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Title: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on October 16, 2011, 09:25:40 PM
Post your pics. Or ask for recipes. Whatever floats.

Fried chicken using an egg wash/flower coating:
(http://i.imgur.com/btCdb.jpg)

Sauteed Veggies:
(http://i.imgur.com/BR5wK.jpg)

Rib-eye's, in a brown sugar marinade.
(http://i.imgur.com/sK4P2.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on October 16, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
Yes, I cook  :)  Here's what's currently in my cupboard...

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5643/yumsm.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 16, 2011, 10:57:47 PM
Yes.  About three times per day.  This was breakfast on Saturday.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f67/kbnystrom/breakfast.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Basil 320 on October 16, 2011, 11:21:36 PM
No.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ebor on October 16, 2011, 11:45:08 PM
Yep from "real ingredients" and bake too.  (or are we differentiating between different kinds of cooking?)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 16, 2011, 11:51:51 PM
I'm a one-pot kinda gal. Helps with my CFS and lack of time to cook.

I tend to cook pancit (Filipino noodle dish), lots of stir-fry, teriyaki, tempura. I eat white rice with almost every meal....(trying to put the kibosh on that!).

But like our dear friend *, I dearly love a good Ramen noodle when it is W/F and I am working. I cook them until they are nearly transparent and there's little to no liquid left in the pan. SO sticky and delicious. I can't believe I ate them any other way before.

I just started learning how to cook a few years ago, though, since it was a (very mean) running joke in my family that I should never have children or a household. Another story for another day. But at least I am learning now! Just moving past the basics...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on October 17, 2011, 12:07:26 AM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f67/kbnystrom/breakfast.jpg)

-3 for no weapons included in picture.

For me?  All day, every day.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/14/article-1044667-024504DA00000578-552_233x280.jpg)(http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/15/1535/UZNBD00Z/art-print/bovril-beef-extract.jpg)(http://www.wellingtons.co.za/images/bovril/bovril_main1.jpg)
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01060/SNA09BOV4--380_1060686a.jpg)(http://www.wellingtons.co.za/images/bovril/bovril_ads1.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on October 17, 2011, 12:28:25 AM
LOL Bovril, seriously?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 17, 2011, 12:49:15 AM
Cooking is my relaxation. I learned to cook when I was kid - spent much of my childhood in Europe, loved sampling different cuisines. I lean towards vegetarian/vegan cooking these days (thanks to the Church I've learned to like my veggies); but I hold a black belt in BBQ, so meat is hard to give up. Attached picture is of some vegan "ribz" I fixed on a fast day.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: stanley123 on October 17, 2011, 12:56:18 AM
I like Vietnamese chicken salad.
(http://www.whiteonricecouple.com/recipe/images/chicken485-1.jpg)
(http://www.whiteonricecouple.com/recipe/images/chicken485-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 17, 2011, 01:38:38 AM
I love to cook.  Not much baking though.  Next time I cook something I should post a pic.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: samkim on October 17, 2011, 02:03:11 AM
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1423/30004910150337255977611.jpg)

Orange Chicken with brown rice.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: katherineofdixie on October 17, 2011, 11:11:28 AM
As little as possible.

I am an appreciative and grateful consumer of other peoples' efforts, however. And I'll even clean up your kitchen and wash your dishes!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 17, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
As little as possible.

I am an appreciative and grateful consumer of other peoples' efforts, however. And I'll even clean up your kitchen and wash your dishes!

Really?  If I have fun cooking you will clean up after it?  When are we having dinner?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 17, 2011, 12:18:15 PM
I like to cook! However, my wife does not like it when I cook. She thinks I am leaving too much mess after my cooking exercises, and the result is not too good anyway. :(

On the other hand, Lesya (my wife) is a genius in cooking. She makes our glorious Ukrainian dishes like:

Borshch
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/5/54/Borsch_ukrainskyj.jpg)

holubtsi
(http://krashiy.com/images/expo2007/assets2/photos/8346.jpg)

varenyky
(http://shininghappypeople.net/rwotd/media/blogs/rwotd/2010-08/cherry-vareniky-450.jpg)

as well as a variety of non-Ukrainian dishes like lasagna, steak, tuna salad etc.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HandmaidenofGod on October 17, 2011, 12:27:34 PM
Heorhij,

Why are you committing culinary heresy by putting sour cream on your holubtsi?! This is outrage!

The only appropriate topping for halubtsi is catsup. ;)

To the OP,

I love to cook. This weekend I made an old family recipe of pork ribs and sauerkraut with a traditional German apple crumb cake for dessert. I absolutely love this dish, as this pork gets so tender that the meat literally falls off the bone, and the sauerkraut gets sweet from the meat fat, so it doesn't have the bitter taste most people associate with sauerkraut. I don't know if the recipe is Ukrainian, Polish, or German, but it's something that both my Grandmothers and my mother always made this time of year.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on October 17, 2011, 12:32:24 PM
I was a chef's apprentice for quite some time. I'll put up some stuff as I make it :)

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on October 17, 2011, 12:37:24 PM
As little as possible.

I am an appreciative and grateful consumer of other peoples' efforts, however. And I'll even clean up your kitchen and wash your dishes!

That was actually the deal my wife and I had. Her level of culinary experience was somewhere around "I'll burn the kitchen down if you leave me alone in there"; and I hated doing dishes. So we each took what the other couldn't do or hated (and no, I didn't just make ramen noodles ;D )
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HandmaidenofGod on October 17, 2011, 02:39:27 PM
Yes, I cook  :)  Here's what's currently in my cupboard...

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5643/yumsm.jpg)

I think I just exceeded my sodium intake for the month viewing this picture. ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Timon on October 17, 2011, 02:44:46 PM
Yes.  About three times per day.  This was breakfast on Saturday.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f67/kbnystrom/breakfast.jpg)

Green beans for breakfast???
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 17, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Heorhij, I would LOVE to try some of Lesya's varenyky someday! They look much better than mine.

And for your info, Handmaiden, in Ukraine they mixed BOTH mayo and ketchup on top of the holubtsi. ICK! I was both in awe and disgust of them putting those two condiments on everything, and I really love ketchup.


I'll see if I can remember to take a picture. I'm an epic beginner, so maybe it will inspire other non-cooks to start cooking. We all start somewhere!

Tonight I'm planning pan-fried flounder rolled in panko crumbs, garlic-fried zucchini, with leftover white rice.

A few weeks ago I had inspiration for a W/F meal: my faux mushroom risotto layered on top of mashed pinto beans in a green pepper, broiled. The risotto texture might be a bit messy, but I want the peppers to be cooked rather than raw. I'll tweak the recipe. Mr. Ismi has been badgering to make it for weeks, but something kept coming up. Either that or we finished all of our peppers before W or F. But I intend to make it this week!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on October 17, 2011, 03:27:13 PM
I think I just exceeded my sodium intake for the month viewing this picture. ;)

 :D  One package (not serving) of each is:

Maruchan Ramen Noodles - 1580mg sodium
Nissin Bowl Noodles - 1700mg sodium
Lipton Extra Noodle soup - 2010mg sodium

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on October 17, 2011, 03:45:10 PM
Parmesan Crusted stuffed chicken. Stuffed with tomato, spinach, prociutto, ramano, parmesan and mozzarella cheese.
(http://i.imgur.com/WIrSy.jpg)

Plated:
(http://i.imgur.com/tQEHJ.jpg)
Asparagus with feta.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 17, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
-3 for no weapons included in picture.

I will do better next time.   ;)

Green beans for breakfast???

It is actually kai-lan (Chinese broccoli).  Sauted in bacon fat with onion and bell pepper.  I am a fan of almost any green vegetable with my eggs though.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 17, 2011, 06:01:10 PM
Here is the start of my last batch of gravlax.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f67/kbnystrom/Gravlax.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on October 17, 2011, 06:08:05 PM
Supper for tonight:

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9589/supper.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 17, 2011, 06:49:17 PM
Some other things Lesya makes very well.

Turkey legs:
(http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/images/food/smoked-turkey-leg-05.jpg)

Smoked salmon:

(http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/images/How_to_make_smoked_salmon.jpg)

Pork ribs:

(http://sp.life123.com/bm.pix/bbq-sauce-2.s600x600.jpg)

Anything "egg-based":

(http://www.newgourmetrecipes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Ham-Eggs-and-Hash-Browns-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: LBK on October 17, 2011, 09:35:02 PM
The only thing I don't cook is offal, including liver. Vile stuff. Ugh!!!  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 17, 2011, 09:41:20 PM
The only thing I don't cook is offal, including liver. Vile stuff. Ugh!!!  :P :P :P

Offal is nutrient dense though.  It is worth eating.  Try adding some ground liver to recipes that use ground meat.  You probably won't even notice it, or if you do, you will get used to it quickly.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on October 17, 2011, 09:43:49 PM
I can't cook too many things. A decent baked fish, maybe.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 17, 2011, 09:44:49 PM
Achronos, I bow down to your dinner. I could probably only eat half of that and then I have to run a mile afterwards.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: LBK on October 17, 2011, 09:50:19 PM
The only thing I don't cook is offal, including liver. Vile stuff. Ugh!!!  :P :P :P

Offal is nutrient dense though.  It is worth eating.  Try adding some ground liver to recipes that use ground meat.  You probably won't even notice it, or if you do, you will get used to it quickly.

No thanks. I can't even stand liver pate, which is full of all sorts of things, none of which completely obliterate the liver taste. And kidneys taste like pee.  :P
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 18, 2011, 09:26:09 AM
The only thing I don't cook is offal, including liver. Vile stuff. Ugh!!!  :P :P :P

Offal is nutrient dense though.  It is worth eating.  Try adding some ground liver to recipes that use ground meat.  You probably won't even notice it, or if you do, you will get used to it quickly.

No thanks. I can't even stand liver pate, which is full of all sorts of things, none of which completely obliterate the liver taste. And kidneys taste like pee.  :P

Good.  Hold firm.  Us decent folks leave the eating of gizmos and blood to those Germans.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 18, 2011, 11:36:24 AM
The only thing I don't cook is offal, including liver. Vile stuff. Ugh!!!  :P :P :P

Offal is nutrient dense though.  It is worth eating.  Try adding some ground liver to recipes that use ground meat.  You probably won't even notice it, or if you do, you will get used to it quickly.

No thanks. I can't even stand liver pate, which is full of all sorts of things, none of which completely obliterate the liver taste. And kidneys taste like pee.  :P

Liver pate is mostly liver (along with eggs and cream).  I'm not talking about substituting 1 lb of liver for 1 lb of ground beef.  I'm talking about adding 1-2 oz of liver to 1 lb of ground beef.  But I don't like bananas so to each his own.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Iconodule on October 18, 2011, 11:45:13 AM
My wife works late and also has grad school so I'm usually cooking our meals (though she's a better cook than I). Until recently soups have been my specialty- I've been branching out to other things. As long as a recipe has easy directions I can make it. A lot of my meals come from the cookbooks published by Food and Wine which have many easy and delicious recipes- I've been using the soups and salads book and the Italian book a lot. There is also a one-pot book which I haven't tried yet. But I would definitely recommend these books to beginning cooks, you're bound to impress someone if you try them.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ebor on October 22, 2011, 01:52:28 PM
For starting out cooks, Peg Bracken's I Hate to Cook Book and the volumes that came are very good and have easy to follow good recipes.  I've found out that the Complete I Hate to Cook Book combines three of her books and can be gotten used very cheaply.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ionnis on October 22, 2011, 02:54:13 PM
For starting out cooks, Peg Bracken's I Hate to Cook Book and the volumes that came are very good and have easy to follow good recipes.  I've found out that the Complete I Hate to Cook Book combines three of her books and can be gotten used very cheaply.

Wow, thank you!  I might have to pick her book up!  I cook out of a box and am getting tired of it. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on October 22, 2011, 03:13:37 PM
It's probably better than A Man, A Can, and a Plan, which is deceptive.   
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: PrincessMommy on October 22, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
Yes.  About three times per day.  This was breakfast on Saturday.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f67/kbnystrom/breakfast.jpg)

perfect... except the bread-err beer.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: PrincessMommy on October 22, 2011, 09:17:10 PM
yes, I am the family cook. 

I'm currently making Turtle Cake for a gathering tomorrow.  Friends will eat it and I'll decline since I don't eat wheat.  I made myself some coconut cake w/ orange flavoring.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ebor on October 23, 2011, 12:10:29 PM
It's probably better than A Man, A Can, and a Plan, which is deceptive.   

I looked that one up. Oog. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ebor on October 23, 2011, 12:15:45 PM
For starting out cooks, Peg Bracken's I Hate to Cook Book and the volumes that came are very good and have easy to follow good recipes.  I've found out that the Complete I Hate to Cook Book combines three of her books and can be gotten used very cheaply.

Wow, thank you!  I might have to pick her book up!  I cook out of a box and am getting tired of it. 

You're very welcome.  She wrote the first one in the early 60s and others followed.  She wrote very well and in a very entertaining way and made things simple.  She even included in some recipes a "Stop Here" in case you are preparing things ahead of time (when you have the time) so that you can store it and finish it when you want to have a hot meal.

I've recommended them to people starting out on their own for a long time.  In the "Appendix" volume there's a chapter on cooking for just one person, too.

Ebor
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: KBN1 on October 23, 2011, 01:31:00 PM


perfect... except the bread-err beer.



Don't hate.  ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Eastern Mind on October 23, 2011, 03:16:59 PM
I like to cook. When I was working at the Ohio West Virginia YMCA, I made cookies and cakes and rolls, whole wheat and delicious :) Every Friday we had fried chicken. The cook's daughter came in often to make the chicken and it was wonderful. She would grab random spices and mix them together...the chicken was always tender and juicy and spicy :D I miss it so much!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 23, 2011, 11:12:17 PM
I'm sorry I have no picture, but I discovered a can of coconut milk in the fridge today and decided, on a whim, to cook chicken gata (a Filipino dish). It's chicken cooked and simmered in a mixture of garlic, soy sauce, vinegar, and coconut milk.

Mr. Ismi kept giving me weird looks the entire time I was cooking it, thinking that the mixture was not going to taste good.

Here is the recipe I used:
http://www.allfavoriterecipe.com/adobong-manok-sa-gata-coconut-milk-chicken-adobo

It's actually quite basic, but my mother never added the extra things and my extended family doesn't either.  Must have been a regional thing -- I never ate it with chili peppers or any additional seasoning, besides a teaspoonful of patis (fish sauce), which I quite dislike.

Anyway, he ended up eating three heaping bowls and I'm ashamed to say, I licked the spatula before washing the dishes. It sounds weird, soy sauce, vinegar, and coconut milk, but the resulting sauce is amazing. I used to sneak down to the kitchen around midnight and eat the sauce over rice.

It tasted JUST like my mother's, and I consider that a victory, because she is an amazing cook. Now, if my sinigang could taste remotely close to hers, I'd be set...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: thetraditionalfrog on October 24, 2011, 01:07:01 PM
I'm living with my parents temporarily, but yes I do cook. In fact, I'm doing the bulk of the cooking right now as they are preoccupied with major home renovation. The good thing about this is I am better able to keep the fasts properly. On fast days, I simply make a small amount of non fasting food for myself and something else for them. Anyway, I make a great meatloaf and home made mashed potatoes. I also have been known for having some of the best home made meatballs! My cheesy Italian bake is to die for. In fact I make most things from scratch as I can't stand most packaged, tinned, and processed foods. Fasting fare is very simple and light... lots of salad, veg, meatless veg & Texas bean soup, and instead of using pasta for spaghetti... spaghetti squash. For pre-made marinara, Barilla is the best! Spaghetti squash tastes great, but doesn't give you all the carbs of pasta!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: genesisone on October 24, 2011, 02:35:51 PM
I made a very basic coffee cake to take to church yesterday on my name day. Everyone wanted seconds and I even had a couple of invitations to be their personal cook at home! Very basic: flour, sugar, oil, milk, egg, pinch of salt; topping of brown sugar, flour, cinnamon and nutmeg. Recipe from the well-worn red and white cookbook that ought to be a staple in any household. That's it. Most of my cooking is basic like that. Keep it simple and use good ingredients. Far better than fancy recipes with hard-to-find ingredients.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orest on October 24, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
I like Vietnamese chicken salad.
(http://www.whiteonricecouple.com/recipe/images/chicken485-1.jpg)
(http://www.whiteonricecouple.com/recipe/images/chicken485-2.jpg)

Sta, what are those long green leaves?  Mustard leaves? Amazing meal.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 24, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Some other stuff Lesya likes to make.

Herring with onions:

(http://www.chas-poisti.com.ua/uploads/posts/1256856313_35xxl.jpg)

Herring under "fur coat" (made of eggs, mayonnaise, beets, and onion):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Ukrainska_shuba_-_smachnogo!.jpg/250px-Ukrainska_shuba_-_smachnogo!.jpg)

Liver paté:

(http://mamaclub.ua/riaupload/891697807238970.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 24, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
Another very Slavic post-Soviet dish, "Salad Olivier" (it's actually a dip made of eggs, pickled cucumpers etc.):

(http://vorobus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/olivye.jpg)

"Vinegret" (a dip made of beets and other stuff):

(http://durdom.in.ua/public/main/articles/article_7306.jpeg)

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: akimori makoto on October 24, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
But like our dear friend *

Naruto?

I dearly love a good Ramen noodle when it is W/F and I am working.

Soba > ramen.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 24, 2011, 09:51:36 PM
But like our dear friend *

Naruto?

I dearly love a good Ramen noodle when it is W/F and I am working.

Soba > ramen.
Soba is quite good, although we've only had one package of the noodles in our house in the past several months. Noodles, shiitake mushrooms, chicken cooked in my special teriyaki sauce (which is not really a teriyaki sauce) oh, so good.  Nom nom.

Ramen is great, though. I know the processed stuff is not good for you, but I have developed a taste for it. Plus, my freshman year my friend and I established Ramen/Law&Order nights, so it's tradition for me to eat them every few days.

I'm trying to add more vegetables to the broth to make it a bit healthier. A friend told me about adding hard-boiled eggs to it, but I usually eat Ramen on W/F so I'd have to nix the hard-boiled egg.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: akimori makoto on October 24, 2011, 09:57:08 PM
But like our dear friend *

Naruto?

I dearly love a good Ramen noodle when it is W/F and I am working.

Soba > ramen.
Soba is quite good, although we've only had one package of the noodles in our house in the past several months. Noodles, shiitake mushrooms, chicken cooked in my special teriyaki sauce (which is not really a teriyaki sauce) oh, so good.  Nom nom.

