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Title: singles?
Post by: winterpascha on July 12, 2010, 03:39:15 PM
Hi all,
I'm 26. I was just curious if there are any other Orthodox singles, in their 20s, on here? I thought I would open the floor for anyone who wants to air their thoughts and/or woes on this "blessed time of singleness."  :)

~Seraphim
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Post by: rakovsky on July 12, 2010, 03:45:08 PM
Me single & soon 28
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Post by: Theophilos78 on July 12, 2010, 04:12:36 PM
Single at the age of 32.
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Post by: ialmisry on July 12, 2010, 04:16:08 PM
Divorced.  Being single isn't necessarily the worst fate.
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Post by: vamrat on July 12, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
Hi all,
I'm 26. I was just curious if there are any other Orthodox singles, in their 20s, on here? I thought I would open the floor for anyone who wants to air their thoughts and/or woes on this "blessed time of singleness."  :)

~Seraphim

How does it feel to have free time and a decent bank account?   ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Heorhij on July 12, 2010, 10:54:25 PM
My niece, Marijka, is single, and Orthodox. She lives in Ukraine, in the city of Luts'k, the capital of the Volyn region in northwestern Ukraine. She is a very, very beautiful girl, a student of the Regional Academy of Management, working for her bachelor's degree, 21 years old, tall, perfect fashion model figure, long blond hair, lapis lazuli eyes. If you are willing to settle in Ukraine, I will be happy to "hook" her with you. I am going to Ukraine tomorrow, will be back to the US on Aug. 1.
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Post by: Melodist on July 13, 2010, 12:16:38 AM
Single at 28.

I thought I would open the floor for anyone who wants to air their thoughts and/or woes on this "blessed time of singleness."  :)

~Seraphim

Could care less about sharing my thoughts and woes on being single, but then again there is Genesis 2:18.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: jnorm888 on July 13, 2010, 12:47:21 AM
Been single for 2 years. I'm 33
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Post by: Shlomlokh on July 13, 2010, 12:22:53 PM
21 and single. Don't really mind it at all, although one of my room mates from college is getting married on Saturday. :P
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Post by: scamandrius on July 13, 2010, 10:53:11 PM
Single at 33.  Never married.  May possibly marry the girl I'm with now.  If not, then I think I will head to the monastery for an extended period of discernment.
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Post by: Asteriktos on July 14, 2010, 03:09:04 AM
I missed the cut off ... I'm 31. Thanks for giving me another reason to feel old!  :angel: I'm single, sort of a widower, somewhat lonely, but not in any rush to jump back into a relationship at this point.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: jnorm888 on July 14, 2010, 04:55:45 AM
I missed the cut off ... I'm 31. Thanks for giving me another reason to feel old!  :angel: I'm single, sort of a widower, somewhat lonely, but not in any rush to jump back into a relationship at this point.

I thought you were married with children?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 14, 2010, 05:17:53 AM
I missed the cut off ... I'm 31. Thanks for giving me another reason to feel old!  :angel: I'm single, sort of a widower, somewhat lonely, but not in any rush to jump back into a relationship at this point.

I thought you were married with children?

My wife and I seperated last July, then she died unexpectedly this past January.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: scamandrius on July 14, 2010, 07:57:56 PM
^My condolences, Asteriktos.  May your wife's memory be eternal!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: jnorm888 on July 14, 2010, 08:16:46 PM
I missed the cut off ... I'm 31. Thanks for giving me another reason to feel old!  :angel: I'm single, sort of a widower, somewhat lonely, but not in any rush to jump back into a relationship at this point.

I thought you were married with children?

My wife and I seperated last July, then she died unexpectedly this past January.


I am sorry to hear that. Please forgive me for asking about it. May her Memory be Eternal!









ICXC NIKA
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on July 15, 2010, 09:54:30 AM
May her memory be eternal!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: thetraditionalfrog on July 15, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
I'm 35 and single... always have been. There have been periods of time in the past it has bothered me. I'd long for a loving wife to talk to and confide in, and children running up to me and yelling "Daddy, Daddy, look what I did in school today!" That's in the past though, I don't think so much about it now. I figure if I'm meant to be married, God will direct. I did the looking thing before, and let's just say I don't have the greatest of luck when it comes to women. Being Orthodox of course makes the possibilities a bit more limited, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my faith for love.
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Post by: Benjamin the Red on July 15, 2011, 10:05:28 PM
22 and single for just over a year now. Dated a girl on-and-off for seven years. I'm glad to say I have friends to spend time with, and work/hobbies to busy myself, but...still lonely sometimes. I've always wanted to be a good husband/father. I'd say it's in the top three, easy, of life goals to accomplish. Long-distance relationship is how my last relationship went, but, the post about the Ukrainian niece, you know the year-old post up there, did catch my eye for a second, lol. :P
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Post by: John of the North on July 15, 2011, 10:49:59 PM
23 and single.
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Post by: Gisasargavak on July 15, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
23 and single...it's not always that easy, especially when everyone else your age is going out to "clubs" and having different partners every week and then criticise you for not doing the same. Not an easy road at all, and it can be lonesome not only in the area of romance, but as far as friends go as well because many just simply do not understand why I am the way I am, or it is possible that because I take no interest in the mainstream western "culture" and those self-exile myself from my peers...

I'm sure many here have gone or are going through similar situations.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Kasatkin fan on July 15, 2011, 11:01:00 PM
27 and single.
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Post by: LBK on July 15, 2011, 11:06:11 PM
Twenty-somethings concerned about their singlehood? Better to remain so than marry the wrong person because of some sort of cultural imperative. I've had to deal with a lad who was in his thirties who was so desperate to marry, that he tied the knot with a "Russian bride". I'm still getting over the damage it did to me. And, for the record, I'm happily married - we were in our mid-to-late thirties at the time, first marriage for both of us.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 15, 2011, 11:08:43 PM
I don't have a girlfriend, but there are a few women who would be upset, if they heard me say that. //;=|

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Post by: thetraditionalfrog on July 15, 2011, 11:12:53 PM
Gisasargavak, I feel much the same way you do. Although I don't envy others my age that go out clubbing or bar hopping... never had any desire for that. Certainly never had any desire for "a new girl" every week either.  I too am very different, or rather unique as I harken back to an older order so to say. I have little interest in most of modern mainstream western culture. This makes it difficult to have friends (no real common ground or interests to put it simply) let alone a relationship. I relate better to people of my grandparents era (WWII generation) than my own. I don't care for pop music, most modern styles of dress, and very little television programming. In fact, I'm tossing my TV out very soon as I rarely use it except for a bit of CNN now and then. Just not worth it. I have tried to do the pop culture thing several times in the past and it was always short lived. I can't fool myself for very long, it's just not me. Yes, it is a hard and lonely way to go at times, but I always have to company of Our Lord and the Saints!  I'm not giving up on finding a wife, but I'm not looking in particular either. I'll leave it up to God.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: LBK on July 15, 2011, 11:14:34 PM
Quote
I'm not giving up on finding a wife, but I'm not looking in particular either. I'll leave it up to God.


Yup. If it's gonna happen, it'll happen.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: augustin717 on July 15, 2011, 11:17:58 PM
I don't have a girlfriend, but there are a few women who would be upset, if they heard me say that. //;=|


Man we are too much alike ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Wyatt on July 16, 2011, 02:05:33 AM
So...asl everyone? :P

I'm 23 and single.
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Post by: vamrat on July 16, 2011, 02:33:28 AM
So...asl everyone? :P

I'm 23 and single.

ASL?  Advanced Squad Leader?  Could be why you're single!   ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: thetraditionalfrog on July 16, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Advanced Squad Leader... LoL

I'm 35, male, Indianapolis, Indiana
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Post by: biro on July 16, 2011, 10:56:05 AM
Single, female. 38.  :)
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Post by: John Ward on July 16, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
28 and recently divorced. The whole marriage was pretty messed up... especially since she refused to get married in the Church.
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Post by: Kasatkin fan on July 16, 2011, 04:15:05 PM
So...asl everyone? :P

I'm 23 and single.

This thread the latest dating service.  :D

I've stated my age... I'm a male in Alberta.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: CBGardner on July 16, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
23, single, and happy with it. Knowing the standard I've set I've basically resigned myself to single-hood. I'm not sure where or how I'll ever find a girl who sees the world as I do. Is there even a 23 year old girl who dresses modestly, doesn't fret about her appearance, and likes to banter about bad Netflix movies and then go to bed without any funny business? Plus I feel like I always loose myself in relationships. Hobbies and God keep me as busy as I need to be. And I have one really good friend whom I trust. I've never thought I'd be the dude who eats out by himself and goes to a ball game alone but its not so bad. God fills holes you'd never expect He could.
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Post by: Shiny on July 16, 2011, 06:23:30 PM
God fills holes you'd never expect He could.

That's how I felt when I was single for a time being. It's funny now since I've come to Christ because if my relationship now was to end I wouldn't be so heartbroken because I have Christ who dwells in me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on July 16, 2011, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: Kasatkin fan
This thread the latest dating service.  :D

That made me smile.  :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: celticfan1888 on July 16, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
Just for you single people.   8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy8shDCn__8
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: CBGardner on July 16, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
Just for you single people.   8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy8shDCn__8

Consider my hands up.

 :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 16, 2011, 07:41:30 PM
23, single, and happy with it. Knowing the standard I've set I've basically resigned myself to single-hood. I'm not sure where or how I'll ever find a girl who sees the world as I do. Is there even a 23 year old girl who dresses modestly, doesn't fret about her appearance, and likes to banter about bad Netflix movies and then go to bed without any funny business? Plus I feel like I always loose myself in relationships. Hobbies and God keep me as busy as I need to be. And I have one really good friend whom I trust. I've never thought I'd be the dude who eats out by himself and goes to a ball game alone but its not so bad. God fills holes you'd never expect He could.
I am glad that you are happy, but those gals do exist (sounds a bit like me, honestly ;) and I have met girls in college that are similar). We asked the same about guys and hey, guess what? You are out there. Now, to have both people hanging out in the same place at the same time...

May God's will be done for you all.  :)

(An OC.net marriage would be really cool! ;) I'd attend.)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Poppy on July 16, 2011, 07:58:17 PM
Blimey can't some of you ppl hook up?? I mean, your all about the same age and your obviously all the same religion sort of. Some of you MUST live near enough to each other or could move if you got on well enough.

If your on your own and you want to be with someone then why not??
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 16, 2011, 09:16:45 PM
I'm still single, so if any of you ladies are looking for an aging, balding, spiritually-confused, extremely poor student, I'm available!  :P
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Post by: thefizzle656 on July 16, 2011, 09:18:58 PM
22 and single for just over a year now. Dated a girl on-and-off for seven years. I'm glad to say I have friends to spend time with, and work/hobbies to busy myself, but...still lonely sometimes. I've always wanted to be a good husband/father. I'd say it's in the top three, easy, of life goals to accomplish. Long-distance relationship is how my last relationship went, but, the post about the Ukrainian niece, you know the year-old post up there, did catch my eye for a second, lol. :P

Haha, same.  I'm 23 and single and have never had a girlfriend, not even before I became Orthodox.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on July 16, 2011, 10:39:25 PM
Just for you single people.   8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy8shDCn__8

Consider my hands up.

 :)

Everytime I hear that song, I remember this now:
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l13ugdnGjP1qaplqno1_500.png)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Andrew Crook on July 16, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
22 and single for just over a year now. Dated a girl on-and-off for seven years. I'm glad to say I have friends to spend time with, and work/hobbies to busy myself, but...still lonely sometimes. I've always wanted to be a good husband/father. I'd say it's in the top three, easy, of life goals to accomplish. Long-distance relationship is how my last relationship went, but, the post about the Ukrainian niece, you know the year-old post up there, did catch my eye for a second, lol. :P

Haha, same.  I'm 23 and single and have never had a girlfriend, not even before I became Orthodox.

Wow and I thought I was the only one!  I'm 25, and never really did the whole "dating" scene.. -- struggled with self esteem issues a lot, but even now that I'm over that, I'm still just not interested.  I sort of feel like because everybody else around me is dating, getting married, or having kids -- I must be the oddball for not doing the same.  I don't really care to get to know most women beyond anything other than just being a friend.. -- it would be nice to have a female companion of sorts, but at the same time.. I wonder if something like that is really for me.  Or, maybe I should just become a priest.. and then maybe a monk..
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: John Ward on July 16, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
I will say I've learned my lesson. If I ever date/marry in the future, it'll be only an Orthodox girl. I won't even consider anything else. I was talking with my mom and apparently my dad is hoping I'll meet someone at the Church in Korea. My dad is Lebanese and he's not to keen of what he's seen in America or Lebanon. Me? I'm still trying to figure out what God wants for my life, but if it's to be married, I want someone who loves being in Church and wants to raise a family centered around God and the Church. I really don't want anything less than finding someone who is trying to get close to God.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: John of the North on July 17, 2011, 12:41:08 AM
Everytime I hear that song, I remember this now:
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l13ugdnGjP1qaplqno1_500.png)

LOL!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 17, 2011, 02:21:50 AM
Sorry ladies, I am too charming and good-looking to go through the effort of some online courtship.

However, if you:

Are Attractive (not "internet attractive").
Are Independently Wealthy.
Have a sense of humor so blue it is black.
And enjoy being around a curmudgeon in public who everyone thinks is an  . . ., but at home you know I cater to those greatest in need (you might a have the occasional schizophrenic, or prostitute, or drug addict  as a house guest) and have the affection and innocence of a child.

I don't like walks on the beach. I don't get amped about the meeting of water and sand.

I'll weep during chick flick in public.
I can cripple pretty much anyone who could cause you harm.

And I probably have more jackets and shoes than you do.

If this is the love connection you have been looking for:

Shoot me an email with a head shot and summary of your financials.

I hope my inbox will able to handle all the traffic.
 
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Post by: celticfan1888 on July 17, 2011, 04:06:43 AM
Quote
Everytime I hear that song, I remember this now:
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l13ugdnGjP1qaplqno1_500.png)

LOL FOREVER and Ever
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: akimori makoto on July 17, 2011, 04:36:02 AM
The only romantic action I have had recently was when the fifteen year old work experience girl developed a crush on me and posted about it on facebook.

Kill me now.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Poppy on July 17, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
Ok so the women can see what your about..... a random Q for you

Blokes...
Imagine you have a gf and your out on a date with her, some other girl walks by with some 'obvios attractive features' (haha... i don't want to get in trouble) and your gf catches you looking. What do you say to your gf because she is well vexed at you and running her mouth.

Pick the one closest to what youd say

(a) "sorry"

(b) "sorry, but...." 

(c) "I was looking just to make sure i got the best deal and i did"

(d) "Look gf, we live in a world full of "attractive features" and i am a hetro male and unless i am mistaken i am not dead, so as much as i try not to look, there will be times when i might.... so get over yourself and let me deal with it my way and just trust me and stop judging me and get on with dealing with your own self....ie: insecurity!!!"

(e) Lie - "I wasn't looking, you just looked up at the moment my eyes was looking in that general direction."


Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 17, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
Ok so the women can see what your about..... a random Q for you

Blokes...
Imagine you have a gf and your out on a date with her, some other girl walks by with some 'obvios attractive features' (haha... i don't want to get in trouble) and your gf catches you looking. What do you say to your gf because she is well vexed at you and running her mouth.

What if my girlfriend was not only not mad at me, but actually was looking at the girl before I was, enjoyed looking at her more, and then was looking long after I had looked away? Should I be mad? :angel:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 17, 2011, 01:01:50 PM

And I probably have more jackets and shoes than you do.
I think you need to reconsider this line because most women do NOT want to share their closets.  ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 17, 2011, 01:03:26 PM
The only romantic action I have had recently was when the fifteen year old work experience girl developed a crush on me and posted about it on facebook.

Kill me now.
At one point, a kindergartner (I used to volunteer at an after-school program), told me that he was madly in love with me, brought flowers, and proposed to me. I was single, very single at the time. I was like, "Can you please go out there and tell men about how awesome I am? Thanks."
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: thefizzle656 on July 17, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
22 and single for just over a year now. Dated a girl on-and-off for seven years. I'm glad to say I have friends to spend time with, and work/hobbies to busy myself, but...still lonely sometimes. I've always wanted to be a good husband/father. I'd say it's in the top three, easy, of life goals to accomplish. Long-distance relationship is how my last relationship went, but, the post about the Ukrainian niece, you know the year-old post up there, did catch my eye for a second, lol. :P

Haha, same.  I'm 23 and single and have never had a girlfriend, not even before I became Orthodox.

Wow and I thought I was the only one!  I'm 25, and never really did the whole "dating" scene.. -- struggled with self esteem issues a lot, but even now that I'm over that, I'm still just not interested.  I sort of feel like because everybody else around me is dating, getting married, or having kids -- I must be the oddball for not doing the same.  I don't really care to get to know most women beyond anything other than just being a friend.. -- it would be nice to have a female companion of sorts, but at the same time.. I wonder if something like that is really for me.  Or, maybe I should just become a priest.. and then maybe a monk..

I myself don't want to remain single.  I would really like to meet a girl and get married and the whole thing but a) I'm not and have never been good with girls and b) would only be interested in somebody who is Orthodox, which seems to pretty tough to find these days.  But, I figure that if God intends for me to get married then the girl is out there, I just have to pray and wait for Him to get us together.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 17, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
OK, it sounds like there are a lot of slouches around here.

No fear. After I return from carousing with about 20 women I have never met (watching the Women's World Cup Final with a University Women's soccer team), it looks like I am going to have to help my fellow man with a tips and advice thread about meeting women and more importantly not walking around in a constant state of frustration and lack of confidence.

EDIT: If you are chronically alone, please don't use the God's plan card.



Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 17, 2011, 02:16:52 PM

And I probably have more jackets and shoes than you do.
I think you need to reconsider this line because most women do NOT want to share their closets.  ;D

I put out so much ammo to be insulted with . . .  You could have gone with the obvious "closet" double entendre to suggest a slight confusion about my sexuality.



Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 17, 2011, 02:21:44 PM
OK, it sounds like there are a lot of slouches around here.

No fear. After I return from carousing with about 20 women I have never met (watching the Women's World Cup Final with a University Women's soccer team), it looks like I am going to have to help my fellow man with a tips and advice thread about meeting women and more importantly not walking around in a constant state of frustration and lack of confidence.

What do you mean? I have profiles on several online dating sites! What more can be done?  :P
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 17, 2011, 02:22:01 PM

And I probably have more jackets and shoes than you do.
I think you need to reconsider this line because most women do NOT want to share their closets.  ;D

I put out so much ammo to be insulted with . . .  You could have gone with the obvious "closet" double entendre to suggest a slight confusion about my sexuality.




But that would have been sooooo expected.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Tikhon29605 on July 17, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
Some of us like being single.  I like it a lot.  I used to think about becoming a monk, but the monasteries I have contacted have told me that really aren't eager to accept candidates over 40. I seem to baffle some people at work, who think everyone must be married to be normal and happy. I'd rather be single and be content with it than be stuck in a bad marriage or relationship.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Wyatt on July 17, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
22 and single for just over a year now. Dated a girl on-and-off for seven years. I'm glad to say I have friends to spend time with, and work/hobbies to busy myself, but...still lonely sometimes. I've always wanted to be a good husband/father. I'd say it's in the top three, easy, of life goals to accomplish. Long-distance relationship is how my last relationship went, but, the post about the Ukrainian niece, you know the year-old post up there, did catch my eye for a second, lol. :P

Haha, same.  I'm 23 and single and have never had a girlfriend, not even before I became Orthodox.

