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Title: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 05, 2013, 11:40:45 PM
Looks like this is getting some buzz on FB:

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/563445_3977832418093_779948284_n.jpg)

So who decided this was even good wardrobe wise to perform at a concert?

And let me guess this guy sings bubblegum/dance/club music right.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on February 06, 2013, 12:01:49 AM
The only thing that the outfit is missing in a shotgun blast to the face. Then pure hesychia...

Also we can only hope this thread becomes about homosexuality, as the singer is gay LGBT.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: augustin717 on February 06, 2013, 12:13:06 AM
Glory to God
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 06, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
the singer is gay LGBT.
Is that facilitated through DID?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: augustin717 on February 06, 2013, 12:16:52 AM
Quote
the singer is gay LGBT.
that makes him exponentially more likely to wear the angelic habit.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 06, 2013, 12:16:56 AM
If you look close, it would appear he is wearing a Schemaglove (TM) as well.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 06, 2013, 12:17:29 AM
Looks like this is getting some buzz on FB:

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/563445_3977832418093_779948284_n.jpg)

So who decided this was even good wardrobe wise to perform at a concert?

And let me guess this guy sings bubblegum/dance/club music right.

Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 06, 2013, 12:28:48 AM
Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

In violation of the canons:

"As it has been, from time to time, the practice of un-learned and unstable men in the barbarian lands to imitate our manner of dress and superficial demeanour, we declare and proclaim to the Gentiles, as it has been handed down to us, that whosoever cops the swag of bishop, presbyter, deacon, or laymen, let such a one be handed over to the governor of that city, that he may be revealed publicly as a phony." - Canon VI, 2nd Synod of Portland

[COMMENTARY FROM THE STARBOARD: Skyler the Cypriot expands on the aformentioned canon, adding: "what is the son of vanity, that he is a poser for naught?"]
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 06, 2013, 12:31:58 AM
Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

In violation of the canons:

"As it has been, from time to time, the practice of un-learned and unstable men in the barbarian lands to imitate our manner of dress and superficial demeanour, we declare and proclaim to the Gentiles, as it has been handed down to us, that whosoever cops the style of bishop, presbyter, deacon, or laymen, let such a one be handed over to the governor of that city, that he may be revealed publicly as a phony." - Canon VI, 2nd Synod of Portland

[COMMENTARY FROM THE STARBOARD: Skyler the Cypriot expands on the aformentioned canon, adding: "what is the son of vanity, that he is a poser for naught?"]

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 06, 2013, 12:56:53 AM
Looks like this is getting some buzz on FB:

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/563445_3977832418093_779948284_n.jpg)

So who decided this was even good wardrobe wise to perform at a concert?

And let me guess this guy sings bubblegum/dance/club music right.

Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

The designer can then share in the punishment of the wearer.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: yeshuaisiam on February 06, 2013, 01:20:44 AM
Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

In violation of the canons:

"As it has been, from time to time, the practice of un-learned and unstable men in the barbarian lands to imitate our manner of dress and superficial demeanour, we declare and proclaim to the Gentiles, as it has been handed down to us, that whosoever cops the style of bishop, presbyter, deacon, or laymen, let such a one be handed over to the governor of that city, that he may be revealed publicly as a phony." - Canon VI, 2nd Synod of Portland

[COMMENTARY FROM THE STARBOARD: Skyler the Cypriot expands on the aformentioned canon, adding: "what is the son of vanity, that he is a poser for naught?"]

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hahahaha   nice....
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on February 06, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
Quote
the singer is gay LGBT.
that makes him exponentially more likely to wear the angelic habit.

Who wouldn't wanna live with a buncha dudes?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: orthonorm on February 06, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Quote
the singer is gay LGBT.
that makes him exponentially more likely to wear the angelic habit.

Who wouldn't wanna live with a buncha dudes?

What would your avatar say to this Adam?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LizaSymonenko on February 06, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
Quote
the singer is gay LGBT.
that makes him exponentially more likely to wear the angelic habit.

Who wouldn't wanna live with a buncha dudes?

What would your avatar say to this Adam?

Not much.

....he would pray for him.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: vamrat on February 06, 2013, 06:33:27 PM
Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

In violation of the canons:

"As it has been, from time to time, the practice of un-learned and unstable men in the barbarian lands to imitate our manner of dress and superficial demeanour, we declare and proclaim to the Gentiles, as it has been handed down to us, that whosoever cops the swag of bishop, presbyter, deacon, or laymen, let such a one be handed over to the governor of that city, that he may be revealed publicly as a phony." - Canon VI, 2nd Synod of Portland

[COMMENTARY FROM THE STARBOARD: Skyler the Cypriot expands on the aformentioned canon, adding: "what is the son of vanity, that he is a poser for naught?"]