Ramen is great, though. I know the processed stuff is not good for you, but I have developed a taste for it. Plus, my freshman year my friend and I established Ramen/Law&Order nights, so it's tradition for me to eat them every few days.

I'm trying to add more vegetables to the broth to make it a bit healthier. A friend told me about adding hard-boiled eggs to it, but I usually eat Ramen on W/F so I'd have to nix the hard-boiled egg.

(http://www.mailintalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/green_tea_soba.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 24, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
Oh, is that nori I see? Do you mind telling me what else is pictured, for future reference? I can only guess the scallions, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: akimori makoto on October 24, 2011, 10:03:32 PM
Oh, is that nori I see? Do you mind telling me what else is pictured, for future reference? I can only guess the scallions, but that's about it.

Green tea buckwheat noodles dressed with shredded nori on the bamboo.

Sesame, wasabi and shallots in the white ramekin-thingy.

Soba sauce/broth stuff in the small bowl.

The sesame, wasabi and shallots are meant to be mixed into the sauce/broth (as your taste dictates) and the noodles dipped into the sauce/broth before being eaten. At the end of the meal, you can add hot water to the sauce/broth and drink it as a soup.

This is a popular summer meal as the noodles are served cold or chilled.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 24, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
Thank you! Sounds delish. I will have to try it, sans wasabi, next time.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 24, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
Blood sausage:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/thumb/b/b1/Krowianka2.jpg/250px-Krowianka2.jpg)

"Holodets" (a thick cold stew made of cartilage):

(http://sinoval.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/29/2f47f53e387807d0fe3f68dc6214fbf9.jpg)

"Salo" (porcine belly fat) with garlic and chilled "horilka" (Ukrainian vodka):

(http://delo.ua/files/images/75/45/eksponat-muzeja-salo-vo-lvov_7545_p0.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on October 25, 2011, 08:10:32 AM
Oven baked ribs
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2571/ribs3.jpg)

Crab stuffed mushrooms with paprika, green onions, mozarella and parm.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2193/mushroomsr.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 25, 2011, 08:30:41 AM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Heorhij on October 25, 2011, 01:04:55 PM
And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.

I have heard about it, but never saw it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: eromlee on October 26, 2011, 02:57:15 AM
I cook sometimes, I love to eat but cook less.. lols
but I tried to learn some cooks.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on October 26, 2011, 11:04:24 AM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) on October 26, 2011, 11:25:57 AM
I like to cook a few things. Some of the more successful dishes have been:

Imperial Borsht  (with steak, Italian sausage and duckling)
Bulgarian spinach banitsa (like Greek spanakopita, Turkish burek, or Serbian gibanica, but better)
Baklava
Pasta alla puttanesca with hot Italian sausage and bocconcini
Szechuan hot and sour Soup
Octoberfest sausage, potato and kraut
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Tzimis on October 26, 2011, 11:30:17 AM
Oven baked ribs
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2571/ribs3.jpg)

Crab stuffed mushrooms with paprika, green onions, mozarella and parm.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2193/mushroomsr.jpg)

Those mushrooms look good.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 26, 2011, 11:36:56 AM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Primuspilus, glad you loved it! You also learned to cook two Filipino dishes in one, because if you leave out the coconut milk and pepper, you get Chicken Adobo, which is just as great.

I have half a can of the milk left over...I'm tempted to cook it again... ;)

And if I ever have time one day, I want to learn how to make spaetzle. I LOVE spaetzle.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 26, 2011, 12:01:03 PM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Primuspilus, glad you loved it! You also learned to cook two Filipino dishes in one, because if you leave out the coconut milk and pepper, you get Chicken Adobo, which is just as great.

I have half a can of the milk left over...I'm tempted to cook it again... ;)

And if I ever have time one day, I want to learn how to make spaetzle. I LOVE spaetzle.

Yeah, I also want (need) to learn to make spaetzle.  If you figure it out let me know!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 26, 2011, 12:03:04 PM
Blood sausage:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/thumb/b/b1/Krowianka2.jpg/250px-Krowianka2.jpg)

"Holodets" (a thick cold stew made of cartilage):

(http://sinoval.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/29/2f47f53e387807d0fe3f68dc6214fbf9.jpg)

"Salo" (porcine belly fat) with garlic and chilled "horilka" (Ukrainian vodka):

(http://delo.ua/files/images/75/45/eksponat-muzeja-salo-vo-lvov_7545_p0.jpg)

Wow.  You guys are almost as bad as the Icelanders.  On the WWII forum I post on there's this Icelander who posts pictures of their feasts and I gotta tell you, rotten shark and sheep heads will NEVER be on my menu!

I didn't think Orthodox folk were to eat blood - keine Blutwurst?

Edit - BTW, if anyone posts pictures of Balut I will projectile vomit and you will be liable for a new computer screen.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 26, 2011, 12:14:29 PM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Primuspilus, glad you loved it! You also learned to cook two Filipino dishes in one, because if you leave out the coconut milk and pepper, you get Chicken Adobo, which is just as great.

I have half a can of the milk left over...I'm tempted to cook it again... ;)

And if I ever have time one day, I want to learn how to make spaetzle. I LOVE spaetzle.

Yeah, I also want (need) to learn to make spaetzle.  If you figure it out let me know!
This spaetzle recipe looks stupid simple: (All Recipes - Spaetzle http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/detail.aspx)

I imagined having to roll out the dough and cut it, but I am remembering how I read in a German book that the woman would just hold the block of dough over the pot and slice the ribbons into the boiling water. Looks easy enough.

If I do get a chance, I will take a picture.

OMG, with some schnitzel, I'll die.

On my anniversary trip in a few weeks, we are going to this great German restaurant and I am so excited about it. I LOVE German cuisine!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 26, 2011, 01:36:31 PM
Edit - BTW, if anyone posts pictures of Balut I will projectile vomit and you will be liable for a new computer screen.
LOL, just saw this.

Whenever I mention that my mother is Filipino, about 50% of the time I will get a Balut comment. Thank you Food Network. I refuse to try it. There are several dishes that I won't touch and that is one of them.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Elijah on October 26, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
I don't cook most of the time, but I would like to learn about it. In the mean time I try to develop a habit of "vegetarianism" and that gives less opportunity for cooking from my experience. Please do share what you think about this issue from spiritual point of view? And also "vegetarianism" if you can?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 26, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
This thread is torture! Working double shifts this week and living on mini-market roadkill and something-in-a-can for dinner!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 29, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Primuspilus, glad you loved it! You also learned to cook two Filipino dishes in one, because if you leave out the coconut milk and pepper, you get Chicken Adobo, which is just as great.

I have half a can of the milk left over...I'm tempted to cook it again... ;)

And if I ever have time one day, I want to learn how to make spaetzle. I LOVE spaetzle.

Yeah, I also want (need) to learn to make spaetzle.  If you figure it out let me know!
This spaetzle recipe looks stupid simple: (All Recipes - Spaetzle http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/detail.aspx)

I imagined having to roll out the dough and cut it, but I am remembering how I read in a German book that the woman would just hold the block of dough over the pot and slice the ribbons into the boiling water. Looks easy enough.

If I do get a chance, I will take a picture.

OMG, with some schnitzel, I'll die.

On my anniversary trip in a few weeks, we are going to this great German restaurant and I am so excited about it. I LOVE German cuisine!

Ismi, with one small addition, the recipe is a go.  Use more flour.  The author of the recipe is trying to make you play the goop-covered fool.  Use more flour.  Tasted good.  I tossed them in butter like it says and then covered them in Goulasch chased down with (probably too much) Gluhwein.  My bro, our roommate, and I all had it for dinner.  We even gave some to the dog, and it was unanimously good.  Even the dog said so.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 30, 2011, 08:12:29 PM
Aghh!! You actually did it!

Friends were over so we went out and I didn't have time to cook it. I am going to be eating spaetzle on my trip, but when I get back, I promise I need to make it. Hearing that the recipe got a thumbs up from all of you makes me more confident to try that recipe.

No picture again, but we had some leftover flounder and I pan-fried it in sesame oil with garlic, sage, sea salt over the top, with lemon juice. Delish. And Mr. Ismi made home fries and banana bread for dessert. And I went to a buffet this weekend and barely ate anything. Y'know, sometimes it's not worth it to go out...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: akimori makoto on October 30, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
sans wasabi

Blasphemy.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 30, 2011, 08:17:45 PM
I know, I can't stand the stuff. It's one of the several reasons why I am anathemized by my Asian family. Egg rolls are another one (can't stand cabbage).

They try to disown me but one look at my pantry says otherwise....
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on October 30, 2011, 08:57:26 PM
I know, I can't stand the stuff. It's one of the several reasons why I am anathemized by my Asian family. Egg rolls are another one (can't stand cabbage).

They try to disown me but one look at my pantry says otherwise....

What about Sauerkraut?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 30, 2011, 09:02:03 PM
I am actually a fairly picky eater. Don't like sauerkraut, although that's also in my pantry. :-/

When I was in Ukraine and I was eating holubtsi, I ate the filling inside the cabbage. The children couldn't stop laughing at me. They also had their own eating issues, but they thought it was hilarious that I opened up the cabbage and just ate everything inside.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on October 30, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
It looks delicious, Achronos!

I need to remember to take pictures of my food.

And Heorhij, have you had the salo chocolate? I heard about the legend ;) but forgot about looking for it when I was in Ukraine. I would love to try it.
Hey Ismi, I tried that coconut milk chicken thing you posted. It was absolutely amazing. Thanks!

PP
Primuspilus, glad you loved it! You also learned to cook two Filipino dishes in one, because if you leave out the coconut milk and pepper, you get Chicken Adobo, which is just as great.

I have half a can of the milk left over...I'm tempted to cook it again... ;)

And if I ever have time one day, I want to learn how to make spaetzle. I LOVE spaetzle.

Yeah, I also want (need) to learn to make spaetzle.  If you figure it out let me know!
This spaetzle recipe looks stupid simple: (All Recipes - Spaetzle http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/german-spaetzle-dumplings/detail.aspx)

I imagined having to roll out the dough and cut it, but I am remembering how I read in a German book that the woman would just hold the block of dough over the pot and slice the ribbons into the boiling water. Looks easy enough.

If I do get a chance, I will take a picture.

OMG, with some schnitzel, I'll die.

On my anniversary trip in a few weeks, we are going to this great German restaurant and I am so excited about it. I LOVE German cuisine!

Ismi, with one small addition, the recipe is a go.  Use more flour.  The author of the recipe is trying to make you play the goop-covered fool.  Use more flour.  Tasted good.  I tossed them in butter like it says and then covered them in Goulasch chased down with (probably too much) Gluhwein.  My bro, our roommate, and I all had it for dinner.  We even gave some to the dog, and it was unanimously good.  Even the dog said so.

Do you ever just use good ole Knoedel?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 30, 2011, 09:16:06 PM
To Miss Ismi: I made your Adobong Manok sa Gata this evening and I have three things to say about it:  NOM, NOM, NOM!

Aki: that looks like the best meal I never ate! Did you make the Green Tea Buckwheat noodles yourself? I gotta try that...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: IsmiLiora on October 30, 2011, 09:21:05 PM
To Miss Ismi: I made your Adobong Manok sa Gata this evening and I have three things to say about it:  NOM, NOM, NOM!

Aki: that looks like the best meal I never ate! Did you make the Green Tea Buckwheat noodles yourself? I gotta try that...
Agh, that's so cool! Glad you enjoyed it. :) I am making it tomorrow to finish up the coconut milk. Maybe I can post a picture for the non-believers...if I remember to take one before we eat all of it!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: akimori makoto on October 30, 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Aki: that looks like the best meal I never ate! Did you make the Green Tea Buckwheat noodles yourself? I gotta try that...

Dude, my culinary skills don't extend that far, haha.

You should try it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 30, 2011, 10:01:11 PM
I don't cook most of the time, but I would like to learn about it. In the mean time I try to develop a habit of "vegetarianism" and that gives less opportunity for cooking from my experience. Please do share what you think about this issue from spiritual point of view? And also "vegetarianism" if you can?



Since our eating, and fasting, are intimately and intricately connected to the way we worship, if you are Orthodox you need to discuss it with your priest, first.

Other than that, if you can handle it, enjoy the moral high ground, I guess. A lot of spiritually developed people, such as Elder Paisius, enjoyed a very close relationship with animals. Me, I'm not an animal-rights guy, but I'm eating far less meat these days. I simply feel healthier, and enjoy it. I'm not ready to make the transition to Vegan yet.

As far as cooking goes, your only limited by your creativity. Do research, play creatively. Laugh about the "fails". My recommendation: work your way there slowly. And eggplant rules.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 30, 2011, 10:14:46 PM
To Miss Ismi: I made your Adobong Manok sa Gata this evening and I have three things to say about it:  NOM, NOM, NOM!

Aki: that looks like the best meal I never ate! Did you make the Green Tea Buckwheat noodles yourself? I gotta try that...
Agh, that's so cool! Glad you enjoyed it. :) I am making it tomorrow to finish up the coconut milk. Maybe I can post a picture for the non-believers...if I remember to take one before we eat all of it!
Please post the picture! I was a little uncertain about the meat sizing and sauce appearance, so I winged it and it was good - but maybe not like the original? (I have to learn the right way to post pictures from my phone!)

Aki - yeah, I probably will try to make those noodles - no way to buy anything so exotic where I live. Maybe I'll have the kids videotape my attempt - watch for it on fail.com!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HandmaidenofGod on October 30, 2011, 10:24:58 PM
When I was in Ukraine and I was eating holubtsi, I ate the filling inside the cabbage. The children couldn't stop laughing at me. They also had their own eating issues, but they thought it was hilarious that I opened up the cabbage and just ate everything inside.

LOL, you're just like my cousin. Holubtsi is her all-time favorite food. She could eat an entire pot by herself! The only thing is that she won't eat any of the cabbage, just the filling inside.

Her grandmother would just shake her head in disbelief as a large pile of cabbage would be left behind. lol
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mike on October 31, 2011, 07:08:26 AM
When I was in Ukraine and I was eating holubtsi, I ate the filling inside the cabbage. The children couldn't stop laughing at me. They also had their own eating issues, but they thought it was hilarious that I opened up the cabbage and just ate everything inside.

LOL, you're just like my cousin. Holubtsi is her all-time favorite food. She could eat an entire pot by herself! The only thing is that she won't eat any of the cabbage, just the filling inside.

Her grandmother would just shake her head in disbelief as a large pile of cabbage would be left behind. lol

My step-grandmother makes them with sauerkraut instead of normal cabbage!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Elijah on October 31, 2011, 09:32:19 AM
I don't cook most of the time, but I would like to learn about it. In the mean time I try to develop a habit of "vegetarianism" and that gives less opportunity for cooking from my experience. Please do share what you think about this issue from spiritual point of view? And also "vegetarianism" if you can?



Since our eating, and fasting, are intimately and intricately connected to the way we worship, if you are Orthodox you need to discuss it with your priest, first.

Other than that, if you can handle it, enjoy the moral high ground, I guess. A lot of spiritually developed people, such as Elder Paisius, enjoyed a very close relationship with animals. Me, I'm not an animal-rights guy, but I'm eating far less meat these days. I simply feel healthier, and enjoy it. I'm not ready to make the transition to Vegan yet. 

As far as cooking goes, your only limited by your creativity. Do research, play creatively. Laugh about the "fails". My recommendation: work your way there slowly. And eggplant rules.

Thank you for the reply. I agree with you in discussing this issue with the priest, but I think Vegetarianism may be supportive when it is seen from our belief system stand point. 

Who is Elder Paisius? I don't think I have heard about him before. Please let me know anything about this saint?

Cooking is enjoyable sometimes, but being a male I did not start cooking while young. So, that is not good. As you suggested I will try to be creative. Finally do you like eggplants or are they beneficial for health?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on October 31, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
I don't cook most of the time, but I would like to learn about it. In the mean time I try to develop a habit of "vegetarianism" and that gives less opportunity for cooking from my experience. Please do share what you think about this issue from spiritual point of view? And also "vegetarianism" if you can?

Since our eating, and fasting, are intimately and intricately connected to the way we worship, if you are Orthodox you need to discuss it with your priest, first.

Other than that, if you can handle it, enjoy the moral high ground, I guess. A lot of spiritually developed people, such as Elder Paisius, enjoyed a very close relationship with animals. Me, I'm not an animal-rights guy, but I'm eating far less meat these days. I simply feel healthier, and enjoy it. I'm not ready to make the transition to Vegan yet. 

As far as cooking goes, your only limited by your creativity. Do research, play creatively. Laugh about the "fails". My recommendation: work your way there slowly. And eggplant rules.

Thank you for the reply. I agree with you in discussing this issue with the priest, but I think Vegetarianism may be supportive when it is seen from our belief system stand point. 

Who is Elder Paisius? I don't think I have heard about him before. Please let me know anything about this saint?

Cooking is enjoyable sometimes, but being a male I did not start cooking while young. So, that is not good. As you suggested I will try to be creative. Finally do you like eggplants or are they beneficial for health?

I'm not sure about how healthy they are, but eggplants are meaty, flavorful, and satisfying. I love 'em! Last time I went to a farmer's market I came back with 6 different varieties, totalling about 20 eggplants, for four people. My family was giving me the "dad's bonkers" look that I know so well.

They're great in Rattatouille, Baba Ganoush, as a substitute for noodles in lasagna, or the simplest way, breaded and fried in olive oil.

As far as Elder Paisios (all my spellings are suspect), he was a man truly at one with nature.
Here's a quick link: http://orthodoxwayoflife.blogspot.com/2009/10/loving-relationship-with-world-elder.html

-mt-
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: LBK on October 31, 2011, 08:42:46 PM
Quote
... as a substitute for noodles in lasagna ...

That's called moussaka. YUM!!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Elijah on November 02, 2011, 12:55:54 PM
I don't cook most of the time, but I would like to learn about it. In the mean time I try to develop a habit of "vegetarianism" and that gives less opportunity for cooking from my experience. Please do share what you think about this issue from spiritual point of view? And also "vegetarianism" if you can?

Since our eating, and fasting, are intimately and intricately connected to the way we worship, if you are Orthodox you need to discuss it with your priest, first.

Other than that, if you can handle it, enjoy the moral high ground, I guess. A lot of spiritually developed people, such as Elder Paisius, enjoyed a very close relationship with animals. Me, I'm not an animal-rights guy, but I'm eating far less meat these days. I simply feel healthier, and enjoy it. I'm not ready to make the transition to Vegan yet. 

