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« on: May 08, 2011, 10:50:36 PM »


The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes

   This book tries to give an explanation of what is eternal life and where it can be found.
   This book offers a reading through several texts starting with the book of Adam and Eve, in quest for knowledge about eternal life. I am a passionate reader of religious texts, old texts with preference and after much reading I think that I have a coherent image about eternal life that I can expose.
   It does not matter how many sins anyone has. If he does confessions the sins are erased and he can start a new life. Saint Cyprian was the most important sorcerer in his life, he would probably go straight to Hell. However this did not happen since he turned 360 degrees becoming a great saint. Also, to be saved, is good to strive to save others since whatever you try doing to others will eventually come after you. So this is why you need to go only good.

   What is eternal life

   In the words of Amazing grace lyrics eternal life may be something like this:

When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.
    So with eternal life, after ten thousand years of living , you have no less days to sing to God. That is, whatever you do in ten thousand years, there are no less days that you have to live.

   Adam and Eve

   As we found out in Genesis Adam and Eve were immortal. There was no religion then and no need of religion. They were in communion with God and they lived a happy life. However there was an event happening that made humanity know death. Yes, according with Bible book of Genesis , Adam and Eve have eaten from forbidden fruit . As part of this event two thing happen. Death entered the world and people were expelled from Heaven.

   So the religion had appeared with the express duty of bringing man to eternal life and bringing man into Heaven.

   Religion has not as ultimate goal gaining powers or showing miracles or giving health or showing brain waves when doing religious activity or giving wisdom. No. The ultimate goal of religion is to lead you back to lost immortality and  to heaven. Miracles had happen with Abraham when he had no covenant with God so miracles are not bound by a specific religion.

   Our quest will start with the First book of Adam and Eve that has something very interesting into Third Chapter.  Basically Third Chapter explains that Word of God will come to save humanity in year 5500 from Creation. Lets look at Chapter Number III:

Here is a link to Chapter III of book of Adam and Eve:
http://ftp.fortunaty.net/com/sacred-texts/bib/fbe/fbe008.htm

   “Chapter III

   Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days
   God said to Adam ,”I have ordained on this earth days and years, and thou and thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created thee, and against which thou hast transgressed, the Word that made thee come out of the garden, and then raised thee when thou wast fallen. Yea, the Word that will again save  thee when the five and a half are fulfilled.”
   But when Adam heard these words from God, and that great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them.
   For Adam was thinking that there  would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world.
   And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him.
   Then God in His mercy for Adam His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his seed.
   But God had before that made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, ere he came out of the garden, and gave him to eat.”

   So , according with this book, we know that salvation of Adam and humanity will take place in year 5500 from Creation. Since death and expulsion from Heaven were the problems of humanity, I believe that salvation means here regaining of immortality and entrance to Heaven.
   “ Yea, the Word that will again save  thee when the five and a half are fulfilled”

So there are some questions:

   Who will save humanity?
   Word of God. See Genesis 15:1 too or Zechariah 12:1

   When the humanity will be saved?
   In year 5500 from Creation.

   What do we know about Word of God?
   Based on this book we know that Word of God created Adam “ when I shall send the Word that created thee”. So Word of God lived at the time of Creation and will live at the year 5500 when will save humanity .

   Do we know anything about Word of God from Bible
   All new Testament speaks about Jesus that tells everybody that he is Word of God.
   John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

   Do we know anything about Word of God from Old Testament?

   Yes for example in Genesis 15:1 Word of God appears to The Patriarch Abraham in a dream and promised him a number of descendents like the numbers of the stars.

GEN 15:1 After these things the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Don't be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward."
This is Jesus, Word of God that came to Abram in a vision.
   In many places we meet Word of God that is Messiah, many places in Old Testament.

   ZECH 12:1 An oracle. The word of Yahweh concerning Israel. Yahweh, who stretches out the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him says:

Again , Jesus, or Word of God is presented in Zecharias 12:1. As in Book of Adam and Eve, Word of God is presented as having a very important role in creation.

   Who is Word of God

   Word of God is part of ONE GOD thus God. If for example you see Johny's hand, you're not saying Johny's hand what are you doing, you call Johny. This is why Word of God being part of ONE God is God and can be Worshiped.

   People not believing that Word of God Genesis 15:1 exists or that Spirit of God , Genesis 1:2 , that is part of God too, exists , they contradict Old Testament or Tanakh. You can not believe in Old Testament that writes about Word of God in Genesis 15:1 and in other places and then say Word of God does not exists.

   What can we deduct from here?
   That salvation may not exist before year 5500. That all religious leaders before 5500 did not bring salvation and eternal life. Also we know that all religious leaders that have started a religion after year 5500 may not bring salvation. That I believe includes eternal life.
   We can deduct more. We can deduct that all people not belonging to the religion started in year 5500 from Creation , while in comma or near death experience may visit Hell.


   Now we have to ask the following questions:
   Was anybody in our history declaring to be Word of God?
   When did he came on Earth?

   The only person in the Universe declaring to be Word of God was Jesus and according with the Septuagint he came in year 5500 from Creation.
   To date creation the book that came into mind is The Old Testament. However there are two versions that give different dates of creation and two dates of when year 5500 have occurred. Because most of early Church writers used the Septuagint, the other version being used starting with more than 800 years later, we will want to use Septuagint in our calculation. According with Septuagint , creation has started in around year 5500BC. That is , according with Septuagint , Jesus had come in year 5500 from Creation. The meaning of name Jesus is “The Lord is the Savior”.

   According with Masoretic texts, and with Bibles based on Masoretic texts found on some Protestant denominations , salvation, that is eternal life and entrance to heaven should have happen in year 1500BC. However nothing of such nature happen and nobody claiming to be Word of God came at that time.

   So, we have arrived at the conclusion that the best way of finding eternal life is to look at the work of Jesus and at Christianity.

   Was eternal life available before Jesus?

   To respond to this question we can take a look to old religions that were started before year 5500 from Creation.

   Ancient Greek

   In ancient Greek religion souls would go after death in the underworld . Based on ancient Greek religion, nothing is specified about eternal life or entrance to heaven. Underworld by containing a place to punishment, I believe we can probably make the assumption that it is not heaven. This is what some ancient Greeks may have expect to happen before Christianity.

   Ancient Roman

   In ancient Roman religion the place of the souls of dead people was also the underworld.

   Judaism

   According with Wikipedia for the word Sheol the following is the belief: In Judaism She'ol is the earliest conception of the afterlife in the Jewish Scriptures. It is a place of darkness to which all dead go regardless of the moral choices made in life and where they are "removed from the light of God" (see the Book of Job).
   
   I hope you understand the “regardless of the moral choices made in life” part. That is good or bad , direction Hell. Hell or Hades or Sheol for sorcerers is worst, named Tartarus.

   Keep in mind that most Eastern Religions, rei ki, tai ki, yoga, Hinduism are witchcraft. And these religions give you a chance to worst part of Hell . Yoga and Hinduism have in their Holy Book , magic. Mantrik in Sanskrit means sorcerer or magician and from here comes mantra. Sure yoga does not mention what it means when it teaches you to do mantras. The demons of yoga and Hinduism lure you with a good concern for your health, lure you with some wisdom to attract into Tartarus .

   Reading the descriptions of Hinduists that came from near death experience , to one of them the legs were cut from under the knees . So very disturbing stories from Hell. So people doing yoga, budhism, rei ki, tai ki, if Hell is not something you would like as destination, stop right now. http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6726

 For bad  and for good people Sheol is not the same. Huge difference however, still Sheol not heaven.

   I believe that Old Judaism of the Prophets does not exist anymore. New Judaism sees Old Testament through two new other books and Christianity sees Old Testament through New Testament book. New holy book = new religion.


   Christianity


   The souls departs from body, where is he going?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyBDs8JpEa8
Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion, and in other religions beside CHRISTIANITY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
Where you can get after being baptized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM&feature=related

   Orthodox Christianity is the right denomination. No other denomination, no other religion comes closer and this is WHY GOD sends Holy Light form Heaven every year only to orthodox Christians. Once I wanted to become Protestant and I was praying to God to show me which of the 30 000 Protestant denominations is the right one. A thought came, Orthodox Christianity is the best way of salvation and this is why I am sending the Holy Light to them. As a believer in God you are requested to put your hope in God. Pray this:

“Dear God please force me to salvation and please give me an understanding of  all religions on the Earth.”


   Christianity is not the same, protestantism for example having renounced the food for eternal life, Holy Communion, John 6:54, replacing it with symbols, meal for remembrance, words, nothing, so if eternal life is IMPORTANT for you, orthodox Christian is your name. Since this book is about eternal life, is important to describe this.

JN 6:53 Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves.
JN 6:54 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
See, the above verses are a blow to Protestantism. So Holy Eucharist is necessary for ETERNAL LIFE. Yes, Holy Eucharist from ORTHODOX CHURCH. However Protestantism dares replace it with a simple food, with symbols, words or NOTHING.

JN 6:56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me, and I in him.
See, this is it. People are coming from mud and from God. Through Holy Eucharist , Word of God is coming into you and you get closer to God . God is going to live in you and you will get ETERNAL LIFE.

   So, why in the world would want somebody to run to Protestantism that replace this Holy Communion , this chance of man to be closer to God, with NOTHING or WORDS or meal of remembrance?

   According with Christianity Word of God had come in year 5500 from Creation and he had given salvation to people as the book of Adam and Eve said.

John 1 is the place where Jesus is presented as being the Word of God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

   Now we have an excellent book named Gospel of Nicodemus. This is a link to this book: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/gospelnicodemus.html
   Here we see the chapter regarding the descent of Jesus in Hell. Two people, dead hundreds years before Jesus came, were in Sheol at the time of Jesus descent and they tell their story, what had happen in Hell when Jesus descended, in the work named Gospel of Nicodemus. This story is in the last part named “The descent into Hell”.

   In this description, Seth , the son of Adam has described what Archangel Michael had told him while he was praying to get some oil from the Garden of Heaven:
   “And I say unto thee, Seth, vex not thyself with tears, praying and entreating for the oil of the tree of mercy, that thou mayest anoint thy father Adam for the pain of his body: for thou wilt not be able to receive it save in the last days and times, save when five thousand and five hundred (al. 5,952) years are accomplished: then shall the most beloved Son of God come upon the earth to raise up the body of Adam and the bodies of the dead, and he shall come and be baptized in Jordan. And when he is come forth of the water of Jordan, then shall he anoint with the oil of mercy all that believe on him, and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal. Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”

In the end of this paragraph we see that Jesus will bring:
   - eternal life
      -”and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal.”
   - entrance to heaven
      -”Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”   

   From the discussion that emerges we see who is the author of sickness and that some souls escaped Hell by prayers to God. Since this is not our focus we go forward.

   So in Hell we find David, Isaiah, Adam, Eve, Seth, Patriarchs and Holy Men:
   “he cried out to Seth his son, saying: Declare unto thy sons the patriarchs and the prophets


   So what does it mean. It means that even if people were exceedingly righteous like David, Isaiah and Patriarchs and Prophets, this was not enough to go to Heaven. So before year 5500 probably there was not much salvation for people. Now things are certainly different even for people in Hell.

   In gospel of Nicodemus, one man had said that he saw Jesus telling his disciples:

   “Go into all the world and preach unto every creature (the whole creation): he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned”

   So we see that according with the Gospel of Nicodemus, once the year 5500 had come, disbelief in the Word of God can bring condemnation.

   This is what we find in the New Testament, so even people that believe Jesus is Prophet and believe in the Book of Bible should pay attention to this:

JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
   I don't say I understand the exact meaning of John 3:5 . What John 3:5 may say is that without baptism people can have trouble entering the Kingdom of God or Heaven and this may explain why David and Isaiah and Abraham were into hell when Jesus came. I can not explain as to why Enoch and Elijah entered heaven, maybe they were baptized  by Word of God in heaven.

   If you believe that just by your work you are fine, think if you are cleaner than Isaiah that spoke with God or better than David the Prophet. Above all these qualities you need baptism to enter Heaven and Holy Communion to have eternal life.

   Word of God, Christianity and Salvation

   Where are the teachings of the Word of God recorded?

   The teachings of Word of God are recorded in a book called New testament. Regarding entrance to heaven we have John 3:5 in my understanding is stating that without baptism, one can not see the Kingdom of Heaven.

   It occurs to me the declaration of one Christian from a mixed village with many Muslims and Christians and while he visited Heaven he saw just one former Muslim. He asked Jesus why the Muslim was there and Jesus said that this Muslim asked for Jesus to come on his dead bed and he asked  Jesus to take him like the Thief on the Cross.

   So we see that Word of God links seeing the Kingdom of God by being baptized.

   Word of God and eternal life

   Eternal life , the purpose of this book , is specifically described in the New Testament in John chapter 6 in versed 6:53-54. Basically people are asked to eat the Holy Eucharist for eternal life.
   People are made from mud and from God. They can go into 2 directions, either toward mud through death and disobedience either to God through Holy Eucharist. John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist , eternal life is restored to people and people will move toward God and immortality . John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist God will dwell within man thus man will obtain eternity.
   
   Eternal life in Early Church

   From early Church writings we know that on Sundays,  Christians celebrated Holy Liturgies centered on Holy Eucharist for eternal life. This was made clear into Holy Liturgy. It was not Eucharist for remembrance but for eternal life.
   We have the Holy Liturgy of Apostle James believed to be written in year 60 and Holy Liturgy of Apostle and Evangelist Matthew and Holy Liturgies of many apostles , all centered not on sermon, not on living well and doing good that alone can not move you to heaven but on Holy Eucharist for eternal life.


