very dear to me too. As I grew up in the West, she was my gateway to a lot fo the beautiful music from the Levant.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on October 12, 2012, 03:54:48 PM
Very nicely done and without the bombastic intro you'd normally hear.

Ninua Acar - Abun d´bashmayo LIVE Suryoyo Sat
http://youtu.be/Etow_hqTMWU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on October 12, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
is this 'our Father who is in heaven'?
sounds a bit familiar, like as if i spend too much time on this website and am now recognising syriac!
 :o
 ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on October 12, 2012, 08:12:17 PM
Haha. Yes, "Abun d'bashmayo" is the "Our Father" in Syriac. :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on October 15, 2012, 12:56:13 PM
is this 'our Father who is in heaven'?
sounds a bit familiar, like as if i spend too much time on this website and am now recognising syriac!
 :o
 ;)

Indeed it is, just as dzheremi said. So true, I have the melody always in my head now, hopefully one day to learn the Syriac words. What's amazing is this is fairly close, understanding some difference between 1st century Palestinian Aramaic & later West Syriac, to the very words Our Lord spoke.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on October 15, 2012, 01:02:36 PM
"Tsagumn hrashali", St. Movses Khorenatsi (V c.), arr. by Yervand Yerkanian, sung by Geghard Monastery Choir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1iJqpy_FNZ0)

^^^ This blew my mind when I found it earlier today; and there are many videos of this group on Youtube. Really stunning.

I love all the OO Chants (minus the tacky synthesizers & fake Coptic reverb/echo :D ), but the Armenian stuff ...that is a whole different level. Absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on October 15, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Famous opera singer Isabel Beyrakdarian singing "Sourp Sourp" (Holy Holy)

Isabel Beyrakdarian and Tatev Choir "Sourp Sourp"
http://youtu.be/f_kcY37ViYM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: psalm110 on October 28, 2012, 03:43:15 AM
Is the Hymn Evlogetaria for the Dead available on youtube in Arabic ?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on October 28, 2012, 09:15:38 AM
Is the Hymn Evlogetaria for the Dead available on youtube in Arabic ?

That's not OO hymn, however, here you have it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3JQobAmQE4
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Severian on October 28, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
Syriac/Aramaic Music:

Click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDGtoQNN37A&feature=autoplay&list=LLBTj2XnXnIn0kDddXn7__pw&playnext=2)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on October 28, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
What's that? This thread doesn't have enough tasbeha in Italian? Well, alright then... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEdEAfcQkI) ;)

(The only fragment of tasbeha I could find in Spanish is way too echoey to follow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an6h-2HM1_I), but it makes me wonder: Is it possible to buy/download/find an Agpeya in Spanish anywhere? This would be a great help to me, and for all of us living in Latino-majority areas of the world; searching for it online, once I got past the various Spanish translations of ancient pagan/pre-Christian religious texts, the best I've found is a explanation of what it is (http://nitzu-higimani.blogspot.com/2010/10/agpeyael-libro-de-las-horas.html), but no link to it anywhere in Spanish.)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on November 01, 2012, 02:06:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUApxecqxa8

The above Palm Sunday hymn has been posted before:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9840.msg292878/topicseen.html#msg292878

However, rather than a studio recording, this one seems to have been recorded during an actual service.  You can hear the priest hitting the hammer on a piece of wood, which symbolizes someone knocking on the door of heaven.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on November 07, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
What's that? This thread doesn't have enough tasbeha in Italian? Well, alright then... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEdEAfcQkI) ;)

(The only fragment of tasbeha I could find in Spanish is way too echoey to follow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an6h-2HM1_I), but it makes me wonder: Is it possible to buy/download/find an Agpeya in Spanish anywhere? This would be a great help to me, and for all of us living in Latino-majority areas of the world; searching for it online, once I got past the various Spanish translations of ancient pagan/pre-Christian religious texts, the best I've found is a explanation of what it is (http://nitzu-higimani.blogspot.com/2010/10/agpeyael-libro-de-las-horas.html), but no link to it anywhere in Spanish.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepj8NFF5S4&feature=g-all-u - just posted recording of tasbeha in Spanish.
But I can't find anywhere the text translated into Spanish

UPDATE: http://orthodoxbolivia.org/resources/audio/ - there are 2 pieces of tasbeha in Spanish
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on November 07, 2012, 02:54:58 PM
Thanks, Dominika. Very interesting. Those are "Tentheeno" and the second hoos, respectively. I'm sure there must be Agpeyas in Spanish for the churches in Bolivia and Mexico, but from speaking to people who have served in the Church in Bolivia, they are rather ad hoc, not anything printed. Maybe someday, as the Church grows throughout the Spanish-speaking world... :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: copticmind on November 15, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
From what I understand, HH Pope St. Kyrillos VI adopted this hymn from the Greek Church.  So this would be a very recent addition to the Coptic liturgical hymns.

Mina, was it Pope Kyrillos VI or Pope Kyrillos IV (The father of reformation)?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on November 18, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
From what I understand, HH Pope St. Kyrillos VI adopted this hymn from the Greek Church.  So this would be a very recent addition to the Coptic liturgical hymns.

Mina, was it Pope Kyrillos VI or Pope Kyrillos IV (The father of reformation)?
Good question; I was taught the sixth, but I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on December 07, 2012, 10:14:08 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcR1dRVVE-w - the first part is for sure for Kiahk (Advent).
But after the hymn which there are put lyrics (below the video), they sing something different in Arabic and Coptic.

As I can hear, in Arabic it's "allelouia x3 Yassoo-l-Masseh ibnu Allah wolida fee Betheleim" (sorry for bad transcription) what means 'Jesus Christ Son of God is born in Bethelelem" so it's from the refrain of Psalm 150 for Nativity, isn't it?
As for the text which is sung after the frase in Arabic I don't have any idea, but is it also from the Nativity hymn?

And, to make it clear, there are in recording 2 different hymns, one for Advent and one for Nativity?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on December 07, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
straight after yasou' al masih (the bit you translated very well! i am impressed with your arabic) they then say the same thing in coptic, then (in coptic) they sing glory (i think) to the Son and His Good Father and to the Holy Spirit, then (i think) now and forever.

please feel free anyone to correct my coptic!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on December 09, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
Thank you mabsoota for the help :) My Arabic is very poor, I hope one day I mage to get into Arabic at university, that I would be able to communicate easily in this so beautiful language ;)

As I love Coptic hymns and songs for Kiahk, because it's full of Advent's (Nativity Fast) spirit, two another recordings with subitles in English and Arabic:
Amdah fee Batoul (Praise the Virgin)
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9B2VlP7BdE&feature=g-subs-u)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0myY0G0KY&feature=g-subs-u
">Aftah faya baltasabeeh (I open my mouth to praise)[/url]



Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on December 18, 2012, 12:20:03 PM
Don't know if it has been posted before but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOePzjT6Pc

Mani dakhwoth (Who is like me?) - Ancient Syriac hymn in honor of Virgin Mary
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on December 18, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Don't know if it has been posted before but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOePzjT6Pc

Mani dakhwoth (Who is like me?) - Ancient Syriac hymn in honor of Virgin Mary

Suryoyutho, that was beautiful. When is this song usually sung? I've don't think I've heard the Malayalam equivalent before.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on December 19, 2012, 08:54:48 AM
Yes, it's awesome. It's a Christmas hymn (http://www.soc-wus.org/christmas%20page.htm , search "dakhwoth"). This particular version is from this album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2whgV8BiLg (starts at around :53).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on January 09, 2013, 02:11:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPn4nCKTBec

Syriac Orthodox Christmas Hymns "Haw Dmalakhai"
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 10, 2013, 08:47:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPn4nCKTBec

Syriac Orthodox Christmas Hymns "Haw Dmalakhai"

As far I know, the hymn varies dependind on the feast, becasue it's a part of an ritual called "Zuhuyo" - lifting of the thing typical for the particular feast e.g a palm for Palm Sunday, water for Epiphany etc.

So I wonder if the hymn you've posted is exactly for Christmas?...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on January 10, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPn4nCKTBec

Syriac Orthodox Christmas Hymns "Haw Dmalakhai"

As far I know, the hymn varies dependind on the feast, becasue it's a part of an ritual called "Zuhuyo" - lifting of the thing typical for the particular feast e.g a palm for Palm Sunday, water for Epiphany etc.

So I wonder if the hymn you've posted is exactly for Christmas?...

I'm not an expert on Syriac but I think the last line of the first three stanzas is "D'stlebt Metulothan, w'ethraham al'ain", which roughly means "Thou who was Crucified for us, have mercy on us." For Christmas, the practice in our Church is to sing "Thou who was Born/Incarnate for us, have mercy on us." I might be hearing it though. :/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 19, 2013, 02:25:29 PM
Maybe that's not exactly proper place, but there is a link for Coptic service of Laquan (blessing of the water) done on this year's Epiphany by the patriarch Tawadros.