Wow and I thought I was the only one!  I'm 25, and never really did the whole "dating" scene.. -- struggled with self esteem issues a lot, but even now that I'm over that, I'm still just not interested.  I sort of feel like because everybody else around me is dating, getting married, or having kids -- I must be the oddball for not doing the same.  I don't really care to get to know most women beyond anything other than just being a friend.. -- it would be nice to have a female companion of sorts, but at the same time.. I wonder if something like that is really for me.  Or, maybe I should just become a priest.. and then maybe a monk..
I'm 23 and have never dated either. In high school I had several friends who were female, but I never had a girlfriend. Since graduating high school, I have sort of become more introverted. I notice that I am not really meeting new people that much, but mostly just hanging around with the same old friends that I made in high school (which is fine, but it doesn't help the girlfriend situation). I'm somewhat torn on how I feel about being single. Sometimes I think it would be nice to have a girlfriend and eventually a wife, but other times I observe people who are married (such as some friends of mine who are a married couple) and see the way they gripe and bicker at each other constantly and it makes me feel like maybe I'm not missing much.

Plus I have a disability and that complicates things because I realize that, if I did date, I would be bringing a lot of baggage to a relationship as a result of that. Obviously, having me as a boyfriend or husband would be significantly different than having an able-bodied guy. I think that is a huge reason why it is hard for me to try. That and the fact that it would be hard for me to gauge whether a girl is dating me because she really likes me or if it's just because she pities me and feels stuck and unable to say no.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on July 17, 2011, 02:44:48 PM
Ok so the women can see what your about..... a random Q for you

Blokes...
Imagine you have a gf and your out on a date with her, some other girl walks by with some 'obvios attractive features' (haha... i don't want to get in trouble) and your gf catches you looking. What do you say to your gf because she is well vexed at you and running her mouth.

Pick the one closest to what youd say

(a) "sorry"

(b) "sorry, but...." 

(c) "I was looking just to make sure i got the best deal and i did"

(d) "Look gf, we live in a world full of "attractive features" and i am a hetro male and unless i am mistaken i am not dead, so as much as i try not to look, there will be times when i might.... so get over yourself and let me deal with it my way and just trust me and stop judging me and get on with dealing with your own self....ie: insecurity!!!"

(e) Lie - "I wasn't looking, you just looked up at the moment my eyes was looking in that general direction."


D then E followed by an immediate subject change.  
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 17, 2011, 02:46:59 PM
My husband says, "Your hair's pretty."  ::)

I always find myself now scoping out the women and trying to guess which one was going to catch his eye (hello, Insecurity 101). He now thinks that I'm looking at them for different reasons.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: CRCulver on July 17, 2011, 02:59:49 PM
When I moved to an Orthodox country, I thought all my dating problems would be solved. Unfortunately, though there is an abundance of young single female devout Orthodox, in my experience they go rather too far to the opposite extreme. You meet a girl and then are aghast to find that she believes the bureaucrat hassle du jour is the Mark of the Beast, that our bishop can't be trusted and some rebellious priest from an obscure parish overrules him, and that by having friends from non-Orthodox ethnicities (the Hungarian and German minorities here are typically Catholic or Protestant) I am betraying Orthodoxy.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: CBGardner on July 17, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Ok so the women can see what your about..... a random Q for you

Blokes...
Imagine you have a gf and your out on a date with her, some other girl walks by with some 'obvios attractive features' (haha... i don't want to get in trouble) and your gf catches you looking. What do you say to your gf because she is well vexed at you and running her mouth.

Pick the one closest to what youd say

(a) "sorry"

(b) "sorry, but...." 

(c) "I was looking just to make sure i got the best deal and i did"

(d) "Look gf, we live in a world full of "attractive features" and i am a hetro male and unless i am mistaken i am not dead, so as much as i try not to look, there will be times when i might.... so get over yourself and let me deal with it my way and just trust me and stop judging me and get on with dealing with your own self....ie: insecurity!!!"

(e) Lie - "I wasn't looking, you just looked up at the moment my eyes was looking in that general direction."




Ok when are the ladies going to understand that E is a real occurrence!? We're not lying. When something in your field of vision moves you focus on it. Sometimes that's another lady, sometimes it isn't anything. Same situation when you're texting/get a text. We don't care who it is or what you're saying, it just catches the eye. Whew, glad I got that off my chest; its only been 2 years in the making.

I'd be confident too if I had the wit and verbosity of Mr.orthonorm. I have no trouble believing he's a social butterfly outside of this site. Somethings just can't be learned  :-\
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Poppy on July 17, 2011, 03:36:58 PM
Ok so the women can see what your about..... a random Q for you

Blokes...
Imagine you have a gf and your out on a date with her, some other girl walks by with some 'obvios attractive features' (haha... i don't want to get in trouble) and your gf catches you looking. What do you say to your gf because she is well vexed at you and running her mouth.

What if my girlfriend was not only not mad at me, but actually was looking at the girl before I was, enjoyed looking at her more, and then was looking long after I had looked away? Should I be mad? :angel:

haha.... alot of blokes would be thinking wa hay!! But you have to stay inside of your religion  :o :-X
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Poppy on July 17, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
My husband says, "Your hair's pretty."  ::)

I always find myself now scoping out the women and trying to guess which one was going to catch his eye (hello, Insecurity 101). He now thinks that I'm looking at them for different reasons.

That don't seem like insecurity to me, it seems like realistic and openess. Making something less of a thing by being open about it or having a laugh about it takes the pressure off don't you think it does??
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: John Ward on July 17, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
I used to think about becoming a monk, but the monasteries I have contacted have told me that really aren't eager to accept candidates over 40.

That's something that worries me. Right now, I'm praying that God will help me discern His will. Going into a monastery is a real possibility but I'll be in my mid-30s before that's a real option. I'm worried about how well that'll go. Not to mention unlearning the whole "I can do whatever I want because I'm a single guy out in the world" mentality. But, I guess if it's God's will, a door will be open and I'll just have to be smart enough to take it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IsmiLiora on July 17, 2011, 04:47:20 PM
My husband says, "Your hair's pretty."  ::)

I always find myself now scoping out the women and trying to guess which one was going to catch his eye (hello, Insecurity 101). He now thinks that I'm looking at them for different reasons.

That don't seem like insecurity to me, it seems like realistic and openess. Making something less of a thing by being open about it or having a laugh about it takes the pressure off don't you think it does??
Yeah, we actually do joke about it now. (We've had some issues on the past in both sides, but have dealt with them accordingly...not easy, BTW, not easy at all.) I am a pretty insecure person, though, especially when it comes to my looks. As a former anorexic who was diagnosed with a chronic illness and gained weight after...not secure at all.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Poppy on July 17, 2011, 05:11:17 PM
My husband says, "Your hair's pretty."  ::)

I always find myself now scoping out the women and trying to guess which one was going to catch his eye (hello, Insecurity 101). He now thinks that I'm looking at them for different reasons.

That don't seem like insecurity to me, it seems like realistic and openess. Making something less of a thing by being open about it or having a laugh about it takes the pressure off don't you think it does??
Yeah, we actually do joke about it now. (We've had some issues on the past in both sides, but have dealt with them accordingly...not easy, BTW, not easy at all.) I am a pretty insecure person, though, especially when it comes to my looks. As a former anorexic who was diagnosed with a chronic illness and gained weight after...not secure at all.
blimey thats rough. you have obviously worked thru a tonne of stuff then and have got strength and determination as a person which isn't easy, i know because i had to do similer graft as well. But i hope you are proud (in a good way) of who you are because i am of me and i think people should be when they have been through bumps and there spirit inside them isn't broken. I always tell myself that noone is going to tell me how i feel about myself...except ME haha....and so nothing can ever be taken from me then.
You sound like a amazing woman IsmiLiora
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: primuspilus on July 18, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
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Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Tikhon.of.Colorado on July 18, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
The only romantic action I have had recently was when the fifteen year old work experience girl developed a crush on me and posted about it on facebook.

Kill me now.
At one point, a kindergartner (I used to volunteer at an after-school program), told me that he was madly in love with me, brought flowers, and proposed to me. I was single, very single at the time. I was like, "Can you please go out there and tell men about how awesome I am? Thanks."

lol!

Once, after mission vespers, my priest's family kindly took me out to dinner.  His 4 year old daughter asked me to be her boyfriend, and I didn't have the heart to say no  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: gonefishing on May 28, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
You have to be in your 20s?  Ums-kay.  Where's the old people singles thread then?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: casisthename on June 01, 2012, 04:32:49 PM
single , soon to be 21. Yes, I had the infamous conversion break up about a year and a half ago. Yes, young single Orthodox women exist. I find it funny how many Orthodox guys seem to think we're an endangered species...I sure haven't had any make any attempts though that could be because most of the guys at my church are already out of college.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on June 01, 2012, 05:02:51 PM
single , soon to be 21. Yes, I had the infamous conversion break up about a year and a half ago. Yes, young single Orthodox women exist. I find it funny how many Orthodox guys seem to think we're an endangered species...I sure haven't had any make any attempts though that could be because most of the guys at my church are already out of college.

That's why they seem like they are an endangered species.  At my church one hasn't graduated high school and the other graduated college about when I graduated high school...not that I let that stop me from making the attempt on the older of the two!   ;)  The rest are married. 

Oh well, there are plenty of heretics out there, and if you want to meet someone who actually has a personality there are plenty of agnostics!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on June 01, 2012, 05:16:25 PM
Single hyperdox male, 16, from California. Extremely bigoted in his views that Protestantism is the source of all evil in the world. Currently unemployed living with parents in apartment, struggles with violent outbursts of Donald Duck-like rage from time to time. I'd say I'm a catch.

...that by having friends from non-Orthodox ethnicities...Protestant...I am betraying Orthodoxy.

They sound perfect for me! Finally someone who will appreciate my hyperdoxy!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: KBN1 on June 01, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
32 and single.  Entirely my doing.  I've made peace with it mostly.  My brother-in-law's grandmother finds me to be "very handsome" so I have that going for me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: bytania on June 01, 2012, 07:43:52 PM
Wow...I am actually surprised by the number of 23 year olders hehehe! I too am single, 28 year old female, and I TOO have learnt my lesson to never ever date a non-orthodox :). This year is the first time I've been single in the past 8 years, but I must say, as much as I HATE it, I definitely am learning a lot about myself and what I want.

Bytania
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on June 01, 2012, 07:53:56 PM
Single hyperdox male, 16, from California. Extremely bigoted in his views that Protestantism is the source of all evil in the world. Currently unemployed living with parents in apartment, struggles with violent outbursts of Donald Duck-like rage from time to time. I'd say I'm a catch.
Serious or not but I seriously LOL'd
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on July 25, 2012, 03:21:43 AM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 25, 2012, 07:07:03 AM
Come back poppy! Please! :(
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Melodist on July 25, 2012, 07:52:28 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Golgotha on July 25, 2012, 09:01:22 PM
American male order bridegroom here! I'm willing to learn Russian.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: KBN1 on July 25, 2012, 10:21:50 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on July 28, 2012, 07:15:53 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
I'm a west coast girl.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on July 28, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
I'm a worst coast girl.
Oh
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on July 28, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
I'm a best coast girl.
Ooh!
Yep.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: dzheremi on July 28, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
Haha. Nice edit, Anastasia.

I suppose I should post in this thread while I still can, since I'll be 30 in about a month.

Me: 29, very new to Orthodoxy (baptized in May), living in the desert paradise of Albuquerque NM for the next year or so while I write up a dissertation on Coptic language reform and related issues. Already learned and mostly forgot Russian. Willing to remember it again, though chances are it's less popular with Armenian women than it used to be, and I won't go EO for love. :) Also speak Spanish, and can probably manage enough Arabic on a good day to get into a hilarious misunderstanding-based fight with the wait staff at the local Middle Eastern restaurant. I like to cook and enjoy books on Church history and hagiographies, documentaries and pretentious foreign films.

You: Must love God and pugs. Everything else is negotiable.

This thread is a glorified singles classified section, isn't it? :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 28, 2012, 09:12:51 PM
I'm still single, so if any of you ladies are looking for an aging, balding, spiritually-confused, extremely poor student, I'm available!  :P

I'm no longer available, sorry to break it to you girls!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on July 28, 2012, 09:17:15 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
I'm a best coast girl.
Ooh!
Yep.
We have one thing in common already, our liking of Mou.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on July 28, 2012, 09:40:06 PM
Haha. Nice edit, Anastasia.
Thanks.

I suppose I should post in this thread while I still can, since I'll be 30 in about a month.

Me: 29, very new to Orthodoxy (baptized in May), living in the desert paradise of Albuquerque NM for the next year or so while I write up a dissertation on Coptic language reform and related issues. Already learned and mostly forgot Russian. Willing to remember it again, though chances are it's less popular with Armenian women* than it used to be, and I won't go EO for love. :) Also speak Spanish, and can probably manage enough Arabic on a good day to get into a hilarious misunderstanding-based fight with the wait staff at the local Middle Eastern restaurant. I like to cook and enjoy books on Church history and hagiographies, documentaries and pretentious foreign films.

You: Must love God and pugs. Everything else is negotiable.
I had to laugh when I read pretentious foreign films.

This thread is a glorified singles classified section, isn't it? :laugh:
Oh please, honey, I would have sold myself a lot more if I was answering for a classified section here. ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on July 28, 2012, 09:43:02 PM
Single. Late 20s. Getting to a point where I really want a serious relationship that can result in marriage in the next few years.

You close to Cininnati?

I think she is closer to Ceaveland.
I'm a best coast girl.
Ooh!
Yep.
We have one thing in common already, our liking of Mou.
Yeah, but that alone does not make one a special one. ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on July 29, 2012, 02:51:28 AM
I'm no longer available, sorry to break it to you girls!
"Giving yourself to the Gospel" doesn't count, Asteriktos.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on July 29, 2012, 12:56:47 PM
I'm no longer available, sorry to break it to you girls!
"Giving yourself to the Gospel" doesn't count, Asteriktos.

Hey! I like that... nice phrase... I'm totally gonna use that  ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Melodist on July 29, 2012, 05:55:48 PM
I'm a west coast girl.

 :'(
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: kevlev on July 29, 2012, 08:33:07 PM
I'm a west coast girl.

 :'(

DHL ships coast to coast and around the world...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Hiwot on July 29, 2012, 08:45:16 PM
I'm a west coast girl.

 :'(

DHL ships coast to coast and around the world...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 29, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
I'm a west coast girl.

 :'(

DHL ships coast to coast and around the world...

And the Germans have the most experience of the handling of human cargo.

The Eastern Europeans have never been so efficient.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on July 29, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
I'm no longer available, sorry to break it to you girls!
"Giving yourself to the Gospel" doesn't count, Asteriktos.

Hey! I like that... nice phrase... I'm totally gonna use that  ;D

No dude.

To the Christian woman . . .

And I thought Jesus preached the Good News till I met you.

It's the Colt 45 of the evo circuit.

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Melodist on July 30, 2012, 09:21:48 PM
I'm a west coast girl.
:'(
DHL ships coast to coast and around the world...

I've had enough experience with organizations who are more than happy to ship to the west coast and possibly around the world.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 10, 2013, 08:04:46 AM
I'm still single, so if any of you ladies are looking for an aging, balding, spiritually-confused, extremely poor student, I'm available!  :P

I'm no longer available, sorry to break it to you girls!

This is no longer true, but you girls should be forewarned: I am saving myself for the right person! If you think you are that person please PM me with a proposal as to how we should proceed. Thank you for your time!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Theophilos78 on February 10, 2013, 05:10:59 PM
Turning 35 in a couple of months, but still single and proud!  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 10, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
This is no longer true, but you girls should be forewarned: I am saving myself for the right person! If you think you are that person please PM me with a proposal as to how we should proceed. Thank you for your time!

Pour vous:

(http://www.limogesjewelry.com/products/L1186519765L.gif)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 10, 2013, 07:00:59 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the Evangelical purity-ring wearing woman is perhaps the most insane, frightening woman you could end up with (next to Rosie O'Donnell). They are the kind who will ask about marriage on the first date, expect to be treated like royalty by you, and want to introduce you to their equally insane family and talk about having six kids someday.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: augustin717 on February 10, 2013, 07:28:32 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the Evangelical purity-ring wearing woman is perhaps the most insane, frightening woman you could end up with (next to Rosie O'Donnell). They are the kind who will ask about marriage on the first date, expect to be treated like royalty by you, and want to introduce you to their equally insane family and talk about having six kids someday.
3 girls of that sort -Korean I think- are sitting and giggling  at this moment behind me in the coffee-shop;  they just got out of church apparently. they aren't frightening, although, not that far from insane probably; and as I pass by the Moody church every day on my way to work, yesterday I noticed a sign there that read "the high price of sexual purity". some talk series .
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 10, 2013, 07:54:46 PM
Pour vous:

(http://www.limogesjewelry.com/products/L1186519765L.gif)

The Orthodox version (I've seen a guy wear it):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Ring_Sinaya.jpg/220px-Ring_Sinaya.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 10, 2013, 07:58:20 PM
This is no longer true, but you girls should be forewarned: I am saving myself for the right person! If you think you are that person please PM me with a proposal as to how we should proceed. Thank you for your time!

Pour vous:

I'm glad to see that my post is evoking the right images in yuns guys minds! :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Karaleighmum on February 10, 2013, 08:42:50 PM
20, almost 21, single mama. Tell you what, I now understand why it is a sin to do that sorta thing out of wedlock. It's hard raising a baby without a husband! :) But God is really guiding us, Glory Be.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 10, 2013, 09:56:17 PM

The Orthodox version (I've seen a guy wear it):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Ring_Sinaya.jpg/220px-Ring_Sinaya.jpg)

NO! It even has a heart!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: That person on February 10, 2013, 10:25:46 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the Evangelical purity-ring wearing woman is perhaps the most insane, frightening woman you could end up with (next to Rosie O'Donnell). They are the kind who will ask about marriage on the first date, expect to be treated like royalty by you, and want to introduce you to their equally insane family and talk about having six kids someday.
A girl I know used to wear one, but she was allergic to the nickel. That's pretty much the opposite of an STD. She turned out not to be like that though. Wind up wasting the better part of high school after her. And I for one am cool with having lots of kids. Maybe that's the sort of girl I ought to look into. Still single at 18 currently.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: William on February 10, 2013, 10:42:26 PM
Romaios, what is that?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 10, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the Evangelical purity-ring wearing woman is perhaps the most insane, frightening woman you could end up with (next to Rosie O'Donnell). They are the kind who will ask about marriage on the first date, expect to be treated like royalty by you, and want to introduce you to their equally insane family and talk about having six kids someday.
Well if they are honest, that's a good thing.

Well I mean being honest with what they want.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 11, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 11, 2013, 12:26:08 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
You should look at online dating.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: That person on February 11, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
Does a man work? Because I could be your roommate, and you could keep the blowup doll, and we'd be all covered really.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 11, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
Does a man work? Because I could be your roommate, and you could keep the blowup doll, and we'd be all covered really.
This might be the best suggestion yet James.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 11, 2013, 04:03:52 AM
Romaios, what is that?

