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« on: February 27, 2005, 11:35:44 PM »

The Orthodox Prayer Book in English back in print.

Re-published with permission of Metropolitan Laurus (ROCA)

Archimandrite Lazarus Moore's beautiful translation
(the original text of the Jordanville Prayer Book)

Hardback bound in buckram (looking just like the original.)

366 pages. 14.50 GBP (British Pounds.)

Now available from the publisher:
Saint George Orthodox Information Service (SGOIS)
The White House
Mettingham
Bungay,
Suffolk, NR35 1TP

Tel/fax: 01986 896708

E-mail: StGeorgeOIS@aol.com

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2005, 11:42:46 PM »

Please forgive my ignorance, but I have a couple questions. First, would American money be acceptable or would I have to get ahold of British currency? Second, if American money is acceptable, roughly how much would 14.50 GBP be in American dollars (and any idea how much for S&H)?
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2005, 11:57:15 PM »

I would think you would be able to send the equivalent amount in USD, but who knows?

Anyways, according to xe.com, 1 GBP = 1.92294 USD - so the prayer book should cost $27.88 USD.

On a side note, what is the difference between this Jordanville and the one that is published now?

How do the contents differ?

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 12:09:10 AM »

Fr Lazarus Moore's translation of the  (Jordanville) Prayer Book is to come back into print.

Fr Lazarus of pious memory translated the Orthodox Prayer Book which contains morning and evening prayers, preparatory prayers for Holy Communion, the Liturgy, and hymns, canons and akathists.  This was first published in the 1960s by Holy Trinity Monastery, Jordanville.

Fr Lazarus, being English, had a deep understanding of, and feeling for, the poetic style and grammar of classic liturgical English.

It was  great sadness to many people to discover that the present edition of the Jordanville Prayer Book has been drastically altered to its detriment.  Now, glory to God, the Saint George Orthodox Information Service (SGOIS) has been given permission to republish Fr Lazarus' original text.

Saint George Orthodox Information Service
The White House
Mettingham
Bungay, Suffolk NR35 1TP, UK.

Telephone and Fax:  01986 896708

E-mail:  StGeorgeOIS@aol.com
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2005, 12:10:19 AM »

Archimandrite Lazarus Moore - a small biography

Fr. Lazarus Moore was born in England on Oct 18, 1902. At the age of 18 he
was sent to British Columbia, Canada to work on a senator's farm earning 50
cents a day. After a few years, now working as a harvester in Alberta, Fr.
Lazarus sensed a call from God to become a missionary. He then spent five
years in an English missionary college.

Fr. Lazarus spent seven weeks in 1934 on Mt. Athos and then went to serve as
a monk in Yugoslavia. He was ordained a deacon and later a priest by
Archbishop Feofan and then sent to Palestine as a member of the Russian
Mission in Jerusalem.

When the Israeli-Arab war broke out in 1948, the Israeli Army took the
Russian Mission as their headquarters. After the war the Israeli's gave the
Mission to the Soviet Union and their Church lost everything. Following
this, Fr Lazarus was made priest in charge of the Russian Convent in Ain
Karim and Transjordan. He was sent to India in 1952 to help in Orthodox
missionary work where he spent 20 years.

In 1972 Fr. Lazarus was called back to Greece. Two years later, in 1974, he
was sent to Sydney, Australia where he served for 9 years. At the request of
Archpriest Peter Gillquist, in 1983, Fr. Lazarus moved to California 'to
assist the Evangelical Orthodox Church in their journey to Orthodoxy.' For
six years he lived in Isla Vista California, working with the 'Evangelical
Orthodox'.

To further God's work in helping the 'Evangelical Orthodox' become
canonical, and because of failing health, Fr. Lazarus moved to Alaska in
1989. There he lived with Dn. Harley and Dianne Cranor (now Fr. Mark and
Matushka Dominica) who had offered to care for him in his later years. Fr.
Lazarus loved his newest home, walking Monastery Drive daily, and spending
time with the parishioners, especially the children. Our dear friend and Fr.
remained in Alaska until his death in 1992.

Fr. Lazarus was said to be the first English Orthodox monk of the modern
era. He read the Scriptures constantly, wrote and published many books and
papers, translating most of the Orthodox service books we have today into
English, including The Arena, The Ladder, the Septuagint Psalter, The Four
Holy Gospels, and Psalms. In his last days he and his team of helpers nearby
and overseas finished correcting and drafting this final translation of the
Orthodox Gospels into English, as the "Holy Love Letters" were his very
bread.

Father was bright and joyful, quick to laugh, clever with words, and brought
the warmth of God to all who met him. He loved to "Get about" and would go
to the zoo, a resturant or wherever you offered to take him. He went with
his spiritual daughter (now Sister Mary) on vacation to meet her family. How
suprised they were to recieve a monk into their home. He delighted in
everything God sent his way, and would often say,
"To do God's will is simple, just fall off the log. God is already there to
catch you."

To cheer up a friend who was to cook for him very early in the morning, he
took all the cereal boxes and stacked them up end on end until they were
piled high on the breakfast table. "Now, I have a balanced diet.", he
teased.