   Today in Orthodox Church , established by Jesus in year 33, we have the same Holy Liturgies centered on giving Eucharist for eternal life. Teachings of Christianity were given by Word of God and Orthodox Christianity is recognized for keeping these teachings unaltered. As a recognition of this, Holy Light miracle comes yearly to the celebration of Easter done by Eastern Orthodox Christians on the exact place of Jesus resurrection. Other miracles that happens yearly , inherited from Early Church are: Jordan river returning to origins on the day of baptism of Jesus , on the exact place were Jesus was baptized. It is said that on the day of the baptism of Jesus, nature recognized him as the Word of God and the river Jordan bowed down flowing backward to origins. There are countless other miracles that happen today in Eastern orthodox Church from Early Church including the annual apparition of cloud on Mount Tabor on the day of transfiguration.

   Eternal Life in Protestant Churches

   For 1000 years maybe Protestants ancestors were in Orthodox Church. Then several hundred years they come to Roman Catholic Church and several hundred years to new invention called Protestantism. So coming back to Eastern Orthodox Church means coming home, to the Home Church.
   Appearing after 1500 looks like protestant Churches have replaced Holy Eucharist for eternal life with symbols, words, a meal for remembrance instead of Holy Eucharist for eternal life, words or nothing. If eternal life is important for you and you don't want to gamble with it, maybe the Eucharist given by the Eastern Orthodox Church is the SAFEST way to obtain it.
   
   Conclusion

   As a conclusion I believe that eternal life is neither in the fountain of youth , neither in a miraculous object, but is in the Eastern Orthodox Church nearby. Sometime you can find eternal life by crossing the street and receiving Holy Eucharist. However, we should never forget that entrance to heaven may be considered based on baptism.
   Where eternal life is , is surely known by God so don't hesitate to say this:
   Dear God , please force me to salvation, eternal life and heaven and open my understanding of all religions on the Earth.









































APPENDIX


Appendix A
This is maybe one of the most important information you get in your life so please pay attention and understand it.
Lets start with this again:
The souls departs from body, where is he going?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyBDs8JpEa8
Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
Where you can get after being baptized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM&feature=related

JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
Life on Earth does have a meaning. Basically is one more chance to correct the choice made by Adam and Eve. It is one more chance to get out of prison or jail Hell, Hades or Sheol. Also is one more chance to escape death and to eat from the tree of eternal life. Eastern Orthodox Christianity offers you both.

   Through Baptism Eastern Orthodox Christianity gives you a change to get out of Hell into Heaven. John 3:5
   Through food for eternal life , Holy Communion described in John 6:54 ,  you can get back IMMORTALITY lost in Garden of Eden. You may not find Holy Communion for eternal life in  Protestantism, being replaced by symbols , a simple meal for remembrance , words or nothing. Protestant denominations that have something that externally looks like Holy Communion tell you directly that is a symbol and a meal for remembrance.
   If you did not made the right choice YET and don't plan to be baptized, then God have mercy on you even if you are as virtuous as King David and spoke with God as many times as prophet Isaiah. Without baptism, both prophet David and prophet Isaiah together with Abraham and Patriarchs were found in Sheol that is Hell.
   If you did make the right choice and have been baptized and have taken food for eternal life or Holy Communion, then it is good for you to keep fighting to got o Heaven in good standing condition and to make for you a situation in heaven.
   Fighting is the right word because you have many terrific opponents, the sick angels, former good angels appointed by God to help people . They are so powerful , that smallest of them can break down the Earth.
   You can scream they can scream louder. You can run, they can run faster. You can think they can outsmart you. So basically much of what you can do, they can do better.
   From Gospel of Nicodemus
   “1 And while all the saints were rejoicing, behold Satan the prince and chief of death said unto Hell: Make thyself ready to receive Jesus who boasteth himself that he is the Son of God, whereas he is a man that feareth death, and sayeth: My soul is sorrowful even unto death. And he hath been much mine enemy, doing me great hurt, and many that I had made blind, lame, dumb, leprous, and possessed he hath healed with a word: and some whom I have brought unto thee dead, them hath he taken away from thee.”

   See who is giving dumbness, sickness and others? Sick angel.

   As you see , The sick angel has the power to make people lame, dumb, leprous and possesed by the spirits. Sick. He knows that if you sin, you give him more power. More sin = more power to sick angel to make you dumb, stupid, leprous and with other sicknesses. With sorcery the power given to sick angel is so great that sick angel can take sorcerers alive in Sheol.
   
   So, everything looks lost , sick angel being more powerful than you.

   This is not so. Through the decision in garden of Eden, sick angel has obtained power over people and was successfully raising a wall of forgetfulness between people and God. He knows that once you know about God and ask God for help EVERYTHING is lost for him and you are free.

   So, what do you need to tear down the wall between God and you so you can obtain help in salvation ?
   Simply you just need to pray to God, your Father. There is very bad for man that does put his hope in yourself. In Old testament I believe is said that this man is cursed. Because not tearing down the wall between God and himself and not asking for help through prayer, this man is at the mercy of sick angel that can send to him sickness, dumbness, possession by sick spirits and make his life very miserable.

VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT:

   So, what are the most important things in your life, things that define you: salvation, marriage, the school you follow, the job you are going to have, the salvation of your children, parents, relatives, world, the well being of your country, of Creation.
   If it does not occur to you to pray for these to God, the sick angel may do whatever he wants with every one of them. Don’t fool yourself that this does not happen and that in fact you can choose everything you want for what is the most important to you. No, you can not choose and if you choose without God , sick angel may choose chooses actually for you. The thoughts that “YOU” have and that determine what “YOU” choose , can be yours or come either from God or from sick angel. So not asking God for help in these matters, means leaving sick angel free path tchoose for you. Truly yours are the tears that will follow.
   Every time you are a crossroad, ask God to choose for you and to force go to the way that he know is best for you, every time you have an hardship ask God to solve it for yourself and try not be alone, because alone does not exist, means alone with sick angel.

   1.So right now pray for most important decision that will define you for eternity.
“Dear God, please force me to salvation and to eternal life, force to arrive to heaven for eternity and to be immortal again, and please force me to behave as you can be proud of me”

   2.Do the same for your beloved ones.
   3.Think to the most important decisions that define who you are and what you do on Earth like marriage, job, how you spend time and others. Pray this:
   “Dear God, please help me with my marriage , job , material situation on Earth and on Heaven, please give me the things that you know that I need, please force me to take the decisions that will influence my life in a way that is in my interest and helpful for me. Dear God force to obtain the things that you know I need. Dear God please protect myself and my beloved ones from ANY harm, including my family  and please decide for me in all decisions that I make and force me go after the decisions that are best for me.”

   If you want to marry add: “ Dear God please force me to marry somebody that is good in your eyes and with whom I can have a very good life”.

   If you are married say:” dear God please turn around my marriage into something you like. Please help us with........your problems.........”

   If you are looking for a new job add:” Dear God please give me a very good job.”

   If you feel that your country is not doing well economically or in other way please pray: Dear God please help my country to solve its problems.

   How many times countries have not been saved from famine problems with prayers?

   For any problem you foresee for the hour, day, week add:” Dear God please help me solve the problem that I have in a good way”

   Prayer is so powerful that once I prayed to see an angel. After several days while shopping I saw somebody that looked like a man with hair like a woman and I was asking myself who is he and where is he coming from? Then I realized it may just be the angel I was praying to see. Take an icon of Archangel Gabriel. Give him modern clothes without changing his hair. This is what I saw. It was so out of this world that it had to be an angel.

   You can see God, speak with God through prayer and do other things. God is your father and waiting for you to tear down the wall that separate you and him. He is knocking the door of your soul, so you can pray: dear God please come into my life and take control of my life and put it in order and also please come into my soul.

   So don't put your hope in soccer team winning, in your country, in your team in anything else you can think of including your skills, in Islam, money, power of any kind, protestantism or other religions and organizations. Put your hope in God if you want to be victor and many times you can say, dear God if my cause is right please fight for my cause and win it for me.

This does not mean do no study at all and you'll get only maximum grades. No. Even if SO many times this is what actually had happen.

   Prayer helped Solomon to become the wisest man on Earth and his prayer said by you can help you too. Prayer helped Arsenie Boca to become what he was. He prayed to God to become a very gifted Elder than can help people very much . Prayer can help many people. Giving children to be taken care and raised by God, is a very good idea. Holy Mother of God was a child like that given to God, Elder Cleopa was a child like that, Emperor Constantine was a child like that too.

   If you don't solve the problem with God, somebody else may intervene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DiIpBQQpGc

Regarding the above movie , first girl is in Church and she could have prayed to solve her problems. However sick angel make her think at how righteous she is because she does not have a husband ten years younger and she does not need new hat. Please think about how righteous you are but not pray to solve your problems and get to salvation, may say the sick angel to that lady.

Next is a gentleman that could have prayed so that his company and family problems could be solved.  He is grabbed with imagining what would happen if he would buy a Lexus. The sick angels would say, think at Lexus and do Anything but as long as you are in Church don't pray because prayer may actually solve your problems with the help of God.

Next is a young gentleman that could have been praying so that God would find for him a really good wife in God's eyes. He does not pray , he looks for a wife by himself, putting his hope in his skills of finding a good wife, and he looses the time of prayer , prayer for actually finding the right wife. He  looses that time by imagining what would happen if he would marry the girl near him.

Next is a lady in the church that has problems with her husband watching too much TV. She could have prayed so her problems are solved and her husband turn around. However this does not happen , the sick angel caught her by telling her how righteous she is by not watching soccer and that a righteous person like her should complain much. Sick angel may tell her, complain as much as you want but please, please, please don't pray because your problem may be solved.

Anyhow we should not forget that praying in an Eastern Orthodox Church and listening to sermon is second importance, the most important is to partake FOOD FOR ETERNAL LIFE, Holy Communion that comes from us for 2000 years. Even so, praying is important.

Because the movie above is in Romanian and Russian the plot is this. An elder asks God why God does not respond to people prayers, since they go to Church and pray? God sends an angel and the angel takes him in Church and he can hear prayers but nothing is heard. Then angel discovers the thoughts of everybody. One young lady is commenting why other lady has a new hat. One young man is wondering if he should buy the Lexus. Another young man is wondering why a young girl has a ring on her finger and a woman is upset that his husband is looking to soccer too much. So basically nobody is praying. In the end a small girl in the Church full of people is praying for her father to come out of alcoholism. So, one Church, many people, one prayer from the people.
The movie link again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DiIpBQQpGc

   May God make that nobody lives like the people in the movie, not utilizing the great gift of prayer, at least for salvation if not for something else.

   Once you go to Heaven you may expect to find all richness there, but one woman went there and she found herself naked since she gave no clothes to the poor. She found however a very bad skirt  that she gave it to a poor woman rather than toss it in the garbage. Also she found everything she had  given to the poor , multiplied hundred times over.
   So basically think about what clothes would you like to have in heaven. If you can stay 100 years or more with one pair of clothes you are fine to give one to the poor. Also think at the food. If you can eat over and over the same food, then giving the same food to the poor is OK. Also think if you can live in a tent for years. If not giving a small house to the poor may be advisable and you can get a house 100 times bigger. Now if you give something to the poor and see that the poor loses it don't get upset. Cursing is 100% forbidden in Eastern Orthodox Christianity as praying against the people. Listen to this story.

   An old elder gave his best clothe to a poor person and that person sold it for money and the elder became very very very upset. Then , next night he saw Jesus clothed in his cloth asking why are you upset since I have taken you cloth . So his reward is already in heaven, why is he upset. Another woman had given many things to the poor and she was giving these people bad words. They became upset and while she arrived in heaven and found her goods she could not touch them for the bad words she said. Also, to not lose your goods in heaven, do not boast about them.

Keep in mind what you'll do here:

Matthew 25:
MT 25:31 "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory.
MT 25:32 Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
MT 25:33 He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
MT 25:34 Then the King will tell those on his right hand, 'Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
MT 25:35 for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in.
MT 25:36 I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.'
MT 25:37 "Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink?
MT 25:38 When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you?
MT 25:39 When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?'
MT 25:40 "The King will answer them, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers{The word for "brothers" here may be also correctly translated "brothers and sisters" or "siblings."}, you did it to me.'
MT 25:41 Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels;
MT 25:42 for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink;
MT 25:43 I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'
MT 25:44 "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?'
MT 25:45 "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most certainly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.'
MT 25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Time will come when good deeds will be your ally and will speak for you.
Appendix B
Apologetic for Eastern Orthodox Church

   There are some questions regarding Eastern Orthodox Church.

   Symbolism in Eastern orthodox Church

   Question: Into some icons a skull and bones appear under the cross of Jesus Christ. What is the meaning of the skull and bones.
   Response: I believe the skull and bones signifies death and the overall message is that Crucifixion means victory over death. The fact that other organizations appearing 1000+ years later use the same symbols it does not mean anything for Eastern Orthodox Church.

   Icons in the Church

   Question: Are icons idolatry?
   Response: There are many points here that can be made.

   Idolatry: Before understanding if something may be idolatry we need to define idolatry.
My definition of idolatry means to believe that somebody or something is equal or above God.
So idolatry is not about external behavior is about internal belief.
   See, for example if a boy kneels in front of a girl, is not idolatry since the boy does not believe that girl is above or equal with God. Kneeling in front of a girl is a sign of respect and love not idolatry.    Kissing the picture of a mother is not idolatry since mother is not above or equal with God . However   kissing the picture of a mother is a sign of love. On the same level, bowing in front of an icon or kissing an icon is not idolatry since nobody believes that an icon is equal or above God.

