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Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Nigula Qian Zishi on March 10, 2005, 11:31:26 AM
The Church's understanding is that there is no "worst sin" and that everything can be forgiven and that we are called to forgive.

Actually there is sin that cannot be fogiven. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin according to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Schultz on March 10, 2005, 11:35:11 AM


Actually there is sin that cannot be fogiven. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin according to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Fr. Nikolai,

What does "blaspheming the Holy Spirit" mean?  I've always been taught that it had to do with a despondency that made one feel that no sin he or she committed was forgiveable, and, hence, did not allow the Holy Spirit to work in one's life and forgive.  Basically, an unwillingness to turn to God because of a feeling that not even God Himself could fix things, which is so incredibly unthinkable and, hence, a blasphemy.

Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Nigula Qian Zishi on March 10, 2005, 11:38:05 AM
Dear Schultz,

This despair and giving up all hope is indeed what many have taught this sin is. This line of thought somewhat ties in to the tradition that one who comitts suicide is not given a church funeral but rather only the graveside service.
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Nigula Qian Zishi on March 10, 2005, 11:39:39 AM
Perhaps the moderators could split this thread since we are no longer on-topic about Alan Keyes' lesbian daughter?
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Schultz on March 10, 2005, 11:48:06 AM
Fr. Nikolai,

Thanks. So would it be possible, then, to say that the Church teaches that no sin can be unforgiven so long as one turns to God for that forgiveness?
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Rho on March 10, 2005, 12:53:23 PM
The real question is:  Does anyone who commits blasphemy against the Holy Spirit turn to God for forgiveness?
Clearly not - God is a forgiving God.  That is why it is unforgivable - one who does it does not turn.
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Donna Rose on March 10, 2005, 01:55:25 PM
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The real question is:  Does anyone who commits blasphemy against the Holy Spirit turn to God for forgiveness?
Clearly not - God is a forgiving God.  That is why it is unforgivable - one who does it does not turn.

wow. this makes perfect sense. thanx for your reasoning, Rho :)
Title: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: Schultz on March 10, 2005, 02:01:20 PM
Yes, thanks, Rho.  That's exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: The Unforgivable Sin {split from Alan Keyes' Daughter Thread]
Post by: tweety234 on November 26, 2012, 11:32:27 PM
The real question is:  Does anyone who commits blasphemy against the Holy Spirit turn to God for forgiveness?
Clearly not - God is a forgiving God.  That is why it is unforgivable - one who does it does not turn.
why exactly do they not turn then? is it because they know that he will not forgive them? Or is it because they have lost all hope in him.? Please explain.