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Title: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 16, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
OK, so most of us have heard of 'The Mancave', a room inside the house, such as the basement or garage or attic or office, or outside the house such as a wood shed or tool room, where "guys can do as they please" without fear of upsetting any female sensibility about house decor or design.  Once upon a time it known as 'The Den' (a name I prefer).  My question is- do any of you married Orthodox have such a place or feel the need for such a place? 
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 16, 2012, 09:44:20 PM
*bump*
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 16, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
OK, so most of us have heard of 'The Mancave', a room inside the house, such as the basement or garage or attic or office, or outside the house such as a wood shed or tool room, where "guys can do as they please" without fear of upsetting any female sensibility about house decor or design.  Once upon a time it known as 'The Den' (a name I prefer).  My question is- do any of you married Orthodox have such a place or feel the need for such a place? 
I'm not sure about feeling the need.  I know my ex thought I had no right to it.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Aindriú on May 16, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
I have a need, but my last mancave became a child's room. Now... I drink.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Maximum Bob on May 16, 2012, 11:15:02 PM
I have a need, but my last mancave became a child's room. Now... I drink.  ;D

 :D Kids took mine too. Hope to get another one ... someday.  :(
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: JamesR on May 16, 2012, 11:17:58 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man. I understand that women can be such a burden when it comes to decorating and furniture, and that the female in the household might want to furnish your mancave according to her taste, but, to be honest, I think that it is worth it. Let her decorate it the way she wants to, all that matters is that you have a quite place where you can escape the rest of the household. I'm not too picky about the room as long as I have a comfortable chair, bookshelf and coffee maker.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 16, 2012, 11:20:10 PM
I have a need, but my last mancave became a child's room. Now... I drink.  ;D

 :D Kids took mine too. Hope to get another one ... someday.  :(
Yeah, the boys got my cave (which their mother was always sticking her nose in before, to complain).  But I still don't drink.  One of the benefits of the divorce.  :P
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Asteriktos on May 16, 2012, 11:25:57 PM
When I was Orthodox and married (good times, good times) I didn't have any particular place my own. I liked being left alone at times during the day, and my wife respected that, so she'd just leave the room for a couple hours (or until I went to wherever she was). I never really had a bunch of guys over to do manly things, so that wasn't a problem. I'm being very unhelpful I suppose.  :angel:

Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Are you saying that all those mancaves I saw built or remodeled on HGTV are now being used... for...    NO, on second thought, don't tell me!

Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Agabus on May 16, 2012, 11:44:28 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man.
Really? I thought I was using it to keep all of my books. I suppose one man's masturbation cave is another man's library?

I did get drunk in there a few times, but some books are meant to be read with a complementary whiskey, especially older, musty volumes.

Alas, though, I gave up my personal space so my daughter could have a bedroom. Such is the white martyrdom of family life.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: dzheremi on May 17, 2012, 12:28:40 AM
I suppose one man's masturbation cave is another man's library

Sig'd. If I have a life motto, it would be is this.

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I did get drunk in there a few times, but some books are meant to be read with a complementary whiskey, especially older, musty volumes.

Walden: You're doin' it wrong.

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Alas, though, I gave up my personal space so my daughter could have a bedroom. Such is the white martyrdom of family life.

Yes...a good Christian sacrifice, befitting of a true father. "Give up your mancave and follow me" and all that...
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Timon on May 17, 2012, 01:02:20 AM
I have a man cave.  Its my little recording studio.  I also have my icon corner in there.  My wife doesnt want me putting icons everywhere in the house.  They arent "cute." 
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: dzheremi on May 17, 2012, 02:03:28 AM
Haha. My friend has a "man cave" that is a little recording studio, too. He's not Orthodox, so no icon corner, but it does feature a dead/fried computer guts corner, for building frankencomputers out of (he's a tech guy at a major medical technology company, so he brings home all kinds of electronics junk that they would otherwise throw out). As far as I can tell, his wife likes it. After all, if all of his instruments and computer junk weren't in there, it'd actually be in the common areas of the house, and then there'd probably be a problem.

