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Title: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 01:43:05 AM
I just started getting into scotch lately and I love it! Contrary to popular practice, I jumped right into the single malts. I got Aberlour 12 and Highland Park 12. I tend to prefer the peatiness/smokiness of the HP over the Aberlour, but I enjoy them both. How bout the rest of you?
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: vamrat on November 19, 2010, 02:04:35 AM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel.  Bourbon on the other hand...  Give me a glass of Eagle Rare, Maker's Mark, or even good old Evan Williams (more alcohol, same taste, and better price than Jack Daniels) and I'm a happy guy. 
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Elisha on November 19, 2010, 02:18:11 AM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel.  Bourbon on the other hand...  Give me a glass of Eagle Rare, Maker's Mark, or even good old Evan Williams (more alcohol, same taste, and better price than Jack Daniels) and I'm a happy guy. 

I did a Bourbon "flight" a couple of weeks ago.  Not really a fan of bourbon/scotch/whisky, but I think an Eagle Rare was one of the three.  Two of the three (the Eagle being one of those two) really impressed me.  Just SO smooooooth.....

But I'm more into wine and beer....
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 02:18:45 AM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel. 

that's quite the discerning palate you have there!  :D
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Rafa999 on November 19, 2010, 02:22:49 AM
A nice crisp coca-cola. Heavy on the peatiness/smokiness gaseous water texture, acidic aftertast with hint of sugar. Had a very good one from some of those small little collector's bottles they sell in dollar shops the other day, highly recommend.

Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Jakub on November 19, 2010, 02:39:51 AM
I'm partial to Jack, got a bottle of Pendelton Whisky for my birthday, expect a taste during the NFR in December...
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Iconodule on November 19, 2010, 08:20:19 AM
"You're sweeter, stronger, decenter, you're spunkier than tay! O, whiskey you're me darlin' drunk or sober!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPIC-o1O3k
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 19, 2010, 08:34:02 AM
I used to not drink anything. I don't like the taste of alcohol itself. Then I went to meet father's side of family in Portugal. "Do you drink?" is not part of the local idioms. They simply pour wine into huge glasses in every meal. When my father's cousin took me on a tour trip to Oporto guess which were the touristic points he showed me... all the wine producers in town, who, by the way, *are* organized and prepared to receive tour groups with tour guides and all and where you can taste just about every kind of wine ever produced by man.

After this experience I learned, I wouldn't say like, but to drink wine. I may enjoy one glass, but that's all.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Bob L. on November 19, 2010, 09:03:18 AM
Try a blind taste test between a single malt and a blended.  See if you can tell the difference.  When I tried that test I was surprised that I could barely distinguish bourbon from scotch and sometimes I couldn't distinguish tequila from scotch.  I bet you definitely can't tell the difference between single malts.  Save your money and give up drinking.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Schultz on November 19, 2010, 10:17:38 AM
Try a blind taste test between a single malt and a blended.  See if you can tell the difference.  When I tried that test I was surprised that I could barely distinguish bourbon from scotch and sometimes I couldn't distinguish tequila from scotch.  I bet you definitely can't tell the difference between single malts.  Save your money and give up drinking.

I've done it and "passed" with flying colors.  No offense, but if you can't distinguish tequila, even the high end stuff, from a single malt, you probably shouldn't be drinking the latter in the first place because you simply won't enjoy it.

I've always been a fan of Glen Morangie, preferably 15 year.  My sister brought me back a bottle of 20 year Powers from Ireland a few years ago, the stuff they don't export.  It was delicious and smooth and had a wonderful peach aftertone.  I saved that last half shot in that bottle for the longest time because I didn't want to see it go.  I finally finished it off when we moved into our new house as I thought that was an apt occasion.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Anastasios on November 19, 2010, 10:35:20 AM
When I drink Scotch, I just stick to Chivas Regal. And I must annoy Scottish people, because I drink it on the rocks.