Father always signed his name with TWA, "Traveling With Angels". A few days
before his death, after battling cancer many years, faithfully using the
Jesus Prayer as the medicine for his affliction, the Archangel Michael
appeared to help him. His final journey homeward had begun, TWA... 'the time
of my departure is at hand. I have fought the good fight, I have finished
the race, I have kept the faith.' (2 Timothy 4: 6-8).


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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2005, 09:20:39 PM »

Is there any place in London where I can purchase this prayer book?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2005, 10:47:33 PM »

Is there any place in London where I can purchase this prayer book?

Get in touch with the publisher Andrew Bond. He'll know if there are any London outlets.


Saint George Orthodox Information Service (SGOIS)
The White House
Mettingham
Bungay,
Suffolk, NR35 1TP

Tel/fax: 01986 896708

E-mail: StGeorgeOIS@aol.com



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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2005, 11:00:29 PM »

Thank you, Irish Hermit.

God willing, I will be in London this summer.  Forgive me if this is a stupid question (I'm just beginning to research sites for Orthodox pilgrimage in Great Britain), but is there a place in York (Milvain Bridge) where a pilgrim can stand where (or near) St. Constantine saw the Cross in the Sky?
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2005, 11:09:15 PM »

I'm just beginning to research sites for Orthodox pilgrimage in Great Britain), but is there a place in York (Milvain Bridge) where a pilgrim can stand where (or near) St. Constantine saw the Cross in the Sky?

You'd have to have enormously long legs to have one in York and one on the Milvian Bridge over the Tibur.  Grin

For pilgrimage suggestions sign up to this list and ask away. There are several Orthodox on this list who have done pilgrimages in the UK and Ireland such as you are planning. The latest pilgrims are an Orthodox husband and wife from New Hampshire who visited many of the sites sacred to pre-schism Saints.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CeltList/
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 11:23:46 PM »

Nope, 30-inch inseam.

 I was right...stupid question. 

Constantine and Father: York 306 A.D.  Milvian Bridge,Tiber, near Rome: 312 A.D.

Now, I'm straight!  Thanks.

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2005, 05:15:39 AM »

epektasis,

Go to York Minster (the Cathedral). They charge for entrance, but it's probably worth it (I've been there loads of times as I grew up in Yorkshire and live there still). The Minster is built over the ruins of an old Roman fort which, if I remember correctly, is where Constantine was declared Emperor. You can go down under the Minster and see some of the ruins - then you'd have to be pretty close to where he stood.
I'd also recommend (if you're up in the north of England) going to Durham (the cathedral houses the relics of St. Cuthbert) and especially to Lindisfarne. If you want an idea of the saints of England or pilgrimage sites, you could do worse than to look here:

http://www.orthodoxengland.btinternet.co.uk/hp.htm

I'm sure Fr. Andrew would be only too happy to make suggestions of places to visit if you contact him. I hope you enjoy your visit.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2005, 06:31:41 AM »

1) There will be a Pilgrimage to Mull and Iona in September this year led by His Grace Bishop Kallistos (Ware)

http://www.orthodox-iona.co.uk/

2) Fr Luke Holden in Wales (Greek Patriarchate) is an intrepid organiser of pilgrimages

"Before the Rabbits Scatter"
http://www.ballinagree.freeservers.com/pilgrims.html
A delightful account of the Pilgrimage to Penrhys, with an unexpected and charming description of Father Luke!! Wish I could share this pilgrimage!

Here is Father Luke's homepage. In the left column at the bottom you will find links to accounts of his previous pilgrimages.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/orthodoxchurch/


3) Here is a report of the June 2004 pilgrimage of the New Hampshire couple I mentioned
http://celtic_pilgrimmage.blogspot.com/

4)  You can find more accounts of Orthodox people on pilgrimage in the UK and Ireland by doing a search at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-archive/



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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2005, 06:36:35 AM »

I'm sure Fr. Andrew would be only too happy to make suggestions of places to visit if you contact him. I hope you enjoy your visit.

And Fr Andrew has penned an excellent book to get you started

"The Hallowing of England : A Guide to the Saints of Old England and Their Places of Pilgrimage"
by Andrew Phillips. ASIN: 1898281084

For sale on Amazon $9.95
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1898281084/bookfindercom-20/702-8006652-3564825



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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2005, 08:04:21 AM »

Index of Places linked with Saints

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-archive/message/2200
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2005, 08:51:33 AM »

Thank you Irish Hermit and jmbejdl!  I will look into the  resources that you have provided  in earnest.

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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2005, 12:19:41 PM »

What's wrong with the current edition of the Jordanville Prayer Book?

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 02:05:58 AM »

I just ordered this version with some spare Christmas change.  I hope all of the fuss over this translation proves to be warranted, as I'm not a big fan of the current translation.
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2010, 11:00:26 PM »

I am going to return this book, as it is basically the same as the new Jordanville book.  There are very few differences, aside from a few Catholic devotions in an altered form.  I was disappointing with the quality, especially considering the price.  So my review is to avoid this prayerbook.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2011, 04:51:34 PM »

I am going to return this book, as it is basically the same as the new Jordanville book.  There are very few differences, aside from a few Catholic devotions in an altered form.  I was disappointing with the quality, especially considering the price.  So my review is to avoid this prayerbook.

I distribute this and have handled quite a few copies.  The quality, binding, etc., seems very good to me, no different from the version printed by Jordanville and they have gone to pains to keep the original format and appearance.
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