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Title: begining of Lent
Post by: Russell on March 08, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
Why is there different start times for lent?

Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: augustin717 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
I think it's because the Orthodox do not count the Sundays and Saturdays in  the number of 40, but the Catholics count the Saturdays or something like that.
The Ambrosian rite only starts Lent this coming Monday, after the Sunday called "in capite Quadragesimae", "at the head of Lent".

Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: Melodist on March 08, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
I don't know, but if you count from clean monday to the friday before Lazarus Saturday, it adds up to 40 days, which is not counting Lazarus Saturday, Palm Sunday, or Holy week.
Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: mike on March 08, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
The Orthodox do not count Lazarus Saturday, Entrance to Jerusalem Sunday and Holy Week into the Great Lent. Catholics do not count Holy Week only so the RCC begins Lent 2 days later (Wednesday instead of Monday).
Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: augustin717 on March 08, 2011, 11:24:17 AM
I don't know, but if you count from clean monday to the friday before Lazarus Saturday, it adds up to 40 days, which is not counting Lazarus Saturday, Palm Sunday, or Holy week.
Yeah, the Great Week is not counted in the number of the forty.
I might have been said a stupid thing when I excluded the Sundays and the Saturdays from the number of 40 though. I do not know. I guess 40 is a relative thing and more of an ideal realized differently in the various rites.
Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: Melodist on March 08, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
I don't know, but if you count from clean monday to the friday before Lazarus Saturday, it adds up to 40 days, which is not counting Lazarus Saturday, Palm Sunday, or Holy week.
Yeah, the Great Week is not counted in the number of the forty.
I might have been said a stupid thing when I excluded the Sundays and the Saturdays from the number of 40 though. I do not know. I guess 40 is a relative thing and more of an ideal realized differently in the various rites.

I just counted the days on the calendar. While the 40 days that I counted would include saturdays and sundays, the icon calendar that I have calls for wine and oil on saturdays and sundays so that they are not kept as strictly as week days.
Title: Re: begining of Lent
Post by: Shanghaiski on March 08, 2011, 11:46:27 AM
I've read that, in much of the Orthodox West, before the schism, Lent used to begin on Monday, but then it was changed to Ash Wednesday, and the clergy fasted Monday and Tuesday.