   In Eastern Orthodox Christianity nobody and nothing is equal or above God so there is impossible of having idolatry. Impossible.

   Kissing an icon is a sign of respect and love for the saints or God depicted in the icon.

   Can icons be used in Temples or Churches?
   Well, there are two interpretations of the 10 Laws.

   One interpretation says that people are not allowed to have ANY image made by men and that by doing so people border idolatry. The interesting fact is that denominations having this interpretation do not respect it. You see these denominations having TV programs, publishing RELIGIOUS magazines WITH PICTURES of things above Earth and so on. So they say we believe in something we don't respect anyhow but we consider that you should respect it.

   This interpretation has great problems with God ordering people of Old Law to have cherubim on the temple 1 King 6:23-24 and angels on the ark of covenant. We see God approving the Temple, in 1 King 9:23 , even if the Temple had images on its walls .  This interpretation can not explain why Apostle Luke was a known painter of icons that are kept even today, and can not explain why Jesus put his face on a napkin that he sent to the King Abgar of Edessa so he was cured of leprosy. This napkin with image of God is like an icon. Also this image cured leprosy, so this was a miracle working icon and was displayed on a gate for entering the city. http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/lettersJesusAbgarus.htm

   Another interpretation says that is Ok to have images on temple doors and images however you should not consider these images to be above or equal with God thus idols. Under this interpretation any icon is Ok as long as it is not considered above or equal with God.

   However there is something more into it. The Bible has two parts, the Old Testament and the New Testament. In the Old Testament is the Old Law WITHOUT salvation power and in the New testament is the New Law with salvation power. These Laws are distinct:
   -in Old Law you are people of God in New Law you are children of God and asked to call God Father. Baptism is dying as child of Adam and becoming child of God born of God, Holy Spirit in baptism. As child of God you are allowed to see Heaven. Do you understand? As child of Adam, every religion beside Christianity may not see heaven. As child of God, born of God through baptism, you can see Heaven.
   -in Old Law you are circumcised that means flesh belongs to God. In new Law you are baptized that means flesh and soul belongs to God
   -in Old Law people were not allowed to see God and paint God, in New Law children of God were allowed to see God and to paint God in icons

   See, before Old Law there was Noahide Law that was supposed to be without ending for Normal people. When Moses came and made people as people of God, they had the Old Law renouncing entirely to Noahide Law. It was not 50% Noahide, 50% Old Law or 10% Noahide and 90% Old Law. It was 100% Old Law.
   Now, when people become Children of God, the Old Law does not apply to them at all, neither 10 commandments, neither Saturday, neither circumcision, neither nothing out of Old Law.

   Yes Noahide Law may have something wise in it and Old Law may have something wise into it, however these laws have not salvation power, they offer NO ETERNAL LIFE and NO ENTRANCE to HEAVEN, and they are not supposed to be followed at all by Christians.

   So to say God ordered people to do that is not enough. Are you referring to people of God to which applies Old Law or are you referring to children of God to which applies New Law.

   To ask why people of God do not respect New Law or why children of God do not respect the Old Law has the following answer. Because they are not supposed to.

   Lets say a comparison, lets compare normal people with 3rd graders, people of God with 8th graders and children of God with Phds or doctoral degrees. Lets compare Noahide Laws with the eternal regulations for 3rd graders, the Moses Laws with the eternal regulations for 8th graders and New Laws with eternal regulations for Phds.

   In 3rd grade you are supposed to follow 3rd grade rule, the Noahide laws. Then you advance to 8th grade by circumcision becoming people of God from normal people and here you are supposed to respect the Moses Laws with Saturday and flesh eating restrictions. Then you advance even more to Phd by baptism and becoming child of God , so you get eternal life and entrance to heaven and here you are supposed to follow the NEW LAW. To say that somebody going to 8th grade should follow 3rd grade regulations is nonsense, and in the same sense is nonsense to ask a Christian to respect Old Testament percepts.

   History: From an historical point of view we see images like icons used in the Judaic temples.
Actually God ordered people in Old Law to have cherub on the walls of the temple. We see Jesus sending to King Abgarus his face, http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/lettersJesusAbgarus.htm , God's face on a napkin, we see Apostle Luke as a very talented painter of icons, then we see all the Early Church   venerating icons. The we see Protestantism departing from Church tradition and leaving NEW LAW's, food for eternal life and going straight to OLD LAW that has NO salvation power and getting either Saturday celebration and mixing Old Law with New Law. Also we see them raising against icons, against what Apostle and Evangelist Luke did. This does not make sense.

   Question: Are icons worshiped?
   Answer: For something or somebody to be worshiped means to be considered equal or above God. If anything or anybody is below God, then everything you do it can not be worshiping. Icons are below God so they can not be worshiped. Using incense near icons is a sign of veneration like in the Judaism, incense was used for the arc of the Covenant .

   Question: Because Christianity allows eating of more animal flesh, is in any way Christianity inferior to other religions not allowing that?
   Response: Before flood people were not allowed to eat any flesh. Are we going to imply that they had a better religion than everybody because they did not eat any flesh? No. They may not had at that time entrance to heaven and Eternal life and salvation since year 5500 had not arrived.

   Question: Many things held true by Christianity are not in the Bible. According with our principle of Sola Scriptura we will not consider these.
   Response: Well, Martin Luther, Calvin, Johny and White are not in the Bible so according with Sola Scriptura principle they are not necessary for salvation. Protestantism is not in the Bible, the Reform is not in the Bible and according with Sola Scriptura you should not listen to it. Because you believe that if something not in Bible is not necessary for salvation, then protestantism is not in Bible so according with Sola Scriptura it is not necessary for salvation so you can come home, to eastern orthodox Church, the Church of your forefathers. So if you do not respect your principle don't ask us to respect every principle you don't respect.

   Sola Scriptura is this. Out of 1 billion valid historical documents , Sola Scriptura takes everything and throws it out of the window keeping just Bible. Then everything that is not found in the Bible is built based on imagination and because imagination is different you have 30 000 different pictures of reality, 30 000 of protestant denominations that flagrantly contradict many valid historical documents, documents that are recording beliefs of Early Church. To be understood better, think what would happen with history if all the valid historical document will be thrown away and just the writings of Herodotus will be kept, and everything will be built on imagination having 30 000 different histories contradicting each other. Do you see what kind of thing is asking Protestantism from Eastern orthodoxy? To throw away valid historical documents and to believe imagination. In almost all debates orthodoxy versus protestantism are debates between valid historical documents and imagination.

   Ok, lets say I am an history teach and today I am going to teach you about Columbus discovering America. But I am going to teach you following Sola Herodotus. That is I am taking all historical documents and throw them on window and I am keeping just the works of Herodotus, the Father of History.

   So based on Herodotus nothing I can find out about Columbus so I let my imaginations fly. So Columbus bought 20 passenger planes from King of France . And he flew them and landed on a airport built by Amerindian people. Why are you laughing?  This is Sola Herodotus. This is like protestantism.And he took his people on motorcycles and two SUV's and went far into America. What? It does not contradict Herodotus  writings and anything else you're going to show me I am not going to consider. Because is not in the Herodotus and thus is not necessary  for history.

   So if Sola Herodotus does not work, Sola Scriptura works worst than that. If you don't believe Columbus went with passenger plane , then you are safe not believing Protestant stories.

Take for example icons. There are icons painted by Apostle and Evangelist Luke in Orthodox monasteries, however Protestantism speaks against icons, speaks against the work of Apostle and Evangelist Luke.

Appendix C Miracles

A religion is not a University. Is not giving only wisdom , it operates above wisdom and anything that can be discovered by science. So a religion needs to have miracles. So what miracles does the Christianity have? What miracles has Eastern orthodox Christianity has?

Every aspect of Jesus life in the New testament is accompanied by miracles:

1. Easter is the victory of death over life. On Easter day, in Eastern orthodox Christianity, Holy Light is descending from God, in front of people, on the exact place where Jesus was resurrected. Holy Light comes in the Church built on his sepulcher. This is similar with the column of Light that lead Jews into the desert.

Here is an article about Holy light: http://www.holyfire.org/eng/
Here is a movie about Holy Light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99xvNIydfvQ
Even if many christian confessions have tried to get Holy light, it come only to Eastern Orthodox Christianity showing the truth of this faith.

2.Baptism allows people to see Heaven. When Jesus was baptized, nature showed submission for Word of God and bowed down with holy Jordan river flowing backward while Jesus was baptized. Year after year this miracle happen even in our times. Here is an movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfmrqZwUjCQ

3.The cloud on Mount Tabor.

Every year on transfiguration day a cloud comes on Mount Tabor. I have seen a picture with this cloud .

4.The skeletons in Egypt

I read that on the time of Bright week, when Jesus had victory over death, in Egypt, near pyramids skeletons come away from Earth and stay in vertical position until the Thursday of Bright week, when Jesus finishing his salvation work and assumed to heaven. I have no picture or movies yet about this miracle.

1+2+3+4 are yearly miracles.

5. Holy water.

Here you see pictures with the actual water structure transformation through the blessing prayer, so it become Holy water. Incredible how prayer can change water structure.
http://stmaryofstamford.org/holywater.html


6. Saints appearing after death, doing miracles after death, moving mountains, having uncorrupted bodies and many more.

Many Easter orthodox Christians can tell you about saints helping through intercession. The Ladder to Heaven dreamed by patriarch in Old testament while sleeping is in Eastern Orthodox Christianity.

Holy Mother of God does many many many miracles.
"The Miracle in Syria"


Compiled by Archimandrite Nektarios Serfes, Boise, Idaho USA

ORTHODOX PATRIARCHAL CONVENT OF VIRGIN MARY

   In December 2004 a Saudi Arabian man, a Moslem, appeared before several new agencies to relate the following incredible event he experienced and which changed his life (this story appeared on TV, the Internet, radio, and was circulated in newspapers, magazines, and pamphlets throughout Saudi Arbia, Syria, Palestine, and evidently in all neighboring countries.

   Some years ago, this man married a very rich Moslem woman but sterile. As the years passed, and despite all their efforts and significant medical expenses with many doctors, they remained childless. The man's parents suggested to him that he marry a second woman, while upholding his initial marriage (as the local laws permits up to four concurrent marriages).

   Being exhausted, worried, and downhearted, he did not accept his parents' advice but rather chose to vacation with his wife in Syria. There, they hired a limousine with a driver who would serve as tour guide fro all their site-seeing excursions throughout Syria. As the vacation progressed, the driver noticed that the Saudi Arabian couple was experiencing bitterness, pain, and grief. Having gained familiarity with the couple, the driver cautiously asked them whey they appeared to be so unhappy-was it perhaps because he was not conducting the tour to their satisfaction?

   The couple confided to the driver that the source of their unhappiness was their inability to have children. The driver who was also a Moslem, then told them that in Syria the Christians, specifically the Orthodox Christians, have a monastery named Panagia Saidraya (Arabic word meaning Our Lady) and that many people who can't have children take refuge to Her miracle-producing icon. They go to the monastery and there they are given to eat, the wick form the lamp which burns before the miraculous icon. And then the "Mary" of the Christians gives them according to their faith, what they wish for.

   Becoming excited, the Saudi Arabian and his wife asked the driver to take them to the monastery "Saidnaya" of "The Lady of the Christians" and said that if we have a child, then I will come back and I will give you $20,000.00 US and, I will give the monastery $80,000 US. So they went to the monastery and did as they were instructed. Later they returned to their homeland and after some time the wife was found pregnant. In a few months she gave birth to a charming baby boy. It was truly a miracle of Our Lady Theotokos.

   Now, as soon as his wife gave birth the Saudi Arabian man wanted to return to Syria to uphold the promises he had made. Upon his return he called the same driver and asked to be picked up at the Damascus airport. But the driver was cunning and wicked and he persuaded two of his friends to go to the airport with him to pick up the rich Saudi Arabian man and to take his money and kill him. So they picked up the rich man at the airport and he, as they drove, without realizing that they had planned to kill him, told the friends of the driver that he would give them also $10,000 US each.

   These men still not satisfied, deviated from the route to the monastery and went to a deserted place and proceeded to slay the Saudi Arabian man and to cut off his head and other parts (hands and legs) of his body into pieces. Blinded by passion and overcome by the horrific act that they just committed, they put the man's remains in the trunk of the car rather than just leaving him there. After taking his money, watch, and all that he had, they proceeded to find another deserted place to discard the remains.

   Then on the National highway, their car broke down and stopped in the middle of that road. The three men got out to determine why the engine had stalled. Then a passerby stopped to help them but they, afraid that their terrible act would be discovered, pretended that they did not need any help. But as the passerby motorist was leaving, he noticed blood dripping from the rear of the vehicle and he called the police to investigate because the scene and the three men looked suspicious. The police came and they saw the blood under the car and on the pavement so they ordered that the trunk be opened.

   Well, when the opened the trunk, lo and behold, the Saudi Arabian man lifted himself out, obviously and amazingly alive and in good health, saying to them "Just now this PANAGIA finished stitching my neck, right here (showing them the area of his Adam's Apple), after first stitching up the rest of my entire body". Seeing this, the three criminals immediately lost their minds-becoming like mad. The police handcuffed them and as they were being taken away to an asylum for the insane, the criminals started raving that it could not be possible that the Saudi Arabian man whom they killed, beheaded, and dissected could yet be alive.

   The Saudi Arabian went to a medical facility to undergo examination by doctors and medical examiners who confirmed and attested that the stitching was done very recently, thereby validating the miraculous event. The stitches were, and still are, obvious. When the Saudi Arabian came out of the car's trunk, he had the appearance, literally, of just having been refabricated (put back together) to which he continuously confessed that they PANAGIA had rejoined his body and resurrected him with the help of her Son.