As far as cooking goes, your only limited by your creativity. Do research, play creatively. Laugh about the "fails". My recommendation: work your way there slowly. And eggplant rules.

Thank you for the reply. I agree with you in discussing this issue with the priest, but I think Vegetarianism may be supportive when it is seen from our belief system stand point. 

Who is Elder Paisius? I don't think I have heard about him before. Please let me know anything about this saint?

Cooking is enjoyable sometimes, but being a male I did not start cooking while young. So, that is not good. As you suggested I will try to be creative. Finally do you like eggplants or are they beneficial for health?

I'm not sure about how healthy they are, but eggplants are meaty, flavorful, and satisfying. I love 'em! Last time I went to a farmer's market I came back with 6 different varieties, totalling about 20 eggplants, for four people. My family was giving me the "dad's bonkers" look that I know so well.

They're great in Rattatouille, Baba Ganoush, as a substitute for noodles in lasagna, or the simplest way, breaded and fried in olive oil.

As far as Elder Paisios (all my spellings are suspect), he was a man truly at one with nature.
Here's a quick link: http://orthodoxwayoflife.blogspot.com/2009/10/loving-relationship-with-world-elder.html

-mt-
There are 6 varieties of eggplants? And what is Rattatouille, Baba Ganoush?   Thank you for the information about eggplants, I may have to cook eggplants and try it in the future;  and for the link to Elder Paisious as well, I will look in to it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on November 03, 2011, 10:07:44 AM
At the farmer's market I found: purple globe, a yellow variety, a white variety, a tiger-striped variety, and two varieties of small, japanese eggplants. The globe varieties all tasted about the same. Japanese eggplants tend to end up on my grill.  Rattatouille is a stew of eggplatnt, zucchini, green pepper, onions, garlic, and tomatoes. There ate thousands of recipes, I usually just wing it.  I usually order Baba Ganoush at Indian resturaunts. Best recipe for moussaka is to put on the charm with the old Greek ladies in your parish and mooch off them at the Agape meals! I buy mine from a monastery, its way better (and easier) than mine.

Good source for Lenten/veg recipes:
 http://www.everydaydish.tv/

Her Italian sausage recipe is SUPERB. (yes, I am a seitan worshiper, lol!)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Elijah on November 03, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
At the farmer's market I found: purple globe, a yellow variety, a white variety, a tiger-striped variety, and two varieties of small, japanese eggplants. The globe varieties all tasted about the same. Japanese eggplants tend to end up on my grill.  Rattatouille is a stew of eggplatnt, zucchini, green pepper, onions, garlic, and tomatoes. There ate thousands of recipes, I usually just wing it.  I usually order Baba Ganoush at Indian resturaunts. Best recipe for moussaka is to put on the charm with the old Greek ladies in your parish and mooch off them at the Agape meals! I buy mine from a monastery, its way better (and easier) than mine.

Good source for Lenten/veg recipes:
 http://www.everydaydish.tv/

Her Italian sausage recipe is SUPERB. (yes, I am a seitan worshiper, lol!)

Thank you for the explanation; I italicized it. Does it taste good? Have you cook it like that before? Or you just eat Rattatouille in a restaurant? Is Baba Ganoush another name for Rattatouille? 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: brandb on December 21, 2011, 08:11:08 PM
Things I do when I'm bored.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/386860_648061896839_23807844_33426652_1450998460_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on December 21, 2011, 10:00:58 PM
Schnuck's only. Break room vittles, if possible.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: christian7777 on December 28, 2011, 01:01:05 AM
If ramen and English muffin pizza counts, then yes. :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Isadore on December 29, 2011, 12:42:25 AM
Heorhij: mmmmm slavic food pictures :)

I can cook some dishes my family always makes (italian red sauce, chicken and turkey dishes, lentils etc) and bake a lot. I'm still learning though.

Anyone have a really good/simple borscht recipe?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HandmaidenofGod on December 29, 2011, 01:03:42 AM
Thank you for the explanation; I italicized it. Does it taste good? Have you cook it like that before? Or you just eat Rattatouille in a restaurant? Is Baba Ganoush another name for Rattatouille?  

Rattatouille and Baba Ghanoush are two completely different dishes. Rattatouille (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/ratatouille/) is a stewed vegetable dish, and comes from France. Baba Ghanoush (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/baba-ghanoush-2/detail.aspx) is a Middle Eastern/Mediterranean dip made of roasted eggplant and olive oil, and is eaten with pita bread.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on December 29, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
For those on my facebook, I posted my fried Calamari with my home made breading and sauce. It turned out wonderfully. I'd post it here but work put the hammer down on social network sites.

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on December 31, 2011, 07:53:16 PM
Oh boy! You all are going to be so jealous when you see what I'm having tonight!

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3275/dinnero.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on January 11, 2012, 07:01:07 PM
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2969/chicken2z.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on January 11, 2012, 07:33:41 PM
I've been getting decent at grilling lately, and I've pretty much taken over the duty in my family. I did make one big mistake when I mistook ground pork patties for hamburgers and put them on the grill on high for a good half hour wondering why they wouldn't brown.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on January 12, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
I'm going to cook something with deer meat tonight.  My boss gave it to me from his hunting trip.  Now that the fast is over time to cook it!  Probably going to become chili.

Tomorrow - Corned Beef and Cabbage (and potatoes and carrots)!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on January 31, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1Xo7v.jpg)
A cheeseboigah
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on January 31, 2012, 01:09:34 PM
Oh boy! You all are going to be so jealous when you see what I'm having tonight!

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3275/dinnero.jpg)
I feel for you bro.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Eastern Mind on February 17, 2012, 07:09:45 PM
I love samosas  ;D And baklava! My friend and I tried our hand at making baklava one night. It turned out great.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on February 25, 2012, 09:40:34 PM
I can't cook at all. I'm just going to marry some traditional Orthodox woman to cook me Greek and Russian food. Hope I like it.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on February 25, 2012, 10:22:24 PM
I can't cook at all. I'm just going to marry some traditional Orthodox woman to cook me Greek and Russian food. Hope I like it.
Good luck.

The women I meet don't know crap about cooking.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on February 26, 2012, 12:45:48 AM
I can't cook at all. I'm just going to marry some traditional Orthodox woman to cook me Greek and Russian food. Hope I like it.

Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orest on February 28, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
I can't cook at all. I'm just going to marry some traditional Orthodox woman to cook me Greek and Russian food. Hope I like it.
Good luck.

The women I meet don't know crap about cooking.
I think you comments apply to both MEN and women.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on February 28, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
Now that it's Lent, I went out and bought some bagels. I imagine I'll learn to enjoy mustard or other dairy-free dips even more than I usually do.  :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: genesisone on February 28, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
Now that it's Lent, I went out and bought some bagels. I imagine I'll learn to enjoy mustard or other dairy-free dips even more than I usually do.  :)
Bagels and mustard :-\ . Let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: stanley123 on February 28, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on February 28, 2012, 05:55:15 PM
Now that it's Lent, I went out and bought some bagels. I imagine I'll learn to enjoy mustard or other dairy-free dips even more than I usually do.  :)
Bagels and mustard :-\ . Let us know how it goes.

Enter Slingblade.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on February 28, 2012, 05:59:03 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

I stand corrected.  The Christian view of marriage is that women are sex slaves who ought to cook for men.  What was I thinking?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:08:09 PM
As little as possible.

I am an appreciative and grateful consumer of other peoples' efforts, however. And I'll even clean up your kitchen and wash your dishes!

Please visit my kitchen ASAP. I will cook a feast (well, after Pascha :) )
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:09:47 PM
I like to cook! However, my wife does not like it when I cook. She thinks I am leaving too much mess after my cooking exercises, and the result is not too good anyway. :(

On the other hand, Lesya (my wife) is a genius in cooking. She makes our glorious Ukrainian dishes like:

Borshch
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/5/54/Borsch_ukrainskyj.jpg)

holubtsi
(http://krashiy.com/images/expo2007/assets2/photos/8346.jpg)

varenyky
(http://shininghappypeople.net/rwotd/media/blogs/rwotd/2010-08/cherry-vareniky-450.jpg)

as well as a variety of non-Ukrainian dishes like lasagna, steak, tuna salad etc.



I hope that your dear wife will soon open a Ukrainian restaurant in my backyard. Seriously, with the exception of Georgian food, I don't know if there is any other cuisine.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
I can't cook at all. I'm just going to marry some traditional Orthodox woman to cook me Greek and Russian food. Hope I like it.

You could enroll in some fun cooking classes and meet traditional Orthodox women also learning how to cook.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
Now that it's Lent, I went out and bought some bagels. I imagine I'll learn to enjoy mustard or other dairy-free dips even more than I usually do.  :)

You could make a bagel sandwich with muhammara and baby spinach.

Muhammara is a dip made from toasted walnuts, roasted red peppers, and a few bread crumbs. Season with garlic, smoked paprika/Aleppo pepper/chipotle, pommegranate molasses, a splash of lime, cumin, coriander, salt and pepper. Grind in food processor until smooth and deliciously red-looking. Mmmmmm muhammara. You can add a little olive oil if you like, but it's not essential. It makes a good dip like hummus, or you can use it as a dip for vegetables, slather it on potatoes, etc.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:22:08 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

I stand corrected.  The Christian view of marriage is that women are sex slaves who ought to cook for men.  What was I thinking?

Dangit! She told me it was the other way around. Last time I listen to her.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on February 28, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

I stand corrected.  The Christian view of marriage is that women are sex slaves who ought to cook for men.  What was I thinking?

Dangit! She told me it was the other way around. Last time I listen to her.

The other way around?  Not on this side of the pearly gates.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 28, 2012, 06:48:34 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

I stand corrected.  The Christian view of marriage is that women are sex slaves who ought to cook for men.  What was I thinking?

Dangit! She told me it was the other way around. Last time I listen to her.

The other way around?  Not on this side of the pearly gates.

I said, "Over my dead body." And she said, "I can arrange that."
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: William on February 28, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
Slavery is so Christian.   ::)
Didn't the Council of Gangra 340 AD approve of slavery: "3. If anyone, on the pretext of godliness, teach a slave to scorn his master, and to leave his service, and not to afford his services to his own master with favor and all honor, let him be anathema."
http://www.holytrinitymission.org/books/english/councils_local_rudder.htm#_Toc72635081

I stand corrected.  The Christian view of marriage is that women are sex slaves who ought to cook for men.  What was I thinking?

If any potential spouse of mine can't cook she better like toast.  ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on February 29, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: genesisone on February 29, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shanghaiski on February 29, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard goes with everything.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: DavidH on February 29, 2012, 04:09:01 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard goes with everything.

It is refreshing to see someone cook in an Orthodox manner.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: genesisone on February 29, 2012, 04:27:19 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard goes with everything.

It is refreshing to see someone cook in an Orthodox manner.
I suppose I should back off a bit and (sort of) apologize  :). I did add some dry mustard to the black bean and corn salad I'm taking to supper after Liturgy tonight.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cavaradossi on February 29, 2012, 05:11:41 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on February 29, 2012, 06:52:17 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard mayo goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Fixed the error above.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on February 29, 2012, 06:56:17 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard mayo goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Fixed the error above.

Are you a closet Ukrainian?  If you order pizza in a restaurant here there is a good chance that the sauce will be mayo.  I realized there was no hope for me after I caught myself putting mayo on plain pasta.  It's rather out of control. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on February 29, 2012, 07:07:21 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard mayo goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Fixed the error above.

Are you a closet Ukrainian?  If you order pizza in a restaurant here there is a good chance that the sauce will be mayo.  I realized there was no hope for me after I caught myself putting mayo on plain pasta.  It's rather out of control. 

If I ever came out, I think Liza might try to end her life.

Mayo > than that sweet tomatoey junk you'll find where I am.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on February 29, 2012, 07:10:25 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard mayo goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Fixed the error above.

Are you a closet Ukrainian?  If you order pizza in a restaurant here there is a good chance that the sauce will be mayo.  I realized there was no hope for me after I caught myself putting mayo on plain pasta.  It's rather out of control. 

Mayo on everything? That is pretty unhealthy. I assume that the Ukranians are usually overweight?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on February 29, 2012, 07:12:19 PM
Burned myself getting a bagel out of the toaster. Shows what I know.  :D
Your secret was out a few posts back when you paired bagels with mustard  ::).

Come now, mustard mayo goes with everything.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Fixed the error above.

Are you a closet Ukrainian?  If you order pizza in a restaurant here there is a good chance that the sauce will be mayo.  I realized there was no hope for me after I caught myself putting mayo on plain pasta.  It's rather out of control. 

Mayo on everything? That is pretty unhealthy. I assume that the Ukranians are usually overweight?

If I say yes does that mean you'll remove Ukraine from your sex tourism destinations?  FWIW, it is exceedingly rare to see an obese person here. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on February 29, 2012, 09:10:27 PM
You could enroll in some fun cooking classes and meet traditional Orthodox women also learning how to cook.

That would be nice. I assume I would be learning how to prepare Greek or Slavonic dishes? Personally, from your opinion, which type would you say has more meats? I'm a bit of a carnivore.

If I say yes does that mean you'll remove Ukraine from your sex tourism destinations?

I'm not a sex tourist, I'm just looking for companionship and a loving relationship with an Orthodox woman. Okay, maybe there is a little sexual motive but that comes second! I would marry a non-sexually attractive woman with a good heart and personality over a beautiful, sexually attractive woman with a horrible personality.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 01, 2012, 12:21:05 AM
Mayonnaise is garbage.

Miracle Whip is where it's at.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 01, 2012, 08:13:23 AM
I'm not a sex tourist, I'm just looking for companionship and a loving relationship with an Orthodox woman. Okay, maybe there is a little sexual motive but that comes second! I would marry a non-sexually attractive woman with a good heart and personality over a beautiful, sexually attractive woman with a horrible personality.

Sorry but this whole idea of picking out a woman like a stuffed animal that will cook for you, clean for you, be obedient and otherwise be exactly what YOU want is deeply offensive.  That's a completely different mentality than deciding to move to Eastern Europe to work or study and if you just happen to meet the perfect person deciding to get married and stay.  You often post about wanting to pick out your teddy bear wife, but you hardly ever talk about having any respect or love for Russian or Ukrainian culture.  Have you read any literature from here?  Have you started learning Russian?  What do YOU have to offer anybody in Eastern Europe other than your passport?  You'll be surprised by reality as well - my wife speaks four languages fluently and has a master's degree.  She's hardly looking to stay at home and wait on me.  My blood boils over sex tourism because it is a personal issue; every time my wife says our last name (which is obviously not local) or mentions that her husband isn't Ukrainian she gets looks of contempt with people assuming the worst.  All thanks to potential and actual sex tourists like you.  Thanks!

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 01, 2012, 10:44:39 AM
I'm not a sex tourist, I'm just looking for companionship and a loving relationship with an Orthodox woman. Okay, maybe there is a little sexual motive but that comes second! I would marry a non-sexually attractive woman with a good heart and personality over a beautiful, sexually attractive woman with a horrible personality.

Sorry but this whole idea of picking out a woman like a stuffed animal that will cook for you, clean for you, be obedient and otherwise be exactly what YOU want is deeply offensive.  That's a completely different mentality than deciding to move to Eastern Europe to work or study and if you just happen to meet the perfect person deciding to get married and stay.  You often post about wanting to pick out your teddy bear wife, but you hardly ever talk about having any respect or love for Russian or Ukrainian culture.  Have you read any literature from here?  Have you started learning Russian?  What do YOU have to offer anybody in Eastern Europe other than your passport?  You'll be surprised by reality as well - my wife speaks four languages fluently and has a master's degree.  She's hardly looking to stay at home and wait on me.  My blood boils over sex tourism because it is a personal issue; every time my wife says our last name (which is obviously not local) or mentions that her husband isn't Ukrainian she gets looks of contempt with people assuming the worst.  All thanks to potential and actual sex tourists like you.  Thanks!



Do people really go to Ukraine for sex tourism?  I always figured Thailand would be ideal, but seeing as I am broke I've had to suffice with Myanmar and Laos as of late.


But seriously, I think you are being a little bit harsh on James.  It sounds to me that he is looking for someone with so-called traditional values.  Nothing he's said sounds like he wants to enslave her, and quite honestly, judging from his tone I think any woman with a strong will will have no trouble with him at all. 
I can understand where he is coming from.  I have met plenty of women from "the other side of the Iron Curtain" (not all have been Russian) and I find them much easier to get along with than most American girls...and most of the ones I've met would not fit any description of the word "mousey".  The things I find attractive about these women are what you describe.  I have found them to be intelligent and cultured.  I have yet to meet one who is monolingual.  Many of them have known three or four languages, and a Masters Degree is not uncommon amongst them - being entirely uneducated is.   
And honestly, if marrying an Orthodox woman is important to him (and I think it should be) there's a good chance that if he finds one, she is not going to be American.  Just as a matter of attrition.  All of single women I know who are Orthodox and older than 12 are foreign.  If I have to go back into the dating game again I would certainly prefer to meet an Orthodox woman, so I can see where he is coming from.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 01, 2012, 03:30:32 PM
Sorry but this whole idea of picking out a woman like a stuffed animal that will cook for you, clean for you, be obedient and otherwise be exactly what YOU want is deeply offensive.

I apologize. Only, I think you are exaggerating me. I've never talked about enslaving or picking out a woman like a stuffed animal. 

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That's a completely different mentality than deciding to move to Eastern Europe to work or study and if you just happen to meet the perfect person deciding to get married and stay.  You often post about wanting to pick out your teddy bear wife, but you hardly ever talk about having any respect or love for Russian or Ukrainian culture.  Have you read any literature from here?  Have you started learning Russian?

I'm studying the history of the Russian Orthodox Church and befriending the Russian members of the Parish to learn about the culture firsthand. Once again, I never meant to offend you. 

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What do YOU have to offer anybody in Eastern Europe other than your passport?

The will to help the suffering in whatever way I possibly can using all of my western resources to benefit your kind.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on March 03, 2012, 02:00:49 PM
My son LOVES kvas. We're making it ourselves fo the first time, following this recipe found online: http://m.whats4eats.com/beverages/kvas-recipe. Seems pretty simple & straightforward. Guess we'll know in a week how we did! Any expert tips or thoughts?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Melodist on March 03, 2012, 10:07:24 PM
Do people really go to Ukraine for sex tourism?  I always figured Thailand would be ideal,

Ever see The Hangover 2?

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And honestly, if marrying an Orthodox woman is important to him (and I think it should be) there's a good chance that if he finds one, she is not going to be American.

