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Title: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 23, 2012, 11:32:37 PM
There are several disparate threads about metal and rock on the forum, but they're generally of the "Is it bad?" variety, or dealing with a very specific situation. I've been using the Orthodox Folk/Death Metal thread as a sort of general catch-all place to post, but Alveus would rather have that thread die, so I figured I'd start a new one, this one devoted to general discussion (info about what bands you're discovering, what new album you hate, why you think music is dead, etc.) If you want to debate whether rock/metal is evil, please use one of the twenty thousand other threads...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 25, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
The new album of As I Lay Dying is currently streaming for free at AOL Music (http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/1)...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: NicholasMyra on September 25, 2012, 02:16:20 AM
Asteriktos, you strike me as a fellow who listened to Iced Earth back in the day.

Have you repented?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 25, 2012, 04:12:48 AM
Lol, I just bought my first Iced Earth album a couple weeks ago. Found it in a used CD store and recognized the name, so I gave it a shot. Didn't much like it.  :police:
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 26, 2012, 03:15:11 AM
Checking out their Wiki page, looks like they've had some pretty extensive lineup changes lately. Hate to say it, but I'm afraid they might have lost their touch. But hey, I still haven't heard all of I Am, so I can't judge just yet.

I see what you mean (at wiki), I was unware. So now they're like Underoath and don't have any founding members left. Huh.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on September 27, 2012, 01:33:44 AM
Sentenced - We are but Falling Leaves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rX6_Te5dis)

This song seems to never get old or boring.

EDIT: They started as a Melodic Death Metal band but transformed into this. This is from their last album before they broke up.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on September 27, 2012, 01:52:16 AM
Sorry, Alpo. This is the real Sentenced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8Xs8ydvE0&feature=relmfu

Finland was truly the Mecca of old-school death metal in the early 90's: Abhorrence, Demilich, Depravity, (early) Amorphis, Disgrace, Convulse, Demigod, Purtenance, Adramelech, Rippikoulu, Funebre, etc. The list is endless. That's without even mentioning Finland's stellar black metal scene (Beherit, Archgoat, etc.). I also really enjoyed a Christian metal band from Finland quite a bit called Mordecai. They put out a really solid release "Through the Shadows, Towards the Dawn" many moons ago. I loved that in high school.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on September 27, 2012, 02:18:03 AM
Sorry, Alpo. This is the real Sentenced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8Xs8ydvE0&feature=relmfu

Heretic!

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Finland was truly the Mecca of old-school death metal in the early 90's: Abhorrence, Demilich, Depravity, (early) Amorphis, Disgrace, Convulse, Demigod, Purtenance, Adramelech, Rippikoulu, Funebre, etc. The list is endless. That's without even mentioning Finland's stellar black metal scene (Beherit, Archgoat, etc.). I also really enjoyed a Christian metal band from Finland quite a bit called Mordecai. They put out a really solid release "Through the Shadows, Towards the Dawn" many moons ago. I loved that in high school.

Lol, I'm a Finn and I've listened to Metal all the way since high school and I still haven't heard heard of most of the bands you mentioned. But I wasn't that much into Death Metal but to wimpy Melodic Black Metal which seemed to be fashionable when I was younger. Rippikoulu has such a brilliant name though that I must get to know them.

I remember loving that Mordecai's EP. I don't know how old I was when I bought their split album Immortal Souls which contained latters Divine Wintertime. Mordecai and Immortal Souls were one of the few decent Christian Metal bands I could find in those days. Good times.

Btw, nice to see you around. I haven't noticed you posting for a while.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 27, 2012, 05:23:02 PM
Got the new Becoming the Archetype album today, and have listened to it now. Sort of unsure what to think. My first impressions are not generally positive... sort of middle of the road. The only song I truly dislike is The Planet Maker (http://youtu.be/bwcgWT5Fs2Y), but as for the rest... I don't know. About 2-3 songs into the album I was thinking something along the lines of "Ok, I don't love this, but it might grow on me". By the time it got to the blah instrumental that was starting to change, and by the end... well, like I said, not generally positive. Who knows, maybe I'll listen to it another half dozen times and find some stuff I like though. I've been known to change my mind.  :angel:
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: neon_knights on September 27, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Asteriktos, you strike me as a fellow who listened to Iced Earth back in the day.

Have you repented?

Stop...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Shiny on September 27, 2012, 06:17:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cEj4e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yTUhM.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 28, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
Also received the new As I Lay Dying disc yesterday. Much more interesting (to me) than the BtA, though it doesn't quite match my favorite by them, An Ocean Between Us.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 29, 2012, 12:04:03 AM


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Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: neon_knights on September 29, 2012, 12:17:56 AM
I've been trying to get into Burzum lately, but I just can't digest black metal. Burzum is more bearable than most other BM I've heard, but still...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on September 29, 2012, 12:23:19 AM
I've been trying to get into Burzum lately, but I just can't digest black metal. Burzum is more bearable than most other BM I've heard, but still...

You might like Summoning. They are very much a development of the Burzum style, but generally less abrasive. Heavy on atmosphere, light on blast beats. All their songs are Tolkien-themed. Good albums to start with: Oath Bound, Nightshade Forests, Dol Guldur.

Some sample tracks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEmcnnj8_v0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZQGOtpJFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVEk8K6MnJo
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: christian7777 on September 29, 2012, 01:03:05 AM
Lately I've been listening to a lot of Scar Symmetry. Apparently they're working on their next album, I look forward to hearing what it will be like.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Kerdy on September 29, 2012, 01:15:42 AM
Hmm, let me think.  Metal and Rock bands I used to enjoy and occasionally listen to now.

Nazareth
AC/DC
Guns and Roses
Metallica (Black album only)
Led Zeppelin
and various other songs scattered throughout.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 01, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
As unoriginal as this opinion may be, Led Zeppelin stands alone at the top. They are the Michael Jordan of Rock music. They had the technical chops, the longevity, the passion, the uncanny live performances, the chemistry, and the originality. All subsequent heavy metal bands were in some way influenced by Zeppelin. But Zeppelin wasn't just a heavy metal band that threw in a few cheesy ballads now and then. What I think made Zeppelin truly great was the diversity and range of the music they produced. They could play any style of music while still retaining their signature sound. And none of their music sounded trite, commercial, or manufactured. It all seemed to come from an authentic core. There is a "realness" to all Zeppelin songs. And like all truly great art, their music stands the test of time. One of the hardest things to do is to make music that doesn't sound dated. How do musicians know that what sounds good at the moment will still sound good decades later? But Led Zeppelin was somehow able to experiment with an array of sounds without creating music that seemed confined by the trappings of the era. There may be other bands and musicians that are just as technically proficient, but Zeppelin had all the intangibles and the combination of all the ingredients that create greatness.


Just my opinion.


Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 01, 2012, 11:42:59 PM
As unoriginal as this opinion may be, Led Zeppelin stands alone at the top. They are the Michael Jordan of Rock music. They had the technical chops, the longevity, the passion, the uncanny live performances, the chemistry, and the originality. All subsequent heavy metal bands were in some way influenced by Zeppelin. But Zeppelin wasn't just a heavy metal band that threw in a few cheesy ballads now and then. What I think made Zeppelin truly great was the diversity and range of the music they produced. They could play any style of music while still retaining their signature sound. And none of their music sounded trite, commercial, or manufactured. It all seemed to come from an authentic core. There is a "realness" to all Zeppelin songs. And like all truly great art, their music stands the test of time. One of the hardest things to do is to make music that doesn't sound dated. How do musicians know that what sounds good at the moment will still sound good decades later? But Led Zeppelin was somehow able to experiment with an array of sounds without creating music that seemed confined by the trappings of the era. There may be other bands and musicians that are just as technically proficient, but Zeppelin had all the intangibles and the combination of all the ingredients that create greatness.


Just my opinion.


Selam

Led Zeppelin stole a bunch of songs from poor American blues singers and claimed credit for them. Eventually they were found out but they're still living in castles. They took the songs of oppressed people and made them into blazing celebrations of the white male ego. They are a disgusting band.

Robert Plant is insufferable.

You are wrong about Led Zeppelin and metal. Their influence is often exaggerated. Black Sabbath was far more important.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 01, 2012, 11:48:34 PM
As far as good bands go, I really love Les Discrets' two albums.

2010's Septembre et Ses Dernieres Pensees

(http://www.lesdiscrets.com/images/lesdiscrets_septembre-et-ses-dernieres-pensees.jpg)

And this year's Ariettes Oubliees

(http://www.lesdiscrets.com/images/art/LESDISCRETS_Ariettes-oubliees_COVERART.jpg)

They are a fairly metallic band. They are often described (along with Alcest) as some sort of shoe gaze/ black metal hybrid. Thematically, they draw a great deal on romanticism and the Symbolist movement. They made a great song out of Paul Verlaine's "Song of Autumn": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaorodbg21Q
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Shiny on October 01, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
I cringe everytime someone says Led Zeppelin is heavy metal.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Timon on October 01, 2012, 11:52:45 PM
Checking out their Wiki page, looks like they've had some pretty extensive lineup changes lately. Hate to say it, but I'm afraid they might have lost their touch. But hey, I still haven't heard all of I Am, so I can't judge just yet.

I see what you mean (at wiki), I was unware. So now they're like Underoath and don't have any founding members left. Huh.

Zao doesnt have any originals either
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 01, 2012, 11:57:03 PM
As unoriginal as this opinion may be, Led Zeppelin stands alone at the top. They are the Michael Jordan of Rock music. They had the technical chops, the longevity, the passion, the uncanny live performances, the chemistry, and the originality. All subsequent heavy metal bands were in some way influenced by Zeppelin. But Zeppelin wasn't just a heavy metal band that threw in a few cheesy ballads now and then. What I think made Zeppelin truly great was the diversity and range of the music they produced. They could play any style of music while still retaining their signature sound. And none of their music sounded trite, commercial, or manufactured. It all seemed to come from an authentic core. There is a "realness" to all Zeppelin songs. And like all truly great art, their music stands the test of time. One of the hardest things to do is to make music that doesn't sound dated. How do musicians know that what sounds good at the moment will still sound good decades later? But Led Zeppelin was somehow able to experiment with an array of sounds without creating music that seemed confined by the trappings of the era. There may be other bands and musicians that are just as technically proficient, but Zeppelin had all the intangibles and the combination of all the ingredients that create greatness.


Just my opinion.


Selam

Led Zeppelin stole a bunch of songs from poor American blues singers and claimed credit for them. Eventually they were found out but they're still living in castles. They took the songs of oppressed people and made them into blazing celebrations of the white male ego. They are a disgusting band.

Robert Plant is insufferable.

You are wrong about Led Zeppelin and metal. Their influence is often exaggerated. Black Sabbath was far more important.

I don't think they stole anything. All art is an immitation of life, and no thought is truly original. Immitation is the greatest form of flattery (somebody said that), and to be influenced by great music and then do something original with it is not thievery in my eyes.

As for the character, ego, and morality of Robert Plant and the other members of Zeppelin, you won't see me arguing for their virtue. But their artistic genius is unquestioned.


Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 01, 2012, 11:58:46 PM
I cringe everytime someone says Led Zeppelin is heavy metal.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that the term "heavy metal" originated with Zeppelin. They definitely played some heavy metal songs, but they played so much more as well.


Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TristanCross on October 02, 2012, 12:15:37 AM
As unoriginal as this opinion may be, Led Zeppelin stands alone at the top. They are the Michael Jordan of Rock music. They had the technical chops, the longevity, the passion, the uncanny live performances, the chemistry, and the originality. All subsequent heavy metal bands were in some way influenced by Zeppelin. But Zeppelin wasn't just a heavy metal band that threw in a few cheesy ballads now and then. What I think made Zeppelin truly great was the diversity and range of the music they produced. They could play any style of music while still retaining their signature sound. And none of their music sounded trite, commercial, or manufactured. It all seemed to come from an authentic core. There is a "realness" to all Zeppelin songs. And like all truly great art, their music stands the test of time. One of the hardest things to do is to make music that doesn't sound dated. How do musicians know that what sounds good at the moment will still sound good decades later? But Led Zeppelin was somehow able to experiment with an array of sounds without creating music that seemed confined by the trappings of the era. There may be other bands and musicians that are just as technically proficient, but Zeppelin had all the intangibles and the combination of all the ingredients that create greatness.


Just my opinion.


Selam

Led Zeppelin stole a bunch of songs from poor American blues singers and claimed credit for them. Eventually they were found out but they're still living in castles. They took the songs of oppressed people and made them into blazing celebrations of the white male ego. They are a disgusting band.

Robert Plant is insufferable.

You are wrong about Led Zeppelin and metal. Their influence is often exaggerated. Black Sabbath was far more important.

I don't think they stole anything. All art is an immitation of life, and no thought is truly original. Immitation is the greatest form of flattery (somebody said that), and to be influenced by great music and then do something original with it is not thievery in my eyes.

