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« on: November 24, 2008, 03:17:19 AM »

This discussion started here:  Church of Finland slipping into "gay heresy" ??


Gay rights are legal and it may be illegal (as it is in Canada) to preach or speak against homosexuality.

Is it really against the law in Canada to publicly state opposition to homosexual behavior?
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 12:35:49 PM »

Gay rights are legal and it may be illegal (as it is in Canada) to preach or speak against homosexuality.

Is it really against the law in Canada to publicly state opposition to homosexual behavior?

No. it is not.  End of tangent.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 11:18:43 PM »

Pravoslavbob,

Yes it is against the law to preach against homosexuality (it is considered, at worst, a hate crime). The Roman Catholic Bishop of Calgary was charged with such an offence. See the below article from 2005. Since that time, human rights laws have become even more restrictive.


http://catholicinsight.com/online/features/article_609.shtml

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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2008, 10:42:08 PM »

In regards to the Canadian situation, please see:

http://www.challies.com/archives/general-news/canadas-hate-cr.php

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2008, 10:51:07 PM »

In regards to the Canadian situation, please see:

http://www.challies.com/archives/general-news/canadas-hate-cr.php

You have directed me toward a private blog that speculates about the consequences of homosexuals being protected against hate speech.  This article does not even accuse that any Christians have ever been prosecuted for publicly speaking against homosexual behavior in Canada.  The speculative blog was also written four years ago.  I just do not see how that was supposed to be informative or helpful in explaining the situation in Canada.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2008, 11:06:39 PM »

Please read:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=11440

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_hat7.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-250

Since Canadian criminal law is base upon common law, people are using this bill to bring charges against people who preach against homosexuality. More importantly, they are using human rights legislation and human rights tribunals to push their agenda through the courts.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 01:46:50 AM »

Please read:

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=11440

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_hat7.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-250

Since Canadian criminal law is base upon common law, people are using this bill to bring charges against people who preach against homosexuality. More importantly, they are using human rights legislation and human rights tribunals to push their agenda through the courts.

I have read, and I think it would behoove you to read the articles you posted, not one of which comes from a respected news source.

The "Religious Tolerance" source states that "The bill contains a "not withstanding" clause which prevents prosecution of individuals for religiously motivated hate speech. Thus, if a person referred to passages in a Bible or any other religious text during the presentation of hate speech, then they could not be prosecuted under the law."  Now while they define religious speech as hate speech, they still admit that it is protected under the law.

Your Wiki-article quotes the bill directly:

"No person shall be convicted of an offense under subsection (2)

    (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;
    (b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text;
    (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true."

There is a clause built in to protect religious beliefs on homosexuality.  This bill is about protecting people from physical harm.  It is about arresting people who advocate :

(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction...

So your statements seem totally false and motivated by fear.  Stop being afraid and try loving and praying for a homosexual rather than freaking out about legislation to protect them from physical harm.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 11:27:19 PM »

Thread locked pursuant to the Moratorium on Discussing Homosexual Conduct

The latest question regarding anti-discrimination laws and the ordination of women split off and moved to Religious Topics:  http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,28331.0.html
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