This alone makes the actions of that talentless dweeb worthwhile.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: arimethea on February 06, 2013, 07:27:38 PM
Can anyone translate what this outfit says?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Jetavan on February 06, 2013, 08:59:04 PM
 Après moi, le déluge.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: stavros_388 on February 06, 2013, 10:27:50 PM
Strictly speaking, the outfit is not that of a monastic schema, though it borrows much of its imagery. Ghastly bad taste, at the very least.  :P

In violation of the canons:

"As it has been, from time to time, the practice of un-learned and unstable men in the barbarian lands to imitate our manner of dress and superficial demeanour, we declare and proclaim to the Gentiles, as it has been handed down to us, that whosoever cops the swag of bishop, presbyter, deacon, or laymen, let such a one be handed over to the governor of that city, that he may be revealed publicly as a phony." - Canon VI, 2nd Synod of Portland

[COMMENTARY FROM THE STARBOARD: Skyler the Cypriot expands on the aformentioned canon, adding: "what is the son of vanity, that he is a poser for naught?"]

This alone makes the actions of that talentless dweeb worthwhile.

Not a fan, myself, but talentless he is not. He even stepped into Freddie Mercury's shoes and fronted Queen for a tour, I believe. The guy's a ridiculously good singer (even though his songs kind of suck).
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on February 07, 2013, 09:56:26 PM
What would your avatar say to this Adam?

Well, he's got a great staff to fwack him with.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 08, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
Can anyone translate what this outfit says?

It's definitely not from scripture or anything church-related. The language is modern Russian, not Church Slavonic, and what is written could be a poem or song lyrics.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 09, 2013, 03:24:42 AM
Let he who is without sin...:

(http://d310a9hpolx59w.cloudfront.net/product_photos/561880/RevSweatshirt_20I_large.jpg)

(And no, Achronos, you can't wear it to liturgy)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 03:52:44 AM
(And no, Achronos, you can't wear it to liturgy)
I only role play in those 455AD robes anyway.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 09, 2013, 04:32:58 AM
Let he who is without sin...:

(http://d310a9hpolx59w.cloudfront.net/product_photos/561880/RevSweatshirt_20I_large.jpg)


Hipster. How pathetic.  ::)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: JamesR on February 09, 2013, 04:36:15 AM
Okay, if I were to wear that hoodie, my parents would really become 100% convinced that I went off the deep end and become some weirdo radical extremist due to Orthodoxy.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Asteriktos on February 09, 2013, 04:38:15 AM
I do not know who Adam Lambert is.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: JamesR on February 09, 2013, 04:42:26 AM
I do not know who Adam Lambert is.

I think he's some guy who won American Idol back in like 2008 and has spawned a couple of singles every here and there.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: biro on February 09, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
I do not know who Adam Lambert is.

I think he's some guy who won American Idol back in like 2008 and has spawned a couple of singles every here and there.

Yep.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: AustralianDiaspora on February 09, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
OMG I think both pictures are amazing i'm so sorry
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
OMG I think both pictures are amazing i'm so sorry
wat
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: AustralianDiaspora on February 09, 2013, 12:11:35 PM
OMG I think both pictures are amazing i'm so sorry
wat
THEY'RE SO PUNKKKKK
then again I also wanted to buy a jumper that said I love Greek Orthodox Girls off amazon but then decided against it cos if anyone from my Parish ever saw me in it I would die seeing as how i'm a girl myself
No really there is something aesthetically pleasing about this. And Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 09, 2013, 12:32:21 PM
Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.

(http://d1nr5wevwcuzuv.cloudfront.net/product_photos/561889/RSkull_20I_large.jpg)

(http://dpegb9ebondhq.cloudfront.net/product_photos/561888/Rskull_20back_20I_original.jpg)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Jetavan on February 09, 2013, 01:02:08 PM
Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.

(http://d1nr5wevwcuzuv.cloudfront.net/product_photos/561889/RSkull_20I_large.jpg)
Reminds me of Mormon theology.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Cyrillic on February 09, 2013, 01:24:36 PM
Reminds me of Roman epigrams.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Alpo on February 09, 2013, 01:25:59 PM
Reminds me of Roman epigrams.