As for the character, ego, and morality of Robert Plant and the other members of Zeppelin, you won't see me arguing for their virtue. But their artistic genius is unquestioned.


Selam

Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You was stolen by them. Google it. You'll find the Youtube video exposing it.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Shiny on October 02, 2012, 12:27:09 AM
You know I am against theft and all, but when it comes to music I don't care so much. That's thanks to me growing up with heavily sampled hip hop music.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 02, 2012, 12:28:38 AM
As unoriginal as this opinion may be, Led Zeppelin stands alone at the top. They are the Michael Jordan of Rock music. They had the technical chops, the longevity, the passion, the uncanny live performances, the chemistry, and the originality. All subsequent heavy metal bands were in some way influenced by Zeppelin. But Zeppelin wasn't just a heavy metal band that threw in a few cheesy ballads now and then. What I think made Zeppelin truly great was the diversity and range of the music they produced. They could play any style of music while still retaining their signature sound. And none of their music sounded trite, commercial, or manufactured. It all seemed to come from an authentic core. There is a "realness" to all Zeppelin songs. And like all truly great art, their music stands the test of time. One of the hardest things to do is to make music that doesn't sound dated. How do musicians know that what sounds good at the moment will still sound good decades later? But Led Zeppelin was somehow able to experiment with an array of sounds without creating music that seemed confined by the trappings of the era. There may be other bands and musicians that are just as technically proficient, but Zeppelin had all the intangibles and the combination of all the ingredients that create greatness.


Just my opinion.


Selam

Led Zeppelin stole a bunch of songs from poor American blues singers and claimed credit for them. Eventually they were found out but they're still living in castles. They took the songs of oppressed people and made them into blazing celebrations of the white male ego. They are a disgusting band.

Robert Plant is insufferable.

You are wrong about Led Zeppelin and metal. Their influence is often exaggerated. Black Sabbath was far more important.

I don't think they stole anything. All art is an immitation of life, and no thought is truly original. Immitation is the greatest form of flattery (somebody said that), and to be influenced by great music and then do something original with it is not thievery in my eyes.

As for the character, ego, and morality of Robert Plant and the other members of Zeppelin, you won't see me arguing for their virtue. But their artistic genius is unquestioned.


Selam

Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You was stolen by them. Google it. You'll find the Youtube video exposing it.

All rock was essentially stolen from the blues, if you want to look at it that way. Robert Plant did actually steal Sonny Boy Williamson's harmonica though. That was outright theft.  ;)



Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TristanCross on October 02, 2012, 01:01:28 AM
True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 02, 2012, 01:22:44 AM
True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).

I won't argue with your spiritual father. I rarely listen to Zeppelin anymore. Not as the result of any conscious decision, but my spirit just isn't drawn to rock music like it used to be. I consider that a good thing. But don't get me wrong,  I still "get the Led out" every now and then.  ;)


Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on October 02, 2012, 01:28:52 AM
This thread needs more Virgin Black:

Silent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-18JhaATBrQ).
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on October 02, 2012, 01:37:54 AM
This thread needs more Virgin Black:


(http://imageshack.us/a/img35/9977/blackmadonnajpeg.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/blackmadonnajpeg.png/)


Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 02, 2012, 03:53:51 PM
Underoath announced that they're breaking up...

(inb4 iconodule, alveus, et al start saying "no big loss"  ;D )
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 02, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Who is Underoath? Seriously, I don't know who they are.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 02, 2012, 04:10:17 PM
Who is Underoath? Seriously, I don't know who they are.

Really? Wow, you really are elite!  :D Pretty sure they were the biggest Christian metalcore* band, in terms of sales anyway. I thought they were hit and miss, but their Define the Great Line is one of my favorite albums.


*They didn't start out as metalcore, but were some type of eclectic mix of metal.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 02, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Who is Underoath? Seriously, I don't know who they are.

Really? Wow, you really are elite!  :D Pretty sure they were the biggest Christian metalcore* band, in terms of sales anyway. I thought they were hit and miss, but their Define the Great Line is one of my favorite albums.


*They didn't start out as metalcore, but were some type of eclectic mix of metal.

Okay. I've honestly never really delved into the metalcore genre. I generally don't like the sound and the bands just seem like a never-ending stream of really dumb names.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Schultz on October 02, 2012, 04:27:19 PM
I cringe everytime someone says Led Zeppelin is heavy metal.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that the term "heavy metal" originated with Zeppelin. They definitely played some heavy metal songs, but they played so much more as well.


Selam

"Heavy Metal" in the context of music originated with "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf. 

While it's largely a matter of hair-splitting, I'd consider Black Sabbath to be the "first" heavy metal band, especially when put up against that first Zeppelin record which, with the benefit of hindsight, sounds more "rock" than "metal." 

And people who complain about LZ stealing blues riffs have no idea what they're talking about because the history of the blues is the history of stealing riffs.  Buddy Guy often said he liked playing with BB King and Clapton because he could watch and listen to them play up close so he could steal their riffs.  Classical composers often stole melodies and arrangements from one another willy-nilly.  The only people who think this is somehow some great crime are non-musicians.  All musicians are thieves in some way, shape, or form.  The best have the ability to do a quick paint job, as it were, and drive away with what seems to be a new car.  At present, I'm stealing all sorts of Beck and Page licks, but I barely use some cheap Krylon on them, so to speak. 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on October 02, 2012, 06:18:04 PM
I cringe everytime someone says Led Zeppelin is heavy metal.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that the term "heavy metal" originated with Zeppelin. They definitely played some heavy metal songs, but they played so much more as well.


Selam

"Heavy Metal" in the context of music originated with "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf. 

While it's largely a matter of hair-splitting, I'd consider Black Sabbath to be the "first" heavy metal band, especially when put up against that first Zeppelin record which, with the benefit of hindsight, sounds more "rock" than "metal." 

And people who complain about LZ stealing blues riffs have no idea what they're talking about because the history of the blues is the history of stealing riffs.  Buddy Guy often said he liked playing with BB King and Clapton because he could watch and listen to them play up close so he could steal their riffs.  Classical composers often stole melodies and arrangements from one another willy-nilly.  The only people who think this is somehow some great crime are non-musicians.  All musicians are thieves in some way, shape, or form.  The best have the ability to do a quick paint job, as it were, and drive away with what seems to be a new car.  At present, I'm stealing all sorts of Beck and Page licks, but I barely use some cheap Krylon on them, so to speak. 

When I learned to play bass, one of the first things I learned was the simple 'walking' bass line, followed by some other blues figures. I almost never had to vary them after that; nearly every blues song was some kind of assembly of the basic riffs. Just as reggaeton has pretty much one drumbeat (taken from "Dem Bow" by Shabba Ranks), blues has a few patterns and except for lead guitar solos, there's not much more to it in terms of building blocks. That doesn't mean the songs aren't worth listening to. There are only so many notes and chords... "Immature poets borrow. Mature poets steal."
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Timon on October 02, 2012, 08:31:23 PM
Underoath announced that they're breaking up...

(inb4 iconodule, alveus, et al start saying "no big loss"  ;D )

Super bummed about this.  Been one of my favorites since "when the sun sleeps"

It seems all my favorite bands growing up are finally getting old and hanging it up.  Thrice recently hung it up to... Theyre probably my favorite of all time...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 03, 2012, 01:01:36 AM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

This thread needs more Virgin Black:


(http://imageshack.us/a/img35/9977/blackmadonnajpeg.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/blackmadonnajpeg.png/)


Selam

You literally could have no idea how deeply personally and spiritually moving that particular Icon has been for my life :)

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 03, 2012, 01:04:56 AM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I cringe everytime someone says Led Zeppelin is heavy metal.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But I'm pretty sure that the term "heavy metal" originated with Zeppelin. They definitely played some heavy metal songs, but they played so much more as well.


Selam

"Heavy Metal" in the context of music originated with "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf.  

While it's largely a matter of hair-splitting, I'd consider Black Sabbath to be the "first" heavy metal band, especially when put up against that first Zeppelin record which, with the benefit of hindsight, sounds more "rock" than "metal."  

And people who complain about LZ stealing blues riffs have no idea what they're talking about because the history of the blues is the history of stealing riffs.  Buddy Guy often said he liked playing with BB King and Clapton because he could watch and listen to them play up close so he could steal their riffs.  Classical composers often stole melodies and arrangements from one another willy-nilly.  The only people who think this is somehow some great crime are non-musicians.  All musicians are thieves in some way, shape, or form.  The best have the ability to do a quick paint job, as it were, and drive away with what seems to be a new car.  At present, I'm stealing all sorts of Beck and Page licks, but I barely use some cheap Krylon on them, so to speak.  

When I learned to play bass, one of the first things I learned was the simple 'walking' bass line, followed by some other blues figures. I almost never had to vary them after that; nearly every blues song was some kind of assembly of the basic riffs. Just as reggaeton has pretty much one drumbeat (taken from "Dem Bow" by Shabba Ranks), blues has a few patterns and except for lead guitar solos, there's not much more to it in terms of building blocks.

At the foundation, blues is simple, but the more intricate blues bass players are intensely nuanced.  Reggae seems so simple and easy to folks listening from the outside, but musically it is quite literally one the hardest styles to play right. I've heard a million terrible imitation blues and reggae bands that would swear to themselves they were authentic, and had even somehow convinced some kind of fan base to believe the same, but from my experience playing and singing in blues and reggae bands in particular, finding a good bassie who can truly hold it down while also experimenting and yet essentially leading the band? A gem almost as rare as a good keys player ;)


stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on October 08, 2012, 08:38:54 AM
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Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 08, 2012, 11:36:48 AM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).

I won't argue with your spiritual father. I rarely listen to Zeppelin anymore. Not as the result of any conscious decision, but my spirit just isn't drawn to rock music like it used to be. I consider that a good thing. But don't get me wrong,  I still "get the Led out" every now and then.  ;)


Selam

That is good.  Robert Plant ruins the otherwise sonic brilliance that is Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones ;) 

They should release dub versions!!

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: FormerReformer on October 08, 2012, 11:46:48 AM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).

I won't argue with your spiritual father. I rarely listen to Zeppelin anymore. Not as the result of any conscious decision, but my spirit just isn't drawn to rock music like it used to be. I consider that a good thing. But don't get me wrong,  I still "get the Led out" every now and then.  ;)


Selam

That is good.  Robert Plant ruins the otherwise sonic brilliance that is Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones ;) 

They should release dub versions!!

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Please. Like the Yardbirds went anywhere. Without Plant there would have been no early Soundgarden. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 08, 2012, 11:54:56 AM

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).

I won't argue with your spiritual father. I rarely listen to Zeppelin anymore. Not as the result of any conscious decision, but my spirit just isn't drawn to rock music like it used to be. I consider that a good thing. But don't get me wrong,  I still "get the Led out" every now and then.  ;)


Selam

That is good.  Robert Plant ruins the otherwise sonic brilliance that is Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones ;) 

They should release dub versions!!

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Please. Like the Yardbirds went anywhere. Without Plant there would have been no early Soundgarden. 'Nuff said.


So, what, you are only making me dislike Led Zeppelin all the more if we can blame them for Chris Cornell  :police:

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: FormerReformer on October 08, 2012, 12:17:36 PM

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


True, Gebre. Led Zeppelin is also one of my favorite bands (though I was taught to believe rock music is demonic, or so says my former spiritual father).

I won't argue with your spiritual father. I rarely listen to Zeppelin anymore. Not as the result of any conscious decision, but my spirit just isn't drawn to rock music like it used to be. I consider that a good thing. But don't get me wrong,  I still "get the Led out" every now and then.  ;)


Selam

That is good.  Robert Plant ruins the otherwise sonic brilliance that is Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones ;) 

They should release dub versions!!

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Please. Like the Yardbirds went anywhere. Without Plant there would have been no early Soundgarden. 'Nuff said.


So, what, you are only making me dislike Led Zeppelin all the more if we can blame them for Chris Cornell  :police:

stay blessed,
habte selassie

You disparage everything up to Superunknown? Heresy.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 08, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Disclosure:  I own Led Zeppelin III, it is not only the only Zep record I can dig, but it is indeed one of the greatest albums of all time!  However the key is Plant does more singing, a lot less wailing and moaning suggestively :)

I listen to Sabbath so it is not effeminate vocals that I dislike, it is just that it is a thin line between good effeminate male vocals and whining effeminate male vocals.  In my opinion, Robert Plant crosses the line too much, Ozzy straddles it just right.

I also dig singers with off-tempo cadence like Lou Reed and Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth, but it is equally a matter of subtle nuances that makes that kind of singing good or terrible.

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 11, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
Really digging the new album by Daylight Dies, A Frail Becoming...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 25, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
Their age is really starting to show...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/377478_10151094655265264_282292381_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on October 26, 2012, 02:39:47 AM
Last time I checked Wintersun was a Melodic Death Metal band but apparently they decided that their previous album was not epic enough.

Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWxLQDzJOU)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 22, 2012, 01:53:28 PM
I just caught myself thinking "Ain't my -----" as a response to something. As in, the phrase used by a band impersonating Metallica on the album Load in the song of the same name. Over 15 years later and I still have that phrase in my head? From that album? And aren't I missing the point the song was making? What's wrong with me? I'm scared...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on November 22, 2012, 01:55:20 PM
I just caught myself thinking "Ain't my -----" as a response to something. As in, the phrase used by a band impersonating Metallica on the album Load in the song of the same name. Over 15 years later and I still have that phrase in my head? From that album? And aren't I missing the point the song was making? What's wrong with me? I'm scared...

It's okay.  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on November 24, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
My favorite thrash album:

(http://metalartwork.free.fr/images/pochettes2/tailleoriginale2/big1/Immortal_-_at_the_heart_of_winter_(jean_pascal_fournier).jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 01, 2012, 09:37:08 AM
I know you've been waiting all year for this. I won't make you wait any longer. Here are my ratings of albums released in 2012 (the ones I own anyway)...

95/100 - Carach Angren - Where the Corpses Sink Forever
94/100 - ea - ea
90/100 - Kreator - Phantom Antichrist
87/100 - Daylight Dies - A Frail Becoming
86/100 - Cannibal Corpse - Torture
84/100 - Merrimack - The Acausal Mass
83/100 - Wodensthrone - Curse
82/100 - As I Lay Dying - Awakened
81/100 - Nekromantheon - Rise, Vulcan Spectre
79/100 - Lamb of God - Resolution
79/100 - Candlemass - Psalms for the Dead
79/100 - The Forsaken - Beyond Redemption
78/100 - Ahab - The Giant
78/100 - Anhedonist - Netherwards
77/100 - Grave Digger - Clash of the Gods
76/100 - Testament - Dark Roots of Earth
74/100 - Nile - At the Gate of Sethu
74/100 - Evoken - Atra Mors
73/100 - Pelican - Ataraxia/Taraxis
71/100 - Angel Witch - As Above, So Below
70/100 - Over Kill - The Electric Age
63/100 - Havok - Point of No Return EP
60/100 - Metallica - Beyond Magnetic EP
58/100 - Napalm Death - Utilitarian
57/100 - Shadows Fall - Fire From the Sky
51/100 - Demon Hunter - True Defiance
44/100 - Conan - Monnos
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 01, 2012, 12:47:38 PM
Last weekend my friends and I were at a karaoke bar that had, among other odd selections, Napalm Death's 2-second song "You Suffer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGOT4d2Hs8) in the database.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on December 01, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
Last weekend my friends and I were at a karaoke bar that had, among other odd selections, Napalm Death's 2-second song "You Suffer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGOT4d2Hs8) in the database.

Well? How did it go?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 01, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
Last weekend my friends and I were at a karaoke bar that had, among other odd selections, Napalm Death's 2-second song "You Suffer" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGOT4d2Hs8) in the database.

Well? How did it go?

I didn't do that song... I don't think any of my friends would have understood. I went with Iron Maiden's "Aces High" and also songs by Tom Jones and Roy Orbison.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on December 01, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
Asteriktos: pretty good list!  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 31, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
Albums I'm looking forward to next year...
Nightfall - Cassiopeia (1.18.13)
Cult of Luna - Vertikal (1.29.13)
Mourning Beloveth - Formless (2.15.13)
Twilight Of The Gods - Fire On The Mountain (3.?.13)
October Falls - The Plague Of A Coming Age (3.15.13)
Luna Ad Noctum - Hypnotic Inferno (3.21.13)
Cathedral - The Last Spire (4.?.13)
Opeth - ? ("something's coming" in the spring, don't know what)
Edge of Serenity - The Royal Hunt (Spring?)
Mouth of the Architect - ? (Spring?)
Acrassicauda
Extol
Mournful Gust
Lazarus A.D.
Mastodon
Dark Fortress
To Cast a Shadow
Megadeth
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 31, 2012, 04:45:54 PM
I thought I'd heard all I needed to hear this year, but I was wrong  :angel: I have to add:

The Howling Void - The Womb Beyond the World

...to my top 10 albums from 2012. Some great funeral doom music.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on December 31, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
I know you've been waiting all year for this. I won't make you wait any longer. Here are my ratings of albums released in 2012 (the ones I own anyway)...

Sheesh - I don't have any of those albums, and nothing at all by most of those bands. I'm much more comfortable in the symphonic end of the metal spectrum, particularly the female-fronted kind. The only thing I have to look forward to is whether Floor Janssen will become the next vocalist for Nightwish. And how long it will take Blind Guardian this time to bring out new material.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 31, 2012, 06:20:54 PM
I know you've been waiting all year for this. I won't make you wait any longer. Here are my ratings of albums released in 2012 (the ones I own anyway)...

Sheesh - I don't have any of those albums, and nothing at all by most of those bands. I'm much more comfortable in the symphonic end of the metal spectrum, particularly the female-fronted kind. The only thing I have to look forward to is whether Floor Janssen will become the next vocalist for Nightwish. And how long it will take Blind Guardian this time to bring out new material.

Pffffttt... Leave the hall.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on December 31, 2012, 06:24:42 PM
Pffffttt... Leave the hall.

I still have some goodies from the Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes, prefect. :P
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 31, 2012, 09:06:19 PM
Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/epic-jackie-chan-template.png)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Timon on January 02, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
Favorite heavy albums of 2012:

Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind

Gaza - No Absolutes In Human Suffereing (not the most spiritually uplifting album ever, but jeez its heavy...)

And Im about to check up on the newest Kowloon Walled City album called Container Ships.

Honorable mentions:

The Chariot - One Wing

Old Man Gloom - No
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on January 09, 2013, 01:45:58 PM
Any newer bands that you're liking? I mean bands that have just begun putting out albums in the last, say, 7 years or less?  I have a few...

Acrassicauda (http://youtu.be/ZXH8plYbd_w) - Iraqi thrash. They're supposed to have a new album coming this year, their first full length. Technically they've been together a decade, but their first real release was an EP in 2010.

Anhedonist (http://youtu.be/pvVFnj2MB3I) - American death/doom. First full length came out in 2012.

Carach Angren (http://youtu.be/wpGR3rC0DV4) - Dutch symphonic black metal. My new favorite band, I'm really digging the new release from last year, and also enjoy the past couple that I've heard on spotify. First EP was in 2005 but their first full length wasn't until 2008.

Havok (http://youtu.be/NiAyUAOWCUM) - American thrash. I liked their debut (2009) the most, but I still have high hopes for future releases.

The Howling Void (http://youtu.be/Na9GfChX0OU) - American funeral doom. A bit repetitive at times, but very relaxing and enjoyable nonetheless. They released 3 albums in 4 years starting in 2009.

Lazarus A.D. (http://youtu.be/ZEMN7cMIgNw) - American thrash. Another thrash band that I liked the debut (2007) of the most but am still optimistic about.

Nekromantheon (http://youtu.be/nRLwCBWemi8) - Norwegian thrash metal. Pretty good stuff IMO. First EP was in 2007 and first album in 2010.

The Resurrection Sorrow - American stoner/heavy. Pretty good debut album in 2009, especially considering that I don't like much from this genre.

Wodensthrone (http://youtu.be/3SpwX6e9gJQ) - British black/folk. I haven't heard their first one from 2009 yet, but the album from last year was good.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on January 09, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
The latest In This Moment album, Blood, is quite enjoyable. Much less metalcore than before, although the vocals still slide that way occasionally.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 09, 2013, 01:51:42 PM
I mentioned them before, but my two favorite new bands at the moment are Alcest and Les Discrets from France. They are often described as a cross between shoegaze and black metal... sounds awkward but it works wonderfully.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 13, 2013, 01:19:54 AM
A new Megadeth album comes out this June. Hopefully it's better than Thirteen.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on March 08, 2013, 02:59:05 AM
I can't believe it took this long for me to start using Spotify. Over the past couple months I've heard more bands that I liked, who are new to me, than I had over the previous 10 years.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on March 08, 2013, 05:56:07 AM
I left Spotify when they started charging. It was a resource hog anyway. I'm much happier with Last.fm.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on March 08, 2013, 07:27:12 AM
I pay $0 a month for spotify  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on March 08, 2013, 07:28:48 AM
Oh, there's (still) a free version. I just got tired with the 'This (whatever) is only available to premium users' message. As I said... diff'rent strokes. :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 03, 2013, 04:20:36 AM
New Megadeth vid (http://www.vevo.com/watch/megadeth/super-collider/USUV71300935). As horrible as you'd expect if you've heard the album. Though I have to say that Dave Mustaine playing the jerk (abusive?) Father was completely believable.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Schultz on July 03, 2013, 09:18:16 AM
New Megadeth vid (http://www.vevo.com/watch/megadeth/super-collider/USUV71300935). As horrible as you'd expect if you've heard the album. Though I have to say that Dave Mustaine playing the jerk (abusive?) Father was completely believable.

The chorus of that song isn't bad but it's not a Megadeth song.  The verses are atrocious.

The video was even worse.  A love story?  Come on. 

I have to go watch "Wake Up Dead" now to clean my brain out.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 16, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France (http://www.euronews.com/2013/07/16/neo-nazi-and-black-metal-star-varg-vikernes-arrested-in-france-/)

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on July 16, 2013, 12:19:36 PM
 :o >:(

And I like Burzum. Just for the music, not the wacky philosophy thing.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Schultz on July 16, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France (http://www.euronews.com/2013/07/16/neo-nazi-and-black-metal-star-varg-vikernes-arrested-in-france-/)

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.

Good riddance.  I never understood the draw of that guy or his music. 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 19, 2013, 07:43:58 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/970118_10151457413002330_1044432483_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mike on July 19, 2013, 10:11:00 PM
Co-organising that (http://www.lastfm.pl/festival/3573572+Festiwal+Muzyki+M%C5%82odej+Bia%C5%82orusi+%22Basowiszcza+-+%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%96%D1%88%D1%87%D0%B0%22+2013) at the moment.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 20, 2013, 11:22:55 PM
I know this is sort of an obscure question, but can anyone think of songs in which you enjoy the rhythm under a solo more than the solo itself?  Or at least they fit so well together that you enjoy the rhythm as much as the solo?

I like a few tandems like that on Tourniquet's Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance album, but especially with En Hakkore (solo (http://youtu.be/lEt4XxiucHs?t=2m13s)).

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 20, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
Co-organising that (http://www.lastfm.pl/festival/3573572+Festiwal+Muzyki+M%C5%82odej+Bia%C5%82orusi+%22Basowiszcza+-+%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%96%D1%88%D1%87%D0%B0%22+2013) at the moment.

I imagine that's a hair-greying process to go through to get everything set up?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mike on July 21, 2013, 04:36:36 PM
Co-organising that (http://www.lastfm.pl/festival/3573572+Festiwal+Muzyki+M%C5%82odej+Bia%C5%82orusi+%22Basowiszcza+-+%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%96%D1%88%D1%87%D0%B0%22+2013) at the moment.

I imagine that's a hair-greying process to go through to get everything set up?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mike on July 21, 2013, 05:00:38 PM
Some pictures:
http://generation.by/doc14-726.html?fb_action_ids=649573878386000
http://euroradio.fm/basovishcha-2013-vyaliki-fotarepartazh
http://www.racyja.com/index.php?id=103&zoom=16035#.UexN29L0GSo
http://www.racyja.com/index.php?id=103&zoom=16016#.UexOCdL0GSo
http://nn.by/?c=ar&i=112889
https://www.facebook.com/ilo.karpiuk/media_set?set=a.10201506280717683.1073741825.1196417058&type=1 (you need to 'friend' me on facebook to watch them
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mike on July 23, 2013, 08:57:00 AM
Media coverage from the festival (in Belarusian or Polish):
http://www.racyja.com/index.php?id=103&zoom=16035#.Ue52INL0GSp
http://www.racyja.com/index.php?id=103&zoom=16016#.Ue52OdL0GSo
http://generation.by/news6199.html
http://www.svaboda.org/content/article/25050960.html
http://www.svaboda.org/content/article/25053675.html
http://euroradio.fm/basovishcha-2013-vyaliki-fotarepartazh
http://euroradio.fm/belaruskaya-mova-na-basovishchy-robicca-usyo-bolsh-neabavyazkovay
http://nn.by/?c=ar&i=112889
http://nn.by/?c=ar&i=112927
http://nn.by/?c=ar&i=113003
http://bialystok.gazeta.pl/bialystok/1,35233,14313541,Basowiszcza__Grodek_nie_spal_przez_dwie_noce__Bialorus.html
http://www.t-styl.info/by/115/lifestyle/10807/“Басовішча-2013”-падвяло-толькі-надвор’е.htm
http://ultra-music.com/articles/reviews/13930
http://www.poranny.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130720%2FKULTURA01%2F130729989
http://www.poranny.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130719%2FBIALYSTOK%2F130719532
http://www.radio.bialystok.pl/kultura/wydarzenia/id/101541
http://www.wspolczesna.pl/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20130721%2FREG06%2F130729984
http://belsat.eu/be/wiadomosci/a,14899,vinsent-akute-i-the-toobes-vystupili-na-basovishchy.html
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 31, 2013, 04:17:41 AM
So is that why you hadn't slept for like a bazillion hours the other day, you were doing this? How did it go overall?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mike on July 31, 2013, 04:32:18 AM
Yes. It ended up quite fine actually. 2-3k visitors in total, no big problems in the middle of doing, press reviews are positive moslty. Here you can find  a short clip from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmBEbnkDCvw
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: tetepet on July 31, 2013, 07:52:59 AM
Rise Against.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on August 02, 2013, 01:51:34 AM
I have been completely swamped with requests to give a mid-year list of what albums I like that have been released this year. It's insane. I kept putting it off, but now some are getting quite violent, so I will acquiesce and post a simple list. I hope this will placate ... well you know who you are! A more detailed list will arrive in December. Be calm and listen to metal.

