OrthodoxChristianity.net

Moderated Forums => Liturgy => Topic started by: William on May 15, 2011, 09:28:31 PM

Title: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: William on May 15, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
I never got to attend any Holy Week services this year except for the morning Liturgy on Great and Holy Saturday. But when I was looking through the photos of the services I saw that they all seemed pretty dark and shadowy. Is it customary to make the Church dark during Holy Week?
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: biro on May 15, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
In my parish, there was darkness (no light except for candles) on Holy Thursday evening, and of course there is the preparatory 'lights out' before the candles on Holy Saturday evening. I believe this is to show us that Christ is the Light.  :)
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: akimori makoto on May 15, 2011, 10:14:27 PM
At my parish, instead of allowing the hundreds of lit candles to light the church during the "defte, lavete fos"/"come receive the light" on Holy Saturday evening, the over-zealous ushers hit the electricity as soon as the choir started on "tin anastasi sou"/"of your resurrection".

I know I risk being accused of being hyper-orthodox and making an idol of traditions by saying this, but I thought it was so tacky and ruined the vibe/symbolism. It's such a beautiful thing to see the light of the resurrection physically shared amongst the people, having emerged from the darkened sanctuary as if from a tomb. Just hitting the lights doesn't seem to have the same effect.
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: biro on May 15, 2011, 10:16:21 PM
Yikes. I'd be disappointed, too.  :-\
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: akimori makoto on May 15, 2011, 10:22:35 PM
Once the Greeks get their head around a piece of technology it is like a kitten with a ball of yarn.
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on May 15, 2011, 10:38:53 PM
I think if somebody did that at my church I might actually request a redo.
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: akimori makoto on May 15, 2011, 10:42:19 PM
So glad some people are on the same page. I was expecting to be told to focus more on the resurrection and less on the lighting, hahah.

I might gently suggest that the practice be discontinued next year.

Apologies for hijacking thread.
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: Altar Server on May 15, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
I think if somebody did that at my church I might actually request a redo.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have to worry about that at your parish Alveus :D
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: Basil 320 on May 16, 2011, 12:21:22 AM
We keep our church dark during Great Week (not so much during the Holy Unction Service on Wednesday afternoon and evening), darkest after the procession of Holy and Great Friday, conducted on Thursday evening--people complain because they can't see to read their service books.  More lighting beginning during the Lamentations on Friday evening and the Vesperal Liturgy of Saturday morning; the brightest possible after the chanting of Christ is Risen at Midnight.
Title: Re: Darkness in Holy Week?
Post by: Tikhon.of.Colorado on May 16, 2011, 12:47:23 AM
In my parish, there was darkness (no light except for candles) on Holy Thursday evening, and of course there is the preparatory 'lights out' before the candles on Holy Saturday evening. I believe this is to show us that Christ is the Light.  :)
totally.  I could NOT SEE A THING in the altar on Holy Saturday evening.  I was scolded by the priest for lighting the lighter so I could see which vestment was mine  :D  the only light on Pascha is the Paschal flame, which is used to light the Church after (or while, in most cases) it is processed with by the faithful.  that is...except for the candle that burns before the offerings on the table of oblation.

(http://antiochian.org/assets/writer/Metropolitan.NicholasCathedralBrooklynNY_ECDB/Receive_the_Light_3.jpg)