You, sir, are even more geek than I am. I thought it wasn't possible.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LakaYaRabb on February 09, 2013, 01:45:56 PM
This action by Adam Lambert makes me wonder if it is not a political statement. I found a video on youtube of him singing Madonna's Ray of Light. He wore this "mockery" outfit during this concert, or at least while singing this song at the concert. The script on the outfit appears to have some Slavonic on it. The symbols seems to be a mis-mash of various things. Whoever designed it had some knowledge of the monastic schema.

Could it be a statement against the Church of Russia, or Russia? It has been said here that Adam Lambert is homosexual. Perhaps this is a kind of protest (like Madonna speaking out) against the recent laws in Russia concerning homosexuality?

For me, the Monastic schema has an other-wordliness. Its is quite visually striking. Personally, it is strange to see such a thing that Adam Lambert is wearing. It does seem a "mockery". Truly, it is, I believe though, just an act of ignorance, no matter the reason he wore it or the reason the designer designed it. I pray for those who are involved in its existence. I'm not personally outraged though. If Adam Lambert and the designer had ever spent time  with a Holy elder or Holy Eldress of the Greatschema, I doubt that such a thing would have been designed by the designer or worn by Adam Lambert.

The hoodies and shirts designed by Death to the World, I think they have their place. I'm not going to beat down on them. They aren't for everyone, but for some, I think they can be a step, even though very small.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: augustin717 on February 09, 2013, 03:54:14 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Peacemaker on February 09, 2013, 04:20:52 PM
OMG I think both pictures are amazing i'm so sorry
wat
THEY'RE SO PUNKKKKK
then again I also wanted to buy a jumper that said I love Greek Orthodox Girls off amazon but then decided against it cos if anyone from my Parish ever saw me in it I would die seeing as how i'm a girl myself
No really there is something aesthetically pleasing about this. And Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.

(http://www.idakoos.com/images/makeimage.aspx?prd=TC1BN0000&nlg=024840909090886WHRE00&px=170&py=106&tn=160&tl=160&j=0&z=360&idm=A)
I'd wear it
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: ialmisry on February 09, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Quote
the singer is gay LGBT.
that makes him exponentially more likely to wear the angelic habit.
you take statistics on that, or you just showing your prejudice off?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
And Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.
LOL yeah it is. Death to the world but we are gonna steal ideas from the world
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Romaios on February 09, 2013, 04:33:03 PM
They are so corny they are hilarious.

(http://4chandata.org/images/threads/246804_democritus_1628_Brugghen.jpg)

Δημόκριτος ο Γελασίνος
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: dzheremi on February 09, 2013, 04:38:50 PM
What a world. It's like Spaceballs come to life. Orthodoxy the coffee mug (http://www.cafepress.com/+large_mug_with_orthodox_cross,506127430?cmp=knc-pla-506127430&utm_term=506127430&utm_medium=cpc%26utm_cp_signal%3d74&pid=3607873&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sem_product_feed)! Orthodoxy the t-shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/mf/33265484/4niceagif_tshirt)! Orthodoxy the mouse pad (http://www.cafepress.com/+orthodox_schema_cross_mousepad,123637730?cmp=knc-pla-123637730&utm_term=123637730&utm_medium=cpc%26utm_cp_signal%3d18&pid=3607873&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=sem_product_feed)!

Everything but Orthodoxy, the faith. ::) I dunno...maybe I'll just start buying stuff instead of going to liturgy, praying, or fasting.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 04:40:26 PM
That's the American way Jeremy!

Lol
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Deacon Lance on February 09, 2013, 04:40:42 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 04:44:08 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Aren't they a group of former punk rockers too?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Deacon Lance on February 09, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Aren't they a group of former punk rockers too?

Some of the monks were which is why they strated this outreach.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Peacemaker on February 09, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Aren't they a group of former punk rockers too?

Death to the World was started by monks and nuns from the St Herman of Alaska Monastery in Platina, California, as a medium of evangelism to teens involved in the punk subculture by monastics who were ex-punks. A founding member was Justin Marler who, soon after recording Volume One with seminal doom metal band Sleep in 1991, left for seven years of monastic life while Sleep went on to become metal icons.

Originally, the monastics planned to submit an article about Fr. Seraphim Rose to the magazine Maximum RocknRoll. They later decided to try to place an ad for their monastery, but were only rudely rejected, being told that the magazine "only [ran] ads for music and zines". This inspired them to begin a zine.