   Immediately after this, the Saudi Arabian called his relatives to come to Syria and they all went together to the monastery of Panagia Saidnaya and offered up prayers, praises, and glorification, and instead of the initial gift of $80,000 US (which was promised), he gave $800,000 US to the Theotokos.

   Today, as this man relates the details of that overwhelming miracle, he starts his narration with "When I was a Moslem this happened to me" this indicating he is not longer a Moslem, as neither is his family.

   This miracle stunned with awesome surprise the entire Arabic/Moslem nation and all of the Middle East. ”

Saint Spiridon have incorruptible body, he is like sleeping and many times his body is missing and his shoes are to be changed every year since they become worn out.
Here is an account:
http://www.bucharestherald.ro/dailyevents/41-dailyevents/17988-21st-century-miracle-st-spyridon-the-saint-who-leaves-his-tabernacle-to-go-help-people?tmpl=component&print=1&page=
Saint Mark have moved Mountains. Saint Parascheva has also many miracles. Arsenie Boca has so many miracles, incredible. There are several inspiring books that tell about his miracles.

Many many miracles:
The Icon of Holy Mother of God blinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTrojZJmk18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6eQLLjwS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFHVhhwgq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGUJ9AgKAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C_8bI_t4A

An account of Miracles of Saints:
http://www.orthodox.net/stnicholas/stnicholas3miracles.html
http://www.saint-spyridon.com/archive_spyridon.htm
http://saintjohnwonderworker.org/visitors_book_2008.htm
http://www.pigizois.net/latreia/paraklitikoi_kanones/m_e_f_karditsas_ag_minas/agglika/thaumata_ag_mina.htm
http://full-of-grace-and-truth.blogspot.com/2009/10/miracles-of-st-demetrios-myrrh-streamer.html


Eastern Orthodox Christianity has most miracles and most powerful ones being the right way. Other religions have miracles too. To say there are no miracles outside Eastern orthodox Christianity is to say there were no miracles in Old Testament which is no right. Jesus name drives away sick angels for every man of every confession. However let not forget, the means are to get baptized so you can get into Heaven and to get food for eternal life, Holy Communion , that you can find in Eastern orthodox Church.


Anything interesting that people should know?
Well, people dying after having Holy Communion may go straight to heaven having God in themselves. Same thing with people dying on bright week since skies are open. Also this book http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_nt/histjoe.htm  says on point 26 that whomever writes it will have the book of the sins erased and many other good things, as a gift of Jesus in honour of his Father Joseph. Also I read that by having a candle burning in front of an icon for one day you have one day in Heaven.

The orthodox Christian came to the wise man and said:
I teach my children in a good school.
The wise man wrote an 0.
Orthodox Christian said: I send my children to the best sports and I train them to be healthy:
The wise man put another 0 in front of it.
Orthodox Christian said: I teach my children to work hard.
The wise man put another 0 .
Orthodox Christian said: I teach my children to avoid stealing.
The wise man put another 0.
Orthodox Christian said: I teach my children to stop being lazy.
The wise man put another 0.
The Orthodox Christian man said: I give my children baptism for entering Heaven and food for eternal life.
The wise man smiled and put an 1 in front of so many 0's. He said: Without life and entrance to heaven, these qualities are 0's. Only by having eternal life and by entering the Heaven , children will be able to enjoy the qualities you are looking for.


Other interesting books:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16409335/Evadarea-Din-Iad  - in romanian language
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24991031/Sf-Nicolae-Velimirovici-Razboiul-Si-Biblia2 – in romanian language, The war and the Bible
http://www.scribd.com/doc/28785019/Parintele-Arsenie-Boca-Marturii  Arsenie Boca Memories – romanian language
http://www.crestinortodox.ro/carti-ortodoxe/ne-vorbeste-parintele-cleopa/o-istorioara-cu-femeile-care-fac-avorturi-81167.html  romanian Cleopa stories book. Abortion can be forgiven to confession at an Orthodox Priest
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bct/index.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_nt/histjoe.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_nt/narjoe.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_nt/reptpilt.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/theGospelOfTheNativityOfMary.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/infancyall.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/nicodemus.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/lettersJesusAbgarus.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/adamnev.htm
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm
http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr?lang=eng
http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr?lang=eng
http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/1007.htm
http://www.crestinortodox.ro/carti-ortodoxe/marii-initiati-indiei-parintele-paisie/
Miracles:
http://www.saint-spyridon.com/archive_spyridon.htm
http://www.sfantaparascheva.com/minuni.php   Romanian
http://saintjohnwonderworker.org/visitors_book_2008.htm


Movies:
The souls departs from body, where is he going?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyBDs8JpEa8
Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
Where you can get after being baptized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM&feature=related
How to pray in Church. Praying in an Eastern Orthodox Church and listening to sermon is second importance, the most important is to partake FOOD FOR ETERNAL LIFE, Holy Communion that comes from us for 2000 years. Even so, praying is important too so how to pray?
Because the movie is in Romanian and Russian the plot is this. An elder asks God why God does not respond to people prayers, since they go to Church and pray? God sends an angel and the angel takes him in Church and he can hear prayers but nothing is heard. Then angel discovers the thoughts of everybody. One young lady is commenting why other lady has a new hat. One young man is wondering if he should buy the Lexus. Another young man is wondering why a young girl has a ring on her finger and a woman is upset that his husband is looking to soccer too much. So basically nobody is praying. In the end a small girl in the Church full of people is praying for her father to come out of alcoholism. So, one Church, many people, one prayer from the people.
http://www.youtube
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Movies:
The souls departs from body, where is he going?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyBDs8JpEa8
Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-VlJnDvuw
Where you can get after being baptized:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxU3LDDMeaM&feature=related
How to pray in Church. Praying in an Eastern Orthodox Church and listening to sermon is second importance, the most important is to partake FOOD FOR ETERNAL LIFE, Holy Communion that comes from us for 2000 years. Even so, praying is important too so how to pray?
Because the movie is in Romanian and Russian the plot is this. An elder asks God why God does not respond to people prayers, since they go to Church and pray? God sends an angel and the angel takes him in Church and he can hear prayers but nothing is heard. Then angel discovers the thoughts of everybody. One young lady is commenting why other lady has a new hat. One young man is wondering if he should buy the Lexus. Another young man is wondering why a young girl has a ring on her finger and a woman is upset that his husband is looking to soccer too much. So basically nobody is praying. In the end a small girl in the Church full of people is praying for her father to come out of alcoholism. So, one Church, many people, one prayer from the people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DiIpBQQpGc
The Icon of Holy Mother of God blinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTrojZJmk18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6eQLLjwS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFHVhhwgq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGUJ9AgKAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C_8bI_t4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72yJhlMjFBo


APPENDIX D:
The story of the book:
   One day I was reading a news paper, about a man that was a known apologist of his faith. He used mostly Internet and the new technologies. Reading it I said, well, this sounds very good. But that was not all. An internal voice told me, you are actually going to be like him. It was hard for me to believe this bun anyhow time went on.
   Years have passed by and I had a fellow at my job doing some kind of eastern religion that I was aware is dangerous, most of eastern religions being witchcraft disguised in health promotion. So I was uneasy considering him a friend and letting him dwelling in witchcraft and collecting future tears was not something I would consider right. More than that, I heard an internal voice saying, if you don’t try to help him you will die. So I knew I had to start doing something.  So I wanted to speak with him about Eastern Orthodox Christianity but I realized that with what I have I could not convince me about the truth of Eastern Orthodox Christianity , if I would not be Eastern Orthodox Christian. So fortunately I started praying, dear God please give me enough information so I can build a strong case for Eastern Orthodox Christianity and please also let me know about several miracles because I believe that these are really important. So, I started reading and documenting, anyhow God gave me the right material and in several weeks I had a very strong case for Eastern Orthodox Christianity , strong that I could be convinced to become Eastern Orthodox Christian if I would not be one.
   Time went by and I was an avid reader and debater in religious discussions as I was told years earlier. In the debates I met many problems that gave me no solution and through prayer I found an answer that looked good enough and I believe in concordance with orthodoxy.
   So, this Easter I have heard an internal voice to put this on writing, and this is this book. Everyone is free to print it or translate it , no strings or fees or author rights from my side are attached to it, and may God guide it so it will bring the maximum benefit and salvation to everybody and everyone.
   This book is trying to respond to the question: Where is eternal life in this World?
   May God bless everybody!

The lesson is this. If you know that somebody life is on the line being it an unborn child, jump to it and try to save a life because this situation may happen because possibly your life will be soon on the line and by saving a life, God will be able to save yours.
Also if you can do something good, if you can do something good, something good is waiting to happen for you and by doing good you won’t loose it.

APPENDIX E:
Because this story touches abortion, I need to mention that abortion is forgiven through confession at an orthodox priest. Speaking against abortions and saving the life of unborn children actually helps greater. Many people did clinics anti abortion near abortion clinics and they saved thousands of lifes. This makes a great impact in heaven and at the judgment.

Also is worth mentioning that intra uterine devices can cause abortion and same thing may happen with  contraceptive pills. So these is good to be confessed and stopped.

The Miracles of Elder Arsenie Boca an elder that prayed to God for being a very helpful elder to his fellow citizens. If he would put his faith in himself, he may have not realized much. Like Solomon, through prayer he reached to God and God helped him.

Coming to the monastery, he became a monk and he had the name Arsenie. After a time, the Archbishop send him in Greece, at Athos Mountain to become holy. Coming to the Holy Mountain and knowing nobody, the Father entered a forest and prayed to the Savior to send him a great teacher but he was not listed to. However Father Arsenie remembered that the Savior has a good Mother and he prayed to Holy Mother of God with tears in his eyes, to send him somebody to teach him about being a good monk. And the Father said that Holy Mother of God came and took him by his hand and brought him up to a Mountain between two falls, and it was very scary to look underneath . And the Mountain was very stiff, that it had a place just to put the feet.  And Holy Mother of God put him there and gave him to Saint Seraphim of Sarov to teach him and after that Holy Mother of God disappeared. And then the Father went every day on the top of that Mountain and he was not afraid that he can fall. 40 days he was taught by this Saint. This he had said it to several believers . Holy Mother of God helped him so he could fast for 40 days without interruption. After one year he came to Sambata Monastery with Holy Spirit, with a prophecy gift and with a power, so if he would look at you, you felt like electricity in the soul and became meek. He could see your thinking, he could tell your name, your sins and the things you have done knowing your life.
In Romania and in Europe there is no spiritual Father like him(Fr Petru Vavulescu)
His Mother said that she felt something like having a Light while pregnant and that she was very happy. And Father Arsenie said that his Father, going to US , left him clean while unborn(Fr Petry Vavulescu)
At the beginning, Father Arsenie had a very strict life: he was eating once a day (bread and water) and he slept on the floor. Sometime he would go for a week at the mountain, just with Bible. On Saturday night he would come back to celebrate a Holy Liturgy on next Sunday, and he had many tears while celebrating. It was very hard not to cry at his Holy Liturgy. After celebration he would go back in the Mountain. He had an extraordinary life, of hermit.(Fr Sofonea Ioan)
The Church was always full of Christians , that were coming to ask Father Arsenie for suggestions,. With everyone of these believers , a miracle did happen, sometime known only by them and the Father. Many books would be able to be written if anyone would write down these true stories. Important is however to listen to the advice of the Father Arsenie and to the advice of the Church.(Balan Silvica)
Father Arsenie told us once how did he start the activity at Sambata. It was on Christmas fasting period and he was painting an icon of the SAVIOUR, that he did not finish. In the time he was painting, an internal voice told him: Arsenie don't paint me on icons, because the time its ripe. Go and paint myself in the hearths of the people, through your word. Tell them that problems and suffering are coming against them.
(Fr Sofonea Ioan)
Fr Arsenie Boca:”Many follow Jesus on the Mountain of Happiness , but very few on Golgotha, until the cross. To the cross did go only the love of his Mother and the love of the beloved disciple John.
You life will bring more fruit if you became the disciple of divine love rather than the disciple of love of sins.

We did not wait too much and Father entered into the Church . Once he went to the Alter he looked back and asked who has the biggest problem. Somebody said that this belongs to an old woman paralyzed from middle down. Looking at her, Father Arsenie said, yes she has the worst problem. Do you know aunt, why do you have such problems. The old lady nodded that she does not know. She started crying. Don't cry too much because somebody will take care of you. Do you know whom? And then he showed with his finger to the sky: God. Because this old house is becoming damaged, said Father thinking at the body of man. And you took the sins of George, of John and of Basil, you suffer for these sins.

There was in the crowd a priest from the Land of Fagaras ( from Dragus) and he said. Father I have something to tell you in between 4 eyes. Father Arsenie told him: Not in between 4 eyes but in a loud voice so that everybody is going to understand and you're going to learn one from another.

One mother went with his son of about 18 years at father Arsenie. When she was in the front of the parent, she started praising her child saying :  “Father I have a very good boy. He does not drink, does not smoke, and he does not do bad things with girls. He is very good”. Father, looking at him with a slow voice , smiling :”Yes he is very good”, then in a loud voice” You, should not do fornication with your hand” letting the mother and boy perplexed.

One man of around 50 years old had the face damaged by a chemical substance, nitrogen. He came to the Father to give him a small diptych. Why do you think that you destroyed your face to be disgraceful for everybody? The man stayed in silence. I will tell you why...when you were young you dishonored a lady, however you did not marry her. She remained alone and until this day she is alone and not able to have children being bare since she had an abortion, to avoid the shame of a child without a father, and since then she could not remain with children. You did sin and you made her sin. Now you pay through suffering. The man started crying.