In my EO parish the Great Blessing of water, which is done only on Epiphany, lasts 15-20 minutes and in Coptic church it is one and a half hours :o
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on January 19, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
Found one for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2v8YRgmxg

And then on to regular raising of incense and liturgical services:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG1wxAviEk
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on January 19, 2013, 03:29:02 PM
u beat me to it!
i failed to search in arabic.
i hope someone soon will subtitle this, so everyone will benefit.
 :)

yes our service is longer coz we have lots of lovely Bible readings, then the actual blessing of the water, then the dabbing (to symbolise washing) of the feet (of all the men) or wrists (of all the women - due to cultural issues), and then we sing a bit and then people collect the holy water.
anyone who gets there a bit late (eg. me!) can beg a bit of holy water from the person next to them and add it to their bottle.

then, in many churches, we do the epiphany liturgy late at night instead of early in the morning.
so we have a 1.5 hr service followed by a 2.5 hr one!
 :o
i think we're trying to do a longer service than the slavs!

but we don't throw ourselves in freezing cold blessed water in the extreme ascetic slavic practice, so i guess with that, you guys win the 'who is the most ascetic' contest!
 ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on January 19, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
I just did a youtube search on تواضروس and filtered it by only displaying videos posted in the last 24 hours.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 19, 2013, 05:35:23 PM
Found one for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2v8YRgmxg

And then on to regular raising of incense and liturgical services:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG1wxAviEk

Thank you, that's what I was thinking about ;)


yes our service is longer coz we have lots of lovely Bible readings, then the actual blessing of the water, then the dabbing (to symbolise washing) of the feet (of all the men) or wrists (of all the women - due to cultural issues), and then we sing a bit and then people collect the holy water.
anyone who gets there a bit late (eg. me!) can beg a bit of holy water from the person next to them and add it to their bottle.

then, in many churches, we do the epiphany liturgy late at night instead of early in the morning.
so we have a 1.5 hr service followed by a 2.5 hr one!
 :o
i think we're trying to do a longer service than the slavs!

but we don't throw ourselves in freezing cold blessed water in the extreme ascetic slavic practice, so i guess with that, you guys win the 'who is the most ascetic' contest!
 ;)


Well, during the rite of the Great Blessing of the water we have 5 readings and some long prayers, but they're just said by preists, and a few hymns chanted (but you know, in Slavic practice it's done in fast way), and the priest immerse the cross in each basin 3 times, so probably in the content EO version is not so much shorter as Coptic one. And of course I haven't counted the time for collecting it, becasue it depends on the number of people. But there is no tradition of dabbing, washing or something like that ;)

Haha I liked "who is most ascetic conquest" ;D I wish one day I took bath in Jordan water (I mean after the blessing of the river), becasue in Warsaw there is no any possibility to do it :(

But I have to admit, that although Divine Liturgy with the Great blessing of the water lasts about 2.5 hour, in evening before (of course in Slavic practice, in Greek it's done in the morning on the day of Epiphany) we have All-Night Vigil which lasts 2 hours (in some parishes 30 minutes or even 1 hour more) ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 20, 2013, 08:02:51 PM
Thank you mabsoota for the help :) My Arabic is very poor, I hope one day I mage to get into Arabic at university, that I would be able to communicate easily in this so beautiful language ;)

As I love Coptic hymns and songs for Kiahk, because it's full of Advent's (Nativity Fast) spirit, two another recordings with subitles in English and Arabic:
Amdah fee Batoul (Praise the Virgin)
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9B2VlP7BdE&feature=g-subs-u)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0myY0G0KY&feature=g-subs-u
">Aftah faya baltasabeeh (I open my mouth to praise)[/url]





Beautiful Dominika, I too love them , listen to them often, they truly are beautiful :)  thank you dear.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on January 28, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcUhGiqqNxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcUhGiqqNxw)

A good video of the Hoothomo (Concluding Prayer) and the Final Benediction of an Indian Orthodox Liturgy.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on January 29, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcUhGiqqNxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcUhGiqqNxw)

A good video of the Hoothomo (Concluding Prayer) and the Final Benediction of an Indian Orthodox Liturgy.
wonderful! thank you Sheenj!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 30, 2013, 09:30:40 AM
A blog with Armenian Orthodox hymns - sharakans (http://www.sharakanner.blogspot.com). The lyrics are only in Armenian, but due to Google Translator you find otu at least of which feast is the hymn. All of the hymns are links to youtube.


Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on February 05, 2013, 11:32:30 PM
Earlier, I mentioned a group, "CoptAcapella", of which my cousin is part of.  This is a website with lyrics and the production of songs they have made thus far.  These aren't liturgical in nature, just spiritual songs, which do come for the most part from the Coptic Church in the Arabic spiritual musical, more so than Coptic, translated into English.

Enjoy!

http://coptacapella.com/?cat=10
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on February 27, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
Wow, this is beautiful.

Best Ethiopian Orthodox Mezmur by Zemari Mirtnesh Tilahun (Mar Mar alew)
http://youtu.be/b_ahmrW09go
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on February 27, 2013, 04:26:00 PM
Zemarit Mirtinesh is my favorite, too. :) Though I have not heard so much with her that also has krar so prominently featured. It's kind of nice, I think, even though I get the sense that this instrument is not among the most liked for mezmur (maybe it's too closely associated with secular music; I don't know). Usually it's buried a bit more, like in this lovely mezmur by Zerfe Kebede (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVytYrn78hk) (if it's even in there...I might be hearing things).

Yes, our Ethiopian brothers and sisters are blessed to have such heavenly music as part of their tradition. If I'm going to listen to paraliturgical music, I prefer Tewahedo mezmur to Coptic (well, Arabic) taraneem. Nothing against my own church, of course, it's just...well, you've heard Zemarit Mirtinesh!  ;D

Of course, there is some very powerful taraneem by Coptic ladies, too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VQIbsNSrEg) (don't much care for the likes of Ibrahim Ayad and Co. in this department, myself; sorry, dudes. Boles Malak is a little less annoying, I guess). It's just a different animal, I suppose.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on February 27, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
I posted this hymn before I think but this is different singer(s):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In6wRB7qn3Y

Gudo d'Mor Afrem - Malacho Men Selyo

The words are sung very clearly.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on March 24, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
http://youtu.be/eoYqSvcCZQY (http://youtu.be/eoYqSvcCZQY)

I found this great recording of the last portion of the Shubkono (Forgiveness?) Service done during the beginning of Lent. This was recorded a couple years ago at the Orthodox Theological Seminary in Kottayam, India.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on March 24, 2013, 06:16:37 PM
http://youtu.be/eoYqSvcCZQY (http://youtu.be/eoYqSvcCZQY)

I found this great recording of the last portion of the Shubkono (Forgiveness?) Service done during the beginning of Lent. This was recorded a couple years ago at the Orthodox Theological Seminary in Kottayam, India.

^^Great :angel: It's very similar to the rite of the forgiveness done in EO churches also for the beginning of the Great Lent.

With prayers for the official Orthodox unity
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 28, 2013, 07:00:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGS7b-Sp5w - I think it hasn't been posted. One of Malankara Orthodox hymns for Palm Sunday in an arragment that reminds me Bollywood ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on April 28, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGS7b-Sp5w - I think it hasn't been posted. One of Malankara Orthodox hymns for Palm Sunday in an arragment that reminds me Bollywood ;)

Actually in the above youtube video, it is sung by a Bollywood singer.  The proper arrangement of this hymn sounds more like the following:
http://tinyurl.com/c6memy2 (http://tinyurl.com/c6memy2)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on April 28, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPn4nCKTBec

Syriac Orthodox Christmas Hymns "Haw Dmalakhai"

As far I know, the hymn varies dependind on the feast, becasue it's a part of an ritual called "Zuhuyo" - lifting of the thing typical for the particular feast e.g a palm for Palm Sunday, water for Epiphany etc.

So I wonder if the hymn you've posted is exactly for Christmas?...

Here's (http://youtu.be/b1_vJ0IjW8Y?t=4m37s) a video of the actual Zuyoho service done in Malayalam. This was the Holy Friday Zuyoho, where the cross is clothed in white to represent the Lord's burial shrouds.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 12, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
This is an English Coptic spiritual song taken from the Arabic Coptic Spiritual song.  The music is the same, the words however are completely different.  Someone very recently created a very different group of lyrics with the same music and same resurrection theme.  In English, the chorus starts with "Resurrection is my song, Resurrection gives me life" but in Arabic, the chorus starts "Inta dost el mawta wahdack, ya Yasou el Nasiree" (You trampled death alone, oh Jesus of Nazereth)

Here's a Coptacapella "remix" of the English:
http://coptacapella.com/?p=356#t=00:00

Here's the original Arabic version (and the way we chant it in Church, even in Liturgy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruOJIUko6Ss

This is an interesting Arabic "remix" that I stumbled upon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QFjSpHh_qA

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on May 12, 2013, 04:59:35 PM
aah, i love this one so much...
we didn't sing it yet this year, will have to make a special request in church
 :)

and i agree the translation doesn't quite do it justice, but as i can't come up with a better translation, i should not comment!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on May 13, 2013, 08:35:47 AM
Actually this melody is very well known from Middle East to Balkans (including Serbia ;)). And every nation claims its own original melody ;) There is even a movie about it "Whose is this melody?" (I don't know if it's the exact name of this film in English). For example:

Jordi Savall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLwoG6QQXg#t=1h52m) or something Muslim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwzF8Oz06U#t=1m34s)

Anyway, I really like this Coptic song about Resurrection, and the last version (although I'm quite traditional regarding Church music) is so great! :D True spirit of paschal happiness
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on May 13, 2013, 10:40:13 AM
Hmm. And the same melody reappears for other English texts of the Church, like "Very Early Sunday Morning" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZNs3TWosYc), which shares the same chorus as the English version posted by Mina (which I'd never heard before; very interesting), but has obviously different verses. I've also heard the same melody sung in very different contexts by both Syriac and Arab Iraqis...

Anyway...paging Hiwot, Ergib, or any other Tewahedo members we might have left: Gurage Muslim superstar Mahmoud Ahmed apparently sings Tewahedo mezmur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrNYPqm1Zgo) now? Just what is going on here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLkKNfsBfkY)? :o Is it common for Muslims to sing Orthodox mezmur? I wouldn't think so...the closest I've ever seen from Egypt is when Abdel Halim Hafez sang "El Masih" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxbs6A671o), which is obviously much more of a political song than a religious one. And I seem to remember when the film "Hassan w Marqos" came out a few years ago, there was controversy and some people accused its star Adel Imam of converting to Christianity (and/or promoting conversion to it) just for acting in the role of a Coptic priest in a movie that was meant to reduce tensions between Copts and Muslims. So when I see/hear things like the above videos...wow...Ethiopia is blessed! :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 16, 2013, 09:33:19 AM
Actually this melody is very well known from Middle East to Balkans (including Serbia ;)). And every nation claims its own original melody ;) There is even a movie about it "Whose is this melody?" (I don't know if it's the exact name of this film in English). For example:

Jordi Savall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLwoG6QQXg#t=1h52m) or something Muslim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwzF8Oz06U#t=1m34s)

Anyway, I really like this Coptic song about Resurrection, and the last version (although I'm quite traditional regarding Church music) is so great! :D True spirit of paschal happiness
Wow...very interesting!  Curious now to think the origins of the melody...hmmmm
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on May 24, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJpNiHAKonU - this year Paschal (Easter) Liturgy with the Coptic pope Tawadrous II. Very nice chanting. Especially these hitenis (~27 min) I find very powerful (expressive).
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on June 06, 2013, 02:33:33 PM
Some Ethiopian hymns for Pascha (Easter) :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5nvXzjudI (that's something that I almost do during the Paschal service, however in European culture it would considered as strange behaviour ;))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux-ztnRewEM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 10, 2013, 01:47:53 AM
This is an Armenian hymn asking God to grant long life to the Catholicos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v23H5n9ditU
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on June 15, 2013, 12:50:01 PM
Christ is Risen!