It's a St. Catherine's ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Alexandria) people get after visiting her monastery at Sinai and worshiping her relics.

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on February 11, 2013, 04:14:02 PM
I'm a single, if somebody cares ;)

But, seriously, I know that most of you OC.net's guys are from USA, so it doesn't make any sense ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 11, 2013, 04:24:59 PM
Dominika, you're pretty enough to move to Poland for.  A guy might even get a double offer and could be friends with Pan Michal as well.

But alas.  Vamrat is no longer single.

Please ladies, no one kill yourself.  There are other, though obviously less perfect, men out there.  You'll find some cheap knockoff of me someday.  Whilst enjoying what should be marital bliss you'll while away your hours pining over what could have been between y'all and I.  At least you'll have the phantasies of me to keep you warm at night while the unfashionable oafs you've found yourselves shackled to snore away the best years of your life.

I love you all.

Goodbye and adieu.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 11, 2013, 04:41:15 PM
Romaios, what is that?

It's a St. Catherine's ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Alexandria) people get after visiting her monastery at Sinai and worshiping her relics.


So it's not really intended for "purity-keeping" in the evangelical sense then.

It still made my day.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 11, 2013, 04:50:16 PM
Romaios, what is that?

It's a St. Catherine's ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Alexandria) people get after visiting her monastery at Sinai and worshiping her relics.


So it's not really intended for "purity-keeping" in the evangelical sense then.

It still made my day.

The one St. Catherine received as a token of her mystical engagement to Christ was, sort of. She refused all her suitors, saving herself for her Bridegroom. 

The person I've seen wearing one was named Cătălin, so St. Catherine was his patron (matron?) Saint. He must have visited her monastery and got it there.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: William on February 11, 2013, 04:52:56 PM
A guy whose name is more or less Katelyn.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 11, 2013, 04:54:53 PM
The one St. Catherine received as a token of her mystical engagement to Christ was, sort of. She refused all her suitors, saving herself for her Bridegroom.  
Then there was Catherine of Sienna, who received a... "ring (http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=486496)" as a token of her mystical engagement...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 11, 2013, 05:00:15 PM
A guy whose name is more or less Katelyn.

It's quite common in Romania. The female version of Cătălin is Cătălina.

There's also Ecaterina, Caterina, Catrina, with all sorts of short forms: Cati, Catița, Catrinel.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 11, 2013, 05:04:07 PM
The one St. Catherine received as a token of her mystical engagement to Christ was, sort of. She refused all her suitors, saving herself for her Bridegroom.  
Then there was Catherine of Sienna, who received a... "ring (http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=486496)" as a token of her mystical engagement...

Once St. Catherine of Alexandria got hers, all consecrated Virgins in the West wanted one. I think Catholic nuns get a ring along with the veil and habit. Bishops wear them, too. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 11, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
Romaios, what is that?

It's a St. Catherine's ring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Alexandria) people get after visiting her monastery at Sinai and worshiping her relics.


So it's not really intended for "purity-keeping" in the evangelical sense then.

Nonsense! We shall take the ring and "baptize it" for use as a purity ring. So let it be written, so let it be done!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 12, 2013, 01:11:01 AM
So are there any females on here who would be willing to marry a somewhat younger man in a couple years? Attractive females only.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: SolEX01 on February 12, 2013, 02:25:12 AM
So are there any females on here who would be willing to marry a somewhat younger man in a couple years? Attractive females only.

There's always GOYA and you would have to worship at your nearest Greek Orthodox church.  Other Orthodox Churches have similar youth programs.

Quote
The mission and goal of GOYA ministry is to lead our young people into experiencing the Holy Orthodox Faith. By developing a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ and becoming active sacramental members of the living Church, our young people will be equipped with tools necessary to assist them in their journey toward salvation. GOYA is an opportunity for Orthodox kids ages 13-18 to get together and do things from helping the community to taking trips just for the fun of it. Goyans can learn leadership skills, how to work as a team, and that our church is always there for us.

http://www.holytrinitygoc.org/ministries/goya/ (http://www.holytrinitygoc.org/ministries/goya/)

I just think back to the GOYA Presidents of the last 15 years at my church who married interfaith (no evidence that the grooms were chrismated or converted to Orthodoxy).  Since you're a diehard Orthodox Christian, you can help reverse the trend.  I wish you good luck.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 12, 2013, 03:55:47 AM
I'm a single, if somebody cares ;)

But, seriously, I know that most of you OC.net's guys are from USA, so it doesn't make any sense ;)

For the sake of all good, don't give them ideas! Poland will be overrun by desperate Hyperdox singles.

(http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2012/09/muslim-riots.jpeg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 12, 2013, 04:05:29 AM
^ Post + that picture equals pure win :)

Not that I don't want to move to Poland now...  :angel:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on February 12, 2013, 03:42:04 PM
^ Post + that picture equals pure win :)
Yeah, I burst out laughing seeing this

For the sake of all good, don't give them ideas! Poland will be overrun by desperate Hyperdox singles.
But all Orthodox men would be warmly welcomed here. I think there is a lack of believer and practicing Ortodox men  ;D I would calm down them  :angel: (or maybe:  :police:)

Not that I don't want to move to Poland now...  :angel:
I think there a lot of single, nice and atrractive Orthodox women in Poland (of course including me ;) kidding a bit), so, why not? ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 12, 2013, 10:31:39 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 12, 2013, 10:38:06 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Michal Kalina has a sister...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 12, 2013, 11:06:03 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Michal Kalina has a sister...

Yeah I saw in the pictures thread....she isn't half bad. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 12, 2013, 11:07:15 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Michal Kalina has a sister...

Yeah I saw in the pictures thread....she isn't half bad. Not bad at all.
Well as long as its a step up from the blow-up doll.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 12, 2013, 11:08:58 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Michal Kalina has a sister...

Yeah I saw in the pictures thread....she isn't half bad. Not bad at all.
Well as long as its a step up from the blow-up doll.

Hey, you talk nicer about Michael Kalina's sister! That's my future wife  :D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 12, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
Dominika, could you find me an Orthodox wife from Poland? I'm not too picky; as long as she's at least decently attractive, not too materialistic and is a practicing Orthodox Christian (not a Cradle Christopher), I'd be happy.
Michal Kalina has a sister...

Yeah I saw in the pictures thread....she isn't half bad. Not bad at all.
Well as long as its a step up from the blow-up doll.

Hey, you talk nicer about Michael Kalina's sister! That's my future wife  :D
If Michal approves to do a little Photoshoppin'...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 12, 2013, 11:11:30 PM
I have to get a picture of myself in order for Michael to give to her, anyone here good at photoshop? Maybe take my face and put it on the body of the guy on the cover of those muscle/fitness magazines?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 12, 2013, 11:19:52 PM
Yeah I could do it, I just need a good headshot of you though. Maybe have the lighting facing directly on your face.

Although yours is gonna have to wait. I have something much more important to work on at the moment that came up a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Karaleighmum on February 17, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
this is definitely one of the funnier threads i've seen thus far :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Trebor135 on February 18, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
I'm twenty-two, a guy, and living in Ontario, Canada.

It's going to be hard finding potential candidates for marriage, since I'm converting to Eastern Orthodoxy in a pretty secular country where the Christians in large numbers are Catholic and Protestant and I'd like the household not to be divided at all in matters of faith. Plus, I'm still in university and not entirely sure what I want to do with my life. Under the right circumstances, a girlfriend might be nice to have, but I'm not staying awake thinking about how lonely I am or anything. Not having access to the sacraments yet is far more important to me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 18, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
I have to get a picture of myself in order for Michael to give to her, anyone here good at photoshop? Maybe take my face and put it on the body of the guy on the cover of those muscle/fitness magazines?

Glad to help an Orthodox brother in need. Here you are:

(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/attachments/haastattelut-ja-kuvat/69878d1314794183-team-m-m-gymlog-can-you-do-.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on February 18, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
this is definitely one of the funnier threads i've seen thus far :)

Actually, it's very serious thread. Everybody here try to not be alone ;) The thing is that the posts are quite funny, but the topic itself not really ;)



I have to get a picture of myself in order for Michael to give to her, anyone here good at photoshop? Maybe take my face and put it on the body of the guy on the cover of those muscle/fitness magazines?

Glad to help an Orthodox brother in need. Here you are:

(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/attachments/haastattelut-ja-kuvat/69878d1314794183-team-m-m-gymlog-can-you-do-.jpg)

Women don't like men like this  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 18, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
Women don't like men like this  :laugh:

I completely understand that. The smile is really over the top.

James, you might want to work on that before you move to Poland. Remember Orthodox hesychia.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRx7PpGSezK6uD2Ay-3X49lImkuy1_vnl1PpyXEtVzXfdhmbXp8XA)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on February 19, 2013, 01:34:44 AM
Turning 35 in a couple of months, but still single and proud!  :laugh:
Yes, but are you a tall, handsome US citizen?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on February 19, 2013, 01:36:26 AM
this is definitely one of the funnier threads i've seen thus far :)

Actually, it's very serious thread. Everybody here try to not be alone ;) The thing is that the posts are quite funny, but the topic itself not really ;)
Sincerity and humanity makes for the best of comedy.

And you are right. Giant muscles that big are gross. That guy probably has no life outside of the gym-no time for his woman either.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 19, 2013, 01:55:51 AM
And you are right. Giant muscles that big are gross. That guy probably has no life outside of the gym-no time for his woman either.

I bet he's also gay, vain, is on steroids, is dumb, has small-man complex, and also has a small male sexual organ.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 19, 2013, 02:09:15 PM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 19, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.

Plural?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: sheenj on February 19, 2013, 02:26:56 PM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.

Plural?

Do I need to bust out the anatomy charts?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Schultz on February 19, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
At a recent gig I was playing, a man came up to the door and asked my friend's band War On Women were playing (FYI, they're a pretty aggressive feminist punk rock band).  When informed that they were, he replied, "Hm, I can't get behind that.  They're too hermaphroditic for my tastes," and then left.

JamesR may have just become too hermaphroditic for this board's tastes.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 19, 2013, 02:30:09 PM
Oh wait, you silly Americans count those as being two sexual organs.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: sheenj on February 19, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
Oh wait, you silly Americans count those as being two sexual organs.

You're still forgetting the biggest (hehehe) member of the group...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 19, 2013, 02:33:29 PM
THREE?!  :police:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Hiwot on February 19, 2013, 02:35:04 PM

Women don't like men like this  :laugh:

Thank you!

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: sheenj on February 19, 2013, 02:35:25 PM
THREE?!  :police:

Wait that's not normal? :P
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 19, 2013, 02:36:09 PM
I...uhm...uhhh
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Hiwot on February 19, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
At a recent gig I was playing, a man came up to the door and asked my friend's band War On Women were playing (FYI, they're a pretty aggressive feminist punk rock band).  When informed that they were, he replied, "Hm, I can't get behind that.  They're too hermaphroditic for my tastes," and then left.

JamesR may have just become too hermaphroditic for this board's tastes.

LOL
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Hiwot on February 19, 2013, 02:39:38 PM
I...uhm...uhhh
:laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 19, 2013, 04:37:48 PM
Oh wait, you silly Americans count those as being two sexual organs.

Pretty much, yeah--sometimes even THREE!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on February 19, 2013, 05:17:13 PM
Do I quote Master of Disguise on party hors d'oeuvres now or not... ???
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: KBN1 on February 21, 2013, 01:09:38 AM
Do I quote Master of Disguise on party hors d'oeuvres now or not... ???

Wait, you can quote Master of Disguise?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on February 21, 2013, 03:02:47 AM
Do I quote Master of Disguise on party hors d'oeuvres now or not... ???

Wait, you can quote Master of Disguise?
Well, this is what came to mind when I last read this thread. "Do you have a little wiener and some tiny nuts?"
http://youtu.be/RRa2B4-NLbI
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: That person on February 21, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.
Is anyone else puzzled by the quotation marks here?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Aindriú on February 21, 2013, 09:03:50 AM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.
Is anyone else puzzled by the quotation marks here?

JamesR is actually an octopus, and that's not even his final form.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: William on February 21, 2013, 06:24:19 PM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.
Is anyone else puzzled by the quotation marks here?

I gotta admit I laughed at this one.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on February 21, 2013, 06:25:42 PM
One look at my "male sexual organs" is probably enough to hook any woman....or send her running for the hills.
Is anyone else puzzled by the quotation marks here?

JamesR is actually an octopus, and that's not even his final form.

Oh dear  :o

Makes me think of the Gamera movies for some reason.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Nadege on February 23, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the Evangelical purity-ring wearing woman is perhaps the most insane, frightening woman you could end up with (next to Rosie O'Donnell). They are the kind who will ask about marriage on the first date, expect to be treated like royalty by you, and want to introduce you to their equally insane family and talk about having six kids someday.
I am 34 and divorced and love my purity ring.  Not only I'm actually not practicing extramarital sex, but it also looks just like a standard silver wedding band and keeps (most) men from bothering me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 24, 2013, 06:58:00 PM
For JamesR:

http://forgivenjewelry.com/chastity-and-abstinence-rings/true-love-waits-spanish-gold-finish-sizes-6-9
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 24, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
(http://forgivenjewelry.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/s/rspub.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Nadege on February 24, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
Wow, beautiful!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Tikhon.of.Colorado on February 25, 2013, 12:58:38 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
James, you remind me of a funny event.  At Orthodox summer camp, the priests were talking to us about our future spouses.  We were to say things we would want in a spouse, and one of the boys said they wanted a girl that was "submissive."  The tension after that comment could be cut with a knife.  Let me tell you, the girls didn't talk to him for the rest of camp!

In other news, this thread gives me so many giggles.  I miss ismi, though.  I wonder if she's still active here.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 25, 2013, 10:32:44 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, doesn't carry too much emotional baggage, can cook and won't interfere too much in my religious life.
James, you remind me of a funny event.  At Orthodox summer camp, the priests were talking to us about our future spouses.  We were to say things we would want in a spouse, and one of the boys said they wanted a girl that was "submissive."  The tension after that comment could be cut with a knife.  Let me tell you, the girls didn't talk to him for the rest of camp!

In other news, this thread gives me so many giggles.  I miss ismi, though.  I wonder if she's still active here.

The word submissive has taken on different connotations.  It's generally thought of as a bad thing.  Perhaps the poor bloke just thought he was using it the biblical way where the man is in charge in the relationship.  I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

And I share in the Ismi missing.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 25, 2013, 10:50:04 AM
I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

Really. There are already perfectly good websites for that!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 25, 2013, 11:54:20 AM
I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

Really. There are already perfectly good websites for that!

For finding Orthodox BDSM partners?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 25, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

Really. There are already perfectly good websites for that!

For finding Orthodox BDSM partners?

Sure, I know a fetish/bdsm site that has an Orthodox discussion group on it. Though the numbers are currently rather low.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 25, 2013, 01:42:50 PM
I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

Really. There are already perfectly good websites for that!

For finding Orthodox BDSM partners?

Sure, I know a fetish/bdsm site that has an Orthodox discussion group on it. Though the numbers are currently rather low.

 :-X
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 25, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Eww! Too much information!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: augustin717 on February 25, 2013, 02:55:55 PM
I highly doubt he was looking for a BDSM partner at an Orthodox summer camp.

Really. There are already perfectly good websites for that!

For finding Orthodox BDSM partners?

Sure, I know a fetish/bdsm site that has an Orthodox discussion group on it. Though the numbers are currently rather low.
Is it about wearing tortuously long headscarves?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on February 25, 2013, 03:00:34 PM
I don't recognize augustin717's posts anymore due to such a light-colored avatar. I want vintage photographs back!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 25, 2013, 04:14:58 PM
Is it about wearing tortuously long headscarves?

More likely:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kz4j4iMws2M/T_U31nHE1RI/AAAAAAAAMnw/IT9-TokItNQ/s1600/244057-05.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 04:56:43 AM
I'm not too picky; I just want an Orthodox woman who sees me as God in her eyes and will submit to me and obey everything I say.

/misogynist redneck
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 26, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
I'm not too picky; I just want an Orthodox woman who sees me as God in her eyes and will submit to me and obey everything I say.

/misogynist redneck
James, you're a swell human, I am sure you will find a nice, submissive helpmeet quasi-human to lead someday.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
I wouldn't mind marrying a Vietnamese woman; judging from my experience with them, they're some of the most submissive, kind and reliable women I have ever met.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: sheenj on February 26, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
I wouldn't mind marrying a Vietnamese woman; judging from my experience with them, they're some of the most submissive, kind and reliable women I have ever met.

Plus, she'll love you long time!
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I'll see myself out now.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on February 26, 2013, 04:35:14 PM
I'm not too picky; I just want an Orthodox woman who sees me as God in her eyes and will submit to me and obey everything I say.

/misogynist redneck
James, you're a swell human, I am sure you will find a nice, submissive helpmeet quasi-human to lead someday.

I wouldn't mind marrying a Vietnamese woman; judging from my experience with them, they're some of the most submissive, kind and reliable women I have ever met.

James, you are one of a kind! Don't eva change!

Enjoy being single singular for forever.

<3

othornorm 2013!!!!!!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 26, 2013, 04:36:49 PM
JamesR, I think I can speak from experience if I say women don't appreciate remarks like that.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: That person on February 26, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
I feel like ethnicity probably isn't something that should be among your first considerations.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
I feel like ethnicity probably isn't something that should be among your first considerations.

Why not? Second to religion, I don't see why it shouldn't. You could infer a lot about what a person's personality and behavior will probably be like due to their ethnicity. This is one of the reasons why I would always take an Asian or Hispanic woman over a White or Black woman (no offense to them, they're just not my type).
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on February 26, 2013, 04:52:46 PM
I feel like ethnicity probably isn't something that should be among your first considerations.

Why not? Second to religion, I don't see why it shouldn't. You could infer a lot about what a person's personality and behavior will probably be like due to their ethnicity. This is one of the reasons why I would always take an Asian or Hispanic woman over a White or Black woman (no offense to them, they're just not my type).

Enjoy!*

(http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/asia/asoutl.gif)












*Sorry Isa, I know this is your territory, so to speak, and I don't pretend to begin to even rise to the lowest contour line of your greatness.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: dzheremi on February 26, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
I didn't know you had so many choices, James. Of course there's nothing wrong with having preferences, but I hope they're not based on stereotypes of how someone will or should act because of their race or background. (Which, frankly, I don't know how they couldn't be, because "Asian", "Black", "White", "Hispanic", etc. aren't personality or behavioral types.)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 26, 2013, 05:02:16 PM
I wouldn't mind marrying a Vietnamese woman; judging from my experience with them, they're some of the most submissive, kind and reliable women I have ever met.

They're cute alright, but don't ever tick them off!

(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7193/vc32.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
...because "Asian", "Black", "White", "Hispanic", etc. aren't personality or behavioral types.)