(They don't have kids yet, though, so I'm guessing there will be a massive sell-off of a lot of this stuff in a little while...hellllooo, cheap guitar amp!)
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Maximum Bob on May 17, 2012, 02:33:20 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

If you say so I guess, maybe some do but my cave was about a Pepsi collection now in boxes in the basement.

If (when) I reconstitute it the Pepsi stuff will come back, also music: albums and instruments, computers, lots of books, assorted electronics, sofa, easy chairs, a TV, soda machine, fridge, fantasy style posters, the Harley and other motorcycles collection, my colors unless I'm wearing them, and possibly a sword or two or four, and no doubt some Icons.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: akimori makoto on May 17, 2012, 02:51:30 AM
I have a man cave.  Its my little recording studio.  I also have my icon corner in there.  My wife doesnt want me putting icons everywhere in the house.  They arent "cute." 

Would she prefer:

(http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/hello-kitty-shrine.jpg)

?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 17, 2012, 07:29:04 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man.
Really? I thought I was using it to keep all of my books. I suppose one man's masturbation cave is another man's library?

I did get drunk in there a few times, but some books are meant to be read with a complementary whiskey, especially older, musty volumes.

Alas, though, I gave up my personal space so my daughter could have a bedroom. Such is the white martyrdom of family life.
LOL. Sounds like my old one.  Including the library...instead of other things...

But I only drank coffee in it, my drug abuse of choice.

Though JamesR's description seems to be what many women think goes on in a mancave...they seem to be very suspicious...makes me wonder what they would do with a womancave if they didn't have total run of the whole house.

St. Paul seems to have left that warning out.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: jmbejdl on May 17, 2012, 08:11:18 AM
I've never had one and never wanted one. I've never understood the reasoning behind things like 'man-caves' or 'boys' nights out' (or girls' for that matter). I realise that I appear to be in a tiny minority amongst the male population but there genuinely is nobody I'd rather spend my time with than my wife and we really share everything (well in so far as it's possible to). That's what I always felt marriage should be about and, thanks to God, for me it is. And I'm not recently married either - we'll have our 11th anniversary in couple of months.

James
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Mivac on May 17, 2012, 08:45:01 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man.
Really? I thought I was using it to keep all of my books. I suppose one man's masturbation cave is another man's library?

I did get drunk in there a few times, but some books are meant to be read with a complementary whiskey, especially older, musty volumes.

Alas, though, I gave up my personal space so my daughter could have a bedroom. Such is the white martyrdom of family life.
LOL. Sounds like my old one.  Including the library...instead of other things...

But I only drank coffee in it, my drug abuse of choice.

Though JamesR's description seems to be what many women think goes on in a mancave...they seem to be very suspicious...makes me wonder what they would do with a womancave if they didn't have total run of the whole house.

St. Paul seems to have left that warning out.

The womancave is the mancave taken over by the woman for her crafting supplies.  (special note: half the garage is crafting supplies)
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Timon on May 17, 2012, 09:04:16 AM
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The womancave is the mancave taken over by the woman for her crafting supplies.


Yes.  My wife was really into sewing and making pillows for a while.  My studio looked nice until there was girly fabric, pins and needles, thread, etc. laying around.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: KBN1 on May 17, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
My whole life is a mancave.   :'(
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: NicholasMyra on May 17, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.
Dude...
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: DavidH on May 17, 2012, 10:36:05 AM
"The womancave is the mancave taken over by the woman for her crafting supplies.  (special note: half the garage is crafting supplies)"

Sweet Holy Moses, is nothing sacred these days?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: DavidH on May 17, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.
Dude...

A proper Orthodox Mancave is refreshingly low brow while remaining deified.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Schultz on May 17, 2012, 10:45:02 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 10:46:17 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man.
Really? I thought I was using it to keep all of my books. I suppose one man's masturbation cave is another man's library?

I did get drunk in there a few times, but some books are meant to be read with a complementary whiskey, especially older, musty volumes.

Alas, though, I gave up my personal space so my daughter could have a bedroom. Such is the white martyrdom of family life.
LOL. Sounds like my old one.  Including the library...instead of other things...

But I only drank coffee in it, my drug abuse of choice.

