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Title: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 30, 2008, 02:53:39 AM
OK, I admit it- I'm a major dog lover.  When people bring their dogs in where I work (even though it's posted not to on the doors), I'm the first to approach them.  I can't help it, I really love dogs.  In about a year from now, I hope to own my own place and - you guessed it- really want to get a dog.  So, are there any of you good people who love dogs? 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: PeterTheAleut on May 30, 2008, 03:15:39 AM
WOOF!
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: sohma_hatori on May 30, 2008, 03:23:52 AM
Well, I am a dog fan..

Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: stashko on May 30, 2008, 03:32:43 AM
I love dog's alot....there so loyal never complain ,if you get mad at them they forgive.
when my lily was alive i couldn't eat anything around her..with those beady hungry eye's staring and staring till i surender my food,,though she was busting out on her sides...memory eternal...(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_3_15.gif)Such a Great Dog ....
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: sohma_hatori on May 30, 2008, 03:33:37 AM
id say Dogs, are very Christian!! hehehe,,  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: prodromas on May 30, 2008, 04:31:48 AM
id say Dogs, are very Christian!! hehehe,,  :laugh:

"A dog is better than I for a dog always loves and never judges".I heard that on a podcast recently don't know who said it though.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Entscheidungsproblem on May 30, 2008, 08:01:08 AM
"A dog is better than I for a dog always loves and never judges".

So true.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Αριστοκλής on May 30, 2008, 09:03:18 AM
Dogs? I thought they were my kids...
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: EofK on May 30, 2008, 09:25:33 AM
Dogs are ok, but I prefer cats.  They're self-cleaning and easy to photograph and caption.  ;) 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Entscheidungsproblem on May 30, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
Dogs are ok, but I prefer cats.  They're self-cleaning and easy to photograph and caption.  ;) 

*shudders*  Even if I wasn't allergic, I doubt I would ever be a cat person.   :P
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: EofK on May 30, 2008, 09:52:12 AM
*shudders*  Even if I wasn't allergic, I doubt I would ever be a cat person.   :P

Aw, but they're so sweet!  The best part is when they curl up on your throat when you're asleep and knead you with all twenty claws.   ;) 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Αριστοκλής on May 30, 2008, 09:52:23 AM
*shudders*  Even if I wasn't allergic, I doubt I would ever be a cat person.   :P

In our home I own the dogs and wife owns the cats.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 30, 2008, 11:51:22 AM
Dogs actually want to be with you.  They love us unconditionally, they listen to you when no one else will, and depending on the type of dog, they'll defend you to their death.  I once had a male Shih-Tzu who, when I had to take him to the vet for check-ups, would actually display aggression towards dogs much, much bigger than him and I put together. :o
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: FrChris on May 30, 2008, 11:58:04 AM
I like dogs, and I like cats that like people..the aloof ones resurrect all my insecurities of being unworthy!

Also, when I first opened this thread, I thought it was going to be about Dog the Bounty Hunter!   :)
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: EofK on May 30, 2008, 12:10:40 PM
Dogs actually want to be with you. 

That's the problem I have with dogs:  They want to be with you whether you want them to be or not.  And being with you involves a whole lotta slobber.  My brother had a lab-chow mix that would get so excited when I came home, he'd come running at me at top speed and ram me in the back of the knees.  I think that was his ploy to get me down on the ground in licking distance.  Blech.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Heorhij on May 30, 2008, 12:34:20 PM
"A dog is better than I for a dog always loves and never judges".I heard that on a podcast recently don't know who said it though.

And another one, "an average dog is a better person than an average person" (Andy Rooney)  :o
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Heorhij on May 30, 2008, 12:38:57 PM
I love cats, so I call myself a cat person, but I never actually owned a dog, so maybe I am a dog person as well.