The first issue was printed in the December of ’94 featuring a monk holding a skull on cover. The hand-drawn bold letters across the top read “DEATH TO THE WORLD, The Last True Rebellion” and the back cover held the caption: “they hated me without a cause.” ... The first issue, decorated with ancient icons and lives of martyrs inside, was advertised in Maximum RocknRoll and brought letters from all around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_World)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: dzheremi on February 09, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
I dread the day when the Coptic Orthodox Church becomes hip enough to engage in something that silly. I mean, I guess there are already Pope Shenouda III memorial t-shirts (http://www.agape-bookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=10100), but at least he isn't presented as a hip, counter-cultural figure.

The trouble with marketing your faith within a narrowly-defined, mostly youth-oriented subculture is that youth generally grow up and leave (and people who aren't youth anymore usually don't respond to such things). I'm glad I just have a closet full of old records gathering dust rather than a closet full of...God stuff.

I would think that Orthodoxy would be the last thing in the world that would need a gimmick or a hook, but what do I know. If the t-shirts get the kids interested, then...good?  :-\
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: orthonorm on February 09, 2013, 05:01:07 PM
I dread the day when the Coptic Orthodox Church becomes hip enough to engage in something that silly. I mean, I guess there are already Pope Shenouda III memorial t-shirts (http://www.agape-bookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=10100), but at least he isn't presented as a hip, counter-cultural figure.

The trouble with marketing your faith within a narrowly-defined, mostly youth-oriented subculture is that youth generally grow up and leave (and people who aren't youth anymore usually don't respond to such things). I'm glad I just have a closet full of old records gathering dust rather than a closet full of...God stuff.

I would think that Orthodoxy would be the last thing in the world that would need a gimmick or a hook, but what do I know. If the t-shirts get the kids interested, then...good?  :-\

God knows Jesus didn't use any populist rhetoric and actions to win followers . . . oh wait . . .
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 05:06:58 PM
Jeremy you don't think Hyperdox Herman shirts would sell?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: dzheremi on February 09, 2013, 05:08:40 PM
The new populist Bible?

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxUkOe30IIXRbLXf7V3hr2lEBkSHV1Ml3YKpfzYe9XdevDCp-gpg)

Quote from: The Gospel According to our Teacher St. Ioannis Lydonis
And His disciples came unto Him, despairing of the oppression at the hands of the Romans. And He said to them, "Do not let your hearts be troubled. I'm totally counterculture, and I mean it, maaaaaaaaaaan."
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: JamesR on February 09, 2013, 05:20:40 PM
There are some Hyperdox Hermans who actually buy this stuff; don't be surprised. Whatever can be marketed on the face of a coffee mug or T-shirt will in fact be marketed on the face of a coffee mug or T-shirt if there is a market of buyers to exploit; in this case, the Hyperdox Herman converts to Orthodoxy. I know because I ordered an Orthodox iPhone case when I first converted, but the order messed up, took my money and I never got the case. It's like delegates from a cosmetic company going into the Amazon on a canoe to sell makeup to natives.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: orthonorm on February 09, 2013, 05:24:02 PM
It's like delegates from a cosmetic company going into the Amazon on a canoe to sell makeup to natives.

I actually heard an audio documentary on this story about the Avon woman who did this, like 15 years ago, and I still couldn't understand why someone would have to use a canoe to access amazon.com when reading this.

I thought perhaps canoe was the new mobile device.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LakaYaRabb on February 09, 2013, 06:58:11 PM
I dread the day when the Coptic Orthodox Church becomes hip enough to engage in something that silly. I mean, I guess there are already Pope Shenouda III memorial t-shirts (http://www.agape-bookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=10100), but at least he isn't presented as a hip, counter-cultural figure.

The trouble with marketing your faith within a narrowly-defined, mostly youth-oriented subculture is that youth generally grow up and leave (and people who aren't youth anymore usually don't respond to such things). I'm glad I just have a closet full of old records gathering dust rather than a closet full of...God stuff.

I would think that Orthodoxy would be the last thing in the world that would need a gimmick or a hook, but what do I know. If the t-shirts get the kids interested, then...good?  :-\

A gimmick is a gimmick.
http://www.holypimoly.com/ (http://www.holypimoly.com/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDomBihevM


Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: ialmisry on February 09, 2013, 07:44:56 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Aren't they a group of former punk rockers too?

Death to the World was started by monks and nuns from the St Herman of Alaska Monastery in Platina, California, as a medium of evangelism to teens involved in the punk subculture by monastics who were ex-punks. A founding member was Justin Marler who, soon after recording Volume One with seminal doom metal band Sleep in 1991, left for seven years of monastic life while Sleep went on to become metal icons.