Though JamesR's description seems to be what many women think goes on in a mancave...they seem to be very suspicious...makes me wonder what they would do with a womancave if they didn't have total run of the whole house.

St. Paul seems to have left that warning out.

LOL. I'm a lady but I'll admit, this did make me laugh.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 17, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Sure they don't.  Just ask them.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on May 17, 2012, 11:34:01 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man.

I assure you, a man cave is necessary for these exact reasons.  When the entire apartment is taken up by the woman's stuff these activities need to find a place to reside...and sometimes the living room becomes the only acceptable option.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Schultz on May 17, 2012, 11:39:34 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Sure they don't.  Just ask them.

We know different women.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: dcommini on May 17, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
My wife actually wants me to have a mancave. And honestly I would prefer to have a place where I can go to relax and smoke my pipe, read, and sip my tea (or other beverage) that has some solitude. Now would I keep my wife and daughter completely out? Never (unless I'm smoking, after which I would vacuum and use an air purifier). I love my family too much to keep them out of my life.

The last few times I had a "mancave" or a den/study I never kept it all to myself, and my wife used it a lot as well since that is where the main computer was.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Schultz on May 17, 2012, 12:11:26 PM
My wife actually wants me to have a mancave. And honestly I would prefer to have a place where I can go to relax and smoke my pipe, read, and sip my tea (or other beverage) that has some solitude. Now would I keep my wife and daughter completely out? Never (unless I'm smoking, after which I would vacuum and use an air purifier). I love my family too much to keep them out of my life.

The last few times I had a "mancave" or a den/study I never kept it all to myself, and my wife used it a lot as well since that is where the main computer was.

I'm pretty much the same way.  At the moment, my "mancave'' is the basement where the laundry gets done as well as where our pantry is (blasted tiny galley kitchens!).  It's where I go to practice my guitar playing and do some home recording, muck about on the computer, and where my "private" icon corner is (which isn't all that private, just where the quietest part of the house is usually).  We moved the fake fireplace from upstairs in the living room down there and it has quite a homely feel to it.  It's very much "my" stuff down there, but it's not "my" mancave.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 17, 2012, 12:22:45 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Sure they don't.  Just ask them.

We know different women.
LOL.  Did the sarcasm get derailed somewhere?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Schultz on May 17, 2012, 12:33:28 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Sure they don't.  Just ask them.

We know different women.
LOL.  Did the sarcasm get derailed somewhere?

What I meant was that the women I'm friends with would probably not lie about it like the women you know ;)
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: JamesR on May 17, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: KBN1 on May 17, 2012, 01:27:41 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

You need to stop watching Desperate Housewives.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Schultz on May 17, 2012, 01:38:21 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

You need to stop watching Desperate Housewives.

That would be a start, but not a complete cure.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: witega on May 17, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Golgotha on May 17, 2012, 01:44:04 PM
I imagine if I get married my hobbies will be confined to a cave. Pipe smoking, large amps/speaker cabinets, Orthodox items, home brew, tea stashes, etc. I'm a bit eccentric  ;D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ialmisry on May 17, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Sure they don't.  Just ask them.

We know different women.
LOL.  Did the sarcasm get derailed somewhere?

What I meant was that the women I'm friends with would probably not lie about it like the women you know ;)
Well then the sarcasm is right on track.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Timon on May 17, 2012, 01:53:18 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Woodford Reserve here.  When im on a budget, I go Evan Williams Black Label.  Dont knock it till you try it. Surprisingly good for $13-$14 for a whole liter.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: witega on May 17, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Well, you're a grown woman, and what you choose to do to your palette in the privacy of your own home is your own business. But James is still young and impressionable so we owe it to him try to set a better example...

:-p
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on May 17, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Don't listen to the naysayers.

BTW, will you marry me?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: dzheremi on May 17, 2012, 02:38:37 PM
She's already married. I know...I too was crushed...a woman who likes Louie CK and whiskey? Of course she's married! Why wouldn't she be? ;D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on May 17, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
She's already married. I know...I too was crushed...a woman who likes Louie CK and whiskey? Of course she's married! Why wouldn't she be? ;D

I thought I'd read that too...but not to worry, once homosexuality gets excepted we'll need a new perversion to push, so perhaps we all can make a push for polyandry!
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Asteriktos on May 17, 2012, 02:55:40 PM
She's already married. I know...I too was crushed...a woman who likes Louie CK and whiskey? Of course she's married! Why wouldn't she be? ;D

I thought I'd read that too...but not to worry, once homosexuality gets excepted we'll need a new perversion to push, so perhaps we all can make a push for polyandry!