My wife is equally a dog person and a cat person, she loves all cats and all dogs in the world, she just cannot even pass by a cat or a dog on a street without stopping and talking with the animal, sort of like people talk to little children. We are owned by two cats, and the only reason we don't also have dogs is that my wife is terribly allergic to them.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Riddikulus on May 30, 2008, 09:03:58 PM
I love all animals, but I have to say that I'm a cat person. I love their independence, superiority and demi-god attitudes. I love the way they move through the world all-seeing, all-knowing, seemingly taking in their surroundings with a mystic foreknowledge as old as time. A cat that loves his/her devotees is something awesome, totally manipulative and deserving of worship.

Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Starlight on May 31, 2008, 12:23:54 AM
I also love all animals, but I never had any at my household. Still I really enjoy seeing them while visiting friends' residences.

Dogs are my favorites! Loyal, smart, sensitive! Love them!

Does not mean that I am an anti-cat activist, by all means. Cats... Kind, polite (most of them), sensitive, independent, sophisticated!
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: TinaG on May 31, 2008, 01:06:10 AM
The best dog I ever had was a retired racing greyhound.  Greyhounds are very cat-like dogs which is why I think I like them so much.  They are very loving, but not in a drooling, insecure sort of way.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 31, 2008, 01:10:34 AM
 I wanna go on record that I really like cats, at least the affectionate ones.  There's a stray cat that I've been feeding, but I can't adopt her because of my severe allergies.  I think she's still fairly young because she likes to play with a sock that I tied to a string.  And she loves to talk.  A lot.  In fact, I've had so much fun with her that I actually looked online to see if there are any hypo-allergenic cats (no luck!).  She's so sweet but I'd be wheezing and my eyes would swell shut if I even thought about adopting her.  Now onto my rant.

[rant]
Why is it that when people start talkin' bout dogs, all y'all cat people gotta jump in?  Ain't nothin' wrong with cats, but we talkin' bout dogs up in here. Is it 'coz y'all are just as neurotic as the cats themselves?  If one person says they gotta dog, five cat people say, "Oh, yeah, well..."  Jiminy Christmas, y'all... ;)
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Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Dismas84 on May 31, 2008, 01:18:55 AM
I love dogs...but I prefer big ones, not the tiny, yippy, overgrown rat ones. My family had Great Danes for the longest time, including a great one named Cita. She was a sweet, tender thing. We found a funny thing when my mom was fake hitting me - Cita was snapping at her! If my parents had been abusive (which thankfully they weren't) then she would've been there to protect us.  ;D We had to put her to sleep in 1998, unfortunately, and it was a hard moment for us all. We've been blessed with a St Bernard now, one named Winston. We lucked out too - turns out there's a breed of dry-mouths that don't drool excessively a la Beethoven.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Orthodox Wannabe on May 31, 2008, 02:36:44 AM
OK, I admit it- I'm a major dog lover.  When people bring their dogs in where I work (even though it's posted not to on the doors), I'm the first to approach them.  I can't help it, I really love dogs.  In about a year from now, I hope to own my own place and - you guessed it- really want to get a dog.  So, are there any of you good people who love dogs? 

I love all animals. BUT there is something special about a dog. I have never ran across a person more trusting or friendly than the dogs I have owned.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Riddikulus on May 31, 2008, 03:25:56 AM
Why is it that when people start talkin' bout dogs, all y'all cat people gotta jump in?  Ain't nothin' wrong with cats, but we talkin' bout dogs up in here. Is it 'coz y'all are just as neurotic as the cats themselves?  