Originally, the monastics planned to submit an article about Fr. Seraphim Rose to the magazine Maximum RocknRoll. They later decided to try to place an ad for their monastery, but were only rudely rejected, being told that the magazine "only [ran] ads for music and zines". This inspired them to begin a zine.

The first issue was printed in the December of ’94 featuring a monk holding a skull on cover. The hand-drawn bold letters across the top read “DEATH TO THE WORLD, The Last True Rebellion” and the back cover held the caption: “they hated me without a cause.” ... The first issue, decorated with ancient icons and lives of martyrs inside, was advertised in Maximum RocknRoll and brought letters from all around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_World)
They used to be based in Chicago, or had a branch here in Wicker Park.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 09, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
A gimmick is a gimmick.
http://www.holypimoly.com/ (http://www.holypimoly.com/)

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote
visit the Coptic Orthodox Chrisitian Center!
Quote
Gregorian Productions Inc. 2008
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: dzheremi on February 09, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
I dread the day when the Coptic Orthodox Church becomes hip enough to engage in something that silly. I mean, I guess there are already Pope Shenouda III memorial t-shirts (http://www.agape-bookstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=10100), but at least he isn't presented as a hip, counter-cultural figure.

The trouble with marketing your faith within a narrowly-defined, mostly youth-oriented subculture is that youth generally grow up and leave (and people who aren't youth anymore usually don't respond to such things). I'm glad I just have a closet full of old records gathering dust rather than a closet full of...God stuff.

I would think that Orthodoxy would be the last thing in the world that would need a gimmick or a hook, but what do I know. If the t-shirts get the kids interested, then...good?  :-\

A gimmick is a gimmick.
http://www.holypimoly.com/ (http://www.holypimoly.com/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDomBihevM

Hahaha. Wow. I stand corrected?  ??? Not quite what I had in mind when I wrote "hip" (then again, as song the song asks, what is hip? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFxj59Fa9o)), but you are indeed right...a gimmick is a gimmick. I guess this is better than that "Bronie" thing, at least.

Achronos: What's funny about "Gregorian Productions"?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: username! on February 09, 2013, 09:57:14 PM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 09, 2013, 10:05:46 PM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?

If the costume designer was in any way Orthodox, he oughta be locked in a room full of babushki. They'd soon sort him out.

The designer is neither Orthodox nor Russian, as far as I've been able to gather.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: augustin717 on February 09, 2013, 10:34:26 PM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?

If the costume designer was in any way Orthodox, he oughta be locked in a room full of babushki. They'd soon sort him out.

The designer is neither Orthodox nor Russian, as far as I've been able to gather.
Maybe he his but just into he overly pious stuff
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Tikhon.of.Colorado on February 09, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
I dug this up on my hard drive.  I've seen other artists with this type of thing on.  Maybe overly zealous and stuffy Trevor is resurfacing, but this makes me sick.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/62309_10200351337925419_578572277_n.jpg)

Have they no respect?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Nephi on February 09, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
Celebrities wearing Orthodox-related gear? Might as well contribute this. ;)

(http://healthybodymindmarriage.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kristen-stewart-chotki.jpg?w=500)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 10, 2013, 12:17:20 AM
Celebrities wearing Orthodox-related gear? Might as well contribute this. ;)

(http://healthybodymindmarriage.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kristen-stewart-chotki.jpg?w=500)

Chotki, whether as a rope, or as a bracelet, should never be a "fashion accessory". Ideally, they should be worn under one's clothing, unless one is a monastic or a bishop. Even for them, their prayer ropes are usually looped around their belt, and are barely visible against the black of their robes.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Nephi on February 10, 2013, 12:31:47 AM
Chotki, whether as a rope, or as a bracelet, should never be a "fashion accessory". Ideally, they should be worn under one's clothing, unless one is a monastic or a bishop. Even for them, their prayer ropes are usually looped around their belt, and are barely visible against the black of their robes.

Then I'm sure you'll enjoy this article on "5 Fun Ways to Use a Chotki (http://www.squidoo.com/5-fun-ways-to-use-a-chotki)."

And apparently 33Knots (http://www.prayer-bracelet.com/) likes to market chotki as fashion accessories.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 10, 2013, 12:49:43 AM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?

If the costume designer was in any way Orthodox, he oughta be locked in a room full of babushki. They'd soon sort him out.

The designer is neither Orthodox nor Russian, as far as I've been able to gather.

Babushki with sticks, LBK.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 10, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?