Dzheremi,

He converted to Christianity a few years ago. A sensation at the time. God willing when I get the time I will try to translate that mezmur he is singing.

Beautiful hymns everyone. Thank you for sharing. :)



 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 15, 2013, 02:09:37 PM
This post:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,51958.msg938735.html#msg938735

Made me want to link a hymn about the Mother of God.  So here goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldc5gWL1xN0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on June 15, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
Made me want to link a hymn about the Mother of God.  So here goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldc5gWL1xN0

Another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOePzjT6Pc
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on June 17, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Another Hymn to the Mother of God. I don't know for sure if this is a Syriac Orthodox Hymm (Maybe Maronite?) but it is amazing.


"O Mother of God" by Mayada Basilis (Basilies?) & St. Efrem Patriarchal Choir

http://youtu.be/KxAyEVvEwC4


Such a voice, such a voice!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 17, 2013, 06:29:09 PM
^Wow!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on June 17, 2013, 09:40:07 PM
Another Hymn to the Mother of God. I don't know for sure if this is a Syriac Orthodox Hymm (Maybe Maronite?) but it is amazing.


"O Mother of God" by Mayada Basilis (Basilies?) & St. Efrem Patriarchal Choir

http://youtu.be/KxAyEVvEwC4


Such a voice, such a voice!

Indeed a beautiful voice.  I first heard this chant from Fairuz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-N7xghgWo
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Biboboy on June 21, 2013, 10:41:50 AM
If you like Coptic hymns, and you want some good quality, accurate recordings, then HCOC is the way to go.

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http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/TheHeritageoftheCopticOrthodox (http://www.cdbaby.com/Artist/TheHeritageoftheCopticOrthodox)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on June 21, 2013, 12:12:40 PM
yes, there are some good songs by your group  :)
welcome to this lovely (slightly manic) website
 ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on June 21, 2013, 01:30:46 PM
"O, Mother of God" in Syriac by Carla Ramia. I'm pretty sure its Maronite from this version, very beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6aWKAepU8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6aWKAepU8)


And the original link I posted is no longer working. Here is the new one for Mayada Basilis (Basilies?) & St. Efrem Patriarchal Choir. They also added some others with her, all very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQGearNPvA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQGearNPvA)

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on July 08, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
This is a very special addition to our collection. We already know of the martyrdom of Fr. Mina Aboud Sherween in North Sinai just three days ago.  There is now circulating an audio liturgical recording of him with a slide show of him on YouTube: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IWkZ74oHU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

As someone shared on facebook, it begins appropriately with the chanted part of the Creed "We look for the ressurection of the dead and the life of the coming age.  Amen!"
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on July 21, 2013, 01:22:08 PM
"English" translation of the Syriac sHimo Prayers - a hymn from the Tuesday Compline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5gyFd00d5I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5gyFd00d5I)

O You the slain,
who by Your slaying, slew both death and satan
slay the sin which,
dwels in me and makes me its
slave by my will.

O Good Shepherd,
Who went in search of
sheep that strayed from
the flock and was lost.

O seek for me , who am lost like the one coin
out of ten which the woman lost and it is,
because You are He who finds, those who are lost.

Haleluiah ; Praise..
be to You ; Barekmor.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on July 22, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
Mezmur by liqemezemeran yilma hayilu

roughly translated into English..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBq-680wNp4

Peace be with you!

Crying out, peace be with you!/2x/
As she weaves the silk with the gold
The voice of Gabriel was heard ,……. it was heard
The voice of the Angel was heard,……… it was heard
The voice of Gabriel was heard

While you were fetching water,Clapping his wings in his great joy
The one sent to you with the good news seeing the greatness of your glory
Stood before you in humility and gave you his salutation of honor

Bearing the good news of the Mystery
Gabriel was sent with tidings of comfort
Calmly and with caution
She pondered the herald of the angel

My spirit rejoices in My God
Ever vigilant in His praise
Keeping pure of every other thought
So how is it possible for me to bear a child?

He that shall be born from you is the Great and Mighty One
Who is glorified in heaven and earth
Indescribable is the height and depth of this mystery
And you alone shall contain the uncontainable

Great and glorified is He who created you
 Through his love for you He deified mankind
The world is blessed by the fruit of your womb
And I cannot recount the multitude of your glory.

Selam Le’ki eyale
Selam leki eyale/2x/
Har ena werqun sitasmama
Yegebrel dimts tesema…..Tesema!
Yemelaku dimts tesema…..Tesema!
Yegebrel dimts tesema.

Wuha siteqeji kinfun iyamata
Liyabesresh yemetaw betalaq desita
Kemogesish bizat/2/ sitateq sifeta
Aqrebolish neber yekibir selamta

Yemiserachun qal mistir teshekemo
Gabriel telake liyaregagat qedemo
Beregata temoleta/2x/ negerun mermira
Yemelakun bisrat semachiw betera


Yidesetal inji menfese be amlake
Bemisgana sadir zewetir tenberekeke
Hasabe leqitsebet/2x/ lela mech yasibal
Lene lijin meweled indet yichalegnal?

Kanchi yemiweledew ne’ud new kibur
Yetemesegene besemay bemidir
Mistiru hayal new/2x/ yireqal yisefal
Kanchi beqer yihin man yishekemewal?

Etsub new dinq new anchin yefetere
Anchin bemewededu sewen akebere
Alem yibarekal/2x/ bemahetsenish fere
Kibrishin alezeleqim zerzere zerzere.


.....///.....

we sibehat le Egziabher./ Glory be to God.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 02, 2013, 09:12:35 AM
Beautitudes chanted by Malankara Orthodox in Sanskrit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmOwE4NGrWM) ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 07, 2013, 09:14:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXyXXzASPIM - I don't know if lyrics of the song (hymn?) presented in the video is about the Nativity of the Theotokos (that according to the new calendar we celebrate tomorrow), but the pictures are for sure from the celebrations of the feast and they're very interesting as they're taken in Bramhavar Church which is (in some way autonomous) part of the Malankara Orthodox Church.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 07, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXyXXzASPIM - I don't know if lyrics of the song (hymn?) presented in the video is about the Nativity of the Theotokos (that according to the new calendar we celebrate tomorrow), but the pictures are for sure from the celebrations of the feast and they're very interesting as they're taken in Bramhavar Church which is (in some way autonomous) part of the Malankara Orthodox Church.

It's not a liturgical hymn, more of a devotional song (I hesitate to call it paraliturgical), serving as a soundtrack for the photos.  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on September 15, 2013, 10:51:52 PM
This is from the Coptic midnight praises:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RqMYbJ2y-0&list=PL0sU6mrf5w-pMJg7busj79bprph4Ohf7-

I think the above link is part of a new Coptic youtube channel.  It should be nice to look into.  :-)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on September 16, 2013, 04:46:49 AM
great link, i know at least one person in the photo! (uk church; i think i know someone else but not sure as the angle is not good)
 :)

here is the audio to an all english version:
http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Praises/Midnight_Praises/St_Anthony_Monastery,_English_Midnight_Praises/Part_1.html
scroll down to 'second hoos (means little song) lobsh (means explaination)'.

and the words are here:
http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Praises%2FMidnight_Praises%2FFr._David_Bebawy%2C_Coptic_Midnight_Praises%2FPart_1%2Ftrack06.414.mp3

the night time praises are great!
 :D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Pharaoh714 on September 16, 2013, 07:15:10 AM
Coptic Hymn for Virgin Mary in Arabic with English subtitles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGJSpb33z-Q&list=PLL4MYnJHu0Y0g_ht4I5bfOecrnkux_Bw_&index=4


Also some of my Favorites

Syriac Orthodox Hymn for the Apostles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjxpxH0RE8


The Lords Prayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_nJg3N3p9I
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on December 04, 2013, 01:00:15 AM
Beautiful mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGPqBzMwiWs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on December 05, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
A poem by HH Pope Shenouda of blessed memory set to music.

My Throbbing Heart
قلبي الخفاق (qalbi el khafaqul)
By David Ensemble

http://youtu.be/FGRPto1jD5c (http://youtu.be/FGRPto1jD5c)

English lyics I found online:

My Throbbing Heart

Throbbing heart of mine has Your resting place become
In the inner recesses Your place have I concealed
I have left the world in all of its tumults
And withdrawn from all, that I may with You live

No thought have I, nor opinion
Nor other desire save to follow You
And Jacob my father's secret I perceive
Now I know how he with You wrestled

O heart's Companion, how sweet You are!
High and Awesome, how splendid You are!
O Mighty One, in whose palm a whip
Whilst love does Your tear-ducts bleed

The world cannot contain You, oh, how narrow it is!
How, then, can the heart suffice to hold You in?
I have left the world in all of its tumults
And withdrawn from all, that I may with You live

I have left all, my Lord, but You
None have I in life's estrangement but You
And the mind have I checked from its wandering
Wherever You are, there shall my thoughts be

Family and friends have I forgotten
Nay, even the self, in the love of You
I have forgotten all in Your love
O heart's Delight, forget not then Your son

Not distant are You from my spirit which in
The stillness of silence does Your call await
In heaven You are indeed, yet every heart
Living in love is, for You, a heaven

Behold, the eye have I shut from beholding
That perhaps You I may behold
And the ear, too, have I emptied
That perhaps to You I may listen

Throbbing heart of mine has Your resting place become
In the inner recesses Your place have I concealed

Throbbing heart of mine has Your resting place become
In the inner receses Your place have I concealed
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonis on December 07, 2013, 07:08:42 PM
Are there examples of Syriac music without electronic instruments? What would a pre-modern era Syriac liturgy sound/look like?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on December 07, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Are there examples of Syriac music without electronic instruments? What would a pre-modern era Syriac liturgy sound/look like?