I can only speak for myself when I say; "hell, yeah!"
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: TinaG on May 31, 2008, 09:58:03 AM
Cat people and dog people are just trying to evangelize each other and maybe make some converts.  See how GabrieltheCelt has been taken under the spell of a cat.  He's wavering, just on the edge of saying,

"Yes, I do like cats!  I do, I do.  And I will tease them with a sock.   I cannot take them for a walk, but I pet them even though it makes me cough.  I will give them treats and snacks.  I will scratch upon their backs.  I will accept the blatant facts.  The cat is king.   The cat does rule.  This is not what I was taught in school.  I do not need a fawning dog.  A pet that would jump over a log.....because you told it to.  Thank you, Thank you, cats out there, I do so like you everywhere."
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 31, 2008, 10:42:54 AM
Cat people and dog people are just trying to evangelize each other and maybe make some converts.  See how GabrieltheCelt has been taken under the spell of a cat.  He's wavering, just on the edge of saying,

"Yes, I do like cats!  I do, I do.  And I will tease them with a sock.   I cannot take them for a walk, but I pet them even though it makes me cough.  I will give them treats and snacks.  I will scratch upon their backs.  I will accept the blatant facts.  The cat is king.   The cat does rule.  This is not what I was taught in school.  I do not need a fawning dog.  A pet that would jump over a log.....because you told it to.  Thank you, Thank you, cats out there, I do so like you everywhere."
Blaspheme!  Never!  But re: your limerick- not to shabby. Dr. Seuss would be proud. ;)
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: EofK on May 31, 2008, 12:17:21 PM
[rant]
Why is it that when people start talkin' bout dogs, all y'all cat people gotta jump in?  Ain't nothin' wrong with cats, but we talkin' bout dogs up in here. Is it 'coz y'all are just as neurotic as the cats themselves?  If one person says they gotta dog, five cat people say, "Oh, yeah, well..."  Jiminy Christmas, y'all... ;)
[/rant]

Sorry, I was proselytizing.   ;)  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Quinault on May 31, 2008, 12:32:44 PM
I am a dog person. When we got our first family dog I was 9 years old. We traded a gun for a purebred English Springer Spaniel. He was great and lived until my eldest daughter was 3 years old.

Now I have two pitbulls. Both are brendal, and both are really great dogs. I had another pit that died a couple months ago. We adopt pits that would otherwise be put to sleep or adopted by people that want to turn them into fighters.

Pits are great fighting dogs precisely because they will do ANYTHING for their owners. They have a bad rep here in the States, but they really are wonderful dogs.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Quinault on May 31, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
We also have a Maine Coon that licks us like he is a dog. He is about twice the weight he should be and really loud. My husband threatens to kill him nearly daily-and he is a cat person. This cat whines, howls and talks incessantly until you feed him, steals the dogs food, and puts his hairy behind in our butter every chance he gets.

I only really like him between the hours of 1am-3am. He is cuddly, affectionate and mellow. Before and after that time I have a strong urge to throw him off the balcony.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Marc1152 on May 31, 2008, 01:15:33 PM
We also have a Maine Coon that licks us like he is a dog. He is about twice the weight he should be and really loud. My husband threatens to kill him nearly daily-and he is a cat person. This cat whines, howls and talks incessantly until you feed him, steals the dogs food, and puts his hairy behind in our butter every chance he gets.

I only really like him between the hours of 1am-3am. He is cuddly, affectionate and mellow. Before and after that time I have a strong urge to throw him off the balcony.

I have never owned a dog or a cat. It seems like you are set up to go through major mourning when they die ever six to fourteen years. My friend just lost her cat. major breakdown over it.  I dunno. I would be afraid thas after ten or twelve years, I would be totally bonded only to have the pooch run over by an ice cream truck.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..ice cream  (Homer)

Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: MaryCecilia on May 31, 2008, 06:02:26 PM
Personally i love cats and dogs, they both have their good and bad qualities. :) i love that dogs will take walks with you and fetch/bring a ball for you to throw for them. i love that they don't go in a litter box like a cat does/can though i wish both could clean up after themselves when they do do their business!  :P

mary
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: username! on May 31, 2008, 09:48:03 PM
Dogs actually want to be with you.  They love us unconditionally, they listen to you when no one else will, and depending on the type of dog, they'll defend you to their death.  I once had a male Shih-Tzu who, when I had to take him to the vet for check-ups, would actually display aggression towards dogs much, much bigger than him and I put together. :o

