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Title: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Nikolaostheservant on October 03, 2012, 11:15:54 PM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."

Title: Re: Are they serious?!
Post by: Shanghaiski on October 03, 2012, 11:18:52 PM
I remember the good old days when people simoniacs suddenly died for their presumption.
Title: Re: Are they serious?!
Post by: Timon on October 03, 2012, 11:19:19 PM
lol

i did one of these online a long time ago.  it was free.  and i just did it with a couple of friends to be funny.  surly it wasnt actually legit, but im supposedly allowed to officiate weddings... ha!  never have though.  and never will.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: orthonorm on October 03, 2012, 11:20:09 PM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."



*Starts new competing website charging only $49.99*
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Nikolaostheservant on October 03, 2012, 11:24:05 PM
For a second i thought of doing it just as a joke, so i can say I'm a pastor. But then i thought probably not a good idea~there is probably some spiritual repercussions.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Shiny on October 03, 2012, 11:24:50 PM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."



*Starts new competing website charging only $49.99*
But required deposit fee of $49.99 additional to reserve your very own bible tabs!
Title: Re: Are they serious?!
Post by: Nikolaostheservant on October 03, 2012, 11:25:33 PM
lol

i did one of these online a long time ago.  it was free.  and i just did it with a couple of friends to be funny.  surly it wasnt actually legit, but im supposedly allowed to officiate weddings... ha!  never have though.  and never will.

Free....wow!

but did you get the id??
Title: Re: Are they serious?!
Post by: Timon on October 03, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
lol

i did one of these online a long time ago.  it was free.  and i just did it with a couple of friends to be funny.  surly it wasnt actually legit, but im supposedly allowed to officiate weddings... ha!  never have though.  and never will.

Free....wow!

but did you get the id??

it seems like it came with a certificate you could print out. quite honestly, i forgot i even did it a few days later. havent really thought much about it since. i certainly dont regard it as anything serious. it would be funny if i performed one of my buddy's wedding or something... ha!
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: JamesR on October 03, 2012, 11:36:46 PM
Wow really? I'll bet that for $200 I could start my own denomination as one of the countless American Protestant 'prophets'.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Shiny on October 03, 2012, 11:42:18 PM
Wow really? I'll bet that for $200 I could start my own denomination as one of the countless American Protestant 'prophets'.
And at $5000 you could predict the Rapture on a billboard.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 03, 2012, 11:55:01 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

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stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: LBK on October 04, 2012, 12:25:12 AM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."



How old are you, Nikolaos? Us old crocks can smell a scam as obvious as this ten miles away.  ;)
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: OrthoNoob on October 04, 2012, 02:21:29 AM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."



Um...
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Kerdy on October 04, 2012, 06:15:06 AM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."


The cost has gone up.  It used to be $25.00.  It's legit.  I have made reference to this several times.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Kerdy on October 04, 2012, 06:17:01 AM
Wow really? I'll bet that for $200 I could start my own denomination as one of the countless American Protestant 'prophets'.
You can do that for free.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Jonathan on October 04, 2012, 08:57:56 AM
I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."

Anybody can cheaply become an "ordained minster" from some fake group if they just want to be able to do an essentially secular wedding and be legally allowed to do it and register it with the state...

But I wouldn't say that a Protestant pastor you meet on the street probably did something like this.

I used to be Protestant, and at every church I saw, the senior pastor had at least an M.Div, the assistant pastor usually did, and the youth pastors had at least associate degrees (the 2 year program you mentioned), or more likely an MTM (5 yr min counting undergrad). Many senior pastors eventually got D.Min's.

An M.Div is a 3 year masters program (i.e. you have to do a 3-4 year bachelor's first) that cannot be done by distanc-ed (a north american requirement for an M.Div to be accredited is that it can't be distance ed).

So you can go get ordained for free if you want, but, you won't get a job as a pastor that way, you'll just be able to marry your friends.

To get a job as a pastor, you have to be hired by a church (i.e. a local congregation, normally there is nothing like a bishop involved, just the local congregation hires someone for the job...  with some groups like Lutherans who do have bishops, I don't know how hiring works there), and they aren't going to hire someone who doesn't have an M.Div.