If "pre-modern era" means "no electronic instruments", try this: http://youtu.be/2w-m_moJMPk?t=1h8m31s

It is the Liturgy of Great and Holy Thursday (so there are some minor variations from the standard ritual) from my jurisdiction's main seminary in India.  Taking into account that this is a seminary and not a parish, and so the quality of the singing is better, this is basically what it would've been like in India before the popularisation of weapons of Mass destruction electronic instruments.  

Edited: the person who edited the video cuts from one thing to the next randomly and annoyingly, but it's enough to give you a sense of what you asked about. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonis on December 08, 2013, 03:23:26 AM
Are there examples of Syriac music without electronic instruments? What would a pre-modern era Syriac liturgy sound/look like?

If "pre-modern era" means "no electronic instruments", try this: http://youtu.be/2w-m_moJMPk?t=1h8m31s

It is the Liturgy of Great and Holy Thursday (so there are some minor variations from the standard ritual) from my jurisdiction's main seminary in India.  Taking into account that this is a seminary and not a parish, and so the quality of the singing is better, this is basically what it would've been like in India before the popularisation of weapons of Mass destruction electronic instruments.  

Edited: the person who edited the video cuts from one thing to the next randomly and annoyingly, but it's enough to give you a sense of what you asked about. 
No keyboards or artificial echo-y  microphones! Even the candles have actual flames!  :o

Thank you so much, try as hard as I could I could never find one without all the electronics. This is so superior, I don't know how one could trade.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on December 08, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
Thank you so much, try as hard as I could I could never find one without all the electronics.

It's a struggle for me too.  :P

Quote
This is so superior, I don't know how one could trade.

I don't understand it, either.  My home parish is more like the video I recommended and not like the videos you've no doubt encountered, but, at least in America, that seems rare.   

I blame it, for the most part, on an ignorance of what we're doing when worshiping.  Some have the idea that these things add dignity to the celebration and so should be used, but never think about it beyond that.  If the person doesn't know how to play well, it's distracting, but that never registers.  If the music dominates, it takes away from the prayer, but that doesn't register.  Use of instruments and "fancy" choirs rarely encourages congregational participation, but fosters a "liturgy as entertainment" mentality.  If the choir is unplugged, the people will sing: I've seen it.  Nothing is more powerful than a few hundred people chanting in unison during the Liturgy, and nothing is more depressing than a keyboardist and his/her choir robbing that from the worshiping community.  Let me stop ranting before someone has to restrain me.  :P
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 09, 2013, 01:25:49 AM
You know, I have nothing against instruments when tastefully done.  It's the sound effects that I heard once in a parish that I seem find unsettling.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on December 09, 2013, 10:15:09 AM
I agree with Antonis and Mor.  I love the Qurbana as celebrated in the Keralite churches, but the key boards, echoes and sound effects can really be over the top sometimes.  I'm hoping it will pass away with time, as organs have from so many EO churches.  Here's an interesting article on the use of the organ in Syriac churches:

http://returntoorthodoxy.com/instruments-god-man-michael-wingert/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on December 10, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
Nicely written Mor. In Sweden usually only the keyboard is played (the only other instrument I've ever heard is the flute) and (almost) only when the deaconesses sing. A few weeks ago the guy playing the keyboard was away and the liturgy was awesome.

Nothing beats Syriac chanting without instruments...

Typical: http://youtu.be/5r9_9DR30d0?t=50m22s

Straight from the Mountain: http://youtu.be/33A8oBrNXWc?t=38s
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: sheenj on December 20, 2013, 09:41:29 AM
The Southwest-American Diocese of the MOSC has just put out mp3 files of English Nativity hymns, without any keyboards or other instruments. ;D
http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html (http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on December 21, 2013, 05:59:30 PM
The Southwest-American Diocese of the MOSC has just put out mp3 files of English Nativity hymns, without any keyboards or other instruments. ;D
http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html (http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html)

Great chanting, thank you for sharing this. I appreaciate it really much as there are also given the translations; I like a lot Malankara Orthodox chant, but in most cases, I have no clue what these hymns are about, as they're in Malayalam (and google translator does not translate this language) ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on December 22, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
it's Christmas!
time to sing about the burning bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T07ORf3Rq_E
(this clip includes a link to the lyrics:
http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/index.php?a=view&id=2283)

it's lovely how the bush that was not consumed by fire is a symbol of the virgin mary who carried the Lord in her womb.
 :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 23, 2013, 06:05:36 PM
The Southwest-American Diocese of the MOSC has just put out mp3 files of English Nativity hymns, without any keyboards or other instruments. ;D
http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html (http://ds-wa.org/nativity-service-resources.html)

Thank you sheenj, beautiful hymns!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 28, 2013, 03:12:35 PM
I stumbled upon a recording of one of our fraction prayers by a Coptic priest in Massachusetts, Fr. Mousa El-Gohary.  It's a fraction of contrition to the Son, who confesses to the "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" his own wretched, wicked, and evil ways and asks not for His justice against him, but for His never-ending mercy and compassion and healing:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2387

I think Abouna Mousa does a good job capturing the emotional aspect of this in his prayer, and he has a good powerful voice:

https://soundcloud.com/georgemikh/lambofgod

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 29, 2013, 02:00:34 AM
I'm going to introduce you to the legendary Fr. Stephanous Rizk, legendary because he stands out as the only priest who was recorded to have prayed the now extinct Coptic liturgy of St. John the Apostle, which can be referenced here from the Ethiopian liturgy pdf on page 64:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0sMVN64GCA3d0oxUVJlaDg2Zmc/edit?usp=sharing

The reason why it's not prayed anymore is due to synodal restrictions, wishing to standardize all liturgies to be done in any of the three allowed, the Basilian, the Gregorian, and the Cyrillian liturgies (probably restricted because of its peculiar way in oscillating back and forth between praying to the Father and praying to the Son, which may cause confusion).  Nevertheless, the Johannine is still chanted in the Ethiopian/Eritrean Orthodox churches.  It's depth of theological language is evident, along with its Trinitarian, Christological, and Soteriological implications with language of deification (as water is mixed with wine, the priest asks the Son to unite His divinity with our humanity, His greatness with our humility):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpf3cxe6g-4

The same priest also has a recording of one of my favorite fractions, the Fraction to the Son from the Cyrillian Liturgy, which is also rich with very evocative language of theosis:

https://soundcloud.com/fady-nassif/a9pmbpb5fqiv

I think it's worthwhile actually quoting the whole fraction for you, as a very important part of Coptic tradition and theology:

O Lamb of God who carried the sins of the world through Thy suffering; with Thy tenderness, erase our sins.
O Only-Begotten Son of God, Who with Thy pain purified the world; with Thy mercy, purify our souls.
O Christ, Who through Thy death conquered death; Raise our souls from death.
O Thou Who accepted the oblations, Who for the sinners, offered Thyself. Accept repentance from us sinners.
For we came forth to Thee without justifications, knocking on the door of Thy kindness. Grant us, O Treasure of mercies, healing with Thy precious remedies.
Heal, Merciful One, our miserable souls by the ointments of Thy life-giving sacraments.
Purify our bodies, cleanse us from our iniquities, make us worthy for the descent of Thine pure Spirit upon our souls.
Enlighten our minds so we can see Thy praise, purify our thoughts and blend us with Thy glory.
Thy love lowered Thyself down to our level and Thy grace raises us to Thine height.
Thy kindness obliged Thee to incarnate in our flesh. Thou revealed Thy mystery to us.
Reveal in the souls of Thy servants the glory of Thine hidden sacraments.
And when this sacrament is raised on Thine altar, sin will vanish from our bodies by Thy grace.
When Thy glory descends on Thy sacrament, our minds are lifted up to see Thy majesty.
On the change of the bread and wine to the Body and Blood, our souls will change to share in Thy glory, and unite with Thy Divinity.
Create in us, O Lord our God, a pure heart, let Thy Spirit dwell inside us.
Renew our senses with Thy power and make us worthy of Thy gift.
From the Cup of Thy Blood, we drink, give us the spiritual taste to enjoy Thy life-giving sacraments.
We come forward to Thee sure of Thy mercy and Thou dwell in us through Thy love.
Fill us with Thy feat and inflame our hearts with the eagerness of Thee.
Pour into us Thy grace and purify our sense by Thy mercy.
Give us sincere tears and cleanse us from the defilement of sin.
Make us sanctified temples for Thy presence and purified vessels to accept Thee.
So that by tasting Thy Flesh, we become worthy of tasting Thy grace; and by drinking Thy Blood, we become worthy of the sweetness of Thy love.
Thou granted us to eat of Thy Flesh openly, make us worthy to unite with Thee secretly.
Thou granted us to drink Thy Blood openly, grant us to blend with Thy purity secretly.
And as Thou art One with Thy Father and Thine Holy Spirit, we become united with Thee, and Thou with us to fulfill Thy saying, “And that we all may be one in us.”
So with that intimacy, we call on God, Thy Father, our Father, and say with loud voices:
Our Father …

from http://e.copticbook.net/index.php?b=20101101001&f=0518&h=0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on December 29, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
It's a shame that the fullness of our liturgical tradition is denied to us, that full deacons can't cense, et cetera.  This sort of thing makes absolutely no sense to me.  I hope that in the future the fullness of our tradition is restored to us.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Hiwot on December 29, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
I stumbled upon a recording of one of our fraction prayers by a Coptic priest in Massachusetts, Fr. Mousa El-Gohary.  It's a fraction of contrition to the Son, who confesses to the "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" his own wretched, wicked, and evil ways and asks not for His justice against him, but for His never-ending mercy and compassion and healing:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2387

I think Abouna Mousa does a good job capturing the emotional aspect of this in his prayer, and he has a good powerful voice:

https://soundcloud.com/georgemikh/lambofgod

Enjoy!

you are right my dear mina, Abouna Mousa communicates the greatness of God's Love so beautifully in the way he prays this  prayer. thank you.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on December 29, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
It's a shame that the fullness of our liturgical tradition is denied to us, that full deacons can't cense, et cetera.  This sort of thing makes absolutely no sense to me.  I hope that in the future the fullness of our tradition is restored to us.