Two women came to Father Arsenie at Draganescu, Once they came Father asked, what do you have in the luggage, and he put his hand in their bag. He took out salami and asked them why they eat salami on the Holy week? He gave the salami to the dogs however neither dog did not ate it. 

Once, a pregnant woman from Sibiu came to father Arsenie , at Draganescu. When he see her, he said, go back soon and make sure you don't loose the train. The women went back angry  thinking as to why did the Father did not speak with her. She arrived home at 1 am, in the night. Once she entered the home the water broke and she called 911 and at 4 a clock she gave birth to a boy she called Ion.
(Maica Glicheria)
Two engineers, husband and wife from the factory I worked, divorced because of the parents. When the woman saw father Arsenie , she started crying and told him her situation, that she divorced because of her parents in love and that she has a daughter and that she does not know what to do. Father Arsenie told her with a smile:” Don't worry, don't cry, because after 7 years you'll come together with your husband. I don't know if the woman did believe him because 7 years are not 7 days or 7 weeks or 7 months, but 7 years. Exactly after 7 years they come together, and today they live in harmony.(Bogdan Juncu)
When the Father was working on a hut on a mountain he had 12 people helping him . One told me that once while climbing a bear appeared to them and they stayed even if they had axles. When the Father came, he went with bare arms to the bear and took his ear and told him” Go down since these people are scared”. And the bear went down.

Once I saw Father Arsenie in the Draganescu Church . He was cleaning a wall with a brush. I said “ You're working hard Father!” And he said: “This is not hard for me. Hard are solving your problems!”(Sarbu Elisaveta)

Once somebody did said: “ Father, Ceausescu is destroying the Churches!. “Not him, the sins of the world” he responded (Maria Matronea)

Father Arsenie was not happy with building walls, and his fight was for people to become churches of Holy Spirit. He said” On walls will come weeds, if there are not living churches” (Mother Pahomia)

Father Arsenie wanted for mothers to give birth to all their children. He said that the end of the world comes when children are not born and when many people will die because of accidents, crimes, thunders. Many sufferings come over us because we need to pay for the ones that don't want to know the sin, because of those that go after pleasures and kill .(Mother Glicheria)

Father said to everybody that for the health of a woman , is good to have 3-4 children. If we don't give birth to as many as they come, the sin is coming over these people living.(Emilia Span)

Regarding marriage, Father said that every bag has it's own patch. And he said, “You don't raise dogs, you raise children without parents.

 A 60 years old woman , from Sambata de Jos, was crying because his son started drinking and when he came home, he was batting her with a chain. Father looked at her, raised his eyes and he said in a loud voice” You are getting beaten not by your son but by the 22 abortions that you did. Do you know what that means? Listen here: that means as many souls going to the other world without being baptized and they would not be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven because of you. However you had money and you built a great sepulcher , like you're going to stay there after death. (Lucia Chima)

2 women from Draganescu went to the Father. The Father asked a woman, How many years you have? She said “33”. And how many children did you have? I can tell you:32”. I was thinking that she could not have one child every year, but she said that she did even 3 abortions a year.

When he was at Draganescu, I brought to the Father a sister of mine from a village and she was saying that his husband was very jealous. She said she has no guilt and that she does not go with other men. Father said: “It is your fault because you did an abortion and you did not confess” I said: Father I am going to send her to Cernica monastery top confess” but father said: “Don't send her to monks because they will give her canon and she can not exit from it. Send her to your priests from the city”(Sarbu Elisaveta)

There was in the times of war. A woman, Catalina found out that her husband died in war. She was pregnant and started running in Sibiu. She saw that she was full of blood. In despair she did an abortion and she came to the Sambata monastery. After Holy Liturgy Father said: “Catalina, Catalina, what have you done. I know that your husband and child has died. You were tried. But if you would let the unborn one...You killed a child with whom God had a grandiose plan.(Fr Petru Vanvulescu)

A coworker, Radu C , came to father Arsenie because he had great problems. His wife was very angry and he did not know what to do with her. Father said: How many children do you have? Radu said: One Father because the life is hard and I can not raise him” Father told him quaickly:”Not one or two, but four or five children you should have, do you understand!?” The man leaved angry , but when he was near the door , Father said in a loud voice:” leave the children to come, not one or two but four or five, if not she will get crazy. Keep in your mind what  am telling you” This advice make him shudder and he went home and told his wife. Today they have five children and his wife is very calm and healthy, and they are very happy and have everything to raise their children. They have everything they need.(Bogdan Juncu)
Once Father Arsenie was in the Church and spoke with people. He was calling everybody and he was saying their sins loud for everybody to hear. He asked a man of 46 years, with a sick wife. “How many children do you have?” The mans said he has 3 children.” and where are the others? Or did you send them on the river?” The man said he did not send them on a river” Then where are the other children? I know you did not send them on a river, but you “threw” them out, as you do. Go and tell your wife to do one more child and she will get healthy. If she will give birth to one more child God will forgive a part of the sins, but there will remain a lot. Did you understand” “I understand Father” said the man(Bilboaca Matei)

APPENDIX F

This may be as importance the first appendix and is about the 40 Liturgies that can take souls from Hell and move them to Heaven. On the time of Holy Liturgy, skies do open and, out of love for people, God comes to prepare food for eternal life. This is one of the highest prayers on the Earth and with the respect of eternal life, maybe the highest. Unfortunately, even if there are documents with Christians having Holy Liturgies from year 60, Protestantism has renounced to it.

Beside, giving food of eternal life to people, Holy Liturgy has another very important role. When God comes to prepare food for eternal life, at the Holy Liturgy, names of the people requesting to be mentioned in front of God, are heard by God and many miracles had happen though this, including souls being saved from Hell.

To have your name mentioned in front of God, you go at an Orthodox Church and fill on an empty paper two columns. One on the left has title Living and the column on right side has the title, departed.
Then on left columns you list all people you want mentioned in front of God. If you know a specific problem for somebody you can name it near his name like SALVATION,job, marriage, happiness or anything else.

At the end of the left column you put will all their living relatives and at the end of right column you put with all their departed relatives, so many people can be beneficiaries of this.

Also is very helpful if you put in these lists people you know that are lone or poor or have problems. Is good to mention as many people as possible if not all.

Then you take the list, in front of the Church, on the left door waiting for the priest to come and to take it. Mentioning is done either in low voice either in loud voice, however stories say that if the priest does not mention somebody giving the list, angels will do it.  If possible this list should be taken with a suggested donation, every church has its own and with a lit candle. Here is an example: http://www.holytransfigurationmonastery.com/sites/default/files/40-day_liturgy_form.pdf


 In Romania there exists a monastery named Crasna where for a suggested donation of around 50-100 $
people are mentioned in front of God day after day for 7 years, with the exception of days when Holy liturgy is not served because of Church regulations. Crasna monastery email: manastireacrasna@yahoo.fr and phone number: +(40)244292562 and on this link messages can be sent: http://www.manastirea-crasna.com/index.php?option=com_contact&Itemid=3 To be able to do this, to serve so many people, every monk participates at the Holy Liturgy mentioning names in front of God and they have many Altars since just one Holy liturgy can be celebrated on one day on one altar. 7 years can mean more than 2000 Liturgies where the departed is mentioned.

Another monastery doing this is Cernica Monastery near Bucharest: Phone tel.: 021.351.17.37. http://manastirea-cernica.ro/info/contact.html

This mentioning of a departed soul for 7 years or mopre is the best gift a departed soul can receive.

Elder Cleopa and the 40 Liturgies:

FROM THE COUNSELS OF ELDER CLEOPA:
Commemoration at Forty Divine Liturgies:

I want to relate a story to you. France was Orthodox until the year
1054, as was Italy, for until that time all countries were of ONE faith.
The Roman Catholics (Papists/Vatican Religion) separated from us in
1054, in the great papal schism when our Church was torn apart because
of papal reforms.

Before that time, there was a priest in France (which was still
Orthodox) who had a brother in the military. The French were at war
with the Mauritanians. Mauritania is what we refer to as French Africa,
right on the other side of the Gibraltar, toward Liberia. At one time it
was a Kingdom. So the French were there fighting against the
Mauritanians, on the other side of Gibraltar, in Africa.

The French priest’s brother went to Mauritania with his military
regiment. At that time war wasn’t like it is now with atomic bombs and
planes , canons and guns; then they fought with Swords, like in the days
of Stephen the Great1, with swords and arrows.

The French thus went into Mauritania to fight this great battle between
the European armies and those in Africa. Even though the French won the
battle, many of their soldiers were captured by the Mauritanians,
amongst whom was the priest’s brother. The priest was from Marseilles, a
French port which is on the Mediterranean Sea.

The priest did not know that his brother had fallen prisoner, and when
the other soldiers returned to France at the end of the war, he asked
them, “Have you seen my brother?” “Father, I think he died in all the
carnage of the battle. Bodies were laying like tree stumps –The Battle
was so bad- and I think that he died, poor man.”

The priest, with a BROTHER’S LOVE, decided to serve the Divine Liturgy
for Forty days in which he specifically commemorated his Brother.
However, the priest’s brother was not dead, but rather a prisoner, and
he was bound with chains in a prison with many others who were also
chained.

The priest would be serving Divine Liturgy at about 10:00 in the
morning, and at that exact time all the chains would fall off of his
brother, leaving him completely free.

The other prisoners said, “What is happening with you? Why do those
Chains fall off of you? Are you some kind of wizard?”

“No, I don’t know anything about magic stuff.”
“Yeah right!, You don’t know magic!”
All of his chains would break and fall off every day at 10:00. The
guards would chain him again and the next day the chains would break and
fall. Another set of chains, and another set broken like dust.
“This Guy is a real Wizard! He’ll just walk out of prison when he wants,
look, the chains can’t hold him!”

No One understood what was going on, and they would ask Him,
“What kind of magic do you have? Do you have some magical amulet hidden
in your shirt or in your pants?”
Saying this, the guards would strip him of his clothes. “Tie me up
naked, if you don’t believe me!”
They did exactly that, and the next day, the chains would again fall off
of him. The guards were baffled and asked each other, “Where does he
hide his magic? If we knew how to do what he does, we could escape from
anywhere!, “Now where do you hide your magic?” He insisted, “I don’t
know magic.”

“Then what religion are you?” they asked, since they were all Moslems.

“I am a Christian. I believe in Christ. I don’t know any incantations
because I believe otherwise. My brother is a priest in my homeland of
France, and I think that he is serving the Liturgy now and removes a
particle for me at Proskomedia, thinking that I am dead. If I WERE dead
and in hell, I would be unbound even there, like I am here. I think this
is what is happening, but I don’t even know for sure.”

“How long is this going to happen to you?”
“Our practice is to serve forty Liturgies. You will see that for these
forty days, the chains fall off of me.”
“After that, what will happen?”
“I don’t know what will happen, except that I will be delivered from
your hands.”
“How? You won’t slip out of our hands!”
“I believe that God would deliver me even if I were in hell, thanks to
the forty Liturgies; and he will certainly deliver me from your hands
here.”
“You’ll see what kind of supervision we put you under then!”
The guards figured out when the Forty days would be up, and did not put
chains on the Man during that time, “It’s useless to chain him because
during these forty days they just break apart and fall off of him!”

On the Fortieth day, they were all keeping watch over him. They put
double bars on the doors, bound him in chains again, and set a guard
just for him, “Don’t take your eyes off of him. Today is the fortieth
day and he claims that he will leave here!”

As the guards were watching him, suddenly they beheld that the roof of
the prison split open and a hand descended, took the prisoner by the
hair of his head, and he was gone.

Where did he go? He was deposited on the porch of his house in
Marseilles within a moment from the time he was lifted out of prison.

The Guards were asked, “What Happened!?”
“Christ came. We saw a hand,” (They did not know that it was the angel
of the Lord, not Christ himself.) “He snatched the prisoner from us and
we fell down trembling. No one could have even grabbed him by the foot.”
“How did he get out?”
“Through the roof of the prison, and then it closed back up again.”
One of the guards said, “Do you see how powerful the Christian faith is?
Do you see the strength of their Christ? It didn’t matter how much you
guarded him, but he took him when He wanted!”
When the priest saw his brother, he said “My Brother! You have come
home!, They told me you died. Today I finished serving the fortieth
Liturgy in which I removed a particle for your soul.”
The former prisoner said, “You did the right thing, Brother, for if I
had been in hell, you would have delivered me from there. Since I was
still on Earth, you brought me out of prison. May God reward you. Listen
to what happened to me…” and he proceeded to tell his brother about the
chains.
So you see how strong those prayers are during the forty Liturgies when
one is remembered at the Proskomedia.


There is another example of a miracle in connection with the forty
Liturgies. An elderly Hieromonk who was an abbot had a disciple who was
not very obedient.
The elder frequently told him, “Be obedient my son, or you will suffer
eternal torments.”
But the disobedient disciple still did not follow the counsel of the
elder. He died before his elder, but after his death, the elder had a
vision of the disciple in hell.
The Disciple said to him, “Father, Please serve forty Liturgies for me,2
for I was disobedient and bad, upsetting you so much.”
After the elder had completed serving those forty Divine Liturgies, he
again beheld his disciple, but this time he was clothed in robes as
bright as the sun, and he said to the elder, “Through your holy prayers
and intercessions which you made for me, I have been released and
saved.”

The End and Glory be to God!

APPENDIX G

This is about people in Hell. Unfortunately, people in Hell are a reality . However we need to remember something. We need to remember that Jesus went to Hell and took people out of Hell and moved them to Heaven. We should also remember that Jesus has said that people, Christians would be allowed to do more than Jesus , since Jesus will pray to the Father.