I think this pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 03, 2012, 10:26:16 PM
Do people really go to Ukraine for sex tourism?  I always figured Thailand would be ideal,

Ever see The Hangover 2?


Yep.   ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: mark thomas on March 04, 2012, 04:02:17 AM
My son LOVES kvas. We're making it ourselves fo the first time, following this recipe found online: http://m.whats4eats.com/beverages/kvas-recipe. Seems pretty simple & straightforward. Guess we'll know in a week how we did! Any expert tips or thoughts?

Answering my own post: don't use that recipe. Liquid measurement way off, apparently.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 08:28:06 AM
Do people really go to Ukraine for sex tourism?  I always figured Thailand would be ideal, but seeing as I am broke I've had to suffice with Myanmar and Laos as of late.

If you book at the right time a flight from London to Kyiv can be under 100 USD.  Sex tourism and human trafficing are the unfortunate realities of that.  The mail order bride business is really just an extension of sex tourism.  Of course not all international relationships fit that mold; not all women in this situations are victimized by a long shot.  Nonetheless I find it unsettling to refer to refer to Russia / Ukraine as a source of some sort of commodity designed for the consumption of Western men seeking "traditional values".  Remember that I deal with this on a daily basis and see a lot of suffering this causes first hand.         

I have met plenty of women from "the other side of the Iron Curtain" (not all have been Russian) and I find them much easier to get along with than most American girls...and most of the ones I've met would not fit any description of the word "mousey".  The things I find attractive about these women are what you describe.  I have found them to be intelligent and cultured.  I have yet to meet one who is monolingual.  Many of them have known three or four languages, and a Masters Degree is not uncommon amongst them - being entirely uneducated is.

Keep in mind that if you meet someone from the CIS in the West they likely aren't typical as obtaining a visa is a rigorous process.  But to some extent I agree with you that generally Russian culture promotes a lot of things that I value such as education and cultural literacy.  Unfortunately I rarely see intellectually equal relationships - some Western brute talking about nonsense while his lady is discussing her favorite Esenin poems in Russian. 

And honestly, if marrying an Orthodox woman is important to him (and I think it should be) there's a good chance that if he finds one, she is not going to be American.  Just as a matter of attrition.  All of single women I know who are Orthodox and older than 12 are foreign.  If I have to go back into the dating game again I would certainly prefer to meet an Orthodox woman, so I can see where he is coming from.

There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 11:23:36 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 11:40:18 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 11:44:48 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 11:52:01 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Which is then dating.  It is a semantic difference.   Even if a friend / relative / whoever introduces you to someone, you do eventually go through some process of dating. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Which is then dating.  It is a semantic difference.   Even if a friend / relative / whoever introduces you to someone, you do eventually go through some process of dating. 

I appreciate you declaring a mere semantic difference regarding a cultural practice you first heard of 10 minutes ago. However, there is certainly a difference between お見合い結婚 (arranged marriage) and 恋愛結婚 (so-called "love" marriages). If it were a distinction without a difference, I do not suspect that they should have different divorce rates, but arranged couples have much lower divorce rates than "love marriage" couples. (a prime reason I support arranged marriage)


Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Which is then dating.  It is a semantic difference.   Even if a friend / relative / whoever introduces you to someone, you do eventually go through some process of dating. 

I appreciate you declaring a mere semantic difference regarding a cultural practice you first heard of 10 minutes ago. However, there is certainly a difference between お見合い結婚 (arranged marriage) and 恋愛結婚 (so-called "love" marriages). If it were a distinction without a difference, I do not suspect that they should have different divorce rates, but arranged couples have much lower divorce rates than "love marriage" couples. (a prime reason I support arranged marriage)

Either way dating is a broad term and I didn't mean go to the night club, get drunk and see who you can find.  Statistics are also misleading re: divorce.  In some places that I've seen with nearly arranged type marriages divorce is very rare, but it is understood that people have mistresses.  Ultimately, I don't disagree that using mutual friends and other to introduce you to someone is a good idea. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Melodist on March 05, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
I will state an observation from personal experience. The last time I asked a girl out on a date, it was a disaster. The last time I was set up with someone, while it didn't work out, it was the longest and strongest relationship I've been in.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 12:14:55 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating. 

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work? 

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Which is then dating.  It is a semantic difference.   Even if a friend / relative / whoever introduces you to someone, you do eventually go through some process of dating. 

I appreciate you declaring a mere semantic difference regarding a cultural practice you first heard of 10 minutes ago. However, there is certainly a difference between お見合い結婚 (arranged marriage) and 恋愛結婚 (so-called "love" marriages). If it were a distinction without a difference, I do not suspect that they should have different divorce rates, but arranged couples have much lower divorce rates than "love marriage" couples. (a prime reason I support arranged marriage)

Either way dating is a broad term and I didn't mean go to the night club, get drunk and see who you can find.  Statistics are also misleading re: divorce.  In some places that I've seen with nearly arranged type marriages divorce is very rare, but it is understood that people have mistresses.  Ultimately, I don't disagree that using mutual friends and other to introduce you to someone is a good idea. 

That is fair. I think it many respects it is accurate to refer to match.com and other such websites as facilitating arranged marriages.

Speaking anecdotally, my in-laws were an arranged couple. My mother-in-law died on New Year's Eve 1999 (this is basically like dying on Christmas Eve in the West) and my father-in-law has never even looked at another woman, let alone remarried. More empirically, arranged couples generally report more affection for each other than "love" couples.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 05, 2012, 02:35:04 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman".  

What makes you think that dating is "normal"?

The other options are an arranged marriage or treating women as a commodity to be purchased / selected.  Given the options, I'll take dating.  

That doesn't make dating "normal". Dating is a rather modern innovation. By the way, what makes you think you weren't "selected"?

Arranged marriage is ideal.

So two people who hate each other and are incompatible should be forced to marry because their parents made some sort of deal?

What makes you think that is how arranged marriage works? I think you have seen "Coming to America" too many times. Was your first job in the Ukraine at McDowell's?

I'd never even heard of the movie until now.  Then how does arranged marriage work?  

It varies according to culture. In Japan, the form I am most familiar with, a marriageable person submits themselves to an intermediary who handles introductions and selection of candidates. No one is forced to do anything.

Which is then dating.  It is a semantic difference.   Even if a friend / relative / whoever introduces you to someone, you do eventually go through some process of dating.  

I appreciate you declaring a mere semantic difference regarding a cultural practice you first heard of 10 minutes ago. However, there is certainly a difference between お見合い結婚 (arranged marriage) and 恋愛結婚 (so-called "love" marriages). If it were a distinction without a difference, I do not suspect that they should have different divorce rates, but arranged couples have much lower divorce rates than "love marriage" couples. (a prime reason I support arranged marriage)

Either way dating is a broad term and I didn't mean go to the night club, get drunk and see who you can find.  Statistics are also misleading re: divorce.  In some places that I've seen with nearly arranged type marriages divorce is very rare, but it is understood that people have mistresses.  Ultimately, I don't disagree that using mutual friends and other to introduce you to someone is a good idea.  

That is fair. I think it many respects it is accurate to refer to match.com and other such websites as facilitating arranged marriages.

Speaking anecdotally, my in-laws were an arranged couple. My mother-in-law died on New Year's Eve 1999 (this is basically like dying on Christmas Eve in the West) and my father-in-law has never even looked at another woman, let alone remarried. More empirically, arranged couples generally report more affection for each other than "love" couples.



This is probably because "love" is more often infatuation.  The cute butt and charming personality will go away.  There needs to be more if a relationship is going to work.  One advantage of using a match-maker or some form of arranged relationship is that you can have people who know you both see if it is going to work or not without having any of the emotional blinders on.  With online dating this is taken to a further level where a machine will often gauge your personalities and give you an idea of compatibility up front.

One problem with just looking around for someone in person is that timing has a lot to do with it.  Perhaps the other person isn't interested in dating, or whatever.  The advantage with arranged or semi-arranged relationships is that more than likely both parties are looking for a relationship.  I certainly think online dating is a semi-arranged relationship, and while it is still dating to some extent, I think it definitely falls under a different category than finding a girl at the bar, or falling in love with a friend.  The dynamic is probably closer to what it was for couples brought together by a match-maker back in the day.
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Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
This is probably because "love" is more often infatuation.  The cute butt and charming personality will go away.  There needs to be more if a relationship is going to work.  One advantage of using a match-maker or some form of arranged relationship is that you can have people who know you both see if it is going to work or not without having any of the emotional blinders on.  With online dating this is taken to a further level where a machine will often gauge your personalities and give you an idea of compatibility up front.

One problem with just looking around for someone in person is that timing has a lot to do with it.  Perhaps the other person isn't interested in dating, or whatever.  The advantage with arranged or semi-arranged relationships is that more than likely both parties are looking for a relationship.  I certainly think online dating is a semi-arranged relationship, and while it is still dating to some extent, I think it definitely falls under a different category than finding a girl at the bar, or falling in love with a friend.  The dynamic is probably closer to what it was for couples brought together by a match-maker back in the day.

I think you are exactly right. The gushy feelings go away and then all of the sudden, someone is not haaaaaaaaaaaappppppppy and then the papers get served.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

I think that your perception would be a bit different if you seen what women are like on the other side of the curtain. Either way, it is not like I planned on going out to some foreign country, getting drunk in a bar and taking the first women I see. I rather planned on going out to Russia/Ukraine, learning a bit about the culture, hopefully participating in some slavic worship and then respectfully date a woman I meet who shares the same interests. Then hopefully that would lead to marriage.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: stanley123 on March 05, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
I will state an observation from personal experience. The last time I asked a girl out on a date, it was a disaster. The last time I was set up with someone, while it didn't work out, it was the longest and strongest relationship I've been in.
Sometimes marriages arranged by the families involved work out better than finding a mate on your own.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 04:58:44 PM
There is a huge difference between normal dating and relationships than "I'm going to Russia to pick me out a woman". 

I think that your perception would be a bit different if you seen what women are like on the other side of the curtain. Either way, it is not like I planned on going out to some foreign country, getting drunk in a bar and taking the first women I see. I rather planned on going out to Russia/Ukraine, learning a bit about the culture, hopefully participating in some slavic worship and then respectfully date a woman I meet who shares the same interests. Then hopefully that would lead to marriage.

I truly wish you the best in your endeavors. I did not marry American for a reason.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
I did not marry American for a reason.

Consider yourself lucky. You would be amazed if you knew how much American women constantly want to divorce you at every little moment and take half of your stuff whenever you show even the slightest discontent with their behavior or make them angry. I blame American feminism for this. Hating to stereotype again, but I've noticed that women in the slavic lands seem to have found the balance between independence and traditionalism. Whereas in America, feminism is still in its adolescence and consists in acting out and being irresponsible for shock value.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 05:19:33 PM
I did not marry American for a reason.

Consider yourself lucky. You would be amazed if you knew how much American women constantly want to divorce you at every little moment and take half of your stuff whenever you show even the slightest discontent with their behavior or make them angry. I blame American feminism for this. Hating to stereotype again, but I've noticed that women in the slavic lands seem to have found the balance between independence and traditionalism. Whereas in America, feminism is still in its adolescence and consists in acting out and being irresponsible for shock value.

Good grief.  How do you have any real idea what women in "Slavic lands" are like?   You have a romanticized ideal with which you have no practical experience.  Women are individuals, not a commodity.  It sounds like you are picking out a breed of dog based on behavioral traits. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 05, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
I did not marry American for a reason.

Consider yourself lucky. You would be amazed if you knew how much American women constantly want to divorce you at every little moment and take half of your stuff whenever you show even the slightest discontent with their behavior or make them angry. I blame American feminism for this. Hating to stereotype again, but I've noticed that women in the slavic lands seem to have found the balance between independence and traditionalism. Whereas in America, feminism is still in its adolescence and consists in acting out and being irresponsible for shock value.

Good grief.  How do you have any real idea what women in "Slavic lands" are like?   You have a romanticized ideal with which you have no practical experience.  Women are individuals, not a commodity.  It sounds like you are picking out a breed of dog based on behavioral traits. 

Anything wrong with that? People who share a culture tend to share behavioral traits. Don't you remember your comments regarding Americans in the paleo fasting thread?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on March 05, 2012, 05:31:31 PM
I did not marry American for a reason.

Consider yourself lucky. You would be amazed if you knew how much American women constantly want to divorce you at every little moment and take half of your stuff whenever you show even the slightest discontent with their behavior or make them angry. I blame American feminism for this. Hating to stereotype again, but I've noticed that women in the slavic lands seem to have found the balance between independence and traditionalism. Whereas in America, feminism is still in its adolescence and consists in acting out and being irresponsible for shock value.

Oops. My parents have been married for 43 years.

You lose.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
Good grief.  How do you have any real idea what women in "Slavic lands" are like?

Talking to the several immigrants in my parish who happen to be slavic women.   

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You have a romanticized ideal with which you have no practical experience...It sounds like you are picking out a breed of dog based on behavioral traits. 

Are you not doing the same thing by assuming that all westerners are evil sex tourists?
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Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
I did not marry American for a reason.

Consider yourself lucky. You would be amazed if you knew how much American women constantly want to divorce you at every little moment and take half of your stuff whenever you show even the slightest discontent with their behavior or make them angry. I blame American feminism for this. Hating to stereotype again, but I've noticed that women in the slavic lands seem to have found the balance between independence and traditionalism. Whereas in America, feminism is still in its adolescence and consists in acting out and being irresponsible for shock value.

Good grief.  How do you have any real idea what women in "Slavic lands" are like?   You have a romanticized ideal with which you have no practical experience.  Women are individuals, not a commodity.  It sounds like you are picking out a breed of dog based on behavioral traits.  

Anything wrong with that? People who share a culture tend to share behavioral traits. Don't you remember your comments regarding Americans in the paleo fasting thread?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that I'm a bit more familiar with American culture than James, who admits to talking a few people at his parish, is of Slavic culture. 

Good grief.  How do you have any real idea what women in "Slavic lands" are like?

Talking to the several immigrants in my parish who happen to be slavic women.

To give you an idea something less than 5% of the population attends liturgy here.  Do you really think talking to a few people at your parish really is representative of the culture?  Sure there are wonderful Slavic women, but there are also great American women.  There are bad apples in both groups.  

Are you not doing the same thing by assuming that all westerners are evil sex tourists?

I hardly think that all Westerners are sex tourists, rather I simply think the ones who say they are coming for the purpose of sex are.  
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 05:50:26 PM
To give you an idea something less than 5% of the population attends liturgy here.  Do you really think talking to a few people at your parish really is representative of the culture?  Sure there are wonderful Slavic women, but there are also great American women.  There are bad apples in both groups.

Less than 5 percent? Hell, that is an improvement for me. Did you know that in North America less than 2 percent of the population is Eastern Orthodox, and that is including the members who barely attend Church and are not even active. The number of attending, active Orthodox is even less. While I do not think that talking to a few people is an entire representative of the culture, I do think that I can at least learn a little bit about the culture, albeit on an elementary level. Which is why I am not planning on living solely off of what I learn from them, but what I learn from them along with what I learn from classes and what I will learn firsthand from being out there if I ever somehow can visit.

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I hardly think that all Westerners are sex tourists, rather I simply think the ones who say they are coming for the purpose of sex are.

I'm not a sex tourist, in fact, I barely turned sixteen. I never wanted to offend you in the past, and I have tried apologizing many times if I have, and I apologize again and will try to be more sensitive and less ignorant, however, I do not take kindly to you accusing me of being a sex tourist all of the time when I made it very clear that there were many other reasons why I would love to visit the slavic lands.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
James, I'm glad that you don't see Slavic women as some sort of commodity to obtain.   I honestly wish you the best on your endeavors.  I do think you'll be surprised that this isn't some sort of Orthodox paradise.  The struggles to make a relationship work are the same whether you are in America or Ukraine. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on March 05, 2012, 05:55:29 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 06:03:49 PM
I do think you'll be surprised that this isn't some sort of Orthodox paradise.

I already know that it is not. While I may be ignorant on the exact details and what it feels like entirely, the precise reason I want to come is not because it is an Orthodox paradise, but because it is an Orthodox paradise buried under so much misery and hardship, which, I would like to share in. I do not like the separation between the Orthodox Christians in the west and east, I think that if one of us struggles then the other should too, and if one is happy, then so should the other be happy. I just want to do my part and struggle with my brothers in the east, and hope that some day they can also rejoice in the pleasures of the west.

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The struggles to make a relationship work are the same whether you are in America or Ukraine. 

I will remember that
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 05, 2012, 06:12:48 PM
I do think you'll be surprised that this isn't some sort of Orthodox paradise.

I already know that it is not. While I may be ignorant on the exact details and what it feels like entirely, the precise reason I want to come is not because it is an Orthodox paradise, but because it is an Orthodox paradise buried under so much misery and hardship, which, I would like to share in. I do not like the separation between the Orthodox Christians in the west and east, I think that if one of us struggles then the other should too, and if one is happy, then so should the other be happy. I just want to do my part and struggle with my brothers in the east, and hope that some day they can also rejoice in the pleasures of the west.

Out of curiosity what do you plan to be able to offer to Slavic society? 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 05, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

Don't be too hard on him.  James has some growing to do, but it looks like the kid has ideals.  I remember what those were like.  I am cynical and fatalistic now, but I still remember idealism with a degree of fondness.  
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 06:18:10 PM
Out of curiosity what do you plan to be able to offer to Slavic society? 

From a practical standpoint, English lessons and knowledge about the western world. From a personal, more ambitious standpoint, western money for charity and restoration. My biggest career goal is to make music in the western world for money and help my community with the cash I make. I've taken several classes and visited many colleges and institutes to learn about poetry and music production. I know that you may not understand, but to me, and much of the lower class youth in the western world, music is seen as the one way to escape and make it big into the world, especially with influental figures like Tupac Shakur who rose from the very bottom of society up to the very top and gave so much back to his community. My ambition is similar, but to help the people suffering in the east with my western resources. If I can make it big in the western world, then I can use the resources to help the eastern world.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 05, 2012, 06:27:50 PM
Out of curiosity what do you plan to be able to offer to Slavic society? 

From a practical standpoint, English lessons and knowledge about the western world. From a personal, more ambitious standpoint, western money for charity and restoration. My biggest career goal is to make music in the western world for money and help my community with the cash I make. I've taken several classes and visited many colleges and institutes to learn about poetry and music production. I know that you may not understand, but to me, and much of the lower class youth in the western world, music is seen as the one way to escape and make it big into the world, especially with influental figures like Tupac Shakur who rose from the very bottom of society up to the very top and gave so much back to his community. My ambition is similar, but to help the people suffering in the east with my western resources. If I can make it big in the western world, then I can use the resources to help the eastern world.