Now when I drink Bourbon, I drink Wild Turkey Rare Breed. It is much better tasting than the regular Wild Turkey (which is only good for mixed drinks, IMO).  My cousin was about to try and mix my Rare Breed with Coke one time and I was like, "I don't think so" and got out the cheap stuff for him ;)

I like Basil Hayden bourbon as well, but it's too expensive for me to buy regularly. In fact, I have cut back a lot on my whiskey consumption in general to about once a week *, usually just drinking beer the rest of the time. Probably better for my liver anyway.

(* I realize to a non-drinker that will still seem like a lot, but I challenge you to only drink your Diet Cokes once a week mwahahaha).
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: AMM on November 19, 2010, 10:38:05 AM
Basil Hayden is good.  I got a bottle of Booker's for my birthday which I still haven't opened.  I like Knob Creek and Maker's Mark as well.  Dickel's is actually pretty good too.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Schultz on November 19, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
When I drink Scotch, I just stick to Chivas Regal. And I must annoy Scottish people, because I drink it on the rocks.

It's not that offensive.  What's more offensive is just downing a wee dram rather than sipping it!
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: AMM on November 19, 2010, 10:43:15 AM
Putting ice in Scotch (at least single malt), is like dipping good sushi in soy sauce.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: serb1389 on November 19, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
If you like Single Malt you HAVE to try Macallan or Balvenie (try of any variety but the 15 year balvenie, and the 12 year Macallan because they're excellent and fairly inexpensive)

Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Punch on November 19, 2010, 12:28:46 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel. 

that's quite the discerning palate you have there!  :D

That is because he must have gotten into his dad's supply of Lagavulin at some time.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Punch on November 19, 2010, 12:44:29 PM
Basil Hayden is good.  I got a bottle of Booker's for my birthday which I still haven't opened.  I like Knob Creek and Maker's Mark as well.  Dickel's is actually pretty good too.

Bookers the THE stuff.  Fuel grade Jim Beam.  I love it.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Heorhij on November 19, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
I *used* to be a fan. But, unfortunately, as some of you know... I can't handle it, hard liquor is too addictive for me. I haven't had a drop since Sept. 24.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Anastasios on November 19, 2010, 12:56:41 PM
I *used* to be a fan. But, unfortunately, as some of you know... I can't handle it, hard liquor is too addictive for me. I haven't had a drop since Sept. 24.

Good for you!
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: FormerReformer on November 19, 2010, 01:52:52 PM
I enjoy a glass of Glenlivet when I can afford it.  For whiskey I prefer Jameson, and for bourbon Maker's Mark.  I've never gotten around to trying a rye...
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: vamrat on November 19, 2010, 02:49:26 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel. 

that's quite the discerning palate you have there!  :D

That is because he must have gotten into his dad's supply of Lagavulin at some time.

Laphroaig.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: AMM on November 19, 2010, 03:16:58 PM
too phenolic.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Shanghaiski on November 19, 2010, 03:41:51 PM
Talisker, Oban, Lagavulin. In that order. Under 20 years. Alas, not cheap. If no single malt, I go for Johnnie Walker black or green. Failing that, Maker's Mark bourbon. Then there's brandy and cognac--E&J VSOP, Corvoissier, and B&B. I also like Laird's apple jack. That's the extent of my hard liquor drinking, which also is not very often.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 04:42:24 PM
Try a blind taste test between a single malt and a blended.  See if you can tell the difference.  When I tried that test I was surprised that I could barely distinguish bourbon from scotch and sometimes I couldn't distinguish tequila from scotch.  I bet you definitely can't tell the difference between single malts.  Save your money and give up drinking.

I did this test last night. I had a glass of Chivas and I found it to be severely lacking in quality and I found it to be slightly bitter in the mouth. Also the finish was not nearly as satisfying as the single malts i've tried.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 04:43:10 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel. 

that's quite the discerning palate you have there!  :D

That is because he must have gotten into his dad's supply of Lagavulin at some time.

Laphroaig.

That explains it!  :D
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 04:44:15 PM
nevermind.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: biro on November 19, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
Bushmill's.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 04:46:04 PM
Try a blind taste test between a single malt and a blended.  See if you can tell the difference.  When I tried that test I was surprised that I could barely distinguish bourbon from scotch and sometimes I couldn't distinguish tequila from scotch.  I bet you definitely can't tell the difference between single malts.  Save your money and give up drinking.