Koldbrann - Vertigo (black)
October Falls - The Plague of a Coming Age (folk/doom/black)
Essence - Last Night of Solace (thrash)
Procession - To Reap Heavens Apart (doom)
Ade - Spartacus (death)
Abomnium - Coffinships (black)
October Tide - Tunnel of No Light (melodic doom/death)
Immolation - Kingdom of Conspiracy (death)
Inferior - Unsoiled (thrash)
Exeloume - Return of the Nephilim (thrash/death)
Agathodaimon - In Darkness (gothic/black)
Throne of Heresy - Realms of Desecration (death)
Intronaut - Habitual Levitations (progressive)
Sonic Reign - Monument in Black (black)
Lychgate - Lychgate (black)
Hela - Broken Cross (stoner/doom)

(All available on Spotify if you want to check any out)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on August 24, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
I've been cycling through In Mourning's last two albums. Progressive melo-death in the same vein of Blackwater Park-era Opeth.

(http://i.imgur.com/pMnRU3N.jpg)
In Mourning - The Smoke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPfkAJx_ur0)

(http://i.imgur.com/lmEYwAt.jpg)
In Mourning - A Vow to Conquer the Ocean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EXD-uWAoN0)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on August 24, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
Wow! Good artwork. I will check them out.  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on August 24, 2013, 02:19:32 PM
A year late to the party, but I'm relieved to confirm that I do like Kamelot even without Roy Khan. ;D
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 19, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Snippets (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deliverance-hear-what-i-say-audio-samples/) from the upcoming Deliverance album. (http://www.emoticonsfree.org/wp-content/uploads/indifferent0004.gif)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 20, 2013, 08:56:12 PM
Metallica's Robert Trujillo Shares A Great Story (http://www.metalinjection.net/av/metallicas-robert-trujillo-shares-a-great-story-about-meeting-ozzy-osbourne-for-the-first-time#more-42710) About Meeting Ozzy (and more).

lol, nice
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 24, 2013, 06:00:43 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1474504_479445262175334_1062187530_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: orthonorm on November 24, 2013, 07:37:09 PM
I know you've been waiting all year for this. I won't make you wait any longer. Here are my ratings of albums released in 2012 (the ones I own anyway)...

95/100 - Carach Angren - Where the Corpses Sink Forever
94/100 - ea - ea
90/100 - Kreator - Phantom Antichrist
87/100 - Daylight Dies - A Frail Becoming
86/100 - Cannibal Corpse - Torture
84/100 - Merrimack - The Acausal Mass
83/100 - Wodensthrone - Curse
82/100 - As I Lay Dying - Awakened
81/100 - Nekromantheon - Rise, Vulcan Spectre
79/100 - Lamb of God - Resolution
79/100 - Candlemass - Psalms for the Dead
79/100 - The Forsaken - Beyond Redemption
78/100 - Ahab - The Giant
78/100 - Anhedonist - Netherwards
77/100 - Grave Digger - Clash of the Gods
76/100 - Testament - Dark Roots of Earth
74/100 - Nile - At the Gate of Sethu
74/100 - Evoken - Atra Mors
73/100 - Pelican - Ataraxia/Taraxis
71/100 - Angel Witch - As Above, So Below
70/100 - Over Kill - The Electric Age
63/100 - Havok - Point of No Return EP
60/100 - Metallica - Beyond Magnetic EP
58/100 - Napalm Death - Utilitarian
57/100 - Shadows Fall - Fire From the Sky
51/100 - Demon Hunter - True Defiance
44/100 - Conan - Monnos

LOL @ you!!!!!!

Post of Last Year!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 01, 2013, 09:08:06 PM
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1424414_10152161567436834_1184316876_n.jpg)

Black metal. It's not all guitars and screams and satan and church burnings. Sometimes you need to take a break from all that and just do an arts and crafts project.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on December 02, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
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Black metal. It's not all guitars and screams and satan and church burnings. Sometimes you need to take a break from all that and just do an arts and crafts project.

STAAAAKE EEEET! AND THEN KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

(http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt84/breezyauzette/adds%20and%20smileys/bth_rofl-1.gif)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Jetavan on December 02, 2013, 07:29:11 PM
They're not "Living Colour" but....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f56ZtXrx_nw
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on December 05, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
So, anyone have their 2013 metal album picks? Here are my current top five:

Intronaut - Habitual Levitations
The Ocean - Pelagial
Caligula's Horse - The Tide, The Thief & River's End
In Vain - Aenigma
Omnium Gatherum - Beyond
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: IoanC on December 06, 2013, 12:17:59 AM
2013 picks:

Motorhead -- Aftershock
Queens of The Stone Age -- ...Like Clockwork
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 06, 2013, 12:58:21 AM
I have been completely swamped with requests to give a mid-year list of what albums I like that have been released this year. It's insane. I kept putting it off, but now some are getting quite violent, so I will acquiesce and post a simple list. I hope this will placate ... well you know who you are! A more detailed list will arrive in December. Be calm and listen to metal.

Koldbrann - Vertigo (black)
October Falls - The Plague of a Coming Age (folk/doom/black)
Essence - Last Night of Solace (thrash)
Procession - To Reap Heavens Apart (doom)
Ade - Spartacus (death)
Abomnium - Coffinships (black)
October Tide - Tunnel of No Light (melodic doom/death)
Immolation - Kingdom of Conspiracy (death)
Inferior - Unsoiled (thrash)
Exeloume - Return of the Nephilim (thrash/death)
Agathodaimon - In Darkness (gothic/black)
Throne of Heresy - Realms of Desecration (death)
Intronaut - Habitual Levitations (progressive)
Sonic Reign - Monument in Black (black)
Lychgate - Lychgate (black)
Hela - Broken Cross (stoner/doom)

(All available on Spotify if you want to check any out)

Since I made the above post about 4 months ago I have added the following albums to my 2013 playlist:

Havok - Unnatural Selection (thrash)
Sons of Aeon - Sons of Aeon (melodic death)
Seth - The Howling Spirit (black)
Orpheus Omega - ResIllusion (melodic death)
Acacia - Tills Doden Skiljer Oss At (atmospheric doom/black)
Thrawsunblat - Wanderer on the Continent of Saplings (melodic folk/black)
Kryptos - The Coils of Apollyon (heavy/thrash)
Stellar Master Elite - II: Destructive Interference Generator (black/doom)
The Vision Bleak - Witching Hour (gothic)
Necrophobic - Womb of Lilithu (death/black)


I may or may not try to do a top 10 (or whatever number) around Christmas.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: orthonorm on December 06, 2013, 01:17:15 AM
I may or may not try to do a top 10 (or whatever number) around Christmas.

Oh how you toy with us all!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 06, 2013, 01:19:36 AM
Don't worry, I would never crush your expectations! You will see my list regardless of whether I publish it in public...  :-*
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 06, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
The Vision Bleak - Witching Hour (gothic)

Really fun band. BTW Empyrium has just released (on vinyl) an EP of songs from their upcoming new album.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 17, 2013, 06:19:28 PM
Here are the songs that ended up on my playlist from 2013, with my favorites (I guess) in bold...

Koldbrann - Vertigo (black)
October Falls - The Plague of a Coming Age (folk/doom/black)
Essence - Last Night of Solace (thrash)
Procession - To Reap Heavens Apart (doom)
Ade - Spartacus (death)
Abomnium - Coffinships (black)
October Tide - Tunnel of No Light (melodic doom/death)
Immolation - Kingdom of Conspiracy (death)
Inferior - Unsoiled (thrash)
Exeloume - Return of the Nephilim (thrash/death)
Agathodaimon - In Darkness (gothic/black)
Throne of Heresy - Realms of Desecration (death)
Intronaut - Habitual Levitations (progressive)
Sonic Reign - Monument in Black (black)
Lychgate - Lychgate (black)
Hela - Broken Cross (stoner/doom)
Havok - Unnatural Selection (thrash)
Sons of Aeon - Sons of Aeon (melodic death)
Seth - The Howling Spirit (black)
Orpheus Omega - ResIllusion (melodic death)
Acacia - Tills Doden Skiljer Oss At (atmospheric doom/black)
Thrawsunblat - Wanderer on the Continent of Saplings (melodic folk/black)
Kryptos - The Coils of Apollyon (heavy/thrash)
Stellar Master Elite - II: Destructive Interference Generator (black/doom)
The Vision Bleak - Witching Hour (gothic)
Necrophobic - Womb of Lilithu (death/black)
Izegrim - Congress of the Insane (thrash/death)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 25, 2014, 05:04:27 PM
Christian Metal Singer Tim Lambesis Pleads Guilty in Murder for Hire (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Christian-Metal-Singer-Tim-Lambesis-Guilty-Murder-for-Hire-San-Diego-247112481.html)

The singer of the Grammy-nominated Christian metal band As I Lay Dying pleaded guilty to his role in a murder-for-hire plot.

Carlsbad resident Tim Lambesis entered the change of plea in court Tuesday, admitting that he hired a hit man to kill his estranged wife.

As a result of his change of plea, Lambesis will serve nine years according to a court clerk...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: DeniseDenise on February 25, 2014, 05:28:01 PM
Maybe he can form a new group on the inside...


'As I lay Servingtime'
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: vamrat on February 27, 2014, 02:13:49 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth), but is there a good Roman themed 'dark' metal band?  And good is the operative word.  I have listened to Occulus Ex - I, Caligula.  They're kinda stupid, IMHO.  

Perhaps not as good as Amon Amarth - who can be - but close enough for government...err res publica...work?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 27, 2014, 02:28:51 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth), but is there a good Roman themed 'dark' metal band?  And good is the operative word.  I have listened to Occulus Ex - I, Caligula.  They're kinda stupid, IMHO. 

Perhaps not as good as Amon Amarth - who can be - but close enough for government...err res publica...work?

The band Ade that I mentioned above has Greek and Roman influenced themes I think. Check out here (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ade/128304) for specific lyrics. Various songs are on Youtube (http://youtu.be/SzOiZxhsA_E), Spotify, etc. Does it have to be Roman, or can it also be Greek?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: vamrat on February 27, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth), but is there a good Roman themed 'dark' metal band?  And good is the operative word.  I have listened to Occulus Ex - I, Caligula.  They're kinda stupid, IMHO. 

Perhaps not as good as Amon Amarth - who can be - but close enough for government...err res publica...work?

The band Ade that I mentioned above has Greek and Roman influenced themes I think. Check out here (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ade/128304) for specific lyrics. Various songs are on Youtube (http://youtu.be/SzOiZxhsA_E), Spotify, etc. Does it have to be Roman, or can it also be Greek?

I will take a look at them.  Greek would be cool too.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 28, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
I will try to dig some up tonight. But for now I will offer this...

The 20 most insane real life Spinal Tap moments (http://shortlist.com/entertainment/music/the-real-tales-of-spinal-tap)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on February 28, 2014, 05:37:48 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth)

You might want to check The Return of the Black Death by Antestor too. It's not exactly Folk Metal but for some reason I've always thought of it as a sort of Viking Metal. Here's one of their songs.

antestor - kongsblod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuioLVgE75g
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on February 28, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth), but is there a good Roman themed 'dark' metal band?  And good is the operative word.  I have listened to Occulus Ex - I, Caligula.  They're kinda stupid, IMHO.  

Perhaps not as good as Amon Amarth - who can be - but close enough for government...err res publica...work?