It varies from denomination to denomination how "ordination" works. At the Baptist divinity school here, once you get an M.Div, I think you're recommended to be ordained by the local baptist association, but that doesn't make you a pastor, it's just a job requirement you get, then you actually have to get a job with a church to be a pastor.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Nikolaostheservant on October 04, 2012, 01:16:22 PM
I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."

Anybody can cheaply become an "ordained minster" from some fake group if they just want to be able to do an essentially secular wedding and be legally allowed to do it and register it with the state...

But I wouldn't say that a Protestant pastor you meet on the street probably did something like this.

I used to be Protestant, and at every church I saw, the senior pastor had at least an M.Div, the assistant pastor usually did, and the youth pastors had at least associate degrees (the 2 year program you mentioned), or more likely an MTM (5 yr min counting undergrad). Many senior pastors eventually got D.Min's.

An M.Div is a 3 year masters program (i.e. you have to do a 3-4 year bachelor's first) that cannot be done by distanc-ed (a north american requirement for an M.Div to be accredited is that it can't be distance ed).

So you can go get ordained for free if you want, but, you won't get a job as a pastor that way, you'll just be able to marry your friends.

To get a job as a pastor, you have to be hired by a church (i.e. a local congregation, normally there is nothing like a bishop involved, just the local congregation hires someone for the job...  with some groups like Lutherans who do have bishops, I don't know how hiring works there), and they aren't going to hire someone who doesn't have an M.Div.

It varies from denomination to denomination how "ordination" works. At the Baptist divinity school here, once you get an M.Div, I think you're recommended to be ordained by the local baptist association, but that doesn't make you a pastor, it's just a job requirement you get, then you actually have to get a job with a church to be a pastor.

Job smob----i can start my own church!
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Nikolaostheservant on October 04, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
https://www.ministerregistration.org/register.html

I clicked on this link for fun/curiosity. I expected it to at least be a six month course.
NOTHING --- no requirements or study, other then send them $99 bucks!
And agree to three things:
1)I believe in one true God.
2)I accept Jesus Christ.
3)I confess I'm a sinner and repent.

Then send $99.00 and you are ordained (in all 50 states) a minister - pastor. And you can do wedding, baptisms, open up a church.

BUT wait, there's more, for $22.95 you get a free ID stating you are an ordained pastor.

I have met a lot of people introduced to me as pastor. and never really considered them as anything special or priestly, cause i thought they prob got it via on line course. I knew someone who was doing it on line but it was a legitish 2 year course.

From now on when i meet someone and they tell me they are a pastor or minister I'm asking "oh nice to meet you, what seminary did you go to."



How old are you, Nikolaos? Us old crocks can smell a scam as obvious as this ten miles away.  ;)

Yea, always wanted to get a lic plate"TRSTNO1"...Xfiles line, the tv show.
thats always been my moto, trust no one, especially when $$ in involved!
I feel like im 80yr, i look like im 65yr, but im actually 47yr. Bummer hugh.
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: sprtslvr1973 on October 25, 2012, 09:40:30 PM
I sometimes wonder if clergy really need a several year degree to preach a homily and serve Communion
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Ashman618 on October 25, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
I sometimes wonder if clergy really need a several year degree to preach a homily and serve Communion

Yes they certainly do the first members of the clergy had a Masters degree in advanced fishing tactics :)
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 25, 2012, 10:06:15 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I sometimes wonder if clergy really need a several year degree to preach a homily and serve Communion
in advanced fishing tactics :)

(http://i.imgur.com/eH2jV.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xAH8loSGYn8/SpYI4Q8H5MI/AAAAAAAABl0/D1mroTZkuZQ/S1600-R/Yellow+Comic+Logo.jpg)

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Asteriktos on October 25, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
Many people of my generation have also been trained in advanced fishing tactics using this realistic simulation:

(http://www.scottdecker.com/video_games/atari_2600_fishing_derby_screen_2.gif)
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: JamesRottnek on October 25, 2012, 10:21:04 PM
Many people of my generation have also been trained in advanced fishing tactics using this realistic simulation:

(http://www.scottdecker.com/video_games/atari_2600_fishing_derby_screen_2.gif)

I never got that training.  I am, however, highly trained in defending America from illegal aliens. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=437Ld_rKM2s)
Title: Re: Are they serious? it it for real!
Post by: Happy Lutheran on October 26, 2012, 04:23:11 PM
stay blessed,
habte selassie

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