I've done it and "passed" with flying colors.  No offense, but if you can't distinguish tequila, even the high end stuff, from a single malt, you probably shouldn't be drinking the latter in the first place because you simply won't enjoy it.

I've always been a fan of Glen Morangie, preferably 15 year.  My sister brought me back a bottle of 20 year Powers from Ireland a few years ago, the stuff they don't export.  It was delicious and smooth and had a wonderful peach aftertone.  I saved that last half shot in that bottle for the longest time because I didn't want to see it go.  I finally finished it off when we moved into our new house as I thought that was an apt occasion.

Wow, I will have to try some Irish Whiskey sometime. that sounds amazing. Of course, i'm sure it won't be near as good as your Powers... ;)
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 19, 2010, 04:48:43 PM
Talisker, Oban, Lagavulin. In that order. Under 20 years. Alas, not cheap. If no single malt, I go for Johnnie Walker black or green. Failing that, Maker's Mark bourbon. Then there's brandy and cognac--E&J VSOP, Corvoissier, and B&B. I also like Laird's apple jack. That's the extent of my hard liquor drinking, which also is not very often.

This guy knows his whiskey!  :-*
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: AMM on November 19, 2010, 05:05:06 PM
Bushmill's.

I have to second that actually.  Black Bush is nice, but even the regular old run of the mill Bushmill's is nice.  Redbreast and Green Spot are also excellent Irish whiskey's.  Even Jameson's can hit the spot.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Iconodule on November 19, 2010, 06:39:02 PM
I *used* to be a fan. But, unfortunately, as some of you know... I can't handle it, hard liquor is too addictive for me. I haven't had a drop since Sept. 24.

Well done.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: FrChris on November 19, 2010, 11:39:52 PM
I've never enjoyed Scotch...there was something about it that has never appealed to me. I do prefer Irish whiskey or Canadian whiskey to Scotch.

Now, bourbon...that's a different story. Of all the bourbons I've enjoyed (and I never found one I didn't like!) Maker's Mark is my favorite and still is!

Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Agia Marina on November 19, 2010, 11:58:20 PM
I used to not drink anything. I don't like the taste of alcohol itself. Then I went to meet father's side of family in Portugal. "Do you drink?" is not part of the local idioms. They simply pour wine into huge glasses in every meal. When my father's cousin took me on a tour trip to Oporto guess which were the touristic points he showed me... all the wine producers in town, who, by the way, *are* organized and prepared to receive tour groups with tour guides and all and where you can taste just about every kind of wine ever produced by man.

After this experience I learned, I wouldn't say like, but to drink wine. I may enjoy one glass, but that's all.
Fabio, do you not drink cachaça?  I bet your father's family offered you bagaço.  That's slightly stronger than the wine they offered. ;D
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: SolEX01 on November 20, 2010, 03:01:00 AM
Johnnie Walker (red label) on the rocks ... too bad top shelf prices are $8 - $10 a drink in my part of the world.

Jim Beam (or Jack) with coke ... a treat to be enjoyed once in a while....
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on November 20, 2010, 03:39:15 AM
Bushmill's.

Bleh... Loyalist goat urine.  If it's the craythur you're after, 'tis Jameson that goes down hummin' a lullaby.

Bourbon?  Basil Haydon, Maker's Mark, Knob Creek and then for something a little cheaper, yet still aged 12 years and darn good, try Elijah Craig.     
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Agia Marina on November 20, 2010, 01:27:11 PM
The Macallan - warm and smooth as silk.  ;)
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Fr. David on November 20, 2010, 02:09:44 PM
Gotta agree w/Gabriel, tho not b/c of the, um, political? ramificaitons -- Bushmills just burns w/low flavor for me.  Like Jameson.  Gentleman Jack's the fav, tho.

Bourbon: Jimmy Beam.

Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: GiC on November 20, 2010, 04:10:17 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel.  Bourbon on the other hand...  Give me a glass of Eagle Rare, Maker's Mark, or even good old Evan Williams (more alcohol, same taste, and better price than Jack Daniels) and I'm a happy guy. 