I highly disagree with you, but out of respect, I'll take what you've said into consideration.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: dzheremi on February 26, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
Well, maybe I could explain myself a little better, too. My point isn't that you can't say that such-and-such a people are a certain way based on your experience with members of that cultural/ethnic/whatever group, but that being able to do that doesn't mean that subsequent people you meet from the group should conform to that way of acting. I've known Asians who were submissive, but many others who weren't. It's really only an issue anyway if people start thinking "I want a wife/husband of X background because people of X background are _____ (some stereotype)". which unfortunately seems pretty common, and not limited to dating, either (e.g., my grandmother, Hispanic, complained that African American nurses at the recovery center she stayed at after shoulder surgery were not good people, and she would rather have a Hispanic nurse because "we know how to treat our old people"...and then she'd wink at me like we had some sort of special racist decoder ring bond or something...ugh. This is not a good way to relate to people, is all I mean.)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 26, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
What's wrong with white women?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 05:18:56 PM
What's wrong with white women?

In America? Spoiled, materialistic, oftentimes b-wordy, not too smart, carry the most emotional baggage...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 05:20:51 PM
Well, maybe I could explain myself a little better, too. My point isn't that you can't say that such-and-such a people are a certain way based on your experience with members of that cultural/ethnic/whatever group, but that being able to do that doesn't mean that subsequent people you meet from the group should conform to that way of acting. I've known Asians who were submissive, but many others who weren't. It's really only an issue anyway if people start thinking "I want a wife/husband of X background because people of X background are _____ (some stereotype)". which unfortunately seems pretty common, and not limited to dating, either (e.g., my grandmother, Hispanic, complained that African American nurses at the recovery center she stayed at after shoulder surgery were not good people, and she would rather have a Hispanic nurse because "we know how to treat our old people"...and then she'd wink at me like we had some sort of special racist decoder ring bond or something...ugh. This is not a good way to relate to people, is all I mean.)

You make a good point. Okay let me rephrase my statement; I observe more desirable traits for a partner among my own Hispanic kind and among Asians, and observe more less desirable traits among Black and White women. While these traits may not be related to their race and/or ethnic background, I do observe them more among certain groups.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on February 26, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
What's wrong with white women?
carry the most emotional baggage...

Something that might come in handy for you to place your own carry-on emotions in.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 26, 2013, 05:24:31 PM
This thread: the gift that keeps on giving!  ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 26, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
What's wrong with white women?
carry the most emotional baggage...

Something that might come in handy for you to place your own carry-on emotions in.

In retrospect, maybe I need a hardcore, abusive Black woman to smack the emotions out of me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: That person on February 26, 2013, 05:28:03 PM
Violent, abusive people come in all colors. :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Schultz on February 26, 2013, 05:28:32 PM
Well, maybe I could explain myself a little better, too. My point isn't that you can't say that such-and-such a people are a certain way based on your experience with members of that cultural/ethnic/whatever group, but that being able to do that doesn't mean that subsequent people you meet from the group should conform to that way of acting. I've known Asians who were submissive, but many others who weren't. It's really only an issue anyway if people start thinking "I want a wife/husband of X background because people of X background are _____ (some stereotype)". which unfortunately seems pretty common, and not limited to dating, either (e.g., my grandmother, Hispanic, complained that African American nurses at the recovery center she stayed at after shoulder surgery were not good people, and she would rather have a Hispanic nurse because "we know how to treat our old people"...and then she'd wink at me like we had some sort of special racist decoder ring bond or something...ugh. This is not a good way to relate to people, is all I mean.)

You make a good point. Okay let me rephrase my statement; I observe more desirable traits for a partner among my own Hispanic kind and among Asians, and observe more less desirable traits among Black and White women. While these traits may not be related to their race and/or ethnic background, I do observe them more among certain groups.

So, in other words, you're prejudicial and have selective senses.

Fair enough, at least you're admitting it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: dzheremi on February 26, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
What's wrong with white women?

In America? Spoiled, materialistic, oftentimes b-wordy, not too smart, carry the most emotional baggage...

So is it really that they're white, or that they're women, or that they're Americans, or what...? Cos I know an awful lot of white guys and people from other countries of all hues that basically all of this applies to. This seems like you're conflating a lot of variables or characteristics into one package which, as a result, probably is less than realistic. Are you maybe watching too much Jersey Shore or whatever?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on February 26, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
This thread: the gift that keeps on giving!  ;D

Better than Coronation Street and EastEnders put together!

/popcorn
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on February 26, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
James, have you read El laberinto de la soledad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Labyrinth_of_Solitude) by Octavio Paz? I don't know if your Hispanic ancestry is Mexican, but you pretty much agree with the Mexican as he describes him:

Quote
La dualidad del mexicano está presente en todos los aspectos de su vida. En el lenguaje popular por ejemplo, hombría, dice Octavio Paz, es ser “macho”. Éste “es un ser hermético, encerrado en sí mismo, capaz de guardarse y guardar lo que se le confía”. Es decir, prefiere encerrarse en su propia soledad, en su laberinto. El no abrirse y confiar en los demás, escribe el autor, es el ideal de decoro en la cultura mexicana. En el momento en que este confía y renuncia a su soledad, pasa a ser un “rajado”, en otras palabras, renuncia a su hombría.

Otro aspecto en el que la influencia de esta duplicidad es inevitable es en sus relaciones con el mundo femenino.

La mujer, en México, dice Paz, “siempre está a la espera de lo que el hombre diga”, “es el reflejo de la voluntad y querer masculinos”, “es el producto de la vanidad del hombre heredada de los españoles”. Es, continúa el ensayista, “un ser oscuro, secreto y pasivo, no se le atribuyen malos instintos: se pretende que ni siquiera los tiene”, o sea que el mexicano disimula, aparenta no ver nada, hace de cuenta que no están ahí. Paz dice que en otros países se festeja abiertamente a la mujer en comparación con los mexicanos, que prefieren ocultar las gracias y virtudes de sus mujeres. Pero, ante la vida social, sus mujeres son “señoras”. Nuevamente vemos que la apariencia prima en esta cultura.

Source (http://literatura-ele-mdp.blogspot.ro/2007/01/sos-voz-ii-octavio-paz-mscaras.html)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 26, 2013, 06:28:36 PM
What do James and the Klan have in common?

They both don't think he should be dating white women!

 :D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on February 27, 2013, 06:09:17 AM
What do James and the Klan have in common?

They both don't think he should be dating white women!

 :D

LOL.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on February 27, 2013, 06:27:28 AM
What's wrong with white women?

In America? Spoiled, materialistic, oftentimes b-wordy, not too smart, carry the most emotional baggage...

So is it really that they're white, or that they're women, or that they're Americans, or what...? Cos I know an awful lot of white guys and people from other countries of all hues that basically all of this applies to. This seems like you're conflating a lot of variables or characteristics into one package which, as a result, probably is less than realistic. Are you maybe watching too much Jersey Shore or whatever?

No, he really is that way.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on February 27, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
What's wrong with white women?
carry the most emotional baggage...

Something that might come in handy for you to place your own carry-on emotions in.

In retrospect, maybe I need a hardcore, abusive Black woman to smack the emotions out of me.

I said it before, I'll say it again: we need a vomit smiley.

It's just lovely how people think a Christian board is the place to vent their hate.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on February 27, 2013, 06:29:07 AM
I feel like ethnicity probably isn't something that should be among your first considerations.

Why not? Second to religion, I don't see why it shouldn't. You could infer a lot about what a person's personality and behavior will probably be like due to their ethnicity. This is one of the reasons why I would always take an Asian or Hispanic woman over a White or Black woman (no offense to them, they're just not my type).

Yay racism! Except when it's about you, right?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on February 28, 2013, 01:49:01 AM

It's just lovely how people think a Christian board is the place to vent their hate.
More tastelessness than hate.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: FormerReformer on February 28, 2013, 02:23:23 AM
What's wrong with white women?
carry the most emotional baggage...

Something that might come in handy for you to place your own carry-on emotions in.

In retrospect, maybe I need a hardcore, abusive Black woman to smack the emotions out of me.

I said it before, I'll say it again: we need a vomit smiley.

It's just lovely how people think a Christian board is the place to vent their hate.

Have you not BEEN on some of the other Christian boards? This place is tame by comparison to most others. When every other poster on here (not just the returned Alfred Perrson) feels the need to post in alternating CAPS, BOLDS, AND  THE COLOR RED, all while saying "MY FRIEND" before spewing the MOST AWFUL VITRIOL one can possibly read- then I'll start worrying about the state of OC.net.

Lord, have mercy.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 28, 2013, 05:21:13 AM
Is there a specific site you are referring to?

Unless its Christianforums.com

I'd say all of those Christians need to learn some shame. It's really embarrassing.

JamesR get back to you in a minute.

If I was to rank Asian women, Koreans would be at the top and Filipinos at the bottom.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 28, 2013, 05:21:13 AM
So, in other words, you're prejudicial and have selective senses.

Fair enough, at least you're admitting it.
Well atleast he is honest, even if he is wrong.

He sure demonstrates a lot of verve, but he'll cool down after his first relationship/heartbreak.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 28, 2013, 05:43:58 AM
Filipinas at the bottom? How come? Personally, I'd probably kick it off a lot easier with a Filipina woman than any other Asian woman, mostly due to the fact that in some cultural aspects, they are very similar to us Mexicans. They aren't called the Mexicans of the Asian world for nothing. One girl I dated's mom was from the Phillippines, she seemed pretty nice.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on February 28, 2013, 05:50:50 AM
They're also more Catholic than the Pope.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 28, 2013, 10:47:48 AM
Filipinas at the bottom? How come? Personally, I'd probably kick it off a lot easier with a Filipina woman than any other Asian woman, mostly due to the fact that in some cultural aspects, they are very similar to us Mexicans. They aren't called the Mexicans of the Asian world for nothing. One girl I dated's mom was from the Phillippines, she seemed pretty nice.

I don't think that whoever said that was trying to be gracious.  Just sayin'....



Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NightOwl on February 28, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
What's wrong with white women?

In America? Spoiled, materialistic, oftentimes b-wordy, not too smart, carry the most emotional baggage...

Secular materialism isn't a phenomenon unique to the U.S., it's the prevailing and fastest growing world religion. You can thank 18th century European thought and 19th century economic transformations for that.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: minasoliman on February 28, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Christianmingle dot com:

Find God's match in you...

...but if get raped, God's punishment in you!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on February 28, 2013, 10:47:05 PM
Christianmingle dot com:

Find God's match in you...

...but if get raped, God's punishment in you!

Never expected you to say something like this.

Have you evolved into being more comedic?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on March 01, 2013, 10:15:52 AM
Christianmingle dot com:

Find God's match in you...

...but if get raped, God's punishment in you!

Awesome.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: minasoliman on March 01, 2013, 10:37:03 AM
Christianmingle dot com:

Find God's match in you...

...but if get raped, God's punishment in you!

Never expected you to say something like this.

Have you evolved into being more comedic?
I've always been a comical person
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Velsigne on March 02, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
What's wrong with white women?

In America? Spoiled, materialistic, oftentimes b-wordy, not too smart, carry the most emotional baggage...

Whatsa matta James, blonde girl at church snub you? 

Maybe she got on this site and started reading some of your abundantly shared great honest thoughts.  ;D

Por El Pobrecito Mexicano que a veces habla como un necio

Con mucho sentimiento para ti:

Tu vives esta rodeada de pobreza,
No tengas pena, no tengas verguenza
que es muy triste y muy dura esta vida
y deja los demas y ponte a luchar

tambien soy pobre, soy pobre como tu
tengo a mi madre, a y mi esposa ya mis hijos
que mi piden algo y no les peudo dar
que mi piden algo y no les peudo dar
Pero, se luchar, se luchar y triunfare
y un destino cruel mi vida detener
 
Se que solo asi, luchando entre un pared,
Se qui solo asi,  luchando entre un pared

Ay, Dios mio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjCIazQmmE
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 23, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Dominika, you're pretty enough to move to Poland for.  A guy might even get a double offer and could be friends with Pan Michal as well.

With me? I always thought I'm stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf-herder! Love ya <3
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on March 24, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
Dominika, you're pretty enough to move to Poland for.  A guy might even get a double offer and could be friends with Pan Michal as well.

With me? I always thought I'm stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf-herder! Love ya <3

Answering (or better: realizing that somebody has mentioned you here) one and half month later...  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 24, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
Answering (or better: realizing that somebody has mentioned you here) one and half month later...  :laugh:

The reason why I was single for so long LOL
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on March 24, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
Answering (or better: realizing that somebody has mentioned you here) one and half month later...  :laugh:

The reason why I was single for so long LOL

But you're not anymore, so maybe that's not so bad tactic  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 24, 2013, 03:51:58 PM
But you're not anymore, so maybe that's not so bad tactic  :laugh:

Long-term one, that's for sure :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on March 24, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
But you're not anymore, so maybe that's not so bad tactic  :laugh:

Long-term one, that's for sure :)

But unless you're not so impatient (e.g like me), the effect is most important and it's worth to use this method although it's a long-term one.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on March 30, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, can cook (or order take out if she can't  ;)) and will give me my space. I hate the emotional clingy-ness and always-wanting-to-talk thing that so many women have. I love you, but jeeze, why do I need to talk to you about it every waking moment of the day? Finally, it'd be nice if she could satisfy my ego every once in a while; you know, sit me down on my favorite chair, bring me my coffee and a hot meal, wear something attractive, massage me while I eat and just tell me how wise, knowledgeable and attractive of a man I am  :angel:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on March 30, 2013, 01:40:15 AM
it'd be nice if she could satisfy my ego every once in a while

You want a woman, or a miracle worker?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 30, 2013, 02:25:58 AM
it'd be nice if she could satisfy my ego every once in a while

You want a woman, or a miracle worker?

You saying JamesR is the Hellen Keller of dating?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dionysii on March 30, 2013, 02:55:23 AM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, can cook (or order take out if she can't  ;)) and will give me my space. I hate the emotional clingy-ness and always-wanting-to-talk thing that so many women have. I love you, but jeeze, why do I need to talk to you about it every waking moment of the day? Finally, it'd be nice if she could satisfy my ego every once in a while; you know, sit me down on my favorite chair, bring me my coffee and a hot meal, wear something attractive, massage me while I eat and just tell me how wise, knowledgeable and attractive of a man I am  :angel:
For what it's worth, I suggest be very picky and avoid any consideration of all american and most european women as well as recognize that most advice about these kinds of things is poison that will destroy our lives if we let it.  To restate the last bit politely, a good marriage can be preserved by dumping many a worthless "friend." 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on March 30, 2013, 04:50:22 AM
In case some people hadn't guessed already, I'm single  :angel:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 30, 2013, 07:26:49 AM
In case some people hadn't guessed already, I'm single  :angel:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a6f0c023f0ec6984c5d17cba769cd947/tumblr_mhsw9n926i1qc0sdbo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on March 30, 2013, 05:57:45 PM
I just want a woman that's decently attractive, can cook (or order take out if she can't  ;)) and will give me my space. I hate the emotional clingy-ness and always-wanting-to-talk thing that so many women have. I love you, but jeeze, why do I need to talk to you about it every waking moment of the day? Finally, it'd be nice if she could satisfy my ego every once in a while; you know, sit me down on my favorite chair, bring me my coffee and a hot meal, wear something attractive, massage me while I eat and just tell me how wise, knowledgeable and attractive of a man I am  :angel:

Remember that you gets what you pays for, and hire a maid. ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on March 30, 2013, 06:06:35 PM
In case some people hadn't guessed already, I'm single  :angel:

(img)

Thank you, I guess...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 30, 2013, 06:15:14 PM
Thank you, I guess...

The pleasure is all mine. All. Believe me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on March 30, 2013, 06:20:28 PM
I smell a bromance in the making...  :-*
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pan Michał on March 30, 2013, 06:36:04 PM
I smell a bromance in the making...  :-*

When all is said (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFl6IO8hJ4M) <3
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NightOwl on May 05, 2013, 10:53:30 PM
Met a really nice girl at the Pascha service last night but she's leaving for a different state very soon...  :-\ My luck is the worst
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on May 10, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
Met a really nice girl at the Pascha service last night but she's leaving for a different state very soon...  :-\ My luck is the worst

try long distance maybe... ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on November 06, 2013, 02:07:29 AM
Romaios, want to start a business importing those St. Catherine rings?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Romaios on November 06, 2013, 02:58:52 AM
Romaios, want to start a business importing those St. Catherine rings?


Why sure! If we sell one to every single ocnetter...  :P
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on November 06, 2013, 03:17:01 AM
Met a really nice girl at the Pascha service last night but she's leaving for a different state very soon...  :-\ My luck is the worst
I finally met a cute guy at church on Sunday. I left almost right after service though because I had some work to do. I still didn't get enough time to do that work.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on November 06, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
Did not want to open a new topic for this (but can be done so if admins want to)...do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: xOrthodox4Christx on November 07, 2013, 12:39:25 AM
Did not want to open a new topic for this (but can be done so if admins want to)...do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Sure, I believe in soul mates. God made Adam a perfect mate. I think He made for each person, a perfect match.

But, I don't have anything experience-wise to share with that belief; I am not looking for a mate at the moment.  :laugh:
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on November 07, 2013, 12:50:39 AM
Well, I am met a priest who claims that he prayed to God...and that he got what he prayed for. ;D

I hope that finding the "right person" is almost impissible or perhaps better to say rare...there is so much to consider...patience, circumstances, despair, frustration...I just am certain that marrying someone is one of the biggest decisions to make and us not something that should be rushed. It's just that when I look around, I do not see the "perfect" couple...only few have appeared so.
Perhaps the most troubling thing is how to distinguish between "God will take care of it" and " God gave you the looks and other means and you should use them...and not just wait for HER to knock on you door."
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on November 07, 2013, 05:54:46 PM
do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...

In some way yes. But only in some way. I mean, that God gives us some occasions to meet such person(s) with whom we can be good marriage which is a path to Salvation we cross together. But it doesn't mean such person is an ideal (we have to adapt to each other, change ourselves a bit) or that it'll be a certain moment to meet him/her and if we don't use the chance, it'll never repeat. It's difficult to describe what's my opinion on it as sometimes I think that there is a particular man that God would like I married him and just have to wait for the proper time to meet him.

can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for.

That's the most important thing. Waiting - it means to keep the virginity to give the spouse it. And praying - it's just to trust that God knows better who and when, and it's not only the prayer to meet in right moment the right person, but it's also an ask to God to recognize that this is the right moment and the right person. I've heard about such prayers that the people got what they'd prayed for. And that's also the advice of my priest to me: to wait and to pray to meet the right person. In his case it has worked. But for now i have some moments of scepticism, because it's very difficult to find a nice (by look and personality) man, that's Orthodox Christian (or even just a Christian) and not married/in a relationship. At least it's difficult here, in Poland. And I know, I'm quite specific person, that makes the issue more problematic ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on November 07, 2013, 06:27:54 PM
I had a Subway sandwich bag in my hand and the Rite Aid clerk said "You are lucky to have Subway, I haven't eaten since 12".

Coulda ran with it but hey she kinda gave me a feminine Ben Stein vibe with the voice, so it was sorta a turn off.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Silly Westerners and their romantic ideals. I believe no one in their right mind believed anything like this few hundred years ago.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 11:50:10 AM
I think that the silly idea is that God's providence has everything planned for us except our romantic partner.

Now, I don't think that the meeting of the two people who are to love each other and get married as planned by Providence follows the chick flick routine, or star-crossed scripts. It's a terribly messy thing and as with our own salvation, can go very wrong.