So the questions remains, what can we do for people in hell , can we do like Jesus and take them out of there?

We know that right now there are candles in front of Jesus icons so that means there is mercy for everybody, on Earth, in hell and on Heaven. Maybe this is why, the people in Hell have no definitive judgment because people on Earth can pray for them and can maybe come and save them, maybe ALL OF THEM.

Early Christian Church may have had baptism for the deceased and this may be an explanation :
1COR 15:29 Or else what will they do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead aren't raised at all, why then are they baptized for the dead?

So, people of Orthodox Christianity have contact with Holy Mother of God and with God. Hopefully at least one would ask God what can be done for people in Hell and how they can be saved , ALL OF THEM, and hopefully he would write down what can be done and people will actually do that.

This is just a hope right now, a beautiful hope. Everybody in heaven.

In my core I believe that this is possible, to save everybody from Hell, to restore creation,  and that right now is the time to try it. God knows how to do that and this is why we need to ask God about this.

We do have powers from God that we don't understand. Do you know that we have powers from God to transform a sick angel into an angel of Light? A woman, nun in a Monastery did just that. The story is in the book Evergetinos. This is entire story in romanian: http://www.crestinortodox.ro/carti-ortodoxe/ne-vorbeste-parintele-cleopa/diavolul-care-s-a-transformat-in-inger-de-lumina-81146.html


So the idea is this, what if why have power , are allowed by God to save people from hell, now that there is mercy of God and we don't do it , not because is not possible but because we don't know about it and we don't ask about it? What if we have the power to restore the Creation back and the only thing that prevents us from doing this is that we did not ask God fo
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 10:55:36 PM »

Saint Cyprian was the most important sorcerer in his life, he would probably go straight to Hell. However this did not happen since he turned 360 degrees becoming a great saint.

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 12:09:29 AM »

Why?
People can turn around And Saint Cypriann, former magician did exists.

The Life and Sufferings of the Holy Martyrs Cyprian and Justina (Commemorated October 2/15)
Kontakion, Tone 1
Thou wast converted from the art of sorcery, O divinely wise one,*
to the knowledge of God,* and wast manifested to the world as a
most wise physician,* granting healing to those who honor thee, O
Cyprian together with Justina.* With her, then, entreat
the Master, the Lover of mankind,* that He may save our souls.

IN THE REIGN of Decius (249-251) there lived in Antioch (of Pisidia) a certain philosopher and renowned sorcerer whose name was Cyprian, a native of Carthage. Springing from impious parents, in his very childhood he was dedicated by them to the service of the pagan god Apollo. At the age of seven he was given over to magicians for the study of sorcery and demonic wisdom. At the age of ten he was sent by his parents, as a preparation for a sorcerer's career, to Mount Olympus, which the pagans called the dwelling of the gods. Here there were a numerous multitude of idols, in which demons dwelled.

On this mountain Cyprian studied all manner of diabolical arts: he mastered various demonic transformations, learned how to change the nature of the air, to bring up winds, produce thunder and rain, disturb the waves of the sea, cause damage to gardens, vineyards and fields, to send diseases and plagues upon people; and in general he learned a ruinous wisdom and diabolical activity filled with evil. In this place he saw a numberless legion of demons, with the prince of darkness at their head; some stood before him, others served him, still others cried out in praise of their prince, and some were sent into the world in order to corrupt people. Here he likewise saw in their false forms the pagan gods and goddesses, and also diverse phantoms and specters, the invocation of which he learned in a strict forty-day fast. He ate only after the setting of the sun, and not bread or anything else, but only acorns from oak trees.

When he was fifteen years old he began to receive lessons from seven great sorcerers; from them he learned many demonic secrets. Then he went to the city of Argos, where, having served the goddess Juno for a time, he learned many practices of deception from her priests. He lived also in Taurapolis (on the island of Icara) in the service of the goddess Diana; and from there he went to Sparta, where he learned how to call forth the dead from the graves and to force them to speak by means of various incantations and spells. At the age of twenty, Cyprian came to Egypt, and in the city of Memphis he learned yet greater charms and incantations. In his thirtieth year he went to the Chaldeans, and having learned astrology there, he finished his studies. After this he returned to Antioch, being perfect in all evil-doing. Thus he became a sorcerer, magician, and destroyer of souls, a great friend and faithful slave of the prince of hell, with whom he conversed face to face, being vouchsafed to receive from him great honor, as he himself testified.

"Believe me," he said; "I have seen the prince of darkness himself, for I propitiated him by sacrifices. I greeted him and spoke with him and his ancients; he liked me, praised my understanding, and before everyone said: 'Here is a new Jambres, always ready for obedience and worthy of communion with us!' And he promised to make me a prince after my departure from the body, and for the course of earthly life to help me in everything. And he gave me a legion of demons to serve me. When I departed from him, he addressed me with these words: 'Take courage, fervent Cyprian; arise and accompany me; let all the demonic ancients marvel at you.' Consequently, all of his princes also were attentive to me, seeing the honor shown to me. The outward appearance of the prince of darkness was like a flower. His head was crowned by a crown (not an actual, but a phantom one) made of gold and brilliant stones, as a result of which the whole space around him was illuminated; and his clothing was astonishing. When he would turn to one or the other side, that whole place would tremble; a multitude of evil spirits of various degrees stood obediently at his throne. I gave myself over entirely into his service at that time, obeying his every command." Thus did St. Cyprian relate of himself after his conversion.

From this it is evident what kind of man Cyprian was: as a friend of the demons, he performed all their works, causing evil to people and deceiving them. Living in Antioch, he turned many people away to every kind of lawless deed; he killed many with poisons and magic, and slaughtered young men and maidens as sacrifices for the demons. He instructed many in his ruinous sorcery: some he taught to fly in the air, others to sail in boats on the clouds, still others to walk on water. By all the pagans he was revered and glorified as a chief priest and most wise servant of their vile gods. Many turned to him in their needs, and he helped them by means of the demonic power with which he was filled: with some he cooperated in their adulteries, with others in anger, enmity, revenge, jealousy. Already he was entirely in the depths of hell and in the jaws of the devil; he was a son of gehenna, a partaker of the demonic inheritance and of their eternal perdition. But the Lord, who does not desire the death of a sinner, in His unutterable goodness and His mercy which is not conquered by the sins of men, deigned to seek out this lost man, to draw out of the abyss one who was mired in the filth of the depths of hell, and to save him in order to show to all men His mercy; for there is no sin which can conquer His love of mankind.

He saved Cyprian from perdition in the following way.

THERE LIVED AT THAT TIME in Antioch a certain maiden whose name was Justina. She came from pagan parents; her father was a priest of the idols, Aedesius by name, and her mother was called Cledonia. Once, sitting at the window of her house, this maiden, who had then already reached womanhood, by chance heard the words of salvation out of the mouth of a deacon who was passing by, whose name was Praylius. He spoke of our Lord Jesus Christ's becoming man, that He had been born of the Most Pure Virgin and, having performed many miracles, had deigned to suffer for the sake of our salvation, had risen from the dead with glory, ascended into the heavens, and sits at the right hand of the Father and reigns eternally. This preaching of the deacon fell on good soil, into the heart of Justina, and began quickly to bring forth fruit, uprooting in her the thorns of unbelief. Justina wished to be instructed in the Faith by this deacon better and more completely, but she did not dare to seek him out, being restrained by a maiden's modesty. However, she secretly went to the church of Christ, and often hearing the word of God, with the Holy Spirit acting in her heart, she came to believe in Christ.

Soon she convinced her mother of this also, and then brought to the faith her aged father as well. Seeing the understanding of his daughter and hearing her wise words, Aedesius reflected within himself thus: "The idols are made by the hands of men and have neither soul nor breath, and therefore how can they be gods?" While he was reflecting on this, once at night he saw during sleep, by Divine consent, a wondrous vision: he saw a great multitude of light-bearing Angels, and in their midst was the Saviour of the world, Christ, Who said to him: "Come to Me, and I will give you the Kingdom of Heaven."

After rising in the morning, Aedesius went with his wife and daughter to the Christian Bishop, whose name was Optatus, begging him to instruct them in the Faith of Christ and to perform upon them holy Baptism. At the same time he informed him of the words of his daughter and of the angelic vision which he had seen himself. Hearing this, the Bishop rejoiced at their conversion, and having instructed them in the Faith of Christ, he baptized Aedesius, his wife Cledonia, and their daughter Justina; and then, having given them communion of the Holy Mysteries, he let them go in peace.

When Aedesius had become strengthened in the Faith of Christ, the Bishop, seeing his piety, made him a presbyter. After this, having lived virtuously and in the fear of God for a year and six months, Aedesius in holy faith came to the end of his life. As for Justina, she valiantly struggled in the keeping of the Lord's commandments, and having come to love her Bridegroom Christ, she served Him with fervent prayers, in virginity and chastity, in fasting and great abstinence. But the enemy, the hater of the human race, seeing such a life, envied her virtues and began to do harm to her, causing various misfortunes and sorrows.

AT THAT TIME there lived in Antioch a certain youth named Aglaias, the son of wealthy and renowned parents. He lived luxuriously, giving himself entirely over to the vanity of this world. Once he saw Justina as she was going to church, and he was struck by her beauty. The devil instilled shameful intentions into his heart. Being inflamed with lust, Aglaias by all means strove to gain the good disposition and love of Justina and by means of deception to bring the pure lamb of Christ to the defilement which he planned. He observed all the paths by which the maiden would walk, and, meeting her, would speak to her cunning words, praising her beauty and glorifying her; showing his love for her, he strove to draw her into fornication by a cunningly-woven net of deceptions. The maiden, however, turned away from him and fled from him, despising him and not desiring even to hear his deceptive and cunning speeches. But the youth did not grow cool in his desire of her beauty, and he sent to her the request that she should agree to become his wife.

She, however, replied to him: "My Bridegroom is Christ; Him I serve, and for His sake I preserve my purity. He preserves both my soul and my body from every defilement."

Hearing such a reply from the chaste maiden, Aglaias, being instigated by the devil, became yet more inflamed with passion. Not being able to deceive her, he intended to seize her by force. Having gathered to his aid some foolish youths like himself, he waylaid the maiden in the path along which she usually walked to church for prayer; there he met her and, seizing her, began dragging her by force to his house. But she began loudly to scream, beat him in the face, and spat on him. The neighbors, hearing her wails, ran out of their houses and took the immaculate lamb, St. Justina, from the hands of the impious youth as from the jaws of a wolf. The disorderly youths scattered, and Aglaias returned with shame to his house. Not knowing what more to do, he decided, with the increase of impure lust in him, upon a new evil deed: he went to the great sorcerer and magician Cyprian, the priest of the idols, and having informed him of his sorrow, begged his help, promising to give him much gold and silver. Having heard out Aglaias, Cyprian comforted him, promising to fulfill his desire. "I will so manage," he said, "that the maiden herself will seek your love and will feel passion for you even stronger than that which you have for her."

Having thus consoled the youth, Cyprian let him go, full of hope. Then, taking the books of his secret art, he invoked one of the impious spirits who, he was sure, could soon inflame the heart of Justina with passion for this youth. The demon willingly promised to fulfill this and proudly said: "This deed is not difficult for me, because many times I have shaken cities, crumbled walls, destroyed houses, caused the shedding of blood and patricide, instilled hatred and great anger between brothers and spouses, and have brought to sin many who have given a vow of virginity. In monks who have settled in mountains and were accustomed to strict fasting and have never even thought about the flesh, I have instilled adulterous lust and instructed them to serve fleshly passions; people who have repented and turned away from sin, I have converted back to evil deeds; many chaste people I have thrown into fornication. Will I really be unable to incline this maiden to the love of Aglaias? Indeed, why do I speak? I will swiftly show my powers in very deed. Take this powder" (here he gave him a vessel full of something) "and give it to this youth; let him sprinkle the house of Justina with it, and you will see that what I have said will come to pass."

Having said this, the demon vanished. Cyprian called Aglaias and sent him to sprinkle the house of Justina secretly with the contents of the demon's vessel. When this had been done, the demon of fornication entered the house with the flaming arrows of fleshly lust in order to wound the heart of the maiden with fornication, and to ignite her flesh with impure lust.

Justina had the custom every night to offer up prayers to the Lord. And behold, when, according to custom, she arose at the third hour of the night and was praying to God, she suddenly felt an agitation in her body, a storm of bodily lust and the flame of the fire of gehenna. In such agitation and inward battle she remained for quite a long time; the youth Aglaias came to her mind, and shameful thoughts arose in her. The maiden marveled and was ashamed of herself, feeling that her blood was boiling as in a kettle; now she thought about that which she had always despised as vile. But in her good sense Justina understood that this battle had arisen in her from the devil; immediately she turned to the weapon of the sign of the cross, hastened to God with fervent prayer, and from the depths of her heart cried out to Christ her Bridegroom: "O Lord, my God, Jesus Christ! Behold how many enemies have risen up against me and have prepared a net in order to catch me and take away my soul. But I have remembered Thy name in the night and have rejoiced, and now when they are close about me I hasten to Thee and have hope that my enemy will not triumph over me. For thou knowest, O Lord my God, that I, Thy slave, have preserved for Thee the purity of my body and have entrusted my soul to Thee. Preserve Thy sheep, O good Shepherd; do not give it over to be eaten by the beast who seeks to devour me; grant me victory over the evil desire of my flesh."

Having prayed long and fervently, the holy virgin put the enemy to shame. Being conquered by her prayer, he fled from her with shame, and again there came a calm in Justina's body and heart; the flame of desire was quenched, the battle ceased, the boiling blood was stilled. Justina glorified God and sang a song of victory.