Give me open marriage if you will, or make me take up the heavy burden of monogamy if you must, but do not think, good sir, that I would allow you to force a perversion like polyandry on me!
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
You guys crack me up. Alas, yes, I am hitched. I just want you to know that if I ever were to enter into a polyamorous, Internet pseudo-marriage with anyone, it would be with you people.  :D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 03:42:55 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Well, you're a grown woman, and what you choose to do to your palette in the privacy of your own home is your own business. But James is still young and impressionable so we owe it to him try to set a better example...

:-p

What is your whiskey of choice? Jameson?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: TinaG on May 17, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
May I say that I'm all for the mancave, the kidcave and the wifecave, whereever that is, as long as you don't confuse the kitchen or laundry room with a wifecave!  If I could build my husband a deluxe mancave 300 yards from the house I would.  I'm just not convinced that the secret to marital happiness is too much togetherness.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: witega on May 17, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Well, you're a grown woman, and what you choose to do to your palette in the privacy of your own home is your own business. But James is still young and impressionable so we owe it to him try to set a better example...

:-p

What is your whiskey of choice? Jameson?

Macallen 18 ideally. Although I've found that just about anything that starts with a Glen (Glenlivet, Glenfidditch, Glenmorangie) is acceptable.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Red A. on May 17, 2012, 04:15:20 PM
Yes! A man cave is mandatory. Guns. Reloading bench. Rod/reels. Tackle boxes. Tools. Greasy/smelly motorcycle parts. If I move a few things around even a hammock.

Oh yeah...... and spiders. You need a few spiders to keep the girls away.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: ZealousZeal on May 17, 2012, 04:33:10 PM
Yes! A man cave is mandatory. Guns. Reloading bench. Rod/reels. Tackle boxes. Tools. Greasy/smelly motorcycle parts. If I move a few things around even a hammock.

Oh yeah...... and spiders. You need a few spiders to keep the girls away.

You don't actually even need spiders. Simply say that you think you saw a spider, and I'd stay far away.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: KBN1 on May 17, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Don't worry ZZ, you are in the right.  JD is Whiskey.  Now if we were talking about Whisky, it would be an entirely different matter.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on May 17, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.

Because females do not engage in porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness.


Well they gossip and speak ill of other women, so imagine the mancave but replace the men with women and the whiskey with white wine and add the gossiping element and then you have the woman-cave.

Don't let's be silly. Jack on the rocks has been my drink of choice for years. Which isn't to say that I don't like wine (but give me red or give me death), only that I do love whiskey.

Point of clarification: Jack Daniels is to real whiskey as clown masses are to actual worship.

 :D

I was waiting for something like that to pop up. I can't help it, I like Jack.

Well, you're a grown woman, and what you choose to do to your palette in the privacy of your own home is your own business. But James is still young and impressionable so we owe it to him try to set a better example...

:-p

What is your whiskey of choice? Jameson?

Macallen 18 ideally. Although I've found that just about anything that starts with a Glen (Glenlivet, Glenfidditch, Glenmorangie) is acceptable.

The only Scotch I can stomach is Johnny Walker Blue.  For obvious reasons I drink it but rarely. 

Otherwise, Jameson or Michael Collins are good.  I like Irish.

But the queen of Whiskey is Bourbon.  (Even Tennessee whiskey like JD is acceptable.)  I have never turned down Bookers or Knob Creek, and Eagle Rare Reserve is from Heaven.   
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Hiwot on May 17, 2012, 07:29:27 PM
May I say that I'm all for the mancave, the kidcave and the wifecave, whereever that is, as long as you don't confuse the kitchen or laundry room with a wifecave!  If I could build my husband a deluxe mancave 300 yards from the house I would.  I'm just not convinced that the secret to marital happiness is too much togetherness.

hear! hear!  ;D

Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: orthonorm on May 18, 2012, 02:27:04 PM
Anyone who claims to have a "Mancave" and has a problem with homosexuality has enormous identity issues.

Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Punch on May 18, 2012, 07:57:18 PM
Anyone who claims to have a "Mancave" and has a problem with homosexuality has enormous identity issues.



Ha! Right on.  I married a woman that likes drinking whiskey and smoking cigars, pretty much eliminating the need for a "man cave".  I do have the garage if I need peace and quiet to plot taking over the world.  But I have NO objection to having her come down and light one up with me (however you want to take that).  In fact, if I ever was king of the world for a day, and felt the need to be "trendy" and have a man cave, it would be filled with women.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Shiny on May 18, 2012, 08:06:44 PM
I'd love to have a mancave when I get married. Pool table, fusbol table, air hockey, big screen TV and surround sound system, computer, game systems, etc.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: stavros_388 on May 18, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Mancave! My wife and I just bought our first house, and such a space was one of the main criteria for choosing the house that we did. The rest of the house is very nice, too, but as soon as we went downstairs during our initial viewing, I envisioned the mancave there in all of its glory: A drumset, a small PA system, guitars, a little beer fridge, a dartboard, an old couch parked in front of an old tube TV with nothing but sports on it, maybe even some sports teams banners, and something really cheesy like a Budweiser bar light... er, maybe not the light.  :P  :D

And the best whiskey I've tried is Forty Creek.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Marc1152 on May 18, 2012, 09:03:46 PM
Yes! A man cave is mandatory. Guns. Reloading bench. Rod/reels. Tackle boxes. Tools. Greasy/smelly motorcycle parts. If I move a few things around even a hammock.

Oh yeah...... and spiders. You need a few spiders to keep the girls away.

You don't actually even need spiders. Simply say that you think you saw a spider, and I'd stay far away.

LOL..I just killed one an hour ago for "them"..
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Punch on May 18, 2012, 10:32:14 PM
I'd love to have a mancave when I get married. Pool table, fusbol table, air hockey, big screen TV and surround sound system, computer, game systems, etc.

You mean, what was formerly called a family room or den?

BTW - my favorite bourbon is Bookers, and my favorite Scotch is Lagavulin.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: choy on August 03, 2012, 02:49:46 AM
Eh mancaves generally imply manly sins such as porn, masturbation, excessive drinking or other forms of crudeness. Not sure if a mancave is really appropriate for the Orthodox man. I understand that women can be such a burden when it comes to decorating and furniture, and that the female in the household might want to furnish your mancave according to her taste, but, to be honest, I think that it is worth it. Let her decorate it the way she wants to, all that matters is that you have a quite place where you can escape the rest of the household. I'm not too picky about the room as long as I have a comfortable chair, bookshelf and coffee maker.

Not really.  A mancave is for something "manly".  To me its a big screen TV for watching sports or playing video games  ;D
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Asteriktos on August 03, 2012, 03:04:32 AM
Where's part 2?  ???
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Alpo on August 03, 2012, 04:08:19 AM
Ok, I'm not married not now nor probably any time soon so I shouldn't be answering to this but I see no need for a mancave. However my wife candidate might have need for something like that since she has a car while I don't, she has more booze than I have etc. Helpmeetcave?
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: Gebre Menfes Kidus on August 03, 2012, 04:54:16 AM
A man's house is his castle, so real men don't need to flee to caves (unless they're monks). ;)

But seriously, truth be told, our house is too small for me to find room for a "man cave." A few years ago the children and I spent a weekend turning one room in our little home into a "Mama's cave" which is designated for my wife to enjoy time to herself without disturbance. And you know what? From time to time my wife will invite me to come into her "Mama cave" and spend some "special time." So, my advice: if you want to have time and space to yourself, make sure that your wife has time and space to herself. If you do that, you will find that it works out pretty well.  :)




Selam
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on August 03, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
A man's house is his castle, so real men don't need to flee to caves (unless they're monks). ;)

But seriously, truth be told, our house is too small for me to find room for a "man cave." A few years ago the children and I spent a weekend turning one room in our little home into a "Mama's cave" which is designated for my wife to enjoy time to herself without disturbance. And you know what? From time to time my wife will invite me to come into her "Mama cave" and spend some "special time." So, my advice: if you want to have time and space to yourself, make sure that your wife has time and space to herself. If you do that, you will find that it works out pretty well.  :)




Selam

Ah, the women's quarters.  The Domostroy lives!   ;)
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: HabteSelassie on August 03, 2012, 03:10:49 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I have a man cave.  Its my little recording studio.  I also have my icon corner in there.  My wife doesnt want me putting icons everywhere in the house.  They arent "cute."  