If the costume designer was in any way Orthodox, he oughta be locked in a room full of babushki. They'd soon sort him out.

The designer is neither Orthodox nor Russian, as far as I've been able to gather.
Maybe he his but just into he overly pious stuff

In an impious way.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 10, 2013, 01:02:52 AM
You know who also used a chotki?

(http://i.imgur.com/fQCmaLZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: JamesR on February 10, 2013, 01:19:46 AM
Anne V. wears a chotki; I find it ironic seeing how she takes erotic photos while wearing one.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Maria on February 10, 2013, 01:30:26 AM
Okay, if I were to wear that hoodie, my parents would really become 100% convinced that I went off the deep end and become some weirdo radical extremist due to Orthodoxy.

Indeed! You might end up in some psy ward too.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 10, 2013, 01:34:31 AM
Okay, if I were to wear that hoodie, my parents would really become 100% convinced that I went off the deep end and become some weirdo radical extremist due to Orthodoxy.

Indeed! You might end up in some psy ward too.
Well atleast he can use a 300 knot chotki all day.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Antonis on February 10, 2013, 02:22:05 AM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Not run by them anymore, I don't believe. Not for quite a while. It's currently run by Hipsterdox.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 10, 2013, 05:39:27 AM
You know who also used a chotki?

(http://i.imgur.com/fQCmaLZ.jpg)

Your point?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Cyrillic on February 10, 2013, 05:44:48 AM
Is this the new variant of Hyperdox Herman? Schemamonk Lambert?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: LBK on February 10, 2013, 05:52:35 AM
Has anyone thought maybe he has a russian costume designer?

If the costume designer was in any way Orthodox, he oughta be locked in a room full of babushki. They'd soon sort him out.

The designer is neither Orthodox nor Russian, as far as I've been able to gather.

Babushki with sticks, LBK.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Though a few of the babushki and yiayies I know wouldn't need sticks. Their words and their fearlessness are their weapons. I've seen them reduce six-foot-three galoots to a quivering, teary mess just through their sheer force of moral integrity.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: AustralianDiaspora on February 10, 2013, 07:29:27 AM
This thread makes me so happy I literally cannot. I want all the things including Kristen Stewart

And Death to the World is hilarious you gotta admit.
LOL yeah it is. Death to the world but we are gonna steal ideas from the world
Reject consumerism! Buy this T shirt!
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Shiny on February 10, 2013, 09:18:33 AM
Your point?

That KStew having a chotki isn't as terrible.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Tikhon.of.Colorado on February 10, 2013, 10:55:00 AM
Okay, if I were to wear that hoodie, my parents would really become 100% convinced that I went off the deep end and become some weirdo radical extremist due to Orthodoxy.

Indeed! You might end up in some psy ward too.
Well atleast he can use a 300 knot chotki all day.
Stop, Achronos, you're making memories of my convertitis come back to me.  :-[  :laugh:
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Deacon Lance on February 10, 2013, 01:16:11 PM
If hesychia sells, then why not? In regards to 'death to the World". They are so corny they are hilarious. Although I doubt they mean that.

It is an actual Orthodox ministry run by the St Herman of Alaska Brotherhood of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
http://deathtotheworld.com/
Not run by them anymore, I don't believe. Not for quite a while. It's currently run by Hipsterdox.

The site states they restarted with the blessing of Abbot Gerasim and Father Damascene.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 10, 2013, 05:48:33 PM
God knows Jesus didn't use any populist rhetoric and actions to win followers . . . oh wait . . .
Think we could get the "Jesus didn't Tap" guys to produce a "Jesus didn't LARP" shirt?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Tallitot on February 10, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
Anne V. wears a chotki; I find it ironic seeing how she takes erotic photos while wearing one.
Didn't Madonna start the wearing rosaries as jewlery fad in the 80's?
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: JamesR on February 10, 2013, 06:29:14 PM
Anne V. wears a chotki; I find it ironic seeing how she takes erotic photos while wearing one.
Didn't Madonna start the wearing rosaries as jewlery fad in the 80's?

Yeah, that's not too surprising either. Hispanic gangs wear them in California as a fashion statement as well.
Title: Re: Adam Lambert (who?) wore an outfit of a schemamonk
Post by: Romaios on February 10, 2013, 07:11:39 PM
Anne V. wears a chotki; I find it ironic seeing how she takes erotic photos while wearing one.
Didn't Madonna start the wearing rosaries as jewlery fad in the 80's?

Hasn't she put on tallit and tefillin yet?