Some people have advocated that our liturgical tradition seems to be a way that needed an inner consistency.  Some have said that priests should not mix the Basilian and the Gregorian as some priests do at times, because one is prayed to the Father while the other is prayed to the Son, and the Fraction chosen should be done likewise.  That might be the main reason why St. John's liturgy was not synodally approved.  However, I do agree that we should pray those liturgies for the totality of our liturgical tradition.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on December 29, 2013, 04:20:01 PM
Some people have advocated that our liturgical tradition seems to be a way that needed an inner consistency.  Some have said that priests should not mix the Basilian and the Gregorian as some priests do at times, because one is prayed to the Father while the other is prayed to the Son, and the Fraction chosen should be done likewise.  That might be the main reason why St. John's liturgy was not synodally approved.  However, I do agree that we should pray those liturgies for the totality of our liturgical tradition.

Mina, I understand and agree that mixing the liturgies as you describe should not be done.  That said, nothing would preclude us from praying all of the liturgies and anaphorae in their proper places and at their proper times as our Ethiopian and Eritrean brothers and sisters do.  I defer to the wisdom of our fathers, however.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 22, 2014, 01:55:58 AM
Joyous Light

http://youtu.be/XzefvF3BAK8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 22, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
Ya kol al sefoof (All You Heavenly Hosts)

All you heavenly orders, Sing to our God with the melody of praise, Rejoice with us today with gladness, In the Resurrection of the Lord Christ.

Today the prophecies are fulfilled, And the sayings of the forefathers are realized, By the Resurrection of the Lord from among the dead, He is the firstfruit of those who have fallen asleep.

The Lord arose as one who sleeps, And as one who is sated with wine, He has granted us the everlasting joy, And freed us from bitter bondage.

He led Hades captive, And crushed its doors of copper, He utterly broke the bars of iron, And for us, exchanged salvation for punishment.

He restored Adam to Paradise, With joy, gladness, and happiness, Him and his sons who were in captivity, To the place of joy once more.

Today the flags of salvation spread, And the bodies and spirits were renewed, And the believers won the clemency for retribution, And glorified God with praises and joy.

Today the daughter of David rejoiced, And the hearts of the righteous Apostles became glad, When the women announced to them the fulfillment of the promise, And what they heard from the pure angels.

That Jesus Christ is risen, "He is not here as you see," So the women went to His honored Disciples and announced to them, The Resurrection of the Creator of all things.

He appeared to His Disciples and gave them joy, With delight, they saw Him transfiguring, In the glory of His divinity and He made them happy, When they saw Him alive

We praise and increase His exaltation, And confess the glory of His Resurrection, We thank Him for His great grace, For His mercy endures forever.


http://youtu.be/Dj1snQPCOpA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 24, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
Komitas - Groong

http://youtu.be/0CIC55rSdds (http://youtu.be/0CIC55rSdds)

From Isabel Bayrakdarian's FB page:

The first sighting of the crane symbolizes the return of spring and rebirth. Unless of course, the crane is coming back to the Armenia of 1915, where on the fateful night of April 24, Armenian leaders, intellectuals, politicians, and musicians were systematically deported en masse by the Ottoman Empire in what was to be the start of the first genocide of the 20th century, in which 1.5 million Armenians lost their lives.

The second verse of this song “Crane, go back, fly far away from this country” has come to symbolize the devastation of Armenia and the suffering of its people caused by the genocide.

99 years... We remember.

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 25, 2014, 02:21:40 AM
Psalm 116

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkf0yFrvyQ
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 30, 2014, 05:31:58 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

I've never been a huge fan (I don't understand reality TV,) and of course Kim and Kanye's wedding was not Armenian Orthodox, but I thought I would post a link to some traditional Armenian wedding folk music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphsM6nABCw

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on May 30, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

...

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

Even "many months" would be an improvement.  :P
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 30, 2014, 06:28:06 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

I've never been a huge fan (I don't understand reality TV,) and of course Kim and Kanye's wedding was not Armenian Orthodox, but I thought I would post a link to some traditional Armenian wedding folk music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphsM6nABCw

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

I love the qanoun
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 30, 2014, 10:36:15 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

...

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

Even "many months" would be an improvement.  :P

Yeah, that would be nice.   :D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 30, 2014, 10:37:54 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

I've never been a huge fan (I don't understand reality TV,) and of course Kim and Kanye's wedding was not Armenian Orthodox, but I thought I would post a link to some traditional Armenian wedding folk music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphsM6nABCw

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

I love the qanoun

It's a beautiful instrument. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dhinuus on June 04, 2014, 12:14:07 PM
Syriac hymns from shimo (liturgy of hours during ordinary days)

From Monday Sapro (morning prayers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIyZlFfa8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIyZlFfa8M)

From Monday Sootoro (bedtime prayers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK19Q_DYym8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK19Q_DYym8)

From Tuesday Third hour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c604MG996q8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c604MG996q8)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on June 04, 2014, 12:43:47 PM
Radio Beth Gazo, even has iOS & Google apps!

http://www.radiobethgazo.com/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 04, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
That is so cool!

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on June 04, 2014, 12:57:46 PM
It really is cool, I love it. Salpy, should we start an OO mobile app thread  ;D
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Post by: Salpy on June 04, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
I think that's a great idea.  I know other apps have been mentioned in various threads.  It would be nice to have the info in one place.  Feel free to be the one to start the thread.   :) 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on June 04, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Radio Beth Gazo, even has iOS & Google apps!

http://www.radiobethgazo.com/


LOVE it!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 05, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
Ethiopian Orthodox Mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xdqx1VZsk3o
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 09, 2014, 02:46:16 AM
A beautiful hymn by St. Nerses Shnorhali, Nayats Sirov:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs_aBptkKzA&list=PLFD9DA8FAD71634D4



It's sung so well by the children.   :)  I'm pretty sure this is from the Arevagal in Geghart CD I mentioned a while back in this thread.

The lyrics for the hymn can be found translated here:

http://www.stnersess.edu/daily-hours-peace-hour.html
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 17, 2014, 12:29:16 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

I've never been a huge fan (I don't understand reality TV,) and of course Kim and Kanye's wedding was not Armenian Orthodox, but I thought I would post a link to some traditional Armenian wedding folk music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphsM6nABCw

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

I love the qanoun

This is for you, Mina.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUm03-iV0O8sSMpOyQK3Qjcg&v=eEq3GXy5Clc

Anual kanun concert at Etchmiadzin.  There are some talented kids there.   :o
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 25, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
I'm pretty sure this is about the raising of Lazarus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnqnNBW9SEI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on June 25, 2014, 03:10:52 PM
So all people are talking about now is the wedding of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West, otherwise known as Kimye.

I've never been a huge fan (I don't understand reality TV,) and of course Kim and Kanye's wedding was not Armenian Orthodox, but I thought I would post a link to some traditional Armenian wedding folk music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphsM6nABCw

Many years to the happy couple.  :-)

I love the qanoun

This is for you, Mina.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUm03-iV0O8sSMpOyQK3Qjcg&v=eEq3GXy5Clc

Anual kanun concert at Etchmiadzin.  There are some talented kids there.   :o

If I have a daughter, I will have her admitted into this!   ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 26, 2014, 09:16:19 PM
Audio recording of an Armenian liturgy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DFfqj757JI&list=UULnmf0o-6lCEO7fKdi_7cgg
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Gebre Egziabeher on July 06, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq91RDVYfFg

Mezmur in our Ethiopian Orthodox Parish in Sweden about two months ago.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on July 31, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
From the Armenian Church:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqWqxLqBIs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on July 31, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
From the Armenian Church:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqWqxLqBIs

Very nice!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: JamesLesser on August 01, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq91RDVYfFg

Mezmur in our Ethiopian Orthodox Parish in Sweden about two months ago.

Really beautiful!  I've just started to listen to Ethiopian hymns and I really love them.  I am not sure if it has been posted before but here is one I found which I really love.  I wish I understood the words. 

http://youtu.be/li39EUQw3w8 (http://youtu.be/li39EUQw3w8)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on August 04, 2014, 02:27:55 AM
This is from one of the prayers of St. Nareg.  It is sung during the Husgoom (Rest) Service at night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNAonCbuxXw&list=UULnmf0o-6lCEO7fKdi_7cgg


Quote
Accept with sweetness almighty Lord my bitter prayers.
Look with pity upon my mournful face.
Dispel, all-bestowing God, my shameful sadness.
Lift, merciful God, my unbearable burden....

Read the rest of the prayer here:

http://www.stgregoryofnarek.am/book.php?parent_id=13&type=2&type_1=none

It starts part way through section C of Prayer 12

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: makeda on August 08, 2014, 03:11:20 AM
Dear mother of light, pray for us!!!

http://youtu.be/ehR2D4PCKgw
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: makeda on August 13, 2014, 01:52:59 AM
<3

http://youtu.be/sP4ffByFmJw
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 19, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Not music, but videos.  These Liturgies were celebrated in the context of the Eight World Syriac Conference, held at St Ephrem Ecumenical Research Institute (SEERI), Kottayam, India, from 8-13 September 2014.

West Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/wGqgp4vqQe4 (celebrant, HE Mor Ostatheos Isaac)
http://youtu.be/SAqJjWlCpeo (celebrant, the Rev Dr MP George)

East Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/sWpAeUIC_cU (celebrant, HG Mar Aprem)
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Post by: Antonious Nikolas on September 19, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
Two comments/questions, Mor:

1. Thank you for these!  The West Syriac Rite is so heavenly without the organs/keyboards.  It's a real treat for me.  If you can tell me where any parishes which chant unaccompanied might be located here in the NY/NJ/PA area, I'd love to visit.