The demon, on the other hand, returned to Cyprian with the sad news that he had accomplished nothing. Cyprian asked him why he had not been able to conquer the maiden. The demon, even against his will, revealed the truth: "I could not conquer her because I saw on her a certain sign of which I was afraid."

Then Cyprian called a yet more malicious demon and sent film to tempt Justina. He went and did much more than the first one, falling upon the maiden with great rage. But she armed herself with fervent prayer and laid upon herself yet a more powerful labor: she clothed herself in a hair shirt and mortified her flesh with abstinence and fasting, eating only bread and water. Having thus tamed the passions of her flesh, Justina conquered the devil and banished him with shame. And he, like the first one, returned to Cyprian without accomplishing anything.

Then Cyprian called one of the princes of the demons, informed him about the weakness of the demons he had sent, who could not conquer a single maiden, and asked help from him. This prince of demons severely reproached the other demons for their lack of skill in this matter and for their inability to arouse passion in the heart of the maiden. Having given hope to Cyprian and promised to seduce the maiden by other means, he took on the appearance of a woman and went to Justina. And he began to converse piously with her, as if desiring to follow the example of her virtuous life and her chastity. Conversing in this way, he asked the maiden what kind of reward there might be for such a strict life and for the preservation of purity.

Justina replied that the reward for those who live in chastity is great and beyond words, and that it is very remarkable that people do not in the least concern themselves for such a great treasure as angelic purity. Then the devil, revealing his shamelessness, began with cunning words to tempt her, saying: "But then how could the world exist? How would people be born? After all, if Eve had preserved her purity, how would the human race have increased? In truth marriage is a good thing, being established by God Himself; the Sacred Scripture also praises it, saying: Let marriage be had in honor among all, and the bed undefiled (Heb. 13:4). And many saints of God also did they not enter into marriage, which God gave them as a consolation, so that they might rejoice in their children and praise God?"

Hearing these words, Justina recognized the cunning deceiver, the devil, and, more skillful than Eve, conquered him. Without continuing this conversation, she immediately fled to the defense of the Cross of the Lord and placed its honorable sign on her forehead; and her heart she turned to Christ her Bridegroom. And the devil immediately vanished with yet greater shame than the first two demons.

In great disturbance, the proud prince of the demons returned to Cyprian, who, finding out that he had not managed to do anything, said to him: "Can it be that even you, a prince powerful and more skillful than others in such matters, could not conquer the maiden? Who then among you can do anything with this unconquerable maiden's heart? Tell me by what weapon she battles with you, and how she makes powerless your mighty power?"

Being conquered by the power of God, the devil unwillingly acknowledged: "We cannot behold the sign of the Cross, but flee from it, because it scorches us like fire and banishes us far away."

Cyprian became angry at the devil because he had put him to shame, and reproaching the demon, he said: "Such is your power that even a weak virgin conquers you!"

Then the devil, desiring to console Cyprian, attempted yet another undertaking: he took on the form of Justina and went to Aglaias with the hope that, having taken him for the real Justina, the youth might satisfy his desire, and thus neither would the weakness of the demons be revealed, nor would Cyprian be put to shame. And behold, when the demon went to Aglaias in the form of Justina, the youth leaped up in unspeakable joy, ran to the false maiden, embraced her and began kissing her, saying: "How good it is that you have come to me, fair Justina!"

But no sooner had the youth pronounced the word "Justina" than the demon immediately disappeared, being unable to bear even the name of Justina. The youth became greatly afraid and, running to Cyprian, told him what had happened. Then Cyprian by his sorcery gave him the form of a bird and, having enabled him to fly in the air, he sent him to the house of Justina, advising him to fly into her room through the window. Being carried by a demon in the air, Aglaias flew on the roof. At this time Justina happened to look through the window of her room. Seeing her, the demon left Aglaias and fled. At the same time, the phantom appearance of Aglaias also vanished, and the youth, falling down, was all but dashed to pieces. He grasped the edge of the roof with his hands and, holding on to it, hung there; and if he had not been let down to the ground by the prayer of St. Justina, the impious one would have fallen down and been killed.

Thus, having achieved nothing, the youth returned to Cyprian and told him of his woe. Seeing himself put to shame, Cyprian was greatly grieved and thought himself of going to Justina, trusting in the power of his sorcery. He turned himself into a woman and into a bird, but he did mpt manage to reach as far as the door of the house of Justina before his false appearances disappeared, and he returned with sorrow.

AFTER THIS CYPRIAN began to gain revenge for his shame, and by his sorcery he brought diverse misfortunes on the house of Justina and on the houses of all her relatives, neighbors and friends, as once the devil had done to righteous Job (Job 1:15-19, 2:7). He killed their animals, he struck down their slaves with plagues, and in this way he brought them to extreme grief. Finally, he struck with illness Justina herself, so that she lay in bed and her mother wept over her. Justina, however, comforted her mother with the words of the Prophet David: I shall not die, but live, and I shall tell of the works of the Lord (Psalm 117:17).

Not only on Justina and her relatives, but also on the whole city, by God's allowance, did Cyprian bring misfortune as a result of his untamable rage and his great shame. Plagues appeared in the animals and various diseases among men; and the rumor spread, through the activity of the demons, that the great sorcerer Cyprian was punishing the city for Justina's opposition to him. Then the most honorable citizens went to Justina and with anger tried to persuade her not to grieve Cyprian any longer, and to become the wife of Aglaias, in order to escape yet greater misfortunes for the whole city because of her. But she calmed them by saying that soon all the misfortunes which had been brought about with the help of Cyprian's demons would cease. And so it happened. When St. Justina prayed fervently to God, immediately all the demonic attacks ceased; all were healed from the plagues and recovered from their diseases. When such a change occurred, the people glorified Christ and mocked Cyprian and his sorcerer's cunning, so that from shame he could not show himself among men and he avoided meeting even friends.

Having become convinced that nothing could conquer the power of the sign of the cross and the name of Christ, Cyprian came to his senses and said to the devil: "O destroyer and deceiver of all, source of every impurity and defilement! Now I have discovered your infirmity. For if you fear even the shadow of the cross and tremble at the name of Christ, then what will you do when Christ Himself comes to you? If you cannot conquer those who sign themselves with the sign of the cross, then whom will you tear away from the hands of Christ? Now I have understood what a non-entity you are; you are not even able to take revenge! Listening to you, 1, wretched one, have been deceived, and I believed your tricks. Depart from me, accursed one, depart! For I must entreat the Christians that they might have mercy on me. I must appeal to pious people, that they might deliver me from perdition and be concerned over my salvation. Depart, depart from me, lawless one, enemy of truth, adversary and hater of every good thing!"

Having heard this, the devil threw himself on Cyprian in order to kill him; attacking him, he began to beat and strangle him. Finding no defense anywhere, and not knowing how to help himself and be delivered from the fierce hands of the demon, Cyprian, already scarcely alive, remembered the sign of the cross, by the power of which Justina had opposed all the demons' power, and he cried out: "O God of Justina, help me!"

Then, raising his hand, he made the sign of the cross, and the devil immediately leaped away from him like an arrow shot from a bow. Gaining courage, Cyprian became bolder, and calling on the name of Christ, he signed himself with the sign of the cross and stubbornly opposed the demon, cursing and reproaching him. As for the devil, standing far away from him and not daring to draw near to him out of fear of the sign of the cross and the name of Christ, he threatened Cyprian in every manner, saying: "Christ will not deliver you out of my hands!" Then, after long and fierce attacks on Cyprian, the demon roared like a lion and went away.

THEN CYPRIAN took all his books of magic and went to the Christian Bishop Anthimus. Falling to the feet of the Bishop, he entreated him to have mercy on him and to give him holy Baptism. Knowing that Cyprian was a great sorcerer, feared by all, the Bishop thought that he had come to him with some kind of trick, and therefore he refused him, saying: "You do much evil among the pagans; leave the Christians in peace, lest you speedily perish." Then Cyprian with tears confessed everything to the Bishop and gave him his books to be burned. Seeing his humility, the Bishop instructed him and taught him the holy faith, and then commanded him to prepare for Baptism; and his books he burned before all the believing citizens.

Leaving the Bishop with a contrite heart, Cyprian wept over his sins, sprinkled ashes on his head, and sincerely repented, calling out to the true God for the cleansing of his iniquities. Coming the next day to church, he heard the word of God with joyful emotion, standing among the believers. And when the deacon commanded the catechumens to go out, declaring: "Ye catechumens depart," and certain ones were already going out, Cyprian did not wish to go out, saying to the deacon: "I am a slave of Christ; do not chase me out of here." But the deacon said to him: "Since you have not yet been given holy Baptism, you must go out of the church."

To this Cyprian replied: "As Christ my God I liveth, Who has delivered me from the devil, Who has preserved the maiden Justina pure, and has had mercy on me—you will not chase me out of the church until I become a complete Christian."

The deacon related this to the Bishop, and the Bishop, seeing the fervor of Cyprian and his devotion to the faith of Christ, called him up and immediately baptized him in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Finding out about this, St. Justina gave thanks to God, distributed much alms to the poor, and made an offering in church. And Cyprian, on the eighth day after his Baptism, was made a reader by the Bishop; on the twentieth day he was made subdeacon, and on the thirtieth day a deacon; and in a year he was ordained priest. Cyprian completely changed his life; with every day he increased his struggles, and constantly weeping over his previous evil deeds, he perfected himself and ascended from virtue to virtue. Soon he was made Bishop, and in this rank he led such a holy life that he equaled many great saints. At the same time he zealously took care of the flock of Christ which had been entrusted to him. St. Justina the maiden he made a deaconess, and then entrusted to her a convent, making her abbess over other Christian maidens. By his conduct and instruction he converted many pagans and acquired them for the Church of Christ. Thus, idol worship began to die out in that land, and the glory of Christ increased.

Seeing the strict life of St. Cyprian, his concern for the faith of Christ and for the salvation of human souls, the devil ground his teeth against him And inspired the pagans to slander him before the governor of the eastern region, saying that he had put the gods to shame, had converted many people away from them, and was glorifying Christ, Who was hostile to their gods. And so, many impious ones came to the governor Eutolmius, who was then governing those regions, and made slanders against Cyprian and Justina, accusing them ,of being hostile to their gods and to the emperor and to all authorities, saying that they were disturbing the people, deceiving them, and leading them in their footsteps, disposing them to worship the crucified Christ. At the same time they asked the governor to give Cyprian and Justina over to death for this. Having heard their request, Eutolmius commanded that Cyprian and Justina be seized and placed in prison. Then, setting out for Damascus, he took them with him in order to make judgment upon them.

And when they had brought the prisoners of Christ, Cyprian and Justina, to him, he asked Cyprian: "Why have you changed your earlier glorious way of life, when you were a renowned servant of the gods and brought many people to them?"

St. Cyprian related to the governor how he had found out the infirmity and the deception of the demons and come to understand the power of Christ, which the demons feared and before which they trembled, disappearing from before the sign of the precious cross; and likewise he explained the reason for his conversion to Christ, for Whom he declared his readiness to die. The torturer did not accept the words of Cyprian in his heart, but being unable to reply to them, he commanded that the Saint be hung up and his body scraped, and that St. Justina be beaten on the mouth and eyes. For the whole time of the long torments they ceaselessly confessed Christ and endured everything with thanksgiving. Then the torturer imprisoned them and strove by kind exhortation to return them to idol worship. When he was unable to convince them, he commanded that they be thrown into a cauldron; but the boiling cauldron did not cause them any harm, and they glorified God as if they were in some cool place. Seeing this, one priest of the idols, by name Athanasius, said: "In the name of the god Aesculapius, I also will throw myself into this fire and put to shame those sorcerers." But hardly had the fire touched him than he immediately died.

Seeing this, the torturer became frightened, and not desiring to judge them further, he sent the martyrs to the governor Claudius in Nicomedia, describing all that had happened to them. This governor condemned them to be beheaded with the sword. When they were brought to the place of execution, Cyprian asked a little time for prayer, so that Justina might be executed first; he feared that Justina would become frightened at the sight of his death. But she joyfully bent her head under the sword and departed unto her Bridegroom Christ. Seeing the innocent death of these martyrs, a certain Theoctistus, who was present there, greatly pitied them and, being inflamed in his heart towards God, he fell down to St. Cyprian and, kissing him, declared himself a Christian. Together with Cyprian he also was immediately condemned to be beheaded.

Thus they gave over their souls into the hands of God; their bodies, however, lay for six days unburied. Certain of the strangers who were there secretly took them and brought them to Rome, where they gave them to a certain virtuous and holy woman whose name was Rufina, a relative of Claudius Caesar. She buried with honor the bodies of the holy martyrs of Christ: Cyprian, Justina, and Theoctistus. At their graves many healings occurred for those who came to them with faith. (Their martyrdoms occurred toward the end of the third century—according to some, in about the year 268, but according to others, in 304.)

By their prayers may the Lord heal also our afflictions of body and soul! Amen.

Translated from the Russian Lives of Saints, Moscow, 1904.