Learn a skill.  You'll do a lot better.  The power of music is cool and all, but the power of nuclear fusion is more useful in the long run.  Though, teaching language might be useful.  Most of the good Russian teachers I've met here have been Russian or Ukrainian, so I'd guess the opposite would also be true.  You might consider getting a degree in Russian, get good at it, then go over there as a teacher.

Alternately, anyone who can figure out how to do agricultural transportation in Russia will become rich.  Then you can pass half of that on to the government, and will still have half left to help better your adopted people.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 05, 2012, 06:35:41 PM
Learn a skill.  You'll do a lot better.  The power of music is cool and all, but the power of nuclear fusion is more useful in the long run.  Though, teaching language might be useful.  Most of the good Russian teachers I've met here have been Russian or Ukrainian, so I'd guess the opposite would also be true.  You might consider getting a degree in Russian, get good at it, then go over there as a teacher.

Alternately, anyone who can figure out how to do agricultural transportation in Russia will become rich.  Then you can pass half of that on to the government, and will still have half left to help better your adopted people.

I really appreciate your advice, but are you sure that these ideas are better? I was always under the impression that western currency is more valuable than eastern currency (excuse the umbrella term) so I figured that if I can make western currency, then I will be able to give more to the eastern world than if I worked for eastern currency. What I am concerned about is the output; which method will give me the most resources I can give to the people in the east? Will working with nuclear fusion really give me more currency than if I were a famous musician in the western world? If so, I will take that up in a minute, but I plan to stick with whatever will give me the largest output in the long run to help the people in the east.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 05, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
Learn a skill.  You'll do a lot better.  The power of music is cool and all, but the power of nuclear fusion is more useful in the long run.  Though, teaching language might be useful.  Most of the good Russian teachers I've met here have been Russian or Ukrainian, so I'd guess the opposite would also be true.  You might consider getting a degree in Russian, get good at it, then go over there as a teacher.

Alternately, anyone who can figure out how to do agricultural transportation in Russia will become rich.  Then you can pass half of that on to the government, and will still have half left to help better your adopted people.

I really appreciate your advice, but are you sure that these ideas are better? I was always under the impression that western currency is more valuable than eastern currency (excuse the umbrella term) so I figured that if I can make western currency, then I will be able to give more to the eastern world than if I worked for eastern currency. What I am concerned about is the output; which method will give me the most resources I can give to the people in the east? Will working with nuclear fusion really give me more currency than if I were a famous musician in the western world? If so, I will take that up in a minute, but I plan to stick with whatever will give me the largest output in the long run to help the people in the east.

The number of musicians who are wildly successful is very low in comparison to the number of nuclear technicians who are mildly successful.  If you are ever looking for advice on life, keep in mind that attrition is almost always the answer.   ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: William on March 05, 2012, 09:26:50 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

biro, don't be too hard on James. He's kind of naive, yeah, but we all are about something or another.  :P Plus he has a bit of an excuse. The women he's been involved with have been kind of abnormal. He can disclose more information if he wishes.

I'd prefer to date an American woman, because I'm not completely Americanophobic. Who knows, maybe the fact that the USA has so many converts to Orthodoxy is proof that all of us Murcans aren't as evil as we're supposed to be.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 06, 2012, 02:09:47 AM
The women he's been involved with have been kind of abnormal. He can disclose more information if he wishes.

He is right :-( She was horrible. I really loved her, she was my first crush and my best friend, I was always there for her and we have been through a lot, yet, she backstabbed me so many times. One time she wouldn't go places with me in public because she was worried about what her friends would think, and recently she confided in me that she was cutting herself and contemplating suicide, and I told her parents to help her because I cared then she didn't talk to me for like six months. As if this is not enough, she used me to spy on people for her and would make me stay up until 4:00AM hearing her cry to me on the phone and through IM, even though she was backstabbing me and would ignore me whenever I had a problem. I did so much for her and she took so much advantage of me and treated me so badly :(
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 06:00:41 AM
Is Biro the only person with a lick of sense here?

James, ONE bad relationship doesn't give you the right to go off on misogynist rants about American women.  Carrying such hatred does real psychological harm to you.  How do you think you can have normal relationships with American women (and I mean just colleagues, general people) if you harbor such feelings?  It's not healthy.  Forgive and get on with life.  There are therapeutic things to help - spend an evening splitting a bottle of vodka with a good friend and talking it out.  In your case that wouldn't be appropriate, but you can find some sort of substitute - running, music, etc.  After you get everything out, get on with life.  BTW - as someone who knows both American and Ukrainian culture, the dating / relationship scene in America is child's play compared to Ukraine.  Prepare to get eaten alive. 

I know you don't mean to sound offensive, but really you want to help "us" by playing your guitar and giving us money.  You do realize that is insulting, right?  I've seen so many cases of idealistic Americans who can't even feed themselves or do the most basic social functions go abroad to help the poor natives.  It is insulting. 

BTW, this Thursday is a huge holiday in Ukraine and Russia.  Make sure you get the ladies at your parish some chocolates.       
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 06, 2012, 06:58:03 AM
James, ONE bad relationship doesn't give you the right to go off on misogynist rants about American women.  Carrying such hatred does real psychological harm to you.  How do you think you can have normal relationships with American women (and I mean just colleagues, general people) if you harbor such feelings?  It's not healthy.  Forgive and get on with life.  There are therapeutic things to help - spend an evening splitting a bottle of vodka with a good friend and talking it out.  In your case that wouldn't be appropriate, but you can find some sort of substitute - running, music, etc.  After you get everything out, get on with life.  BTW - as someone who knows both American and Ukrainian culture, the dating / relationship scene in America is child's play compared to Ukraine.  Prepare to get eaten alive.

In other words, I have to get over this unhealthy psychological condition of hatred and stereotyping, and if it ever so happens that I become involved in the dating world of Ukraine, I need to toughen up and learn? I'll try my very best. I have so much to learn, and so little time. But, I have the will to learn.

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I know you don't mean to sound offensive, but really you want to help "us" by playing your guitar and giving us money.  You do realize that is insulting, right?  I've seen so many cases of idealistic Americans who can't even feed themselves or do the most basic social functions go abroad to help the poor natives.  It is insulting.

I can see where you are coming from and I apologize for indirectly being offensive again, and while I may have faith in a talent I possess that may seem worthless, I promise that I will not ever come over until/unless I learn some useful habit or develop some really useful, important way that can turly benefit the people rather than a dream when I am really broke. I know it sounds stupid, but I would love to be like Bob Marley, bringing public attention to all of the issues faced in parts of the world that are generally ignored by the west. I know that this is unlikely, so, I will try to learn something useful and practical that can be beneficial to both myself and people over in the east.

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BTW, this Thursday is a huge holiday in Ukraine and Russia.  Make sure you get the ladies at your parish some chocolates.       

Milk chocolate or dark chocolate? And are there any tips you have for me when presenting it to them so that I do not accidently offend them or give off the wrong message if I somehow screw up and make a mistake?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:19:53 AM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
I do think you'll be surprised that this isn't some sort of Orthodox paradise.

I already know that it is not. While I may be ignorant on the exact details and what it feels like entirely, the precise reason I want to come is not because it is an Orthodox paradise, but because it is an Orthodox paradise buried under so much misery and hardship, which, I would like to share in. I do not like the separation between the Orthodox Christians in the west and east, I think that if one of us struggles then the other should too, and if one is happy, then so should the other be happy. I just want to do my part and struggle with my brothers in the east, and hope that some day they can also rejoice in the pleasures of the west.

Out of curiosity what do you plan to be able to offer to Slavic society? 

I imagine the same thing he would offer to his current society. If he is worth having in America, any reason that he shouldn't be worth having in a Slavic country?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 10:22:02 AM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.

Creepy...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:23:03 AM
The women he's been involved with have been kind of abnormal. He can disclose more information if he wishes.

He is right :-( She was horrible. I really loved her, she was my first crush and my best friend, I was always there for her and we have been through a lot, yet, she backstabbed me so many times. One time she wouldn't go places with me in public because she was worried about what her friends would think, and recently she confided in me that she was cutting herself and contemplating suicide, and I told her parents to help her because I cared then she didn't talk to me for like six months. As if this is not enough, she used me to spy on people for her and would make me stay up until 4:00AM hearing her cry to me on the phone and through IM, even though she was backstabbing me and would ignore me whenever I had a problem. I did so much for her and she took so much advantage of me and treated me so badly :(

James, have you ever considered learning game? If so, shoot me a PM and I can send you a few links. I have seen cases such as yours many times before.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:35:34 AM
James, ONE bad relationship doesn't give you the right to go off on misogynist rants about American women.  Carrying such hatred does real psychological harm to you.  How do you think you can have normal relationships with American women (and I mean just colleagues, general people) if you harbor such feelings?  It's not healthy.  Forgive and get on with life.  There are therapeutic things to help - spend an evening splitting a bottle of vodka with a good friend and talking it out.  In your case that wouldn't be appropriate, but you can find some sort of substitute - running, music, etc.  After you get everything out, get on with life.  BTW - as someone who knows both American and Ukrainian culture, the dating / relationship scene in America is child's play compared to Ukraine.  Prepare to get eaten alive.

I did not see that James wrote anything that is in the slightest sense misogynistic. Neither have I seen him display hatred for anyone.

I agree that James is in no shape to enter any dating market. He is too prone to put women on a pedestal in a lesser beta/omega fashion. He needs to learn some game. Also, a job and education would be nice. James, I do not recommend you look for a wife at age 16.

Quote
I know you don't mean to sound offensive, but really you want to help "us" by playing your guitar and giving us money.  You do realize that is insulting, right?  I've seen so many cases of idealistic Americans who can't even feed themselves or do the most basic social functions go abroad to help the poor natives.  It is insulting. 

I am sorry that you are insulted, but with a per capita GDP of $7,200, you are ranked #113 in the world. The US is ranked #11 at $48,100. Last year, Ukraine received $124 million of yummy foreign aid from the US. So, I think the words you are looking for are "thank you".

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:36:51 AM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.

Creepy...

How rare to see a man use the word "creepy". This is usually a term used by women to mean "sexually undesirable man".

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 10:45:31 AM
I am sorry that you are insulted, but with a per capita GDP of $7,200, you are ranked #113 in the world. The US is ranked #11 at $48,100. Last year, Ukraine received $124 million of yummy foreign aid from the US. So, I think the words you are looking for are "thank you".

Which is irrelevant.  What can an individual American with no actual skills do in a place like Ukraine or Russia - nothing.  As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
I am sorry that you are insulted, but with a per capita GDP of $7,200, you are ranked #113 in the world. The US is ranked #11 at $48,100. Last year, Ukraine received $124 million of yummy foreign aid from the US. So, I think the words you are looking for are "thank you".

Which is irrelevant.  What can an individual American with no actual skills do in a place like Ukraine or Russia - nothing.  As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 

It is very relevant to your claim of feeling "insulted" by people "giving us money". Your feeling insulted in rooted in pride. Your irrelevant feelings aside, I pay taxes so you can get money. I would prefer that you say "thank you" instead of rant about how insulted you feel.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
I am sorry that you are insulted, but with a per capita GDP of $7,200, you are ranked #113 in the world. The US is ranked #11 at $48,100. Last year, Ukraine received $124 million of yummy foreign aid from the US. So, I think the words you are looking for are "thank you".

Which is irrelevant.  What can an individual American with no actual skills do in a place like Ukraine or Russia - nothing.  As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 

It is very relevant to your claim of feeling "insulted" by people "giving us money". Your feeling insulted in rooted in pride. Your irrelevant feelings aside, I pay taxes so you can get money. I would prefer that you say "thank you" instead of rant about how insulted you feel.

But the goal of USAID, Peace Corps and other such programs isn't to just give money.  The goal is to promote things like rule of law, train people in necessary professions or provide infrastructure.   That's very different than "oh you poor pathetic people, I'm a completely unskilled person but I feel bad for you and want to help". 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 11:12:54 AM
I am sorry that you are insulted, but with a per capita GDP of $7,200, you are ranked #113 in the world. The US is ranked #11 at $48,100. Last year, Ukraine received $124 million of yummy foreign aid from the US. So, I think the words you are looking for are "thank you".

Which is irrelevant.  What can an individual American with no actual skills do in a place like Ukraine or Russia - nothing.  As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 

It is very relevant to your claim of feeling "insulted" by people "giving us money". Your feeling insulted in rooted in pride. Your irrelevant feelings aside, I pay taxes so you can get money. I would prefer that you say "thank you" instead of rant about how insulted you feel.

But the goal of USAID, Peace Corps and other such programs isn't to just give money.  The goal is to promote things like rule of law, train people in necessary professions or provide infrastructure.   That's very different than "oh you poor pathetic people, I'm a completely unskilled person but I feel bad for you and want to help". 

That is a fair point. As I said in a previous post, at age 16, James is not in a position to be of use to any society or to any person as a mate. I have recommended that he get an education and acquire skills. Having lived abroad for some years, I am all too familiar with the buffoonish English teacher who arrives and acts poorly in the host country.

That having been said, I never got the impression that James was planning to get on a plane today or even next year. I read his comments as speaking to his long term plans for marriage, not what he has on his calendar for next Thursday.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orest on March 06, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
Which is irrelevant.  What can an individual American with no actual skills do in a place like Ukraine or Russia - nothing.  As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 
I have read there is a group or organization in Chicago that sends out professional teachers for a month in the summer to Ukraine to teach English to university students.  I met one woman who has done it for 2 summers.  In addition to just teaching the language in their interaction with students and sessions outside of language classes they try to teach values and engage in discussions too.  It is done on a volunteer basis with no pay and the teachers are boarded with a family if placed in a city or in a tent or cabin if out in the country at a camp.
All your comments have been valid.  It is difficult to go to Russia or Ukraine to work.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 06, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
As others have mentioned, trained and talented English teachers are in critical demand.  I'd say most other long term ex-pats here are involved in mining or the oil / gas industry.  Those involved with business tend to be here as part of an internal transfer within a multinational corporation. 

What more can you tell me about the mining or the oil/gas industry? Also, not sure if this is true or not, but I was reading that there is a high demand in many former Soviet countries for better public transportation. Is there a job market for this in demand? Perhaps like helping design infrastructure and more affective transportation methods? Could an American with a degree in architecture offer anything to Ukraine, Russia or one of the former Soviet countries?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) on March 06, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
To my shame, I just now realized that I miss reading the posts of Presvitera Mari, or Greek Chef, was the original poster for this thread. I pray that she is doing just fine.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 04:15:51 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.


WHAT?

ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL?

Biro, for God's sake, unsubscribe.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 04:40:45 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.


WHAT?

ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL?

Biro, for God's sake, unsubscribe.

I have been married to my beautiful young Japanese wife for almost 11 years.  ;D

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
For someone with all these notions of how women should act, you sure don't know how to speak to one with any respect.

I think you owe biro an apology.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
For someone with all these notions of how women should act, you sure don't know how to speak to one with any respect.

I think you owe biro an apology.

What did I or anyone else say that was disrespectful to biro?

By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 04:57:21 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 05:05:22 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095

Not according to OED.   
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 05:13:08 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095

Not according to OED.   

Those nerds at Oxford aren't going to talk straight to you like I am. I am giving you pearls here. Take screenshots for posterity.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 05:17:24 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095

Not according to OED.   

Those nerds at Oxford aren't going to talk straight to you like I am. I am giving you pearls here. Take screenshots for posterity.

And why do you presume to teach me? Even from less formal sources such as urbandictionary, the standard definition of creepy is more in line with my usage than yours. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 06, 2012, 05:26:44 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

Indeed.  Married to the same woman for 11 years?  What an oddball.  I hope I never have daughters and they end up with someone like that.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 05:30:04 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095

Not according to OED.   

Those nerds at Oxford aren't going to talk straight to you like I am. I am giving you pearls here. Take screenshots for posterity.

And why do you presume to teach me? Even from less formal sources such as urbandictionary, the standard definition of creepy is more in line with my usage than yours. 

Why do you presume you have nothing to learn? I am trying to rescue you from mistaken white knight thinking. Listen to me and your marriage will get even better, I guarantee it. *thumbs up*

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 06, 2012, 05:33:25 PM
It just gets creepier and creepier.  

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,40384.msg718095.html#msg718095

Not according to OED.   

Those nerds at Oxford aren't going to talk straight to you like I am. I am giving you pearls here. Take screenshots for posterity.

And why do you presume to teach me? Even from less formal sources such as urbandictionary, the standard definition of creepy is more in line with my usage than yours. 

Why do you presume you have nothing to learn? I am trying to rescue you from mistaken white knight thinking. Listen to me and your marriage will get even better, I guarantee it. *thumbs up*

Huh.  White knight?  Thinking something is weird makes me a white knight...ok. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 06, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
He's sixteen, and he's telling us all about women.

Oh, great.  :P   >:( :-X ??? ::)

As someone who actually is a woman from America, I'd like to say many possible things at this point, but they have rules on this forum.

I'll stop before I make it worse.

You may wish to evaluate whether the things you would like to say are part of the reason why an increasing number of American men, including me and JamesR, are looking outside our borders when choosing a mate.


WHAT?

ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL?

Biro, for God's sake, unsubscribe.

Do you disagree with his point or just the manner in which it was given? 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.
LOL.

Those nerds at Oxford aren't going to talk straight to you like I am. I am giving you pearls here. Take screenshots for posterity.
You aren't Orthonorm.

It just gets creepier and creepier.  
I know.

Do you disagree with his point or just the manner in which it was given?  
That biro represents why you need to flee the debauchery of Fourth Rome and fly to the Old World to track down some pure Eastern Euro bride?

I believe one's sensibilities should exceed that of the basic plot of Stargate and Pocahontas.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/w8dDjl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/w8dDj)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
James, have you ever considered learning game? If so, shoot me a PM and I can send you a few links. I have seen cases such as yours many times before.

I agree that James is in no shape to enter any dating market. He is too prone to put women on a pedestal in a lesser beta/omega fashion. He needs to learn some game.

LOL.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 06, 2012, 08:54:14 PM
I swear you can never know what a woman wants. If you are kind, polite and traditional then she sees you as a push-over, friendzones you or thinks you are obnoxious and chauvenistic. Yet, when you are more laid back with swag like my mate Sauron, they think you are an obnoxious, player pig.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 09:37:54 PM
I swear you can never know what a woman wants. If you are kind, polite and traditional then she sees you as a push-over, friendzones you or thinks you are obnoxious and chauvenistic. Yet, when you are more laid back with swag like my mate Sauron, they think you are an obnoxious, player pig.
James, dude...