God's plans for us, including our partner, are invitations, not a path He forces or manipulates us into walking.


do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Silly Westerners and their romantic ideals. I believe no one in their right mind believed anything like this few hundred years ago.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 12:01:32 PM
I think that the silly idea is that God's providence has everything planned for us except our romantic partner.

God doesn't have everything planned for us. He gave us free will and expects us to use it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 12:02:44 PM
It's a terribly messy thing

Let me complement that... It's messy because our hearts are filled with impurity. Everything related to love is childlike simple. It's us that have become unable to "be like children" in everything, including romantic love. All the perfectly divine, beautiful, just and good insights that we have about love in our most innocent age, we put behind under the label of "imaturity" or from the fear of being hurt. We settle for lukewarm relations, or lustful relations, or no relations at all, just because we do not want to repent from the fact that we may have broken that original supernatural love, or because it is very difficult to understand how the other part could not see what was so clear for us.

In any case, only trusting the God who is Three and One, Divine and Human, we can go forward believing that we will find true love, although we went through the death of true love.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 12:06:02 PM
I think that the silly idea is that God's providence has everything planned for us except our romantic partner.

God doesn't have everything planned for us. He gave us free will and expects us to use it.

He does. Every single second in His desiring will.

God's perfect planning of our lives does not imply a contradiction with our free will.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 12:26:07 PM
I think that the silly idea is that God's providence has everything planned for us except our romantic partner.

God doesn't have everything planned for us. He gave us free will and expects us to use it.

He does. Every single second in His desiring will.

God's perfect planning of our lives does not imply a contradiction with our free will.

Quote from: Jason Wisdom
Dear young Christian: don’t waste years confused about God’s plan for you. His plan is that you be conformed to the image of Christ. Go live.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 08, 2013, 12:26:50 PM
do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Silly Westerners and their romantic ideals. I believe no one in their right mind believed anything like this few hundred years ago.

They did, actually. Wasn't Romeo and Juliet written a few hundred years ago?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Silly Westerners and their romantic ideals. I believe no one in their right mind believed anything like this few hundred years ago.

They did, actually. Wasn't Romeo and Juliet written a few hundred years ago?

I still don't think it was similar kind of mainstream idea that Putnik Namernik, Fabio Leite and the like are promoting. AFAIK it used to be more like a contract between two familylines. Of course there was a lot variation between different cultures though.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 08, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
All the perfectly divine, beautiful, just and good insights that we have about love in our most innocent age, we put behind under the label of "imaturity" or from the fear of being hurt. We settle for lukewarm relations, or lustful relations, or no relations at all, just because we do not want to repent from the fact that we may have broken that original supernatural love, or because it is very difficult to understand how the other part could not see what was so clear for us.

Your theory is seriously flawed. I can't remember having insights about love in my "most innocent age", let alone just and good insights.

do you guys believein soul mates or the existnce in the right one...can you be certain when you meet the right person that such is the person you have been waiting for and praying for. Do you know of any cases?

Silly Westerners and their romantic ideals. I believe no one in their right mind believed anything like this few hundred years ago.

They did, actually. Wasn't Romeo and Juliet written a few hundred years ago?

I still don't think it was similar kind of mainstream idea that Putnik Namernik, Fabi Leite are promoting. AFAIK it used to be more like a contract between two familylines. Of course there was a lot variation between different cultures though.

Those things (the idea of romantic love and the idea of marriage as a deal between two families) don't necessarily exclude eachother.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
Those things (the idea of romantic love and the idea of marriage as a deal between two families) don't necessarily exclude eachother.

Not theoretically but in practice they do. Nowadays these ideas are extremely individualistic.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: LizaSymonenko on November 08, 2013, 12:52:19 PM
...so, "falling in love" is a fairly new invention?  

Are you saying that a thousand years ago, two people couldn't meet and fall in love with each other?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on November 08, 2013, 12:53:43 PM
...so, "falling in love" is a fairly new invention?  

Are you saying that a thousand years ago, two people couldn't meet and fall in love with each other?
I fear we may lose the ability to fall in love someday.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
...so, "falling in love" is a fairly new invention?  

Are you saying that a thousand years ago, two people couldn't meet and fall in love with each other?

Nope. I'm saying it wasn't necessarily that essential aspect of marriages back in the days.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 01:00:28 PM
I think that the silly idea is that God's providence has everything planned for us except our romantic partner.

God doesn't have everything planned for us. He gave us free will and expects us to use it.

He does. Every single second in His desiring will.

God's perfect planning of our lives does not imply a contradiction with our free will.

Quote from: Jason Wisdom
Dear young Christian: don’t waste years confused about God’s plan for you. His plan is that you be conformed to the image of Christ. Go live.

Quote from: Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you,’ declared the Lord, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future”.

Quote from: Genesis 2:18
The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.

As for romantic love in Antiquity:


Quote from: Song of Songs 4
How beautiful you are, my darling!
    Oh, how beautiful!
    Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
    descending from the hills of Gilead.
2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn,
    coming up from the washing.
Each has its twin;
    not one of them is alone.
3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon;
    your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
    are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your neck is like the tower of David,
    built with courses of stone;
on it hang a thousand shields,
    all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your breasts are like two fawns,
    like twin fawns of a gazelle
    that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
    and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
    and to the hill of incense.
7 You are altogether beautiful, my darling;
    there is no flaw in you.
8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride,
    come with me from Lebanon.
Descend from the crest of Amana,
    from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon,
from the lions’ dens
    and the mountain haunts of leopards.
9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride;
    you have stolen my heart
with one glance of your eyes,
    with one jewel of your necklace.
10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride!
    How much more pleasing is your love than wine,
and the fragrance of your perfume
    more than any spice!
11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride;
    milk and honey are under your tongue.
The fragrance of your garments
    is like the fragrance of Lebanon.
12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride;
    you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.
13 Your plants are an orchard of pomegranates
    with choice fruits,
    with henna and nard,
14     nard and saffron,
    calamus and cinnamon,
    with every kind of incense tree,
    with myrrh and aloes
    and all the finest spices.
15 You are a garden fountain,
    a well of flowing water
    streaming down from Lebanon.

And yet, it is this kind of romantic, erotic love that is one of the first references and metaphor for the prayer of the heart:

Quote from: Song of Songs 5
I slept but my heart was awake.

Jesus' said that not one piece of our hair falls without God's knowledge and that the Father will take care of us even better than of the flowers and the birds. How can anyone believe that our wife or husband is not taken care of by God?

I can understand why people should oppose the unrealistic images from romantic movies, but there is today a strange trend in certain Christian circles to oppose that by making husband-wife meeting the only exception in the universe for God's providence. Weird.

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 08, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
You might be reading your own culture into those verses.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 08, 2013, 01:10:14 PM
The Song of Songs is probably a bad example because it's symbolic. The Amatory Poems (https://archive.org/stream/greekanthology01newyuoft#page/130/mode/2up) in the Greek Anthology is a good example of romantic love in Antiquity. Strato of Sardis' Musa Puerilis (https://archive.org/stream/greekanthology04newyuoft#page/288/mode/2up) is a good example of its homosexual variety.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
You might be reading your own culture into those verses.

More likely your prejudices are preventing you from seeing the obvious: being passionate about your wife, even physically, is not a sin as long as you still love God more.

God saw fit that an erotic poem about the passionate love between husband and wife was a good image of His own relation with the Church and that the kind of passionate love a wife has for the husband is a good prefiguration of the prayer of the heart. St. Dyonisos, the Aeropagite, could live with that highlighting that what unites us with God is a kind of passionate love (eros), so can I, and so should everybody.

As with everything, it's the misuse of passionate romantic love that is the problem, not the feeling itself.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Fabio Leite on November 08, 2013, 01:13:26 PM
The Song of Songs is probably a bad example because it's symbolic. The Amatory Poems (https://archive.org/stream/greekanthology01newyuoft#page/130/mode/2up) in the Greek Anthology is a good example of romantic love in Antiquity. Strato of Sardis' Musa Puerilis (https://archive.org/stream/greekanthology04newyuoft#page/288/mode/2up) its homosexual variety.

It's used as a symbol, but, honestly, it takes a lot of effort to not see that it was first and foremost a love song that was later and legitimaly read as a symbol *because* in it romantic love is depicted in its most pure and holy form.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on November 08, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
I am with Alpo.  I don't think our 'soulmates' are out there waiting for us.  I think that by our free will we are allowed to make someone into our 'soulmate', though.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on November 08, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
God's allknowing attribute does not dimish our free will. Same as God knows what is the bes for us, it does not mean that he is going to enforce it to us. He is going to show us this option (meeting our soul mate indirectly as a friend of the friend or soneome you meet what you think to be random. We at the end choose whether to follow up on that. We have friends and family members suggesting to us that this girl or that girl might be good for us. It is not an arranged marriage but a simple suggestion. There is someone out there for us who will accept us for who we are and perhaps even hekp u better ourselves. However I am more inclined to believe that there is more than one person...so i you miss out on this one girl it is not the end of it.
I repeat, the only thing I am not certain if I will be able to distinguish between the right one and the oher whom I have idolized and whose faults I omit to see therefore being the only obne to blame....
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on November 08, 2013, 02:51:11 PM
Dominika, both of us.might need to go to Serbia more often... ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on November 09, 2013, 10:18:34 AM
I don't think our 'soulmates' are out there waiting for us.  I think that by our free will we are allowed to make someone into our 'soulmate', though.

Good said in short words.
Dominika, both of us.might need to go to Serbia more often... ;D

Definitely yes...  ;D Although I prefer fair men, but for sure there are some exceptions... ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on November 12, 2013, 02:11:41 AM
Hah, I have figured it out. We should attend a Coptic young professionals convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx__ehWzHoQ

Eight minutes from the documentary "Out of Egypt" by Andrew Ishak. The documentary is about the culture of Coptic Orthodox Christians living in the United States.

See the end of the clip.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: dzheremi on November 12, 2013, 02:13:36 AM
Eh...I dunno...is finding love and happiness really worth having to go to Davis?  :-\
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on November 12, 2013, 05:10:26 PM
Hah, I have figured it out. We should attend a Coptic young professionals convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx__ehWzHoQ
Needs more trust falls.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on November 17, 2013, 09:53:24 AM
Hah, I have figured it out. We should attend a Coptic young professionals convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx__ehWzHoQ
Needs more trust falls.
Huh?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Anastasia1 on November 17, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
Eh...I dunno...is finding love and happiness really worth having to go to Davis?  :-\
Well, I was not entirely serious, but I did read somewhere that sex has more to do with a person's happiness than money, and some people travel to attend the right college.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 01, 2014, 12:54:50 PM
Here we go!!! How many singles have marriage as their new year resolution, raise your hand?

PS I am drinking a cup of tea without raising my hand :P
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on January 01, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
Here we go!!! How many singles have marriage as their new year resolution, raise your hand?

*sound of crickets chirping*

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 01, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
Haha +1, how about dinosaurs roaring?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on January 01, 2014, 03:52:07 PM
Here we go!!! How many singles have marriage as their new year resolution, raise your hand?

PS I am drinking a cup of tea without raising my hand :P

I'm drinkig a Portugal wine without rasing my hand ;p

For sure not this year. Relationship - it would be very nice if I managed (finally!). But marriage definitely not this year. I'm to young, not enough experienced in relationships to create a good marriage.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 01, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
It´s good that you atleast have your plans straight :D And that you´re drinking some wine from Portugal!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on January 01, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
I'm to young, not enough experienced in relationships to create a good marriage.

I tend to think the same but then again I don't think any experience about pre-marital relationship can guarantee a good marriage. Everything's going to fall apart at some point anyway because we're humans. Not that it has to lead to divorce though but you might end up feeling miserable despite having seemingly stable marriage.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 01, 2014, 04:13:47 PM
I'm to young, not enough experienced in relationships to create a good marriage.

I tend to think the same but then again I don't think any experience about pre-marital relationship can guarantee a good marriage. Everything's going to fall apart at some point anyway because we're humans. Not that it has to lead to divorce though but you might end up feeling miserable despite having seemingly stable marriage.

Agree on this point, pre-marital relationships probably help both parts to understand a difficult situation when they occur, but relationships never cure problems from arising in the first case.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on January 01, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
I'm to young, not enough experienced in relationships to create a good marriage.

I tend to think the same but then again I don't think any experience about pre-marital relationship can guarantee a good marriage. Everything's going to fall apart at some point anyway because we're humans. Not that it has to lead to divorce though but you might end up feeling miserable despite having seemingly stable marriage.

Agree on this point, pre-marital relationships probably help both parts to understand a difficult situation when they occur, but relationships never cure problems from arising in the first case.

I agree with both of you, however, I think the particular relationship has to last some time to be transformed into a good marriage. That's the first thing. The second one, is just a person haven't had any boyfriend/girlfriend, she/he cannot so rapidly get into marriage, such person has to get know, how to functionate being in a relationship.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Shiny on January 01, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
Hey no love for the arranged marriages that work out til death?

Where's JamesR to tell me about them.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 01, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
For some reason I miss out on JamesR posts :D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on January 11, 2014, 02:27:02 AM
I just know that I did not have as much headache when I was single. As for a marriage nope at least for the next couple or so yars...There are few testd that need to be overcome...to see how things work out and how stable the foundatuon is. Without a spiritual foundation, things are more likely to shatter to pieces. I promised myself not to settle for someone who just isn't right just because the right one is not to be seen. I know a romantic...right. As I mentionedin the other topic, there are two girls that stand out among others with whom things are getting qite serious. Shall see how things turn out...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jovan on January 11, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
I wish and pray for the best of love for you brother :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Putnik Namernik on January 12, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
Thanks. I wish you well as well and pray that you find your other half :)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: xOrthodox4Christx on January 12, 2014, 11:08:22 PM
I think it would be nice to find love, but I am a young whipper-snapper that needs to get his own stuff in line before thinking about all that stuff.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: john_mo on April 02, 2014, 07:37:07 AM
Three words: Orthodox youth festivals. 

These are fantastic not just for finding a spouse, but also for meeting other Orthodox friends.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on April 03, 2014, 11:57:11 AM
Three words: Orthodox youth festivals. 

These are fantastic not just for finding a spouse,

Not true in every case. In Poland I feel that I know almost everybody (and for some reasons, I'm also known to quite a lot of Polish Orthodox), and what's more, people a little older than me (even 2 years older - I'll be 23 in October) are married or are in a serious relationship. And I'm rather not interested in men younger than me.

but also for meeting other Orthodox friends.
That's true
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on April 03, 2014, 12:14:01 PM
There are such things as Orthodox youth festivals? Sounds fairly scary. A festival full of Hyperdox Hermans.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on April 03, 2014, 12:59:17 PM
There are such things as Orthodox youth festivals?

You can put into this "box" various meetings and events organised specially for Orthodox youth.
Sounds fairly scary. A festival full of Hyperdox Hermans.

Not really. Hyperdox Hermans do not attend such things, for them they could be too "outrageous". They prefer strict pilgrimages to some monasteries, especially to Athos (for men, to not be tempted)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: john_mo on April 03, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
Three words: Orthodox youth festivals. 

These are fantastic not just for finding a spouse,

Not true in every case. In Poland I feel that I know almost everybody (and for some reasons, I'm also known to quite a lot of Polish Orthodox), and what's more, people a little older than me (even 2 years older - I'll be 23 in October) are married or are in a serious relationship. And I'm rather not interested in men younger than me.

Interesting how the demographics are different in other countries.  From my experience with the OYF (in UK), their are many men and women around 30.  They even changed recommended age limit to 35, which of course isn't really "youth" anymore. 

I have found that even if people don't meet someone at these festivals, they at least get a group of friends who might be able to help them meet someone later.  Many people court each other over a period of years.

There are such things as Orthodox youth festivals?

You can put into this "box" various meetings and events organised specially for Orthodox youth.
Sounds fairly scary. A festival full of Hyperdox Hermans.

Not really. Hyperdox Hermans do not attend such things, for them they could be too "outrageous". They prefer strict pilgrimages to some monasteries, especially to Athos (for men, to not be tempted)

I have seen some Hyperdox Hermans there, but they are indeed rare.  In fact, I had some Hyperdox tendencies when I went to my first festival, and the experience really helped me get out of it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: charbelkaleab on October 28, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
Single...................................................because I'm in only 14 ;D ;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on February 19, 2015, 02:35:21 PM
Single so hard. But hey, there are children in Africa starving. So don't feel bad. lol
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: wgw on February 20, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
So here's my story.  I became engaged to a beautiful German girl who had a 5 year old autistic boy by a previous marriage.  We loved each other.  We never fornicateed her.  I persuaded her to become baptized and she's still a member of the Church, in London.  This is while I lived in the UK.

However, her ex husband was a Muslim.  And when he found out that she had converted to Chrisrianity (she was raised an atheist by her ex communist mother in former East Germany and he had converted her to Islam before divorcing her so he could move on to another sex partner), he was enraged at her apostasy and resolved to stop our marriage.  Which he did by threatening to take full custody of the autistic boy, because a younger brother of my fiancée accidentally burned him while they were on holiday in Germany, and the boy could be induced to repeat whatever you wanted to; his mental state was kind of like a parrot much of the time.  And he hit the boy himself, causing bruises, but had the boy saying ambiguous statements that would suggest my fiancée did it.  He demanded we break up or he'd get exclusive custody.  Meanwhile I had to travel back to the U.S. to take care of my ailing parents.  We fought him in court but I ran out of money and my British lawyer screwed me $10,000 later.  So maybe we'll get married when the boy is grown up, but for now I'm stuck in the US and she's stuck in Britain, as she's in medical school and medical students in the UK can't transfer to an American university without starting over.   But we did have some good times.  Dinner at the Savoy Hotel, her eyes sparkling blue, swimming, exploring the Roman Baths in Barh, which was fascinating.  Oh how I love her.

But I have three options:  wait about ten years by which time she'll be a doctor, and if she hasn't found someone else and I haven't found someone else, we tie the knot.  But we have to move on to some extent.

Option two: become a monk.  This is appealing to me.

Option three: I am horrified by the crucifixion of Syriac children and other atrocities against Christians in Syria.  And I find West Syriac girls extremely attractive.  Also Copric and Antiochian girls.  If I could marry one in a manner arranged by the church in such a way as to get visas for as many family members as possible, in particular, in such a way as to facilitate the evacuation of young children from Syria or Iraq, I would love to do this.  Even if the girl isn't attreactive, I would do it out of love and to prevent harm.  And my German fiancée wasn't my "type"; she became beautiful to me after I fell in love with her but initially at first glance I thought she was kind of frumpy looking.  So beauty is determined by love. If you truly love someone, they'll look more attractive than any Victoria's Secret model, regardless of their age or weight.

But if I pursue this course, I need to explain my willingness to offer myself as a sacrifice to rescue refugees or people from Syria to the church without sounding like I'm looking for apsome kind of ecclesiastical "Russian Bride" kind of deal.  Which I'm not.  I rather am willing to use my unmarried status and forego the pleasures of monastic life, which is my preferred option otherwise, to evacuate someone from the danger zone and as much of their family as can be brought along given US immigration rules, which I understand can include several members.

However in an ideal world, my beloved fiancée and I would be married.  But I don't want her to suffer loneliness for ten years or so on my account.

I am also open to marrying any good Orthodox girl.  I have been too busy with my parents to do the dating scene though, although I think some girls in my parish are open to the idea.  But my parents take priority.