For folk metal, Svartsot's first album is really good, and then of course there is the mighty Arkona of Russia which crushes all else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WnZGkPuVE&list=PLE481DBF9EB5AA035

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_7o_f70lZE&list=PL94hhi9zEG-mEZ2co6Y1syIsWT6UnpmS1
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on March 17, 2014, 02:58:04 AM
I'm still gonna look up some more Greek and Roman themed bands, I just got a bit sidetracked. I would have done it yesterday, but I was/am still in the process of catching up on the new albums for this year.

Speaking of... Manowar rerecorded Kings of Metal (http://youtu.be/qtBguHxDWoA). Meh. Older Manowar albums usually seemed like half filler and half cheesy goodness, but KoM was probably my favorite by them, and was their most consistent effort IMO. But this new version... this makes me want to leave the hall.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 09, 2014, 12:06:15 PM
Now that more important matters are taken care of (and he is staying in jail a while)...

As I Lay Dying (http://asilaydying.com/)

"A good starting point is to clarify some things that have often been falsely reported. Tim was not a Christian at the time of his arrest, nor was As I Lay Dying a Christian band in 2013. It hadn't been for some time and, to the best of my knowledge, only one of the people playing in the band even claimed to be a Christian at that time..."
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 09, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
I'm still gonna look up some more Greek and Roman themed bands, I just got a bit sidetracked. I would have done it yesterday, but I was/am still in the process of catching up on the new albums for this year.

Well stop screwin around ang get crackin!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 11, 2014, 08:28:05 PM
So, I have plenty of Viking Metal to listen to (by plenty, I mean Amon Amarth), but is there a good Roman themed 'dark' metal band?  And good is the operative word.  I have listened to Occulus Ex - I, Caligula.  They're kinda stupid, IMHO. 

Perhaps not as good as Amon Amarth - who can be - but close enough for government...err res publica...work?

I have no idea what you would also consider "good" (or for that matter what subgenre or vocal style you'd prefer). Luckily Youtube links are easy enough to provide and don't take too long to check out, so I didn't do too much trimming from the list.

Roman
Ex Deo - Romulus (http://youtu.be/nLeWnnPnY_k) (symphonic death)
Centvrion - Snow Covers Imperial Alps (http://youtu.be/mK2EJ5WJwXk) (heavy/power)
Son of Aurelius - The Farthest Reaches (http://youtu.be/_Riu0_mKYiM) (technical death)
Impervum - War of Titans (http://youtu.be/28PouNEuIxo) (power)
Gotland - Gloria Et Morte (http://youtu.be/0pwLCVtx0bQ) (black/folk)
Anguish Force - Follow the Rainbow (http://youtu.be/_BxdjwMER_Y) (heavy/power/thrash)
Imperious - Three Legions March (http://youtu.be/VMmGaS8QyLo) (black)
Hirpus - Nirguna (http://youtu.be/fG62__jDFII) (black)
Dominion Caligula - In Love With The Gods (http://youtu.be/TUz3_tinwfI) (death/doom/black)
Exordium Mors - Unleash Prometheus (http://youtu.be/3E5Gk4kd7CE) (black/thrash)
Neron Kaisar - Mother Of The Beast (http://youtu.be/igHo2tn3AA8) (black)

Greek
Tales Of Medusa - The Fatal Wounding Gaze (http://youtu.be/k0q87QNC7O8) (heavy)
Nekromentheon - Rise, Vulcan Spectre (http://youtu.be/nRLwCBWemi8) (thrash)
Däng - Tartarus: The Darkest Realms (http://youtu.be/wGjlqdpK12Q) (heavy/doom/rock)
Validor - Hear Me Thor (http://youtu.be/fs2hz5vZQGU) (folk/power)
Axe Battler - The Wrath of My Steel (http://youtu.be/6FLNBuooigM) (heavy)
Wrathblade - Dolorous Shock (http://youtu.be/H-FoudNqwgg) (heavy)
Be'lakor - Of Breath And Bone (http://youtu.be/EQH2jeBZMQc) (melodic death)
The Elysian Fields - All Those Tristful Winters (http://youtu.be/LWI4ynNTyME) (melodic black)
Kronos - Phaeton (http://youtu.be/IGQAEgS3dOU) (death)
Athlos - The Dance Of Kouretes (http://youtu.be/K2SsYnyuuaQ) (heavy/black/folk)

Exactly how much the lyrics focus on Greek/Roman themes I didn't check, just that they did make significant use of it for lyrical content.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Mor Ephrem on April 11, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
Exordium Mors

Now that sounds cool. 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 11, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
Exordium Mors

Now that sounds cool. 

Find your middle name, perhaps?  :P
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Mor Ephrem on April 11, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
My initials would be MEE. 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 11, 2014, 09:57:30 PM
Exactly how much the lyrics focus on Greek/Roman themes I didn't check, just that they did make significant use of it for lyrical content.

Sorry for the confusing way I phrased this. What I meant was that I know these bands use a good amount of Greek and Roman themes in their music, but I don't know if it's just in a few songs each album or if that's the theme for all the songs.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 11, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
My initials would be MEE. 

Have the courage to be confident and proud! You go ahead and say 'MEE' with boldness!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 12, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
2014...

Ea - A Etilla - (funeral doom from Russia; full album (http://youtu.be/-IGnXekOibE))
Skogen - I Doden (black metal from Sweden; full album (http://youtu.be/sog1bTY8GEo))
Waldgeflüster - Meine Fesseln (black metal from Germany; sample (http://youtu.be/N5dKMiiYeuc))
Dauden i Mørke - Cold Miasmic Domain (black metal from the US; sample (http://youtu.be/vWDYBd8miRs))
Graveborne - Through The Window Of The Night (black metal from Finland; sample (http://youtu.be/b4qwmof2pGE))
Descend - Wither (melodic death metal from Sweden; sample (http://youtu.be/J64ylbx2gCw))
Stilla - Ensamhetens Andar (atmospheric black metal from Sweden; sample (http://youtu.be/tkD3Uhr-oKw))
Svarttjern - Ultimatum Necrophilia (black metal from Norway; sample (http://youtu.be/_G7LY-UNRz4))
Nebelung - Palingenesis (dark acoustic from Germany; sample (http://youtu.be/UU4VtPTXGcY))
The Wounded Kings - Consolamentum - (doom metal from the UK; sample (http://youtu.be/piPzRmk8I6A))
Haeres - Trom (black metal from Canada; sample (http://youtu.be/nRB0FlpWs40))
Kuolemanlaakso - Tulijoutsen (death/doom/black metal from Finland; sample (http://youtu.be/Ik9E3MG7kQc))
Ancient Ascendant - Echoes and Cinder (melodic/death/black metal from the UK; sample (http://youtu.be/mJm3J80l40k))
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 13, 2014, 03:17:33 PM
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Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 25, 2014, 01:40:47 PM
(http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97759_g266_1-knife2.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on April 25, 2014, 02:41:54 PM
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And timeless...
(http://s28.postimg.org/7ogi2pc1p/Trinity_hand_sign_jpeg.png) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/)
 ;)



Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: vamrat on April 25, 2014, 03:05:47 PM
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10175973_270600999767759_7209454506775484170_n.jpg)

Where's the '80's with the extended middle finger or the punk scene?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on April 25, 2014, 04:35:15 PM
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10175973_270600999767759_7209454506775484170_n.jpg)

Where's the '80's with the extended middle finger or the punk scene?

It's actually a two finger backwards peace sign. The true "middle finger" salute of all legit punks of that era.

(http://s29.postimg.org/er8fmu24n/punk_salute_jpeg.png) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/)

Selam
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Mor Ephrem on April 25, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
(http://s29.postimg.org/er8fmu24n/punk_salute_jpeg.png) (http://postimage.org/)
 (http://postimage.org/)

Selam

I feel like I've seen him before...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 29, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
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Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on May 09, 2014, 03:50:38 AM
Now that more important matters are taken care of (and he is staying in jail a while)...

As I Lay Dying (http://asilaydying.com/)

"A good starting point is to clarify some things that have often been falsely reported. Tim was not a Christian at the time of his arrest, nor was As I Lay Dying a Christian band in 2013. It hadn't been for some time and, to the best of my knowledge, only one of the people playing in the band even claimed to be a Christian at that time..."

You skipped the hopeful part:

Quote
Tim has spent much of the last year reevaluating what originally convinced him to abandon belief in God. I have gathered that after much brokenness and repentance he sees things differently, considers himself a follower of Jesus, someone submitted to the will of God, or whatever you want to call it. That’s for him to talk about when he’s comfortable and only time will tell if he is sincere.

Source (http://www.theprp.com/2014/04/09/news/as-i-lay-dying-officially-on-hiatus-band-members-confirm-new-projects/)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on May 09, 2014, 04:02:56 AM
True, I did not quote that particular part written by Tim in the third person so that it sounded like someone else talking about Tim rather than Tim talking about himself while pretending to not be Tim and sabotaging the efforts of his former bandmates. But the statement is only what Tim has 'gathered' about Tim, presumably from talking with Tim, and Tim will wait to see if Tim is sincere.  :D
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on May 16, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
As I Lay Dying’s Tim Lambesis Sentenced to Six Years in Prison (http://loudwire.com/as-i-lay-dying-tim-lambesis-sentenced-six-years-prison/)

As I Lay Dying vocalist Tim Lambesis has been sentenced to six years in prison for attempting to hire a hitman to murder his estranged wife. The sentence was handed down earlier today (May 16) by Judge Carlos Armour of the San Diego Superior Court.

In February, Lambesis pleaded guilty to murder-for-hire charges. He was originally slated to be sentenced on May 2, but the hearing was delayed until today. Lambesis faced up to nine years in prison, but was given six during today’s sentencing...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 25, 2014, 08:43:16 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10537115_606883209425075_7937998073632242479_n.jpg?oh=3ce36ee9a95de278fa0d8fc57a21931a&oe=5451D839&__gda__=1412805505_dfbab786ab98d3a74ca62622206bfa16)

https://www.facebook.com/ErwinJonkmanFotografie
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on August 20, 2014, 08:36:14 AM
I knew Marty Friedman was a thin guy, but this is...

(http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/marty_vince-620x465.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on August 20, 2014, 09:02:39 AM
I knew Marty Friedman was a thin guy, but this is...

...admirable, especially considering he's in his 50s.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 07, 2014, 05:39:49 PM
So the new Opeth album, Pale Communion, is getting a much better response than Heritage. Does this mean that Mikael will finally admit that not all metalheads are narrow-minded losers, and that many people didn't like his last album simply because the music wasn't very good? Will he also come to terms with the fact that he has fallen into the mindset that many people do as they age, thinking that 'the music isn't as good as it used to be' and 'none of the new stuff is any good' and so forth, when the reality is that it isn't the genre that has significantly changed but rather the listener/criticizer?

Oh, and I agree that, while it has its issues, Pale Communion is much better.  8)


EDIT--Removed an apostrophe from a word where it didn't belong...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on September 07, 2014, 05:45:08 PM
I really like Pale Communion. Then again, I also really like Yes and Genesis, which I feel Opeth is channeling in full force this time around (even moreso than in Heritage).
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on September 07, 2014, 05:56:50 PM
I've listened to the new Empyrium album, The Turn of the Tides, once so far. I was very disappointed. I'll give it another try, though (I didn't immediately warm up to Weiland.)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on September 19, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
New stuff (2014 albums) that I've been listening to...

Tempel - On the Steps of the Temple (United States; instrumental, doomy/heavy-post-metaly; sample (http://youtu.be/emp1Ocl5VCo))
Svarttjern - Ultimatum Necrophilia (Norway; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/_G7LY-UNRz4))
Infestus - The Reflecting Void (Germany; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/u-MsjGupsYk))
Skogen - I döden (Sweden; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/35iLV_tZw2M))
Ancient Ascendant - Echoes And Cinder (England; a genre metal medley; sample (http://youtu.be/qS1REmIzCHM))
Kuolemanlaakso - Tulijoutsen (Finland; death/doom metal; sample (http://youtu.be/Yruj9PQMLXU))
Descend - Wither (Sweden; progressive/melodic death metal; sample (http://youtu.be/J64ylbx2gCw))
Mastodon - Once More 'Round the Sun (United States; they are what they are; sample (http://youtu.be/mGTyXCb8lb4))
Vredehammer - Vinteroffer (Norway; black/death metal; sample (http://youtu.be/mxB5MDiwDMY))
Morbus Chron - Sweven (Sweden; hmm...; sample (http://youtu.be/rZB9jkP2ROU))
Opeth - Pale Communion (Sweden; progressive rock; sample (http://youtu.be/CoW3Sywb5xQ))
Agalloch - The Serpent & the Sphere (United States; atmospheric/doom metal; sample (http://youtu.be/czl1kemvgNs))
Mourning Dawn - Les Sacrifiés (France; doom/black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/ly4HQ44WjDo))
The Wounded Kings - Consolamentum (England; doom metal; sample (http://youtu.be/piPzRmk8I6A))
Pripjat - Sons Of Tschernobyl (Germany; speed/thrashy metal; sample (http://youtu.be/pRABIBF-mm8))
Iskald - Nedom og Nord (Norway; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/dwOMmRsvwGg))
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on September 19, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
We've got only a few months until your 'best of the year' list. :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 03, 2014, 09:38:49 PM
Names For Orthodox Metal Bands
(And yes, they are mostly meant to be jokes or campy and corny. :angel: )

Give Me A Word
Theosisica
Theotokos Alive
A Fiery Penance
Gates of Hades
Neverpope
The Photius Cult
1054
Ascesis
Death to Passions
Florilegium
Fist of Nicholas
Deificationist
Image of the Image
Epiphanical
Word of the Martyr
Destroy the Liar
Betrayal at Florence
Tears of Grace
In Joyful Sorrow
Bane of Luther
Roots of Evil
Praxis of Power
Ages of Russia Past
Sacred Rites
Mark the Ephesian Lion
Theanthropos Rising
Relics of Chrysostom
Mysterion
This Sojourner Lives
Vatican Slayer
Blood of the Apostates
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Mor Ephrem on October 03, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
Florilegium
Fist of Nicholas

My favourites.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on October 03, 2014, 11:04:56 PM
If you're into traditional heavy metal, the new Accept album Blind Rage is very quality. Check out the single Stampede.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on October 03, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
Morbus Chron - Sweven (Sweden; hmm...; sample (http://youtu.be/rZB9jkP2ROU))

This. Morbus Chron are gods.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on October 06, 2014, 12:30:37 AM
Exodus has a new album coming out and they are back on top! They have Steve Souza back on vocals and he is killing it.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on October 06, 2014, 12:31:44 AM
Exodus has a new album coming out and they are back on top! They have Steve Souza back on vocals and he is killing it.