SOME MIRACLES OF SAINTS CYPRIAN AND JUSTINA
In 19th-Century Russia
The devout maiden R. was subjected to the same temptation as was once the holy Martyr Justina: she was pursued by a certain man who, seeing that all his efforts to arouse in her a mutual love for him remained futile, turned to a sorcerer, and with his help began to direct magic spells against her. Being forewarned about this through a faithful servant-woman, and beginning to feel in herself the action of the enemy's power, this maiden had no one from whom to seek help except God, for she had no acquaintance with anyone of spiritual life. One night the above-mentioned servant-woman saw a dream wherein a tall monk entered her lady's room and led her out in a monastic garment. Soon after this, Elder Anthony of Optina visited this family, although he had not known them before. In this important visit was clearly expressed the providence of God for this family, as well as the manifest activity of demons ... When he entered the house (as he later wrote this maiden), "at first I encountered a whole crowd of demons who with abusive language forbade me to enter, but the Lord drove them away ... Even though I did not know the history of your last two years, it was not for nothing that I advised you to pray to the holy Martyr Justina the virgin, for your situation then was very similar to hers, as I recently found out, and with my whole soul I thank God with tears that your holy soul has been delivered from the nets which had caught it!" The servant-woman, when she saw Father Anthony, recognized that it was precisely he that she had seen in her dream.

The Elder understood that the only salvation for this maiden was to go to a convent. But her relatives did not wish even to hear of this, and Father Anthony did not find it possible or profitable to persuade them; and therefore he only prayed for her deliverance from the enemy's nets that surrounded her, and by his letters strengthened her in her torment from the invisible power of demons, which had been brought against her by the sorcerer ... By the prayers of Father Anthony, R's mother unexpectedly gave her consent for her to enter a convent ... However, the sorcerer boasted that he would drag her even out of the convent. And indeed, the young novice continued to feel within herself the action of the enemy's power, having repose neither day nor night; and again she found strength in the prayers and counsel of Father Anthony. The young sufferer received final deliverance from the temptation of the enemy that tormented her through the prayers of the great contemporary hierarch, now reposed, Metropolitan Philaret of Moscow. Once he appeared to her in a dream, read the 60th Psalm, ordered her to repeat after him all the verses of it, and then gave her the command to read this Psalm daily. On awakening, she felt that the temptation which had been tormenting her for many years had completely departed from her.

(Elder Anthony concludes his letter to this maiden, who was then still suffering the effects of her experience:) "Be full of hope. You and I, even lying flat in bed, will be saved by the prayers of the saints for us; for if the prayer of even a single saint can give much help, then when all the saints start to pray for us, without any doubt the Kingdom of Heaven will be ours!" (Translated from Hieromonk Clement Sederholm, Optina Elder Anthony, St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood, 1973, pp. 100-103, and The Letters of Abbot Anthony, Optina edition, 1869, pp. 381-2.)

In 20th-century Greece
From the time when, by the grace of God, our monastery was founded in 1961, our protectors, Saints Cyprian and Justina, have worked many miracles through their intercession, especially for those suffering from satanic influence or the effects of black magic.

A few years ago, after the Sunday Liturgy, while the abbot was still in the altar taking off his vestments, a young man, about 30 years old, came to one of the side doors of the iconostasis and in tears said: "Father, save me, help, my home is falling apart. I have been married 25 days now, but they have done something to me and I can't get close to my wife. We live as brother and sister, and now we're so much in the hold of nerves and quarrelling, that if it continues, we will separate."

The abbot tried to calm him, and advised him that when he and his wife had repented of their sins, they should confess, and after fasting three days, they should come to the monastery so that a Vigil and Divine Liturgy could be served in their name.

They did as instructed, prepared and came; the Vigil was celebrated and prayers of exorcism were read over them, and in the morning they left for home. Next Sunday the young man came to the monastery again, but this time full of joy, and he told with great emotion what had happened. "When we left here on Thursday morning, we returned home and found my father very disturbed. When I asked him what was wrong, he said: 'Something fearful happened last night. While I was sleeping, there appeared before me a tall old man with gray hair and beard, who woke me up and said: "Get up, my child, and dig there (he showed me the exact place) to find your son's magic charm." After that he disappeared. I was so frightened that I stayed in bed waiting for it to get light.'" (It is evident that the tall old man who appeared was St. Cyprian, who went, while the Vigil was being celebrated and the prayers being read, to the couple's house to reveal to his father this demonic business.)

The young man continued: "I asked my father where the old man told him to dig. He showed me, and forty centimeters down I found these strange things." He gave the abbot a white handkerchief with a large knot, which proved when opened to contain the dust of a dead body and the couple's initials. Exorcisms were read over it, and the young man left again. Two days later the abbot saw an old woman kneeling and weeping before the icon of St. Cyprian and St. Justina. When asked what had happened, she replied that she was the mother of the young man from Aspopyrgo, and from the day they had come to the monastery, they had been completely well, and were living in great happiness. She had come to thank the Saints, full of gratitude for the great gift they had given. (By Archimandrite [now Metropolitan] Cyprian of the Monastery of Sts. Cyprian and Justina; translation first published in The Old Calendarist, monthly publication of the St. George Information Service, London, England, June, 1975.)

From The Orthodox Word, Vol. 12, No. 5 (70) (September-October, 1976), pp. 135-142, 167-176.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 12:12:03 AM »

Anyhow, if you are interested in eternal life, need to read first 2 posts and most questions will be answered about how to be immortal.

Adam and Eve lost eternal life and entrance to Heaven, how can you get them back? First 2 posts tell you about this.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 12:31:11 AM »

When someone does a 360 degree turn, they end up in the same place as before. Cheesy

By the way, what is the source of this plethora of information? Is the author an Orthodox Christian? Huh
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I feel like dattaswami is in our midst, except he has learned about paragraph breaks.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 01:01:30 AM »

No one here reads posts that long, unless you include a few dozen maps.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 01:08:57 AM »

Come on guys, the first two posts (combined) only have about 16,000 words... that's a walk in the park!  Tongue Out of curiosity I went to see how long my longest posts on this board were. One that I made on Fr. Seraphim Rose was 4,501 words long. The second longest, in defense of the saintly status of St. Augustine, was 2,957 long. I bow before your ability to go on and on and on, pasadi97!
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2011, 01:34:09 AM »

The only other place where I have found "The ABC of Eternal Life in Few Minutes" is here: http://www.monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?8316-The-abc-of-eternal-life-in-few-minute

I don't know if this is the same person as on that site.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 01:40:49 AM »

The ABCs reminds me of Dr. Bronner's soap and the crazy manifesto on the label.

Asteriktos, you clearly have some catching up to do.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 01:47:23 AM »

The ABCs reminds me of Dr. Bronner's soap and the crazy manifesto on the label.

lulz. nice!
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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message572488/pg1

^ Another posting of this...er...thing. Poster is anonymous but it was from a few days ago. Seems like a troll posting his/her epic essay all around.

An abstract or summary would have been nice. I'm surprised the internets don't break with posts this long.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2011, 06:48:53 AM »

Is this site Internet police or something?

You are interested in eternal life, you read it, you'r not interested, you don't read it. Is so simple.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2011, 07:20:53 AM »

If you read by appendix, that is several minutes, you should have a pretty clear idea where eternal life is. Appendix is very close to beginning.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2011, 08:52:50 AM »

Ok, if I am thinkig better, you are smart. Lets do the intro.

This is a detective work, for finding eternal life. It starts with an ancient historical document named The book of Adam and Eve where God tells Adam who will save humankind and when. Then we look to religions started before that date what they say, and basically we find that they say, people of this religion, good or bad go to Hades or Sheol that is Hell. Then we look into that specific time for that specific persopn and find that the only human in the Universe claiming to be who the Book of Adam and Eve say will bring salvation came at the time the book explained and brought to Earth eternal life and entrance to heaven.

Then we see that from that religion many groups have splintered , most of them renouncing the food for eternal life. So basically you will find out where the eternal life si TODAY.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2011, 09:18:45 AM »

Whoa!

pasadi97 just dropped a whole website on us!

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The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes

I'm a fast reader but I think that would take more than a few minutes.

Someone obviously put a lot of effort into this and pasadi97 (the same someone?) wants us to read it. Apparently he/she doesn't realize that it's poor forum etiquette to post such an Atlas Shrugged here.

"You're not new to the interweb by any chance are you pasadi97?", he asked politely...

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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 09:54:39 AM »

The ABCs reminds me of Dr. Bronner's soap and the crazy manifesto on the label.

Asteriktos, you clearly have some catching up to do.  Wink

Hey Bronner's soap is awesome.  Who cares about the label.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 09:56:59 AM »

Ok, if I am thinkig better, you are smart. Lets do the intro.

This is a detective work,
You claim to be OCA. Who is your bishop? What does he say about your ABCs?
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 10:03:42 AM »

What do you think about it?
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 10:07:18 AM »

What do you think about it?
If you're asking me, I must give you the same answer as have others. I'm not going to invest my time reading such a lengthy post from someone whom I don't know. Please let me know which OCA bishop recommends that I read it.
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 10:13:37 AM »

This is an overview:
This is a detective work, for finding eternal life. It starts with an ancient historical document named The book of Adam and Eve where God tells Adam who will save humankind and when. Then we look to religions started before that date what they say, and basically we find that they say, people of this religion, good or bad go to Hades or Sheol that is Hell. Then we look into that specific time for that specific persopn and find that the only human in the Universe claiming to be who the Book of Adam and Eve say will bring salvation came at the time the book explained and brought to Earth eternal life and entrance to heaven.

Then we see that from that religion many groups have splintered , most of them renouncing the food for eternal life. So basically you will find out where the eternal life si TODAY.
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This is an overview:
This is a detective work, for finding eternal life. It starts with an ancient historical document
No it does not. It starts with Jesus Christ.

I do not believe that you are an Orthodox Christian in spite of what you have identified as your faith and your jurisdiction.

You have refused to name an OCA bishop (for that matter any Orthodox bishop) who supports your ramblings. Until you do so, I will not engage in any further discussion with you.

Ignore the troll.
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Ignore the troll.

No matter how ridiculous his posts could be you should not use such personal attacks. You are free to criticise his views but not him. Consider this as a warning.
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 10:56:06 AM »

The ABCs reminds me of Dr. Bronner's soap and the crazy manifesto on the label.

Asteriktos, you clearly have some catching up to do.  Wink

Hey Bronner's soap is awesome.  Who cares about the label.
I'm a total shill for that stuff. It's sick! I use the soap for everything. The label is pretty hilarious, though.
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2011, 10:58:10 AM »

Actually the post above has many hard truths that are hard to swallow for many religions that are exposed, together with Protestantism. This hurts .

So people have the choice:
Fall into denial or come to truth.
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2011, 10:58:49 AM »

The ABCs reminds me of Dr. Bronner's soap and the crazy manifesto on the label.

Asteriktos, you clearly have some catching up to do.  Wink

Hey Bronner's soap is awesome.  Who cares about the label.
I'm a total shill for that stuff. It's sick! I use the soap for everything. The label is pretty hilarious, though.

The soap is terrible. The packaging brilliant. Plays into the market which wants to show its anti-consumerist politics via consumption.
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2011, 11:05:42 AM »

Orthonorm, have you used it for washing small items of clothes? It cleans them pretty well. Obviously I've never used it for brushing teeth yet -- UGH! One of my hippie friends tried to use the bottled soap for everything and immediately returned to baking soda. She said that brushing her teeth with it was a "disgusting" experience.
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 11:20:06 AM »

The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes

You don't typically get a few minutes on an internet forum, at least from my experience. You have closer to a few seconds to grab someone's attention and get your main point across.

Or maybe I'm just lazy.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 11:25:28 AM »

Guys, what if Jesus posted 16,000 word manifestos on message boards? We'd probably be done for, unless he streamlined them, added occasional pictures, big text, etc.  angel
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Guys, what if Jesus posted 16,000 word manifestos on message boards? We'd probably be done for, unless he streamlined them, added occasional pictures, big text, etc.  angel

As long as they were in red . . .
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Guys, what if Jesus posted 16,000 word manifestos on message boards? We'd probably be done for, unless he streamlined them, added occasional pictures, big text, etc.  angel

As long as they were in red . . .

Maybe green.
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2011, 12:38:01 PM »

Guys . The post above is not letter of the Law. You read, you understand it and then do your own inquiries to finding truth.

God knows the truth for sure so pray this:

Dear God, plase force me to salvation and please force all humanity to salvation and please make me and all people understand all the religions in the world as you see them. Please give me and everybody a full understanding of salvation.
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2011, 12:44:30 PM »

I love that God doesn't FORCE us to salvation.
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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2011, 12:47:55 PM »

You may love it here and now but in 100 years you'll love God forcing you to salvation if saying the prayer above.
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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2011, 12:54:07 PM »

pasadi97,

The long posts you submitted to start this thread: Did you write those yourself, or did you just copy a whole lot of material from other sources?
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2011, 01:16:49 PM »

I love that God doesn't FORCE us to salvation.

Sometimes I wish it were that easy.
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2011, 02:15:06 PM »

Very clever, pasadi97. Post your manifesto here, and then in every other post you make on the forum post a link to this thread. You are a master!
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2011, 02:22:01 PM »

This may be clever or help from God. Anyhow, some souls need to find out about eternal life.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2011, 02:38:09 PM »

This may be clever or help from God. Anyhow, some souls need to find out about eternal life.

So what is the purpose of posting it on a predominantly Orthodox forum in the faith issues section?
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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2011, 03:30:39 PM »

This may be clever or help from God. Anyhow, some souls need to find out about eternal life.

So what is the purpose of posting it on a predominantly Orthodox forum in the faith issues section?

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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2011, 03:38:52 PM »

pasadi97,

The long posts you submitted to start this thread: Did you write those yourself, or did you just copy a whole lot of material from other sources?

I'm backing it up. I also ask you to share a name of your Diocesan Hierarch. These are official requests so you are obliged to answer me both questions. You have 3 days starting from now. The topic is locked until you answer me via PM.
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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2011, 07:58:37 AM »

No one here reads posts that long, unless you include a few dozen maps.

Not to mention argumentum verbosium is a logical fallacy.....
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So Michał, is he a member of the OCA?
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