Listen.

You're in High School.

Relax.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 10:26:45 PM
I swear you can never know what a woman wants. If you are kind, polite and traditional then she sees you as a push-over, friendzones you or thinks you are obnoxious and chauvenistic. Yet, when you are more laid back with swag like my mate Sauron, they think you are an obnoxious, player pig.

JamesR, stick with me and you will go far. I did get your PM, but today has been crazy. I will respond to it shortly.

NicholasM needs to state his current relationship status. Although, I can make a good guess based on the comic he posted. I suspect he has a lovely girlfriend...in Canada.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 06, 2012, 10:48:53 PM
Sauron: The Catholic Mark Driscoll.   :D

James, don't listen to this chump.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: William on March 06, 2012, 10:54:35 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 06, 2012, 10:56:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8VaJN.gif)LIFE EXPERIENCES START AND END AT HIGH SCHOOL(http://i.imgur.com/8VaJN.gif)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 11:03:11 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 11:05:10 PM
Sauron: The Catholic Mark Driscoll.   :D

James, don't listen to this chump.

NickM, you either don't understand what I am talknig about, or what Mark Driscoll is all about, if you think this is the case.

Let me be quite clear: I think that Mark Driscoll is horrible. He is a white knight beta who puts it on a pedestal if you know what I mean.

What is your relationship status?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: William on March 06, 2012, 11:11:31 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 06, 2012, 11:19:03 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso

That is part of the technique. Stick with this thread and you will be going places, my friend!

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on March 07, 2012, 12:08:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8VaJN.gif)LIFE EXPERIENCES START AND END AT HIGH SCHOOL(http://i.imgur.com/8VaJN.gif)
As a high schooler, I've always assumed that's true but dearly hoped it isn't.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 07, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
I like to think he's only pretending to incarnate every self help book written to get socially-disordered people laid.

The fact that he's doing so on an Orthodox Christian message board only adds to the hilarity and confusion.

I swear you can never know what a woman wants. If you are kind, polite and traditional then she sees you as a push-over, friendzones you or thinks you are obnoxious and chauvenistic. Yet, when you are more laid back with swag like my mate Sauron, they think you are an obnoxious, player pig.
Often they ain't far from the truth on both counts.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 07, 2012, 01:50:50 AM
Our beloved emperor orthonorm has better relationship advice, and I normally don't listen to relationship advice.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 07, 2012, 07:56:01 AM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
I like to think he's only pretending to incarnate every self help book written to get socially-disordered people laid.

The fact that he's doing so on an Orthodox Christian message board only adds to the hilarity and confusion.

I think Orthodox Christians want to get (and stay) married, too.

I think you are a really nice guy and a good friend. You are going to make some lucky girl very happy someday.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 07, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
I like to think he's only pretending to incarnate every self help book written to get socially-disordered people laid.

The fact that he's doing so on an Orthodox Christian message board only adds to the hilarity and confusion.

I think Orthodox Christians want to get (and stay) married, too.

I think you are a really nice guy and a good friend. You are going to make some lucky girl very happy someday.


Oh, what, I'm not good enough for you to try out your moves on me?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 07, 2012, 03:11:41 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
I like to think he's only pretending to incarnate every self help book written to get socially-disordered people laid.

The fact that he's doing so on an Orthodox Christian message board only adds to the hilarity and confusion.

I think Orthodox Christians want to get (and stay) married, too.

I think you are a really nice guy and a good friend. You are going to make some lucky girl very happy someday.


Oh, what, I'm not good enough for you to try out your moves on me?
bow-chicka-wow-wow.....

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 07, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
By the way, women do not respect the white knight behavior you are currently displaying.


For real?

For real. This one is for the "nice guys". They can stop me when it starts to sound familiar...

"_____, you are a really nice guy and a great friend, and I just know you are going to make some very lucky girl so happy one day..."



I honestly can't tell if you're joking or trying to give real relationship advice.

estoy confuso
I like to think he's only pretending to incarnate every self help book written to get socially-disordered people laid.

The fact that he's doing so on an Orthodox Christian message board only adds to the hilarity and confusion.

I think Orthodox Christians want to get (and stay) married, too.

I think you are a really nice guy and a good friend. You are going to make some lucky girl very happy someday.


Oh, what, I'm not good enough for you to try out your moves on me?

He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.

Me, on the other hand...

What are you doing this weekend?  If you're not busy perhaps we could catch a Vespers or something.   :-*
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 07, 2012, 04:19:17 PM
Quote
He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.

Me, on the other hand...

What are you doing this weekend?  If you're not busy perhaps we could catch a Vespers or something
You could always whip up some vamratatouille.....

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 07, 2012, 04:30:09 PM
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He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.

Me, on the other hand...

What are you doing this weekend?  If you're not busy perhaps we could catch a Vespers or something
You could always whip up some vamratatouille.....

PP

Oh, now you're just getting naughty!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on March 07, 2012, 05:13:36 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 07, 2012, 05:25:35 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour. 

Simple stuff, yo.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) on March 07, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 07, 2012, 06:03:20 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) on March 07, 2012, 06:25:49 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.

I think waiting until last few minutes would be great. Also, I would use chipotles canned in adobe and reserve some to be added at the same time as the soyburger. Finally, how about giving the dish more of a zing with a last minute splash of Texas Pete and a sprinkling of chopped cilantro and/or green onions?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 07, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
So, anyone have any good chili recipes?

Do you like soy meat?  Get some soyburger, canned chilies, raw jalapeno, one anaheim, one can of chili beans, stewed tomatoes, an onion.  Chop up the unchopped vegetables.  Cook up the mystery meat first with some chili powder (Tabasco if your spice cabinet sucks) garlic powder, the jalapeno, and a good portion of the onions.  Use some form of oil.  Put it in the pot with the other vegetables and canned stuff and bring it to heat until it bubbles.  Then turn it down to a simmer and cook for about an hour.  

Simple stuff, yo.

What kind of "canned chilies"? Plus, if you simmer for 1 hour, don't the soyburger pieces turn into mush?

Canned chilies - I just grab whatever catches my eye on the bottom row in the Mexican section of the supermarket.  I'm not picky when it comes to peppers!

I hadn't thought of the soyburger mush.  I haven't tried this yet, so thanks for pointing that out.  Perhaps simmer all the veggies together first and then add the mystery meat near the end?  A bit bassackwards but it might work.

Use shredded textured vegetable protein (TVP). It can be bought at Whole Foods and other SWPL-type stores.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Carl Kraeff (Second Chance) on March 07, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
Here is a great vegetarian chili recipe from Emeril Lagasse: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/vegetarian-chili-recipe/index.html (http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/vegetarian-chili-recipe/index.html).

Other inventive uses of beans may be found in other cuisines as well.

Turkish: Pinto Beans (Pinto Fasulyesi) from http://almostturkish.blogspot.com/2007/04/pinto-beans-pinto-faslyesi.html (http://almostturkish.blogspot.com/2007/04/pinto-beans-pinto-faslyesi.html)

Bulgarian: Bean Soup from http://www.bgcooks.com/2010/06/bulgarian-been-soup-zrial-bob.html (http://www.bgcooks.com/2010/06/bulgarian-been-soup-zrial-bob.html)

Indian:72 recipes that use chick peas, lentils, beans, etc..from http://www.ivu.org/recipes/indian-beans/ (http://www.ivu.org/recipes/indian-beans/)

Italian: Pasta Fazool from http://www.passionatevegetarian.com/r_pasta_fagioli.htm (http://www.passionatevegetarian.com/r_pasta_fagioli.htm)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 07, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
I'm going to have to give some of those Indian dishes a try.  I love Indian food.  Unfortunately, I rarely have the motivation to cook, so my lenten fare tends to be lots fried or smoked fish or like last night - black bread smeared with I can't believe it's not butter and a lime to prevent scurvy.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 08, 2012, 01:26:59 AM
He already said he was married.  You should be ashamed going after a married man.
Haven't you heard the story of the woman who danced before men for a good cause?

Stick around this forum long enough and you will.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 08, 2012, 01:27:43 AM
This website has some awesome middle-eastern recipes, many lenten:

http://www.sudairy.com/mer/recipes.html
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on March 08, 2012, 01:44:23 AM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 08, 2012, 03:26:02 AM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesRottnek on March 08, 2012, 09:52:57 AM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Russians drink beer because it is bread.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 08, 2012, 10:16:54 AM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 10:20:31 AM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.

Your problem is that you are a picky eater. While I am a carnivore of carnivores, vegetables are delicious.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 08, 2012, 10:47:14 AM
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Your problem is that you are a picky eater. While I am a carnivore of carnivores, vegetables are delicious
Especially when cooked in bacon grease :)

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 08, 2012, 10:59:17 AM
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Your problem is that you are a picky eater. While I am a carnivore of carnivores, vegetables are delicious
Especially when cooked in bacon grease :)

PP

Exactly.  I can eat vegetables, I just need something to cover up the flavor.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 11:03:58 AM
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Your problem is that you are a picky eater. While I am a carnivore of carnivores, vegetables are delicious
Especially when cooked in bacon grease :)

PP

Exactly.  I can eat vegetables, I just need something to cover up the flavor.

That's the problem. You need to get over being a picky eater. I am not giving you a hard time.

For example, you mention that you need to drop 50 lbs. Picky eaters are commonly overweight. For some reason, there is never the picky eater who can only eat cruciferous vegetables. Rather, they can only eat grilled cheese sandwiches and french fries.

Also, related to the topic at hand, it has social consequences, such as the case of the man in the linked article who asked for a grilled cheese sandwich at a fancy Italian restaurant.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/the-grown-picky-eaters-club

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 08, 2012, 11:28:50 AM
I read the article and it didn't take long for the common cure-all for anything ever.....medication. *sigh*.

Anyways, Im a picky eater as well. my palette has been brodening of late, but still there are some things that I find horrid. Such as tomatoes and pickles.

Oddly, I love everything flavor-wise about tomato based products. I love ketchup and I make a mean red sauce from scratch ;)

I just can not stand the taste of a tomato in its natural state.

As for pickles, they are demon spawn and I will starve before eating one....actually, I have :)

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 11:46:04 AM
I read the article and it didn't take long for the common cure-all for anything ever.....medication. *sigh*.

Anyways, Im a picky eater as well. my palette has been brodening of late, but still there are some things that I find horrid. Such as tomatoes and pickles.

Oddly, I love everything flavor-wise about tomato based products. I love ketchup and I make a mean red sauce from scratch ;)


The article did not advocate medication as a cure-all. It quoted one doctor as saying "some may benefit from treatment such as anti-depressants". However, the same doctor then advocated exposure therapy in considerable detail.

Ketchup does not taste like tomatoes.

I think a large part of picky eaters begins with their childhoods. In my family, we never taught our kids that there is such a thing as "kids food" and "grownup food". We all eat the same food for dinner. My kids have fought over green beans to the point of tears.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 08, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
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The article did not advocate medication as a cure-all. It quoted one doctor as saying "some may benefit from treatment such as anti-depressants".
Sorry, you are correct. I was simply saying that wnenever I read anything psychological, the medications always come up. It was more exasperation than stating that was in the article. My apologies.

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Ketchup does not taste like tomatoes
Thank God, or my hot dogs would taste rather bland.

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I think a large part of picky eaters begins with their childhoods. In my family, we never taught our kids that there is such a thing as "kids food" and "grownup food". We all eat the same food for dinner
Same in my fam. I dont cook different dinners and I wont allow it when my boy does not like what is for dinner. Either he eats, or goes to bed hungry.

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My kids have fought over green beans to the point of tears
You are truly blessed.  :laugh:

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 12:06:55 PM
Sorry, you are correct. I was simply saying that wnenever I read anything psychological, the medications always come up. It was more exasperation than stating that was in the article. My apologies.

No apologies are necessary. The reason that medication often comes up is because the mind is an effect of the brain. Therefore, if one wishes to alter the functions of the mind, altering the brain can be an effective way to go about it.

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Thank God, or my hot dogs would taste rather bland.

Ketchup prevents you from tasting your hot dog at all. The sweetness of its sugar combined with the sour vinegar chemically shorts your taste buds. This is why ketchup is oft used by parents to get their kids to eat anything. I recommend mustard and other topping for hot dogs.

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Same in my fam. I dont cook different dinners and I wont allow it when my boy does not like what is for dinner. Either he eats, or goes to bed hungry.

Well, there is always ketchup, right?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on March 08, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
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No apologies are necessary. The reason that medication often comes up is because the mind is an effect of the brain. Therefore, if one wishes to alter the functions of the mind, altering the brain can be an effective way to go about it
I just get sick of hearing drugs drugs drugs all the time.

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Ketchup prevents you from tasting your hot dog at all. The sweetness of its sugar combined with the sour vinegar chemically shorts your taste buds. This is why ketchup is oft used by parents to get their kids to eat anything. I recommend mustard and other topping for hot dogs
Bleh...dont like mustard. Now hot sauce.....

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Well, there is always ketchup, right?
ketchup and cauliflower go together like dinosaurs and chap-stik.

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 12:30:28 PM
I just get sick of hearing drugs drugs drugs all the time.

I am sorry you are sick of hearing about it, but to the extent the human body is a biochemical organism, chemicals can effect its function. That includes the function of the brain. I would certainly agree that, if possible, it is preferable to treat conditions like Type II diabetes with diet and exercise rather than drugs. That is not because drugs are bad, but because that would be of general benefit to the patient as a whole. However, something like paranoid schizophrenia cannot be treated by simply talking about one's feelings.

To use an example closer to home, my five-year-old niece has severe epilepsy (among other problems) and just came out of surgery within the last hour after having a pacemaker-type device placed in her chest and electrodes implanted and connected to her vagus (a nerve in the brainstem) in hopes of reducing her seizures. So yes, sometimes medicine is the answer.

Sorry to get off-topic.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on March 08, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
For fish, at least with me, it's a choice between that and breaking the fast.  I am not and have never been a vegetarian.  I am an omnivore who leans slightly towards carnivore.  I think the vast majority of vegetables taste like feces, and a diet of nothing but potatoes and bread is a good way to stack on another twenty pounds, and to be honest, I'm going to have to loose something like fifty if I want to be healthy. 

I generally steer away from olive oil during the fast and just use vegetable oil since it really does the same thing.

And yes, I drink beer because it is not wine, and really is just liquid bread.  Likewise, vodka is not wine.

Well, thank you for your honesty.  :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on March 08, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Well, as long as we can beat the system through reverse-pharisaic application, I'm down!


Russians drink beer because it is bread.

Right...

I find these distinctions and definitions ridiculous, but at the same time I should admit that I regularly don't properly fast, in that my portion control is horrible. For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 08, 2012, 03:14:16 PM
Honest question (not judging), but why have so many "lenten" recipes I've seen posted on here included oil and fish? 
You mean olive oil or other oil?

A lot of Orthodox use oil if it's not olive oil, like Russians drinking beer because it isn't wine.

Well, as long as we can beat the system through reverse-pharisaic application, I'm down!


Russians drink beer because it is bread.

Right...

I find these distinctions and definitions ridiculous, but at the same time I should admit that I regularly don't properly fast, in that my portion control is horrible. For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.

I don't know.  I think I probably could do the moslem fast, especially Nativity since sundown comes so early.  Don't eat all day and gorge when the sun goes down.  And eat whatever you want on top of it.  During the fast I usually just eat two meals anyway. 

Personally, I consider most of it to be Phaisaic.  Fasting should be done in secret with a good countenance, not announcing every time you go out to eat with someone that you can't eat X because the fast doesn't allow for it.  Last week my roommate made some lasagna for dinner and said "hey, I even made it without meat so you can have some too!"  What do you say at that point?  When an atheist goes out of his way to account for part of a religion he doesn't even believe, I think that gives more glory to God than it would to smear your face with ash (figuratively speaking) and not eat.  I told him afterwards that cheese isn't allowed either but said that I wasn't fasting that week, then kept it thereafter. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cognomen on March 08, 2012, 03:38:03 PM
I don't know.  I think I probably could do the moslem fast, especially Nativity since sundown comes so early.  Don't eat all day and gorge when the sun goes down.  And eat whatever you want on top of it.  During the fast I usually just eat two meals anyway.

The slack Muslims definitely give us a run for the money on hypocritical fasting.  Others? Not so much.  Many regard it as a transfiguring experience that brings them closer to God. 

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Personally, I consider most of it to be Phaisaic.
It definitely has the potential to be (and frequently is).  There's clearly a reason why the Church deems it important though.  Much like going through the motions in prayer, if we simply abstain from some types of foods, it's not particularly helpful.  But fasting is an accepted and important part of Church praxis.  She believes that something is to be gained from sacrifice, experiencing hunger and thirst, while further modifying our behaviors.  Rules and guidelines are not, in themselves, Pharisaic.

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Fasting should be done in secret with a good countenance, not announcing every time you go out to eat with someone that you can't eat X because the fast doesn't allow for it.  Last week my roommate made some lasagna for dinner and said "hey, I even made it without meat so you can have some too!"  What do you say at that point?  When an atheist goes out of his way to account for part of a religion he doesn't even believe, I think that gives more glory to God than it would to smear your face with ash (figuratively speaking) and not eat.  I told him afterwards that cheese isn't allowed either but said that I wasn't fasting that week, then kept it thereafter.

Right, but fasting should nevertheless be done. As to your example: absolutely.  I do and would've done the same thing. 
I'm pretty bad at this whole thing, as I fluctuate between being overly stringent and overly lax, rarely finding the optimal place.  Then again, if people are comfortable and not struggling during Lent, I wonder what they're doing.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on March 08, 2012, 03:55:13 PM
For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
Muslims had/have their own loopholes. Hindus have boatloads.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 04:17:27 PM
For anyone who has tried to explain Orthodox "fasting" to a Muslim though, it becomes embarrassingly unimpressive and superficial if we include all of the loopholes.
Muslims had/have their own loopholes. Hindus have boatloads.

That may be, but I was pretty surprised when I learned that Orthodox "fasting" is "hey, we can have fish today". My idea of fasting is water fasting, which I do as a matter of health practice a few days a week. What Orthodox call "fasting" is what I call "abstinence".
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Νεκτάριος on March 08, 2012, 04:45:15 PM
Not to respond to any one point:

In Athens the high is 18 C and the low is 11 C.  In central Ukraine it is -4 C / -11 C.   It is a no brainer that fasting in a Mediterranean climate is going to be different than in the northern lands inhabited by millions of Orthodox.  I spend a lot of my day outside and do a lot of walking - simply existing burns a ton of calories.  Not a whole lot of people fast for lent, but it also isn't completely out of the ordinary.  For instance a number of restaurants will put fasting items on their menu during Lent.  IME Lent is the only fast lay people regularly keep.  Advent is less frequently encountered.  The weekly Wednesday / Friday fasts are basically never heard of.  Fish is pretty commonly considered lenten here; some of the supermarkets even run sales on fish advertising them as lenten. 