Yay!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 24, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
Anyone who enjoys black metal might get a kick out of these surf-rock covers of various black metal classics:

The Emperors- I Am the Surf Wizards (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QLxdNqMXBM)
The Darkthrones- Californian Hunger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC3QnAcBsbg)
The Mayhems- Surfin' Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZAraJrlM5I)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 24, 2014, 08:17:29 PM
The Wounded Kings - Consolamentum (England; doom metal; sample (http://youtu.be/piPzRmk8I6A))

I finally got around to listening to this. It's a solid album, but my initial feeling is that it doesn't quite match up to The Shadow Over Atlantis. I definitely need to give it a few more spins though.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: charbelkaleab on October 24, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 24, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: charbelkaleab on October 25, 2014, 09:01:00 AM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.

I didn't mean it like that. I don't think it's Satanic just giving my opinion that I think it's not wonderful to my ears.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 25, 2014, 10:34:21 AM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.

Yeah, seriously, this is a real game changer, man.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RobS on October 25, 2014, 11:00:43 AM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.

Yeah, seriously, this is a real game changer, man.
The final word on metal is this exceptional article:

Metal (Warning: Language)
http://www.somethingawful.com/your-band-sucks/metal/
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on October 25, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.

Yeah, seriously, this is a real game changer, man.
The final word on metal is this exceptional article:

Metal (Warning: Language)
http://www.somethingawful.com/your-band-sucks/metal/

You went through all that? Wow. You can definitely feel validated as a human being now.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 25, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
Both (metal& rock) are terrible.

Oh, really? Darn. Well that kinda stinks. Why didn't you tell me this before I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the abilities to shriek and shred? Bad form on your part to not say something sooner, to be honest.

Yeah, seriously, this is a real game changer, man.
The final word on metal is this exceptional article:

Metal (Warning: Language)
http://www.somethingawful.com/your-band-sucks/metal/

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091222041312/uncyclopedia/images/archive/7/74/20091222041928!Immortal.gif)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 18, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
(http://i0.wp.com/www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Immortal-Oranges.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on November 18, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
Immortal really are the gift that keeps on giving
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 12, 2014, 12:31:06 AM
Here's a list of my favorite music released this year...

Haeres - Trom (Canada; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/nRB0FlpWs40))
Ancient Ascendant - Echoes And Cinder (England; various metals; sample (http://youtu.be/qS1REmIzCHM))
Opeth - Pale Communion (Sweden; progressive rock; sample (http://youtu.be/CoW3Sywb5xQ))
Marty Friedman - Inferno (Japan; progressive rock/shred; sample (http://youtu.be/mV_jIV_SEbM))
Morbus Chron - Sweven (Sweden; hmm...; sample (http://youtu.be/rZB9jkP2ROU))
Tempel - On the Steps of the Temple (United States; instrumental, doomy/heavy-post-metaly; sample (http://youtu.be/emp1Ocl5VCo))
Svarttjern - Ultimatum Necrophilia (Norway; black metal; sample (http://youtu.be/_G7LY-UNRz4))
Agalloch - The Serpent & the Sphere (United States; atmospheric/doom metal; sample (http://youtu.be/czl1kemvgNs))
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 12, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
Immortal really are the gift that keeps on giving

Immortal Members Sue Each Other Over The Rights To The Band Name (http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just-business/immortal-members-sue-each-other-over-the-rights-to-the-band-name)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on December 12, 2014, 01:15:55 AM
Here's a list of my favorite music released this year...

This has been a great year, really almost too much to keep up with:

2014 Metal Albums That I Enjoyed

Accept - Blind Rage
Algebra - Feed The Ego
Bloodwork - World Without End
Cannibal Corpse - A Skeletal Domain
Corpsessed - Abysmal Thresholds
Dead Congregation - Promulgation Of The Fall
Domains - Sinister Ceremonies
Emptiness - Nothing But The Whole
Gravehill - Death Curse
Incantation - Dirges of Elysium
Kriegsmaschine - Enemy Of Man
Lvcifyre - Sun Eater
Mayhem - Esoteric Warfare
Morbus Chron - Sweven
Mortuus - Grape Of The Vine
Omnivore - Omnivore
Overcharge - Accelerate
Overkill - White Devil Armory
Reverorum ib Malacht - De Mysteriis Dom Christi
Rude - Soul Recall
Sabbatory - Endless Asphyxiating Gloom
Sargeist - Feed The Crawling Shadows
Shards Of Humanity - Fractured Frequencies
Shroud of the Heretic - Revelations in Alchemy
Sinbreed - Shadows
Teitanblood - Death
Trench Rot - Necronomic Warfare
Triptykon - Melana Chasmata
Vader - Tibi Et Igni
Zoldier Noiz - Regression Process

-

Stuff I haven’t really checked out yet but am interested in:

Anguish - Mountain
Arkona - Yav
Artificial Brain - Labyrinth Constellation
Autopsy - Tourniquets, Hacksaws, and Graves
Besatt - Nine Sins
Cannabis Corpse -  From Wisdom To Baked
Diocletian - Gesundrian
Horrendous - Ecdysis
Iron Reagan - The Tyranny Of Will
Nightbringer - Ego Dominus Tuus
Rigor Mortis - Slaves To The Grave
Swallowed - Lunarterial
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 13, 2014, 12:51:35 PM
I've been listening or re-listening to a lot of stuff, though none of it is especially new.

Sodom- Persecution Mania, Agent Orange
Place of Skulls- With Vision
Morbid Saint- Spectrum of Death
Annihilator- Alice in Hell
Grief- Come to Grief
Nuclear Assault- Handle with Care
Sepultura- Arise, Beneath the Remains
Testament- New Order
Saint Vitus- Die Healing
Kreator- Extreme Aggression, Coma of Souls
Subrosa- No Help for the Mighty Ones
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on December 13, 2014, 01:28:57 PM
Just got the 'new' Obituary album the other day. I like death metal only if I can sort of understand the singing. I don't go for 'boar core.'  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on December 16, 2014, 09:38:32 PM
Just got the 'new' Obituary album the other day. I like death metal only if I can sort of understand the singing. I don't go for 'boar core.'  :)

Only their first two albums are worthwhile.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rhinosaur on December 16, 2014, 10:42:50 PM
I just discovered these guys.  This is probably the most righteous instrumental rock album I've ever listened to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWMwcSXxALY
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on December 16, 2014, 11:06:12 PM
Here are the metal albums I listened to this year that I really liked; mostly Atmospheric Black Metal:

Agalloch - The Serpent & the Sphere
Alcest - Shelter
Atlas Moth - The Old Believer
Fen - Carrion Skies
Falls of Rauros - Believe in No Coming Shore
Panopticon - Roads of the North
Woods of Desolation - As The Stars
Wildernessking - The Devil Within
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rhinosaur on February 13, 2015, 08:40:20 PM
New Nightwish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPonioDYnoY
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on February 14, 2015, 08:50:36 AM
3-disc album version preordered! #squeeeeee
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 15, 2015, 06:26:09 PM
(http://wsm.serpent.pl/sklep/okladki/okl_okl_36211.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: lovesupreme on March 21, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
The new Enslaved album is really good. Not quite as good as RIITIIR, but still really darn good.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on March 26, 2015, 05:27:36 PM
News and Notes on 2014 RIAA Music Industry Shipment and Revenue Statistics (http://riaa.com/media/D1F4E3E8-D3E0-FCEE-BB55-FD8B35BC8785.pdf) (pdf)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 01, 2015, 07:15:20 PM
Polish Traffic Circle Renamed "Jeff Hanneman Circle Pit" In Honor of the Late Slayer Guitarist (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/polish-traffic-circle-renamed-jeff-hanneman-circle-pit-in-honor-of-the-late-slayer-guitarist)

...A traffic circle in Jaworzno, a small city in Poland has been renamed the Jeff Hanneman Circle Pit in honor of the late Slayer guitarist...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 06, 2015, 06:34:19 AM
How can someone who grew up in Southern California and has lived in Arizona for the past two decades look so pasty white? I sympathise as I have the same affliction, but is there really no cure?  :-\

(http://i2.wp.com/www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/KikoLoureiro-DaveMustaine.jpg?fit=750%2C1000)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 14, 2015, 11:22:37 AM
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Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on April 14, 2015, 11:30:49 AM
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/11159524_1126725094020396_2943876288350947165_n.png?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=ed97d80693524a37fd3e6242c2f49c73&oe=55AB9B70&__gda__=1437281531_15d405365cd345c75c1bb4670ecc0832)

Yes!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on April 14, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
The University Of Helsinki Now Offers A Class On The History Of Metal (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/metal-science/university-of-helsinki-offers-a-class-on-the-history-of-metal)

"The students will appreciate the importance of Heavy Metal music in western musical culture, its historical development and the characteristics of the subculture related to the music. This subculture is particularly strong in Finland, and Finnish HM is recognised worldwide as a key manifestation of this musical style. The students will also achieve competences in music critique, musical theory, the sociology of music, music semiotics and cultural studies. Furthermore, the course gives them a solid basis to critically understand popular music genres other than HM."

Read that? These students will appreciate the importance of Heavy metal music in western musical culture. It cannot be questioned or denied that this will happen. And wimps and posers are required to leave the hall drop the course.

 :P
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on April 14, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
Another reason to move to Finland.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Minnesotan on April 29, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
The Who's "I'm A Boy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgOyqdN2SaE)" was eerily prophetic....it described the Stocker family (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391772/Storm-Stocker-As-gender-experiment-provokes-outrage-poor-childs-future.html) and their mindset over 40 years early.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: NoahB on May 23, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Delete
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on June 05, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
There be bass there...

http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/metal-science/science-says-bassists-are-way-more-important-than-you-think
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on June 05, 2015, 10:02:21 PM
Here are the metal albums I listened to this year that I really liked; mostly Atmospheric Black Metal:
...
Alcest - Shelter

I love Shelter but I would say it's pure shoegaze now, there is nothing remotely metallic about it.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on June 05, 2015, 10:03:42 PM
I've been enjoying Electric Wizard's Dopethrone. I'd previously tried to get into it and the insane heaviness/ claustrophobia of it actually made me a little nauseous. For some reason I enjoy it much more now.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on June 23, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
Madness of Sorrow, goth rock from Italy...

Is this the famous Italian fashion I hear about?  :P

(http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540357356_photo.jpg?2821)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: NoahB on June 23, 2015, 09:15:19 PM
I've been enjoying Electric Wizard's Dopethrone. I'd previously tried to get into it and the insane heaviness/ claustrophobia of it actually made me a little nauseous. For some reason I enjoy it much more now.

Have you tried "Dopesmoker" by Sleep?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TheTrisagion on June 23, 2015, 09:17:42 PM
Madness of Sorrow, goth rock from Italy...

Is this the famous Italian fashion I hear about?  :P

(http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540357356_photo.jpg?2821)
I'm pretty sure those are extras from The Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on June 23, 2015, 09:23:40 PM
Just got the new Armored Saint record. Haven't heard it yet.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on June 23, 2015, 10:51:39 PM
I've been enjoying Electric Wizard's Dopethrone. I'd previously tried to get into it and the insane heaviness/ claustrophobia of it actually made me a little nauseous. For some reason I enjoy it much more now.

