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Title: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Orthodoc on September 21, 2009, 10:41:36 PM

One of my new Godsons who converted fom Roman Catholicism just found out he and his wife are having a son.  The baby will be baptised as an Orthodox Catholic and they want to name it Jude Michael.  I know there is a St Jude in the Latin church but is there a recognized Orthodox St Jude?  If there is can anyone provide info on him and where I could obtain an Icon for the baptism.  Thanks in advance.

Orthodoc
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 21, 2009, 10:54:07 PM
St. Thaddeus Jude? Isn't the Apostle the Latin saint you are referring to?
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Ionnis on September 21, 2009, 10:55:28 PM
St. Jude was one of the twelve apostles.  He even wrote one of the Epistles in the New Testament which is named after him.
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Orthodoc on September 21, 2009, 11:00:29 PM
St. Jude was one of the twelve apostles.  He even wrote one of the Epistles in the New Testament which is named after him.

Is St Jude and Judas one in the same?  Can any of you provide a website on St Jude Thaddeus?

Orthodoc
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Ionnis on September 21, 2009, 11:04:38 PM
St. Jude was one of the twelve apostles.  He even wrote one of the Epistles in the New Testament which is named after him.

Is St Jude and Judas one in the same?  Can any of you provide a website on St Jude Thaddeus?

Orthodoc

I think Jude and Judas are the same name.  However, he isn't Judas, the one who betrayed Christ.  He remained faithful to Christ and wrote an epistle which is in the NT canon.  You can read that, I suppose.  As far as non-biblical texts, I have no idea where to look. 
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: John of the North on September 21, 2009, 11:04:51 PM
Apostle Jude, Brother of the Lord
Commemorated on June 19
(from OCA.org)

The Holy Apostle Jude, one of the twelve apostles of Christ, is descended from King David and Solomon, and was the son of Righteous Joseph the Betrothed (Sunday after the Nativity of the Lord) by his first wife.

The Holy Apostle John the Theologian writes in his Gospel, "... neither did his brethren believe in Him" (John. 7:5). St Theophylact, Archbishop of Bulgaria, explains this passage. He says that at the beginning of the Lord Jesus Christ's earthly ministry, Joseph's sons, Jude among them, did not believe in His divine nature. Tradition says that when St Joseph returned from Egypt, he began to divide his possessions among his sons. He wanted to allot a share to Christ the Savior, born miraculously and incorruptibly from the All-Pure Virgin Mary. The brothers were opposed to this because Jesus was born of another mother. Only James, later called "The Brother of God," offered to share his portion with Him.

Jude came to believe in Christ the Savior as the awaited Messiah, and he followed Him and was chosen as one of the twelve Apostles. Mindful of his sin, the Apostle Jude considered himself unworthy to be called the Lord's brother, and in his Epistle he calls himself merely the brother of James.

The Holy Apostle Jude also had other names: the Evangelist Matthew terms him "Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddeus" (Mt. 10:3). The Holy Evangelist Mark also calls him Thaddeus (Mark 3:18), and in the Acts of the Holy Apostles he is called Barsabas (Acts 15: 22). This was customary at that time.

After the Ascension of the Lord Jesus Christ, St Jude traveled about preaching the Gospel. He propagated the faith in Christ at first in Judea, Galilee, Samaria and Idumaia, and later in the lands of Arabia, Syria and Mesopotamia. Finally, he went to the city of Edessa. Here he finished the work that was not completed by his predecessor, St Thaddeus, Apostle of the Seventy (August 21). There is a tradition that St Jude went to Persia, where he wrote his catholic Epistle in Greek. In the Epistle much profound truth was expressed in a few words.

St Jude's Epistle speaks about the Holy Trinity, about the Incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ, about the good and bad angels, and about the dread Last Judgment. The Apostle urges believers to guard themselves against fleshly impurity, to be diligent in prayer, faith and love, to convert the lost to the path of salvation, and to guard themselves from the teachings of heretics. He also says that it is not enough just to be converted to Christianity, but faith must be demonstrated by good works. He cites the rebellious angels and men punished by God (verses 6 ff.) to support this.

The Holy Apostle Jude died as a martyr around the year 80 near Mt. Ararat in Armenia, where he was crucified and pierced by arrows.

Troparion - Tone 1
Divinely we praise you, O Jude, as a faithful witness,
Knowing you to be the brother of Christ.
You trampled on delusion,
And so preserved the faith.
Today as we celebrate your holy memory,
By your intercessions we receive remission of sins.