I live with my sister, she is the same way.  However, in hindsight I think she had the more sensible judgement, after all the living room and hallways are for a house, not an Orthodox monastery!  Sometimes people just want to have coffee and conversation without the Saints looking intently on them.  Icons are like a Rorschach test, everybody reacts differently ;)

In regards to the Man-cave, I am an OG Eastsider here in LA, our man-cave is out in the driveway outside in front of the casa or out by the curb, where we've been hanging out since we were kids and where we will hang out until we are Veteranos walking with canes not for style, but because we need them!
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/127/315d66d98cad422faf1a98161b04099e/l.jpg)

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: NicholasMyra on August 03, 2012, 03:29:16 PM
In regards to the Man-cave, I am an OG Eastsider here in LA, our man-cave is out in the driveway outside in front of the casa or out by the curb, where we've been hanging out since we were kids and where we will hang out until we are Veteranos walking with canes not for style, but because we need them!
Rockin' them mean Second Life streets for about thirty loads, mi hermano. Don't forget to watch out for dem INS when they roll up on your server; I heard your user certificates are all x-pired and ****.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: HabteSelassie on August 03, 2012, 03:36:14 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

In regards to the Man-cave, I am an OG Eastsider here in LA, our man-cave is out in the driveway outside in front of the casa or out by the curb, where we've been hanging out since we were kids and where we will hang out until we are Veteranos walking with canes not for style, but because we need them!
Rockin' them mean Second Life streets for about thirty loads, mi hermano. Don't forget to watch out for dem INS when they roll up on your server; I heard your user certificates are all x-pired and ****.

Simon mi primo, but we got our paperwork serio!

When you are young its your momma who chases you and your friends out to the curb to hang out, and when you get older it is your wife and daughters, either way the appropriate man-cave for Eastsiderz is the front drive-way/curb  for life, where the women don't pester us much ;)

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: jah777 on August 03, 2012, 03:44:07 PM
I am in awe of the example of humility given by the men in this thread who claim to need a place of solitude to play music, watch sports, drink alcohol, etc.  I’m sure this is what you claim here, and perhaps what you tell your wives also, but when you are finally alone and the door is locked you pull out your prayer ropes, face your icon corners, and do countless prostrations into the night, winning for yourselves many crowns.  You put us slackers to shame who do not spend nearly enough time in prayer to invent such excuses to hide our spiritual labors.    :)

The caves of Skellig Michael off Ireland, where monks labored for about 5 centuries, are among the most amazing caves I have visited, and probably the manliest

(http://www.wwfblogs.org/travel/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Skellig-Michael.jpg)

(http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/ireland/images/skelligmichael1.jpg)

It is hard to re-create something like this at home, however. ;-)
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: vamrat on August 03, 2012, 04:24:09 PM
In regards to the Man-cave, I am an OG Eastsider here in LA, our man-cave is out in the driveway outside in front of the casa or out by the curb, where we've been hanging out since we were kids and where we will hang out until we are Veteranos walking with canes not for style, but because we need them!
Rockin' them mean Second Life streets for about thirty loads, mi hermano. Don't forget to watch out for dem INS when they roll up on your server; I heard your user certificates are all x-pired and ****.

Second Life?  It looks more like GTA San Andreas to me.  If I saw him dressed like that in my hood he's get a burst from ma 'K.  Grove Street for life.
Title: Re: The Mancave: A Question for Married Orthodox Pt.1
Post by: HabteSelassie on August 03, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Just a clarification,  I hope y'all understand that I meant hanging out at the curb in real life, and not in video games right?

stay blessed,
habte selassie