Dogs are (regardless of breed) at the dna level Canis lupus subspecies familiaris.  Subspecies indicates that certain physical traits may be seen in one sub group and not in another sub group of the species.  What I am saying it dogs are canis lupus that have been selectively bred throughout the years for various characteristics.  From the toy poodle to the bull mastiff to the wild canis lupus living in the Northwest Territories they are all the same species.  Fundamentally the family dog to the wild canis lupus are pack animals.  Much is to be said of your average family dog and the role of the pack and you the owner.  You aren't a person to them you are one of the pack.  It's neat though because we actually supress our dog's behaviour.  Let Puddles loose and if Puddles finds a few other dogs running loose in the woods and BAM! Puddles becomes a mean lean pack hunting machine.  It happens all the time and wild domesticated canis lupus familaris can be what a canis lupus can't usually be; a dog that isn't scared of man with an appetite for livestock (yes the wild native canis lupus eat livestock and gets blamed for something wild domesticated dogs in the area have done)  Main difference besides a Canis Latrans and a Canis lupus  (besides being different species) is that latrans almost never pack hunts although they live in packs during certain times of the year (here they seem to pack all year long).  A canis lupus almost always hunts in packs, allowing for the take down of larger animals  (elk, deer).  Ok, I know too much about this having studied a canis latrans pack (coyote) on my own for longer than I wish to admit.  I'll save my conclusions on coyotes in my state but they are interesting (their population has exploded in the past decade).  However at heart the complicated and intricate pack order and all the displays we take as love and affection from our dogs, including "wanting to be with us" is because of who and what they are.  Next time you get a chance watch a documentary about Canis Lupus, especially about the Yellowstone packs and you'll learn a lot about your dog sitting there being your potato chip bag guard :)
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Heorhij on May 31, 2008, 10:57:38 PM

[rant]
Why is it that when people start talkin' bout dogs, all y'all cat people gotta jump in?  Ain't nothin' wrong with cats, but we talkin' bout dogs up in here. Is it 'coz y'all are just as neurotic as the cats themselves?  If one person says they gotta dog, five cat people say, "Oh, yeah, well..."  Jiminy Christmas, y'all... ;)
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I dunno... I am definitely neurotic, but I haven't known any neurotic cats. My two cats (one very old fat British Bicolor male and one very young Calico female), and also my deceased Calico female cat are/was very balanced, stable, perfectly well-groomed, always completely in control of any situation. 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: livefreeordie on May 31, 2008, 11:25:53 PM
Major Dog Lover.  Currently we have a German Sheperd who thinks he's one of the kids.  Until a stranger comes around then look out, he turns into Cujo.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: GabrieltheCelt on May 31, 2008, 11:40:45 PM
Major Dog Lover.  Currently we have a German Sheperd who thinks he's one of the kids.  Until a stranger comes around then look out, he turns into Cujo.
I really want a G. Sheperd...do they shed much?
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: livefreeordie on May 31, 2008, 11:50:48 PM
I really want a G. Sheperd...do they shed much?

I've had dogs that shed a lot, a Siberian Husky and a Great Pyrennes, and compared to those he hardly sheds at all.  But yes, he does shed, se we brush him about once a week and give him a good bath once a month, and we don't see hair around the house.  Probably depends on the dog though as some German Sheperds have longer hair than others.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Orthodox Wannabe on June 01, 2008, 01:03:37 AM
I have never owned a dog or a cat. It seems like you are set up to go through major mourning when they die ever six to fourteen years. My friend just lost her cat. major breakdown over it.  I dunno. I would be afraid thas after ten or twelve years, I would be totally bonded only to have the pooch run over by an ice cream truck.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..ice cream  (Homer)



Unfortunatly that is very true.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Orthodox Wannabe on June 01, 2008, 01:04:56 AM
Dogs actually want to be with you.  They love us unconditionally, they listen to you when no one else will, and depending on the type of dog, they'll defend you to their death. 