But I'd particularly like to use my unmarried virginal state to rescue some people from Syria, Iraq or Egypt, or even the conflict areas in the Eastern Ukraine and Russia, if that situation deteriorates (I am passionately neutral on that war; I wish it would just go away), or any other Christians in danger of persecution, if the Church could arrange it. 

So that's the sad state of my love life.  I was personally a victim of Islamic persecution against Christians, as was my beloved fiancée.  But she's still a Christian!  Her wicked ex husband may have succeeded in delaying or preventing our marriage to punish her for apostasy, but he can't make her go back to Islam.  And that I got her to be baptized makes me happier than if Id married her, for at least we have a shot at seeing each other in Heaven, not in a sexual way of course, but as brothers and sisters United in Christ Jesus.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on February 20, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
Thank you for confiding your story and thoughts. Lord, have mercy on your servant WGW.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on February 20, 2015, 10:43:26 PM
So she is still in custody of her son? Her ex-husband was only threatening to take custody if you two married? I suppose I'm curious what was being contested in court unless he was already contesting custody of the child. Sorry if I appear to be nitpicking, I'm just curious about legal details.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on February 21, 2015, 01:07:16 AM
An insightful commentary on religion and life...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IXOYE on February 21, 2015, 01:27:57 AM
Lord, have mercy on wgw!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IXOYE on February 21, 2015, 01:38:00 AM
This thread reminds me of an older one with some good advice:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,25732.msg405369.html#msg405369

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: wgw on February 21, 2015, 05:22:05 AM
She and her ex have joint commentary but her ex is well connected and due to the boy being accidentally burned and having a developmental disability, he has all the leverage he needs to maintain the status quo.  So,that's ,y story of being personally persecuted by a Muslim.

What do you think of my idea of marrying someone whose family in Syria or Egypt or Iraq or elsewhere in the danger zone is endangered, so they could all emigrate to the U.S. for the duration of the conflict?  Should I talk to my priest and some priests from the sister jurisdictions about it?  I don't want to sound pervy at all, my first choice would be to wait for my fiancée, perhaps spending the intermediate period as a novice in a monastery and making formal vows if she marries someone.  But I've come across reports that the evil Islamic state is now burning Christian and Yazidi children alive in cages and crucifying them, and selling them into slavery.  And I can't even bear the thought of that.

Some of you know doubt know of my strong feeling of affection and grief for child martyrs like the Holy Innocents, Ss. Agnes, Abanoub, Mina, Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Anastasia, to name a few.  And so if in strategically marrying someone, perhaps whose sister was killed and is looking after her children, or who otherwise is so positioned to through my marriage bring a number of refugee children and adults away to the U.S. where they'll be safe from the Islamic State, I want to do it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: wgw on February 21, 2015, 05:26:53 AM
Thank you all for your love and prayers by the way.  The last few years have been very difficult.  However what has kept me going is the Orthodox Church, which is like an inexhaustible well of wisdom and joy.  Especially my new found love for all things liturgical and comparative liturgics.  I believe the Orthodox have preserved the ancient form of Christian prayer better than anyone else (although the Latin Mass is pretty good too, and I do love Anglican services, in part because of the way Cranmer blended Orthodox aspects like the prayer of the Third Antiphon into Mattins and Evensong).  But Orthodox liturgy when experienced Ina devout parish with a good choir and a devout priest who keeps his mind on things above during the liturgy, is a bridge unto the highest heavens.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on February 21, 2015, 06:13:53 AM
She and her ex have joint commentary but her ex is well connected and due to the boy being accidentally burned and having a developmental disability, he has all the leverage he needs to maintain the status quo.  So,that's ,y story of being personally persecuted by a Muslim.

What do you think of my idea of marrying someone whose family in Syria or Egypt or Iraq or elsewhere in the danger zone is endangered, so they could all emigrate to the U.S. for the duration of the conflict?  Should I talk to my priest and some priests from the sister jurisdictions about it?  I don't want to sound pervy at all, my first choice would be to wait for my fiancée, perhaps spending the intermediate period as a novice in a monastery and making formal vows if she marries someone.  But I've come across reports that the evil Islamic state is now burning Christian and Yazidi children alive in cages and crucifying them, and selling them into slavery.  And I can't even bear the thought of that.

Some of you know doubt know of my strong feeling of affection and grief for child martyrs like the Holy Innocents, Ss. Agnes, Abanoub, Mina, Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Anastasia, to name a few.  And so if in strategically marrying someone, perhaps whose sister was killed and is looking after her children, or who otherwise is so positioned to through my marriage bring a number of refugee children and adults away to the U.S. where they'll be safe from the Islamic State, I want to do it.

What do I think? From most of your posts, you likely need to slow down a lot.

Regarding, the monastic marriage thing to save people you think are deserving, it doesn't work that way in the US at least.

You are a US citizen? Consult with an attorney, let her know your designs and they will be able to give you a realistic overview of the success rate of what you are planning.

It sounds like you've been through the ringer and want to go through it again.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 21, 2015, 06:51:08 AM
Well after long nights of contemplating, talks with my therapist, and prayer, I've already decided that I have no intention on ever being married or in a long term relationship. It simply isn't worth it to me, and while society may perceive it as abnormal, I believe that I as James will derive much more joy and fulfillment from life as a single man than a married one. I'm glad to have come to peace with this fact. I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on February 21, 2015, 08:16:55 AM
Well after long nights of contemplating, talks with my therapist, and prayer, I've already decided that I have no intention on ever being married or in a long term relationship. It simply isn't worth it to me, and while society may perceive it as abnormal, I believe that I as James will derive much more joy and fulfillment from life as a single man than a married one. I'm glad to have come to peace with this fact. I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.

Don't become a priest due to intrigue.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Volnutt on February 21, 2015, 09:33:53 AM
She and her ex have joint commentary but her ex is well connected and due to the boy being accidentally burned and having a developmental disability, he has all the leverage he needs to maintain the status quo.  So,that's ,y story of being personally persecuted by a Muslim.

What do you think of my idea of marrying someone whose family in Syria or Egypt or Iraq or elsewhere in the danger zone is endangered, so they could all emigrate to the U.S. for the duration of the conflict?  Should I talk to my priest and some priests from the sister jurisdictions about it?  I don't want to sound pervy at all, my first choice would be to wait for my fiancée, perhaps spending the intermediate period as a novice in a monastery and making formal vows if she marries someone.  But I've come across reports that the evil Islamic state is now burning Christian and Yazidi children alive in cages and crucifying them, and selling them into slavery.  And I can't even bear the thought of that.

Some of you know doubt know of my strong feeling of affection and grief for child martyrs like the Holy Innocents, Ss. Agnes, Abanoub, Mina, Tsarevich Alexei and Grand Duchess Anastasia, to name a few.  And so if in strategically marrying someone, perhaps whose sister was killed and is looking after her children, or who otherwise is so positioned to through my marriage bring a number of refugee children and adults away to the U.S. where they'll be safe from the Islamic State, I want to do it.

You're a good man, I wish I had some advice to give. I'll be praying for you.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on February 21, 2015, 12:49:32 PM
Well after long nights of contemplating, talks with my therapist, and prayer, I've already decided that I have no intention on ever being married or in a long term relationship. It simply isn't worth it to me, and while society may perceive it as abnormal, I believe that I as James will derive much more joy and fulfillment from life as a single man than a married one. I'm glad to have come to peace with this fact. I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.

Your therapist works the night shift?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on February 21, 2015, 01:39:34 PM
Well after long nights of contemplating, talks with my therapist, and prayer, I've already decided that I have no intention on ever being married or in a long term relationship. It simply isn't worth it to me, and while society may perceive it as abnormal, I believe that I as James will derive much more joy and fulfillment from life as a single man than a married one. I'm glad to have come to peace with this fact. I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.

Your therapist works the night shift?

comma
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alxandra on February 21, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
hmm..forgive me but I feel like this thread needs this quote as well

“How beautiful, then, the marriage of two Christians, two who are one in hope, one in desire, one in the way of life they follow, one in the religion they practice. They are as brother and sister, both servants of the same Master. Nothing divides them, either in flesh or in spirit. They are, in very truth, two in one flesh; and where there is but one flesh there is also but one spirit. They pray together, they worship together, they fast together; instructing one another, encouraging one another, strengthening one another. Side by side they visit God's church and partake of God's Banquet; side by side they face difficulties and persecution, share their consolations. They have no secrets from one another; they never shun each other's company; they never bring sorrow to each other's hearts. Unembarrassed they visit the sick and assist the needy. They give alms without anxiety; they attend the Sacrifice without difficulty; they perform their daily exercises of piety without hindrance. They need not be furtive about making the Sign of the Cross, nor timorous in greeting the brethren, nor silent in asking a blessing of God. Psalms and hymns they sing to one another, striving to see which one of them will chant more beautifully the praises of their Lord. Hearing and seeing this, Christ rejoices. To such as these He gives His peace. Where there [p36] are two together, there also He is present; and where He is, there evil is not.”

and these..

“Perhaps the most distinguished quality in love is sacrifice. This is the big difference between love and lust: love always seek to give and lust always seek to take."


“Do not think that love in order to be genuine has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired. Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength is"

:)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on February 21, 2015, 02:36:58 PM
I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.

What is it about priesthood that attracts you?  What is it about monasticism that makes you sure it's not for you? 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 21, 2015, 04:53:09 PM
I doubt I'll ever become a monk though. Monastery life isn't for me, I know that for sure. The thought of being a single priest however is intriguing to me, but I'm not banking on anything yet.

What is it about priesthood that attracts you?  What is it about monasticism that makes you sure it's not for you?

Being able to perform services, helping others, and continually learning is what attracts me to priesthood. Having to abandon everything associated with the world, even helping the poor, in order to be a good monk is something that alienates me from that lifestyle. I simply can't detach myself because it makes me feel selfish. And I don't think I can handle sharing a confided area with a bunch of other monks when I like my space and solitude.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on February 21, 2015, 06:34:51 PM
"Space" and "solitude" hardly inhere in the priesthood (certainly not in America where the priest seems to have to combine the traditional role with the role of pastor a la Protestantism). In other words, priests are constantly with other people and at other people's beck and call.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on February 21, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
hmm..forgive me but I feel like this thread needs this quote as well

“How beautiful, then, the marriage of two Christians, two who are one in hope, one in desire, one in the way of life they follow, one in the religion they practice. They are as brother and sister, both servants of the same Master. Nothing divides them, either in flesh or in spirit. They are, in very truth, two in one flesh; and where there is but one flesh there is also but one spirit. They pray together, they worship together, they fast together; instructing one another, encouraging one another, strengthening one another. Side by side they visit God's church and partake of God's Banquet; side by side they face difficulties and persecution, share their consolations. They have no secrets from one another; they never shun each other's company; they never bring sorrow to each other's hearts. Unembarrassed they visit the sick and assist the needy. They give alms without anxiety; they attend the Sacrifice without difficulty; they perform their daily exercises of piety without hindrance. They need not be furtive about making the Sign of the Cross, nor timorous in greeting the brethren, nor silent in asking a blessing of God. Psalms and hymns they sing to one another, striving to see which one of them will chant more beautifully the praises of their Lord. Hearing and seeing this, Christ rejoices. To such as these He gives His peace. Where there [p36] are two together, there also He is present; and where He is, there evil is not.”

and these..

“Perhaps the most distinguished quality in love is sacrifice. This is the big difference between love and lust: love always seek to give and lust always seek to take."


“Do not think that love in order to be genuine has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired. Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength is"

:)

Thank you for these quotes, Alxandra.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: wgw on February 21, 2015, 07:17:29 PM
hmm..forgive me but I feel like this thread needs this quote as well

“How beautiful, then, the marriage of two Christians, two who are one in hope, one in desire, one in the way of life they follow, one in the religion they practice. They are as brother and sister, both servants of the same Master. Nothing divides them, either in flesh or in spirit. They are, in very truth, two in one flesh; and where there is but one flesh there is also but one spirit. They pray together, they worship together, they fast together; instructing one another, encouraging one another, strengthening one another. Side by side they visit God's church and partake of God's Banquet; side by side they face difficulties and persecution, share their consolations. They have no secrets from one another; they never shun each other's company; they never bring sorrow to each other's hearts. Unembarrassed they visit the sick and assist the needy. They give alms without anxiety; they attend the Sacrifice without difficulty; they perform their daily exercises of piety without hindrance. They need not be furtive about making the Sign of the Cross, nor timorous in greeting the brethren, nor silent in asking a blessing of God. Psalms and hymns they sing to one another, striving to see which one of them will chant more beautifully the praises of their Lord. Hearing and seeing this, Christ rejoices. To such as these He gives His peace. Where there [p36] are two together, there also He is present; and where He is, there evil is not.”

and these..

“Perhaps the most distinguished quality in love is sacrifice. This is the big difference between love and lust: love always seek to give and lust always seek to take."


“Do not think that love in order to be genuine has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired. Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength is"

:)

That is profound, as is the distinction drawn between genuine love, which as I learned involves sacrifice in an extreme way, and carnal lust.  Orthodox theology describes a training of the passions, their purification so as to serve God (except for those that are entirely destructive), and Christian matrimony represents the ideal of the physical Union demanded by list tempered, perfected and made holy through an emotional and above all a spiritual Union, in the sight of God, so that the passion of lust dissolves and is subsumed by the altruistic ideal of matrimony.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesR on February 21, 2015, 08:12:08 PM
"Space" and "solitude" hardly inhere in the priesthood (certainly not in America where the priest seems to have to combine the traditional role with the role of pastor a la Protestantism). In other words, priests are constantly with other people and at other people's beck and call.

That doesn't bother me since at least I can still have my own little apartment and since I'd be helping people opposed to having to live at a monastery with others and having to detach myself from the concerns of the world. I wish the Orthodox Church had more single priests like the Catholics and more resources available on such a life.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on February 21, 2015, 08:29:55 PM
Instead of accommodating our particular disease, we need to confront and heal it. I can say this, altho I'm in similar straits to I imagine yours -- that is, I find the medicine as much suffering as the disease, and do not feel hopeful about the cure.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: wgw on February 21, 2015, 09:35:08 PM
JamesR,

At some of the monasteries I've visited, some of the monks become hermits and don't interact much with the other monks.  Other monks have "families" of pilgrims who come and visit them over the weekend several times a year, so every weekend at this one Coptic monastery, St. Anthonys, you'll find Coptic monks in the pilgrims cafeteria (the rectory is off limits for pilgrims) surrounded by their spiritual children, with the little ones on their lap who call them uncle, instead of Abuna.  Pane these monks are helping people out every weekend with problems and retreating into solitude.

The OCA convent near my house strikes me as similiar but the nuns are a bit more remote, but there are families with children that come and visit them monthly.   And they have communion at a different Orthodox Church each Sunday, and are a huge help when it comes to the choirs, some of which in the La area vary a bit in quality.

So each monastery is distinct, and I think you're making a lot of assumptions about the level of interactions with the world that monks have and with themselves.  At many monasteries the monks don't talk much with each other at all, seeking to avoid idle chatter and focus on prayer.  Their relationship with you is certainly not even close to as intimate as a wife (or even your parents, except perhaps your father of confession); they're more likely to be like fellow tenants at an apartment building at many monasteries.  But there are monasteries and monasteries, and while in the Roman church the different religious orders make it clear what you're going to get (Franciscan and Dominican Friars...like a hieromonk in the world but with highly intimate interaction with your peers), Trappists, near absolute silence, use of silence but a lack of privacy, Carmelites, a hermitage, no contact with the world, and so on), Orthodox monasticism is more flexible.  Different monasteries and sketes have different focuses.  Elder Sophrony for example set up a famous monastery in Britain where the Hours are replaced by collective saying of the Jesus Prayer.  So there is actually huge variation in Orthodox monastic praxis even within the same jurisdiction, even on Mount Athos.

One other thing to consider is that some jurisdictions from the conversations I have don't like to ordain unmarried priests; all their priests are either married or hieromonks.  Now this is probably not universally true.  But you can't get married once you're a priest.

Now I think you may well have a vocation to the priesthood or to a monastic life; a lot of what you're describing reminds me of the work of some monks.  And remember experienced hieromonks are often sent (sometimes to their dismay) out into world to serve as the priests of small parishes that can't afford a married priest.  And these guys often become Archimandrites and eventually Bishops.  But if you become a monk, you can't count on that happening.

But one thing seems clear to me:: in the short time Ive been on this forum, I've seem you struggling with the faith in a number of threads.  I think you should go to a monastery, not in order to examine the monastic lifestyle, but to get some input from a starets or elder, a senior monk who can help you stabilize your faith, overcome your doubts, and discern your vocation, so that you may live a blessed and fulfilling life according to the will of God, through our Lord Jesus Christ and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, through the intercession of the Theotokos.

Are you by any chance in California?  Because I'm about to go on an extended pilgrimage to several monasteries in the state with my mother to help us recover from the spiritual trauma we've asked for prayers on, and I would be happy to take you alomg as our guest.  We are blessed with a nice car, a 2007 Dodge Charger, which is also fun to drive and seats four passengers in comfort.  So if you have a drivers license you could join in the driving.  My mother is 65 and I'm 29.  You would need to pay for your own food and get your own room in the monasteries. 

By the way, the offer to join us is also open to anyone else, were setting out for the first leg on the 26th, coming home on the 5th.  Our pilgrimmages will not be a continuous trip but will be in segments punctuated by rest at our residence in the LA suburbs.  No serial killers please however.  :)

I'd particularly like a married or older woman to join us to stay with my mother in the outer guest houses at some of the monasteries so I can get a bit closer to the monks; in like manner at the Orthodox convents I'll be in the dog house, err, retreat center, while my mother is in there with the nuns. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: DeniseDenise on February 21, 2015, 09:48:42 PM
This is a case of 'the grass is always greener' syndrome.

James, who has issues with his family, wants a life as different as possible from the family that overwhelms him.

And while some of the choices might be a good fit for you, you also need to consider that wherever you go, there you are.
Trying to outrun the issues and trauma by just being as different from them as possible, usually isn't a healing process.

You need to quit making sweeping statements at 20, and instead work on healing .


Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alxandra on February 21, 2015, 10:26:38 PM
hmm..forgive me but I feel like this thread needs this quote as well

“How beautiful, then, the marriage of two Christians, two who are one in hope, one in desire, one in the way of life they follow, one in the religion they practice. They are as brother and sister, both servants of the same Master. Nothing divides them, either in flesh or in spirit. They are, in very truth, two in one flesh; and where there is but one flesh there is also but one spirit. They pray together, they worship together, they fast together; instructing one another, encouraging one another, strengthening one another. Side by side they visit God's church and partake of God's Banquet; side by side they face difficulties and persecution, share their consolations. They have no secrets from one another; they never shun each other's company; they never bring sorrow to each other's hearts. Unembarrassed they visit the sick and assist the needy. They give alms without anxiety; they attend the Sacrifice without difficulty; they perform their daily exercises of piety without hindrance. They need not be furtive about making the Sign of the Cross, nor timorous in greeting the brethren, nor silent in asking a blessing of God. Psalms and hymns they sing to one another, striving to see which one of them will chant more beautifully the praises of their Lord. Hearing and seeing this, Christ rejoices. To such as these He gives His peace. Where there [p36] are two together, there also He is present; and where He is, there evil is not.”

and these..