Kontakion - Tone 2
You were chosen as a disciple for your firmness of mind:
An unshakable pillar of the Church of Christ,
You proclaimed His word to the Gentiles,
Telling them to believe in one Godhead.
You were glorified by Him, receiving the grace of healing,
Healing the ills of all who came to you,
O most praised Apostle Jude!

Ikon: http://www.skete.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=438
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: LBK on September 22, 2009, 12:00:29 AM
Jude was the English form of the name common to both the Apostle (and Brother of the Lord, through him being a son of St Joseph the Betrothed) and the Iscariot. Judas is the Greek form, and has been reserved solely for Judas Iscariot, the betrayer of Christ. Jude is a perfectly acceptable Orthodox baptismal name.
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: livefreeordie on September 22, 2009, 12:48:11 AM
Jude is a great name!  We named one of our son's Jude, and he has an Icon of Saint Jude hanging above his bed.  And it's always fun yelling, "Hey Jude!". If you are a Beatles fan that is. ;)
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Orthodoc on September 22, 2009, 12:55:28 AM
Apostle Jude, Brother of the Lord
Commemorated on June 19
(from OCA.org)

The Holy Apostle Jude, one of the twelve apostles of Christ, is descended from King David and Solomon, and was the son of Righteous Joseph the Betrothed (Sunday after the Nativity of the Lord) by his first wife.

The Holy Apostle John the Theologian writes in his Gospel, "... neither did his brethren believe in Him" (John. 7:5). St Theophylact, Archbishop of Bulgaria, explains this passage. He says that at the beginning of the Lord Jesus Christ's earthly ministry, Joseph's sons, Jude among them, did not believe in His divine nature. Tradition says that when St Joseph returned from Egypt, he began to divide his possessions among his sons. He wanted to allot a share to Christ the Savior, born miraculously and incorruptibly from the All-Pure Virgin Mary. The brothers were opposed to this because Jesus was born of another mother. Only James, later called "The Brother of God," offered to share his portion with Him.

Jude came to believe in Christ the Savior as the awaited Messiah, and he followed Him and was chosen as one of the twelve Apostles. Mindful of his sin, the Apostle Jude considered himself unworthy to be called the Lord's brother, and in his Epistle he calls himself merely the brother of James.

The Holy Apostle Jude also had other names: the Evangelist Matthew terms him "Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddeus" (Mt. 10:3). The Holy Evangelist Mark also calls him Thaddeus (Mark 3:18), and in the Acts of the Holy Apostles he is called Barsabas (Acts 15: 22). This was customary at that time.

After the Ascension of the Lord Jesus Christ, St Jude traveled about preaching the Gospel. He propagated the faith in Christ at first in Judea, Galilee, Samaria and Idumaia, and later in the lands of Arabia, Syria and Mesopotamia. Finally, he went to the city of Edessa. Here he finished the work that was not completed by his predecessor, St Thaddeus, Apostle of the Seventy (August 21). There is a tradition that St Jude went to Persia, where he wrote his catholic Epistle in Greek. In the Epistle much profound truth was expressed in a few words.

St Jude's Epistle speaks about the Holy Trinity, about the Incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ, about the good and bad angels, and about the dread Last Judgment. The Apostle urges believers to guard themselves against fleshly impurity, to be diligent in prayer, faith and love, to convert the lost to the path of salvation, and to guard themselves from the teachings of heretics. He also says that it is not enough just to be converted to Christianity, but faith must be demonstrated by good works. He cites the rebellious angels and men punished by God (verses 6 ff.) to support this.

The Holy Apostle Jude died as a martyr around the year 80 near Mt. Ararat in Armenia, where he was crucified and pierced by arrows.

Troparion - Tone 1
Divinely we praise you, O Jude, as a faithful witness,
Knowing you to be the brother of Christ.
You trampled on delusion,
And so preserved the faith.
Today as we celebrate your holy memory,
By your intercessions we receive remission of sins.

Kontakion - Tone 2
You were chosen as a disciple for your firmness of mind:
An unshakable pillar of the Church of Christ,
You proclaimed His word to the Gentiles,
Telling them to believe in one Godhead.
You were glorified by Him, receiving the grace of healing,
Healing the ills of all who came to you,
O most praised Apostle Jude!

Ikon: http://www.skete.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=438

Thank you ever so much for this information.  It is greatly appreciated.

Orthodoc
Title: Re: Orthodox Baptismal Names - St Jude?
Post by: Alveus Lacuna on September 22, 2009, 01:02:22 AM
Jude = Judas = Jewish Guy or Guy from Judea

So whenever they call him "Jude", it is really the same as calling him a Jew. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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