2. I'd be thrilled to find out that the East Syriac rite was preserved somewhere in our communion, but these guys are under the ACoE, right?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 19, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
Two comments/questions, Mor:

1. Thank you for these!  The West Syriac Rite is so heavenly without the organs/keyboards.  It's a real treat for me. 

Yes, and for all the faithful.  Good grief, keyboards are horrible. 

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If you can tell me where any parishes which chant unaccompanied might be located here in the NY/NJ/PA area, I'd love to visit.

PM me.  I have to think about it.   :-\

Quote
2. I'd be thrilled to find out that the East Syriac rite was preserved somewhere in our communion, but these guys are under the ACoE, right?

That is correct. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on September 19, 2014, 06:13:12 PM
Thanks all around, my friend!  :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonis on September 19, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
The church in those videos is great!
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Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 19, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
The church in those videos is great!

Which one?  The first and third Liturgies were celebrated in SEERI's chapel, if I'm not mistaken, and the second was celebrated at the Orthodox Theological Seminary. 
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Post by: Antonis on September 19, 2014, 07:52:58 PM
The church in those videos is great!

Which one?  The first and third Liturgies were celebrated in SEERI's chapel, if I'm not mistaken, and the second was celebrated at the Orthodox Theological Seminary. 
Ah, I had only watched the first and third. That second one is beautiful, too. I liked the iconography in the other.
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Post by: minasoliman on September 20, 2014, 09:33:18 PM
Not music, but videos.  These Liturgies were celebrated in the context of the Eight World Syriac Conference, held at St Ephrem Ecumenical Research Institute (SEERI), Kottayam, India, from 8-13 September 2014.

West Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/wGqgp4vqQe4 (celebrant, HE Mor Ostatheos Isaac)
http://youtu.be/SAqJjWlCpeo (celebrant, the Rev Dr MP George)

East Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/sWpAeUIC_cU (celebrant, HG Mar Aprem)


The video says "Chaldean Church", but he is Metropolitan of the Assyrian Church in India, no?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: dzheremi on September 20, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
The Assyrian Church in India is known as "Chaldean", for some reason. (Mor, do you know why? I've never heard why, from either Indians or Iraqis.)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonis on September 20, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
I love the white guy who is dressed more ethnically than most of the Indians in the first video.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 20, 2014, 10:26:44 PM
The Assyrian Church in India is known as "Chaldean", for some reason. (Mor, do you know why? I've never heard why, from either Indians or Iraqis.)

I'm not exactly sure why.  It may be simply a legal matter. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: JamesLesser on October 07, 2014, 11:13:36 PM
Here is a song in hindi I ran across today.  I actually like the use of instruments in this also, which is rare. 

http://youtu.be/lkJV7E5XfHs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: mabsoota on October 08, 2014, 10:39:45 AM
that's lovely, do you know where we can find the translation?
 :)
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Post by: JamesLesser on October 08, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
that's lovely, do you know where we can find the translation?
 :)

I am sorry, I don't know the exact translation.  However, I believe that the meaning is taken from two other songs; "Those Apostles" and "Paul the Blessed". 

Those apostles;
 Chosen, sent by God, they went
 To ev'ry place,
 Through all the world
 Gentiles heard from them the news
 The Gospel grace.
 They proclaimed-the kingdom,
 Heav'n's rule-of freedom,
 For the faithful bliss.

 Paul the Blessed-
 Saint, the Lord's Apostle, said
 If one comes to preach to you
 Other doctrine than we knew,
 Be he man or angel bright,
 Curs'd be he in Church's sight;
 Doctrines all diverse arise,
 Shooting up with many lies;
 Blest is he who first and last
 Trusts God's truth and holds it fast.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on November 06, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
"Quta Der", an Armenian Requiem by Isabel Beyrakdarian and Yerevan Chamber Choir

http://youtu.be/3EpBU8QG1Ag (http://youtu.be/3EpBU8QG1Ag)
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Post by: sheenj on December 16, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
A collection of Indian Orthodox hymns from the service of Holy Matrimony. The songs are in English and Malayalam, with the Malayalam versions being sung by Fr. N K Korathu Kathanar, a famous Malpan of the IOC who passed away in 2001.

http://ds-wa.org/holy-matrimony.html (http://ds-wa.org/holy-matrimony.html)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on February 07, 2015, 10:40:24 PM
Originally posted by Mor in another thread, this is quite beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqLL80aqZqA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Suryoyutho on March 01, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
Beautiful prayer in the ancient Monastery of Mor Augin in Tur Abdin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vQMfkISUI
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on March 28, 2015, 08:09:56 AM
Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
Gholghota (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y)
Thok te ti ghom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk)
Aripsalin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0)
Vol evol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on March 29, 2015, 09:20:17 AM
Beautiful!  And yet I'd wager that those who wish to poison our Church with CCM would regard this as too staid and formal.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 30, 2015, 12:04:47 AM
Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
Gholghota (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y)
Thok te ti ghom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk)
Aripsalin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0)
Vol evol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4)

My eyes got very teary on Vol Evol...as I mentioned in another forum, these sound quite natural as if these hymns were made for polyphony

And Golgotha!!! This truly reflects a burial hymn for Christ.  I can definitely imagine taking Christ down from the Cross and sending him to the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea...a worthy way to chant the conclusion of Good Friday
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 31, 2015, 01:02:12 AM
My favorite priest, Fr. Dawoud Bebawy, to listen to, chanting the Fraction to the Virgin and the Angels in english:

https://soundcloud.com/mikeyyoussef/fraction-for-the-virgin-and-angels-fr-dawoud-bibawy

text:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2506
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: wgw on April 02, 2015, 11:20:01 PM
Recently one of the Armenians posted for me three links to different recordings of the Badarak and also mentioned there are two major musical settings in use of it. 

And stupid me, I forgot to bookmark that post.   So can Salpy or Aram or another Armenian generously tell me all that again?  I may have been in error in thinking they were saying there were two major musical settings.   I myself have two recordings of the Badarak in my iTunes library which are very different; one of them is referred to as "Armenian Liturgy - Patarag" and has a decidedly more oeiental sound.  I would love to hear a recording of the Armenian Lirurgy that makes use of cymbals.
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Post by: CoptoGeek on April 16, 2015, 01:47:36 PM
Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
Gholghota (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y)
Thok te ti ghom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk)
Aripsalin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0)
Vol evol (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4)

My eyes got very teary on Vol Evol...as I mentioned in another forum, these sound quite natural as if these hymns were made for polyphony

And Golgotha!!! This truly reflects a burial hymn for Christ.  I can definitely imagine taking Christ down from the Cross and sending him to the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea...a worthy way to chant the conclusion of Good Friday

Very beautiful, may Bishoy Awad be our Komitas.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 16, 2015, 01:49:30 PM
Frederica Mathewes-Green posted this on her FB page.

Nelly Gasparyan singing Lord have mercy in the Holy Cross Cathedral on Aghtamar Island in Lake Van.

https://youtu.be/UPwVgwp-ohs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 12, 2015, 11:11:13 PM
I like this:

http://saintcyril.us/new/media/hymns/feasts/resurrection/khristos_anesty_long/khristos_anesty_long.html

This is Xristos Anesti chanted in the Coptic way.  What I like most though about the way this hymn is chanted is that the person chanting is actually pronouncing the Greek correctly, something that we Copts need to work on  :P
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: qawe on May 13, 2015, 12:49:43 AM
I like this:

http://saintcyril.us/new/media/hymns/feasts/resurrection/khristos_anesty_long/khristos_anesty_long.html

This is Xristos Anesti chanted in the Coptic way.  What I like most though about the way this hymn is chanted is that the person chanting is actually pronouncing the Greek correctly, something that we Copts need to work on  :P

Why does he chant it without the jenkim on MNHMACI?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on May 13, 2015, 08:00:46 AM
Because there's no such thing as a jenkim in Greek.  That's the way it is supposed to be pronounced.  Same thing at the very beginning.  There is no "eXristos", it's just "Xristos".
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on May 15, 2015, 10:39:56 PM
"Der Voghormya" (Lord have mercy) sung on April 24 at the ruins of an Armenian church in Diyarbakir:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVbkZqVVwo

Diyarbakir used to be called Dikranagert, and it's where my grandmother's family came from.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on July 07, 2015, 06:57:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/hetsojp/videos/1003231809710335/

When Ethiopians and Syrians get together...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on July 07, 2015, 07:01:43 PM
https://www.facebook.com/hetsojp/videos/1003231809710335/

When Ethiopians and Syrians get together...

I love this video!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: HaydenTE on August 14, 2015, 02:00:59 PM
Chant by the cantors of St. George Coptic Church, accompanied by icons from the parish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: biro on August 14, 2015, 03:31:32 PM
Chant by the cantors of St. George Coptic Church, accompanied by icons from the parish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58)

That's really good! :)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on October 12, 2015, 11:36:21 AM
It's a little early for Christmas, but I really enjoyed this site:

http://syrianorthodoxchurch.com/pastor/SYRIAC_C/syriac_c.htm
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on October 12, 2015, 12:13:20 PM
It's a little early for Christmas, but I really enjoyed this site:

http://syrianorthodoxchurch.com/pastor/SYRIAC_C/syriac_c.htm

He really is wonderful.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on November 25, 2015, 03:56:16 PM
Coptic Kiahk chant "Ya Maryam" in Arabic by Fairuz :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBapI67BUEA
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on November 25, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
If Fairuz would chant all the Coptic hymns, at least those in Kiahk (Advent month), I would be the happiest man!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 06, 2016, 06:48:24 PM
Avedis - Armenian song for Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMxBkHo-IpE) ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dimitryet on January 22, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
I like this ethiopian music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgZLtJ4WEE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You may find a lot justly on youtube (Mirtnesh like singeress)

Also i like few songs by Marie Keyrouz (maronitian)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on February 08, 2016, 07:25:50 PM
For something a little different...