“Perhaps the most distinguished quality in love is sacrifice. This is the big difference between love and lust: love always seek to give and lust always seek to take."


“Do not think that love in order to be genuine has to be extraordinary. What we need is to love without getting tired. Be faithful in small things because it is in them that your strength is"

:)

That is profound, as is the distinction drawn between genuine love, which as I learned involves sacrifice in an extreme way, and carnal lust.  Orthodox theology describes a training of the passions, their purification so as to serve God (except for those that are entirely destructive), and Christian matrimony represents the ideal of the physical Union demanded by list tempered, perfected and made holy through an emotional and above all a spiritual Union, in the sight of God, so that the passion of lust dissolves and is subsumed by the altruistic ideal of matrimony.

Very true
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on February 22, 2015, 12:28:49 AM
This is a case of 'the grass is always greener' syndrome.

James, who has issues with his family, wants a life as different as possible from the family that overwhelms him.

And while some of the choices might be a good fit for you, you also need to consider that wherever you go, there you are.
Trying to outrun the issues and trauma by just being as different from them as possible, usually isn't a healing process.

You need to quit making sweeping statements at 20, and instead work on healing .

When can you make sweeping statements?

Dollars to donuts when James hits your age, he'll be far better off.

Trauma is never "healed" fwiw. Trauma is the ground for health.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: DeniseDenise on February 22, 2015, 12:31:23 AM
This is a case of 'the grass is always greener' syndrome.

James, who has issues with his family, wants a life as different as possible from the family that overwhelms him.

And while some of the choices might be a good fit for you, you also need to consider that wherever you go, there you are.
Trying to outrun the issues and trauma by just being as different from them as possible, usually isn't a healing process.

You need to quit making sweeping statements at 20, and instead work on healing .

When can you make sweeping statements?

Dollars to donuts when James hits your age, he'll be far better off.

Trauma is never "healed" fwiw. Trauma is the ground for health.


You might want to look at what tense i used.  'healing' does not equal healed, nor did i say it did.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: lovesupreme on March 23, 2015, 01:07:34 AM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

BTW, I have no personal qualms with dating an older woman, but I think the insular nature of churches would really exacerbate that particular social stigma.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 23, 2015, 04:19:05 AM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

BTW, I have no personal qualms with dating an older woman, but I think the insular nature of churches would really exacerbate that particular social stigma.

I think so. I seem to be one of two unmarried adults in the parish, and the other person is half my age.

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on March 23, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on March 23, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)

Giving up on Rachel didn't take long.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IXOYE on March 23, 2015, 06:29:35 PM
I think so. I seem to be one of two unmarried adults in the parish, and the other person is half my age.

The advice I have read for people in parishes with few single parishioners is to visit other parishes if possible.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on March 23, 2015, 11:51:33 PM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)

Giving up on Rachel didn't take long.

Can you substantiate that claim with evidence and the results of solid journalistic investigation
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on March 24, 2015, 08:35:17 AM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)

Giving up on Rachel didn't take long.

Can you substantiate that claim with evidence and the results of solid journalistic investigation?

You're not on trial, Mor.  What is your intent to be a part of an unknown community filled with single ladies?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on March 24, 2015, 09:35:18 AM
I think so. I seem to be one of two unmarried adults in the parish, and the other person is half my age.

The advice I have read for people in parishes with few single parishioners is to visit other parishes if possible.

I have had that advice as well.  It is not always an option, but probably the best advice available.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IXOYE on March 24, 2015, 10:01:08 AM
I think so. I seem to be one of two unmarried adults in the parish, and the other person is half my age.

The advice I have read for people in parishes with few single parishioners is to visit other parishes if possible.

I have had that advice as well.  It is not always an option, but probably the best advice available.

I try to put that into practice myself.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on March 24, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)

Giving up on Rachel didn't take long.

Can you substantiate that claim with evidence and the results of solid journalistic investigation?

You're not on trial, Mor.  What is your intent to be a part of an unknown community filled with single ladies?

Good conversation.  Like reading Playboy for the articles. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 24, 2015, 07:08:03 PM
Hi all,
I'm 26. I was just curious if there are any other Orthodox singles, in their 20s, on here? I thought I would open the floor for anyone who wants to air their thoughts and/or woes on this "blessed time of singleness."  :)

~Seraphim

He is 31 now. xD He probable gave in being alone. :D

I am 21 and single and i love it. I don't have to take bath everyday, and burn in hell because of pre-marriage sex.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 07:12:57 PM
You. Don't. Bathe?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 24, 2015, 07:14:05 PM
You. Don't. Bathe?

Hey, i live in poor Orthodox third world country, we bath in rivers, when they are warm at summer.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 07:16:07 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on March 24, 2015, 07:32:01 PM
I am 21 and single and i love it. I don't have to take bath everyday, and burn in hell because of pre-marriage sex.

No worries, you'll grow up too.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 24, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
I am 21 and single and i love it. I don't have to take bath everyday, and burn in hell because of pre-marriage sex.

No worries, you'll grow up too.

I am 6'5 tall.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 24, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

BTW, I have no personal qualms with dating an older woman, but I think the insular nature of churches would really exacerbate that particular social stigma.

Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
Charming.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 24, 2015, 08:24:22 PM
Charming.

Truth rarely is.

It's especially common among female converts to Islam in the US and GB. The races are different, class is different, but the height to weight ratio is the same.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 08:26:17 PM
Not going to dignify that further.

Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 24, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
Not going to dignify that further.

It's true. I think a role call of oc.net demos would bear this out. The photo thread at least suggests so.

To the OP, nearly all the single people I've known in OCA parishes over 30 were me and a few women as I described above. That is if we don't consider the widows.

A Priest once gave me a warning once he realized I wasn't gay, becafeful around married women. If you are an active single man in a parish you will be around a lot of married women who are all in but name single, especially the more ethnic the parish is.

My Priest gave me a heads up as he realized me not being gay and being rather easy going with women that such a combo had been for otherss a recipe for trouble.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on March 24, 2015, 08:40:13 PM
There are a lot of single women in their late 30s and 40s at my church, only a couple my age (20s). Is that common in other communities?

I don't know, but I would like to make that my community.   ;)

Giving up on Rachel didn't take long.

Can you substantiate that claim with evidence and the results of solid journalistic investigation?

You're not on trial, Mor.  What is your intent to be a part of an unknown community filled with single ladies?

Good conversation.  Like reading Playboy for the articles.

We all know how that ends.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
I think so. I seem to be one of two unmarried adults in the parish, and the other person is half my age.

The advice I have read for people in parishes with few single parishioners is to visit other parishes if possible.

I have considered moving to another state.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 24, 2015, 09:08:39 PM
Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.

This makes no sense in reality or fantasy. Even if we were all locked in cells here, since members of religions and American citizens are almost identical sets, it would be too easy to see your study is impossible nonsense.

Why can't you just get out to some churches and look around and get to know the many, many beautiful young people and people of all ages? That shouldn't frighten you as much as it apparently does.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on March 24, 2015, 09:19:10 PM
I was told shortly after I entered the church that I would probably never marry, since Greeks don't like to marry outside their group, Orthodox or not. Does this match anyone else's experience>

Also, there is a sizable proportion of Americans who report they are not affiliated with any religion, so I certainly wouldn't say all citizens are members of religions.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 24, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
Odd. I thought the problem with Greeks and marriage, as it's usually served up around here, is that they don't want to marry inside their group.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on March 24, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
Odd. I thought the problem with Greeks and marriage, as it's usually served up around here, is that they don't want to marry inside their group.

Oh dear. I guess I knew the wrong sort of Greeks. Though actually they weren't nearly as ethnically chauvinist as was made out...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 24, 2015, 09:33:43 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong. Greek chap once told me that when he was a boy his islanders wouldn't marry Greeks from the next island, because they were varvari.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: IXOYE on March 24, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
I was told shortly after I entered the church that I would probably never marry, since Greeks don't like to marry outside their group, Orthodox or not. Does this match anyone else's experience>

There are others that convert like you did to your Greek jurisdiction that are not Greek.  I'm sure some are single and looking for a spouse.

I see in some local Churches some Greeks are married to non-Greeks. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: xOrthodox4Christx on March 24, 2015, 09:41:18 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong. Greek chap once told me that when he was a boy his islanders wouldn't marry Greeks from the next island, because they were varvari.

lol Everyone is considered varvari in Greece.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on March 24, 2015, 09:57:34 PM
It wasn't just about being Greek or not, but that you had all these families with complicated blood and marital relationships going back generations and an outsider basically couldn't get a foot in the door. He didn't quite say marriages were arranged but it sort of sounded like it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 24, 2015, 10:20:05 PM
Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.

This makes no sense in reality or fantasy. Even if we were all locked in cells here, since members of religions and American citizens are almost identical sets, it would be too easy to see your study is impossible nonsense.

Why can't you just get out to some churches and look around and get to know the many, many beautiful young people and people of all ages? That shouldn't frighten you as much as it apparently does.

What are you going about? I am not the house bound one here. I work. Go out. And have attended more than few dozen odox parishes at this point.

Let's do a role call here amoung the single women over 30. We'll extrapolate from there. But what's wrong with what I said? Do you have a problem with overweight women?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 24, 2015, 10:23:30 PM
I was told shortly after I entered the church that I would probably never marry, since Greeks don't like to marry outside their group, Orthodox or not. Does this match anyone else's experience>

Also, there is a sizable proportion of Americans who report they are not affiliated with any religion, so I certainly wouldn't say all citizens are members of religions.

All the "Greek" odox girls I've known married outside the Church in spirit if not in rubric. Their finances got dunked at whatever Protestant church would do it, the girl's father makes the donation, the fiancé promises he will not stop the kids from going to Church. A lot like the RCs I knew, except the husband had to at least attend some counseling and classes with the Priest or adult formation leader.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 24, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
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Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 24, 2015, 11:23:02 PM
Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.

This makes no sense in reality or fantasy. Even if we were all locked in cells here, since members of religions and American citizens are almost identical sets, it would be too easy to see your study is impossible nonsense.

Why can't you just get out to some churches and look around and get to know the many, many beautiful young people and people of all ages? That shouldn't frighten you as much as it apparently does.

What are you going about? I am not the house bound one here. I work. Go out. And have attended more than few dozen odox parishes at this point.

Let's do a role call here amoung the single women over 30. We'll extrapolate from there. But what's wrong with what I said? Do you have a problem with overweight women?

You need to know when to let it go, Norman. Then again, if you had that balance, you wouldn't be flaming a religious family subforum in the first place.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 24, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
It wasn't just about being Greek or not, but that you had all these families with complicated blood and marital relationships going back generations and an outsider basically couldn't get a foot in the door. He didn't quite say marriages were arranged but it sort of sounded like it.

That makes me kind of envious of your experience, and kind of relieved to have avoided it. But, believe me, I know what that can be like. Only one of eight of us in my family was able to find an Amish-Mennonite spouse. It's not something done on purpose -- it's just the way the cookie can crumble in ultra-traditional cultures.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on March 25, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
I've been posting OC.net for years and I'm still single. I want my money back.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 25, 2015, 05:30:22 PM
Demographically among most religions in the US, yes, from something I read. Usually the women also have a high BMI. They seek religious institutions to attempt to find a man who will deal with their baggage.

IOW, most 20 year old women don't need God's help to get a date. The other side of 30 with a similar BMI? It can't hurt.

This makes no sense in reality or fantasy. Even if we were all locked in cells here, since members of religions and American citizens are almost identical sets, it would be too easy to see your study is impossible nonsense.

Why can't you just get out to some churches and look around and get to know the many, many beautiful young people and people of all ages? That shouldn't frighten you as much as it apparently does.

What are you going about? I am not the house bound one here. I work. Go out. And have attended more than few dozen odox parishes at this point.

Let's do a role call here amoung the single women over 30. We'll extrapolate from there. But what's wrong with what I said? Do you have a problem with overweight women?

You need to know when to let it go, Norman. Then again, if you had that balance, you wouldn't be flaming a religious family subforum in the first place.

Nah, I am good with not allowing people to raise their pathologies to spiritual virtues.

If someone is single, is little to nothing to do with being odox. EOD.

I am not sure what balance is, but I do make it to work and other civic obligations most adults engage in, but I guess we shouldn't use that bar to remove people from discussion here as it would hurt the post count.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on March 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Is not OC.net a civic obligation?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 25, 2015, 05:44:00 PM
Is not OC.net a civic obligation?

I stand corrected. My apologies to all those realizing that odoxy is cause of their many pains.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 06:20:20 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 06:31:46 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 06:37:31 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's burned grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Theophania on March 25, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Are... are you reading my journal?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on March 25, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's burned grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

I would be a lot happier with my life if I lived in the America you describe. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 06:42:42 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)

Eastern European women are one of biggest prostitutes in the world. You can have them very easy. That happens to barbaric nations, when socialism falls, because of unemployment, corruption and no ideology left, women become prostitutes and gold diggers, and men become drunktards who suck parent's pensions. Hilarious People. You must come, i can prove it to you, then we go see some ancient monasteries and fortresses. xD And everyone hates priests here, lol, because they are only rich People together with oligarchs. And if someone goes mad, we just lock them in old commie scary crumbling buildings with sadists to take care of them. Hilarious society. xD
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on March 25, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
You keep using that word, 'hilarious'. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 06:54:37 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 07:01:34 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on March 25, 2015, 07:03:12 PM
Lol so much problems for converts in USA/west to find Orthodox partner. In my country, everyone is Orthodox, but also no one really cares about God or His Church, so it is same. xD People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

And what do you think we do here, eat ambrosia?

You drive expensive cars with a lot of prostitutes waving from windows, walk around swimming pools and beaches in underwear, you reply with "cool" to every question, you shoot ducks on the way home, and at the end of night, you have a lot of sex, but not the Eastern European sex we have here, the one behind the public WC or one in the steppe's grass, no, you guys have it in the swimming pools, while the hot wind waves palms that cover your clear view on bright stars. Ah... America.

Good to see you have a sense of your silliness. Eastern Europe has endured much hardship, but this does not make her people less than those that imagine they have free reign to pursue the passions; perhaps quite the contrary. (And in fact it should be said clearly that the marketing is not true: the average Western is not wealthy but probably envious or otherwise suffering in soul or even in body.)

Eastern European women are one of biggest prostitutes in the world. You can have them very easy. That happens to barbaric nations, when socialism falls, because of unemployment, corruption and no ideology left, women become prostitutes and gold diggers, and men become drunktards who suck parent's pensions. Hilarious People. You must come, i can prove it to you, then we go see some ancient monasteries and fortresses. xD And everyone hates priests here, lol, because they are only rich People together with oligarchs. And if someone goes mad, we just lock them in old commie scary crumbling buildings with sadists to take care of them. Hilarious society. xD

Gesu, Maria, Giuseppe.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Minnesotan on March 25, 2015, 07:16:09 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 07:17:21 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: orthonorm on March 25, 2015, 07:20:59 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

I think the divorce rate for anyone on a life journey has to be astronomically high.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 07:23:27 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 07:38:54 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...

As a Swiss citizen, you should have other options.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 25, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Miserable, more like it; and you have a duty to work to lessen the suffering of your people.

No, after i graduate, i move to Switzerland, i am allowed to have their citizenship. :D I will be skiing and have walks down Alps and lakes all day long. We all flee, those who cant flee are losers.

Why are you going to school in Serbia?

Because i live in Serbia, because education in Serbia is paid by the government if you are good enough, and even if you fail under the red line for government funding, you pay it only 1000 dollars per year, and because there is no Serbian Orthodox Seminary outside Serbia, there is one in Bosnia and one in Chicago, but i am too poor to fly there, and it is really small...

As a Swiss citizen, you should have other options.

I was born in Switzerland, then moved to Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro) to help president Milosevic fight imperialism, then some CIA revolution showed up and we sent him to Hag, we were like - WHAT A HELL JUST HAPPENED, now i am stuck in banana country LOL., But i plan to use those options and leave these eastern European scum behind me. xD
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on March 25, 2015, 07:52:33 PM
Uh huh.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on March 25, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on March 26, 2015, 04:42:15 AM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

(http://www2.luventicus.org/mapas/montenegro/rozaie.gif)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: vamrat on March 26, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

(http://www2.luventicus.org/mapas/montenegro/rozaie.gif)

Thanks for the info!  I don't mind an older, mature woman.  Say, 22 or 23, if it gets me a decent discount.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Greg on April 08, 2015, 11:08:52 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\

...I doubt there's actually a difference in stability, and it all completely depends on the people involved, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has seen these types of marriages and how they go anyways.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on April 08, 2015, 11:50:55 PM
My marriage was convert/convert (I converted about a year before we got married, and she converted about a year and a half before); after about 6 1/2 years the marriage ended; neither of us were practicing Orthodox Christians when it ended. However, I think being converts had little to do with any instabilities. The instability and problems were caused by our--though mostly my--character flaws, and it was these personality things and bad habits and other problems that had a negative effect on the religious element, not the other way around.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Czar Lazar on April 16, 2015, 09:19:26 PM
People here, few of them, become religious, when they turn 60 and they realize, there is nothing more they can look for in their earthly lives which they have spent in third world country eating corn, and going here and theret, all day long in favela where they live. Hilarious.

Considering the large amount of young people entering the monasteries, I would say that is not entirely true.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Czar Lazar on April 16, 2015, 11:22:45 PM
In fact in the last 20 years there has been probably three fold the number of new monks and nuns, just in Serbia.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Czar Lazar on April 16, 2015, 11:24:23 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

(http://www2.luventicus.org/mapas/montenegro/rozaie.gif)

Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mountain on April 20, 2015, 05:31:32 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

(http://www2.luventicus.org/mapas/montenegro/rozaie.gif)

Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.

I must protest. All Serbian men who married Albanian women are very happy with them (Mostly happens in South Serbia and Montenegro areas). Serbian women are not wife material.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on April 20, 2015, 05:41:42 PM
I sometimes wonder if convert/convert marriages or convert/cradle ones are more stable. I think the former might benefit from the fact that both partners have gone on the same life journey (especially if they were converting at around the same time, and were there to help each other through it). I could imagine two people being received into the Church and then getting married shortly thereafter. I think it'd be powerful.

On the other hand, marrying someone who had grown up Orthodox might have its own advantages, too, since they'd be able to provide more guidance, rather than the two of you flying blind together  :-\



If you want stable marriage, you go to East mountains of Montenegro, meet with Albanian tribe leader, give them 5000 euros, they give you their young daughter, she cooks and cleans, and she loves you so much because she finally lives in a house with electricity. She will convert to any faith you want, and you don't have to see your father and mother in law ever again, best part of it. Just don't let her hang out too much with American women, they can spoil her, but also keep her unemployed, so she must listen to you, because she is broke. I have mastered blackmails to survive in marriage. Something my dad taught me. :D

Serbian men from villages really do this, because they cant find Serbian women, they are too busy trying to live in cities. xD

5000 Euros is a bit steep.  To which Montenegrin mountains could I go for 3000 USD or so?  I don't want to spend more on a wife than on a used car or a Mauser C96 in decent condition.

