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Offline krajisnik

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Εὔσπλαχνε
« on: June 19, 2018, 10:31:51 AM »
Hello.
I need the correct meaning of the word Εὔσπλαχνε:
"τοῦ χωρισμοῦ σου, εὔσπλαχνε˙ δεινή γάρ αὕτη θλῖψις"

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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 10:44:50 AM »
Merciful.
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 10:47:32 AM »
Merciful.
as "the Merciful One"? Not as "you are merciful"?

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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 11:06:19 AM »
Most liturgical translations take it as “compassionate,” which I think is preferable because there is already “merciful” verbiage built on έλεος. Also, the context of its use is more paternal/maternal in hymns to Christ or His mother.

In this case you have the idea right. Εύσπλαχνε is vocative and could be translated “o compassionate one.”
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 11:07:20 AM by Antonis »
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 02:24:43 PM »
FWIW, σπλάγχνον means "heart", so "Εύσπλαγχνε" could be literally analysed as "o he of the good heart".
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2018, 03:08:29 PM »
FWIW, σπλάγχνον means "heart", so "Εύσπλαγχνε" could be literally analysed as "o he of the good heart".

Not quite.  ευ is an adverb and so means "Well" and not "good."  You can get away with that conflation in English, but not so in Greek. 
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2018, 03:11:59 PM »
FWIW, σπλάγχνον means "heart", so "Εύσπλαγχνε" could be literally analysed as "o he of the good heart".

Not quite.  ευ is an adverb and so means "Well" and not "good."  You can get away with that conflation in English, but not so in Greek.
Yeah, but you can't attach an adverb to a noun, so I kinda adapted it in translation. Splánchnon doesn't literally mean "heart" either.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 03:12:27 PM by RaphaCam »
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2018, 03:29:22 PM »
“Milosîrd”
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Re: Εὔσπλαχνε
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 03:42:24 AM »
Many thanks, dear friends.