As for hatred of vegetables, I'm in shock.  First off get decent veggies.  I love steaming things.  They taste better and don't loose as many vitamins.  Also do forget to salt things.  If you eat a lot of processed foods everything is salted in the extreme, so if that is what you palette is used to put some salt on (and put good salt like sea salt or kosher salt).  You can make completely vegan lentil soups thats are great.  Google lentil soup recipes and a million will come up.  I love beets.  Boil them, shred them and either put a bit of oil or sour cream over them. 

I agree with what others have said - much of the Orthodox fasting is complete nonsense and pious showboating. 
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
As for hatred of vegetables, I'm in shock.  First off get decent veggies.  I love steaming things.  They taste better and don't loose as many vitamins.  Also do forget to salt things.  If you eat a lot of processed foods everything is salted in the extreme, so if that is what you palette is used to put some salt on (and put good salt like sea salt or kosher salt).  You can make completely vegan lentil soups thats are great.  Google lentil soup recipes and a million will come up.  I love beets.  Boil them, shred them and either put a bit of oil or sour cream over them. 

I agree with what others have said - much of the Orthodox fasting is complete nonsense and pious showboating. 

I agree with all of this. If you like, please go earlier in this thread to see a very good recipe for a vegan lentil soup.

I also agree on salt. I use kosher salt as my every day salt. Iodized salt has a bit of an off taste to me.

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 08, 2012, 05:05:07 PM
That may be, but I was pretty surprised when I learned that Orthodox "fasting" is "hey, we can have fish today". My idea of fasting is water fasting, which I do as a matter of health practice a few days a week. What Orthodox call "fasting" is what I call "abstinence".

The simple fact is that the vast majority of Orthodox, including nearly all of those who stress the importance of fasting, just don't fast - other than in the morning prior to Holy Communion. When the canons or the Fathers speak of fasting, it means no food or drink for a certain time (typically until the 9th Hour - 3pm). Abstaining from animal products, wine and oil is a supplement.

Of course, there are many times of the year when abstinence is prescribed, but fasting is not. On every Saturday and Sunday of Lent, for example, abstinence from animal products is prescribed, while fasting is prohibited by the canons.

Generally speaking, on days when oil or wine and not permitted, a total fast should be kept until the 9th Hour, after which a single vegan meal may be eaten. On days when oil and wine are permitted, animal products are a no no, but you can eat at any time of the day.


So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Sauron on March 08, 2012, 05:16:03 PM
So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.

Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Ortho_cat on March 08, 2012, 05:16:47 PM
so far i have "cooked" guacamole and pineapple cornbread for lent... :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on March 08, 2012, 06:04:35 PM
So yes, what most Orthodox call fasting is mere abstinence from animal products. Traditionally, however, the Orthodox Church prescribes a rather severe form of fasting that would make Ramadan seem rather trivial by comparison.

Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?



I could and have gone without food all day before, just make sure there's a cheeseburger waiting for me at the end.  The no drinking would be the real hard part.  Dehydration sucks.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 08, 2012, 06:06:14 PM
Ramadan fasting is no food, drink, smoking, or sex during daylight. One has to be pretty far from the equator at the right time of year for sunset to be before the ninth hour. (although I concede that there is feasting in the evening) What is the traditional Orthodox fasting practice that makes Ramadan look trivial?

Sex every night after sundown vs. no sex for 6 weeks (how many working couples have time to have sex during the day anyways?)

Meat, dairy, eggs, oil every night after sundown vs. no meat, dairy, eggs, oil (i.e. only raw, boiled or steamed foods) for 6 weeks.

Eating in the morning before dawn vs. no food since the previous evening.


Then you have days where you don't eat at all. During the first week of Lent, for example, a total fast is kept from Monday until the Liturgy of the Presanctified on Wednesday evening. Almost three days with no food or drink.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on March 08, 2012, 06:12:32 PM
Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules? My Priest really personalized mine for a couple reasons. The first and more important one is that I am prone to chronic migraines that can last two days and one of my triggers is not eating, and the second is that I'm a minor living in an un-Orthodox household. My fasting rules are basically to not eat anything between meals and when eating a meal, to only eat the bare minimum I need to get full, but no seconds.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Orthodox11 on March 08, 2012, 06:22:34 PM
Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules?

Given the severity of the Orthodox fasting rules when applied strictly, I would guess that probably almost every poster here has specialized fasting rules, even if they have not been given a specific set of guidelines by their priest.

I remember an Ethiopian woman looking at me with horror and saying "I thought you said you were Orthodox?" when she saw me drink a glass of water before 3pm on a Friday (it was 30C outside). I hate to think what would have happened if she'd seen me eating something. Exceptions like her aside, though, I don't think you'd find many people who didn't in some way bend the rules to account for health, climate, physical work, or simply just lack of willpower.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on July 16, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Here's what I had for lunch today.  Mmm, tasty...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on September 03, 2012, 09:12:04 PM
Earlier I had a tray of fast food french fries. Unfortunately they weren't from a fast food joint, they're just called that. I'm still hungry though so I'm having a bowl of tootie frooties, with some diet sunkist. Oh yeah! :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on September 03, 2012, 09:15:33 PM
Here's what I had for lunch today.  Mmm, tasty...
Ok so I assume a woman who can cook is at the top of your list when doing online dating searches right?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on September 03, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
Out of curiousity, how many of you here have specialized fasting rules? My Priest really personalized mine for a couple reasons. The first and more important one is that I am prone to chronic migraines that can last two days and one of my triggers is not eating, and the second is that I'm a minor living in an un-Orthodox household. My fasting rules are basically to not eat anything between meals and when eating a meal, to only eat the bare minimum I need to get full, but no seconds.

I try not to go longer than 12 hours without food. And I don't drink my carbs if I can help it. And I don't scarf down too many pizzas. Usually. All that has more to do with my diabetes though.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on September 04, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
Here's what I had for lunch today.  Mmm, tasty...
Ok so I assume a woman who can cook is at the top of your list when doing online dating searches right?

Au contraire, I have a pot of gumbo on the stove right now. 

First bite in is pretty good.  The cayenne gives an after-kick.  And you'd better believe it's okra heavy! 

[Three minutes later because I am typing this as I eat...] Raspberry ale does go good in gumbo.  I may or may not have knocked over my beer onto my bowl and my pants.  I'd make a great trailer park house wife as I am barefoot and in the kitchen.  And my stomach does give the impression of pregnancy.

But yeah, the gumbo is pretty good.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on September 04, 2012, 07:58:55 PM
Ok so what you need is a girl who is an expert in food coloring.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on September 12, 2012, 08:58:48 PM
Dinner tonight:
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on September 12, 2012, 08:59:30 PM
^ I'm afraid to ask what's in there  :D
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on September 12, 2012, 09:56:00 PM
I grilled up some ribs recently:
(http://i.imgur.com/TD5T5l.jpg?4169)
They were very good.
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Post by: Asteriktos on September 12, 2012, 10:05:39 PM
Cute pot holder!  ;D   Meat looks tasty as well...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on September 12, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
I grilled up some ribs recently:
(http://i.imgur.com/TD5T5l.jpg?4169)
They were very good.

No invite?

Your Bengals suck more than ever.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesRottnek on September 13, 2012, 01:08:19 AM
I recently discovered, after running out of the cooked food I'd brought with me to my apartment, that I can cook (at least) basic food to a decent level.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on September 15, 2012, 07:17:30 PM
I grilled up some ribs recently:
(http://i.imgur.com/TD5T5l.jpg?4169)
They were very good.

No invite?

Your Bengals suck more than ever.
Ah, I KNEW I was forgetting something. Two things actually. Inviting you and garlic powder. Won't happen again. Not sure how my folks will feel about internet people showing up for dinner, or how my sisters will handle the presence of such good lookingness, but you will receive an invite.

And yeah, Monday night was an awful display, but there's no guarantee that wasn't a fluke!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on October 27, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
I just watched a segment on TV on how they make black pudding. Truly the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Europeans are crazy.
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Post by: Cyrillic on October 27, 2012, 04:47:54 PM
I just watched a segment on TV on how they make black pudding. Truly the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Europeans are crazy.

But only the British do that  :'(
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on October 27, 2012, 05:10:58 PM
I've been improving the art of making hamburgers lately. After many failures in achieving a crunchy exterior with a juicy interior, I followed my boss advice and acquired a thick cast iron frypan. Perfection. :)

I use normal minced meat, barbecue salt, arabic pepper. Today I added chipotle and it was very good. :)

Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on October 27, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
I can prepare a mean Top Ramen--with my mother's guidance of course.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Cyrillic on October 27, 2012, 05:44:45 PM
I can prepare a mean Top Ramen--with my mother's guidance of course.

Same here.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HabteSelassie on October 27, 2012, 06:00:22 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I've been improving the art of making hamburgers lately. After many failures in achieving a crunchy exterior with a juicy interior, I followed my boss advice and acquired a thick cast iron frypan. Perfection. :)

I use normal minced meat, barbecue salt, arabic pepper. Today I added chipotle and it was very good. :)



My grandmother only cooks red meat on cast-iron.  Its the way to go but I'm to lazy, its a serious clean up. 

The trick to hamburgers is the same as steak, long and low, and only flip twice. This keeps the flavor and juices inside, and DON'T smash it with a spatula, that dries it out!  Let the meat cook slowly and simmer. For hamburgers its about 4 minutes a side, for steaks about 7-10 minutes a side.  I used to get these Brisket steaks, Lord have His mercy that was good meat.  However, typically brisket, even a little 3/4 lb 1 inch steak took a solid HOUR in the pan..

Just finished cooking some delicious chuck steak with sauted onions, pan fried with the long and low method.  I usually cook Rib Eye, its worth bein a steak snob when you find the good deals and through it in the freezer.  Patience is a virtue when it comes to pan frying a steak, because you need to cook out the grease without drying out the meat.  I haven't been cooking much lately, everybody in the house has been so busy and on different schedules it hasn't been worth the trouble just to cook for me, so I've been eating out.  Plus, a few good take-out joints in walking distance of my house have simply blown away my kitchen, and I cook fairly well at that!

My favorite things to make at home:

Fried Chicken Breast Fritters, hand battered.  Nothing beats hand battered chicken, period.  Its taken me years to get down a perfect marinade and flour ratio.  Marinade is the key here, chicken is essentially without flavor, so you need to add this.  Most people don't, and their chicken is bland.  I got the best marinades for the right chicken.  I make mine Cajun spicy, and I add some green curry to the marinade for that zing minus the burn.  I also put red chile powders in the flour with black pepper.  No eggs, just milk, and double dip the milk-flour-milk-flour method to get the perfect texture.  I learned that watching the folks at Churches Chicken ;)

I also make different marinades to pan fry Chicken Fajitas or tacos by making it more spicy and adding onions, bell peppers, and cilantro to the marinade.  I love that too..  Heat up some tortillas LA ghetto-fabulously on the burner and dinner is served, and you don't have to have that pretend from-a-can-or-a-bag "Mexican" (err. Mexican't) food  :police:

Nobody messes with my home-fries y'all, no one!  Pass the ketchup please..

I can essentially cook chicken anyone you need too.  Of course I'm no good on the grill  :-\

During fasting season you've got to have my beans and rice, its a blend of Mexican style meets Jamaican peas and rice.  Bam Bam deliciosos! I do much more cooking during fasting season, spiced lentil patties, curried chick peas, beans and rice, veggie burgers, stir fry with cabbage and veggies, sometimes I splurge and get that soy-protein "American food" like Chick'N and make some country fried chicken or take-out Chinese style Orange Chicken.  Rice is the hardest thing I EVER learned to make, and it still always gets me nervous like a first date in middle school.

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on November 02, 2012, 01:07:37 AM
I'm improving my skill with fried chicken.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on November 02, 2012, 01:16:54 AM
Habte, please post recipes for everything you just said.

Sincerely,
My salivating mouth.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: HabteSelassie on November 02, 2012, 03:15:41 PM
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Habte, please post recipes for everything you just said.

Sincerely,
My salivating mouth.

(http://cpub.s3.amazonaws.com/images/business/b_2011032312021010)

stay blessed,
habte selassie
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: TheMathematician on November 02, 2012, 03:23:25 PM
I've been improving the art of making hamburgers lately. After many failures in achieving a crunchy exterior with a juicy interior, I followed my boss advice and acquired a thick cast iron frypan. Perfection. :)

I use normal minced meat, barbecue salt, arabic pepper. Today I added chipotle and it was very good. :)



you have to braai hamburgers, there is seriously no other way to perfect them. I mean, yes, you can cook them inside or on a pan, but putting them on the braai is the absolute best way
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 03, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
I've been improving the art of making hamburgers lately. After many failures in achieving a crunchy exterior with a juicy interior, I followed my boss advice and acquired a thick cast iron frypan. Perfection. :)

I use normal minced meat, barbecue salt, arabic pepper. Today I added chipotle and it was very good. :)



you have to braai hamburgers, there is seriously no other way to perfect them. I mean, yes, you can cook them inside or on a pan, but putting them on the braai is the absolute best way

I live in an apartment, and being a single man and having no woman around to stop me from doing silly and potentially lethal experiments, I did try to light one of these things in the laundry. It's nice if you like the smell of coal and meat in the place you live for a couple of days. :)

On the plus side, I just made burguers filled with requeijão (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requeij%C3%A3o). Precious. :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on November 03, 2012, 11:29:01 AM

The trick to hamburgers is the same as steak, long and low, and only flip twice. This keeps the flavor and juices inside, and DON'T smash it with a spatula, that dries it out!  Let the meat cook slowly and simmer. For hamburgers its about 4 minutes a side, for steaks about 7-10 minutes a side.  I used to get these Brisket steaks, Lord have His mercy that was good meat.  However, typically brisket, even a little 3/4 lb 1 inch steak took a solid HOUR in the pan..

How done does that get it? I generally find about 2-3 minutes a side on the grill is good for steak, and you need to have as much heat as you can get. So pretty much the opposite of what you said.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Opus118 on November 03, 2012, 09:57:28 PM
On the plus side, I just made burguers filled with requeijão (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requeij%C3%A3o). Precious. :)

From this description, it sounds like the requeijão was stuffed within the ground meat. For example, rolling the ground meat with a rolling pin, adding the requeijão in the middle and then folding the ground mead over it. Alternatively, you could be referring to using the requeijão as a sauce which is poured on top of the ground beef. The former sounds more interesting, the latter sounds like a variation of a cheese burger (although possibly superior to cheddar cheese). Our Ricotta brand here is called Precious, so it must be good for this purpose.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 03, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
Get a layer of raw meat, requeijão over it, and another layer of meat. carefully seal with the meat itself and then fry it. :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Marc1152 on November 03, 2012, 10:34:37 PM
My grandmother only cooks red meat on cast-iron.  Its the way to go but I'm to lazy, its a serious clean up.


I switched to cast-iron a few months ago and yes there is more of a clean up. It also doesn't heat as evenly as non-stick pans. But the Iron eventually becomes "Seasoned" and adds some taste to the food. Once it gets hot it stays very hot.  I like using it a lot and would not go back.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on November 04, 2012, 08:05:45 PM
My grandmother only cooks red meat on cast-iron.  Its the way to go but I'm to lazy, its a serious clean up.


I switched to cast-iron a few months ago and yes there is more of a clean up. It also doesn't heat as evenly as non-stick pans. But the Iron eventually becomes "Seasoned" and adds some taste to the food. Once it gets hot it stays very hot.  I like using it a lot and would not go back.
Im a southerner so I fully believe in the power of the cast iron skillet...luckily my Yankee wife is allowing me to buy a few iron skillets....cant wait to cook deer on them :)

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on March 02, 2013, 04:35:56 PM
(http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/01/70/03/13/0001700313583_500X500.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RAysAk-Q5zQ/TOqsD5-FvPI/AAAAAAAAAS8/GP_nvz4IbBk/s1600/nabisco-ritz-crackers.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: biro on March 02, 2013, 04:56:36 PM
I just got a cheese knife and a fruit trimmer, so I'll be making lots of little snacks.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Arachne on March 02, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
I cook as a matter of course. I got a family to feed, after all. :)

My specialties are pasta sauces (bolognese and a few variations I improvised), chilli (meaty or vegetarian), veggie curry, and my mum's recipe for a ground beef mix that can make a meatloaf or burger patties. I can do a full roast with all the trimmings single-handed as well, and I love my slow cooker. And my husband claims I brew the best coffee he can get. ;)

I'm not a chef, but nobody in this house goes hungry if I can make my way to the kitchen.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on March 23, 2013, 12:55:10 AM
(http://di1-1.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/50/c7/f7/91293309-260x260-0-0_Kraft+Kraft+Macaroni+Cheese+Dinner+Three+Cheese+wi.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: stanley123 on March 23, 2013, 12:57:34 AM
I cook as a matter of course. I got a family to feed, after all. :)

My specialties are pasta sauces (bolognese and a few variations I improvised), chilli (meaty or vegetarian), veggie curry, and my mum's recipe for a ground beef mix that can make a meatloaf or burger patties. I can do a full roast with all the trimmings single-handed as well, and I love my slow cooker. And my husband claims I brew the best coffee he can get. ;)

I'm not a chef, but nobody in this house goes hungry if I can make my way to the kitchen.
Sounds really great. I am sure that there are people here who are interested in your recipe for vegetable curry, and your secret for brewing coffee.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Arachne on March 23, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
I cook as a matter of course. I got a family to feed, after all. :)

My specialties are pasta sauces (bolognese and a few variations I improvised), chilli (meaty or vegetarian), veggie curry, and my mum's recipe for a ground beef mix that can make a meatloaf or burger patties. I can do a full roast with all the trimmings single-handed as well, and I love my slow cooker. And my husband claims I brew the best coffee he can get. ;)

I'm not a chef, but nobody in this house goes hungry if I can make my way to the kitchen.
Sounds really great. I am sure that there are people here who are interested in your recipe for vegetable curry, and your secret for brewing coffee.