Have you tried "Dopesmoker" by Sleep?

Yes. I like it a lot. Naturally though I listen more often to Holy Mountain.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on June 23, 2015, 11:19:49 PM
Just got the new Armored Saint record. Haven't heard it yet.

They're still around?  Will wonders never cease?

I was amazed a few weeks ago when I saw that Saxon was the opening act for Judas Priest!
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on June 24, 2015, 12:19:30 AM
Just got the new Armored Saint record. Haven't heard it yet.

They're still around?  Will wonders never cease?

I was amazed a few weeks ago when I saw that Saxon was the opening act for Judas Priest!

Cool! :)

Just heard most of the new Helloween record tonight. It's good.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on June 24, 2015, 12:39:45 AM
Just got the new Armored Saint record. Haven't heard it yet.

They're still around?  Will wonders never cease?

I was amazed a few weeks ago when I saw that Saxon was the opening act for Judas Priest!

Cool! :)

Just heard most of the new Helloween record tonight. It's good.

Ive been getting back into Helloween myself. Been listening to Rabbit Dont Come Easy. 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on June 25, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
Albums put out this year that I've enjoyed (enough to post about them)...

Shape of Despair – Monotony Fields (Finland; atmospheric funeral doom; sample (https://youtu.be/mXi8RyAkUg4))
Tempel – The Moon Lit Our Path (United States; instrumental doom/progressive; sample (https://youtu.be/Uj-yKlYDNRY))
Karyn Crisis’ Gospel of the Witches – Salem’s Wounds (United States; heavy/doom; sample (https://youtu.be/1wdHUd18ktc))
Izah – Sistere (Netherlands; atmospheric sludge/progressive; sample (https://youtu.be/ytNF7dqg-SA))
Galar - De gjenlevende (Norway; melodic black; sample (https://youtu.be/mmD5EJzHP58))
Frosthelm – The Endless Winter (United States; black/thrash; sample (https://youtu.be/8OqNpT8oZPE))
Helrunar -  Niederkunfft (Germany; black; sample (https://youtu.be/tijedwkJ_64))
Sacral Rage – Illusions in Infinite Void (Greece; speed/heavy; sample (https://youtu.be/NUglrgjPhuA))

Those first two in particular.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on June 25, 2015, 03:26:45 PM
Just got the new Armored Saint record. Haven't heard it yet.

They're still around?  Will wonders never cease?

I was amazed a few weeks ago when I saw that Saxon was the opening act for Judas Priest!

Cool! :)

Just heard most of the new Helloween record tonight. It's good.

Ive been getting back into Helloween myself. Been listening to Rabbit Dont Come Easy.

I sang "Future World" karaoke at the last New Year's party. I dare say I killed it.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on June 25, 2015, 04:34:19 PM
Footage? :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on June 26, 2015, 09:29:07 PM
I forgot one on my list:

Carach Angren - This is no Fairytale
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 11, 2015, 04:40:11 AM
(http://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/2/1/5/521593.jpg?4526)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on July 12, 2015, 07:22:02 AM
I've been listening to Kvelertak lately. It is a Norwegian band combining HC and some BM elements. I haven't heard that kind of mix before.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on July 12, 2015, 07:49:29 AM
I love the new Kamelot album. They're doing just fine without Roy Khan. :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 21, 2015, 03:33:17 AM
lolyeah

http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/every-yeah-metallicas-james-hetfield-ever-sang-spliced-together-by-internet-hero
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on August 07, 2015, 09:43:12 PM
I ended up buying the new Lamb of God album, VII: Sturm und Drang. I'm not sure why I keep an eye on these guys, as I don't really like most of their guitar riffs, and I don't particularly care for Blythe's vocals (which seem repetitive and lacking in variety--though perhaps that has to do with not being a big fan of that vocal style generally). Maybe it's because I enjoyed their DVDs. Or maybe because you can't visit a metal news site and not see stories about them all the time. I dunno.

Anyway, so I don't think the new album is too bad. I guess if I liked the style of music  in general more I'd probably think it was pretty good. There's still repetition, at least to my ears, but they do seem like they want to try to range out... very slightly anyway. In this particular case, Randy does some clean vocals, and there are guest vocals by two other people, which adds at least a bit of variety to the music. People seem pretty evenly divided on the single Overlord (https://youtu.be/RNRsvFsY9qk), but it's probably my favorite song by them at this point. I also find myself hitting 'back' when 512 (https://youtu.be/dulxbKkj9Wg) ends so that I can listen to it a second time.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on August 07, 2015, 09:47:25 PM
I ended up buying the new Lamb of God album, VII: Sturm und Drang. I'm not sure why I keep an eye on these guys, as I don't really like most of their guitar riffs, and I don't particularly care for Blythe's vocals (which seem repetitive and lacking in variety--though perhaps that has to do with not being a big fan of that vocal style generally). Maybe it's because I enjoyed their DVDs. Or maybe because you can't visit a metal news site and not see stories about them all the time. I dunno.

Anyway, so I don't think the new album is too bad. I guess if I liked the style of music  in general more I'd probably think it was pretty good. There's still repetition, at least to my ears, but they do seem like they want to try to range out... very slightly anyway. In this particular case, Randy does some clean vocals, and there are guest vocals by two other people, which adds at least a bit of variety to the music. People seem pretty evenly divided on the single Overlord (https://youtu.be/RNRsvFsY9qk), but it's probably my favorite song by them at this point. I also find myself hitting 'back' when 512 (https://youtu.be/dulxbKkj9Wg) ends so that I can listen to it a second time.

I remember when their first album, Ashes of the Wake, came out.  My friend and guitarist of the band I was in purchased it and I remember we listened to it once in the car on a long road trip.  My first impressions were that this was one of the worst mixed albums I have ever heard.  A kid could do better.  However, I thought there was some real genius behind what they were doing.  I went to see them in concert and they played with an intensity I rarely saw and the people who were die hard fans definitely bought into that.  I haven't really listened to them for years, but I'll give the new single a listen.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on August 10, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
Apparently there is a band called 'Gaytheist,' and one of the genre tags for them at last.fm is 'queercore.' Crazy kids middle-aged dudes these days, eh?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TheTrisagion on August 10, 2015, 06:55:26 PM
Apparently there is a band called 'Gaytheist,' and one of the genre tags for them at last.fm is 'queercore.' Crazy kids middle-aged dudes these days, eh?
Does this mean they don't believe that gays exist or are they merely expressing their joy of theism?  :D
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rhinosaur on August 10, 2015, 08:04:41 PM
If I'm not mistaken, queercore is actually more connected to post-hardcore, which is a punk subgenre.  And it is a mostly young people scene.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 17, 2015, 01:35:16 AM
Favorite albums from this year...

97   Draug - Demo (Norway, black)
92   Desolate Shrine - The Heart of the Netherworld (Finland, death)
91   Grima - Devotion to Lord (Russia, atmospheric black)
89   Carach Angren - This is No Fairy Tale (Netherlands, symphonic black)
88   Mgla - Exercises in Futility (Poland, black)
88   Raventale - Dark Substance of Dharma (Ukraine, black/doom)
87   Wardaemonic - Obsequium (Australia, black)
86   Drudkh - A Furrow Cut Short (Ukraine, black)
86   Karyn Crisis’ Gospel of the Witches – Salem’s Wounds (United States, heavy/doom)
84   Tempel – The Moon Lit Our Path (United States, instrumental doom)
82   Blood Incantation - Interdimensional Extinction EP (United States, death)
82   Visigoth - Revenant King (United States, power/heavy)
81   Obsequiae - Aria Of Vernal Tombs (United States, black)
80   Vargsang - In the Mist of Night (Germany, black)

For the first ~13 years that I listened to metal I hated black and death metal, and growling/shrieking/squealing vocals in general. 10 years later... 8)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 17, 2015, 07:22:21 AM
81   Obsequiae - Aria Of Vernal Tombs (United States, black)

+1

I love both of their albums. A lot of black metal bands take influence from medieval music but with Obsequiae it's much more thorough and profound. Some of the melodies reminded me immediately of Dufay or Machaut.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 24, 2015, 12:13:51 AM
"Today there is more interest than ever in Easy Listening Satanic Music, as a simple search on Google will inform you." (Easy Listening Satanic (http://deletedwikipedia.gawker-labs.com/wiki/Easy_Listening_Satanic#_ga=1.43216867.77033145.1444449145))
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 24, 2015, 10:05:46 AM
"Today there is more interest than ever in Easy Listening Satanic Music, as a simple search on Google will inform you." (Easy Listening Satanic (http://deletedwikipedia.gawker-labs.com/wiki/Easy_Listening_Satanic#_ga=1.43216867.77033145.1444449145))

I thought the incarnate demon known as T'Aailorr Zvifft had that covered.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Timon on December 30, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
Just picked up the new album Purple from Baroness. Highly recommend.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Alpo on January 14, 2016, 04:06:04 PM
In case you wondered high suicide rates of Finland:

Varokaa heikkoja jäitä
https://youtu.be/Rc08St1whsc

This is how we raise our children.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rohzek on January 21, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
Anyone here a fan of Within Temptation? They're symphonic metal band from the Netherlands, although their latest album has less of the symphonic quality that they are known for. They are one of the few newer bands that I really enjoy.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TheTrisagion on January 21, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
Rock and Roll is the devil's music. If you play it backwards, you can hear satanic chanting.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on January 21, 2016, 03:46:07 PM
I like Within Temptation well enough, even though Sharon's voice is a bit weaker than I'd like. Together with Nightwish, Epica, Lacuna Coil and Delain, they make a sizeable chunk of my music library. :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 21, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
I've never heard of Within Temptation, but if they belong on a list including Nightwish and Lacuna Coil they must be pretty horrid.

Now, Obsequiae is an awesome band.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on January 21, 2016, 03:57:30 PM
I've never heard of Within Temptation, but if they belong on a list including Nightwish and Lacuna Coil they must be pretty horrid.

Now, Obsequiae is an awesome band.

Yes, we know what kind of metal you like. Eh, whatever. As long as I don't have to listen, they can growl themselves hoarse to their hearts' content.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RobS on January 21, 2016, 04:14:16 PM
Rock music is dead.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on January 21, 2016, 04:17:47 PM
Rock music is dead.

Undead, undead, undead.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RobS on January 21, 2016, 04:20:36 PM
I didn't know Creed and Matchbox 20 have been revived. Hallejuah.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rohzek on January 21, 2016, 04:36:45 PM
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RobS on January 21, 2016, 04:54:43 PM
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
You have the wrong decades for the "golden age". Try 60s and 70s.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on January 21, 2016, 05:13:38 PM
Rock and Roll is the devil's music. If you play it backwards, you can hear satanic chanting.

Fun fact: if you play Ozzy vocals backwards they sound exactly the same ;)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: TheTrisagion on January 21, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
Rock and Roll is the devil's music. If you play it backwards, you can hear satanic chanting.

Fun fact: if you play Ozzy vocals backwards they sound exactly the same ;)
;D
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on January 21, 2016, 05:47:41 PM
Rock and Roll is the devil's music. If you play it backwards, you can hear satanic chanting.

Fun fact: if you play Ozzy vocals backwards they sound exactly the same ;)

And if you go see him in concert, it still sounds out of key.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on January 24, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
The supergroup in heaven is still recruiting. :-\

Bassist Jimmy Bain dies at 68 (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/culture/music/jimmy-bain-scots-musician-with-dio-and-rainbow-dies-at-68-1-4009945)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on January 24, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
The supergroup in heaven is still recruiting. :-\

Bassist Jimmy Bain dies at 68 (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/culture/music/jimmy-bain-scots-musician-with-dio-and-rainbow-dies-at-68-1-4009945)

Oh crap, no.  By no means a great bass player but he played on on a few albums I absolutely love, e.g. Holy Diver, Rainbow: Rising. RIP
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on January 24, 2016, 05:58:37 PM
He was cool. Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: DeniseDenise on January 24, 2016, 11:41:09 PM
Rock music is dead.

Undead, undead, undead.


Serious Bonus points to you! You are now speaking my genre (and related)

Sorry they are late. Had not read the thread in while.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on May 22, 2016, 09:12:53 PM
Megadeth drummer, Nick Menza, who played on such classic albums like Countdown to Extinction, Youthanasia and the monumental, Rust in Peace, died of heart failure at 51.  RIP.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RaphaCam on May 22, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
That's pretty sad, he was awesome. Drummers do some weird things to play hours along on stage.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Volnutt on May 22, 2016, 10:12:04 PM
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
You have the wrong decades for the "golden age". Try 60s and 70s.

You're good people.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on June 08, 2016, 09:52:04 AM
Rock music is dead.

Well, I admit that the golden age is long over, being between the late 80's and around 2006. That being said, some quality rock music is still being made. There's just no longer a center of gravity in the genre anymore to push it as a whole.
You have the wrong decades for the "golden age". Try 60s and 70s.