It's just the cheap scotch that tastes that way...the problem is that for scotch to be good, you're going to have to pay upwards of $150 a fifth...and I don't know about you, but I'm not quite that rich, especially since with whiskey that smooth, it's easy to polish off a fifth in an evening.

But with that said, I have yet to find any scotch, no matter how old, single malt or blended, that is as good as a nice tall glass of Makers Mark.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 20, 2010, 04:45:23 PM
The Macallan - warm and smooth as silk.  ;)

I was going to get Macallan 12 but then I found out it was from the Speyside region, and I was told not to venture there for my first dram.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 20, 2010, 04:48:13 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel.  Bourbon on the other hand...  Give me a glass of Eagle Rare, Maker's Mark, or even good old Evan Williams (more alcohol, same taste, and better price than Jack Daniels) and I'm a happy guy. 

It's just the cheap scotch that tastes that way...the problem is that for scotch to be good, you're going to have to pay upwards of $150 a fifth...and I don't know about you, but I'm not quite that rich, especially since with whiskey that smooth, it's easy to polish off a fifth in an evening.

But with that said, I have yet to find any scotch, no matter how old, single malt or blended, that is as good as a nice tall glass of Makers Mark.

I just checked out the review for Makers Mark on forpeatsake.com and this one guy gave it a 50/100 saying, "It is alot cheaper to drink unleaded gasoline"

Oh well, to each his own I suppose!  :D

Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: GiC on November 20, 2010, 05:13:20 PM
If someone offered me a fine scotch I would drink it, but generally I think it tastes like anchovies steeped in diesel fuel.  Bourbon on the other hand...  Give me a glass of Eagle Rare, Maker's Mark, or even good old Evan Williams (more alcohol, same taste, and better price than Jack Daniels) and I'm a happy guy. 

It's just the cheap scotch that tastes that way...the problem is that for scotch to be good, you're going to have to pay upwards of $150 a fifth...and I don't know about you, but I'm not quite that rich, especially since with whiskey that smooth, it's easy to polish off a fifth in an evening.

But with that said, I have yet to find any scotch, no matter how old, single malt or blended, that is as good as a nice tall glass of Makers Mark.

I just checked out the review for Makers Mark on forpeatsake.com and this one guy gave it a 50/100 saying, "It is alot cheaper to drink unleaded gasoline"

Oh well, to each his own I suppose!  :D

He also said he needed water as a chaser right away...maybe when he reaches puberty he'll change his mind. ;)

But seriously, on a Scotch Drinking blog it doesn't surprise me that many don't understand the finer qualities of Bourbon...that aftertaste that particular reviewer complains about is one of the things that makes Makers Mark such a great whiskey. Of course, I can't appreciate the flavour of moss in my drink, so that's probably why I don't appreciate most scotch...unless it's of such a ridiculously high level of quality that any alcohol made to those standards would be good.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Agia Marina on November 20, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
The Macallan - warm and smooth as silk.  ;)

I was going to get Macallan 12 but then I found out it was from the Speyside region, and I was told not to venture there for my first dram.
I don't know much about Scottish regions, but if you're going to have Macallan, try the 18.
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 20, 2010, 06:01:16 PM
The Macallan - warm and smooth as silk.  ;)

I was going to get Macallan 12 but then I found out it was from the Speyside region, and I was told not to venture there for my first dram.
I don't know much about Scottish regions, but if you're going to have Macallan, try the 18.

whew, ok now you're talking out of my league now!  ::)
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Ortho_cat on November 20, 2010, 06:04:11 PM
Wait a minute, it just dawned upon me; Agia is a woman who enjoys scotch?? That is indeed a rare find!  ;D
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Agia Marina on November 20, 2010, 06:08:24 PM
Indeed, I do.   :)
Title: Re: Any scotch or whiskey fans?
Post by: Jakub on November 21, 2010, 03:46:28 PM
Crown Royal Black...or Reserve, Tangle Ridge

Canadians do make some good whiskies...