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bible in koine greek
« on: September 17, 2018, 12:13:01 AM »
Does anyone know of a vendor in the US that sells the Orthodox Bible in koine Greek? Preferably with the patriarchal text of the NT and the Septuagint OT in the same volume.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2018, 12:14:46 AM »
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2018, 09:39:51 AM »
Look, these aren't hard to find, but if you want the best OT recension, you'll have to buy from Apostoli Diakonia in Greece. If you want the best NT, maybe there are sellers in the US, but do focus on the 1904 Patriarchal Text.

It's important to say, however, that the differences between Greek biblical recensions are minor, and mostly imperceptible to the average reader. AFAIK Mt. Athos doesn't even read AD's OT, but rather a very old English recension that was reprinted in Russia. So take my recommendation with a pinch of salt.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2018, 12:21:36 PM »
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 04:42:08 PM »
I did find one on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1494779714/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
I'm not quite sure about the publisher though, and it's not available in hardcover. I might get this one but I'll keep looking for now.

Look, these aren't hard to find, but if you want the best OT recension, you'll have to buy from Apostoli Diakonia in Greece. If you want the best NT, maybe there are sellers in the US, but do focus on the 1904 Patriarchal Text.

It's important to say, however, that the differences between Greek biblical recensions are minor, and mostly imperceptible to the average reader. AFAIK Mt. Athos doesn't even read AD's OT, but rather a very old English recension that was reprinted in Russia. So take my recommendation with a pinch of salt.

What makes the Apostoli Diakonia OT rescension the best?
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 12:45:40 AM »
It uses hymnography and Patristics to resolve conflicts between manuscripts.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 01:36:06 PM »
It uses hymnography and Patristics to resolve conflicts between manuscripts.

Really?

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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 02:54:59 PM »
It uses hymnography and Patristics to resolve conflicts between manuscripts.
Really?
Yeah, it's the whole point behind it, as opposed to Grabe's mere juxtaposition of manuscripts (reprinted in Moscow and currently used in Mount Athos) and Rahlfs's worry with finding the original text amongst variations rather than reflected the living tradition of the Church. I don't wish to demean any of the texts, however: Grabe was as good as one could get at this time, and the team initially headed by Rahlfs did an amazing work, but with a different perspective (a very different one indeed, but not so significant in the end since the variations are not that great).

I made a complex method that involved all three recensions when translating the Psalms myself, but once I retake the work, I'll probably just stick to AD and leave the variations for the footnotes.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 03:33:42 PM »
I dunno. Isn't struggling with the difficulties kind of a Patristic thing to do? "Correcting" the Bible that we've got by altering the text sounds like the kind of well-intentioned chicanery of a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2018, 04:31:14 PM »
I dunno. Isn't struggling with the difficulties kind of a Patristic thing to do? "Correcting" the Bible that we've got by altering the text sounds like the kind of well-intentioned chicanery of a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness.
It's not about correcting, but rather chewing on the diversity of the text to make it a single one that doesn't require thinking about layers and layers of info. Not much unlike how the original Septuagint and NT writers didn't use punctuation, accents or space, but nowadays we put them for proper understanding, which requires some level of interpretation.
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 11:14:14 AM »
It uses hymnography and Patristics to resolve conflicts between manuscripts.
Really?
Yeah, it's the whole point behind it, as opposed to Grabe's mere juxtaposition of manuscripts (reprinted in Moscow and currently used in Mount Athos) and Rahlfs's worry with finding the original text amongst variations rather than reflected the living tradition of the Church. I don't wish to demean any of the texts, however: Grabe was as good as one could get at this time, and the team initially headed by Rahlfs did an amazing work, but with a different perspective (a very different one indeed, but not so significant in the end since the variations are not that great).

I made a complex method that involved all three recensions when translating the Psalms myself, but once I retake the work, I'll probably just stick to AD and leave the variations for the footnotes.
Is AD what is here?:
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Re: bible in koine greek
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 12:31:24 PM »
It uses hymnography and Patristics to resolve conflicts between manuscripts.
Really?
Yeah, it's the whole point behind it, as opposed to Grabe's mere juxtaposition of manuscripts (reprinted in Moscow and currently used in Mount Athos) and Rahlfs's worry with finding the original text amongst variations rather than reflected the living tradition of the Church. I don't wish to demean any of the texts, however: Grabe was as good as one could get at this time, and the team initially headed by Rahlfs did an amazing work, but with a different perspective (a very different one indeed, but not so significant in the end since the variations are not that great).

I made a complex method that involved all three recensions when translating the Psalms myself, but once I retake the work, I'll probably just stick to AD and leave the variations for the footnotes.
Is AD what is here?:
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/bible/default.asp
Yes.
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