You're good people.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Rhinosaur on July 13, 2016, 02:51:15 PM
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on July 14, 2016, 11:34:14 AM
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4

I didn't know these guys were still around.  They still suck.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on July 14, 2016, 01:43:27 PM
Never got into them...but they and Life of Agony were supporting Megadeth when I saw them in 98, and it's not like Megadeth was filling venues to capacity in the late 90s, so I suppose in some small way their band/fans made it possible for me to see Friedman/Menza-era Megadeth live, so... *cyber nod of appreciation*
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on July 14, 2016, 02:12:26 PM
Never got into them...but they and Life of Agony were supporting Megadeth when I saw them in 98, and it's not like Megadeth was filling venues to capacity in the late 90s, so I suppose in some small way their band/fans made it possible for me to see Friedman/Menza-era Megadeth live, so... *cyber nod of appreciation*

I liked Life of Agony to a point.

I never saw Megadeth in the late 90s but did for Rust in Peace.  Hands down, one of the best live shows ever.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on July 25, 2016, 11:27:21 AM
Has anyone here checked out the new Coal Chamber that came out last year?  It's not standard nu metal, and is very influenced by Dez's other band Devildriver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85KX5ViH_4

I didn't know these guys were still around.  They still suck.

LOL +1

Right up there with Crazy Town as one of those bands I almost mercifully forgot about.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on July 25, 2016, 11:44:23 AM
Listened to the new Revocation this morning. Was disappointed.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Justin Kolodziej on July 26, 2016, 11:39:29 PM
I only have one thing to say about this thread:You suffer, but why? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGOT4d2Hs8)
They of course still play it, even though nobody on that record is still in the band!

One of the guys who was on that record (Justin K. Broadrick) went on to create maybe my favorite band: jesu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUaf1EhtjD4)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Svartzorn on July 26, 2016, 11:50:47 PM
Steven Wilson's always a good call. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UHwkfhwjsk)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RaphaCam on July 28, 2016, 11:33:52 AM
(https://scontent.fsdu2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13529152_1570227003282397_1074098858066531366_n.jpg?oh=bacc2c808a4a010faa7f09765f0f5b1a&oe=581952CA)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on July 28, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
I only have one thing to say about this thread:You suffer, but why? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGOT4d2Hs8)

I went to a karaoke bar that had this on the database. I... "sang" it three times.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on October 26, 2016, 01:36:22 AM
(http://www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/black-metal-wedding-1-667x1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 26, 2016, 09:51:58 AM
(http://media.chick.com/tractimages67491/0034/0034_14.gif)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Arachne on October 26, 2016, 01:29:17 PM
(http://media.chick.com/tractimages67491/0034/0034_14.gif)

Rest in pieces, Jack. ;D
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 03, 2016, 07:01:45 AM
2016

Hæthen - Shaped by Aeolian Winds
Death Fortress - Deathless March of the Unyielding
Brünndl - Brünndl
Vektor - Terminal Redux
Abbath- Abbath
Yith - Dread
Deitus - Acta Non Verba 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on December 03, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
2016

Hæthen - Shaped by Aeolian Winds


They're not the same as Heathen, are they?  I liked Heathen.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on December 03, 2016, 08:01:56 PM
Nah, different band, this was their debut.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 05, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
Two albums by Suffocation: Human Waste and Breeding the Spawn.

I've forgotten how great this band is and how many miles they were ahead of pretty much any death metal act today.

So far, contrary to popular opinion, I find I really prefer the Human Waste versions of the songs over the ones on later albums. I particularly like the guitar sound they have.

I like Breeding the Spawn but it kind of leaves me cold, a similar feeling I get when I hear free jazz (e.g. Cecil Taylor)- very abstract, emotionless, though mentally intriguing.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on December 15, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
Gorguts- Erosion of Sanity

(http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/0/0/8/3008.jpg?1103)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 13, 2017, 05:58:08 PM
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France (http://www.euronews.com/2013/07/16/neo-nazi-and-black-metal-star-varg-vikernes-arrested-in-france-/)

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.

Good riddance.  I never understood the draw of that guy or his music.

He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: RaphaCam on January 16, 2017, 11:59:09 AM
He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.
Yeah, I kind of see it this way. It's hypnotic, specially Filosofem, which sounds like an LSD bad vibe on a cold forest.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Cognomen on January 16, 2017, 01:59:22 PM
Rock music is dead.

Undead, undead, undead.


Serious Bonus points to you! You are now speaking my genre (and related)

Sorry they are late. Had not read the thread in while.

(http://www.ghetto-rock.com/afbeeldingen/produkten/UNDEAD-the-riot-city-years.jpg)

Speaking of speaking of genres...

And back on topic, I'm following the thread, as someone who never really "got" metal.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 16, 2017, 02:15:59 PM
It's a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre, so there's probably something you would like. If you like punk then a natural point of entry is through early thrash bands like Cryptic Slaughter or DRI, where the sound (and attitude) overlaps considerably with hardcore.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Cognomen on January 16, 2017, 02:33:36 PM
^ That was my inclination as well. Yet even with hardcore, I was always too picky. DRI (and similar) shows were a blast though. Sabbath, Motorhead, and Venom (oddly enough) were the three who emphatically made the "metal" cut.

In any case, there's a lot of stuff in, as you said, a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre. Some interesting bands though, like Obsequiae, Summoning, and such. A guitarist I played with for years was into black metal and related sub-genres. It occasionally bled over into our music, which I wasn't pleased with. That was pretty much the context I knew it from. Distance can be a good thing, and it's fun to check it out on its own merit.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on January 16, 2017, 02:36:53 PM
Neo-nazi and black metal star Varg Vikernes arrested in France (http://www.euronews.com/2013/07/16/neo-nazi-and-black-metal-star-varg-vikernes-arrested-in-france-/)

Not sure which is more oxymoronic: pop punk or black metal star.

Good riddance.  I never understood the draw of that guy or his music.

He is obviously an odious person. Let me try to explain why I love his music though. For me, it reflects perfectly the mindset of a maladjusted, romantic soul that spends an inordinate time thinking about orcs and elves. The music is invariably dark, sad, anguished. It is serious. It is not cool or fun- no wanky solos, no bouncy choruses. Just repetitive, buzzsaw guitar riffs and tormented screeching. Burzum is uniquely hypnotic and, beneath the ugly exterior, extremely beautiful. The music becomes more than the sum of its very primitive parts, drawing a listener onto a different plane. I form pictures in my head, hear stories, dream awake. That's why Burzum is great, regardless of the asinine extracurricular activities and laughable statements emanating from the man.

Same here.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mcarmichael on January 16, 2017, 11:14:22 PM
No, nevermind.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 17, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
^ That was my inclination as well. Yet even with hardcore, I was always too picky. DRI (and similar) shows were a blast though. Sabbath, Motorhead, and Venom (oddly enough) were the three who emphatically made the "metal" cut.

In any case, there's a lot of stuff in, as you said, a big, diverse, and overcrowded genre. Some interesting bands though, like Obsequiae, Summoning, and such. A guitarist I played with for years was into black metal and related sub-genres. It occasionally bled over into our music, which I wasn't pleased with. That was pretty much the context I knew it from. Distance can be a good thing, and it's fun to check it out on its own merit.

Nothing wrong with being picky. You kind of have to be when there are a gajillion bands, mostly mediocre.

If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on January 17, 2017, 03:53:41 PM
On a slightly funny side note, I remember seeing a tweet last year from country singer-songwriter Jason Isbell about how he and Ryan Adams were listening to nonstop Burzum on their road trip together.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Cognomen on January 23, 2017, 10:53:03 PM
If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.

I had a listen, but it was a bit on the thrashy side of things. For some reason, I seem to prefer the "ambient" (did I get that right?) stuff a bit more. I did manage to pick up that first Obsequiae album though. The only song I don't really like is "Arrows," due to the guitar effects that sound... well, metal. I've got a ways to go, but I'm trying and enjoying. Have you heard this fan remix of the first album, Suspended in the Brume of Eos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vumqHmT3Xg8)? Mastering was never my strongpoint (at all), but I think the "fan" did as he described and created an overall closer sounding feel to Arial of Vernal Tombs.

I'm still trying to figure out the differences in genre, because the written descriptions don't seem to match up that well. It's funny, I can usually identify most punk, streetpunk, hardcore (not the later stuff in the oughts that strangely called itself that) etc by era, style, and maybe geographic location quite easily. With this stuff, not so much. 

Oh, and your great explanation of Vikerness makes perfect sense to me. Maybe we shouldn't allow ourselves to be drawn to those type of odious romantic figures, but it is what it is. I didn't know much about Señor Burzum, but there are heaps of somewhat analogous figures in the broader world of subcultural music who fit the bill.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 18, 2017, 02:48:16 PM
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
Megadeth wins grammy, but they play Master of Puppets while they walk to the stage - wtf
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Dominika on February 18, 2017, 02:55:53 PM
New Metallica album - meh
Do you really find all the songs in the album "meh"?
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on February 18, 2017, 03:09:48 PM
Unfortunately, yeah, though I'll admit that I only listened once through (and to the singles a couple more times). I liked Death Magnetic, so it's not just an "I only like old school" thing. Though I'm sure I'll listen to it again at some point, and I've been known to on rare occasion change my mind about things...
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: biro on February 18, 2017, 03:42:31 PM
Just got the new Overkill, Kreator and Testament. Had a strange problem with the Overkill CD. (Yes, I still use CDs.) It seems the titles weren't embedded, or my computer's drive wouldn't read them, and I had to type them in by myself.  :)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Justin Kolodziej on February 18, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
Megadeth wins grammy, but they play Master of Puppets while they walk to the stage - wtf
I'm blaming it on "the house band just learned part of one generic metal song which happened to be written by the eventual winner's arch-nemesis" and not, as Dave Mustaine tweeted, "Aw, you can't blame them for not being able to play Megadeth."
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on February 20, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
Saw Alcest in Philly this past Saturday. Lovely show.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: scamandrius on February 20, 2017, 03:04:13 PM
New Metallica album - meh
New Mastodon singles - meh & ugh
Megadeth wins grammy, but they play Master of Puppets while they walk to the stage - wtf
I'm blaming it on "the house band just learned part of one generic metal song which happened to be written by the eventual winner's arch-nemesis" and not, as Dave Mustaine tweeted, "Aw, you can't blame them for not being able to play Megadeth."

That seemed like another "Jethro Tull" moment in the history of metal at the Grammys.
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Cognomen on March 24, 2017, 07:21:58 PM
If you like Obsequiae you might also like Sacramentum, especially their album Far Away from the Sun.

The album grew on me. Particularly the latter 2/3. I think the blast beats on the first few songs threw me off the scent. I've actually noticed that I don't like a lot of the first tracks of black metal albums, as odd as that may be.

And by the way, I'm totally overwhelmed by the size of the genre. Even delving into the heydays of various other subcultural music genres, I've never encountered so much stuff, so many bands, etc. Onward...   
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on June 23, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
I've just discovered this death metal band, Desecresy, from Finland, and am loving this album. It's reminiscent of early 90's Bolt Thrower in a lot of ways, but comes across as more mystical and cosmic in the atmosphere. Hard to explain. They have a classic sound but manage to be unique.

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/3/7/7/537796.jpg?5918)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: mcarmichael on July 29, 2017, 10:09:40 PM
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - The Closet (Youtube) (https://youtu.be/Flh_dGuRrXw)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on August 21, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
This excellent album came out in July:

(http://en.prophecy.de/out/pictures/generated/product/1/800_600_100/SOTS-ToTheElements.jpg)

Sun of the Sleepless is the solo project of Markus Stock AKA Ulf Theodor Schwadorf, whom some of you might know as a member of Empyrium and the Vision Bleak. While the musical style varies between his bands, they all have a heavily gothic/ romantic atmosphere. So it is no surprise that this album sounds like something Keats, Shelley, and Goethe would make together if they were a black metal band. As the title suggests, the awe of nature is the dominant theme, with folkloric allusions as well. Musically it is a loving and creative tribute to the classic 90's bands like Darkthrone and Emperor, infused with Schwadorf's acoustic breaks and melancholic chants. Schwadorf as also collaborated with the French "blackgaze" bands Alcest and Les Discrets and hints of it rubbing off on him pop up here and there. Highly recommended! 
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Iconodule on October 24, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
In memory of Martin Ain, who passed away this week, I've been listening to Morbid Tales:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/Morbid_Tales_-_Celtic_Frost.jpg/220px-Morbid_Tales_-_Celtic_Frost.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal and Rock Thread
Post by: Asteriktos on November 06, 2017, 09:20:05 PM
Quiz: John Calvin Quote or Metal Lyrics? (https://popularcultureandtheology.com/2017/10/30/quiz-john-calvin-quote-or-metal-lyrics/)