Ninjos de Dios - Shubkono 2009 (https://youtu.be/xU2mX1Ag2g4)

Syriac Hip Hop
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on February 08, 2016, 07:46:55 PM
Memra up son!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: RaphaCam on February 08, 2016, 09:32:20 PM
I like this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k75E1V6q8A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k75E1V6q8A)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: hecma925 on February 09, 2016, 08:44:03 AM
Chant by the cantors of St. George Coptic Church, accompanied by icons from the parish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghnXK9dVH58)

I like the iconography.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: RaphaCam on March 12, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
Tasbeha - Theotokia Part 7 - Hail to you Mary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-IWOdI15VQ)

I don't recall having heard the Theotokos being compared to a dove before.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on March 12, 2016, 05:53:37 PM
Tasbeha - Theotokia Part 7 - Hail to you Mary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-IWOdI15VQ)

I don't recall having heard the Theotokos being compared to a dove before.

It's not new. It's in the Great Lent praises to the Thetokos
http://lent.goarch.org/prayers/akathist.asp
Rejoice, 0 ever-virgin, dove that brought forth the Lord of mercy. -

And in (at least) a few other places.
I remember this comparision also exists in Polish Catholic songs.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: RaphaCam on March 12, 2016, 06:51:41 PM
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The Beautiful Dove – The title is in remembrance of the beautiful dove that carried to our father Noah a branch of an olive tree, as a symbol of peace, bringing to him the good news of the deliverance from the waters of the flood (Genesis 8:11). With this title, the priest burns incense in front of her icon when he goes out of the sanctuary and says: “Hail to you, O Virgin Mary, the beautiful dove”. In the Praxis response, the deacons chant in Coptic “Hail to you, Mary, the fair dove, who bore to us God the Logos.” Saint Mary is compared to the dove in her simplicity and purity, and the action of the Holy Spirit in her. She resembles the dove which brought the good news of the deliverance after the flood, because she brought the good news of our deliverance (salvation) in Christ.

Source (http://lacopts.org/orthodoxy/our-faith/the-holy-virgin-mary/titles-of-the-holy-theotokos-saint-mary/)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Brigidsboy on March 13, 2016, 03:28:44 PM
Avedis - Armenian song for Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMxBkHo-IpE) ;)

Truly wonderful!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: rakovsky on March 13, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Have any of you heard of the special Ethiopian Church musicians called the Debtera, and what do you think about them?

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A debtera... is an itinerant religious figure...  in the Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Churches, who sings hymns and dances for churchgoers, and who performs exorcisms and white magic to aid the congregation. ...They may in fact be officially ordained as deacons, or may act outside the Church hierarchy. They are usually feared by the local population, who often mistake them for madmen.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Ethiopian_Painting_2005_SeanMcClean.JPG/375px-Ethiopian_Painting_2005_SeanMcClean.JPG)
Performing debteras

Kahens and debteras are two separate professions,[1] though it is possible to pursue both roles.[13] The Ethiopian Church sees the division as following the model used by the ancient Israelites.[14]

During Lenten services, debteras tap prayer sticks to keep the rhythm. The Ethiopian Church condones the performances of debteras, citing the story in 2 Kings of King David dancing at the temple and Psalm 47:1 ("clap your hands") for Biblical examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtera#Among_Christians
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 09, 2016, 07:13:47 AM
http://www.predanie.ru/ghada-shbeyr-ghada-shbeir/siriyskie-pesnopeniya/#/description

At least some of these chants are for Nativty, but franly speaking don't know, if all of them
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 10, 2016, 10:57:38 AM
It's Assyrian, but I like the melody, the text is interesting too; is there in Syriac Western tradition similar hymn in content?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFfngTKD_U8
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: CoptoGeek on April 19, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
"harpa dei" singing the Syriac Orthodox melody to "Our Father" at the Valaam Monastery

https://www.facebook.com/100008883278483/videos/1455212661451496/ (https://www.facebook.com/100008883278483/videos/1455212661451496/)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 24, 2016, 09:01:47 AM
I know it's EO hymn of the Holy Week, however, I've read it's Armenian (or Armenian-based) melody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1lZppmLkRs
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Aram on April 24, 2016, 11:09:15 AM
Yes, that's the melody for an Armenian hymn sung on Holy Thursday evening, "Where Are You, My Mother."
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 24, 2016, 05:11:58 PM
Yes, that's the melody for an Armenian hymn sung on Holy Thursday evening, "Where Are You, My Mother."
Thank for the info. I like hymn "Where Are You, My Mother." but couldn't associate the hymn from the link with this melody ;)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on June 30, 2016, 05:42:16 PM
If you ever wanted to find out what the Coptic hymn for deification (known as the Friday Theotokia) sounds like:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/146?mid=10992

This next one is done with a Coptic "Sahidic" accent, by Deacon Antonios Shenoudian, (along with alternating English) who is an expert in the Sahidic form of Coptic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWq_rHMrTFk

Listen to the chorus of both those links and you'll recognize the difference.

Here's a contemplation of the hymn:

http://www.copticheritage.org/contemplations/3_annual_weekday_praise/the_friday_theotokia
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alkis on June 30, 2016, 05:54:28 PM
If you ever wanted to find out what the Coptic hymn for deification (known as the Friday Theotokia) sounds like:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/146?mid=10992

This next one is done with a Coptic "Sahidic" accent, by Deacon Antonios Shenoudian, (along with alternating English) who is an expert in the Sahidic form of Coptic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWq_rHMrTFk

Listen to the chorus of both those links and you'll recognize the difference.

Here's a contemplation of the hymn:

http://www.copticheritage.org/contemplations/3_annual_weekday_praise/the_friday_theotokia

They are all great!!! I so love Marian hymns. Blessed are you Most Holy Theotokos!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on June 30, 2016, 06:08:37 PM

This next one is done with a Coptic "Sahidic" accent, by Deacon Antonios Shenoudian, (along with alternating English) who is an expert in the Sahidic form of Coptic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWq_rHMrTFk
Very, very beautiful :) Melody, chant and the text.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Alkis on June 30, 2016, 06:13:54 PM
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The Beautiful Dove – The title is in remembrance of the beautiful dove that carried to our father Noah a branch of an olive tree, as a symbol of peace, bringing to him the good news of the deliverance from the waters of the flood (Genesis 8:11). With this title, the priest burns incense in front of her icon when he goes out of the sanctuary and says: “Hail to you, O Virgin Mary, the beautiful dove”. In the Praxis response, the deacons chant in Coptic “Hail to you, Mary, the fair dove, who bore to us God the Logos.” Saint Mary is compared to the dove in her simplicity and purity, and the action of the Holy Spirit in her. She resembles the dove which brought the good news of the deliverance after the flood, because she brought the good news of our deliverance (salvation) in Christ.

Source (http://lacopts.org/orthodoxy/our-faith/the-holy-virgin-mary/titles-of-the-holy-theotokos-saint-mary/)

And I was curious why we call her dove! Nice!!!
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: juliogb on July 01, 2016, 07:34:13 AM
I like the coptic hymns Aripsalin and Je nai nan.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 27, 2016, 06:00:37 PM
Not Oriental, but we can't forget about Syriac Orthodoxy in India ;) (and our dear forumer ;) )

Assyrian Church Hymn of St Thomas Arrival in India (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVnAZtorcHY)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on September 29, 2016, 10:28:40 AM
Not Oriental, but we can't forget about Syriac Orthodoxy in India ;) (and our dear forumer ;) )

Assyrian Church Hymn of St Thomas Arrival in India (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVnAZtorcHY)

:)

I wish they were Orthodox...
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: gbesh on September 30, 2016, 03:24:12 AM
Hello, I'm new here and I just wanted to ask if it would be appropriate to make a request for someone to identify what's in a recording here?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on September 30, 2016, 06:30:40 AM
Hello, I'm new here and I just wanted to ask if it would be appropriate to make a request for someone to identify what's in a recording here?
Sure :) Go on.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: gbesh on September 30, 2016, 06:38:45 AM
Thank you :)

Can anyone provide me with the text for the last 15 minutes of the below recording. I would really appreciate if it also included the things the chanter says aswell as what the metropolitan is saying. I heard that this could be some thing exclusive to the Coptic liturgy of st Gregory that has been replaced with the appropriate parts from st basils.
https://soundcloud.com/mona-maxwell/b-1
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on December 26, 2016, 06:04:35 PM
Armenian Traditional Christmas and New Year song by "Vostan"  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvkZ79GYuI)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 09, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Coptic children song about st. Makarios (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaQYZAEVQY)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on January 09, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
Coptic children song about st. Makarios (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaQYZAEVQY)

Based on this story:

https://sayingsoftheorthodoxfathers.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/the-grapes-of-fraternal-love-abba-macarius-the-egyptian/
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on January 12, 2017, 05:41:08 PM
Coptic children song about st. Makarios (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaQYZAEVQY)

Based on this story:

https://sayingsoftheorthodoxfathers.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/the-grapes-of-fraternal-love-abba-macarius-the-egyptian/
Thanks :)
Now I see there is also Serbian Orthodox song about this story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHgNOnyVYb0
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on February 08, 2017, 05:27:51 PM
Gregorian Anaphora by Fr. David Bebawy:

https://soundcloud.com/pishoy-bebawi/fr-david-bebawy-english-gregorian-liturgy-anaphora-and-agios
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: rakovsky on February 18, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
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Saint Yared Choir, Debtera from Ethiopia, Live in Cologne, Sacred Music, Liturgy, Part I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42eOOTMIdbQ
I shall make the sign of the cross... Even if I fall down, I will rise up in the sign of the cross.
^Nice statement.

Listening to the singing now.

I liked part III more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHu9kaeomgM
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 25, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
Thank you :)

Can anyone provide me with the text for the last 15 minutes of the below recording. I would really appreciate if it also included the things the chanter says aswell as what the metropolitan is saying. I heard that this could be some thing exclusive to the Coptic liturgy of st Gregory that has been replaced with the appropriate parts from st basils.
https://soundcloud.com/mona-maxwell/b-1

Sorry for the late response.  But I got a chance to finally sit down and just listen to this old and interesting recording.

