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Title: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: dhinuus on February 26, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
In almost all protestant prayers, I noticed that it ends with "We ask these in the name of Jesus" or another variation of it. I am guessing the usage of this in prayer comes from  John 14:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A13&version=NKJV) . So I guess the usage is Biblical.

Till I went off to college, I had no exposure to any protestant prayers. I had only attended Orthodox services and eastern-rite (Syro-Malabar) Roman Catholic services till then. I have never heard prayers end that way in Church. Is this because I have not been paying enough attention ? Are there Orthodox prayers that end with "We ask these in the name of Jesus" or a variation of it ? If we don't have Orthodox prayers that end like that; is there a theological reason ?  

 
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: LBK on February 26, 2014, 11:24:51 PM
I can't recall any (EO) prayers with anything resembling that ending. It is also worth noting that the use of the name Jesus by itself in hymns and prayers is very rare. Overwhelmingly, Jesus Christ is used, as well as other terms specific to Him, such as God the Word.
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: ZealousZeal on February 27, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
Former Protestant- we always ended our prayers with "In Jesus' name we pray, Amen."  or just "In Jesus' name, Amen."

Interesting thread.
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: Nephi on February 27, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Former Protestant- we always ended our prayers with "In Jesus' name we pray, Amen."  or just "In Jesus' name, Amen."

Interesting thread.

Yep.

I remember a radio preacher once emphasizing that Christians are only to pray to the Father, and that Christians merely pray in Jesus' name (or ask things in his name, like the OP) who serves as a mediator. Most Protestants don't go that far in saying prayer is only to the Father and not the Son, but I think the reasoning is similar in affirming Jesus' role as mediator between us and the Father.

Which leads me to realize that much of my prayer experience growing up was oddly subordinationist or binitarian, with its distinct lack of the Holy Spirit or just asking to acquire it as if she's some sort of energy.

Anyway, to the OP - I'm not sure about OO, but I haven't seen it among EO that I can recall. I have, however, seen it among some Latin Catholics.
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: Severian on February 27, 2014, 02:52:36 AM
When praying the Lord's prayer in the Coptic Church we end it with "in Christ Jesus our Lord for thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen." Otherwise, we pray to each member of the Trinity individually or all three at the same time.
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: xOrthodox4Christx on February 27, 2014, 09:07:03 AM
Protestants elevate the name of Christ over that of the rest of the Godhead. Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses do to the Father, and Charismatics do in the name of the Holy Spirit.
Title: Re: "We ask these in the name of Jesus"
Post by: Antonious Nikolas on February 27, 2014, 09:12:41 AM
Protestants elevate the name of Christ over that of the rest of the Godhead. Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses do to the Father, and Charismatics do in the name of the Holy Spirit.

Well said.  I think it's best to begin and end our prayers with our traditional Trinitarian usage.