There's no secret in the coffee brewing; it's just a matter of finding the coffee you like best and the right quantity to put in. It took me several weeks of experimentation when I moved here, and when our coffee maker died and we got a different one, I spend a week or so making adjustments to the quantities to get the right effect again. Same when circumstances forced me to switch to a French press. Successful brewing doesn't require state-of-the-art equipment or gourmet supplies - only intimate knowledge of both your equipment and your supplies. :)

As for the vegetable curry recipe, it can be found here (http://whitepaintedwoman.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/580/). ;)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on March 23, 2013, 04:59:16 PM
Grilling season is gonna start up soon! Sorry all you Lent-observing types.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: WPM on March 23, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
I usually haul in the groceries for the kitchen
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Arachne on March 23, 2013, 05:42:32 PM
Grilling season is gonna start up soon! Sorry all you Lent-observing types.

You mean you don't do grilled vegetables? Shame.
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Post by: Shlomlokh on March 23, 2013, 05:55:06 PM
Dinner tonight:
Kimchi? Nice. I just made jjajangmyun for the first time and it was delicious. Do you make your own kimchi?

In Christ,
Andrew
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on March 24, 2013, 12:17:03 AM
Grilling season is gonna start up soon! Sorry all you Lent-observing types.

You mean you don't do grilled vegetables? Shame.
Occasionally. Meat is my true joy in life though.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 24, 2013, 01:28:51 AM
It's been months since I've had a filet mignon. I need to change that.
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Post by: JamesR on March 24, 2013, 02:16:51 AM
(http://www.ramenplace.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/m/a/maruchan-top-ramen-beef.jpg)

I can make a mean Ramen--with my mother's help of course  :angel:
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 24, 2013, 02:19:02 AM
Anybody eat Ramen straight from the bag?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on March 24, 2013, 02:38:44 AM
Sounds hardcore. I cook at least one package a day. Goes well with a half dozen ritz crackers.
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Post by: Shiny on March 24, 2013, 02:41:35 AM
Sounds hardcore. I cook at least one package a day. Goes well with a half dozen ritz crackers.
Try Ramen with spaghetti sauce, but cook the noodles in a pot.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on March 24, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Try frying eggs with some noodles in the pan.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on March 24, 2013, 05:13:17 PM
Gosh I love smoked salmon, one more day until I can have it!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on May 15, 2013, 08:17:08 AM
Talking about breakfast on the other thread, I remembered a classic Brazilian breakfast food that you can have specially if you eat at coffee shops: the cheese bread. Originally from the rural area of the state of Minas Gerais, it's associated with the large farms of old.

Here's a recipe:

PÃO DE QUEIJO – Cheese bread

500g Sour Cassava Starch (sometimes also called tapioca starch or manioc starch)
2 cups of milk
1 cup of cooking oil
4 eggs
1 cup of finely crumbled Feta cheese (actually, I have seen people use different kinds of cheese, you can experiment with that, using just one kind of cheese or any combination to your taste. The classic one is made with Minas Cheesehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minas_cheese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minas_cheese))
1 cups of grated parmesan cheese
1 tbsp of salt

How to prepare:

1.Boil the milk the oil and salt together.

2.Pour the hot mixture it into a large bowl with the sour starch and mix with a wooden spoon. The mixture will look like a large ball of gummy paste.

3.Let it cool and mix in the cheese and the eggs. Get your hands in there and squelch everything together into a smooth thick dough.

4.Grab chucks of it with your fingers and roll in the palm of your hands making little balls just smaller than a golf ball.

5.Place the dough balls on a tray. Pão de Queijo will grow around 20-30% as they cook, so leave some space between them.

6.Place them in the top shelf of your oven at 190c and let them grow for 15 minutes.

7.Reduce the temperature (around 150c) and cook for another 15 minutes. They should look golden brown and crackly and crusty outside. But inside your Pão de Queijo will still be nice and gooey… and cheesy!
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Or you can order the preparation (almost) ready to bake, here: http://www.brazilianshop.com/BSHOP-32671-Pao-de-Queijo---Yoki--250g- (http://www.brazilianshop.com/BSHOP-32671-Pao-de-Queijo---Yoki--250g-)
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One way or the other, that's how they should look like: http://is.gd/cbMVdr (http://is.gd/cbMVdr)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: jmbejdl on May 15, 2013, 08:32:45 AM
Talking about breakfast on the other thread, I remembered a classic Brazilian breakfast food that you can have specially if you eat at coffee shops: the cheese bread. Originally from the rural area of the state of Minas Gerais, it's associated with the large farms of old.

Here's a recipe:

PÃO DE QUEIJO – Cheese bread

500g Sour Cassava Starch (sometimes also called tapioca starch or manioc starch)
2 cups of milk
1 cup of cooking oil
4 eggs
1 cup of finely crumbled Feta cheese (actually, I have seen people use different kinds of cheese, you can experiment with that, using just one kind of cheese or any combination to your taste. The classic one is made with Minas Cheesehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minas_cheese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minas_cheese))
1 cups of grated parmesan cheese
1 tbsp of salt

How to prepare:

1.Boil the milk the oil and salt together.

2.Pour the hot mixture it into a large bowl with the sour starch and mix with a wooden spoon. The mixture will look like a large ball of gummy paste.

3.Let it cool and mix in the cheese and the eggs. Get your hands in there and squelch everything together into a smooth thick dough.

4.Grab chucks of it with your fingers and roll in the palm of your hands making little balls just smaller than a golf ball.

5.Place the dough balls on a tray. Pão de Queijo will grow around 20-30% as they cook, so leave some space between them.

6.Place them in the top shelf of your oven at 190c and let them grow for 15 minutes.

7.Reduce the temperature (around 150c) and cook for another 15 minutes. They should look golden brown and crackly and crusty outside. But inside your Pão de Queijo will still be nice and gooey… and cheesy!
-----------------------------------


Or you can order the preparation (almost) ready to bake, here: http://www.brazilianshop.com/BSHOP-32671-Pao-de-Queijo---Yoki--250g- (http://www.brazilianshop.com/BSHOP-32671-Pao-de-Queijo---Yoki--250g-)
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One way or the other, that's how they should look like: http://is.gd/cbMVdr (http://is.gd/cbMVdr)

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on May 15, 2013, 09:03:17 AM
Unfortunately we do. I think the rationale behind that is that in regular house cooking people are more likely to have cups at home than a kitchen balance.

But Google has done it again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=converting+cups&meta=

If you want tables though, this one is good:

http://www.jsward.com/cooking/conversion.shtml

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: jmbejdl on May 15, 2013, 09:14:46 AM
Unfortunately we do. I think the rationale behind that is that in regular house cooking people are more likely to have cups at home than a kitchen balance.

But Google has done it again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=converting+cups&meta=

If you want tables though, this one is good:

http://www.jsward.com/cooking/conversion.shtml

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James

Thanks. I'd found your second link before. It's about the best I've come across, though it's hardly what I'd call a comprehensive list. As the problems are caused by the use of cups with dry ingredients, the Google link you gave is not much use. Knowing the volume of a cup in ml is only really useful for liquids.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on May 15, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
Well, you can always create your own table. I am to buy my own kitchen balance for that. :)


Unfortunately we do. I think the rationale behind that is that in regular house cooking people are more likely to have cups at home than a kitchen balance.

But Google has done it again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=converting+cups&meta=

If you want tables though, this one is good:

http://www.jsward.com/cooking/conversion.shtml

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James

Thanks. I'd found your second link before. It's about the best I've come across, though it's hardly what I'd call a comprehensive list. As the problems are caused by the use of cups with dry ingredients, the Google link you gave is not much use. Knowing the volume of a cup in ml is only really useful for liquids.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: jmbejdl on May 15, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
Well, you can always create your own table. I am to buy my own kitchen balance for that. :)


Unfortunately we do. I think the rationale behind that is that in regular house cooking people are more likely to have cups at home than a kitchen balance.

But Google has done it again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=converting+cups&meta=

If you want tables though, this one is good:

http://www.jsward.com/cooking/conversion.shtml

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James

Thanks. I'd found your second link before. It's about the best I've come across, though it's hardly what I'd call a comprehensive list. As the problems are caused by the use of cups with dry ingredients, the Google link you gave is not much use. Knowing the volume of a cup in ml is only really useful for liquids.

James

But I'd need to buy American measuring cups. I've never even seen one and if I had some I suppose I could live with using them rather than scales. It is a really weird difference though. Over here (and by here I mean Europe in general not just the UK) I've never known anyone who didn't have a set of kitchen scales and the idea of measuring dry ingredients (particularly if the size can vary a lot, say with chopped nuts or the like) by volume rather than weight is just odd. It seems so incredibly imprecise. I can't imagine how you'd bake that way - that's always struck me as closer to chemistry than cooking given how precise you need to be with your measures.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on May 15, 2013, 10:44:31 AM
I'm first visual and palatal with that. I put more or less the same quantity from that one time when it worked. Then I keep tasting to check if it tastes the same. Usually it works. I should get more disciplined though and take notes of measures. :)

Well, you can always create your own table. I am to buy my own kitchen balance for that. :)


Unfortunately we do. I think the rationale behind that is that in regular house cooking people are more likely to have cups at home than a kitchen balance.

But Google has done it again: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=converting+cups&meta=

If you want tables though, this one is good:

http://www.jsward.com/cooking/conversion.shtml

Do you use cups as measures in Brazil? I thought that was just a US thing. Honestly, it's one of the banes of my life when I find an interesting looking recipe only to find that I then have to spend ages trying to convert all the measures into something I can actually understand. It's not so bad with liquids but dry foods are a nightmare. Why on earth would anyone measure a cup of nuts rather than weighing them?

Incidentally, if anyone knows of a good resource for converting US measures to something more sensible (metric preferably but even Imperial would do), I'd be very grateful.

James

Thanks. I'd found your second link before. It's about the best I've come across, though it's hardly what I'd call a comprehensive list. As the problems are caused by the use of cups with dry ingredients, the Google link you gave is not much use. Knowing the volume of a cup in ml is only really useful for liquids.

James

But I'd need to buy American measuring cups. I've never even seen one and if I had some I suppose I could live with using them rather than scales. It is a really weird difference though. Over here (and by here I mean Europe in general not just the UK) I've never known anyone who didn't have a set of kitchen scales and the idea of measuring dry ingredients (particularly if the size can vary a lot, say with chopped nuts or the like) by volume rather than weight is just odd. It seems so incredibly imprecise. I can't imagine how you'd bake that way - that's always struck me as closer to chemistry than cooking given how precise you need to be with your measures.

James
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: genesisone on May 15, 2013, 10:46:30 AM
Talking about breakfast on the other thread, I remembered a classic Brazilian breakfast food that you can have specially if you eat at coffee shops: the cheese bread. Originally from the rural area of the state of Minas Gerais, it's associated with the large farms of old.

Here's a recipe:

PÃO DE QUEIJO – Cheese bread
Sounds and looks like what we knew as chipa in Paraguay. Never tried making it myself, but this recipe seems simple enough.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Fabio Leite on May 15, 2013, 10:53:36 AM
It does look the same. :)

Talking about breakfast on the other thread, I remembered a classic Brazilian breakfast food that you can have specially if you eat at coffee shops: the cheese bread. Originally from the rural area of the state of Minas Gerais, it's associated with the large farms of old.

Here's a recipe:

PÃO DE QUEIJO – Cheese bread
Sounds and looks like what we knew as chipa in Paraguay. Never tried making it myself, but this recipe seems simple enough.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: JamesR on May 15, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
(http://www.ramenplace.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/m/a/maruchan-top-ramen-beef.jpg)

I can make a mean Ramen, now without my mother's supervision  :D
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Arachne on May 15, 2013, 02:30:22 PM
I can make a mean Ramen, now without my mother's supervision  :D

(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Swedish-Chef-Ramsay-8.png)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 14, 2013, 07:21:07 PM
Ahhhhhhrrrrrrggggghhhhhhggggg BLAH. I shouldn't have ate that entire king size candy bar. . .  :(
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 14, 2013, 07:23:19 PM
Ahhhhhhrrrrrrggggghhhhhhggggg BLAH. I shouldn't have ate that entire king size candy bar. . .  :(
i will pray for your digestive bowels
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: RehamG on June 14, 2013, 08:52:27 PM
Mahshy. Yea, it ain't very pretty but it wasn't cooked yet either.

I like cooking; my personal passion. I could post a ton of pics since I like to photograph my food like a weirdo but I'll spare you guys. :P
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 03:01:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/086uFLs.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on June 17, 2013, 03:09:30 PM
I could post a ton of pics since I like to photograph my food like a weirdo but I'll spare you guys.

No, you are not weird. You are quite normal. It seems many people think what they eat is of great interest to others for some reason. When I didn't think the cellphone could make eating worse with people talking and txting, they now seem really keen on photographing what they are eating and sharing with all their friends not at the table. And talking and txting with those same friends not at the table about the meal.

I've nearly given up on confiscating people's phones.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 03:19:44 PM
Taking pics of your food adds a cool hipster sheen to an otherwise lackluster personality.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 03:20:45 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on June 17, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: sheenj on June 17, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
Taking pics of your food adds a cool hipster sheen to an otherwise lackluster personality.

And if anyone else wants to add a cool hipster Sheen, just give me a PM.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.
Sardines.

...

Why don't you make Vienna sausages and SPAM tonight?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: J Michael on June 17, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.
Sardines.

...

Why don't you make Vienna sausages and SPAM tonight?

It just wouldn't give him the same olfactory thrill about three hours after eating.  And everyone knows that the joy of eating lies as much in the nose as on the tongue.

His willingness to share with you though, is truly touching.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: vamrat on June 17, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.

Nice.  I love kippered herring and baked beans.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.
Sardines.

...

Why don't you make Vienna sausages and SPAM tonight?

It just wouldn't give him the same olfactory thrill about three hours after eating.  And everyone knows that the joy of eating lies as much in the nose as on the tongue.

His willingness to share with you though, is truly touching.
Good thing cell phones can't share smells yet.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: J Michael on June 17, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
Well my cooking is pretty great and the world should know about it.

And what I eat is the most important meal of the day for just about everybody

I've had pretty much nada so far today.

I am thinking beans and sardines tonight. If I could send you the smell of my dinner and my environment about three hours after eating, I would for sure.
Sardines.

...

Why don't you make Vienna sausages and SPAM tonight?

It just wouldn't give him the same olfactory thrill about three hours after eating.  And everyone knows that the joy of eating lies as much in the nose as on the tongue.

His willingness to share with you though, is truly touching.
Good thing cell phones can't share smells yet.

Amen, amen, amen!!!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
I bet we'll have at least a crude form of smellivision within the next 20 years...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
I'd give orthonorm a good ribbing publicly, but I play too much inside baseball for it to be considered a home run.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: primuspilus on June 17, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
Cooking the Achilles's Heel of King Richard I.....roasted chicken :)

PP
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: WPM on June 17, 2013, 05:44:37 PM
I was a steakhouse chef sometime after high school.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 05:47:23 PM
FYI: Milk + Fruit Loops + A1 Sauce = Yuck
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 06:23:25 PM
FYI: Milk + Fruit Loops + A1 Sauce = Yuck
you are the poorest dude on this board
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Arachne on June 17, 2013, 06:30:43 PM
Cooking the Achilles's Heel of King Richard I.....roasted chicken :)

PP

That's what I made yesterday. Today I casseroled the leftovers with onion, carrot and peas. There was enough for tonight's dinner (with chips) and for a good batch of pies.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
FYI: Milk + Fruit Loops + A1 Sauce = Yuck
you are the poorest dude on this board

Well, some people put sriracha on almost everything. I figured, why not A1?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 06:38:27 PM
FYI: Milk + Fruit Loops + A1 Sauce = Yuck
you are the poorest dude on this board

Well, some people put sriracha on almost everything. I figured, why not A1?

A1 and Milk...and Fruit Loops...what is wrong with you.

I eat ketchup with everything, but cereal is a big no.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 06:42:35 PM
You're approaching 10,000 posts on this forum. That's a huge step towards the final and utter ruination of your real world credibility.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 06:45:44 PM
You're approaching 10,000 posts on this forum. That's a huge step towards the final and utter ruination of your real world credibility.
I never had real world credibility.

I'm going deep underground son!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on June 17, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
I figured out how to get some smoke going on my gas grill. My ribs have gotten even awesomer.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 07:05:13 PM
I figured out how to get some smoke going on my gas grill. My ribs have gotten even awesomer.
Yo I will seriously make the trip to where you live in Cincinatti.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 07:11:12 PM
Sorry, Dayton, right?

I'll even buy the food
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: orthonorm on June 17, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
I figured out how to get some smoke going on my gas grill. My ribs have gotten even awesomer.
Yo I will seriously make the trip to where you live in Cincinatti.

He ain't in Cincinnati..
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: That person on June 17, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
Sorry, Dayton, right?

I'll even buy the food
That's correct. I'll be going to college in Memphis, so you may or may not catch me, but I'd be down for this.
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 17, 2013, 08:22:05 PM
A1 and Milk...and Fruit Loops...what is wrong with you.

I eat ketchup with everything, but cereal is a big no.

I tried fried bologna with A1... better results, but still not a perfect pairing... I guess my palate is just too refined...  ;D
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Shiny on June 17, 2013, 08:37:17 PM
Sorry, Dayton, right?

I'll even buy the food
That's correct. I'll be going to college in Memphis, so you may or may not catch me, but I'd be down for this.
Well you are in Dayton the whole summer right?

Let's BBQ it up.

And we will throw every post of orthonorm's into Hume's bonfire!
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 24, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
PM me for the recipe

(http://i.imgur.com/BTzIyVE.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: RobS on September 19, 2015, 09:56:58 PM
My terrible attempt at Greek cooking. A little early for lentil soup but whatever. Also did potatoes with lemon and garlic. Served with bread and wine. Trying to adhere to Greek eating for a month.

(http://i.imgur.com/X25kn5E.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: RobS on September 19, 2015, 10:03:58 PM
I can only hope Justin isn't eating 40 Banquet TV dinners and 4 liters of Diet Sunkist no mo

By any chance is that just out of lazineess? You should take a look at Soylent 2.0  :)
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Asteriktos on September 19, 2015, 10:39:44 PM
Life isn't worth the effort, much less so cooking...
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: hecma925 on September 19, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
Trying to adhere to Greek eating for a month.

Any particular reason why?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: Musashi on September 28, 2015, 11:56:17 PM
I am just curious whether there is anyone here who has a simple recipe of SPANAKOPITA?
Is it easy to make?
Title: Re: Do you cook?
Post by: NicholasMyra on September 28, 2015, 11:58:56 PM
Fillo, lemon, spinach, butter, olive oil, zataar. That is my standard.

It is easy to make but time-consuming.