This is a very peculiar liturgy because instruments were used apparently.  This is a recording of a Nativity liturgy lead by Metropolitan Thomas of Gharbia, Kafr el Sheikh, and el Beheira (all three now are separate dioceses) who according to a website "Copts United" in Arabic (a friend pretty much read to me his story), died in 1956.  The story about him is all from that same website.

The interesting story about him is that he was a night club musician before he was attracted by the Church hymns and became more religious.  His religiosity even lead him to take his vows as a monk in the Baramous Monastery as well as receive good theological training.  He was well known for his musical prowess and voice (as you can tell from the liturgical recording, almost as if attending a somewhat orchestrated concerto), as well as his diplomacy in relationships with the Egyptian government.  He was the secretary of the Holy Synod under Pope Yousab and convened the synod which deposed Pope Yousab from his papal duties in 1956.

Apparently evident in the liturgical recording, he brought instruments into festal liturgies (liturgies on special occasions, like the Nativity in this recording), something that is frowned upon by the Coptic Church in general in any liturgy today.

The cause of his death is a tragic train accident, him with another Coptic bishop in 1956 on their way to solidify their opposition to Pope Yousab. 

There is a Nativity liturgy of him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJi25gUzzF8) (I think the same one, but begins earlier than the soundtube one) on youtube, and the youtube title claims the liturgy to be in 1958, which I think was made in error.  Anyway, the recording you have here:

The first ten minutes or so are Basilian (http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/liturgy/liturgy_of_st_basil.pdf).  After they chant "Have mercy" (single chanter, then music, then choir), Metropolitan Thomas chants from "The Litany of the Waters, The Plants, etc." all the way to the end of the Commemoration of the Saints (pp 102-107; the Diptych is skipped, which usually is only chanted if a recent clerical departure occurred) and then the first pre-Fraction prayer (Those O Lord whose souls... pp 109-110). 

Then it skips the congregational response and jumps to the Gregorian (http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/liturgy/stgregory.pdf) pre-Fraction prayers at around 10:50 where he says "Peace be with all" (p 88) and then skips to "O He who blessed" (p 90) until p 92.

Then at 18:00 the General Fraction of the Feasts is said, "We praise, we glorify the God of gods..." (Basil pdf pp 144-145; every one or two paragraphs the chanter/choir says "Lord have mercy" three times) until around the 27th minute saying the Lord's prayer (Basil pdf p 115), then the prayers before the Confession begin at the 30th minute (pp 122-123 "The Holies are for the Holy"). 

Then after the triple affirmation that this is the body and blood of Christ, the chanter says AGAIN "One is the Holy Father, One is the Holy Son, One is the Holy Spirit. Amen!" (p. 122) at around the middle of the 32nd minute, leading to the Metropolitan to do the third affirmation AGAIN, but this time in Arabic instead of the Greek.  The chanter responds not "Amen. We believe" as we usually do, but rather, "We believe in His??? Body and also we believe in His??? Blood which ??????? our sins.  Truly, we believe!" I couldn't tell what he was saying either because of the recording or the Metropolitan praying loudly into the microphone the Confession in Coptic (pp 124-125), but in other words, it's a non-conventional response no one in the Coptic Church uses today.

Finally around the middle of the 34th minute, the Metropolitan ends the Confession "I believe, I believe, I believe that this is so in truth. Amen."  The altar deacon response to the confession (p 125) is chanted but is cut off in the middle of the 35th minute by the congregation chant "Glory to You, O Lord, glory to You".

Then Psalm 150 began to be chanted with "Alleluia!  Alleluia!  Alleluia!  Alleluia!" but is interrupted suddenly by the congregation exclaiming "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!" (usually that means the clergy is now coming out with the Body and/or Blood of Christ), then some commentator and the audio cuts off around the 36th minute.

This isn't recorded, but for the sake of curiosity, in the Nativity, every verse of Psalm 150 we chant the refrain "Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was born in Bethlehem!"

Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 25, 2017, 01:45:15 PM
For an English recording of the Fraction Prayer for Feasts in general (with the Basilian pre-Fraction prayers, not Gregorian), here is one by Fr. John Ibrahim serving in Jersey City, NJ:

https://soundcloud.com/kyrillos-attaalla/fraction-of-the-feasts-of-our-lord-fr-john-ibrahim

To hear the Gregorian pre-Fraction prayers in English (Nativity Liturgy), Fr. Antonious Tanious of Hillsborough, NJ does a superb job here (begins at 1:12:59):

https://soundcloud.com/miriam-tawadros/st-gregory-liturgy-in-english-by-fr-antonious-tanious

With the exception of this one part in Coptic, which is translated:

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Priest:
Remember, O Lord, the others: the faithful whom we have mentioned and also the Orthodox ones whom we have not mentioned. Them and us together with them; as a Good One and Lover of mankind, O God:

People:
Absolve, forgive and remit, O God, our transgressions, those we have committed willingly and those which we have committed unwillingly; those which we have committed knowingly and those which we have committed unknowingly; the hidden and the manifest. O Lord, forgive us them (these sins).

And the second part in Coptic:

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Priest:
That in this, as in all things, Your great and holy name may be glorified, blessed and exalted, which is in all things honoured and blessed, together with Your good Father and the Holy Spirit.

Peace to all.

People:
And to your spirit
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on March 25, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
lyrics (http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/149)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on March 30, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Coptic band "Elmes Edena" (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFkz3JBZD31IBSU0vwtDgeg)

Some examples:
Great Lent doxology (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAgLc7fa3ZE)
Holy Week hymn "Thok te thi ghom" in Coptic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4GU7hY2vzo)
Holy Weej hymn "Thok te thi ghom" in Arabic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URYXmEigks)
Psalm "Rafadoonee" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GeDY_Lw_gs)
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 08, 2017, 02:38:49 PM
Joyous Ethiopian Orthodox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QskKFZpnFI)

I wish I had such worship at my parish;D
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: rakovsky on April 24, 2017, 05:49:39 PM
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Dominika on April 24, 2017, 06:16:28 PM
Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

It's definitely a paraliturgical song. And with an error in writing (at least in standard Arabic), as it should be معنا not معانا ("with us").
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on April 24, 2017, 06:39:03 PM
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

This was a Protestant concert gathering.  The Coptic priest responsible for this was deposed and if I'm not mistaken eventually excommunicated from the Church.

His Grace Bishop Abanoub took over the cave church of St. Simeon the cobbler and restored its Orthodoxy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6leWgcixE
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: rakovsky on April 24, 2017, 06:48:25 PM


This was a Protestant concert gathering.  The Coptic priest responsible for this was deposed and if I'm not mistaken eventually excommunicated from the Church.

His Grace Bishop Abanoub took over the cave church to St. Simeon the cobbler and restored its Orthodoxy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6leWgcixE
Good info, thanks for sharing.
It sounds like somehow it got into the hands of a pro-Protestant priest and he set up bleachers outside for Gospel Music concerts?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: minasoliman on April 24, 2017, 06:49:45 PM
Yes; he's no longer in the Church and these events no longer occur; he took advantage of the situation when we were transitioning between Popes.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on April 24, 2017, 06:57:39 PM
Coptic Christian Night Mass in Egypt زيدوا المسيح تسبيح من ليلة الصلاة والرجوع إلى الله
At minute mark 3:20 and 4:03 it looks like it's at a famous Cave Church and is led by a priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnXJ7IWH3PU

Maybe someone recognizes the song?
It sounds very different than Orthodox styles I have heard.

I am not sure, is this like Middle Eastern Christian folk melodies with instrumental accompaniment, or is it very Western influenced:
Beautiful Arabic Christian Song @ Cave Church , Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEehbjbIAY

Disgusting.  But sadly, I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone posted a video of Copts singing Protestant songs in the "Oriental Orthodox Music" thread.  Protestant songs are not Oriental Orthodox music no matter who is leading the people in singing them, even if they have on a black galabeya.

Yes; he's no longer in the Church and these events no longer occur; he took advantage of the situation when we were transitioning between Popes.

Glory to God.  I fervently pray that all "pro-Protestant priests" - as rakovsky terms them - in the Coptic Orthodox Church either repent and return to Orthodoxy or are likewise censured.  The spread of this poison must stop.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Salpy on June 17, 2017, 11:42:15 PM
From the Armenians:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPnb6D8txFk
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: juliogb on August 22, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEUtdDMQV9o

I found some interesting armenian sacred chants.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: juliogb on August 22, 2017, 10:39:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBUoLiBpdY


I found this video about the armenian rite of the Eucharist. Looks quite similar too tridentine rite in some parts, do the armenians use wine and bread?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Aram on August 22, 2017, 10:53:51 PM
do the armenians use wine and bread?
Yes.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Porter ODoran on August 23, 2017, 12:47:06 AM
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
lyrics (http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/149)

So only Alpha60 calls him St. Justinian?
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Iconodule on August 23, 2017, 09:21:19 AM
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
lyrics (http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/149)

So only Alpha60 calls him St. Justinian?

He was a persecutor of the anti-Chalcedonian movement. His wife on the other hand was one of their greatest champions.
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Mor Ephrem on August 23, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
lyrics (http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/149)

So only Alpha60 calls him St. Justinian?

He was a persecutor of the anti-Chalcedonian movement. His wife on the other hand was one of their greatest champions.

Yeah, I have no problem with their womenfolk. 
Title: Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
Post by: Porter ODoran on August 23, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
English rendering of the Coptic hymn of "Omonogenes" by a chanter named Paul Mankarious, a hymn chanted in Good Friday services (this hymn is disputed to be either written by Emperor Justinian or St. Severus of Antioch)

https://soundcloud.com/anthony-mankarious/o-only-begotten-son-paul
lyrics (http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/149)

So only Alpha60 calls him St. Justinian?

He was a persecutor of the anti-Chalcedonian movement. His wife on the other hand was one of their greatest champions.

Yes I know. I'm really just tweaking Alpha again for calling him Saint.