Well, if you are from USA, you must first take a long flight to Belgrade, and then take a very long and slow ride by a train or by bus through mountains and canyons and then reach town Rožaje, speak with locals, they will direct you where to go. You must not be cheap to get a good, obeying wife. Who knows, it might be even 3000 USD, probably a bit older one would cost that much. Then return to Belgrade or Podgorica with her, guarantee for her visa and return home. xD

(http://www2.luventicus.org/mapas/montenegro/rozaie.gif)

Paying a large sum of money to a man to get a woman, sounds like prostitution; this is far from Orthodoxy and should be frowned upon.

I must protest. All Serbian men who married Albanian women are very happy with them (Mostly happens in South Serbia and Montenegro areas). Serbian women are not wife material.
???
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on April 20, 2015, 05:43:00 PM
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on April 20, 2015, 05:43:34 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on April 20, 2015, 05:49:49 PM
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.
Good point :D


Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.
And it's a good point too ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on April 20, 2015, 05:53:13 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mountain on April 20, 2015, 06:01:45 PM
What he means is that Serbian women are so pious, they've all become nuns. Only Albanian women are available.

Sarcasm... Not true of course, there are still monasteries in Serbia who are completely empty, and there are many monasteries who have only 1-3 monks or nuns. If we compare it to pre-communist era, some monasteries had hundreds of monks or nuns. The revival of the faith is much stronger in Russia than in Serbia, (Bosnia, Montenegro)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on April 20, 2015, 06:02:44 PM
Isn't this where someone says *whoosh*?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mountain on April 20, 2015, 06:03:16 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on April 20, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mountain on April 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.

Well, they are not much better either, but i am interested in women, not men.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on April 20, 2015, 06:11:35 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

I've never been a husband, so i don't know, but i know what are People talking here. And i've seen things.

If only husbands could be counted on to know what is husband material.

Well, they are not much better either, but i am interested in women, not men.

Birds of a feather. A fortunate side effect of people choosing their own spouses.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on April 20, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on April 20, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.

Nicholas is just expressing his discomfort at encountering a post from another male that is not lecherous or churlish.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on April 20, 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Believe me, Dominika, a man who says such things is not husband material.

Nor is a man who Jimmy Stewart's all over a man who says such things.

I looked that use of "Jimmy Stewart" up in Urban Dictionary to no avail.

Nicholas is just expressing his discomfort at encountering a post from another male that is not lecherous or churlish.

Yeah I can see how that might irritate. Pompous and sanctimonious is obviously the way to go.  ::)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on April 20, 2015, 06:54:12 PM
Well I wouldn't characterize his response as that.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Jonathan Gress on April 20, 2015, 06:58:09 PM
Well I wouldn't characterize his response as that.

Funny, neither would I...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 10:43:58 AM
I am still single... can you believe it?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Tikhon29605 on June 21, 2015, 10:53:36 AM
Nothing wrong with being single.  At least its quiet and peaceful.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on June 21, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
I am still single... can you believe it?

Yes. Yes, we can.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
I don't know what i am doing wrong.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on June 21, 2015, 11:22:53 AM
I don't know what i am doing wrong.

We do.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 11:27:17 AM
Enlighten me.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on June 21, 2015, 11:55:45 AM
I don't know what i am doing wrong.

What you are doing to find a girl?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
I don't recall that i ever said i was looking for virgin. But now i say it! Only virgins! Fornicator queens are out!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on June 21, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
I don't recall that i ever said i was looking for virgin. But now i say it! Only virgins! Fornicator queens are out!

It is very hard to find suitable person in these times. Now it have different understanding for the values.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 12:27:49 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Arachne on June 21, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Just hide your money better.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on June 21, 2015, 12:40:53 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on June 21, 2015, 12:41:50 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.

I pity that girl.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 12:42:21 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.

I pity that girl.
Me too.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 12:53:26 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.
I have seen the "best of the best" of females at my theology faculty, they are women of this world. That means they are virgins but only in their elbows. lol
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Asteriktos on June 21, 2015, 01:39:37 PM
Give yourself a shiny star, Pravoslavac!

(http://image.blingee.com/images18/content/output/000/000/000/783/741032060_430608.gif)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Pravoslavac on June 21, 2015, 01:41:19 PM
(http://rlv.zcache.com/dprk_art_01_ornament-r229ba39185a4412ca5e091c005cb37e5_x7sjc_8byvr_324.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Czar Lazar on June 21, 2015, 05:48:50 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.
I have seen the "best of the best" of females at my theology faculty, they are women of this world. That means they are virgins but only in their elbows. lol

interesting.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on June 21, 2015, 05:52:05 PM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.
I have seen the "best of the best" of females at my theology faculty, they are women of this world. That means they are virgins but only in their elbows. lol

interesting.

My condolences.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on May 22, 2016, 08:06:25 AM
It's not my fault that women try to fornicate with me as soon as they see me. So i have to chase them away.

I guess not all are such you will find the right girl.
I have seen the "best of the best" of females at my theology faculty, they are women of this world. That means they are virgins but only in their elbows. lol

You seen the most worse women.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on May 22, 2016, 12:40:15 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on May 22, 2016, 12:49:07 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.

Is it really that bad down there? 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on May 22, 2016, 12:58:52 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.

What about the girls from your Church?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on May 22, 2016, 01:15:50 PM
Is it really that bad down there?
I'm exaggerating, the average girl from here is bisexual and promiscuous but transsexuality and STD's are not that frequent. Still, I've met a lot of transsexuals (not in the biblical sense, obviously, although I'm very grateful a particular one of them let me know). If there was no penis or virus involved, though, I'd be happy to forgive one's sexual past, since she would have to forgive mine anyway.

What about the girls from your Church?
There are really very few of my age who are single, most some years younger or older, which is a problem in my age, but no despair, I'm too young to actually worry about that. I'll probably have to convert a heterodox girl, as it was the case of my ex.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on May 22, 2016, 03:09:55 PM
I'm exaggerating, the average girl from here is bisexual and promiscuous...

I might be moving down there ASAP, so PM me with your parish information so I can visit sometime. 
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on May 22, 2016, 03:58:11 PM
I'm exaggerating, the average girl from here is bisexual and promiscuous...

I might be moving down there ASAP, so PM me with your parish information so I can visit sometime.
Not the girls from the parish, it'd be particularly awful to talk about them like that.  :laugh:  If you like the idea of the average town girl, however, I could recommend you some public restrooms. I should warn you there's some big danger in meeting unknown women in Rio, though, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on May 22, 2016, 04:07:53 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.
And what's about men?
Anyway, I shouldn't complain so much regarding my problems with finding the right man...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on May 22, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.
And what's about men?
Anyway, I shouldn't complain so much regarding my problems with finding the right man...
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual. I'm among these, but I have had unpleasant episodes with the other 20%, most (but not all) when I had long hair, even though I had a beard. If any of you ever come to Brazil, never sit at the back of a bus, I think it's some kind of gay code I took some time to grasp.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on May 22, 2016, 04:24:08 PM
I'm exaggerating, the average girl from here is bisexual and promiscuous...

I might be moving down there ASAP, so PM me with your parish information so I can visit sometime.
Not the girls from the parish, it'd be particularly awful to talk about them like that.  :laugh:  If you like the idea of the average town girl, however, I could recommend you some public restrooms. I should warn you there's some big danger in meeting unknown women in Rio, though, if you know what I mean.

LOL.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on August 28, 2016, 12:43:07 PM
Deleted.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on August 28, 2016, 12:55:20 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.
And what's about men?
Anyway, I shouldn't complain so much regarding my problems with finding the right man...
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

Anything in English? Around here the percentage of LGBTIs is usually estimated to be maybe something like 5%. That could be up to how terms are defined though.

Anyway, I shouldn't complain so much regarding my problems with finding the right man...

Considering how beautiful you are that shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on August 28, 2016, 12:57:41 PM
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

There are stats claiming that only 80% of the women in Rio are men.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on August 28, 2016, 01:08:20 PM
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

There are stats claiming that only 80% of the women in Rio are men.

That's kind of amusing coming from a Dutch. You are so liberal that even your racists are gay.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on August 28, 2016, 01:15:50 PM
Living in Rio, finding a women without a penis and/or HIV would be cool enough.
And what's about men?
Anyway, I shouldn't complain so much regarding my problems with finding the right man...
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

Anything in English? Around here the percentage of LGBTIs is usually estimated to be maybe something like 5%.
Nothing I could find, but being more specific the stats are that 19,3% of men identify as gay or bisexual. This is too much even for Brazil, among researched cities Rio scored #1 and #2 had 10,8%.

There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

There are stats claiming that only 80% of the women in Rio are men.
LOL, I'll start using this one.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on August 28, 2016, 01:42:56 PM
Thanks. Just googled a Wikipedia reference and it seems that the proportions are different than around here also in that there are more gays than bis and more men than women Maybe I need to pay a visit to a local university's library to find some more reference.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: FinnJames on August 28, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
Thanks. Just googled a Wikipedia reference and it seems that the proportions are different than around here also in that there are more gays than bis and more men than women Maybe I need to pay a visit to a local university's library to find some more reference.

Don't be fooled by percentage figures for gay and bi men. The number of men who have sex with other men is much higher. Many of the latter are married and/or don't consider themselves gay or bi because they do not assume the passive role in sex.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on August 28, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
Thanks. Just googled a Wikipedia reference and it seems that the proportions are different than around here also in that there are more gays than bis and more men than women Maybe I need to pay a visit to a local university's library to find some more reference.

Don't be fooled by percentage figures for gay and bi men. The number of men who have sex with other men is much higher. Many of the latter are married and/or don't consider themselves gay or bi because they do not assume the passive role in sex.
True, people have even started to use "MSM" (men who have sex with men) to have clearer figures, while some unresolved figures have forged labels like "g0y" or "highsexual".
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on August 28, 2016, 02:01:32 PM
Thanks. Just googled a Wikipedia reference and it seems that the proportions are different than around here also in that there are more gays than bis and more men than women Maybe I need to pay a visit to a local university's library to find some more reference.

Don't be fooled by percentage figures for gay and bi men.

I'm not but being a bit nerdy I'm also interested in how terms are defined around the World and what's the notions' historical background. Sexual orientation is not just about sex.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on August 28, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
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Title: Re: singles?
Post by: hecma925 on August 28, 2016, 08:55:42 PM
There are stats claiming that only 80% of the men in Rio are heterosexual.

There are stats claiming that only 80% of the women in Rio are men.

That's kind of amusing coming from a Dutch. You are so liberal that even your racists are gay.

This exchange made me chuckle to myself.  Probably in a gay manner.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Svartzorn on August 28, 2016, 10:39:34 PM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/ec/ec90782245ef667a7d90ffe18735806adf64925cf735e11fa803eacd104c5556.jpg)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: TheTrisagion on August 28, 2016, 11:51:01 PM
Thanks. Just googled a Wikipedia reference and it seems that the proportions are different than around here also in that there are more gays than bis and more men than women Maybe I need to pay a visit to a local university's library to find some more reference.

Don't be fooled by percentage figures for gay and bi men. The number of men who have sex with other men is much higher. Many of the latter are married and/or don't consider themselves gay or bi because they do not assume the passive role in sex.
:o

The more you know, I guess...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: WPM on August 29, 2016, 11:16:09 PM
I'm single and don't have kids
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on August 30, 2016, 06:52:47 AM
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: TheTrisagion on August 30, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
You have kids?  ;)
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Dominika on August 30, 2016, 09:19:58 AM
I'm single and don't have kids
Me too, still, unfortunately (at least for the 1st one).
You have kids?  ;)
Ah, no! ;) I used Polish grammar scheme. I should have written just "+1" and it would be correct.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Indocern on August 30, 2016, 10:29:53 AM
I am single too unfortunately, I am not found the proper girl.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RichC on November 05, 2016, 03:50:18 AM
56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 05, 2016, 06:38:02 AM
56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

I salute you, sir!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on November 05, 2016, 07:53:18 AM
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: TheTrisagion on November 05, 2016, 08:48:16 PM
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.
;D
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on November 06, 2016, 01:00:51 AM
I'm looking for a single Orthodox maiden to move with me to the jungle and lead a chaste life with 6-10 children for the glory of True Brazilian Orthodoxy. We can pretend it's the Scetes, Siberia or sth... PM me for details.

I thought I had a nominee...
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 06, 2016, 03:10:06 AM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: mike on November 06, 2016, 03:12:07 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Alpo on November 06, 2016, 06:19:05 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

You should man up and become Orthodox!
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: seekeroftruth777 on November 06, 2016, 10:35:10 AM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: seekeroftruth777 on November 06, 2016, 10:38:49 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 06, 2016, 10:40:59 AM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

Who's then to continue the dynasty? It can't be a bastard.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: biro on November 06, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Indeed.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: mike on November 06, 2016, 11:05:19 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 06, 2016, 11:12:05 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.

+1
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Mor Ephrem on November 06, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity...

Oh?

Quote
...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Cyrillic on November 06, 2016, 08:05:09 PM

...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Celibacy.

Quote
Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 06, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

I love my wife. She's an admirable girl. And it's still very personal -- I dream about her most nights.

It's possible I love her even more than you love trolling Orthodoxy.

The present distress, as St. Paul styled it, is simply inimical to marriage. This is not the fault of individual women and men. Savior, save us -- our children are in danger of growing up in a society where most people cannot even successfully live with themselves.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesRottnek on November 06, 2016, 09:49:34 PM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

The Apostle agrees
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesRottnek on November 06, 2016, 09:50:16 PM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".

Half the responses from you tend to bash that "religion that supposedly cares about families so much" what's up with that?

Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.

If only there was still POTM
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: NicholasMyra on November 06, 2016, 11:38:54 PM
Despite what you hear in sermons or books, when you look into what Christ was saying or lives of saints it seems family wasn't that important in early Christianity and other things were considered more important than that. Now it seems it is the main issue.
The gospel according to monkabees:

1. Regulating Cartesian theater movies given legitimacy by calling them logismoi
2. Married sex and child discipline
3. Saying the words modernism and secularism
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: TheTrisagion on November 07, 2016, 12:54:24 AM
As for a forum of a members of a religion that supposedly cares much about families this board has a huge representation of men hating their former wives. So much for "protecting natural marriage".
Two. There were two. Unless most of us are sock puppets, I wouldn't classify that as a huge representation.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: mike on November 07, 2016, 01:14:44 AM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 07, 2016, 01:41:56 AM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: JamesRottnek on November 07, 2016, 02:58:52 AM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: DeniseDenise on November 07, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.



are you on drugs?   How is Christianity NOT about Christ.....
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 07, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.

As a tautology on a topic can fairly be mouthed by either side of a debate it does not further the debate but is rhetorical evasion. The question here is, What about children is not about Christ, and how?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 07, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.



are you on drugs?   How is Christianity NOT about Christ.....

Thank you for asking. I am on drugs and have a series if MRIs later this week.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Porter ODoran on November 07, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

If you and your intended are fully aware that marriage is an ascetic community to be built of extremely different souls, in this modern life, and if you are aware that you have been extensively deceived about the nature of love, and if you put your children at the center of the lives of _both_ of you, then you should survive with a steady diet of the Jesus Prayer. But let me add the revelation that, once married, the griefs of singlehood will magically appear not have been bad and instead your own neglect of yourself in singlehood will seem to have been its main evil. By which I mean that in singlehood we, nowadays, thanks to the popular deceit, neglect and abuse ourselves under the justification that a life is not deserving that does not comprise "romance." In other words, we imagine a disability, and by that we ourselves enforce a disability.

Be generous with yourself, treat yourself like family you care for, and above all above all above all give to yourself friends, entrance into other circles and families, and a busy social life.


Edited to add:  not a monklike asceticism -- not asceticism of body -- something quite different.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: mike on November 07, 2016, 02:43:20 PM
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...and other things were considered more important than that.

Such as?

Jesus.

What does it mean for Chistianity to be about Christ? This seems circular or evasive.

And it seems rather opposed to the Gospel as declared by Paul to think that anything matters except for Christ.

As a tautology on a topic can fairly be mouthed by either side of a debate it does not further the debate but is rhetorical evasion. The question here is, What about children is not about Christ, and how?

Mt 10, 34-39
Lk 14, 25-27
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Vanhyo on February 16, 2017, 06:00:28 AM
28, still single. :P
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: RaphaCam on February 16, 2017, 06:20:11 AM
I could use a girlfriend right now. Hopefully there's a chance this is sorted out soon.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Lepanto on February 17, 2017, 06:29:39 AM
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: nikolaj on February 17, 2017, 04:36:49 PM
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.

At that time, the two options were celibate life, or marriage.

What are the options in this day and age????

Hence, the struggle to 'emphasize' the importance of family.

Enough said.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: FinnJames on February 18, 2017, 01:15:23 AM
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.

At that time, the two options were celibate life, or marriage.

What are the options in this day and age????

Hence, the struggle to 'emphasize' the importance of family.

Enough said.

Given the existence of brothels in the Roman world, I don't think that's entirely true. And Jesus does save a 'woman taken in adultery' from being stoned to death.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: nikolaj on February 18, 2017, 05:40:35 AM
Is that the whole picture? What was the 'oldest trade'?
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Vanhyo on February 18, 2017, 08:07:59 AM
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
Reading papolics brilliant insights usually gives me a hard facepalm.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Lepanto on February 18, 2017, 08:18:14 AM
Looking at christianity from outside, it is a religion founded by a single man
apparently not interested in marriage and starting a family. So indeed, emphasizing
the importance of intact families so much does not appear to be what the founder intended,
but a later innovation. Lk 14,26 is the obvious reference.
Reading papolics brilliant insights usually gives me a hard facepalm.
Can't say I like the label "papolic". Please avoid it.
Also, I wrote "looking from the outside". This means I assume an imaginary other person's perspective for the moment which does not necessarily coincide with my own.
Title: Re: singles?
Post by: Justin Kolodziej on February 20, 2017, 09:44:23 PM
I'm not single but not married either. I guess I'll be restored to my wife in heaven. Marriage was hell but also full of poignancy. I wouldn't do it again but I am glad I risked it.

56 and single and loving it.  Was married for 16 years. Worst mistake of my life.

It sounds like I should never get married, like ever :o

If you and your intended are fully aware that marriage is an ascetic community to be built of extremely different souls, in this modern life, and if you are aware that you have been extensively deceived about the nature of love, and if you put your children at the center of the lives of _both_ of you, then you should survive with a steady diet of the Jesus Prayer. But let me add the revelation that, once married, the griefs of singlehood will magically appear not have been bad and instead your own neglect of yourself in singlehood will seem to have been its main evil. By which I mean that in singlehood we, nowadays, thanks to the popular deceit, neglect and abuse ourselves under the justification that a life is not deserving that does not comprise "romance." In other words, we imagine a disability, and by that we ourselves enforce a disability.

Be generous with yourself, treat yourself like family you care for, and above all above all above all give to yourself friends, entrance into other circles and families, and a busy social life.


Edited to add:  not a monklike asceticism -- not asceticism of body -- something quite different.
Well, if you put it that way...I got kicked out of mine due to attempting to lord it over everyone, but am still expected to supply for the financial needs of the novices of said ascetic community :(  :P
Of course RC theology (especially that new Theology of the Body stuff) doesn't really explain marriage in those terms, but it would have been helpful to know that the "head" doesn't get to "rule" the rest of the family. At least I can honestly say that if I were still married I would not have been chrismated Orthodox.