Exactly.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: calligraphqueen on June 13, 2008, 02:37:00 PM
still desperately trying to find a dog for the family and possibly one special dog for our special needs daughter. I can't fine a good fit in either category and the latter requires about 20k for training!   :-[
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: username! on June 13, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
still desperately trying to find a dog for the family and possibly one special dog for our special needs daughter. I can't fine a good fit in either category and the latter requires about 20k for training!   :-[

As far as a dog for the family adopt one at the local animal shelter.  Shelter dogs are the best! 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Quinault on June 13, 2008, 03:47:24 PM
calligraphqueen: Is there a prison program close to you? The womens prisons here have a dog training program for the prisoners. Then they sell or give the dogs to special needs families.

http://www.pathwaystohope.org/prison.htm
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: admiralnick on June 13, 2008, 04:39:09 PM
Also, when I first opened this thread, I thought it was going to be about Dog the Bounty Hunter!   :)

You and me both Fr. Chris!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: calligraphqueen on June 13, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
Nah, we did the pound puppy thing several tries. Fear biters my vet told me to get out of the house asap, abused animals. They really don't know the background and history, or even some of the breed involved.  I wanted it to work but it never did....
I have looked at rescue organizations for various breeds and I think that is a good option. So many people get dogs thinking that is a 'pretty' breed or whatever, then find it's not a good fit for their family because they are never home or some such issue. Many get abandoned simply because of a move.

Haven't thought about prison programs...have to look into that.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: username! on June 14, 2008, 04:24:08 AM
I only ever adopted puppies from the shelter. 
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Quinault on June 14, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
The prison programs for those with special needs actually takes shelter dogs and then has the prisoners train them. They train all day every day. The results are wonderful.
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: PeterTheAleut on June 14, 2008, 02:48:16 PM
Something from my local newspaper:

Oregonians know that dogs come to the rescue
Pack behavior of caring for each other leads to looking out for their owners, too
Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Oregonians know dogs do come to their rescue, most of the time

The news reports said it was like a scene from "Lassie" when Annie, a miniature dachshund from Lake Oswego, saved her owner last month. Pam Fisher had fallen, and Annie barked -- and barked and barked -- until someone called the police, complaining about the noise. When police arrived, Annie kept barking, and eventually they heard Fisher's calls for help.

Talk with dog people for long, and you'll hear many stories of pets who saved the lives of their owners.


Follow this link to read the whole article. (http://www.oregonlive.com/living/oregonian/deb_wood/index.ssf?/base/living/1213050306188420.xml&coll=7&thispage=1)
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: PeterTheAleut on June 14, 2008, 02:54:19 PM
I really want a G. Sheperd...do they shed much?
I grew up with a German Shepherd named Shadow.  I remember Dad once combing enough hair off that dog to fill a 5-gallon bucket.  Shadow was a good dog, but seeing some of the stuff he ate certainly made me think twice about letting him lick me.  EWWWW!  GROSS! :P

One thing to watch out for when buying a German Shepherd:  Apparently, 20th Century American breeding has produced a genetic defect prevalent in German Shepherds--thankfully, some of our more scrupulous breeders have produced many German Shepherds that have not inherited this defect--that results in a potentially debilitating condition known as canine hip dysplasia.  This condition often shows up even in older puppies and can lead to painful arthritis and lameness in one or both hind legs.  You can read more information about this at the following sites:

http://www.4germanshepherds.com/Dysplasia.htm

http://www.dogbiz.com/dogs-grp7/germ-shep/german-shepherd-health-issues.html

http://www.barkbytes.com/bremed/gshep.htm
Title: Re: Any dog fans out there?
Post by: Myrrh23 on June 14, 2008, 09:42:49 PM
I'm more of a cat person than a dog person. My cat is okay with other people, but not with other cats-not even kittens. We torture each other: I go after her fuzzy tummy and she goes after my legs. She often follows me from room to room... ;D
I'd like to get a digital camera and have some LOL Catz moments with her... :P